MSI Ventus 2X OC RTX 3060 Ti Disassembly & Noise, Boost Clock, Overclock, and Power Limit Showcase
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Edit: The thermal pads that I said make contact with the capacitors at around 4:50 actually make contact with the VRM mosfets (as they should).
No benchmarks in this video. Performance should be as expected of an RTX 3060 Ti so go watch other 3060 Ti benchmark videos!
In this video, we'll take a look at the physical card itself, the loudness of the fans, its boost clocks in games out of the box, its power limit flexibility, and its OCing potential. Since I don't have any other 3060 Tis in hand to compare this one to, you'll just have to use this video as a reference and make a decision for yourself to see if this card is the right one for you.
Test System:
- Case: Thermaltake J21 ATX Midtower
- Case fans: 4x Asiahorse FS-9002 ARGB Fans
- CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 at 4.25GHz 1.2v
- CPU Cooler: Cryorig H5 Ultimate CPU cooler w/ included 140mm fan
- RAM: 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3000MHz CL15 (tuned to 3533MHz CL14)
- Motherboard: Asrock X470 Taichi Ultimate
- GPU: MSI Ventus 2X OC RTX 3060 Ti
- PSU: EVGA 750 G3
Timestamps:
0:00 - Teardown/disassembly start
8:30 - Noise/Sound demonstration
10:41 - Boost clock behavior during gaming
11:30 - Power limit's effect on clockspeed
13:56 - Overclocking
14:34 - Overclocking + 80% power limit
Misc info:
Cooler mounting hole dimensions: 67.5mm x 58.5mm x 67.5mm x 58.5mm from measuring with a ruler and eyeballing it from center of the screws
High Resolution Photo Album of Graphics Card PCB: imgur.com/a/ON1xNDQ - Наука та технологія
Thanks for including thermals and clock speeds! I was curious since this is one of the only models without a pass-through cooler design. Very informative.
this is some damn high-quality content right here, hope this channel grows big.
Exactly!
This card is trash, the VRAM is the worst in all the 3070s, it’s sad to see MSI cheaping out on the 3070
@@deadbush1236 it aint a 3070 tho?
great, detailed, unique video! Love the video, keep the good work up and I hope your channel grows big!
Thank you! I have this card and didn't want to take it apart just in case i need to use the warranty right away :)
How are your temps? On what resolution
@@Waifu_Channel with rtx on or very high settings max 75 degree
How are temps and frames?
80c max when pushed to 100 percent. Playing cyberpunk right now on 4k with dlss on auto and everything pretty much maxed. There is sadly no card that can handle that without dlss lol
NICE, been waiting for this
Thanks, I have the same card too, I was itchy to open it up just to see what is behind the cooler but your video sated my curiosity :)
Man, you deserve so many subs ❤️
Thank you so much man, really helpful.
Thanks a ton. It's hard to find decent sound tests
This video really helped me from identified from which one has the longest and short cable to buy a replacement fan
Just bought this card the other day, very nice upgrade from my 1660 Gtx. Great video!
Same for me. Zotac 1660 to this card.
Dk you still have it and how does it perform?
@@itzdodoever8113dk I have this card and ryzen 7x58003d my game keeps dropping fps i I think is the gpu I had a custom pc build came rzyen 5x5600 my gpu temp was high performance was somewhat ok
Thanks for the vid, nice breakdown.
Thank you for this very detailed Video!
Good stuff, I was a little disappointed I got this one but considering how rare 3060 ti are right now and this video showing off what it can really do, I should consider myself extremely blessed!
Same! For the price I got it, it gives you 95-96% of performance, and that is okay.
@@mal3k_xd i wanted the bigger ones that were three fans and RGB. Petty complaints considering how lucky i am to get a 3060 ti in this time of year.
so it gives less performance than the founder's edition?
It gives 13% more performance at 1440p than the 3060ti and is the most power efficient card on the market. I'd say it's not that bad
@@Lazlowinthehouse hows is the noise it makes? Is it really loud, or just your average noise?
love this video, i always wondered what my gpu looked like taken apart
Great job, very clear video, thank you.
Might wanna do a follow-up on this. Overclock and undervolt. Grab the MSI Afterburner 4.6.3 beta 2. You'll have access to voltage control. CTRL-F for voltage curve.
Great review! Thank you.
Thank you for this video, very helpful
Thanks for the video.
I own the same gpu at the moment.
I've had the Zotac TwinEdge before and the TwinEdge was more budget for sure.(small fans, smaller heatsink)
Now I found out there are two revisions of the MSI 3060 TI Ventus 2x.
First revision: Bigger Heat sink and pcb the same as the MSI 3070TI. Two 8-pin connectors. :D... (limited to 200W)
Second revision : Smaller heat sink. Hole in the back of the back plate/heat sink similiar to the FE.
Not sure if the hole in the back plate will make a big difference but would be nice to know how the 3070Ti cooler compares.
Ну ты молодчина! Единственный грамотный полный обзор. Единственное замечание: в afterburner нажми клавиши ctrl+f откроется кривая напряжения и частоты. И надо выбрать желаемую частоту и минимально допустимое напряжение для этой частоты. Я думаю что на 2000 МГц будет 0.95 В а при 2100мгц около 1.015В.
Nice overwiev! Thnx.
dude i love your ESD protection ;)
Good work. Thanks for good job. Now i can get my MSI 3070 V. 2x to work ;)
Perfect contestant for the case fan on gpu mod
I was fortunate to buying this last year. I believe the thermal paste was the cause of being extremely hot over 98% usage when loading up Cyberpunk 2077 or Destiny 2. Unfortunately, this was the low entry card for the custom PC that was built during 2020. I had an AMD video card but the drivers were not very good. I will probably aim for an RTX 3070.
Thank for the detailed review of this card.
I am looking to upgrade my GTX 950 for this card. Do you think it would run very hot in an ITX case (Silverstone SG13)? And does undervolting the GPU alittle bit might affect it negatively in anyway?
Dude thank you, I know what in the inside now.
Hey. I was ondering how your memory temps are, and if repasting the gpu netted you any improvement in cooling performance?. I have the exact same card and ive been shy to take it apart and test for myself, since i dont want to void the warranty.
Do you get weird rattling sound at 95+% fan speed? If so, any way to fix this? I don't think it's the fans being defective because both of my fans cause this in isolation. Suspecting the plastic casing around them doing something funky...
thanks for uploading
So is it worth paying more $ on a better implemented cooler? I'm not really experienced when it comes to GPU's but I do want to upgrade my 1660 Super to a RTX 3060 TI and there are a lot of options available but some of them are a bit over my budget. Is it worth getting the MSI Ventus version? The next one on the list would be Gigabyte OC Pro version which has 3 fans. Are there any limitations compared to other manufacturers? I'm not going to bother with OC
hola amigo quisiera preguntarte qué medida son los termal pads de esta gpu?
Hi bro, Thanks for the video! What is the size for the thermalpads?
Please do measure the thermal pas thickness with digital vernier caliper for future videos. It really helps. Thanks
So my options are this one vs a palit dual right now being 20 euros more expensive. Do you think it's worth it.
what's the thickness of thermal pad msi ventus 3060 ti have or needs?
Do the heatpipes make proper contact with the memory modules on the bottom of the card cause what I can tell it doesn't make contact at all or just half way
Hey, thanks for the nice review, did you by any chance check the max power draw on this card?
My card maxes at 200w with the GPU pulling 190
I have the same card..but i m confused, why others card have 8 + 6 pin connector..but mine have only 8x1 pin connector..please if you can explain the disfferent
One doubt : is there anyway we can remove or add oil to the backside of fans cause mine is making too much noise.
Some small things. The small heatsink on the vrm's connecting to the main heatsink straigth on one thermal pad , and the another thermal pad to the coils , nothing on the capacitors , for what ,that is high grade high temperature EL caps.....
another, when you decrase the power limit click out the temp and power limit locking , if your temp limit decrease with the power limit of course your boost clock going down , not boosting just until the target temp limit so like this you limiting the power and the temp headroom as well for the boost, when limiting the power target and livit the temp limit on highest what is "comfortable" get higher boost with limited power and lower effective temps , not too much the differnece but have a little and with some card bigger, just try out.
So if you want to RGB this GPU it is possible to just remove the plastic fan shroud without removing the entire heatsink from board it self? It seems so after looking your video.
I got this one this year, not so long ago, I come from an RTX 2070 super mini Zotac, do you know if by getting rid of the plastic back plate I can reduce some degrees?
When I disassemble this can I spray paint it? If so what kind of spray paint do I need?
cool vid! can you add a vid on how to assemble it back? planning to clean mine so just need it for reference.
Watch the video in reverse lol
hello, what is the size of the thermal pad please?
To be able to change them .
Anyone know if the Kraken G12 kit would fit on the EVGA 3060 TI? I know I had to cut some parts of the mounting brackets for it to fit on my old RTX 2060…
friend would like to know if the cover behind the plate is metal? because this I know q helps in dissipation, thanks thanks.
we need u back brooooooooooooooo
Hello, what is the size of the thermal pads in 3060ti msi ventus x2? i cant find this data. thanks
How thick is the thermalpad on memory?
On my MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti, which is only 10 months old, I never had a problem with noise until I moved it to my new case. In the old case, a Corsair 250D, it was mounted vertically. However, in the new case, the GPU was mounted in the more typical horizontal mount in a Fractal North case. Unfortunately, when the GPU fans reached high RPM, they started to make a rather irritating noise like minor bearing issues. To test if the angle of the card affected it, I tried tilting the computer, and sure enough, the fan noise went away. Thus, my solution was to buy a Fractal Flex 2 vertical GPU mount for the card. That fixed the noise problem.
Hi, can you tell me please the thickness of the thermal pads of this card? thanks
do you know where the air enters and leaves? I really need it and I can't find it
so what size of thermal pads is used in this card?i wnat to change mine
You wouldnt have to know a place to get those little fan screws and a few extra? I did a deshroud mod and one of the little suckers "ripped" or what it is called
I managed to get one of this exact one, I'd just like to know. Is using the daisy chained 6+2 pin ok, or do I definitely have to use 2 separate 8 pin connectors?
I have a 750W PSU
Should be fine as that's the cable setup I used to test the card with an EVGA 750 G3
What size are the thermal pads? I'm looking to replace mine and thermal paste and needing to know so I can order ahead of time.
was you able to know what kind of thermal pads there?
The secret for this card is doing undervolt who wants a really good balance silence/temperature, did it in mine and find a nice spot running at 1950 MHz/0.925V reaching only 70ºC on 100% testing in extreme internal climate conditions (32ºC here in the summer without AC). In normal use and gaming in a mild climate temperature is even less.
Hello, I am choosing between MSI Ventus 2X OC RTX 3060 Ti and RTX 3070 KFA2. Does it make sense to pay $240 for an RTX 3070?
please tell me the exact thickness of the thermal pads!! they are not standard 2.25 and 2.75 there ??
is that noise like NORMAL? or not because it happens same to me
Cual es la medida de los pads termicos de esta grafica ?
Para poner unos nuevos
I’m using a ryzen 5 3600 with this GPU in the video and I managed to get +200 core clock and +1000 memory clock And max temp of 71 C. Ran 3D mark benchmark before the tweaks I got on average around10600 score after tweaks I got 11109 score. Would that be worth it ? because I’m worried these overlocks can damage GPU and other components.
What is the thermal pads thickness?
what was the size of the thermal pads, did you replace them?
Hello everyone, could someone tell me, how thick are the Thermal Pads that appear in the video? Thank you
Thank you for this
Mine came with a broken heatsink but don’t wanna send it in and rather just find a replacement heatsinc anyone know where I can find one
Is this pcb the same as the FE? For waterblock comparability purposes
Hi, which of those two connectors power the front LED?
How thick are the thermal pads would you say? Is there anywhere you can lookup the thickness of thermal pads by gpu? I am looking to replace my thermal pads on my gpu and I want to know which thickness to use
I do not have this card anymore, but if I had to say, I think it was 2mm thickness
that was a quality video
I have this same GPU and haven't really gotten to OC it yet, nice to see that it can get to 2100mhz. Out of the box it was performing in like the 35rd percentile of userbenchmark, but with just a random +30core +200mem it jumped up to 45th percentile, so OC'ing it further should be good!
Just did a +150 +600 and din't feel like going further for now, but compared to stock it got me from 126% userbenchmark score to 135% (about 35rd percentile and now 76th percentile)
@@thelazyduck9370 do you know any way to unlock the Power Limit?
@@migueldias1873 No you'd probably have to do custom vbios which complicates a lot of things, but it seems to OC well even without a higher limit. Not sure how gaming performance is affected by the OC though
I've been running mine at a stunning +125 +1000(!)
Completely stable for the last month.
Cyberpunk holds a flat 2100Mhz boost at ~67C after an hour playing.
This is for sure a 3070 binned for cores.
The Samsung memory is still 16Gbit.
You just need to cool it properly.
@@kylefraser8612 I got mine to run at +190 +1300 in some benchmarks lmao! I settled for +160 +1150 for daily use though. Not sure how it does this with a locked 200W limit lol
Is the fan model and size of rtx 3060 the same as this 3060 ti?
It would be interesting to see the temperature if you don't put back the plastic back cover...
I’m not sure what’s going on with mine, I bought it today and playing games at 1440p medium graphics and the fans are going to take off it seems and then all of a sudden a grinding noise coming from it! And the temperature goes right up to 87c. At this point I want to stick my 1660 back in it
Just a question, I own the same card and the right fan is making bearing noise at 95% use and above. Is it possible to take the fan out and lubricate it somehow???
Curious about this, too
Want to know put some thermal pad on the back of the PCB will help the memory temp?
because my Ventus 2X V1 Hot spot is up to ~90C at some GPU dependent games, just want to see can bring down the temp down or not
and have ways to take out the backplate without Disassemble the heatsink? (without crushing the warranty)
hey man i just got the gpu and im also seeing some rad temps. if i let it it will easily reach 85 to 90 degrees. i dont have air condition so it really turns my room into a sauna. did you find a way to reduce the temps? i was hoping changing the thermal paste would do the trick...
@@abusufyian8597 The core temp is fine but the hot spot temp is quite high, if you like me don't like to see any high temp🤣, you can try undervolt it, that way the GPU will use less power and lower temp(just search GPU undervolt on UA-cam and you will find how to do it)
Also, I don't have GPU already, I sell it to my friend long time ago and upgrade to RTX 3080, so don't know much about long time use but I think it should be totally fine
do you know if the termal pads are 3mm?
Nice video, I want the gigabyte OC version because I like the pass through cooler but I'd probably buy this card if it was in stock.
pass through cooler is what was preventing me to buy this GPU in the first place,you will need fully disassemble GPU every 6 months because dust goes directly on chip and can easy make electric short circuit.anyway i was lucky to buy last one for 450 euro in first day of sale.gonna sell this crap when better GPUs go on sale
@@glock888 Dust goes directly on chip? bro what you smoking its covered with heatsink and thermalpaste
@@Jackuss19 GPU chip is only that covered,all other part of board is not.i had 5 years old 1060,board completely sealed with heatsink(no holes) no dust goes inside.i never needed to clean it and worry about short circuit
@@glock888 dust will sooner of later make their way into the card
just clean your house more often and your PC.
Also do you have any metallicparticles dust in your house? regular dust won't short your gpu.
I have the original version of this card. But 2 issues. 1. Idle watt usage of 45-50 watts Even when just using 1 monitor. And 2. Completely locked down bios. No oc and No fan curve tuning. I AM very confused if i got a defektive card. I got No stabilty issues or Any issues orther than the 2 metioned, card Even runs relatively cool. But power is expensive here and I hate that high watts usage in idle ..
So would you recommend to use your overclock and lower the Power Limit? This looks quite interesting here! Would love to lower the temps and increase the performance. :D
You can use my settings as a reference point, but you should always test for stability. I recommend using the voltage/frequency curve in MSI afterburner for a bit more granular control
Don't understand noise scale.
It shows 54 decibels at the bottom and louder it gets it rises to... something.
I wonder it it's louder than boxed CPU cooler of Ryzen 5 5500 which is VERY loud.
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Could you please share the measurement for hole positioning ? I wonder this for water cooling.
67.5mm x 58.5mm x 67.5mm x 58.5mm from measuring with a ruler and eyeballing it from center of the screws. I don't have the tools necessary for exact measurement so just keep that in mind
@@techiverse6851 Thank you so much.
My fan make tiny vibrating noise at low speed. Kind wanna replace them with noctua fan
What's the thikness of all thermal pads please?
Hello, whats the size of thermal pads ? 2mm ?
that moment when i try hear how loud is rtx 3060ti but in the bacgkground i hear my shit card xD
i managed to replace my 3070 fan myself thanks to this video
I just got the second version of this card and already broke the one of the fans! D; Does anyone know where to buy a replacement one? Because when I search the model name that shows here on the video "pld10010s12hh" it shows only two fans with one cable helpz
That's unfortunate! You could try using these as replacements: www.gpufanreplacement.com/collections/msi-graphics-card-fan-replacements/products/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-gaming-x-fan-replacement
They're under a slightly different model number, but they're the same size, have the same current rating of 0.4A, and have the required connectors. Hopefully the wires aren't too long or too short.
teardown of my dream...
But how do you take it out of the PC safely?
Is this the model with the weird non metal backplate?
Apparently there now is a 3060 TI Ventus 2x OCV1 model which is slightly different.
@@null643 Well I'm no expert but it seems to have one 8 pin connector instead of two and cost less
@@null643 In short, the first version used the pcb and cooler design from the 3070 Ventus 2x. The 'V1' version has a reworked pcb with the single 8-pin power adapter and a thinner heatsink (2 slot card vs ~2.5 slot card).
@@alexanderzook84 Soooo which one is better the first version or the v1 version?
@@iclapmarasovcheeks6423 i feel like they nerfed the card somehow with the new revision. The first version had a thicker heatsink, so better cooling, and having 2 8 pin connectors you could flash the gaming x trio bios and gain some extra power.
@@seby6368 Yeah so with the OCV1 you wouldn't be able to flash the bios simply because it wouldn't be able to draw enough power anyway right?
INCREDIBLE. Can you try this with ZOTAC Twin Edge OC/Non oc variant if possible?
If I can get my hands on one sure haha, but it is unlikely because I don't have special access to these cards
@@techiverse6851 Totally get it. Nice in depth overview. Zotac goes into the 80s XD
I have the 3x, i wonder if they use the same pcb 🤔
So did you notice any improvement by repasting the card? I'm planning to deshroud mine, but wonder if it's worth taking the heatsink off while I'm removing the fans.
Also I have had a ton of success flashing the MSI 3060 Ti Gaming X Trio bios to this card, as it has a slightly better cooler (designed for 3070, 240 W power limit) and 2 8-pin connectors (to go past stock 200w and 225w pci+1 8pin limits) to push up to 240-250w board power limit.
@@alexanderzook84 I just got this card and this sounds like something I want to try, would you mind pointing me in the right direction where I can get the bios for X Trio and how to flash it? I haven't done it before & realize I should exercise caution but I want to give it a go.
I know the original version of the x2 Ventus (not the V1) has 2-8 pin connectors so I'm guessing flashing the X Trio bios gives some extra OC headroom that can be fully utilized because of the higher wattage limit. Have you also tried undervolting your card to make it run quieter / cooler?
Sorry, lots to unpack here but I saw you answered some other comments here & you seem quite knowledgeable. Thanks so much! 😊
No improvements with Arctic MX-4 at least, but it is from a 2019 tube. That's interesting information! Unfortunately I think this card hits its thermal limit before any power limit so unless it gets some custom cooling, I don't think it's worth flashing another BIOS onto it
Hi friend
what size are the thermal pads