Appearently Kaige and his coach were not aware that it had been changed to best of 3 instead of best of 5. He told me he had more combos planned that were even more difficult and he‘s very sad because he had been preparing for a long time. This is very unfortunate but it‘s too late to change it now and there‘s a lot more gatherings coming up in the future. These are some of, if not THE most impressive combos I have ever seen. HUUUUUUGE respect to both athletes! Congratulations to Zen for defending his title as Hooked Champion, it was close but very well deserved in my opinion. The second combo he did was truly mindblowing and probably the most impressive combo I have ever seen. I‘m very glad I didn’t have to judge this because damn… I wouldn‘t even know how to compare the combos. So a lot of respect to the judges as well. I‘ll drop the rest of the videos in the following days :) Thank you for watching and good night ❤
@@OMNIVERSESAPIENS i think this battle kinda proved that zen is now at the same lavel or above shosei in battle aspect, since we know that kaige fu have the same battle style or slightly better than shosei
Yes… he definitely deserves to be celebrated as well! He did some of the hardest combos ever done and performed incredibly well, especially considering that this is one of his first big battles!
@ it is not confusing and strange… both of the athletes performed incredibly well and should be celebrated. It just shows how incredible the tricking community is and it‘s by far my favorite thing about this sport!
@@NoahPetek maybe he says its confusing because you cant Tell who's the winner 👌 but I agree with you point I love that tricking is such a warm hearted community.
I didn’t think Zen had it when I watched Kaige’s passes, but he somehow took the win. Really wish this was best of 5 because I think Kaige would’ve been able to take it, but super happy with what we ended up getting, neither of them fell and they both did a top 10 hardest battle combo every single round
I don’t think Kaige would’ve won this either way. Zens combo experience is through the roof, kaige is very good but if you dialed down the tricks, you’d find that they’re relatively simple combos.
Definitely believe that zen was the clear winner. The more i watch the more i see it this way. However it would've been good to see what kaige had in-store for a 5 round battle and how zen would have to break his limits to pull even more insane combos That second and last combo from zen were 🔥
According to me, Kaige just lacks variation; however, the execution and flow are already very good. I'm not saying that quad full is something minor, but Kaige spams quad full too much, even though that trick is very impactful.CMIIW
REFROMING TRCKING IS A MUST if it's to survive. In order to to make tricking appealing to wider audience and thus make it survive, there needs to be a reform in how people think about tricking and it's future direction. 1st. : make tricking more performative where presentation of your moves and your approach to it earns you good points, just as this video proves it; but emphasize it even more so there's an acting, performative edge to it. 2nd. : make style and elegance, if not the most important aspect, at least as equally as important as power moves, as spamming power moves, which are indistinguishable for the most people who do tricking, let alone ppl who have nothing to do with tricking, becomes boring. And besides, doing a stylized, elegant and confident backflip will always be more attractive than double backflip without any style, elegance. Performing elegant, sylaised moves is also a skill in its own right which is not easy and might be unique to individuals. I'd rather see Anis Cheurfas moves than any of these new school kids that keep throwing these crazy powermoves that are pretty much all the same to a casual viewer. Tricking is in a desperate need of a reform, and the one I presented here is not gonna take anything away from tricking, it'll only make it better and more enjoyable. You can see that other fringe interests such as beatbox and death diving understood this and went this direction. It's also really easy to enforce this new direction by directly and openly rewarding style, performance, elegance, originality, over powermove spams or to an equal degree at least. I can appreciate a technical beatboxer, but I'd much rather listen to a musical, original, fluid one even if his sound kit is simpler. You might think it's unnecessary, but if you don't attract a wider audience, it defeats the purpose of it's entertainment nature, and without any money trickers won't have any incentive to stay tricking, and just like me and majority of other trickers that never end up working as stuntmen or something where you can make a living off of it, which is a very small minority, it'll just become a background hobby and nothing more, so the sport won't ever evolve beyond a few years of active tricking of all individual trickers. This is not a sell out reform as I genuinely believe that tricking was always about style and presentation anyway, it just went this weird direction where a 3 year old kid height cheat 720 was more admired than a normal hook kick done with flair.
Couldn’t agree more with this! I’m trying to judge in a way that encourages originality, style and cleanliness without disregarding the difficulty of high level power moves. Hopefully people will start to take notice of what winning passes look like and Tricking can become a lot more exciting 🔥
I fully agree! I feel like style and execution is lacking from a lot of high level trickers and from a lot of trickers in general. To someone who‘s not into the sport it just looks like sloppy gymnastics and they can‘t even tell the difference between dub and quad. A good Skillaz Icy cork got me more hooked on tricking than any cheat 16 or quad cork ever could. I believe there has to be a balance where we can push the sport to it‘s boundaries but still keep up the standards to where it still has mainstream appeal. Good examples for this would be Dante, Tiki or Kazuki. My favorite tricker of all time is Shosei but I believe to someone who‘s not involved in tricking at all he would probably look too sloppy and they can‘t comprehend what‘s going on. Another big issue is also flow (which I guess you could count as part of style). A lot of combos are not very well pieced together. Look at some of the viral tricking clips… Levis frontswing/backswing combos, Matus raiz gainer raiz macaron, Nicoflow and Skillaz content… What do we see? No stumbles, big shapes, perfect flow and good execution. I have thought about how to grow the sport and make a living through tricking a lot and I believe that cleaning up my style would benefit me much more than adding another twist or two.
@@NoahPetek exactly. Hope we can push this conversation forward and brainstorm more ideas on how we can make tricking appealing to the wider audience. I get literally nothing from this. It only comes from the desire to see tricking, my beloved sport/art thrive, and athletes paid, as i know it's possible if we market it well and focus on what got all of us interested in it, which is def not quadruple corks and whatnots. One organisation has to take the lead and promote its new direction and focus through its event/comp. Videography also has to be top notch. I recommand taking inspiration from 00nation for death dive and their direction in how they promote and popularise death diving.
@@NoahPetekI thought that he was taunting his opponent like this: this battle was so boring to him that he wasn’t even paying attention what’s going on and just playing with his phone hahaha
1st off shoutout kaige, he put on arguably the greatest prodigy performance in history along side shosei this past year and a half going toe to toe with the best battler of our time right now. (The goat zen) I see a lot of people saying kaige won and i think it needs to be realized that kaige has little to no combo flow in his passes thats solely what opened up the possibility for zen to take the win. Zen has absolutely world shattering combo power that can actually vary in its flows and moves while kaige proceeded to do cheat 9 hook for the rest of the battle. And On top of this zen still managed to basically match kaiges power making a no brainer who won.
I don‘t think he managed to quite match the power. Kaiges twisting is just insane. But Zen has more variety and a more defined style so he deserves to win but it was a crazy battle for sure!
🔥🔥🔥YT recommendation and algorithm has done it again, this is the absolutely super LIT and ZEN with the extra gas in the tank busting out all kinds of moves letsssssss goooooooo🔥🔥🔥
My opinion: First round - easy Kaige. Sorry, but that quad full vanish was too clean, and then into another quad? Yoooooo Second round - Zen for pretty much the same reason Kaige last round. Full in vanish was an insane starter, and the combo didn't disappoint! Ending with snapu to split was NOICE Third round - Kaige. Quad cork combo is insane, and he did it clean enough when compared to Zen's combo that looked like stumbling improv. Kaige got robbed
I was so glad to be there in person, amazing battle, incredible athletes, insane tricks BUT. This format just doesn’t gel with me right. Something about a participant being able to sit down and browse his phone mid battle doesn’t feel right. Put 1 or 2 minutes on the clock and let them duke it out. Force them to make tough, strategic decisions on the fly. Way more entertaining and way more thrilling for an audience. That being said, Zen played the format perfectly. Congratulations winning back to back king 👑
I disagree! They performed some of the hardest combos ever done in tricking, let alone in battle back to back after already battling for a bunch of rounds to get to the final. If you‘ve ever battled you know it‘s incredibly exhausting and giving them the time to look at their battle log, strategize and most of all get mentally and physically ready for a hard combo is the only way we‘re gonna get to see this level of tricking in battles. If you didn’t think this was thrilling enough then idk what to say here…
@@NoahPetekYou bring up really valid points, I guess it just boils down to what you want from a battle. If you value fluidity and chemistry or the highest level tricks possible. I guess personally I miss the oldschool way of battling. Yes I have done my share of battles over the years, I know how taxing it is on the body better than most 😂 Turn based battles is definitely safer too in that regard.
I certainly agree that we have lost some style and execution for the sake of difficulty and I think if we want to grow tricking that needs to change. But I believe that that change can only be made by judging differently. I think giving them less time in between rounds would only make the execution worse as they will be more exhausted and have less time to go through the combo in their head.
I'm sad for kaige, If Kaige had known that there were only 3 rounds he could have shown a much higher level, even winning by doing a quint full or something like that hahah
Can't wait to see how Shosei will be when he's back, his twists are on a similar level I reckon and he has a lot more experience for the better or worse
@@limes_I im literally scared for shosei's battle come back which i believe is going to be 2025 i heard he said he was going to battle next year. and let me tell you after seeing his exclusive content its clear that man is still in a whole other universe of skill level than everbody else. its gonna be brutal.
Kaiges coach said they had a battle strategy planned for 5 rounds. I don‘t know what exactly that means but appearently it was poorly communicated that they changed it to three rounds. They slightly mentioned it at the beginning of the battles but Kaige and his coach don‘t speak a lot of english so it doesn’t seem fair. Regardless, Zen performed incredibly well and I‘m so happy he won one more time! But I think next year Kaige will be unstoppable 👀
Why? I know quad cork and quad full in the same combo is insane difficult, but it was pretty boring combo compared to zen. And also that second round corkin back out gonna be always auto win in any battle.
Zen wins imo he was actually throwing kicks with those springs. Like more like fuckin ken from street fighter V. another level for sure. 💯 The first combo from zen was the most kicks I’ve ever seen thrown. Ever. Bet. 💯
@@jayedendunahee7479 Well the execution on his first combo wasn’t really there and Kaige did the first quad full vanish in battle to another pretty clean valdez quad. I agree that Zen wins overall but I also agree that the first pass definitely goes to Kaige. Kojo did a great breakdown of his judging on his Instagram.
Ok they are capable of, but I see these guys too muck exalted and acting like rockstars…So u can be this or that, but I don’t care a fu*%#@ shit of your moves.
Appearently Kaige and his coach were not aware that it had been changed to best of 3 instead of best of 5. He told me he had more combos planned that were even more difficult and he‘s very sad because he had been preparing for a long time. This is very unfortunate but it‘s too late to change it now and there‘s a lot more gatherings coming up in the future.
These are some of, if not THE most impressive combos I have ever seen. HUUUUUUGE respect to both athletes!
Congratulations to Zen for defending his title as Hooked Champion, it was close but very well deserved in my opinion. The second combo he did was truly mindblowing and probably the most impressive combo I have ever seen.
I‘m very glad I didn’t have to judge this because damn… I wouldn‘t even know how to compare the combos. So a lot of respect to the judges as well.
I‘ll drop the rest of the videos in the following days :)
Thank you for watching and good night ❤
imagine planning combos harder than quad cork into quad full 💀
Great work young Saiyan, thx for the upload ⚡⚔️💪🏼
Oh that must have been a bitter pill to swallow. Kaige Fu is definitely the next gen Zen coming up though
Yes that may be true, but also keep in mind even if it was 5 rounds he still would've at least lost these 2 rounds so the result isn't much different
IMO Kaige still won
idk what happened to Zen these past few years but his confidence now is unreal. 🔥 Crazy crowd control and full faith in himself.
His aura was unlimited at hooked this year. Truly wore that crown the whole night show
@@neptunetricks9792 noticed it alot in all recent battles. He takes over the whole room its crazy.
Es fácil entender que Shosei no está compitiendo, por lo tanto, nadie es rival para él
@@OMNIVERSESAPIENS i think this battle kinda proved that zen is now at the same lavel or above shosei in battle aspect, since we know that kaige fu have the same battle style or slightly better than shosei
@@bluesky-xh2dc They have always been on par
I just loveeee that kaige still got celebrated very hard at the end
Yes… he definitely deserves to be celebrated as well! He did some of the hardest combos ever done and performed incredibly well, especially considering that this is one of his first big battles!
The ending was confusing and strange but I get where you’re coming from ^
@ it is not confusing and strange… both of the athletes performed incredibly well and should be celebrated. It just shows how incredible the tricking community is and it‘s by far my favorite thing about this sport!
@@NoahPetek maybe he says its confusing because you cant Tell who's the winner 👌 but I agree with you point I love that tricking is such a warm hearted community.
I didn’t think Zen had it when I watched Kaige’s passes, but he somehow took the win. Really wish this was best of 5 because I think Kaige would’ve been able to take it, but super happy with what we ended up getting, neither of them fell and they both did a top 10 hardest battle combo every single round
I don‘t think he would‘ve been able to take it because he lacks variety. But I agree… both of them did some of the hardest combos ever done.
I don’t think Kaige would’ve won this either way. Zens combo experience is through the roof, kaige is very good but if you dialed down the tricks, you’d find that they’re relatively simple combos.
Definitely believe that zen was the clear winner. The more i watch the more i see it this way. However it would've been good to see what kaige had in-store for a 5 round battle and how zen would have to break his limits to pull even more insane combos
That second and last combo from zen were 🔥
dethrones shosei vs johan. practically all combos are imo on the top 5 hardest combos oat
Pretty much, yeah…
According to me, Kaige just lacks variation; however, the execution and flow are already very good. I'm not saying that quad full is something minor, but Kaige spams quad full too much, even though that trick is very impactful.CMIIW
I agree
Agreed 100%
REFROMING TRCKING IS A MUST if it's to survive.
In order to to make tricking appealing to wider audience and thus make it survive, there needs to be a reform in how people think about tricking and it's future direction.
1st. : make tricking more performative where presentation of your moves and your approach to it earns you good points, just as this video proves it; but emphasize it even more so there's an acting, performative edge to it.
2nd. : make style and elegance, if not the most important aspect, at least as equally as important as power moves, as spamming power moves, which are indistinguishable for the most people who do tricking, let alone ppl who have nothing to do with tricking, becomes boring. And besides, doing a stylized, elegant and confident backflip will always be more attractive than double backflip without any style, elegance. Performing elegant, sylaised moves is also a skill in its own right which is not easy and might be unique to individuals. I'd rather see Anis Cheurfas moves than any of these new school kids that keep throwing these crazy powermoves that are pretty much all the same to a casual viewer.
Tricking is in a desperate need of a reform, and the one I presented here is not gonna take anything away from tricking, it'll only make it better and more enjoyable. You can see that other fringe interests such as beatbox and death diving understood this and went this direction. It's also really easy to enforce this new direction by directly and openly rewarding style, performance, elegance, originality, over powermove spams or to an equal degree at least.
I can appreciate a technical beatboxer, but I'd much rather listen to a musical, original, fluid one even if his sound kit is simpler.
You might think it's unnecessary, but if you don't attract a wider audience, it defeats the purpose of it's entertainment nature, and without any money trickers won't have any incentive to stay tricking, and just like me and majority of other trickers that never end up working as stuntmen or something where you can make a living off of it, which is a very small minority, it'll just become a background hobby and nothing more, so the sport won't ever evolve beyond a few years of active tricking of all individual trickers.
This is not a sell out reform as I genuinely believe that tricking was always about style and presentation anyway, it just went this weird direction where a 3 year old kid height cheat 720 was more admired than a normal hook kick done with flair.
Couldn’t agree more with this! I’m trying to judge in a way that encourages originality, style and cleanliness without disregarding the difficulty of high level power moves. Hopefully people will start to take notice of what winning passes look like and Tricking can become a lot more exciting 🔥
I fully agree! I feel like style and execution is lacking from a lot of high level trickers and from a lot of trickers in general. To someone who‘s not into the sport it just looks like sloppy gymnastics and they can‘t even tell the difference between dub and quad. A good Skillaz Icy cork got me more hooked on tricking than any cheat 16 or quad cork ever could.
I believe there has to be a balance where we can push the sport to it‘s boundaries but still keep up the standards to where it still has mainstream appeal. Good examples for this would be Dante, Tiki or Kazuki. My favorite tricker of all time is Shosei but I believe to someone who‘s not involved in tricking at all he would probably look too sloppy and they can‘t comprehend what‘s going on.
Another big issue is also flow (which I guess you could count as part of style). A lot of combos are not very well pieced together. Look at some of the viral tricking clips… Levis frontswing/backswing combos, Matus raiz gainer raiz macaron, Nicoflow and Skillaz content… What do we see? No stumbles, big shapes, perfect flow and good execution.
I have thought about how to grow the sport and make a living through tricking a lot and I believe that cleaning up my style would benefit me much more than adding another twist or two.
@@NoahPetek exactly. Hope we can push this conversation forward and brainstorm more ideas on how we can make tricking appealing to the wider audience. I get literally nothing from this. It only comes from the desire to see tricking, my beloved sport/art thrive, and athletes paid, as i know it's possible if we market it well and focus on what got all of us interested in it, which is def not quadruple corks and whatnots. One organisation has to take the lead and promote its new direction and focus through its event/comp. Videography also has to be top notch. I recommand taking inspiration from 00nation for death dive and their direction in how they promote and popularise death diving.
So you think this part will change the audience and will drive more people to watch and understand our activity?
Trickers must make 3 element ini one combo ,, martial art, gymnastic , And breaking
I've never seen Zen look at notes before😮😮😮😮. This is getting scary.
Pretty sure he did it last year too… he probably has a battle log with a list of combos he has prepared. Great strategy :)
@@NoahPetekI thought that he was taunting his opponent like this: this battle was so boring to him that he wasn’t even paying attention what’s going on and just playing with his phone hahaha
Craziest thing I’ve ever seen with my eyes
Fr😂
Zen's round 2 and 3 are the only rounds where they put smoke after his passes.
None of Kaige's passes had that.
Zen's second combo is the best combo ever done in battles.
1st off shoutout kaige, he put on arguably the greatest prodigy performance in history along side shosei this past year and a half going toe to toe with the best battler of our time right now. (The goat zen)
I see a lot of people saying kaige won and i think it needs to be realized that kaige has little to no combo flow in his passes thats solely what opened up the possibility for zen to take the win. Zen has absolutely world shattering combo power that can actually vary in its flows and moves while kaige proceeded to do cheat 9 hook for the rest of the battle. And On top of this zen still managed to basically match kaiges power making a no brainer who won.
I don‘t think he managed to quite match the power. Kaiges twisting is just insane. But Zen has more variety and a more defined style so he deserves to win but it was a crazy battle for sure!
If they want the Olympics to stay around... this is how gymnastics comps should be.
Wtf happened with zen in the 2nd round. Thats crazyyyy!!!
Hooked Battles were insane!!!
YES!
The best perfomance for Zen 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Woah crazy combos man,lol what’s with Zen and the weird symbols thou lol
🔥🔥🔥YT recommendation and algorithm has done it again, this is the absolutely super LIT and ZEN with the extra gas in the tank busting out all kinds of moves letsssssss goooooooo🔥🔥🔥
My opinion:
First round - easy Kaige. Sorry, but that quad full vanish was too clean, and then into another quad? Yoooooo
Second round - Zen for pretty much the same reason Kaige last round. Full in vanish was an insane starter, and the combo didn't disappoint! Ending with snapu to split was NOICE
Third round - Kaige. Quad cork combo is insane, and he did it clean enough when compared to Zen's combo that looked like stumbling improv.
Kaige got robbed
I was there! 🤩🙌🏼🔝
Makes me remember the good old days with Guthrie and Velu
Insane battle but i think kaige would have to be the winner. However, it was a great battle
I think he lacks variety… that‘s his biggest downfall. But I‘m interested to see how he will perform next year!
Lol this battle was insane, wish I could've seen it in person. Absolutelegends
Shosei should return and dethroned everybody😤
Zen pass 2 was out of this world hahahaha
Zen's full-in combo had me absolutely geeked
shurikane, snapu to split was such a good way to end it too
Does anybody know the last song? This battle was lit !!! 🔥
I was so glad to be there in person, amazing battle, incredible athletes, insane tricks BUT. This format just doesn’t gel with me right. Something about a participant being able to sit down and browse his phone mid battle doesn’t feel right. Put 1 or 2 minutes on the clock and let them duke it out. Force them to make tough, strategic decisions on the fly. Way more entertaining and way more thrilling for an audience. That being said, Zen played the format perfectly. Congratulations winning back to back king 👑
I disagree! They performed some of the hardest combos ever done in tricking, let alone in battle back to back after already battling for a bunch of rounds to get to the final. If you‘ve ever battled you know it‘s incredibly exhausting and giving them the time to look at their battle log, strategize and most of all get mentally and physically ready for a hard combo is the only way we‘re gonna get to see this level of tricking in battles. If you didn’t think this was thrilling enough then idk what to say here…
@@NoahPetekYou bring up really valid points, I guess it just boils down to what you want from a battle. If you value fluidity and chemistry or the highest level tricks possible. I guess personally I miss the oldschool way of battling. Yes I have done my share of battles over the years, I know how taxing it is on the body better than most 😂 Turn based battles is definitely safer too in that regard.
I certainly agree that we have lost some style and execution for the sake of difficulty and I think if we want to grow tricking that needs to change. But I believe that that change can only be made by judging differently.
I think giving them less time in between rounds would only make the execution worse as they will be more exhausted and have less time to go through the combo in their head.
Fortheculture 🥳
FTC
@@NoahPetek FTC
As an epileptic, the flashing lights are insa
holy shit they locked in
I'm sad for kaige, If Kaige had known that there were only 3 rounds he could have shown a much higher level, even winning by doing a quint full or something like that hahah
I don’t think quint full should beat combos that are as long, variated, and powerful as Zen is doing
I agree! Kaige is the best at twists at the moment but he can‘t just keep spamming quads. If he wants to win he needs a bit more variety.
Can't wait to see how Shosei will be when he's back, his twists are on a similar level I reckon and he has a lot more experience for the better or worse
@@limes_I fr I hope to see Shosei battle again. Feels like it's been a decade
@@limes_I im literally scared for shosei's battle come back which i believe is going to be 2025 i heard he said he was going to battle next year. and let me tell you after seeing his exclusive content its clear that man is still in a whole other universe of skill level than everbody else. its gonna be brutal.
Soo hyped!
Why did shosei not compete?
Shirtless one is funny 😂😂 but they are all talented versatile
Second Zen combo!
It was the best legend match
진짜 잘한다
Zen last combo >> kaige last combo
I wonder if any competitor are an Olympic athlete?
No Brasil tem os capoeiristas
Raygun!
6:30 homey didn’t do it… he didn’t do what he needed to do smh
Should've been best of 5
I agree!
Kaiges coach said they had a battle strategy planned for 5 rounds. I don‘t know what exactly that means but appearently it was poorly communicated that they changed it to three rounds.
They slightly mentioned it at the beginning of the battles but Kaige and his coach don‘t speak a lot of english so it doesn’t seem fair. Regardless, Zen performed incredibly well and I‘m so happy he won one more time! But I think next year Kaige will be unstoppable 👀
@@NoahPetekI just realized that they may have not noticed that detail at the beginning because of the language barrier. Damn.
Both wins
Acrobatic😂😂😂😂
should have been BO5 !!
its cool but at what point does it start seeing the same thing over and over again especially at thaty hight level where everyone does the same thing
Black shirt won that 3rd round
Why? I know quad cork and quad full in the same combo is insane difficult, but it was pretty boring combo compared to zen. And also that second round corkin back out gonna be always auto win in any battle.
World first envergado 1800 ?
Zen wins imo he was actually throwing kicks with those springs. Like more like fuckin ken from street fighter V. another level for sure. 💯 The first combo from zen was the most kicks I’ve ever seen thrown. Ever. Bet. 💯
@@jayedendunahee7479 Well the execution on his first combo wasn’t really there and Kaige did the first quad full vanish in battle to another pretty clean valdez quad. I agree that Zen wins overall but I also agree that the first pass definitely goes to Kaige. Kojo did a great breakdown of his judging on his Instagram.
Yeah talk about taijutsu
the cover of the video is a bit spoilery
I’m testing out three different thumbnails to see which one does best
😂😂😂 два раза прыгнули за 10 мин
FTC
Os cara parece q tem molas nos pés. Kkkk
Hättest mal in die Beschreibung reinschreiben können wann u wo das Event war...
😅what is this..like my monkey😂
Ok they are capable of, but I see these guys too muck exalted and acting like rockstars…So u can be this or that, but I don’t care a fu*%#@ shit of your moves.
Incredible but not dancing just a version of gymnastics floor work
Insane battle wish it was best of 5. They are the most consistent trickers in the game 🤌🏽