Transatlantic Part 11: Electric Motor, Life at Sea | Sailing Wisdom S3 Ep13
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Spirits are up as we near our destination! This video is packed with GORGEOUS imagery of life at sea. We discuss how it has been crossing the ocean with an electric motor, Herby fixes a malfunction in the packing gland and talks about cloud formations with high and low pressure systems, and we cook yummy meals!
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It’s called sailing, guys are very fortunate that you are not held to the constraints of time. Enjoy this precious gift
Good job. One note: regarding “always in a counter clockwise direction”...you might add “if you’re in the northern hemisphere “.
You two definitely deserve an award for sailing all that way essentially without a motor. I would have turned on mine a long time before due to lack of patience. Two thumbs up for all that work and perseverance.
I have crossed the atlantic twicein a 30ft sailboat, from Cabo Verde to the carribean, our diesel engine was running less than two hours, one hour to get out of the harbour and half an hour to get into clifton harbour. The second time from Bermuda to the Azores, one hour out and than twenty hours on the last day to Flores, avoiding a northeastery wind coming with force 8 directly on our nose. I was happy with our little diesel!
It is super cool on your journey, looking positive on the electric motor on a sailboat
Oh yes! We wouldn’t have it any other way :)
Waves are hypnotizing... so true!
though 4 years ago you're electric motor sail across the Atlantic is all the inspiration I need to electrify my boat. BTW: I believe I have the same electric motor... Fair Winds...
QT20? It’s a workhorse!
Hi H and M,
My wife and I cruised the Caribbean and Bahamas from 1982-1985 in a 35' ketch. We only had a two burner propane stove for cooking but were, and still are, focused on good food, bread included. I've watched you guys struggling with bread making and, yes, you are improving Herbie, but you can do much better. Here's my two cents.
English muffins are easy to make, baking them in a cast iron frying pan with a cover. Lightly grease the pan and turn the muffins half way through the cooking. They cook much faster than a loaf of bread, but you still have to do the double rise.
For baking a yeast bread loaf I suggest you get a round cast iron dutch oven with cover. Then buy a tall round aluminum or steel pan to place inside the oven, resting it on a metal ring that's 3/4-1" high that sits on the bottom of the oven. You can cut the ring from a large tin can. Grease the pan heavily and don't use the parchment paper. This setup will give results similar to a real oven, without the large variation in degree of doneness you are getting with your current technique and setup. I suggest about a 10 quart dutch oven which will have an ID of 10.5-12". Fat Daddio's 9" diameter/4" high round baking pan will make a good loaf pan.
Also, there are some fine non-yeast bread options, such as corn bread. They are great if you haven't the time or inclination to make yeast bread.
Let me know if you'd like more details of the equipment or methods or some recipes.
Fair Winds,
Bob D.
Yes please! Each loaf is better than the last, and I’m always learning.
Now that we are in the Azores, we are doing some upgrades to the boat and the galley is one of them so the way I bake bread is going to change ;) but I’m still looking for new things to make.
Right now, I know how to make burger buns and bread. Kind of a two trick pony... I would really like to learn cornbread and English muffins, I love both of them!
Our email is riggingdr@gmail.com
Thanks!
Herby
@@RiggingDoctor What changes are you planning to make to the galley? Any change to the stove top or adding an oven?
We got a solar oven from SunOven.
We are changing the stove to a gimbaled alcohol stove and if we can afford it, also an alcohol oven.
Otherwise, the solar oven will be for when conditions allow.
I'm guessing here but the buoy that your saw is probably an Atlantic weather buoy. The are used for weather, storm, and hurricane information gathering. Part of NOAA I believe. That's how the weather models are made. Good to see your getting close to the Azores. That will be a happy sighting when you see land after all those days at sea. Your bread making skills have really improved, good for you and Maddie. Happy sailing.
It was a magical feeling to see land after all that time.
We were sailing a small Cat from Cuba to Marathon Fl. We had a weather window close in on us and got caught up on a Nor Easter on the Florida Stream. Our brand new Honda 2000, which was strapped on the back end of the cockpit got pooped with a nasty breaking wave. The salt water destroyed the generator. It was a tough passage and eventually all power died on us. Try as we might, we could not start the generator. We also tried to repair or rebuild the generator once we made it to Marathon. I say this because you said your generator was stored aft as well. The circuit card inside the Honda was destroyed and not cost efficient to replace. I wish now that we had stored that generator in a better location or somehow put it in a waterproof sack.
Wow! That sounds like a pounding! We picked up a large piece of sunbrella in Oriental, NC that we wrap the generator up completely.
We have had waves come over the stern and soak everything, thankfully it has remained alive.
We do periodically soak the internals with light spray oil to help fight corrosion.
Where do you keep yours now?
Once we limped into Marathon we tried to get the Honda repaired. In the end it couldn’t be repaired economically. Marathon was full of vessels waiting for a window and some actually turned back from Bahamas bad weather. Long story short, there was no room in Marathon so we sailed up to Fort Myers. The Captain put the Cat up for sale and the broken Generator stayed with the boat. The Captain had to move to Australia and that was the last I heard from him or the sail boat.
By the way guys, your videos are so helpful. Although I now have several thousand miles logged, mostly on a Morgan with only the Captain, on several 12 day passages, I understand what you guys experience. I now have a Hughes 38 that I aim to fix up. What you have done and documented in your videos has and continues to help show what I need to focus on and how I should proceed. I look forward to viewing all your adventures. Fair winds.
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Congrats on your crossing using just what Mother Nature provides for you. Your bang on when you say it can be done with an electric motor. What's your next challenge? Another crossing without using GPS etc. Just think...no motor, no electronics, definitely 'au naturel'. Enjoy your adventure, thanks for posting and stay safe.
I agree.... It does seem like it took a long time lol. But yeah I was thinking that too how that in the olden days they didn't have the modern technologies and so your experience is more similar to theirs
Another fantastic video! Yours are the best! Steady on mateys!
your ocean sailing videos are getting better and better. also, think back to your dayson the ICW! hahah big difference huh, You two are great.
certainly can be done and has been done many times over without engine power. Good on you to follow the footsteps of the early explorers.
One of your best, wonderful music. God speed.
Ahoy matey walk the plank...☠️
Pat yourselves on the back, you are now part of the crew of folks who have been doing it for centuries, and importantly, to the Country who led the World in exploration. 🇵🇹
Congratulations. 👍
Well done guys, gret video and very informative. Plenty of sail boats sailed all over the world without any power, some people have no idea.
So next..... "LAND HO" !! Congratulations Herby & Maddy!
Oh please? Leaf Erikson, Joshua Slocum, Magellan, Drake, and too many to count lived and sailed for centuries without a single watt of electric power. They also got caught in high pressure systems and the doldrums where they spent weeks or longer awaiting a breeze to carry them along. Yes, it can be done if one wants to do it that way. You don't need a 45' boat either. My father worked with Robert Manry who sailed across in SV Tinkerbell a 13.5' vessel. The only question as to what one can sail across the ocean is really how many creature comforts one wishes to give up in doing so.
spencer marshall .. Leif Eriksson thank you very much
@@haywood12, Yeah, him too. Robert Manry was interesting, he had NO auxiliary propulsion at all nor a generator. He may have had an oar. He was very surprised at the huge welcoming armada assembled for his welcoming and all the attention to his crossing. I guess he wasn't into attention seeking and just did it to prove to himself more than anyone he could do it. I wonder how fuel he used to cook with on his across? Not exactly a carbon neutral crossing, but then, who cares? I mean really, who cares?
great video guys!
Another Sunday completed now I’ve watched your adventure. Btw, bread is life, bake bread then learn to sail :)
A lot of times you have a bigger battle from the nay sayers then actually doing something. LOL like really as was said in your video, it is not like sailing hasn't been accomplished with out a motor through the centuries. Well done! I have covered similar issues in my blog... it just never seems to end the people say you can't do something. Good job!
Now, when someone says it can’t be done, direct them to season 3 please.
And if they continue to rip on you, we made a special shirt for them
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Haha!
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Awesome seamanship (and seawomanship) :)
HERBIE !
YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB !
I PARTICULARLY LIKE YOUR KEEN AWARENESS OF SAFETY IN THE ENVIRONMENT YOU ARE IN THIS INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO
1) CHANGING SEA AND WEATHER CONDITIONS
2) WATCH KEEPING (IT ALWAYS MAY BE IMPROVED AND SHARPENED)
3) USE OF SAFETY HARNESS AND PFD (YOU MIGHT ADD A CLIP ON STROBE LIGHT
AND A POLICE TYPE WHISTLE ON A LANYARD) MANY YACHT PEOPLE OVERLOOK THESE BASIC MEASURES "IM JUST GOING OUT FOR A DAY SAIL" OR GOING DOWN THE COAST AS AN EXCUSE FOR THEIR NEGLIGENCE
4) EXTRA KUDOS FOR CHECKING THE BILGE ! UNCONTROLLED "FREE SURFACE EFFECT" CAN DESTABILIZE THE WATERPLANE RESULTING IN THE CAPSIZING OF THE VESSEL QUICKER THAN IT TAKES TO DESCRIBE IT
5) HISTORICALLY "WATCH AND WATCH" GOES BACK TO THE ANCIENT PHOENICIANS
DURING THE GREAT EPOCH OF SQUARE RIG SAIL SEAFARERS HAD TO CONTEND WITH CONSTANT FATIGUE BAD NUTRITION COLD AND WET AND POOR HYGIENE FOR VOYAGES UP TO TWO YEARS AT A TIME THIS UNTIL QUITE RECENTLY WAS THE "NORM" FOR THE MAJORITY OF SEAFARERS MANY OLD TIMERS COULD NOT GET OUT
OF THE LESS THAN 4 HOURS SLEEP HABIT EVEN WHEN ASHORE FOR YOU AND MADDIE IT WILL BE A "PIECE OF CAKE"
6) TITLE 46 USC AND IT'S ACCOMPANYING CFRS CHANGED ALL THAT
WATCH STANDERS EXCEPT IN "DIRE EMERGENCIES" MUST HAVE 8 HOURS REST BETWEEN WATCHES THATS THE LAW (YACHTS PERSONS ARE NOT COVERED BUT TO STAND 4 HOURS ON 8 HOURS OFF HAS PROVEN TO BE THE SAFEST MOST EFFICIENT WATCH KEEPING METHOD
7) HAVE YOU TAUGHT MADDIE HOW TO NAVIGATE YET ? HOW ABOUT "COLREGS" ?
8) DID YOU LEARN HOW TO SUTURE IN A COFFEE CUP YET ?
WISHING YOU BOTH A SAFE AND PLEASANT PASSAGE !
BEST WISHES
BEN
Maddie knows the COLREGS through and through!
I have never sutured in a coffee cup, but I have done something similar: back of the mouth, so a wet and moving coffee cup that bleeds and drools!
I do a lot of suturing at work after I take teeth out :)
HERBIE !
OUTSTANDING FOR MADDIE !!!
HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETIME ABOUT AN EXTRACTION I DID AS A "DESIGNATED MEDICAL OFFICER" (MASTER DESIGNATED) WITH IMPROVISED MATERIALS AND A BOTTLE OF BRANDY AND 4 GLASSES FORCEPS AND AN ELEVATOR
MY LATE DENTAL SURGEON (AND FAVORITE DENTIST) SHOWED ME HOW TO SUTURE IN A SHOT GLASS IT'S MORE PRECISE THAN A COFFEE CUP AND ONCE MASTERED IT'S NEATER
HOW IS YOUR NAVIGATION DOING ? ARE YOU KEEPING A NOTEBOOK ? HAVE YOU DONE BLINKER YET ? STAR ID ?
BE WELL STAY SAFE WISHING YOU A PLEASANT PASSAGE
BEST WISHES
BEN
The free surface effect is a problem for cargo ships and ferries.. but not for sailing yachts, thanks to the fact that they have a ballast keel mounted well below the bottom of the hull. That keeps the center of gravity a lot lower than a flat bottomed ship can manage, with the result that they're a LOT harder to capsize.
Never doubted you could do the crossing, you prepared for it and apparently have the patience for it too!
I did notice you did not have a vang on the boom ( toward end of film) and it was lifting regularly loosing you power. Prehaps you were between sail adjustments ? Or did you have a different reason. Cheers Warren
We don’t have a Vang on Wisdom, it never had one.
The only time the boom lifts and spills wind is when we are broad reaching or running, on other points of sail the sheet keeps the boom from lifting.
We made the conscious decision not to install a bang because in very rare occasions, the boom can buckle at the vang and leave you relying on your motor for the rest of the trip. Since we don’t have that backup option, we elected to loose a little speed and performance by going without the vang.
Preventer on boom wood help clanging.
have you ever considered "wool", for a barrier between the foam and the top sheet?
I have not! To make sure I am following:
Blanket, Sheet, Us, Sheet, Wool, Foam, Boat
or
Blanket, Sheet, Us, Sheet, Foam, Wool, Boat
ah ... word games ... fun
I am wondering if a nice, near 100% wool blanket, on top of your bed, but under the bottom sheet, might make everything feel a little dryer ... Blanket, Sheet, Us, Sheet, Wool, Foam, Boat.
You guys have been through a lot ... what do "they", say about getting through rough times ... oh yeh ... IT BUILDS CHARACTER ... and it's an experience builder.
You two could present your cruising exploits, like few do. Adversity, unavoidable or even self-inflicted and "mistakes" ... raises eyebrows ... raised eyebrows means being more attentive ... often because it's "refreshingly", different to see adversity, resolution and outcome ... like your boat on a beach ...
John
How does your bike fair on deck? Is rust a concern?
It pretty much died hahaha
How many engine hours did you do , give us an update after several thousand miles , it may change if you have to do several days motoring as we have had to do and the battery’s over heat and contact Leeds start to melt , , all good but good luck
⛵️♻️⚡️sustainable sailing as before, parabens
Muito obrigado 😊
You need to protect the root of the little plant from the sun light covering the glass pot.
I know that now, but unfortunately these videos are from July, so Thomas died while we were home with family. We will do that for the next Tomato plant though!
I know you like your electric motor, but what will you do if you want to cross the equator and get stuck in the doldrums (ITCZ) for days or weeks like the old sailing ships often did? Do you have enough power to motor for 3 days for example?
cheers Russell.
Light air sails would be what we would use. They got us through the doldrums, and they would work there as well.
We try to ride ocean currents as much as we can, so if the wind fails us, we will drift in the right direction.
Sorry that this is the third post. Wait you have chicken After a month. Maybe I don't understand this way of sealing food. Because if I am correct you're not freezing the food. How do you have chicken after a month I guess the same goes with beef since you're having hamburgers too
Vacuum sealed and then frozen, it keeps really well 😎
Speaking of bread. In the very beginning of your videos I saw that Maddie was eating bread but Herbie was not. After that one guy taught you guys to make bread I've seen Herbie eat bread almost every time. So did something change with Herbie or are you guys making special bread. I don't think you've ever pointed that out. By the way the reason why I'm asking is because I have a problem with bread. Sometimes I eat it but I pay for eating it. Not sure the price would be worth it if I was on a boat and stuck with a porta potty
I used to be allergic to it, it would cause an asthmatic attack and it was not pretty. I was skeptical about trying the bread but when I did, nothing bad happened! Then I had some more and I continued to be problem free! I have been enjoying bread for about 5 years now and it’s glorious!!
Does your electric motor have hydro regeneration?
+Lucas Lutz yes. It is an option that you can turn on or off. When turned on, as you sail, the propeller spins the motor and the motor acts as a generator giving us about 6 amps @48v or the equivalent of 24 amps @12v all the time, day and night. This kept the fridge cold, the lights on, and all our batteries fully charged the whole way across :)
Hey guys, did you get any stretch in your stats?
I don't think I would get a sailboat with a electric engine. I've considered it in the past, and I have been watching your channel to see how you manage. For me unless I had a 50 KWH battery pack and 6K watts of solar, I don't think it would work for me.
It’s certainly not for everyone!
I think an elec motor makes sense unless you just cant break the bond to fossil fuels. This is now something I am going to look into . ty
You are very welcome! If you have time and patience, it’s great :)
And to answer your question on the Electric Motor Regen video, this is our motor: electricyacht.com/product/quiettorque-20-electric-motor/
9:45: "Who is going to come out here & fix it for you"
Karen: "Let me speak with your manager"
Cheese please? Are you running a refrigerator? I'm going to give the bilge cheese a try but, here in the states cheese is refrigerated and I know that is not universal. I need a source for refrigerated cheese.
We do have a fridge, but the cheese doesn’t need to be refrigerated. We bought the cheese in Maryland and it was refrigerated feta at the time, we just put it in the oil and placed it down in the bilge to age.
We’re still eating that same batch and it only gets better with time!
On watch? You have no radar?
Correct
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On our catamaran to build i'm going to use the HPM 10Kw Watercooled BLDC Motor from www.coldenmotor.com 3000 rpm reduced to 1000/1500 rpm what is your opinion on this motor. Powerd by used electric car battery's Tesla, Nissan Leaf or other.
They look like a really solid design!
I was going to build my own system until it came to the total cost. All the parts totaled at just a few hundred dollars less than the kit from Electric Yachts, but my setup did not include the motor mount or a way to connect it to the shaft.
That’s why I decided to pay for something that someone else engineered for me and I didn’t have to think too hard on it. (These costs are now all 4 years old, so obviously outdated)
$795 sounds like a steal for the motor, but make sure the whole shebang costs less than $5695 because that is the cost of the 10kw from the company that made my motor.
Good luck and keep me posted on how it goes!
Also, let me know if you have any info on converting a car battery to 48v setup. We are looking at lithium and I’m contemplating that option :)
@@RiggingDoctor Your crosing the Atlantic i know a guy in The Netherlands Daniël Boekel hij knows a lot of re-using electric car battery's facebook.com/Shipcraftengineering/ he can deliver wat ever you want.
Here's a video of the HPM-10KW in a boat direct drive, maybe ask if they like the motor: ua-cam.com/video/bsrGQjVBNyg/v-deo.html
Thanks! I’ll check him out
If you use a diesel motor to get there 15 days sooner, you just cheated yourself out of 15 days on the water!
Amen!