Sounds great, but I do love the look of the triple stacked end cans of the more basic bikes like the Rosso. That’s part of what makes them look special.
I did a fair bit of research before deciding which race can to get for my F3. In the end I went with a Zero exhaust as its practically identical to the stock one. It cost £750 and was hand-built by the guy who runs the company in Ashford, Kent. I had to wait 2 or 3 weeks for it to arrive, but it was worth the wait as it looks lovely. It is bloody loud though!
I have a 2020 version and the brakes are phenomenal, also didn't want electronic suspension, bought an ohlins c-spanner to set up perfectly for my weight, these bikes are the closest to race bike handling on the road you can get.
A corvette does the same thing as a Ferrari or Lambo. Exotic cars and bikes feel special as they pull on your heart strings. These are rare, unique bikes, no mods needed. You do not see on every corner. An exotic race bike with a 3 year warranty
I have bought the Rosso version! The bike is amazing and to me the RR does not justify its price because its the same as the Rosso with carbon fairings, there is no functional difference… To be called the RR they should have put Öhlins suspensions front and rear, an Öhlins Steering Damper and also a Race ECU with more hp that would worth the extra R name… The brakes behave just as the MCN test rider described… thats one big issue to be solved by MV… Brembo calipers with Nissin master cylinders don’t work well…The brake levers feel sluggish and inconsistent… The TFT dash is too slow to initialize every time you start the bike and the bluetooth connection with the MV App + Headsets should also be improved… To me because of price and color the Rosso its definitely the option to go with! I have fitted a Full Titanium exhaust (Termignoni headers with a SC project S1 slip on) which lowered the weight from 173kg to 166kg increasing the power by 10 hp! Its a perfect power to weight ratio! Fast, light, smooth power delivery on a very stable bike and all of this in the greatest looking sport bike ever designed! Amazing review by MCN! Congrats! 👏🏼✌🏼
It does come with Race ECU, he did not know to mention it, all MV race kits come with race ECU to my knowledge. They over fuel at low rpm in road use according to MV,s advice to dealers. Agree 100% Rosso is best buy, RR needs more for the money.
Nicely nuanced review. Well done Neevsey. MVs aren’t for inexperienced riders and, as a niche offering, they only reward those who know exactly what they want & understand what they’re getting. Pro tip: buy an ex demo or a low mileage example and avoid the sticker shock. And ignore the out of date myths, the main issue with running a modern MV is finding a decent service point.
If you intend to keep you may aswell service it yourself. Even desmo systems on Ducati's are easy enough to work on. Make your own potato stamp and stamp your own service book.
As Suzuki still makes the GSXR750 how about a new one, yes I understand it is still “old school”, however it would make for a better comparison as in my opinion the Suzuki is the best all round sport bike. I might be biased as I did race them when the WSB were 4 cylinder 750 cc Japanese bikes and the L twin 916. 👍😎🇦🇺
@@checker3694 exactly and the Gixxer was nowhere near the Ducati in the comparison video of Knox. It was left behind by miles in all departments by the Pani. The only thing speaking for it, is price and comfort but that's about it. I'm a gixxer owner and love mine for what it is, but times have moved on and don't see Suzuki wanting to upgrade it anymore..
Finally someone mentions how loud ADV bikes and Tall-rounders get on motorways. Really thought that there was something wrong with me. Lovely review and lovely bike, but how does one justify buying one when the Panigale V2 is around ?
@@NudaMan A Panigale V2 is 16 grand in the UK, 4 grand cheaper than the F3. That's a lot to pay for an extra cylinder. I do like a triple, but not that much more than a V2. Besides, it's not as if the F3 platform was all new.
I have both a V2 and superveloce 800, euro 5 which is identical bike to F3 other than fairings, they are both fabulous bikes, but chalk and cheese, MV better road bike, and better road engine, better road oriented riding position, more road compliant suspension. V2 far superior track bike, harsher riding position, harsher suspension, engine more 2 stroke like power builds and then bang, about 3.5k rpm power band, MV has more refined power delivery over V2 , but a bit less of a rush,V2 is pure ducati, extreme handling and grip limits and excellent electronic package .Superveloce is about 2.7k more than ducati new, and it shows in paint quality and detail touches.
It is irrelevant if the motorcycle Michael reviews is of interest to one. You just watch mezmerized from start to finish and at the end feel more educated. GOAT.
Michael failed to tell you about the race kit, full contents , MV charge £2200 for, also includes a £600 race ECU tuned to the akro end can which give the bike a claimed 155bhp, and higher rev limit. I can assure you Michael is not a GOAT, he has not got 4 legs and a tail, and looks for someone washing line the eat the clothes off. He is however human and not perfect, and does not always have facts to hand. I still rate him as one of the best bike journos, grounded and totally honest,but not mesmerised by him or anyone else.
One of the most beautiful bikes ever. But this version is underwhelming in that color. And I am sorry but this bike needs those stacked triple outlet pipes. If I got this bike I would fit the standard exhaust
I considered ordering this, but I’m glad I didn’t. I think it’ll be great for the street rider that occasionally does a track day or two, but there are better options for a pure track bike at the RR’s price point. It’s a gorgeous bike of course :)
2003, i walked out of the Kawasaki dealer with a brand new ZX-6RR being loaded in the back of my truck.(June in Florida). Out the door with a tag, a new helmet, jacket, gloves and straps for $10,300.... The 2020 R6, just the fkn bike, tax and tag pushed it over $16k. But they were nice enough to give me a t-ahirt and it does wonders being used as a rag to wash the wheels.
Fantastic review Neevesy - gotta love MV they do something that no other manufactures does, create truly unique head-turning bikes. Ok maybe Ducati but MV are the best for exotica! The standard bike looks miles better I'd take that over this one and save £7k. Laughing
What a beauty. I’m stuck on the 2014 800… but I still love it. My only criticism is how light the frontend gets, needs a damper IMO (plus a tankslapper crushes your thumbs between the tank and grips … I know from experience!)
If it's not Japanese and more specifically Honda or Kawasaki, it's far from being ultimate. I never used MV Agusta, but i can right now tell you that it's not even getting close to being a high quality bike, not to speak about being "ultimate"
Firstly I'll say I love it. Lots of Italian premium flair with the bragging rights and it's something different and special in it's own right. I agree that it's not worth the money considering the lack of bells and whistles. It's one I'd buy and cherish mostly as a garage queen fair weather rider if I had money to throw away. It's gorgeous and looks lots of fun though.
Seems awfully expensive but when you consider one of the leaking, smoking, misfiring and rusted apart Harleys sitting parked next to it costed roughly the same makes it more comforting. You're paying for watch maker levels of design and machining. Not a goofy name on some assless chaps.
Goes to show you how clueless your are where bikes are concerned, Harleys are probably best paint quality bikes you can buy after MV's. I own MV,s a harley, and the worst bikes for paint quality are BMW,s and I own 2 of them. Just thought I would jump in when I hear someone talk total crap.
$20K w/o Ohlins is just too GOT-DAMN high! Plus another $2K for the race kit?GTFOH! It is THE sexiest bike ever, but still, $20K?! Now will the race kit work on the Rosso?
I think it's the perfect time for this class ,MV and Ducati V2 have had it to themselves for past few years, 200bhp+ sports bikes are becoming pointless, you can't enjoy them anywhere, only on track, and then how many tracks can you enjoy 200bhp plus bikes, I think the writing is on the wall for them, Truimph see it coming, hence the speed thriple rr a sports bike for the road.
The rear brake is a problem on virtually every 3 cylinder MV if they are unused for a period of time (winter lay ups , sat in showrooms ect)air gets trapped in abs pump, is so common MV put a bleed nipple on ABS pumps now, interesting to see you have front brake travel as well, my new superveloce front brake, new bike from last October was fine until winter lay up and now is like this one needs one pump to hard lever, now ,no air in system, I think faulty Nissan brake master. My 21 dragster front is fine, also back brake needed bleeding as well. There is a solution on MV forums to stop this though.
'You could say this is quite niche'...I believe we can all agree on that...I looked at and considered a second hand Brutali from a dealer here in Alicante a few years ago. Its was immaculate, low mileage etc!.....then I looked at having it serviced ...where and how much.!...bought a Triumph Street Triple 675 instead.....I'm a happy bunny
Probably issue with specific programming for this bike because continental makes the ABS units for BMW's S1000 series and the brakes on those bikes are phenomenal
First thing caught my eye was that brake res sitting under the clutch case. All those shrouds and cowling and they couldn't disguise it a little for the money?? Incredible soundtrack regardless 👍
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How come there are no super sport motorcycles? Each brand has more than three models minimum, how many more should there be?
I have a question because I'm currently getting my A driving license. My dream bike is an F3 600 or 800. But I have often heard that the Agustas are very vulnerable. what do you say about that?
We have just finished fitting and putting the bikes in my works new MV showroom, the f3's are beautiful bikes , very tempted by an f3 myself, although it makes sense that they are working on a new F4 ... the brutale 1000 already has the chassis and engine for it 🤔
Wind noise doesn't bother me all that much to be honest. I wear ear plugs when riding and they take care of the bulk of the annoying high pitched whines.
Great vid & very nice bike but too pricey for me. Why oh why don't Suzuki update the GSX-R750? Give it 150bhp, adjustable rearsets & clips-ons as well as a reasonable but not OTT electronics package & surely it'd sell well wouldn't it?
The 750 has 150 bhp at the crank, 130 ish at the wheel. Which I believe is decent. I think few mods on the gsxr750 and you can easily push it to 150/160+. For reference: R6 with larger pistons makes 135/140 at the wheel.
@@whitevador8875 Yes it is decent & plenty imo. I used to have a K6 with 133bhp at the rear wheel in standard trim & it was great. It was sedate or savage depending on what you wanted it to be & I always felt in total control. No need to go for too much power as the150 mark is just right. Enough to be very quick but still useable & not intimidating. Perfect.
Why is it that he says this is the last supersport, when we have bikes like the S1000RR, R1, GSXR1000, ZX10, ZX14, H2/H2R, CBR1000RR/RR-R, Panigale V4, not to mention all the
Triumph should make a modern supersport from the STR 765 - bit more development than that Daytona 765 special. Not cheap but affordable. And they'd cater for a market nobody else really tries anymore, the Japanese have given up and this MV's way overpriced.
Yeah, I really miss the induction roar of my F3 RC, since I installed a Zero race exhaust. Its definitely not road legal and drowns out everything, defens me, and pisses off the townsfolk. On the positive side it looks identical to the stock exhaust!
Nice bike, nothing to say, beautiful review as always neveesy but for the same amount of money considering that is a bike track focused I'll buy the new 2022 GYTR R6. That's my very personal and humble thought.
Good review once more! That left hand "open" connector is really untidy! To be honest I like the previous gen's looks more.... And it is just too expensive! The 660 Aprilia will be a much better buy!! Then there still are the lingering memories of MV's reliability and real ownership costs.... Mmmm. Regards!!
What the hell, the 660 Aprilia compared to this??? Sorry, but you're talking about two absolutely completely different bikes! They are in totally different categories. You are wrong, actually MV Agustas are far better value for money than Aprilia 660. And I love Aprilias. The Aprilia 660s are super cheap category bikes spruced up a bit and with a really well done design, they've approached from the super cheap bike category slightly upwards. The MV Rosso models are super expensive category bikes made slightly cheaper. But they still have all the features you'd expect. For some reason the price difference is much larger in the UK than elsewhere in Europe. At least new-old-stock MV Agustas are a great buy, or very slightly used. Elsewhere the Aprilia and MV are almost identical in price which means the MV is an absolute bargain compared to the far inferior Aprilia. Go try an MV Agusta. It might take a very long time to get used to the amazing feel and absolute immediacy of its reactions and responses, but once you get used to it you'll never accept anything else.
@@pistonburner6448 I work at a aprilia/Ktm dealer and stay away from the RS6Shitty🤮🤮🤮 we already replaced a brand new engine on a Tuono 660, underpower and overpriced… better off buying a Gen 2 RSV
@@TheJWC56RSA Yes, MV Agustas are very reliable.And exactly those Aprilia RS660s have had reliability issues. Why would MV Agusta ownership costs be high? You're spewing absolute nonsense based on nothing. Do you even know what the very few typical faults MV Agustas used to have were? Do you know what fixes were done since then? I bet you have no clue about any of it.
I have 2 F4s, one with 10k on the clock and one with 3k. Neither have ever let me down ever. I also have a classic Ducati, when it comes to servicing the MVs cost around 1/3 of the Ducati (if it needs a belt service) so not expensive at all. When people ask me about the bikes the first thing they ask me as about reliability. Maybe there were some bad ones early on? Mine are as reliable as any bike I’ve ever owned
What the test doesn’t tell you is the horrendous parts/serving support in the UK, the terrible build quality and poor reliability and that brake issue was exactly the same on my 2014 version, so they have done nothing about it since then. Take it from someone who spent £19k on an F3 800 Ago DON’T DO IT!
@@checker3694 clearly not, that is still the same bike I purchased with some “aero wings and a tft dash added.” The bike still has the same braking issue I had which was one of a very long list of faults that I returned the bike for a full refund after 6 months of ownership.
You are talking total lies. You have no clue what you're talking about. Astroturfer of another brand? I mean you are actually spewing lies based on a totally different bike, MANY generations older than the ones on sale today, and the whole company under new ownership and after a total reworking of everything!! And even for the old bikes of that ancient generation you're not talking truthfully. I swear companies should go after misinformation spreaders like you legally...
In racing the supersport class has the 600cc inline 4 bikes (and the GSX-R750) and the superbike class has 1000cc inline 4s so I think those are the best definitions. These are all very powerful and fast (120-200 BHP) and run at very high RPMs (~14,000) and have aggressive (forward-leaning) riding positions. "Sport bike" is an umbrella term which encompasses supersports, superbikes, nakeds, and other things that are not ADVs, cruisers, or off-road/dirtbikes. Basically bikes designed to be ridden on the road only and at reasonably high speeds. The Wikipedia page seems to corroborate. However I am no expert so I may be wrong but this is my take.
Where is the lovely MV Augusta badge to be seen?? With that dark carbon, looking at it from the side, it could be any generic Japanese 600 sportsbike. With the original F4, there was no mistaking it was an MV, or even the standard Rosso F3 version of this, actually. That cheapo exposed socket would also not be seen on the F4, despite this being superior electrically, rider aid wise and fueling. Which begs the question, why not review the standard Rosso, which most are going to buy, will be easier to get, and is arguably better looking?? I'm hoping to get a 2006 or 2007 F4, this summer. It's nowhere near as refined as this, uncomfortable after 45 minutes, but immeasurably more beautiful (still the original Tamburini design) and a far, far better investment.
THANK YOU for no background music and lots of engine sound! I’d buy an Agusta in a heartbeat but there is no dealer or service within 100 miles.
Sounds great, but I do love the look of the triple stacked end cans of the more basic bikes like the Rosso. That’s part of what makes them look special.
Totally agree you see that and straight away you think mmm a mv
Gotta agree, the Std bike looks miles better! £2000 for a pipe which looks generic - no thanks.
100% agree. Without the trademark triple can, this ends up looking like a modded Gixxer.
@@JCintheBCC my thoughts exactly!
I did a fair bit of research before deciding which race can to get for my F3. In the end I went with a Zero exhaust as its practically identical to the stock one. It cost £750 and was hand-built by the guy who runs the company in Ashford, Kent. I had to wait 2 or 3 weeks for it to arrive, but it was worth the wait as it looks lovely. It is bloody loud though!
I have a 2020 version and the brakes are phenomenal, also didn't want electronic suspension, bought an ohlins c-spanner to set up perfectly for my weight, these bikes are the closest to race bike handling on the road you can get.
I agree with that, just turn the screws, also less maintenance!
Always put ear plugs when riding.
You hear every thing other than the wind noise. Try it! You will love it.
BEAUTIFUL machine. These are the reviews that make bikers blood run!
Thank You MCN
Are you paid by MV Agusta to write these lies?
@@pantysnifer927 You´ve seen the bike on the video right? Did you ear the engine too? Now the very important question: You ride\love bikes?
Naw bro it's really Vladimir Putin in disguise...
A corvette does the same thing as a Ferrari or Lambo. Exotic cars and bikes feel special as they pull on your heart strings. These are rare, unique bikes, no mods needed. You do not see on every corner. An exotic race bike with a 3 year warranty
I have bought the Rosso version! The bike is amazing and to me the RR does not justify its price because its the same as the Rosso with carbon fairings, there is no functional difference… To be called the RR they should have put Öhlins suspensions front and rear, an Öhlins Steering Damper and also a Race ECU with more hp that would worth the extra R name… The brakes behave just as the MCN test rider described… thats one big issue to be solved by MV… Brembo calipers with Nissin master cylinders don’t work well…The brake levers feel sluggish and inconsistent… The TFT dash is too slow to initialize every time you start the bike and the bluetooth connection with the MV App + Headsets should also be improved… To me because of price and color the Rosso its definitely the option to go with! I have fitted a Full Titanium exhaust (Termignoni headers with a SC project S1 slip on) which lowered the weight from 173kg to 166kg increasing the power by 10 hp! Its a perfect power to weight ratio! Fast, light, smooth power delivery on a very stable bike and all of this in the greatest looking sport bike ever designed! Amazing review by MCN! Congrats! 👏🏼✌🏼
I freakin love my Rosso! I definitely agree that there weren’t enough differences between the RR and Rosso to justify the price difference
ohlins front and rear would make this a 40k bike
It does come with Race ECU, he did not know to mention it, all MV race kits come with race ECU to my knowledge. They over fuel at low rpm in road use according to MV,s advice to dealers. Agree 100% Rosso is best buy, RR needs more for the money.
MV's thing for me is the exhaust per cylinder look
@@checker3694 yes race ecu and exhaust it also cost more due to the carbon fibre, carbon fibre is expensive, overall is a nice price
Nicely nuanced review. Well done Neevsey. MVs aren’t for inexperienced riders and, as a niche offering, they only reward those who know exactly what they want & understand what they’re getting.
Pro tip: buy an ex demo or a low mileage example and avoid the sticker shock. And ignore the out of date myths, the main issue with running a modern MV is finding a decent service point.
If you intend to keep you may aswell service it yourself. Even desmo systems on Ducati's are easy enough to work on. Make your own potato stamp and stamp your own service book.
Simon Neeves is the only bike journalist that I listen to always informative and tells it like it is
Another passionate yet informative review from Neeves. Love the slow mo shot when you were talking about it's sound. Awesome thanks
Be interesting to see a comparison of this to the Panigale V2 and an old GSXR750.
Genius idea 🙌🏻
As Suzuki still makes the GSXR750 how about a new one, yes I understand it is still “old school”, however it would make for a better comparison as in my opinion the Suzuki is the best all round sport bike. I might be biased as I did race them when the WSB were 4 cylinder 750 cc Japanese bikes and the L twin 916. 👍😎🇦🇺
There is one on you tube,t he guy from Knox gear put his gsxr 750 up against V2, great video
@@checker3694 Thanks for the info, I’ll check it out.
@@checker3694 exactly and the Gixxer was nowhere near the Ducati in the comparison video of Knox.
It was left behind by miles in all departments by the Pani.
The only thing speaking for it, is price and comfort but that's about it.
I'm a gixxer owner and love mine for what it is, but times have moved on and don't see Suzuki wanting to upgrade it anymore..
Finally someone mentions how loud ADV bikes and Tall-rounders get on motorways. Really thought that there was something wrong with me. Lovely review and lovely bike, but how does one justify buying one when the Panigale V2 is around ?
Tall-rounders?
You either want a 800 triple or a 959 L-Twin 🤷🏾♂️
@@NudaMan A Panigale V2 is 16 grand in the UK, 4 grand cheaper than the F3. That's a lot to pay for an extra cylinder. I do like a triple, but not that much more than a V2. Besides, it's not as if the F3 platform was all new.
@@vininio A term I've heard thrown around to designate 17" wheeled bikes with ADV-inspired geometries. Think Tracer 9.
I have both a V2 and superveloce 800, euro 5 which is identical bike to F3 other than fairings, they are both fabulous bikes, but chalk and cheese, MV better road bike, and better road engine, better road oriented riding position, more road compliant suspension. V2 far superior track bike, harsher riding position, harsher suspension, engine more 2 stroke like power builds and then bang, about 3.5k rpm power band, MV has more refined power delivery over V2 , but a bit less of a rush,V2 is pure ducati, extreme handling and grip limits and excellent electronic package .Superveloce is about 2.7k more than ducati new, and it shows in paint quality and detail touches.
The great Mr Neeves, proper review as usual!
"Slice through the gears and control the orchestra from the 3 cylinder" and "hedonism exotica" Neevsey does another great review!
It is irrelevant if the motorcycle Michael reviews is of interest to one. You just watch mezmerized from start to finish and at the end feel more educated. GOAT.
Michael failed to tell you about the race kit, full contents , MV charge £2200 for, also includes a £600 race ECU tuned to the akro end can which give the bike a claimed 155bhp, and higher rev limit. I can assure you Michael is not a GOAT, he has not got 4 legs and a tail, and looks for someone washing line the eat the clothes off. He is however human and not perfect, and does not always have facts to hand. I still rate him as one of the best bike journos, grounded and totally honest,but not mesmerised by him or anyone else.
11:05 Man, I love that jacket. Looks great for a sports bike rider.
MV keep producing supersport it is a essential catagory take the mantle of your heritage THE LEAD🏍️
Typical Neeves great review. No fluff just to the point. All the info I need.
One of the most beautiful bikes ever. But this version is underwhelming in that color. And I am sorry but this bike needs those stacked triple outlet pipes. If I got this bike I would fit the standard exhaust
Yeah, I think that it is blasphemy to fit a can on a triple MV.
I considered ordering this, but I’m glad I didn’t. I think it’ll be great for the street rider that occasionally does a track day or two, but there are better options for a pure track bike at the RR’s price point.
It’s a gorgeous bike of course :)
Yeah, Daytona, Panigale V2, but sweet Jesus the MV destroys everything in its path when it comes to design and sound
@@dedelabinouze5110 Daytona is slow compared to this one. For track days F3 800 is superior to Daytona hand down more or less on everything
This is a nice video and great how you capture the engine roar. But where are your full leathers on a supersport?
The windnoise comment made my heart and my worn out ear drums cry
Excellent review by Neeves as usual.
Definitely my dream bike I love the F3 675 RM 😍😍😍
Thank you again! for a proper review. I hope you get the chance to test the Superveloce AGO, there you have the ölins suspension
2003, i walked out of the Kawasaki dealer with a brand new ZX-6RR being loaded in the back of my truck.(June in Florida). Out the door with a tag, a new helmet, jacket, gloves and straps for $10,300.... The 2020 R6, just the fkn bike, tax and tag pushed it over $16k. But they were nice enough to give me a t-ahirt and it does wonders being used as a rag to wash the wheels.
Good to see MV sorting out fueling the first year out instead of the 2nd year . Buying the F3RR for Superbike collection .
Fantastic review Neevesy - gotta love MV they do something that no other manufactures does, create truly unique head-turning bikes. Ok maybe Ducati but MV are the best for exotica! The standard bike looks miles better I'd take that over this one and save £7k. Laughing
brilliant review, as always.
What a beauty. I’m stuck on the 2014 800… but I still love it. My only criticism is how light the frontend gets, needs a damper IMO (plus a tankslapper crushes your thumbs between the tank and grips … I know from experience!)
Imagine if MV bikes were afordable. Man those bikes look nice
How is the Rosso's price not affordable?
MV Agusta make absolutely gorgeous bikes...they just need to get the prices considerably down
If it's not Japanese and more specifically Honda or Kawasaki, it's far from being ultimate.
I never used MV Agusta, but i can right now tell you that it's not even getting close to being a high quality bike, not to speak about being "ultimate"
great honest review thanks as usual
Firstly I'll say I love it. Lots of Italian premium flair with the bragging rights and it's something different and special in it's own right.
I agree that it's not worth the money considering the lack of bells and whistles.
It's one I'd buy and cherish mostly as a garage queen fair weather rider if I had money to throw away.
It's gorgeous and looks lots of fun though.
What Arai helmet model is Neeves wearing?
Seems awfully expensive but when you consider one of the leaking, smoking, misfiring and rusted apart Harleys sitting parked next to it costed roughly the same makes it more comforting.
You're paying for watch maker levels of design and machining. Not a goofy name on some assless chaps.
Love your words so true and the assless chaps cracked me up Jordan
Goes to show you how clueless your are where bikes are concerned, Harleys are probably best paint quality bikes you can buy after MV's. I own MV,s a harley, and the worst bikes for paint quality are BMW,s and I own 2 of them. Just thought I would jump in when I hear someone talk total crap.
@@checker3694 thanks
In the 150hp range what would you suggest for a track/ twisties bike?
$20K w/o Ohlins is just too GOT-DAMN high! Plus another $2K for the race kit?GTFOH! It is THE sexiest bike ever, but still, $20K?! Now will the race kit work on the Rosso?
It’s one of the best looking SS out there to me but as you mentioned, too expensive and too late to a class that barely exists nowadays.
I think it's the perfect time for this class ,MV and Ducati V2 have had it to themselves for past few years, 200bhp+ sports bikes are becoming pointless, you can't enjoy them anywhere, only on track, and then how many tracks can you enjoy 200bhp plus bikes, I think the writing is on the wall for them, Truimph see it coming, hence the speed thriple rr a sports bike for the road.
@@checker3694 Hehe, Triumph Speed Triple? Too soft and too little feel, too tame. MV Agusta has the Brutale and Dragster...
If the RR is too expensive then there's the Rosso model for you. Nothing missing on that bike, basically just different suspension components.
@drsrsv8884 You start a sentence with a capital letter.
Awesome video as always and the bike is just simply a masterpiece.
The rear brake is a problem on virtually every 3 cylinder MV if they are unused for a period of time (winter lay ups , sat in showrooms ect)air gets trapped in abs pump, is so common MV put a bleed nipple on ABS pumps now, interesting to see you have front brake travel as well, my new superveloce front brake, new bike from last October was fine until winter lay up and now is like this one needs one pump to hard lever, now ,no air in system, I think faulty Nissan brake master. My 21 dragster front is fine, also back brake needed bleeding as well. There is a solution on MV forums to stop this though.
After 2x F3 800,...This is certainely my next F3! A real Sports bike with max control en Extraordenary fun.
What happened to the first 2 🤔
@@zero2hero606 a lot of km/miles each year! My RC 800 allready has 20.000km for the last 12 months, great bike for the road & circuit
Great to hear man, i love this bike but im fearin reliability😢
@@zero2hero606 after 10years of development the RR/rosso is the best of its kind! Do not hesitate to drive one,...
Pure art 😍
'You could say this is quite niche'...I believe we can all agree on that...I looked at and considered a second hand Brutali from a dealer here in Alicante a few years ago. Its was immaculate, low mileage etc!.....then I looked at having it serviced ...where and how much.!...bought a Triumph Street Triple 675 instead.....I'm a happy bunny
Think I'd stick with the Rosso version and save a few bob, Would absolutely love to sample that MV triple motor! Sounds proper delish!!
I had to triple check to make sure it wasn't a new GSXR 1k
Where were you riding? Roads look great!
Does it come with a set of spare valves?
For the coffee table?
I really appreciate that Neeves did all of this while being eaten alive by mosquitoes! Really liked the bike too.
Also the wing section on the fairing makes the bike look fatter and not as good. But this can be said of all bikes that do a similar thing.
How does it compare to the last F4?
Headlight LED or not?
Probably issue with specific programming for this bike because continental makes the ABS units for BMW's S1000 series and the brakes on those bikes are phenomenal
First thing caught my eye was that brake res sitting under the clutch case. All those shrouds and cowling and they couldn't disguise it a little for the money?? Incredible soundtrack regardless 👍
How come there are no super sport motorcycles? Each brand has more than three models minimum, how many more should there be?
Have they sorted their engine problems?
What do you mean when you say they don't make a lot of supersport motorcycles?
This bike right here should be the sole engine supplier for the Moto2 class. A bike that would sound and perform much better than the Triumph 765.
No doubt its a great looking poster bike but wtf is that price 😅😅
remember the fuelling on my old f4 1000
I have a question because I'm currently getting my A driving license. My dream bike is an F3 600 or 800.
But I have often heard that the Agustas are very vulnerable.
what do you say about that?
Lets hope the engine does not kill itself
We have just finished fitting and putting the bikes in my works new MV showroom, the f3's are beautiful bikes , very tempted by an f3 myself, although it makes sense that they are working on a new F4 ... the brutale 1000 already has the chassis and engine for it 🤔
Great review , price is high but the sound makes up for a bit of it lol
"Racing fuel cap" looks suspiciously similar (i.e. identical) to the Chinese one on my race bike that cost me 10 quid or so
For 22k I would want that bike to ride itself and after the ride to fold itself up and fit in my backpack.
It’s so damn good looking!
I want it.
Wind noise doesn't bother me all that much to be honest.
I wear ear plugs when riding and they take care of the bulk of the annoying high pitched whines.
yeah earplugs is a must
Great vid & very nice bike but too pricey for me. Why oh why don't Suzuki update the GSX-R750? Give it 150bhp, adjustable rearsets & clips-ons as well as a reasonable but not OTT electronics package & surely it'd sell well wouldn't it?
The MV's Rosso model is far cheaper.
The 750 has 150 bhp at the crank, 130 ish at the wheel. Which I believe is decent. I think few mods on the gsxr750 and you can easily push it to 150/160+.
For reference: R6 with larger pistons makes 135/140 at the wheel.
@@whitevador8875 Yes it is decent & plenty imo. I used to have a K6 with 133bhp at the rear wheel in standard trim & it was great. It was sedate or savage depending on what you wanted it to be & I always felt in total control. No need to go for too much power as the150 mark is just right. Enough to be very quick but still useable & not intimidating. Perfect.
Why is it that he says this is the last supersport, when we have bikes like the S1000RR, R1, GSXR1000, ZX10, ZX14, H2/H2R, CBR1000RR/RR-R, Panigale V4, not to mention all the
Is MV more reliable than the Ducati and Aprilia?
This or the panigale v2?
Very nice,but I would get the Rosso version to go alongside my VFR800 .....
Good review, nice camera shots..... Removing the triple pipes.... Nooooo
Awesome acoustics
Front spoiler useless for the road??? I rode my V65 Magna 155 mph every weekend on the highway between Lincoln and Ashville Nebraska.
Triumph should make a modern supersport from the STR 765 - bit more development than that Daytona 765 special. Not cheap but affordable. And they'd cater for a market nobody else really tries anymore, the Japanese have given up and this MV's way overpriced.
Agree, they should reintroduce the Daytona for the WSSP now that the Panigale V2 has been allowed, a Daytona 765 RS would be amazing
Yeah, I really miss the induction roar of my F3 RC, since I installed a Zero race exhaust. Its definitely not road legal and drowns out everything, defens me, and pisses off the townsfolk. On the positive side it looks identical to the stock exhaust!
the Rosso looks way better imo. love those triple pipes
Nice bike, nothing to say, beautiful review as always neveesy but for the same amount of money considering that is a bike track focused I'll buy the new 2022 GYTR R6.
That's my very personal and humble thought.
“Forged carbon fibre fairing lowers”? I’m missing something here. How can carbon fibre be forged?
I’d still take my 2005 R6 thanks
Good review once more! That left hand "open" connector is really untidy! To be honest I like the previous gen's looks more.... And it is just too expensive! The 660 Aprilia will be a much better buy!! Then there still are the lingering memories of MV's reliability and real ownership costs.... Mmmm. Regards!!
What the hell, the 660 Aprilia compared to this???
Sorry, but you're talking about two absolutely completely different bikes! They are in totally different categories.
You are wrong, actually MV Agustas are far better value for money than Aprilia 660. And I love Aprilias.
The Aprilia 660s are super cheap category bikes spruced up a bit and with a really well done design, they've approached from the super cheap bike category slightly upwards. The MV Rosso models are super expensive category bikes made slightly cheaper. But they still have all the features you'd expect.
For some reason the price difference is much larger in the UK than elsewhere in Europe. At least new-old-stock MV Agustas are a great buy, or very slightly used. Elsewhere the Aprilia and MV are almost identical in price which means the MV is an absolute bargain compared to the far inferior Aprilia.
Go try an MV Agusta. It might take a very long time to get used to the amazing feel and absolute immediacy of its reactions and responses, but once you get used to it you'll never accept anything else.
@@pistonburner6448 I work at a aprilia/Ktm dealer and stay away from the RS6Shitty🤮🤮🤮 we already replaced a brand new engine on a Tuono 660, underpower and overpriced… better off buying a Gen 2 RSV
@@pistonburner6448 Aprilia has better value for money... MV has not actually have a name for reliability... has it? Neither for ownership costs....
@@TheJWC56RSA Yes, MV Agustas are very reliable.And exactly those Aprilia RS660s have had reliability issues.
Why would MV Agusta ownership costs be high?
You're spewing absolute nonsense based on nothing. Do you even know what the very few typical faults MV Agustas used to have were? Do you know what fixes were done since then? I bet you have no clue about any of it.
I have 2 F4s, one with 10k on the clock and one with 3k. Neither have ever let me down ever. I also have a classic Ducati, when it comes to servicing the MVs cost around 1/3 of the Ducati (if it needs a belt service) so not expensive at all.
When people ask me about the bikes the first thing they ask me as about reliability. Maybe there were some bad ones early on? Mine are as reliable as any bike I’ve ever owned
Ooooh, that sound!
Thanks mann ❤
That thumbnail looked like a red Suzuki GSXR with a single sided swingarm 🤷♂
Handsome bike! Great review. Hmm, displacement aside, I wonder how it compares to the new Speed Triple RR?
You mean Ducati 916's frame was MV Agusta style...
What the test doesn’t tell you is the horrendous parts/serving support in the UK, the terrible build quality and poor reliability and that brake issue was exactly the same on my 2014 version, so they have done nothing about it since then. Take it from someone who spent £19k on an F3 800 Ago DON’T DO IT!
MV moved on a lot since 2014, totally different bikes now, the silver engine triple is laid to ashes now. Not perfect but miles ahead today.
@@checker3694 clearly not, that is still the same bike I purchased with some “aero wings and a tft dash added.” The bike still has the same braking issue I had which was one of a very long list of faults that I returned the bike for a full refund after 6 months of ownership.
Totally different from 8 years , may look and sound the same.
You are talking total lies. You have no clue what you're talking about. Astroturfer of another brand?
I mean you are actually spewing lies based on a totally different bike, MANY generations older than the ones on sale today, and the whole company under new ownership and after a total reworking of everything!! And even for the old bikes of that ancient generation you're not talking truthfully.
I swear companies should go after misinformation spreaders like you legally...
Really nice looking bike. Triple must be awesome
Nothing beats the roar of the triple, coming from Yamaha Tracer 900 GT.
Exhaust sound v/inlet sound ?
Husaberg 600 enduro. That for me as a rider was crayzy fun Inlet sound 😂😎
for that kind of coin, ill take the other Italian beauty- Tuono V4 Factory all day long
Yeah, true that.
Can someone pleas explain.
What is a supersport bike?
And what is a sport bike?
Lol...they're uncomfortable n fast
IMO: handlebar and footpeg positions. Supersport = R6, R1, CBR, ZX6/10R, GSXR. Sport bike = R7, RS660, Ninja1000sx, CBR650, etc. Cheers Nige
In racing the supersport class has the 600cc inline 4 bikes (and the GSX-R750) and the superbike class has 1000cc inline 4s so I think those are the best definitions. These are all very powerful and fast (120-200 BHP) and run at very high RPMs (~14,000) and have aggressive (forward-leaning) riding positions.
"Sport bike" is an umbrella term which encompasses supersports, superbikes, nakeds, and other things that are not ADVs, cruisers, or off-road/dirtbikes. Basically bikes designed to be ridden on the road only and at reasonably high speeds. The Wikipedia page seems to corroborate.
However I am no expert so I may be wrong but this is my take.
Nice review.
Where is the lovely MV Augusta badge to be seen?? With that dark carbon, looking at it from the side, it could be any generic Japanese 600 sportsbike. With the original F4, there was no mistaking it was an MV, or even the standard Rosso F3 version of this, actually. That cheapo exposed socket would also not be seen on the F4, despite this being superior electrically, rider aid wise and fueling.
Which begs the question, why not review the standard Rosso, which most are going to buy, will be easier to get, and is arguably better looking??
I'm hoping to get a 2006 or 2007 F4, this summer. It's nowhere near as refined as this, uncomfortable after 45 minutes, but immeasurably more beautiful (still the original Tamburini design) and a far, far better investment.
1st gen bikes, especially the f4 750, were built as a money no object machine. They're more stringent with money now due to debts and bankruptcies.
What happened to those pretty 90s style exhausts goodies under the riders seat ?! ahhh not the same lol
Really cool bike. Too bad it’s overpriced. Can’t justify that over a BMW S 1000RR. Niche indeed.
Thank You Almighty God very much, I will buy one for myself