Green Book: History vs. Hollywood

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  • @carolyncarey4268
    @carolyncarey4268 4 роки тому +1166

    Virgo’s performance was superb, absolutely Oscar worthy

    • @sadem1045
      @sadem1045 4 роки тому +14

      Perhaps you're right about Virgo, but the story was almost completely fictionalized.

    • @TampaJohn
      @TampaJohn 4 роки тому +37

      Unfortunately, he’s not allowed to win anymore. Hollywood got WOKE!

    • @timothymcmanimon8700
      @timothymcmanimon8700 4 роки тому +41

      *viggo

    • @Marcus_405
      @Marcus_405 3 роки тому +11

      The king of Gondor is truly amazing

    • @starguhl
      @starguhl 3 роки тому +7

      @@TampaJohn why do you say that

  • @WillScarlet16
    @WillScarlet16 4 роки тому +1656

    Tony Vallelonga's son swears the scenes of his father in this movie are true.
    However, he also admits his father was one of the biggest bullshitters in history.

    • @gretchenmurphy4989
      @gretchenmurphy4989 4 роки тому +55

      I enjoyed the movie and your comments about it. Thank you for emphasizing the truth vs. fiction facts concerning the movie. To me it was easy to see the change of racism in Tonylip which was based on understanding Mr. Shirley's gifted life. It will always be one of my favorite films

    • @duffharris9295
      @duffharris9295 3 роки тому +7

      @Jayden Chris Wow amazing! I was totally not paid to comment on random videos about bullshit products.

    • @lewspeedwagon6330
      @lewspeedwagon6330 3 роки тому +9

      ...I think as a young man, in early 50s, my father went through a "Tony", life changing experience...

    • @joonaslehtonen7965
      @joonaslehtonen7965 3 роки тому +64

      I have heard audio recordings of Shirley describing how he 100% trusted his life in the hands of Tony, how he teached him to speak english because "Lip was one of those Lower East Side Italians who had jaw of a bulldog", how Lip saved him in that bar from armed locals (depicted in the movie) and other things.

    • @WillScarlet16
      @WillScarlet16 3 роки тому +1

      @@joonaslehtonen7965 Still doesn't prove everything in this movie is accurate.

  • @mike1950gm
    @mike1950gm 4 роки тому +149

    Both Don and Tony were sooo different yet very likable , high class and salt of the earth. A movie I will see again !

    • @Skysdalimit247
      @Skysdalimit247 2 роки тому

      I wouldn't call Tony likable in totality. Tony was racist! He only changed his mind after an occurrence with one black person, which didn't change behaviors and fertility because he still inserted his micro aggressions on others!

  • @robyncarlson8730
    @robyncarlson8730 4 роки тому +212

    This movie was so good that I completely forgot about the apple pie I had baking in the oven

    • @asabifatosin1150
      @asabifatosin1150 3 роки тому +3

      Timers are everything! @Robyn Carlson

    • @metoo9360
      @metoo9360 2 роки тому +4

      I loved the movie, too.
      Also, I hope you took your pie out of the oven by now! 🙂

    • @DreamRain001
      @DreamRain001 6 місяців тому +1

      Mmmm PIE 😋..🤣🤣🤣

  • @erictaht2227
    @erictaht2227 5 років тому +1149

    Here is a History vs. Hollywood in the movie in regards to The Don Shirley Trio. I know the trio was not a focal point of the movie but there were scenes in the movie that had interaction with the trio and thought it would be interesting to comment. The movie shows that the cello player's name in the trio was "Oleg" (played by Dimiter Marinov) and that he was Russian. The fact is that the cello player's real name is Juri Taht and he is not Russian but Estonian. He does not even speak Russian. I know this because he is my Uncle. My father was his youngest brother. Also, according to my Uncle, he never saw Shirley drink alcohol after performances.

    • @jaybee3055
      @jaybee3055 5 років тому +255

      So did ur uncle really snitch to dr Shirley about tony lip stealing that rock? Lol

    • @othonpedro2870
      @othonpedro2870 5 років тому +13

      Eric thank you for sharing

    • @novas001
      @novas001 5 років тому +87

      In the movie, he didn't drink around the 2 other band members. Plus, he was staying at the hotels where only the African American's would stay. That's when he would rink. How would your uncle know this, if he wasn't staying at the same hotel, etc?

    • @yannickleroux3212
      @yannickleroux3212 5 років тому +8

      Eric Taht is You’re uncle still alive?

    • @erictaht2227
      @erictaht2227 5 років тому +77

      @@yannickleroux3212 Yes. He is currently living in Estonia and has become a minor celebrity since the movie come out. He is the last surviving member of the Don Shirley Trio. Here is a link to an article that was written in Estonia by his Daughter in Law. You can use Google Translate to read the article. There is a current picture of him with the cello he played during his time with Shirley. tartu.postimees.ee/6538200/oscari-filmi-tsellisti-prototuup-juri-taht-roheline-raamat-voimendab-rassilist-eristamist?fbclid=IwAR1k3SGh0zlPzh4YvcGYfcTKPQGO5tnUR8AEr5W2VngjCQGgaA5MGuqf9uk

  • @buzzlaw
    @buzzlaw 5 років тому +57

    That musical piece at the end was perfect

  • @kathymichael7224
    @kathymichael7224 5 років тому +688

    Very interesting! Thanks! I was expecting the movie to be about the actual Green Book as I remember not being able to stop at certain places as my family while we traveled when I was a child. When I went to see the movie, as soon as "Lip" said he was looking for "Dr. Shirley" then another character called his whole name, a light of recognition went off in my head from my childhood. My mother played Don Shirley's music on many Saturday mornings. When I was in high school, he played for a benefit for our Saturday art classes which were sponsored by the Links. It was wonderful to actually see him play music I'd heard for years. Don Shirley was fantastic! The movie was as well!

    • @josephoaks4001
      @josephoaks4001 5 років тому +5

      Very interesting! This began in 1962, the year I graduated....

    • @josephoaks4001
      @josephoaks4001 5 років тому +3

      We have to see it.....

    • @veriteri32
      @veriteri32 5 років тому +6

      I'm sorry that happened to you and your family. It's all about control

    • @yugiuhij989
      @yugiuhij989 5 років тому +3

      That's pretty damn cool.

    • @SLAYERSWINE1
      @SLAYERSWINE1 4 роки тому +5

      Kathy Michael: Thank you for sharing your personal story.👍✌🤘😷🤘

  • @adamsad4891
    @adamsad4891 3 роки тому +84

    Aragon to Tony Lip.. His performance is unbelievable

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 Місяць тому

      Aragorn*. And how is this unbelievable? He's a professional actor.

  • @js8213
    @js8213 4 роки тому +28

    Tonight I seen the play. The play was actually focused more on the purpose of the green book and its value. It's a very informative play. I'm so glad I took the time to see it

  • @bobsrandomchannel7589
    @bobsrandomchannel7589 Місяць тому +6

    Viggo is such a BRILLIANT actor,underrated big time

  • @CorpeningMedia
    @CorpeningMedia 4 роки тому +22

    “Unless they’re making a documentary, filmmakers are history’s interpreters, not its chroniclers. Green Book interprets the sea of historical events to reveal a truth relevant to today: Resist those who would tell you to know your place.” -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, from an essay in The Hollywood Reporter

  • @MurrayMD
    @MurrayMD 5 років тому +19

    It's great to see these kinds of stories coming out of Hollywood. This one seems to have been pretty close to events as they happened and it's fascinating to see the responses it evokes.

  • @o2bnaustin
    @o2bnaustin 5 років тому +17

    • In case you're wondering....here's the unnamed, un-credited song that supported the mood flow throughout scene transitions of the 2019 Oscar winner for Best Picture, "Green Book."
    • For the life of me, I don't know why it was not ID'ed or credited. Growing up in 1955, it was my favorite chill-out relief that was captured on one side of a single 45-RPM record. If you watched "Green Book," you'll immediately recognize it..."Lost Dreams," written and recorded by the Ernie Freeman, a Pop, R&B, and Jazz pianist (not to be confused with the film's main character, Don Shirley, an African-American classical and jazz pianist and composer).
    • My take of the movie: Excellent, well-deserving of the Oscar, great acting, and great soundtrack...with exception of not crediting "Lost Dreams" and Ernie Freeman and co-composer, Irving Ashby.
    ua-cam.com/video/pjc6oOVPSTg/v-deo.html

  • @HistoryvsHollywoodOfficial
    @HistoryvsHollywoodOfficial  5 років тому

    If you enjoyed 'Green Book', check out our research into 'The Best of Enemies': www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/best-of-enemies/

  • @maureentuohy8672
    @maureentuohy8672 5 років тому +49

    I hope no one expects real history and Hollywood movies to be exact? I watched “Green Book” last weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. Especially Vigo Mortensen’s performance. I’m first generation Sicilian l’m telling you he was awesome. It felt like watching my Uncles talking to their “Gumbas”! Vigo’s performance made the movie for me.

    • @kateichacker3145
      @kateichacker3145 5 років тому +1

      Good for Viggo, but this is a "white savior" b.s. movie. Oh, look at the Italian guy show the poor black man how to eat fried chicken, or HOW TO PLAY HIS OWN MUSIC. Smh.

    • @fruitcake7067
      @fruitcake7067 5 років тому +28

      @@kateichacker3145 Umm... no? The fried chicken bit is a lighthearted scene to showcase their developing friendship, the "play his own music" bit is intended to come off as ignorant because Tony is ignorant. He develops throughout the movie but he's still a human being on a journey to become someone better. The people who call this a "white savior" movie have a fundamental misunderstanding of the role that race plays in this film. Yes, the plot and theme are racially driven, but race plays a much smaller part in the interactions between Tony and Shirley, the more prominent influence on behaviors being class. Shirley teaches Tony to write and enunciate because he's educated and refined; Tony teaches Shirley to eat with his hands and throw bones out of the window because he's blue collar and relaxed. Most importantly, Shirley is not the only one being "saved", both Tony and Shirley become better people for knowing one another.

    • @kateichacker3145
      @kateichacker3145 5 років тому

      Go look up how Shirley's actual family feels about this film, then come back to me with your facile bullshit.

    • @farshimelt
      @farshimelt 4 роки тому +5

      @@kateichacker3145 It's a movie, how Shirley's family "feels" about it is irrelevant.

    • @kateichacker3145
      @kateichacker3145 4 роки тому +2

      @@farshimelt no, it isn't. If a movie character is based on a real person, that person's family has every right to be offended, if the portrayal is inaccurate.

  • @The-ADHD-Exec
    @The-ADHD-Exec 4 роки тому +134

    This movie was absolutely brilliant! Definitely in my top 10!

  • @johnconnor210
    @johnconnor210 5 років тому +82

    I just saw the film and it was incredible. I'm glad things like this exist to see what happened in real life vs film.

  • @ytcarol
    @ytcarol 4 роки тому +21

    This is so well edited and presented. I greatly appreciate your intelligent and insightful background to these men's lives. Thank you for your efforts in these vids.

  • @audreybowles6357
    @audreybowles6357 2 роки тому +6

    What a wonderful documentary. Thank you for this take on American History and Friendship.

  • @PatrickByrne-e5v
    @PatrickByrne-e5v 22 дні тому +1

    This is really good dude. Great job- you mispronounced some things but overall really appreciate this one. Subscribed.

  • @gullybop1695
    @gullybop1695 4 роки тому +162

    My new favorite movie. Love, love, loved it. Tony's wife was so pretty.

    • @samanthadelgado8471
      @samanthadelgado8471 4 роки тому +1

      I think she’s from freaks and geeks

    • @snowstorm9172
      @snowstorm9172 4 роки тому +4

      Fried chicken

    • @evanextreme6157
      @evanextreme6157 4 роки тому +1

      I think we all know what they move their hand too...
      Assume what I mean, whoever gets it correct I will call out and edit this to that answer

    • @gullybop1695
      @gullybop1695 4 роки тому

      @@evanextreme6157 I don't have the time to do that for I am a very busy man.

    • @evanextreme6157
      @evanextreme6157 4 роки тому +1

      GullyBop If you had the time to type that down, not that busy :/

  • @andrewmorales5485
    @andrewmorales5485 2 роки тому +5

    It was about two different guys coming from different worlds who became very good friends for many years

  • @arctos49
    @arctos49 5 років тому +48

    I am a real fan of Viggo Mortenson as he chooses roles because they genuinely interest him rather than for the money or the "fame". It was his son who had to talk him into taking the "Lord of the Rings" role of Aragorn. My only complaint with this video is that the presenter keeps mispronouncing his name. "Mortensen" is pronounced with the emphasis on the first syllable not the second.

    • @ANGELiki1992
      @ANGELiki1992 2 роки тому +2

      OH MY GOD HE'S ARAGORN?! That's why I kept finding him extremely attractive!! (it's because he's extremely attractive)

    • @ericb8241
      @ericb8241 2 роки тому +1

      People pronounce words differently? No way!

    • @justinjackson7688
      @justinjackson7688 2 роки тому

      Its leviOsa, not leviosAH

    • @cengizc2456
      @cengizc2456 Рік тому

      Are you sure you are a fan? If I was a fan, I would make sure to write his name correctly, lol. 🙂

  • @mikekennedy5470
    @mikekennedy5470 4 роки тому +27

    One of the best movies I have ever seen in 57 years...top 10 for sure .

  • @Luannnelson547
    @Luannnelson547 5 років тому +197

    Concerto is an Italian word and is pronounced “con-CHAIR-to.” It’s not just “concert” with an “o” tacked on.

    • @ithinknot2694
      @ithinknot2694 5 років тому +5

      drives me nuts when they mis - pronounce Porsche too . ugh

    • @sORrYiMLaTe_wHAtdiDiMisS
      @sORrYiMLaTe_wHAtdiDiMisS 5 років тому +2

      Concherto

    • @caseylevins9900
      @caseylevins9900 5 років тому +12

      Tameka P and it drives me nuts when Porsche is misspelled....just saying.

    • @RumbleFish69
      @RumbleFish69 5 років тому +7

      Never mind the fact that he's also butchers g the hell out of Viggo Mortensen's name! It's quite distracting.

    • @robertomoi2044
      @robertomoi2044 5 років тому +1

      You're wrong. It's pronounced concherto. Dont be a clever dick.

  • @lavernepuller3080
    @lavernepuller3080 4 роки тому +19

    I loved this movie when I saw it in the theater last year, it's well worth adding to your collection!

  • @lisairvin6535
    @lisairvin6535 5 років тому +140

    I just watched the movie..."Green Book". It was amazing!!! I am about to watch it again.

    • @marzplayz2709
      @marzplayz2709 4 роки тому +3

      Same, made me cry too

    • @uno3863
      @uno3863 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, I've watched it several times, never gets boring 😊

    • @yafettuwanakotta8929
      @yafettuwanakotta8929 2 роки тому +3

      @@marzplayz2709 i was holding my tears.. Till dolores hug him and said thank u about the letter.. 🤣

  • @jjs490
    @jjs490 3 роки тому +10

    Great story about racism and how to people overcame it and came together but the real reason I'm here is Viggo Mortensen's unbelievable performance , what an actor! Mashallah Ali did a fantastic job as well.

  • @africanchild4525
    @africanchild4525 5 років тому +14

    I didn't know the history of this man because I was born and raised in Africa but for my love of American movies I came across the movie and I fell in love with the story so I had to google him and learned more about him. Thanks for the information you provided for us.

  • @32mybelle
    @32mybelle 5 років тому +51

    Loved this movie. It definitely deserved best picture. Dr. Shirley was a brilliant and talented man.

  • @Margaret1448
    @Margaret1448 5 років тому +43

    Re: this remark: "It must have been difficult for Shirley, living above the very stage that the color of his skin had kept him from performing on."
    NO! It was the racism of those who operated the venue which would not permit this fine musician from playing classical piano in Carnegie Hall. His skin is just fine and quite blameless!

    • @ede5302
      @ede5302 5 років тому +1

      Very well said Margaret

    • @Checkmate1138
      @Checkmate1138 4 роки тому +5

      Of course, that's what he meant.

    • @3myway
      @3myway 4 роки тому

      It was just the times honey. Try not to take it personal

    • @virginiabrowning4323
      @virginiabrowning4323 4 роки тому +1

      @@3myway D: and try not to take it personal when someone has taken the time to shift the wording in a subtle but important way that doesn't focus on the skin color as a problem, but on the actual source of the problem. Timely to do this, as we whites need to realize our people have very often been the problem, not the ones who had to grow up throwing off shame constantly as if THEIR color was a problem. Words frame how we think and feel about things. Something that may seem unimportant to you may in fact be more important than you can at first imagine.

    • @3myway
      @3myway 4 роки тому

      Biden loves you

  • @kugellehr
    @kugellehr 5 років тому +63

    Carmine Lupertazzi was Tony Lip?!?!?!

  • @nitetimejohnson
    @nitetimejohnson 5 років тому +19

    Don use to sing in Black churches as a kid. If that is so they feed him. Most likely chicken dinners, etc. Lip did not introduce him to fried chicken.

    • @ede5302
      @ede5302 5 років тому

      Can priests and pastors make fried chicken?

    • @farshimelt
      @farshimelt 4 роки тому

      @@ede5302 Priests and Pastors don't do the cooking, that is done by the women of the congregation, Y'all.

  • @gennarino546
    @gennarino546 10 місяців тому +2

    Moved me to tears this film. Just awesome

  • @saxmanb777
    @saxmanb777 5 років тому +4

    So Don Shirley was living in Carnegie Hall when I performed there in 1998. Interesting. Also the diner and shower scene were done in New Orleans at Clover Grill and the New Orleans Athletic Club.

    • @LiveINyourGood54
      @LiveINyourGood54 5 років тому

      You know how to get to Carnegie Hall??????????????????? Practice! :))

  • @Lizerator
    @Lizerator Місяць тому +1

    First time watcher, great channel

  • @LynJegher
    @LynJegher 5 років тому +14

    I totally loved it!!!! Such a great Story, beautifully Acted, and the Soundtrack fit very smoothly!!!!

  • @altonjefferson2862
    @altonjefferson2862 4 роки тому +25

    This is a great movie. I love it. I learn history with this movie. I have never heard of Donald Shirley and the Green Book.

  • @baseballman74
    @baseballman74 3 роки тому +15

    It was an awesome movie! It was a hidden jam for me! Stellar performances by all the actors in the movie!

  • @jerseyinsd
    @jerseyinsd 4 роки тому +3

    the image of the copacaba at 0:29 is NOT the one "tony lip" worked, which was at 10 east 60th st. the image is its location since 2011, at 268 west 47th st.

    • @nuqwestr
      @nuqwestr 3 роки тому

      Thanks for that, history becomes distorted and lost by factual errors like that image, but few appreciated and understand the correction.

  • @shareebrown727
    @shareebrown727 4 роки тому +133

    Damn shame a "Green Book" even needed to be created.

    • @maxstone9780
      @maxstone9780 4 роки тому +2

      Sharee Brown I hear you. Great point. When were “all things being equal?”

    • @peggystoutemorin4529
      @peggystoutemorin4529 4 роки тому +4

      A shame, but not a surprise.

    • @bennyrodriguez8788
      @bennyrodriguez8788 4 роки тому

      Read the book slavery by another name “Green Book” was the least racist thing Hollywood was willing to include in that movie

    • @rickyray2794
      @rickyray2794 4 роки тому +1

      @Danielle Jaeger There are social classes, but its about money not race.

    • @humanchannel7825
      @humanchannel7825 3 роки тому +1

      @@rickyray2794 maybe now but it didn’t use to be. Economic segregation followed racial segregation.

  • @newjerseylion4804
    @newjerseylion4804 5 років тому +33

    I didn’t know what a green book was.

  • @santinodellacroce2079
    @santinodellacroce2079 2 роки тому +3

    when a man can forgive those who hate him and still be civil is what we should strive to achieve

  • @bowerbird7463
    @bowerbird7463 Рік тому +16

    A wonderful job, of relating this musical genius’s life. Like Nina Simone, they were very suppressed as performers. Congratulations of properly presenting Don Shirley’s life

  • @098anne
    @098anne 5 років тому +178

    Hmm. Why can’t the narrator pronounce words correctly?

    • @TheloniousCube
      @TheloniousCube 5 років тому +10

      Con-CHAIR-to, not Con-SERT-o...and Viggo M....?

    • @tinyb69
      @tinyb69 5 років тому +27

      Made this nearly unwatchable. It's not as if it was a language barrier issue, more like a lack of research, issue. Seriously, who doesn't know how to pronounce Carnegie Hall?

    • @moonharp
      @moonharp 5 років тому +1

      Srsly... *smh*

    • @constancekreese4921
      @constancekreese4921 5 років тому +3

      Autism?

    • @ellamone9998
      @ellamone9998 5 років тому +10

      Why do people have to over stress over such small things that's what I'd like to know. Just enjoy your movies and clips. Enjoy life without over thinking every little detail. sheesh. You'll be happier that way :)

  • @ms.sharon.262
    @ms.sharon.262 5 років тому +18

    Loved this movie, couldn’t stop watching the interaction between two characters. They were both changed by their experiences and time together. Didn’t think he was a homosexual, as they portrayed in the movie. I was lucky to see it twice. Loved it.

    • @tdonovan4735
      @tdonovan4735 5 років тому +5

      He was a homosexual - as portrayed in the movie

  • @MassiveSuccessVids
    @MassiveSuccessVids 5 років тому +12

    Saw movie yesterday so this is great info for filmmakers in particular.
    Thank you, whoever produced this video.

  • @winstonmiller9649
    @winstonmiller9649 5 років тому +2

    Very good. It made me think of the phrase don't judge me until you "walk in my shoes." But in this case it was like until you walk beside me, and see my life!! 👍🏽💕💕

  • @pringleschapman7165
    @pringleschapman7165 5 років тому +9

    I order KFC delivery straight away after i watched the Kentucky Fried chicken scene ....lol

    • @LiveINyourGood54
      @LiveINyourGood54 5 років тому +1

      In the TV show Little House on the Prairie, Michael Landon ordered KFC to use as the Ingalls ate fried chicken on the show. (Dinty Moore Beef Stew for the Beef Stew.)

    • @magnumpi8097
      @magnumpi8097 11 місяців тому

      ​@@LiveINyourGood54Michael's daughter is on Yellowstone as Teeter the ranch wrangler.

  • @daveyboy_
    @daveyboy_ 5 років тому +4

    rite away at 1:27 he mentions the condensing of time. When doing a " based on a true story" . That is always the case and its a fact that you just have to go with.

  • @Ravenpicks
    @Ravenpicks 5 років тому +40

    This movie was serious, but also entertaining. Thanks for the facts.

  • @ronaldpetrin5823
    @ronaldpetrin5823 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite movies of all time, so many special moments. I can relate to Tony, this is a classic in my book.

  • @rolandcuthbert784
    @rolandcuthbert784 2 роки тому +4

    We really need a movie on Victor Hugo Green. This movie was great on its own. But I thought I was going to learn more about the Green Book and its origins.

  • @cap6159
    @cap6159 13 днів тому

    I can't believe how emotional I get from this movie. I was born in 1961 and lived throughout this era of time. No wonder why it brings tears to my eye's

  • @cuongbui9708
    @cuongbui9708 5 років тому +78

    Tony lip is Carmine Lupratazzi? That blew my mind

    • @tjclt250r
      @tjclt250r 5 років тому +4

      as soon as I heard that it brought be back to that scene in the golf course when he dies with egg salad coming out his mouth

    • @sebastianpye9328
      @sebastianpye9328 5 років тому +6

      Brings me back to "yeah, again with the money! so either name a price, or get the fuck over it!"

    • @JohnDoe-vz7bn
      @JohnDoe-vz7bn 5 років тому

      cuong bui he also is an extra In the first godfather

    • @dominickjustave3558
      @dominickjustave3558 5 років тому +1

      Same here

    • @buckshotcheney1252
      @buckshotcheney1252 5 років тому +7

      I think back to Uncle June saying "he's a slippery fuck isn't he, with those big fish lips."
      Lmao blew my mind too

  • @29BKing
    @29BKing 5 років тому +57

    It seems like a mistake to use the words of Vallelonga to corroborate the film, which is based on Vallelonga's book. Some other sources are needed.

    • @mrpinhedz7134
      @mrpinhedz7134 5 років тому +5

      It's the recorded interviews with Shirley that clinch the case. Also the letters.

  • @ArcWeldCam
    @ArcWeldCam 5 років тому +71

    How can you not mention Shirley’s family’s information for example how he was not estranged from the black community as he was depicted.

    • @advayiyer6456
      @advayiyer6456 5 років тому +11

      Because he was, the family was salty as they didn’t receive anything from their will

    • @maffieduran
      @maffieduran 4 роки тому +6

      After an archive interview with him debunked their "white saviour" claims, they are not to be trusted

  • @MarcG7424
    @MarcG7424 5 років тому +10

    I enjoyed the movie I was made aware of the Green Book as a child my wife had no idea it ever existed the book can be used as a teaching tool in American history.

    • @tdonovan4735
      @tdonovan4735 5 років тому +3

      The same with "Sundown Towns". Films like this give you a small taste of just how much America hides it's inglorious past - how it tries to sweep such situations under the carpet and hope that it never rears it's ugly head again (ie never spoken about). That partially explains why that country has such problems in this department today - because they never really addressed the issues - the just tried to ignore them - possibly out of embarrassment - but more likely out of ignorance

  • @kamanning1427
    @kamanning1427 3 роки тому +3

    Saw the movie twice...very beautiful story and inspiring as well..i would tell my friends to see it too...

  • @christopherdale8201
    @christopherdale8201 5 років тому +36

    Very Interesting story between Don Shirley and Tony Lip.

    • @RandomDudeOne
      @RandomDudeOne 5 років тому

      Don't call me Shirley.

    • @gullybop1695
      @gullybop1695 4 роки тому +1

      My new favorite movie. Bronx Tale held me down for the past 25 years....now Green Book will be in heavy rotation.

    • @louisesmith5477
      @louisesmith5477 4 роки тому

      Yes Indeed
      Love the Fried chicken seen

  • @SLAYERSWINE1
    @SLAYERSWINE1 4 роки тому +11

    Just got around to watching the movie today ( almost 7 years to the day of Dr Shirley's death) & thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for posting this, I appreciated this as well.👍✌🤘😷🤘

  • @Caribuu
    @Caribuu Місяць тому +2

    Watched this last night. Best movie I've seen in years

  • @williamtan4470
    @williamtan4470 5 років тому +10

    Love the historical details

  • @regularbasis9295
    @regularbasis9295 3 роки тому +2

    Just found your channel. Fantastic work.keep it up

  • @triciajohansen9295
    @triciajohansen9295 5 років тому +13

    Dr. Shirley was ADORABLE!!!😘

    • @gullybop1695
      @gullybop1695 4 роки тому +1

      So was Tony's wife. She was so nice.

  • @Yowzoe
    @Yowzoe 2 місяці тому

    *Wow, this was so fascinating.* I love the concept of explaining the history behind films, and you did it so fairly and authentically.
    A couple small suggestions: learn the accurate pronunciation of actors’ names before you get on the mic. And speaking of mics: get a better one.

  • @Sasscat58
    @Sasscat58 5 років тому +36

    He had such a great story, but they had to focus on the white guy. It focusing just on Tony becoming less racist thanks to the power of having a black friend.

    • @rob_3417
      @rob_3417 5 років тому

      Zzzzzzz

    • @karenburrows9184
      @karenburrows9184 5 років тому +8

      beriigirl: They focused on the "white guy" because it was written by the white guy's son. I don't know what other viewpoint you expected him to have. You've got a very narrow view of this movie, and considerably influenced by personal opinion. This movie is very close to the truth of events, written by Nick Vallelonga, who knew both men; one his father and the other a dear family friend. He based it on actual discussions with his father and Don Shirley. And yeah, I think Tony becoming less racist is a pretty good moral lesson, don't you? If you want a story about Dr. Shirley, have at it, hoss.

    • @kennethrussell1158
      @kennethrussell1158 5 років тому +4

      Reminds me of "Driving Miss Daisy"

    • @homelesshannah50
      @homelesshannah50 5 років тому +4

      @@karenburrows9184 FOH dumb bitch! Well the OTHER man's family said they were not good friends and that the movie gave their relationship some rose colored glasses bullshit. Spare me that Song of the South "magical Negro defeats racism" bullshit

  • @lucwijngaard8413
    @lucwijngaard8413 8 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting video, one of my favorite films I've seen the past few yeats

  • @p4rt_t1me_g0d
    @p4rt_t1me_g0d 5 років тому +19

    Not everything is history, there're still sundown towns!

    • @marmadukescarlet7791
      @marmadukescarlet7791 5 років тому +4

      Really? Wow! That’s disturbing.

    • @marmadukescarlet7791
      @marmadukescarlet7791 5 років тому

      Antonia Warrior you wouldn’t find a sign like that here, but travel to remote locations and you’ll find publicans and other business proprietors casually refusing service to First Nations people, even though they’re clearly in breach of the law. It’s interesting to compare racism in different countries and regions.

    • @georgiapeachpicker
      @georgiapeachpicker 4 роки тому +1

      I was warned by a native of Georgia that there are still sun down towns. Having said that I’ve met some of the loveliest people down here of all colors and friendly.

    • @MikaelLewisify
      @MikaelLewisify 4 роки тому +1

      JuanJose247 ...there’re???

  • @ceazrgranatelli
    @ceazrgranatelli Місяць тому +2

    I will never understand why people hate each other based on their color or ethnicity.. WE ALL HAVE TO ANSWER TO GOD FOR OUR LIFE WHEN CHRIST COMES TO TAKE SOME OF US HOME TO GOD

    • @saljpal3
      @saljpal3 Місяць тому +3

      It all goes back to biological instincts, anyone or anything remotely different from ourselves garners wariness and by extension prejudice.

  • @randomuser6175
    @randomuser6175 5 років тому +13

    Holy shit Tony Lip played Carmine Lupertazzi in Sopranos? Wow !!!!

    • @onlydaprecum
      @onlydaprecum Рік тому

      Historically, Carmine always said the Sopranos were nothing more than a glorified crew

  • @wyllefps
    @wyllefps 3 місяці тому +2

    The worst part of this movie is when Dolores thanks Shirley for helping Tony with the letters, and the screen just went black

  • @RMarciano1000
    @RMarciano1000 5 років тому +11

    This was an interesting piece. Thanks for the info.

  • @marianoble7911
    @marianoble7911 4 місяці тому

    I had the honor of meeting Don Shirley. He was both gracious and interesting yet he was interested in hearing from others about their world.

  • @BHall-tw4ye
    @BHall-tw4ye 5 років тому +34

    Loved the film, but not enough of Shirley’s music in it.

    • @virginiabrowning4323
      @virginiabrowning4323 4 роки тому

      I sure agree not enough of Shirley's music in it. That may have been the main reason I didn't love the film.

  • @larryjones-emery807
    @larryjones-emery807 Рік тому +1

    This video was a blessing for me. I collect DVDs that I would like to again and I own a copy of 'Green Book'.

  • @ryefry
    @ryefry 5 років тому +60

    I'm happy to find out that the movie was fairly accurate. That doesn't happen very often.

    • @yeeyee8416
      @yeeyee8416 5 років тому +1

      Your funny

    • @ladyaceina
      @ladyaceina 5 років тому +2

      no no it was not it was very innacurate it was just a white feel good film it made this biopic be about the white guy rather than ya know the actual famus person whos life the movie is ment to be about
      hell dons own family called the movie out (who the writer never bothered to even contact)

    • @mickdavis2385
      @mickdavis2385 5 років тому +3

      @@ladyaceina If you're so mad, pay off the jews who wrote this movie and make your own. What you don't think they made whites look bad enough? Christ this was 60 years ago. I swear you people crave the victimhood you never even experienced 1st hand!

    • @ladyaceina
      @ladyaceina 5 років тому +2

      @@mickdavis2385 we still have racists to this day but people like you dont want to listen to those who experience it you just call them snow flakes or say fake news or wtv buzzword is trending rather than listen to peoples own experiences
      and again this film was not accurate at all and focused on the white guy rather than the famous black man its ab out
      the entire production staff was white even its a white feel good film to make white people feel better about their racist past
      get over it snow flake this film was BS the family of the man its about where not even contacted

    • @mickdavis2385
      @mickdavis2385 5 років тому +2

      @@ladyaceina The only "racists" today are in your imagination. Jussie Smollett mentality. Fake a hate crime because your victim card is long expired. Sad!

  • @danrebeiz4598
    @danrebeiz4598 5 років тому +76

    Viggomore Tensen? Car Negiehall? Perplexing, but... ok.

    • @CarynDPrescott
      @CarynDPrescott 5 років тому +4

      I've heard Scottish and Welsh people pronounce Carnegie that way. The other mispronounciations are interesting.

    • @wr3915
      @wr3915 5 років тому +5

      And 'con-sertoe'?

    • @jceberle2724
      @jceberle2724 5 років тому +1

      That’s how Andrew pronounced it.

    • @CarynDPrescott
      @CarynDPrescott 5 років тому

      @James Walker a duck choking on a hairball 🤣🤣🤣

    • @miniair
      @miniair 5 років тому +1

      Carnegie is about the only thing he pronounced properly.

  • @marilynsnider8183
    @marilynsnider8183 2 роки тому +3

    I'll watch anything that has Viggo in it. He's such a talented actor.

  • @WonderfullyMadeLex
    @WonderfullyMadeLex 5 років тому +18

    Not bad & very tastefully done. 👍👍

  • @johncraft8175
    @johncraft8175 5 років тому +5

    Driving Ms. Daisy meets 42. Excellent movie, great acting by both men.

  • @Zeldarw104
    @Zeldarw104 5 років тому +5

    Excellent work fascinating insight!

  • @stevepipenger4651
    @stevepipenger4651 3 роки тому +24

    "Viggo more-TEN-son"? It's "Vee-go MOR-ten-sen".

    • @muhammadyousef7965
      @muhammadyousef7965 6 місяців тому

      The AI narration is the reason they cant pronounce for sh*t

  • @JoeLinux2000
    @JoeLinux2000 Рік тому

    I saw Don Shirley at the University of Colorado's Glenn Miller Ballroom sometime in the early 60's. I assume this was a part of the tour portrayed in the movie, although Boulder, Colorado is not in the South. I'm reasonably sure that Shirley played on the Baldwin piano that was on the ballroom's stage. I remember him as being a remarkable pianist.

  • @stevekrause5931
    @stevekrause5931 5 років тому +9

    Thank you for this informative video. I enjoyed it very much. Are you a fan of the film? I loved it and am embarrassed to admit that I've seen the movie 11 times so far and plan to buy the DVD. You answered some of the questions I had, so thank you. However, I still wonder about a few things. Perhaps you might know the answers? 1). Was there really a lucky rock? 2). Did the bar incident where Doc was got roughed up really occur? 3). They said that Doc and Tony remained lifelong friends, but I cannot find any photos of them together. Thanks again for the enjoyable video, and great job!

    • @HistoryvsHollywoodOfficial
      @HistoryvsHollywoodOfficial  5 років тому +5

      Steve, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. I enjoyed he film as well. As for your questions, no, I never came across any mention of the lucky rock. My guess is that it's fictional. With regard to the bar incident, a very similar incident did occur in real life, and it resulted in them being chased by an armed pack of white locals. The notion that they remained lifelong friends is questionable. I came across an interview with another friend who said that he didn't know of any other friends besides himself that Shirley had later in life. It's nice to imagine, but it seems that they may have lost touch.

    • @stevekrause5931
      @stevekrause5931 5 років тому +2

      @@HistoryvsHollywoodOfficial Cool, thanks. I did stumble across a few recordings of Tony talking about the trip, which I'm sure you did as well. According to his son, Nick, there are hours and hours of tapes. I wish they would release all of them, because they're pretty interesting. I only heard one clip of Shirley. It's where is talking about how he trusted Tony implicity and that he was more than just an employee. Would be nice to hear more.

    • @s1xtc3nt
      @s1xtc3nt 5 років тому +1

      @@HistoryvsHollywoodOfficial Where's the tapes of him claiming that he was out-casted by his family and the entire black community because that just sounds like a way too much 'creative license' coming from the screenwriters.

    • @s1xtc3nt
      @s1xtc3nt 5 років тому +2

      @Moana Lahi its a white man white washing a black mans history like a puppet and trying to delegitimise his families concerns, and the academy just drooled and jizzed all over the film because its white control over the black experience and a downplaying of racism.

    • @fruitcake7067
      @fruitcake7067 5 років тому +1

      @Moana Lahi The writer claimed that Shirley himself told him not to contact his family in regards to the movie, throwing their relationship and intentions into question; I won't say either party is implicitly correct because it's really a "he said, she said" situation, but it's important to consider both perspectives and not take everything at face value.

  • @maheshnepal4798
    @maheshnepal4798 3 роки тому +1

    Its not just a movie...its an undesired tears that will flow despite of any will.Its a friendship movie.

  • @jeffreysmith4965
    @jeffreysmith4965 5 років тому +4

    Excellent video about an excellent movie and two extraordinary people.

  • @tdonovan4735
    @tdonovan4735 5 років тому +2

    Correction (@ 08:36) when Tony punched the policeman - it wasn't because the policeman used a derogatory name for Italians, as was stated in this video, it was because he said that being Italian meant he was half a -"N" (a derogatory name for Black people)

    • @nuqwestr
      @nuqwestr 3 роки тому

      Yes, not an uncommon opinion in the South of the time and earlier: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_14,_1891_New_Orleans_lynchings#:~:text=The%20March%2014%2C%201891%2C%20New,mass%20lynchings%20in%20American%20history.

  • @DaleLClay
    @DaleLClay 5 років тому +10

    H v H, you need sound proofing in the room you record your audio, as there is lots of echo from your walls. Good luck

    • @dreamervanroom
      @dreamervanroom 5 років тому

      Heavy fabric or carpet on walls...

    • @alysiamerdavid-wasser9165
      @alysiamerdavid-wasser9165 5 років тому

      i heard clarity, then an almost muffled speech throughout, then clarity on the fried chicken edit, then muffled again.

  • @imhere8380
    @imhere8380 7 місяців тому

    I saw this movie today. It really touched my heart. The movie will go down as a classic and will still be known and appreciated in 50 years from now as it deals with human struggle, humanity, politics, history, civil rights, music, family, personal struggles, corruption, bigotry, racism, apartheid, addiction, faith, hope, love and creativity.

  • @elijahdonaldson2518
    @elijahdonaldson2518 4 роки тому +5

    Truly a excellent film. That's why I love biographies, such substance.

  • @SunshineSurfsup1
    @SunshineSurfsup1 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for this! Well done... will watch

  • @alexander3699
    @alexander3699 5 років тому +4

    Thanks so much for creating this! Very well done!!

  • @DrAgan_tortojed
    @DrAgan_tortojed 6 місяців тому +1

    Where Viggo appears, that can only be an OUTSTANDING movie...

  • @er1073
    @er1073 4 роки тому +3

    I enjoyed this movie immensely it wasn't all entertainment to me but history also. I had heard about the Green Book but didn't know what it was about until I watched the movie. It is a shame that there had to be a Green Book to begin with. I hope as a nation we can get rid of our prejudices forever.

  • @biffjohnson34
    @biffjohnson34 3 роки тому

    Tony Lip also had a small part in the beginning of Pope of Greenwich Village ,,,he played a bookmaker

  • @b991228
    @b991228 5 років тому +10

    The purpose of a drama is to simply capture the emotional essence of the character and plot of the historical situation. The movie did that very effectively.

  • @23buzzchopper
    @23buzzchopper 2 роки тому +1

    This story almost made me cry!

  • @SirJimbo89
    @SirJimbo89 5 років тому +10

    I like the movie. For all the critics out there, I think it was Don who saved Tony by changing his racial perception. It was not a white man save black man, but rather the other way around.

    • @nonih9338
      @nonih9338 5 років тому +2

      Why can't the Black man just be himself and not have to save anyone, and just focus on his career? Lol. The story is nothing to romanticize. It's always the person of color who has to teach a White person about just being respectful and not being racist, or what things are or aren't offensive, etc. It's weird. To me, a story angled around the chaotic life Mr. Shirley had to have gone through just to do the thing he loved and was skilled at, while also finding out he's gay (which isn't tolerated in different cultures and was a barrier between him and his fam), and then having to teach a racist how to do better while traveling...I mean, that would've been a cooler story imo. To know that he still 'made it' essentially and was able to live pretty swankly is really cool for that era. He had to have been such a Boss irl I bet.

    • @SirJimbo89
      @SirJimbo89 5 років тому

      @Daughter of Zion then sure, but he's getting a bit better and less ignorant now.

    • @SirJimbo89
      @SirJimbo89 5 років тому +3

      @@nonih9338 because the movie is about a white guy. and they could have made a movie about the black guy, but then ali wouldn't have won the oscar for best actor against Rami's Freddie Mercury.
      Also, there's nothing wrong with black people teaching white people. I think it's better that way because there's no way a white person would be able to teach what a black person goes through.

  • @philipeisenberg6984
    @philipeisenberg6984 3 роки тому +1

    Dolores embracing Don at the closing end of the movie: moving.