Don't worry about it mate, you're new so you probably weren't aware that poe2 will be free hence the stash tabs. And that you need to keep buying full game priced expansions in diablo 4.
I've been playing arpg for about 2 months now and I actually started d4 and I blasted that shit into oblivion. The experience I had opening d4 was AMAZING, grinding till 6am with my friends. But after a few days there was absolutely nothing to do. We felt obligated to jump on so we don't miss anything but just sat there talking more than playing. When I 1st opened poe2 for the 1st time was just a game changer. I have also tasted the forbidden fruit and I'm hooked also. Been up all night the past few night with my face stuck on poe trade trying to upgrade. Haha. I haven't had a single day playing poe where I didn't know what to do.
Had a blast with poe 2 but tbh I hate the end game. Its the same garbage as Diablo 3, mindlessly killing everything with 0 effort + I hate the trading platform Why couldn't hey have just made an ingame auction house
@maxpowers4436 I am enjoying the end game right now. It sounds like you are just hoping for failure because you dont like poe? Just dont trade and go ssf and you wont snowball like crazy early and roll through.
Ex-d4 Andy here. POE2 is the superior game overall. That being said a lot of the things that Diablo got absolutely blasted for such as tons of back tracking, 6 second levers, hitting for millions-billions, and one tapping bosses just to name a few are absolutely present in poe2. Difference being one is in EA and the other was a full priced game.
I'm a long term poe player and you're correct there are currently alot of issues, and many changes away from poe that I don't care for but I know for sure GGG will be more receptive to feedback and actually change things. To be fair blizzard did make changes to d4 too but the base game just loses that hook too quickly. Even with all of the flaws in the current crafting the base for in depth gearing is still there and will get better or time
Yea Poe 2 makes almost all the same D4 mistakes sadly. I'm curious how they will deal with bots and bug abusers to stabilize the economy, because right now its a horror show. PoE2 also has technical issues they need to work out. (Probably caused by the listed items in the stash is my guess) Lets hope this competition will make both games better.
PoE1 vet here and I can agree on most of the stuff thats bad rn, but as you said, its still EA and hopefully GGG makes the right decision on most of the stuff Idk how they even make the same mistakes twice but whatever, if they fix it soon its gonna be good
So as someone who played around 750h on D4 I can say that the game isn’t even close to POE2 which is only in EA I already uninstalled Diablo 4 and I am now going full time POE2. Even tho i preffer milsim games.Diablo is the only game where I fell asleep while playing it multiple times!! POE2 feels like Elden Ring ARPG version! Really blasting while on holidays and got 2 chars lvl 85! The difference in games is huge I feel like I left the kindergarden (D4) and now moved to University! That’s how huge the gap is! I believe Blizzard saw their numbers and now they are paying everyone to make a videos on how D4 is a good game lol
Nga shutup 😂 if you think Poe Is elden ring difficulty, you're just straight up bad at the game. It's barely harder than d4. Poe2 is not even in a good state for you to be meat riding this much. Even Poe vets aren't extremely happy with it.
@@riothegod1831As someone who did not spend 2000 hours in any POE game before,it was challenging for me,especially at the start as a warrior.I did not watch any guides or anything…i stated my opinion i guess you need to touch the grass… P.S. Give me the names of POE vets who are upset , be specific
@gvido2923 so say skill issue next time. Cause everything gets one shot in the endgame even on t18 maps and early game is even more of a joke, you're just bad. kripp, ghazzy, dm, ziz have all made videos complaining about either the economy, builds not being versatile, and armor being absolute dogwater. Be gone meat glazer, we need less of you so GGG can actually listen to the ones who know what they're talking about
@@riothegod1831 lol never red so stupid comment in my life :D Joe the Snuffy think he is big boy here...reality is your opinion is irrelevent! I heared Diablo 4 is letting hit it for free go there the Squirtborn is waiting for your skills! haha 🤡🤡
What's funny is I called it when Lily did. I couldn't tell if he was serious then I saw his passive tree and I was like "oh that's too good, he's a POE player".
he's a really good actor! the only thing i didn't believe was when he said "i didn't understand poe, now i do" after 1200hrs i have no idea what i'm doing. don't lie to us man
Not really everyone, tbh. I got a key from a friend that bought the biggest package. Those keys don't come with any points. Thankfully, I bought stash tabs in PoE1 like 10 years ago, so they transfer over.
D3 was way worse than D4 before RoS, then it got pretty damn good in RoS, but then power creep ruined it again. The game's current (final state) is pretty damn awful. Just senseless numbers going up forever, fixed "builds" based on sets, and with no real loot to chase other than the same set pieces with higher numbers.
Project Diablo 2 and Diablo 1 HD MOD (technoborg) are masterpieces in the same level as poe 1. POE 2 can be better than those in the future with some changes. d3 and d4 are shit
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 The difference is that D3 and D4 are way worse when it comes to that and they are fully released products, while PoE 2 has just entered beta.
That guy is a master baiter. He definitely rode the line pretty well. I was unable to completely commit to a stance until he talked about Diablo still not showing up being such a good buildup.
@@Beezkneez187 the T1-T15 maps are the end game currently. Nothing will change about that any time soon. They are also working on the 3 remaining story campaigns that won't be part of end game either. New classes, skills, monsters, items, passives. I don't expect a huge amount of new end game content any time soon. And I'm not hating on Poe 2, I will play it again in a new season and when new classes drop. And Diablo 4 on the side as now it is at a pretty good spot
I no-lifed D4 but since playing POE 2 I immediately knew it would be nearly impossible to get me back to D4 with enthusiasm unless it has a paradigm shift
"I have a civil engineering degree and I cannot figure out what to do here" in response to poe 2's skill tree this gratified me so deeply as an electrical engineering major who thinks all civil engineers are dumb af
This is hilarious! Blizzard is panicking and spamming commercials and paying shills to talk them up. The commercial that keeps popping up that Diablo 4 has reached it's pinnacle form makes my eyes roll every time. If it's in it's pinnacle form right now it's pathetic.
I also avoided POE1 and am losing entire days to POE2. Did skip D4 though, played PD2 instead, D3 convinced me blizzard is done making ARPGs worth thinking about.
I got on D4 yesterday. It was so fast and mindless and casual and fun. And I liked it. There's a place for D4. It's like a mental break where you can just chill and mash one button.
FM is cool AF. Been checking in on his content all the way back since Outriders (potential lost on that one. Ohhh Outriders). He is a solid streamer. He knows POE2 is crushing D4 😂😂😂😂😂
If you're the kind of person that prefers a game that provides Punishment over reward, then POE2 is for you. When you die, you loose alot of stuff. That's just how it is for this game. Take it or leave.
They are 2 different games. comparing them is pointless considering POE2 "pre-release" is only half the game and D4 has had patches and been out it should be better. POE2 - $30 prerelease and can use $30 spent on in game purchases, will be free to play at launch. Diablo 4- $80 on release, had major bugs, basically a Walmart to buy stuff on release and is predatory. If anybody is defending blizzard they are being paid, period.
This video is the textbook definition of Poe's Law. The irony of this law having the same initials as Path of Exile. Do you think he did this on purpose?
Until Blizzard will not deliver at least somewhere near the same amount of endgame content as PoE 2 has... Will be waiting until Diablo 4 will mature enough... Which will not be soon enough...
The only thing from D4 I wish came over are the cinematics, LE has far more I wish was in PoE, like an actual auction house, or the option for SSF which increases the drop quality to componsate and the Crafting is far superior to PoE 2 although I would like a mix of them, but PoE 2 is in early access and the only thing I hate is the trading in the game which is shit.
POE 2 has major things it needs to work on. Trading is broken, the economy is broken, damage scaling and balance is broken end game is somewhat broken. But visuals are crisp and looks amazing but so does D4 so will just come down to how GGG respond and what they do to sort all this stuff out. But D4 has a multitude of its own problems.
You just need to remember Poe 2 is still a beta game and d4 has been out for more than a year and has a expansion but yeah some things definitely need to be worked on and I hope GGG knocks it out the park on full release 😊😅
We frown upon paying a lot of money for a shit game. I’ve bought 2-3 supporter packs simply bc they don’t ask for it, their priority is the player base, d4 priority is the their bank.. I played d4, and enjoyed it (also beat it completely in a week) but was left wanting soooo much more for that kinda money. How much premium currency does d4 give you when you spend 100$ for base game? 😂🎉 praise be GGG
Whoever is defending Diablo 4 is possibly a shareholder who is afraid of losing sales from the game store and future expansions and this affects their speculation on the stock market. Diablo 4 is a game that was born dead and when POE2 leaves early access more and more people will stop playing D4.
I make fun of Diablo not because it’s a bad game puppy because it still feels like I’m building the framework of the house. Poe 2 for all of it flaws has a phenomenal foundation. I don’t like that Diablo four is where it’s at. My first gaming memory is Diablo two
3:00 You can't complain about a 5% exp buff faster, which you also say is easy to get really fast in the free mode as well, and defend PoE stash tabs at the same time. Let me know how long you need to play to earn stash tabs or how unnecessary they are if you're good enough.
People do SSF with no tabs all the time and place top 10 in the ladder too. Tabs are convenient sure there is no debate about that but shouldn't the people who released this free game deserve to keep their bills paid/kids fed/clothes on their backs? If you say no you are the problem here. You paying for early access doesn't mean the game isn't f2p btw. Diablo can't even get you stash tabs after selling the game for $70. I beat all pinnacle bosses on freaking normal PoE1 with absolutely zero extra tabs. It is very easily doable. I am nothing special and I did it.
@@harveyhouk775 And people play D4 without buying the battle pass all the time. I'd argue that people who do are massively more common than the entirety of SSF players, let alone the subset of SSF players that are willing to punish themselves even more by playing without stash tabs. I didn't say you can't play without stash tabs, I said it's much worse to play PoE without stash tabs than it is to play D4 without slightly faster access to a 5% buff to exp. And even that is being generous because the paid battle pass doesn't actually give you any faster access to the exp buff, you just have to be willing to interact with the free battle pass system. PoE 2 isn't F2P yet, you can say that it will be on launch but it isn't right now. It's still cheaper than D4, but that doesn't make it F2P. Even so, you don't get to launch your game as F2P and then whine about not getting money when people start playing. That's the whole idea of F2P; get people to play because it's free and then grind them down with inconveniences that *shock* the in-game shop can mitigate for them. P2P games that include F2P microtransactions are bad, but that's because F2P microtransactions are bad and it's worse because they're trying to double dip. GGG is doing that as well, regardless of what their plans for the future are. Their store is better than normal, sure, but that doesn't make it better than D4 which has an even less predatory microtransaction store. The ideal microtransaction store is one that never got added to the game, but since we can't have that anymore it is at least better not to have convenience as a selling point. I'm not saying D4 is better than PoE2, so their BS answer to limited stash tabs doesn't matter. I'm talking about the in-game store. That's it. As for it being $70 and worse, that also doesn't matter because I'm not trying to argue based on the merits of the game. If PoE2 released for $70 and it didn't have an in-game store I'd think it was an improvement. If you think beating all pinnacle bosses in PoE 1 makes you "nothing special" you're a moron. Only 20% of PoE players (Steam) have gotten an Ascendancy. If you're going to humble brag, at least try to make it somewhat believable. Masochists like you who defend F2P business models because "you can do it just fine without paying" and "if you think they should release their game for free and not have a store you're the problem" are what make whales the perfect business model for F2P games. It's your "nothing special" mindset that convinced Blizzard to make Diablo Immortal, so thanks for that.
You should not compare the PoE passive tree with the D4 skill tree. Instead compare the gem system to the D4 skill tree and then compare the passive tree with the paragon board in D4. The gem system in PoE is like an improved version of the skill system in Diablo 3 which is much better than D4. Regarding the passive tree I think that the D4 paragon board is much more complicated and almost impossible to grasp for a beginner. But the passive tree in poe2 is completly fine I think. I am a poe beginner and I had no trouble creating my own build on release. Everything is organized in groups and it makes sense.
All I know is that I’m backtracking to find rares more in Poe2 maps now than i did d4 nightmare dungeons. So wtf is that ? How did they not notice that
Only reason people are saying Poe is better than d4 is because they’re just mad at blizzard. I mean nobody except nerds with no job has time to play 20 hours a day and that’s what Poe is designed for
I play a few hours/day, if I play at all. I still far prefer POE/POE 2 over D4. To each their own and all but your opinion does not represent the majority. I'd venture to say it represents a very small portion of players, if any
D4 Beta was, in fact, better than PoE2. And I refunded it for my $100 back.\ The difference is, HOPEFULLY, the developers will probably fix it before 2030 like Blizzard.
I tried D4 because it's free this week, could only play until level 20 but I only made it to level 10, man besides the story nothing else feels good, I get that turning brain off is a relief sometimes, but man it really feels like a kids game, especially after playing PoE2 ! It even looks pretty bad compared to PoE2, which is insane. Playing D4 for an hour made me realize how epic PoE2 actually is.
Jokes aside one thing that I literally hate in PoE are the performance issues even with a high end machine like a 7800X3D and a 4080 for example. Like your pc just shits itself cause of very poor optimization and not to mention the performance in maps on a PS5 are horrible from what I've seen at my friends place. So at least D4 has quite the upper hand there I would say :)
I was tricked. baited so hard. I been playing ARPG's for a very long time. D2 was my favorite for a long time until GRIM DAWN. Now that POE2 is out it has been my favorite since, and I love it. END GAME NEEDS SOME WORK. I do hate the stash tab BS in POE2. But like, I can forgive that.
D4 combat actually feels good. Poe2 combat feels clunky at best and even buggy in many cases. D4 looks better and that’s not an opinion. Poe2 looks 10 years older than D4. If D4 had all of the issues Poe2 has people would lose thier minds.
Appreciate the watch, those first few minutes were hard :D
Lol nice :) had me at first!
Extremely well done lol. I was actually getting mad xD
@@DezXereanas hahaha some people have gotten pretty pissed in the comments
Don't worry about it mate, you're new so you probably weren't aware that poe2 will be free hence the stash tabs.
And that you need to keep buying full game priced expansions in diablo 4.
Nice to see a South African popping off. Good luck on the adventure dude
I got totally baited. I thought he was for real
He had us in the first half
yeah, i actually never finished the video because i thought he is being deadass. he's a good troll for sure.
Shang Tsung got baited?
DIABLO 4 HAS REACHED ITS ULTIMATE FORM
~ John Diablo4, youtube commercial part 1 of 2
Amen!
Rhykker gotta eat, I guess.
@@casediedwell5094he sold his soul but yeah you right
No one can resist Atziri's bazongas
😳
worship the quaditties
@daemoszythae praise the quaditties
I've been playing arpg for about 2 months now and I actually started d4 and I blasted that shit into oblivion. The experience I had opening d4 was AMAZING, grinding till 6am with my friends. But after a few days there was absolutely nothing to do. We felt obligated to jump on so we don't miss anything but just sat there talking more than playing. When I 1st opened poe2 for the 1st time was just a game changer. I have also tasted the forbidden fruit and I'm hooked also. Been up all night the past few night with my face stuck on poe trade trying to upgrade. Haha. I haven't had a single day playing poe where I didn't know what to do.
PoE2 hasn’t even officially released
Been having way more fun in EA than D4
Had a blast with poe 2 but tbh I hate the end game. Its the same garbage as Diablo 3, mindlessly killing everything with 0 effort + I hate the trading platform
Why couldn't hey have just made an ingame auction house
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Once leagues comes out then it will be more fun in endgame. Otherwise don't use meta builds and you will have some struggle
@@Razzlion it is... Meta build its ok only if you know how to farm those curr.
@@Razzlion Sounds like cope, once leagues come out its just going to be more like POE 1. The shift is already noticeable from normal to cruel.
@maxpowers4436 I am enjoying the end game right now. It sounds like you are just hoping for failure because you dont like poe?
Just dont trade and go ssf and you wont snowball like crazy early and roll through.
Ex-d4 Andy here. POE2 is the superior game overall.
That being said a lot of the things that Diablo got absolutely blasted for such as tons of back tracking, 6 second levers, hitting for millions-billions, and one tapping bosses just to name a few are absolutely present in poe2. Difference being one is in EA and the other was a full priced game.
I'm a long term poe player and you're correct there are currently alot of issues, and many changes away from poe that I don't care for but I know for sure GGG will be more receptive to feedback and actually change things. To be fair blizzard did make changes to d4 too but the base game just loses that hook too quickly. Even with all of the flaws in the current crafting the base for in depth gearing is still there and will get better or time
Yea Poe 2 makes almost all the same D4 mistakes sadly. I'm curious how they will deal with bots and bug abusers to stabilize the economy, because right now its a horror show. PoE2 also has technical issues they need to work out. (Probably caused by the listed items in the stash is my guess)
Lets hope this competition will make both games better.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 just play SSF, no economy = stable economy. HC SSF is peak POE1 and 2, you can't change my mind.
PoE1 vet here and I can agree on most of the stuff thats bad rn, but as you said, its still EA and hopefully GGG makes the right decision on most of the stuff
Idk how they even make the same mistakes twice but whatever, if they fix it soon its gonna be good
Poe1 > 2 > d4
So as someone who played around 750h on D4 I can say that the game isn’t even close to POE2 which is only in EA I already uninstalled Diablo 4 and I am now going full time POE2. Even tho i preffer milsim games.Diablo is the only game where I fell asleep while playing it multiple times!! POE2 feels like Elden Ring ARPG version! Really blasting while on holidays and got 2 chars lvl 85! The difference in games is huge I feel like I left the kindergarden (D4) and now moved to University! That’s how huge the gap is! I believe Blizzard saw their numbers and now they are paying everyone to make a videos on how D4 is a good game lol
Nga shutup 😂 if you think Poe Is elden ring difficulty, you're just straight up bad at the game. It's barely harder than d4. Poe2 is not even in a good state for you to be meat riding this much. Even Poe vets aren't extremely happy with it.
@@riothegod1831As someone who did not spend 2000 hours in any POE game before,it was challenging for me,especially at the start as a warrior.I did not watch any guides or anything…i stated my opinion i guess you need to touch the grass…
P.S. Give me the names of POE vets who are upset , be specific
@riothegod1831 i agree. The current state it's in does not surpass D4 yet. People meatride so much
@gvido2923 so say skill issue next time. Cause everything gets one shot in the endgame even on t18 maps and early game is even more of a joke, you're just bad. kripp, ghazzy, dm, ziz have all made videos complaining about either the economy, builds not being versatile, and armor being absolute dogwater. Be gone meat glazer, we need less of you so GGG can actually listen to the ones who know what they're talking about
@@riothegod1831 lol never red so stupid comment in my life :D Joe the Snuffy think he is big boy here...reality is your opinion is irrelevent! I heared Diablo 4 is letting hit it for free go there the Squirtborn is waiting for your skills! haha 🤡🤡
had us in the first half
What's funny is I called it when Lily did. I couldn't tell if he was serious then I saw his passive tree and I was like "oh that's too good, he's a POE player".
He could’ve had sooo much arguing in the comments and forced interaction had he not broke character.
It's ok you have some of it here with people who don't watch videos
Poe2 end game is Poe1. I'll wait till full release.
Same
link to that atziri fanart thou? askingforafriend :)
The marvel stuff in the background really sold the old gamer dad Diablo IV aesthetic
he's a really good actor!
the only thing i didn't believe was when he said "i didn't understand poe, now i do"
after 1200hrs i have no idea what i'm doing.
don't lie to us man
Everyone had enough points to get the stash tabs because they at least bought the $30 package. The point of stash tabs being pay to win is stupid.
For $70 you would spend on Diablo 4 you don't need more than that.
@@Zemlja_je_ravna I don't understand what you're even saying to me. $30 dollars is less than $70. Literally for $30 you get everything you need.
@@dartless not really, but anyone complaining PoE2 is pay for comfort really for what they give for D4 would be more then enough for PoE2.
Not really everyone, tbh. I got a key from a friend that bought the biggest package. Those keys don't come with any points. Thankfully, I bought stash tabs in PoE1 like 10 years ago, so they transfer over.
@@derangedtaco3491 If he really wanted to gift you a game he should have brought you one for $30
D4 bad
D3 mid, but kinda bad
D2 gud
D1 forever alone
D3 was way worse than D4 before RoS, then it got pretty damn good in RoS, but then power creep ruined it again. The game's current (final state) is pretty damn awful. Just senseless numbers going up forever, fixed "builds" based on sets, and with no real loot to chase other than the same set pieces with higher numbers.
Project Diablo 2 and Diablo 1 HD MOD (technoborg) are masterpieces in the same level as poe 1. POE 2 can be better than those in the future with some changes. d3 and d4 are shit
@@steel5897 Hm? Senseless numbers going up and one shotting the hardest bosses is why I stopped playing Poe 2
@@nathanfraga7538 haha
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 The difference is that D3 and D4 are way worse when it comes to that and they are fully released products, while PoE 2 has just entered beta.
He had a point with the skill tree, its nice that its complex in poe2 but it took me a few hours to check the skills and get a build together.
You had me at "at least we know it will get fixed, eventually."
The Druid in PoE 2 looks amazing!
dude he was so good i genuinly thought he was dead serious until he broke character
That guy is a master baiter. He definitely rode the line pretty well.
I was unable to completely commit to a stance until he talked about Diablo still not showing up being such a good buildup.
D4 bad
tbh in end game both are kinda bad. Braindead billions of dmg spam.
@ I was always more of a fan of Japanese Diablo (Phantasy Star Online). POE1 was decent. D4 was alright. POE2 is better than D4 but still needs work.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 We haven't seen POE2 endgame yet........ LMAO We only see half the game the end of the game hasnt been released...............
@@Beezkneez187 the T1-T15 maps are the end game currently. Nothing will change about that any time soon.
They are also working on the 3 remaining story campaigns that won't be part of end game either. New classes, skills, monsters, items, passives.
I don't expect a huge amount of new end game content any time soon.
And I'm not hating on Poe 2, I will play it again in a new season and when new classes drop.
And Diablo 4 on the side as now it is at a pretty good spot
...BUT NOW i need POE2 content from this guy wtf
People are worried about things that mean absolutely nothing.
I no-lifed D4 but since playing POE 2 I immediately knew it would be nearly impossible to get me back to D4 with enthusiasm unless it has a paradigm shift
"I have a civil engineering degree and I cannot figure out what to do here" in response to poe 2's skill tree
this gratified me so deeply as an electrical engineering major who thinks all civil engineers are dumb af
Computer Engineer has entered the chat
You Lily were “Amused”…thats the word you were looking for
I wouldn’t say that I am a smart person but even I figured out the passive tree
This is hilarious! Blizzard is panicking and spamming commercials and paying shills to talk them up. The commercial that keeps popping up that Diablo 4 has reached it's pinnacle form makes my eyes roll every time. If it's in it's pinnacle form right now it's pathetic.
He's got the jack murphy beard. I hope he's not taking zinc shots from the side like jack
It's a Checkers / Chess type revelation. You can only go back if you are drunk to the gills.
Man I quit D4 so fast and went back to Grim Dawn. And now I'm going to ride PoE2 all the way up till GDs new expansion sometime early next year.
same.
Damn I wish he finished without breaking character. That was incredible
I also avoided POE1 and am losing entire days to POE2. Did skip D4 though, played PD2 instead, D3 convinced me blizzard is done making ARPGs worth thinking about.
imagine all the poe players leave for d4 and the d4 players come to d2
I got on D4 yesterday. It was so fast and mindless and casual and fun. And I liked it. There's a place for D4. It's like a mental break where you can just chill and mash one button.
Bro these were the most uncomfortable few minutes in my life lmao I thought he was serious
FM is cool AF. Been checking in on his content all the way back since Outriders (potential lost on that one. Ohhh Outriders).
He is a solid streamer. He knows POE2 is crushing D4 😂😂😂😂😂
Appreciate the comment!
high tier trolling - ugh so gooddd
why did I think the title was "from a ARPG vegetarian"
I started following him when outriders came out and this video had me going for a minute. I laughed so hard at this video of his
Champ!
The asmongoldification of lily
There's a level requirement for the ash used to buff the experience, so no, it's not a thing
He's not wrong about the tabs, it is fishy. That said, if I have to pay for an expansion that is more money than all the core tabs you'd want...
If you're the kind of person that prefers a game that provides Punishment over reward, then POE2 is for you. When you die, you loose alot of stuff. That's just how it is for this game. Take it or leave.
to be honest there are 2 things diablo better than poe 2
1- Optimization
2- Story
Mephisto came and told us the prophecy that they are in the walls
Understand me boy?
They are 2 different games. comparing them is pointless considering POE2 "pre-release" is only half the game and D4 has had patches and been out it should be better.
POE2 - $30 prerelease and can use $30 spent on in game purchases, will be free to play at launch.
Diablo 4- $80 on release, had major bugs, basically a Walmart to buy stuff on release and is predatory.
If anybody is defending blizzard they are being paid, period.
Not going to lie, he got us in the first half.
This video is the textbook definition of Poe's Law. The irony of this law having the same initials as Path of Exile. Do you think he did this on purpose?
I've gotten much more enjoyment from the free path of exile then I did from my 99 dollar pre-ordered diablo 4.
The full measure is great, funny good guy lol
He had me in the first half lmao
Until Blizzard will not deliver at least somewhere near the same amount of endgame content as PoE 2 has... Will be waiting until Diablo 4 will mature enough... Which will not be soon enough...
reaction to 11:41 min video in 11:51 min with all that yapping in pauses, impressive
Am I watching 0.75 or 0.5 speed? kinda slow motion to me when she is talking/speaking.
The only thing from D4 I wish came over are the cinematics, LE has far more I wish was in PoE, like an actual auction house, or the option for SSF which increases the drop quality to componsate and the Crafting is far superior to PoE 2 although I would like a mix of them, but PoE 2 is in early access and the only thing I hate is the trading in the game which is shit.
NGL this guy is actually funny , loved the passive skill tree part lol
POE 2 has major things it needs to work on. Trading is broken, the economy is broken, damage scaling and balance is broken end game is somewhat broken. But visuals are crisp and looks amazing but so does D4 so will just come down to how GGG respond and what they do to sort all this stuff out. But D4 has a multitude of its own problems.
You just need to remember Poe 2 is still a beta game and d4 has been out for more than a year and has a expansion but yeah some things definitely need to be worked on and I hope GGG knocks it out the park on full release 😊😅
We frown upon paying a lot of money for a shit game. I’ve bought 2-3 supporter packs simply bc they don’t ask for it, their priority is the player base, d4 priority is the their bank.. I played d4, and enjoyed it (also beat it completely in a week) but was left wanting soooo much more for that kinda money. How much premium currency does d4 give you when you spend 100$ for base game? 😂🎉 praise be GGG
The only thing that D4 does better is the PvP. Only because there isn't any in PoE.
HE discover the Atziri fanart, that fucking sent me XD
Whoever is defending Diablo 4 is possibly a shareholder who is afraid of losing sales from the game store and future expansions and this affects their speculation on the stock market. Diablo 4 is a game that was born dead and when POE2 leaves early access more and more people will stop playing D4.
I make fun of Diablo not because it’s a bad game puppy because it still feels like I’m building the framework of the house. Poe 2 for all of it flaws has a phenomenal foundation. I don’t like that Diablo four is where it’s at. My first gaming memory is Diablo two
3:00 You can't complain about a 5% exp buff faster, which you also say is easy to get really fast in the free mode as well, and defend PoE stash tabs at the same time. Let me know how long you need to play to earn stash tabs or how unnecessary they are if you're good enough.
People do SSF with no tabs all the time and place top 10 in the ladder too. Tabs are convenient sure there is no debate about that but shouldn't the people who released this free game deserve to keep their bills paid/kids fed/clothes on their backs? If you say no you are the problem here. You paying for early access doesn't mean the game isn't f2p btw. Diablo can't even get you stash tabs after selling the game for $70. I beat all pinnacle bosses on freaking normal PoE1 with absolutely zero extra tabs. It is very easily doable. I am nothing special and I did it.
@@harveyhouk775 And people play D4 without buying the battle pass all the time. I'd argue that people who do are massively more common than the entirety of SSF players, let alone the subset of SSF players that are willing to punish themselves even more by playing without stash tabs.
I didn't say you can't play without stash tabs, I said it's much worse to play PoE without stash tabs than it is to play D4 without slightly faster access to a 5% buff to exp. And even that is being generous because the paid battle pass doesn't actually give you any faster access to the exp buff, you just have to be willing to interact with the free battle pass system.
PoE 2 isn't F2P yet, you can say that it will be on launch but it isn't right now. It's still cheaper than D4, but that doesn't make it F2P. Even so, you don't get to launch your game as F2P and then whine about not getting money when people start playing.
That's the whole idea of F2P; get people to play because it's free and then grind them down with inconveniences that *shock* the in-game shop can mitigate for them. P2P games that include F2P microtransactions are bad, but that's because F2P microtransactions are bad and it's worse because they're trying to double dip.
GGG is doing that as well, regardless of what their plans for the future are. Their store is better than normal, sure, but that doesn't make it better than D4 which has an even less predatory microtransaction store. The ideal microtransaction store is one that never got added to the game, but since we can't have that anymore it is at least better not to have convenience as a selling point.
I'm not saying D4 is better than PoE2, so their BS answer to limited stash tabs doesn't matter. I'm talking about the in-game store. That's it. As for it being $70 and worse, that also doesn't matter because I'm not trying to argue based on the merits of the game. If PoE2 released for $70 and it didn't have an in-game store I'd think it was an improvement.
If you think beating all pinnacle bosses in PoE 1 makes you "nothing special" you're a moron. Only 20% of PoE players (Steam) have gotten an Ascendancy. If you're going to humble brag, at least try to make it somewhat believable. Masochists like you who defend F2P business models because "you can do it just fine without paying" and "if you think they should release their game for free and not have a store you're the problem" are what make whales the perfect business model for F2P games. It's your "nothing special" mindset that convinced Blizzard to make Diablo Immortal, so thanks for that.
His first Point is the Cash-Shop?😂😂😂😂
poe 1 gaps both of them tho 🤝
I've seen more different mobs and bosses in poe2 act 1 than in 500 hours in diablo IV
You should not compare the PoE passive tree with the D4 skill tree. Instead compare the gem system to the D4 skill tree and then compare the passive tree with the paragon board in D4. The gem system in PoE is like an improved version of the skill system in Diablo 3 which is much better than D4. Regarding the passive tree I think that the D4 paragon board is much more complicated and almost impossible to grasp for a beginner. But the passive tree in poe2 is completly fine I think. I am a poe beginner and I had no trouble creating my own build on release. Everything is organized in groups and it makes sense.
I lol’d so hard at the atziri fan art 😂😂
All I know is that I’m backtracking to find rares more in Poe2 maps now than i did d4 nightmare dungeons. So wtf is that ? How did they not notice that
He makes good content for the games he plays. He will be a good creator in the space
I really thought he was forreal
Gonna need more legs and knee thumbnails pls, kthxbai❤
That clapping was the worldwide D4 fanbase.
two things. First; It's true the passive tree that he shows is way better that many "Best videos" that i saw. and second; Atziri fanart??
I was bamboozled
Only reason people are saying Poe is better than d4 is because they’re just mad at blizzard. I mean nobody except nerds with no job has time to play 20 hours a day and that’s what Poe is designed for
I play a few hours/day, if I play at all. I still far prefer POE/POE 2 over D4. To each their own and all but your opinion does not represent the majority. I'd venture to say it represents a very small portion of players, if any
pay for convince or pay to play the game? huh its satire theres just no way
if you watched more of the video you'd know
D4 Beta was, in fact, better than PoE2. And I refunded it for my $100 back.\
The difference is, HOPEFULLY, the developers will probably fix it before 2030 like Blizzard.
I will sub because of the number of times you said "poop" in your last video
D4 has way better cutscenes.
Their cinematics are amazing that's it.
way better payed actors to advertise the game
Yes, the game that has cuts cutscenes has better cutscenes than the game that doesn't have cutscenes. Great observation 😂
Only good thing about d4 was the cinematic. The actual game is dogshit
When I thought about it again, the story was nothing. But the cutscenes were nice. Funny, that
I tried D4 because it's free this week, could only play until level 20 but I only made it to level 10, man besides the story nothing else feels good, I get that turning brain off is a relief sometimes, but man it really feels like a kids game, especially after playing PoE2 ! It even looks pretty bad compared to PoE2, which is insane. Playing D4 for an hour made me realize how epic PoE2 actually is.
Bro really think that stash tab would make the game ez?? Lol
Must be true I keep getting d4 is in its ultimate form ads
South African got you thinking, best bait ever
DIABLOS PAY TO WIN IS THE $70 GAME lmao
He says so at the end of the video
lets stop putting every video on 2x speed.
never. YOU CANNOT STOP ME. TYRANT
if it makes me rage, it's rage bait.
I'm so tired of people constantly going on and on about poe vs d.
I personaly like both games and have grievances about both too.
I'm convinced, I'm going to D4. I don't want yo to have to think in my games. Just railroad me and take $80 bucks from me every 6 months.
Jokes aside one thing that I literally hate in PoE are the performance issues even with a high end machine like a 7800X3D and a 4080 for example. Like your pc just shits itself cause of very poor optimization and not to mention the performance in maps on a PS5 are horrible from what I've seen at my friends place. So at least D4 has quite the upper hand there I would say :)
I was tricked. baited so hard. I been playing ARPG's for a very long time. D2 was my favorite for a long time until GRIM DAWN. Now that POE2 is out it has been my favorite since, and I love it. END GAME NEEDS SOME WORK. I do hate the stash tab BS in POE2. But like, I can forgive that.
D4 combat actually feels good. Poe2 combat feels clunky at best and even buggy in many cases. D4 looks better and that’s not an opinion. Poe2 looks 10 years older than D4. If D4 had all of the issues Poe2 has people would lose thier minds.
"googles atziri fanart"
btw POE2 stash is the size of D1 stash, back in the day :))
GG i always tell D4 players that in D4 you PLAY a class but in POE you BUILD a class!
PoE 2's story is neither simple nor complicated which is good, i played diablo 4 for 3 hours and i got lost in the first hour