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  • @nasrclips2757
    @nasrclips2757 Рік тому +105

    tbh its nice that nilah can itemize differently, very unique champ

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +14

      Yep, very versatile champion

    • @Mars30999
      @Mars30999 Рік тому +5

      Unlike samira :(

    • @wielbladtibijski
      @wielbladtibijski Рік тому +1

      omg 3 builds so unique

    • @kreeperkiller4423
      @kreeperkiller4423 Рік тому +13

      @@wielbladtibijski most champs only really have 1, MAYBE 2 good builds. 3 good builds is a relatively large of build diversity comparitavely.

    • @stereotypicalguy420
      @stereotypicalguy420 Рік тому +1

      @@Mars30999 samira can, but it spikes way too late for mid game

  • @streamcafemusic
    @streamcafemusic Рік тому +1

    hi there! so happy to hear our track in your video :) thank you for using it and crediting!

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the great music

  • @yuukifenia1611
    @yuukifenia1611 Рік тому +17

    One of the other interesting build options for Nilah I've seen has been Divine Sunderer into tanky teams. You don't rush it and you go Crit first into it 2nd or 3rd but it gives you a lot more of a bruiser pattern which is interesting.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +4

      Definitely a good option for top lane!

    • @balaclava6652
      @balaclava6652 Рік тому

      ​@@LoLEnryu how would a nilah top build work? like, exaust instead of cleanse and zeal into DS?

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap Рік тому

      @@balaclava6652 as a top main, I would hate such a build lol(if zeal still gives ms), so go ahead and do it

  • @imrance4
    @imrance4 Рік тому +2

    hey can you try my build I think it's pretty crazy, Eclipse>Platesteel boots>The Collector>Navori>Essence reaver and for last either bloodthirster or Botrk

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I've tried this iteration before, essence reaver isn't great unless you buy it first item, and Nilah needs LDR

    • @imrance4
      @imrance4 Рік тому

      @Enryu oh thanks I didn't know that but I think there's no reason for Lord Dominiks since you get about 30 lethality and 30 armor penetration and your Q gives armor penetration based on crit chance, I think Botrk or Muramana could replace it

  • @cosmicbrownie2312
    @cosmicbrownie2312 Рік тому +5

    Maxing E instead of Q honestly gives me the interest to try this champ, my complaints with the champ bot side have always been how it feels so miserable to have such long cds on your e early game, but that looks like good tech especially with a safe scaling laner! Thank you for the tips ^^

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @stevenkunz4443
    @stevenkunz4443 Рік тому +1

    Honestly have learned a lot from your videos. Mostly play collector into dusk into BT. Have been doing some collector into BT into IE and ISB, GA. You are quite literally unkillable and do a stupid amount of damage with 100%crit chance. It’s good for fighting at obj and in base since you are going to be close up and they can’t run from you. Do you ever recommend going Bork if they have a super fed cho or mundo on the enemy team? I always have a problem fighting against a fed cho…..

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Bork is alright if they literally have 4+ tanks/bruisers but LDR is usually good enough for 1-2 high HP targets

  • @MisterMunkki
    @MisterMunkki Рік тому +2

    Just wanted to point out that Lethality is not the same as Flat Armor Pen, it scales with level ! Meaning 40 lethality is like ignoring 40 armor only at level 18, for exemple at level 10, 40 lethality will ignore about 33 armor

  • @deigomah5524
    @deigomah5524 Рік тому +1

    can u explain ur itembuild/s? when prowlers, when other items, why do u go zeal inbetween ur build? maybe you could do a guide on that ?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I have a video on the channel - it's a runes & itemization guide if you wanna take a look at it

  • @JohnyFuego225
    @JohnyFuego225 Рік тому +1

    what are your thoughs on the infinity edge changes and why are you not building it

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Navori is just a better item, Nilah's abilities do too much damage to give up the Navori spike with the lethality build

  • @seresute7094
    @seresute7094 Рік тому +4

    i mostly play Samira as i love her playstyle, i get to do basically the same thing with this build, and have been loving it, so thanks for information!
    after being on both ends of the Samira vs Nilah lane i feel Nilah is a pretty hard wall for Samira to deal with, in your opinion what are the best and worst lanes for Nilah
    maybe a video idea would be to create a "how does nilah fair vs this patch's "meta picks" "

    • @00J-Tone
      @00J-Tone Рік тому +1

      Its definitely a skill matchup. Ive been on both ends and Nilah seems to win early while Samira wins mid game and late game is just who burst the enemy team harder. Very similar champs.

    • @moatezaleisa4060
      @moatezaleisa4060 Рік тому +2

      @@00J-Tone I think it's nilah favored as she can cancel samira's r and her w doesn't allow samira to stack style with autos, also she has 2 dashes so she can run away from samira if its a bad fight also can stack conqueror way faster

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoy it! I have a channel in my discord dedicated to matchups if you want to take a look at it!

  • @daliag2424
    @daliag2424 Рік тому +1

    Great video! I'm a firm believer of Burst Nilah instead of sustained damage, it just fits her kit much more.
    But i got a question tho: what do you think about Essence Reaver (replacing Collector)? Either Prowler > ER or ER > Prowler (maybe ER > IE/Navori?). I just think that the item is much more consistent than Collector. Mainly because it's cheaper and scales better (ignoring the mana passive, which i think it's not needed but more than welcome on Nilah. ER is not build because of the mana). I just feel like Collector falls off too hard with the low Lethality and basically non-existing passive.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Collector is just a very strong snowball item, essence reaver is only if you have mana problems since realistically nilah doesn't need the sheen proc damage. However, if we play nilah well, she shouldn't run into mana problems. It is also false that essence scales better than collector since collector's passive is unique in the game and having an execute damage on any target can net you extra kills and win close fights.

    • @daliag2424
      @daliag2424 Рік тому +1

      1. "Collector is a very strong snowball item"
      Well, so is ER. It's usually built as a first or second item by champs that want to snowball like Draven or Rengar.
      2. "Essence Reaver is only if you have mana problems"
      This is just false. Even Manaless champions build this item just because of the crazy early powerspike and also how well it scales with more AD.
      3. "Nilah doesn't need the sheen proc damage".
      Really? I'm gonna take your word here, since you have probably more Nilah experience than i do, but i just assumed that a champion that has low Cooldowns, build a lot of Ability Haste and Basic Attacks a lot would really like the Sheen proc. But yeah if she doesn't use Sheen well then yes ER should not be good.
      4. "It is also false that essence scales better than collector since collector's passive is unique in the game"
      ER's passive is also unique, as it is an bonus AD scaling Sheen proc, it can snowball like crazy if you get a lot of early kills.
      5. "having an execute damage on any target can net you extra kills and win close fights."
      Yeah, but execute damage is just that, damage. 5% of a champion's maximum health is about 65-100 (depending if they're squishy or not). ER's sheen proc will deal ~100 damage every time you activate it (which will be more than Collector's proc), it also works on minions, and it gives you extra Ability Haste and Mana (that, again, it's not needed but more than welcome).

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      @@daliag2424 You raise really good points but essence reaver's passive is not unique in the sense that it just does damage, which is something many items do. But collector is an item that executes the enemy below a % of health. This item is good vs. all champions, and especially tanks despite popular belief bc tanks will have more health despite being 5% hp compared to a squishy target. This is really good in close fights and makes for plays that aren't possible otherwise, much like the triumph rune that gives back just enough hp in scenarios where you would die otherwise. Nilah also doesn't need an insane amount of ability haste, lethality mythic item is enough. The lethality on collector also just works better in a lethality build.
      It is also not false that you only build essence reaver if you have mana problems, draven has massive mana problems which is why he needs essence reaver. Champions like rengar build essence for sheen passive, and rengar would also go divine sunderer if the game requires it, it just so happens that essence reaver is the sheen item that deals with squishy champions. It is not a crazy powerspike for a champion like Nilah that has a hard time sticking to ranged champions and should look to end fights as soon as possible.

  • @venom133br
    @venom133br Рік тому +3

    Man i really like your vids, i showed them to my duo and he is picking it up and learning all the techs from you! Since you showed the Sup tier list ... i wanted to know where would you place Swain as a supp, i usually main swain or naut... we had some really nilah/naut/thresh games and i wanted to try swain too but since he is not very tanky i was not that sure about it, but the way you said how the engage is better with some cc and a way for nilah to fight without using her E as a gap closer and all i think swain would be a good matchup with her.... what do you think ?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      I would say Swain is definitely weak with Nilah in the early stages of the game, but after level 6 you should win fights against a good majority of the matchups. The only problem is Swain doesn't really provide much for Nilah so it's kinda like you are each playing your own game.

  • @factspitta7224
    @factspitta7224 Рік тому +21

    as a pyke/leona/nautilus main, nilah is my absolute favorite adc in the entire game to play with, she has everything I could ever ask from an adc and more, its really sad that pretty much no one appreciates her and most adc are wannabe rekkles and forg1ven and think they can solocarry by spamming jinx/kaisa/xayah and other generic anti-fun champs

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +4

      Agreed! I love it when I have a champion like pyke/nautilus/leona on my team because then I know I don't have to AFK during lane. I would say most pro players probably know how to play her, but there hasn't been an opportunity to show it on stage or maybe the coaching staff don't like the champion. Can't really blame them

    • @factspitta7224
      @factspitta7224 Рік тому +2

      @@LoLEnryu yeah, I guess since nilah is a far cry from the conventional long range consistent high damage adc, the pro scene doesn't really play into her that much, which is sad because she has perhaps the biggest snowball potential in botlane; maybe at least she might get some buffs since she is so unpopular

    • @00J-Tone
      @00J-Tone Рік тому +1

      I can confirm you make it to late game with jinx its a wrap. my wr with her skyrockets at 5 items.

    • @iDivinity117
      @iDivinity117 Рік тому +1

      Guess I'm a little confused as to how any of the champs you mentioned are anti-fun lol

    • @factspitta7224
      @factspitta7224 Рік тому +1

      @@iDivinity117 average adc gameplay is 30mins of farming and then right clicking while staying away from all enemies

  • @flayawag4334
    @flayawag4334 Рік тому +12

    My main is jinx but I've recently started playing nilah and samira and I have to say I love the dash/dmg negate ability these Champs provide and it is really fun to use. I love nilah more than samira cause the two dashes feel really good, and I've tried the ravenous build but imo I just felt like I wasn't able to do enough so whenever I try to go in my dmg feels bad, I want to try your build it seems really fun with the three dashes I never even thought to build prowlers, thank you for the guide 👍

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +3

      Yep! Please try the lethality build, it's very fun! Thank you for watching :3

    • @nik_ms
      @nik_ms Рік тому

      Oh so you're moving on to not brain dead characters, good

    • @biggiecheese2004
      @biggiecheese2004 Рік тому

      @@nik_ms there is no braindead adc besides jhin or mf and even that isn’t really braindead

  • @Giveyouthesquid
    @Giveyouthesquid Рік тому +1

    is there any merit to build galeforce on her. you lose a bit of lethality of mythic passive but you get and non-targeting dash and movespeed is nice late.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      There is merit for Galeforce but it definitely is less damage than Prowler's. With the changes to Prowler's Claw, it isn't good on Nilah anymore so if we do want a dash, galeforce would be the item

  • @gonzague9981
    @gonzague9981 Рік тому +1

    Wondering about going the lethality build sith engage supports and shieldbow with enchanters 🤔

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Yep! This is the idea, but sometimes you need lethality build even if you have an enchanter

  • @_Thermo_
    @_Thermo_ Рік тому +1

    Would you ever do any samira content as i see you playing her in a few vids?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      There's a good chance I will release content about other champions in the future but right now I am focusing on Nilah. I'm sure there are other players who are good at Samira who are making content though!

  • @chukas88
    @chukas88 Рік тому +2

    what do you think of hail of blades instead of conqueror? you say her fights aren't supposed to be long, doesn't conqueror depend on fights being longer? It just seems counterintuitive to go conquerors if your fights are going to be short, and her early game damage seems so lacking with conquerors.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      It's quite the opposite actually, Conqueror is what allows her damage to not be lacking in the early game. Before Nilah has items, her fights will be long, which is the same as any adc champion. If you don't auto someone for like 10 times in the early-mid game u won't be killing them. The other runes in the Conqueror tree are important as well, but the red tree barely has any value.

    • @chukas88
      @chukas88 Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu okay makes sense! I think I'm just taking bad fights where the fights don't go on for long or they get to disengage. And yeah besides the main mastery the red tree doesn't give much.

  • @NomisBbew
    @NomisBbew Рік тому +2

    Can you do a vid on how to play from behind?

  • @TheKrow1984
    @TheKrow1984 Рік тому +1

    But what app are you using to show gold difference and jungle timers? I’m sure somebody must know.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Blitz.gg !

    • @TheKrow1984
      @TheKrow1984 Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu Thank you sir! Love the vids. Keep it up!

  • @kalvincroto1887
    @kalvincroto1887 Рік тому +1

    Easily one of the best things about the hydra build is the wave clear. Maybe it's a hydra + tp angle for lots of pressure?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Hydra doesn't actually provide a much faster wave clear, Nilah already one-shots waves at one item without ravenous hydra

  • @vento1986
    @vento1986 Рік тому +1

    HI! How would you adjust your Nilah build after the patch 13.10?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Galeforce is good, Eclipse build is still the same and I like it the most into melee comps. After patch 13.11, ghostblade should be less effective and duskblade priority should go up for lethality build

  • @Jeiss_V
    @Jeiss_V Рік тому +1

    Why not mortal reminder now? isn't it better generally in this meta unless ur vs a 5k hp sett, sion, chogath, etc

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      It depends on what you mean by this meta, because I am still seeing at least 1-2 champion that build a lot of HP in every game. Even champions like fiora or wukong will stack health, HP items aren't limited to just tanks. Which is why in most games you won't even see champions like zeri or jinx buy mortal reminder

    • @Jeiss_V
      @Jeiss_V Рік тому

      ​@@LoLEnryu hmm i see thank you, the reason i was also asking is bc they nerfed support grevious wounds so it can't apply on allies anymore so I was just wondering I thought carries would be the ones to buy it now, and i didn't know whether mortal or ldr was better vs tanky and healing champs like fiora and wukong.

  • @kaldra1920
    @kaldra1920 Рік тому +1

    do you always build prowler's? or do you soemtimes switch to eclipse if they have a lot of melee fighters/divers?

    • @joshk2181
      @joshk2181 Рік тому +1

      same question. eclipse seems newb friendly too

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      I choose between prowler's / eclipse depending on whether their team comp has more melee or ranged threats!

    • @joshk2181
      @joshk2181 Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu with prowlers being the option for ranged for the gap close?

  • @KobeStorm
    @KobeStorm Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video! Maybe I missed it but thoughts on synergy with Milio? What tier would it be in the tierlist?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Milio is pretty bad with Nilah but a good pick against Nilah

  • @13laor
    @13laor Рік тому +2

    Who do you usually ban when playing nilah? What's your thoughts about nilah vs xayah? I find it to be a very hard matchup since xayah has insane range, root, big burst and dps, and her ultimate counters my ultimate.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      I always ban Xayah, the matchup is pretty impossible to play.

  • @RaphaelGuedes-db9eg
    @RaphaelGuedes-db9eg Рік тому +1

    In letha build for last item we go navori or something else ?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Depends on the game, if you need damage then Navori is the best choice, if not then just buy defensive items

  • @shinimasu7171
    @shinimasu7171 Рік тому +1

    hey could you update this video for the new item

  • @samira4459
    @samira4459 Рік тому +1

    do u think this could work on samira? i mean taking prowler or eclipse instead of shieldbow because item is pretty dogshit rn

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Not really, although both champions are similar in some ways, Nilah is very different and more versatile than Samira is because Nilah counts as a melee champion.

  • @josemariadriatico672
    @josemariadriatico672 Рік тому +1

    I see in your videos that you build zeal and not complete it immediately, what's the reason for that?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have a build/item guide video on the channel if you wanna check it out for more in-depth explanations

  • @javieroqueli1517
    @javieroqueli1517 Рік тому

    Thank you for your insight. I´ve been climbing with Nilah lately and I only spammed the Ravenous build but I will be trying out the lethality build in future games. Great content, new sub!

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching and have fun with the build!

    • @ronin3054
      @ronin3054 Рік тому

      how is it?

  • @jessejames6692
    @jessejames6692 Рік тому +1

    I see you building a zeal without upgrading it pretty early. Can you explain your thought process on rushing zeal?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I go more in detail in terms on builds in my other runes&item video if u wanna check it out, I also have channels in the discord dedicated to explaining builds

  • @toraokyori7427
    @toraokyori7427 Рік тому +1

    Have you ever try to play nilah in other lane ?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have! Also played Nilah top jg support on stream yesterday. She's definitely a niche pick in other roles but can be great in certain matchups like vs. Yasuo Mid or GP top, etc.

  • @bobbyboy900
    @bobbyboy900 Рік тому +1

    for the lethality build, do you ever go ingenious hunter secondary tree for the lower cooldown on eclipse/prowlers. Is it even worth it?

    • @Mirividual
      @Mirividual Рік тому +1

      he goes inspiration second with free boots and futures market

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Red tree isn't worth it anymore, inspiration tree is much more consistent and works well with the lethality playstyle

  • @Dani632100
    @Dani632100 Рік тому +1

    Do you still take bloodline after its nerf or is it still a most every game? It would make sense to take tenacity if the enemy team has a lot of cc instead.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I still take bloodline mainly bc I don't build lifesteal on Nilah until later on in the game with the lethality build.

  • @vensik4989
    @vensik4989 Рік тому +1

    Is there muchups when u shouldn't build lethality?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      When you have an enchanter and the enemy have a lot of champions that counter Nilah, you should probably go a more defensive build

  • @dommydagger9320
    @dommydagger9320 Рік тому +1

    whats full build? quickblades vs infinty edge?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have an items & runes guide on the channel if you wanna take a look at it

  • @terrariaexpert
    @terrariaexpert Рік тому +1

    Do you have any advice or a different build for Nilah top? Or just use the regular lethality build?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Prowler's isn't as effective for top Nilah, but you can still go Eclipse in most games into standard items!

    • @terrariaexpert
      @terrariaexpert Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu What do you think is a good second item to build after eclipse? And thank you so much for replying, absolutely love your nilah gameplay

  • @x2kuru
    @x2kuru Рік тому +1

    Hey, I picked up Nilah recently due to your wonderful vids. I was just wondering what the reason behind the early Zeal is? I think you didn't mention that in any video yet. :)

    • @boraguleryuz2915
      @boraguleryuz2915 Рік тому +1

      fr

    • @CoinFlipAhri
      @CoinFlipAhri Рік тому +1

      Zeal is instead of a boots upgrade, you get more ms than t2 boots+as, crit and ~5% armor pen

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Yep, like CoinFlipAhri said, zeal is just replacement for boots, Nilah doesn't need atk spd boots it's an overkill. You can build defensive boots instead if you need to upgrade it, zeal gives good stats for the price and a very effective early game item that works well with dirk.

    • @x2kuru
      @x2kuru Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu thank you man! Keep up the good work :)

  • @DemonShadowV2
    @DemonShadowV2 Рік тому +1

    I have some concerns about laning at lower elo (just got back from like a 3+ season retirement) silver 3 atm.
    When it comes to laning since I haven't fully limit tested with her when should I really try to take fights? I usually just wait til we have the level 6 advantage due to her passive but I'm also concerned I'm not taking the game into my own hands enough and trying to snowball. Not to mention I've had troll supports int cuz I wouldn't run at them lol.
    Being more direct does nilah have good kill potential lv 3 or 5? Or should I continue playing safe til 6 powerspike?

    • @wesmantooth32
      @wesmantooth32 Рік тому +1

      I have had a lot of supports that have no idea how to play with her, and it can make the pre-6 phase of laning very hard and frustrating. Try and convince your support to play an engage support if you want to fight early, otherwise I think you will be better off just trying to farm it out until you get your own agency.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      She has kill potential at lvl 3 and sometimes even lvl 2 depending on the matchup. I would definitely say try to test limits in normal games and get a feel of what you can do with the champion. After 100 games you kinda just know when you have enough damage or not to win a fight.

    • @DemonShadowV2
      @DemonShadowV2 Рік тому

      @Enryu thanks. I ran some ranked games after I posted that and swapped to the lethality build so I got a decent idea now. I'm at about 20 games on her now.

    • @DemonShadowV2
      @DemonShadowV2 Рік тому +1

      @@wesmantooth32 yeah i worked my way around it, i just need a support who knows what they doing in general. playing the enchanters who just hide 20 feet back or is an afk yuumi is what kills me x.x

  • @ya-den1400
    @ya-den1400 Рік тому +1

    What overlay app do you use??

  • @Honklu1980
    @Honklu1980 Рік тому +1

    Which runes would u recommend for this lethality build though? Still conquerer?

  • @jameskim3232
    @jameskim3232 Рік тому +1

    What would you recommend build and runes for nilah top? I think you might need the sustain more with shieldbow in that lane with tankiness, however do you think lethality would work too?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Basic Conqueror rune page is good, Grasp could also be an option

    • @jameskim3232
      @jameskim3232 Рік тому +1

      @@LoLEnryu how about the build? stick with lethality or more traditional crit in your opinion?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      @@jameskim3232 Most likely just Eclipse build, but honestly Sunderer could be an option as well, I will test it and make a video about sunderer if it's good

  • @Vandhita
    @Vandhita Рік тому +1

    i always thought the reason Nilah build hydra was because you need tiamat for the aoe to help farm early game, is this wrong then?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Yep, this is wrong. Nilah doesn't need Ravenous Hydra

  • @unzkipriime4283
    @unzkipriime4283 Рік тому +1

    im pretty much a beginner but this video has helped me so much on my journey so far, currently i always build: collector, boots, prowler, shieldbow and bloodthirster... any way to improve on that?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I think that build is fine, I also have more detailed item explanations in the discord if u wanna join and check that out

  • @00J-Tone
    @00J-Tone Рік тому +1

    What do you think of Navori being a staple? I havent tried the prowlers first item. I tend to go for bruiser lifesteal with shieldbow, bt, navori, pd and dd. I will definitely try out prowlers but it doesnt look like you have room for navori with all the pen your going for. Is there teams you would choose the fighter route instead of the assassin route?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I prefer Navori over IE in basically every game, it's just a really good item since a good part of Nilah's damage come from her abilities

  • @erekshigarn4022
    @erekshigarn4022 Рік тому +1

    I'm not confident enough to use prowler on Nilah, what would be the best other letality item on her ?

    • @celeste4034
      @celeste4034 Рік тому +1

      eclipse

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Eclipse, or you could try the beginner build that I mentioned in my runes and build video on this channel

  • @maciejczerklanski6731
    @maciejczerklanski6731 Рік тому +1

    When i should buy prowler and when eclipse?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have an item & rune guide on the channel as well as in the discord if you wanna check it out. But generally speaking, if enemy have a lot of ranged champions = prowler's. More melee = eclipse

  • @marsk8702
    @marsk8702 Рік тому +1

    What do you think the best build is for midlane nilah. I played her a couple of games and tried only the build from 핫초코로세계정복 (KR gm nilah main) which is the ravenous galeforce bt. Also need to try the build you showed.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I would say lethality build is still the ideal build for Mid Nilah, prowler's/eclipse gives really great utility and you can just build according to what the enemy have, for example if you're playing against a lot of AP you can go bloodthirster maw, etc.

    • @marsk8702
      @marsk8702 Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu Thank you will definitely try it out! great vids keep it up!

  • @jesus4945
    @jesus4945 Рік тому +1

    Do you always build Zeal early? If you do build it early, do you go for Durk first or Zeal? Really informative video! I'll definitely be trying out the E max tech.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I do end up building an early zeal in 90% of my games. Always dirk first though

  • @M3WappleZ
    @M3WappleZ Рік тому +1

    you mentioned NIlah is more of a burst adc, so u decided to build lethality. Wouldn't other runes work best compared to conquerors? maybe hail of blades?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Not really, she is a burst ADC but early game would be very difficult without Conqueror, the rune page is just perfect for Nilah as a melee champion. The Conq tree + inspiration tree is what makes the lethality build efficient. The red tree doesn't do much for Nilah and treasure hunter is too nerfed.

    • @M3WappleZ
      @M3WappleZ Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu ahhh ic, aite will definitely give this build a try thx 4 the reply :)

  • @RTE-Illusion
    @RTE-Illusion Рік тому +1

    Life steal nilah with yuumi on top is a nightmare. you cant kill her as long you dont have really long stuns. Sure doesn't burst as much but she dont have to simply by having so many shields and heals she can fight almost forever.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      This is quite untrue, if you don't do damage you can't lifesteal because lifesteal is based on a % of the damage you do. If you want to "fight forever" I would say Nilah isn't the best champ as she can get kited & cc'd very easily.

  • @davey_309
    @davey_309 Рік тому +6

    From my experience karma has been the only enchanter that's been really good with her but other than that I'd rather a pyke or naut

    • @teemo43
      @teemo43 11 місяців тому

      The best supp for her ist taric so far i know. Went 24/0/5. Killed the botlane plus jungler twice. Her engage plus taric ult is awesome.

  • @Junoh424
    @Junoh424 Рік тому +1

    What about why you choose prowler over galeforce?

    • @drinibuzali1289
      @drinibuzali1289 Рік тому +1

      cause lethality straight up superior and prowler reduces armor on the the target

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Both items have a dash but Prowler's is more damage

  • @lalosalamancaenjoyer3321
    @lalosalamancaenjoyer3321 Рік тому +2

    would like to see muramana on her or something like jaxs build

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Will make videos on other builds as well when I start streaming !

  • @Theedthree
    @Theedthree Рік тому +1

    Is there a mythic that you'd suggest if someone is trying the lethality build in low elo but is bad at remembering actives?

    • @drinibuzali1289
      @drinibuzali1289 Рік тому +1

      eclipse

    • @wesmantooth32
      @wesmantooth32 Рік тому +1

      I would say just keep going prowlers. I was the same way, but forcing myself to buy and use it was the only way to improve.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      You can keep trying Prowler's to get used to it or you could go the other build I recommended in the guide video

  • @osyrisking5437
    @osyrisking5437 Рік тому +2

    Nilah is like Pyke if instead of converting bonus health to AD, he converted bonus ad to health and bonus health to lethality, but still kept all 3 stats.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Jesus riot would go crazy for that one

  • @yagoperez6931
    @yagoperez6931 Рік тому +1

    How come no IE or Navori?

  • @nidonea7397
    @nidonea7397 Рік тому +1

    i think its important to take into consideration lethality scales. you will not have exactly 35 lethality after two items. assuming your lvl 10 or 11 after 2 items your will only have like 28 pen

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Agreed! But usually at 3 items you will have close to 90% of it

    • @nidonea7397
      @nidonea7397 Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu ive started playing with this build and it feels much better playing as an assasin than spamming life steal. also when should i sell my boots?

  • @shuuu9729
    @shuuu9729 Рік тому +1

    i notice u buy an early zeal and always end the game with it thoughts on why?

    • @CoinFlipAhri
      @CoinFlipAhri Рік тому

      more ms than tier2 boots, so you don't have to upgrade boots at all, + you get attack speed, crit, 5% armor pen

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have an items&runes guide video on this channel if you wanna take a look at it

  • @0BLACKESTFUN0
    @0BLACKESTFUN0 Рік тому +1

    i mean its to much also i like going prowlersclaw into crit items so there is no room for item with no crit

  • @juliocintron6524
    @juliocintron6524 Рік тому +1

    man i love nilah so freaking much, I got mastery 7 in like less than a month :3 Im just a little confused, what would be the complete build for lethality?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have a build&runes video on the channel as well as a channel in my discord dedicated to explaining the build!

  • @yaheem59
    @yaheem59 Рік тому +1

    @Enryu do you think you can coach me on a few games? Maybe upload as content.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Sorry I currently don't have time to coach

    • @yaheem59
      @yaheem59 Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu Maybe a vod review if you have time?

  • @dudeweresmyipod
    @dudeweresmyipod Рік тому +1

    Could this same logic apply to Samira?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Not really, I would say Samira is a way different champion than Nilah despite the similarities.

  • @jgcneves
    @jgcneves Рік тому +1

    What do you think of galeforce instead of prowlers?

    • @CoinFlipAhri
      @CoinFlipAhri Рік тому +1

      They have different uses, prowler is a good gap close to use your R, if you use gale this way it's just a wasted item potential

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I think that Prowler's is a better item than Galeforce, Prowler's has more damage and the dash is better with Nilah's kit

  • @sebastianrossetti6167
    @sebastianrossetti6167 Рік тому +1

    That's not how lethality works, it's not flat armor pen. The formula is armor_pen = lethality × 0.6 + 0.4 × champ_level ÷ 18. So at level 10, 40 lethality equals 24 armor pen only
    I like the build though

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      It's not that low, the formula is Flat Pen = Lethality × (0.6 + 0.4 × level ÷ 18)
      Which means (40 x (0.6 + (0.4 x 10 / 18))) = 40 x 0.82222 = 32.8 pen
      And bc Nilah has a passive that gives her extra EXP, her level scales better than most ADC champions, giving her a better synergy with lethality. I don't include the "full" formula in videos like this because most people don't really like seeing all the numbers. And extra 8 armor is basically just 2-5% dmg depending on how much armor they have, which I mentioned in the video that the % of damage you do varies, there's too many scenarios and I think a rough estimate is enough to showcase the build, but if we're talking exact numbers, 40 lethality doesn't just give 24 armoir pen at lvl 10.

  • @trongdanhnguyen4974
    @trongdanhnguyen4974 Рік тому +1

    thank you for sharing us Enryu

  • @kiyotsuna7657
    @kiyotsuna7657 Рік тому +1

    I love the content and the itemization, great work. Have you ever experienced first strike Nilah, if so, what are your thoughts?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have, it's pretty bad everywhere, even in the top lane because you will just lack the damage in early fights without the AD from conqueror

  • @santiagocanepa3637
    @santiagocanepa3637 Рік тому +1

    I wasn't really buying into this build, i was always playing lethal tempo with ravenous hydra. I tried this build and it's really good. legit on a 9 win streak lmao

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      That's what we like to hear

  • @ZachdotMiller
    @ZachdotMiller Рік тому +1

    I love your channel. Please keep making these vids :) I haven't played her yet, but she seems pretty similar to Samira. Is she viable in solo lanes or jg? Maybe not in your elo but lower ranks?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      She's definitely viable in the solo lane as well as jungle, I tested some of these on stream the other day. Definitely harder than ADC though since she is meant to be played in a duo lane.

    • @ZachdotMiller
      @ZachdotMiller Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu ooh, thanks. I'll have to try it out just for fun

  • @Mirividual
    @Mirividual Рік тому +1

    you ranked sejuani ivern and singed as supports but not renata, is she really really bad with nilah or something?

    • @bobalogo23jookol69
      @bobalogo23jookol69 Рік тому

      I probably think he just forgot.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Yeah renata's only good ability for Nilah is the revive, but at the same time if the enemy can kill Nilah once, it's extremely easy to kill her a second time faster.

  • @mrsl33py19
    @mrsl33py19 Рік тому +1

    İdk why but i have %70 percent wr in Nilah and i only played hydra.I love her damage in hydra is it Realy better in lethality?if it is i wana try that

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      You can try it for sure and see if you like the build

  • @DavidLin-n4l
    @DavidLin-n4l Рік тому +1

    full build?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      I have an items&runes guide video on this channel if you wanna take a look at it

  • @AkshayPrasadrocks
    @AkshayPrasadrocks Рік тому +1

    Nilah any good in solo lanes?

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Niche pick in top/mid/jg. Top is where ur probably most comfortable if not playing adc nilah, then mid, and jg is just kinda troll but it can work

  • @lushkiwi6493
    @lushkiwi6493 Рік тому +1

    Is divine sunderer a good item on her? I feel like the spellblade synergy is pretty good and the divine dmg can also be nice

    • @Xanplz
      @Xanplz Рік тому +1

      His other recommended build is Essence Reaver rush. ER into BT

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      The spellblade synergy is definitely nice and good against tanks but that's not really a build for bot lane Nilah, I would say Sunderer could be an option for top Nilah

  • @pedrodooxi1198
    @pedrodooxi1198 Рік тому

    hii, what app do you use to view the cooldown of ultimates ?

  • @jaycelee3551
    @jaycelee3551 Рік тому +1

    Both build are decent but still like to rush BE then BT which you recommend in previous video :D

  • @dango9626
    @dango9626 Рік тому +1

    At 3:05 you say:
    "...If someone has 100 armor, basically you are taking away 39% of that 100, then you're ... 40 flat armor, which leaves him with 21 armor..."
    This is incorrect. Lethality scales with levels, which is an additional reason for lethality to work better on nilah than on other adcs.
    In reality you would be reducing 40*0.6 = 24 armor. Plus 40 * 0.4 * level / 18. Only at level 18 you would be reducing the enemy's armor to 21.
    Good luck on the rift! :D

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      It's not that low, the formula is Flat Pen = Lethality × (0.6 + 0.4 × level ÷ 18)
      Which means (40 x (0.6 + (0.4 x 10 / 18))) = 40 x 0.82222 = 32.8 pen
      And bc Nilah has a passive that gives her extra EXP, her level scales better than most ADC champions, giving her a better synergy with lethality. I don't include the "full" formula in videos like this because most people don't really like seeing all the numbers. And extra 8 armor is basically just 2-5% dmg depending on how much armor they have, which I mentioned in the video that the % of damage you do varies, there's too many scenarios and I think a rough estimate is enough to showcase the build, but if we're talking exact numbers, 40 lethality doesn't just give 24 armoir pen at lvl 10.

    • @dango9626
      @dango9626 Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu Idk if you are gaslighting me on purpose or not. What you said was exactly what I said.
      Regarding the "rough estimate" I would argue that you should have presented that estimate for level 14 or something around that, when you have the three items you specified. But it's fine, I understand that.
      Also, in your example (level 10) the difference would most likely be 0.75%-2.5% not 2%-5%.

  • @oaklex4948
    @oaklex4948 Рік тому +1

    I don't
    Havent trusted it since it had it's active removed, however I have seen a Kayle make crazy work of it b4 🤔

  • @noname1247
    @noname1247 Рік тому +1

    very informative. I will forward that support tier list to my duo lol

  • @MrPideGY
    @MrPideGY Рік тому +1

    Can u make a video whit your thought process before/and in engrade. I would like to see a dozen clips and you just walk us through them whit both w, cleans, dash and ult. Because I fell like i do some really bad calls majority of the times. But when I see pros they really own simulare situation. It might be that i'm In a to low Ello and ppl are bad at peeling, but it's probably just me that are not that good at team fight. Mostly i win early game and make sure we get drake's. But at mid game i just start split push. because I always dies in team fights. But i win games this way I'm over a 60% winrate with her in like 19 games. And I can solo majority of enemies. I normally play top. But i fell that i lose to many games because my team will do bad calls so i lose games even when I'm 10.2 at like min 15 because enemy have all dragons and my team have no dmg. So i play nilah like a split push top. It's not optimal. Because I get one shorted if i walk through jungle when I need to ward 😑

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Got it! Will try to make a compilations of those clips, thank you for watching!

    • @MrPideGY
      @MrPideGY Рік тому

      @@LoLEnryu no, thank you for making awesome Content. You made me want to try out bot again. I'm a top main and have been in many years because i have always been struggling with range champs but everything seems right whit nilah ❤️ so thank you for opening that door

  • @Stylusknight
    @Stylusknight Рік тому +1

    I always go galeforce into collector

  • @filip380PL
    @filip380PL Рік тому +1

    WHAT'S THE FULL BILD ? LOL

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      If you like, you could check out the runes & builds guide video I have on this channel as well as the written guide in the discord!

  • @sejisen2346
    @sejisen2346 Рік тому +1

    Playing lethality build once and I can not go back to Shiledbow build.

  • @kiidrecklzz
    @kiidrecklzz Рік тому +1

    thanks for the vid bro. im learning

  • @mladziutkikacur
    @mladziutkikacur Рік тому +1

    As a Nilah main i agree
    Hydra makes your fights weaker if you dont fight in enemy minions or its 2-3 vs 2
    Nilah need crit af

  • @wesmantooth32
    @wesmantooth32 Рік тому +4

    You should show some dps numbers against dummies for a video like this. I was playing around with them a bit after being flamed for building Prowler's Claw to just make sure that the numbers were backing up how the build felt. Not only is your build path a lot cheaper than the standard, but as the armor increases so does the dps.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +3

      Yeah I could but honestly it's up to people to accept this as a build or not, it's really hard to convince people who are set on ravenous hydra and shieldbow as the only viable build. Eventually people might realize but those who don't even want to try the lethality build will not listen to numbers either

    • @GGiGotHydra
      @GGiGotHydra Рік тому

      I straight up have a post on Reddit why E ranks are better early over Q ranks tho there I state it's best to put 3 ranks to E and then max Q cause by the time you reach that level you start getting the crit items which start amping Q damage more than E ranks.

    • @wesmantooth32
      @wesmantooth32 Рік тому

      @@GGiGotHydra I still feel like the CD reduction in E is more valuable than the damage increase from Q. Getting an extra dash in a fight can be pretty huge.

  • @madmaxiemartialartsnerd485
    @madmaxiemartialartsnerd485 Рік тому +1

    We all know this but ravenous hydra is just a stupidly fun and satisfying item that hits the dopamine just right.

  • @TAHTAWYu64
    @TAHTAWYu64 Рік тому +1

    hey man really love your work, would love to see from content from you cheers king.

  • @gabrielchen7069
    @gabrielchen7069 Рік тому +1

    Hey man! Thanks for the vids :) been spamming Nilah xD I’m pretty bad but this was helpful

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      You'll improve for sure! It took me more than 50 games before I got used to playing Nilah

  • @Lirdynrae
    @Lirdynrae Рік тому +1

    Since you started uploading vids I build Nilah the safe way but after trying lethality I fell in love, the dmg output and outplay you can do is insane with 3-4 items
    I'm a Katarina main but I've been spamming Nilah on ranked and finally got out of silver ahahaha I hope I can get better at this champ :) love your videos

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching! Really appreciate the support

  • @willyumofearth
    @willyumofearth Рік тому +2

    this content is awesome; thank you so so much for the effort u put in! :)

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @hugoroussi5794
    @hugoroussi5794 Рік тому +1

    I always thought the ravenous hydra build was off. It was sooo expensive.

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      Yep!

    • @GGiGotHydra
      @GGiGotHydra Рік тому

      It was decent until they adjusted Nilah Q damage scaling to be more crit oriented and Rav was super insane.

  • @bandef9203
    @bandef9203 Рік тому +1

    U r right this is the best way to play nilah but accept nilah scaling enchanter is also very strong

  • @bloodcraver9183
    @bloodcraver9183 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting analysis
    the script could be shortened and the delivery could be a bit more animated
    editing also needs some improvements.
    Keep up the good work tho

  • @danieltheunissen4790
    @danieltheunissen4790 Рік тому +4

    Would like to see a Nilah W guide, think thats one of the most important aspects of her kit

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +3

      Her W is pretty simple, I would say I could definitely work on a 1-2 minute video talking abt it but basically just use it when you know that you are getting focused. Try not to use it for your teammates unless you know you need to save them with it

  • @wrathengine
    @wrathengine Рік тому +1

    I love ur build!

  • @kiyotsuna7657
    @kiyotsuna7657 Рік тому +1

    Lux didnt even make support tierlist LOL

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому

      All my homies hate lux support

  • @gamersworld4176
    @gamersworld4176 Рік тому +1

    new viewer here. hope to see more nilah and ashe gameplay from you

  • @VigilTheProtogen
    @VigilTheProtogen Рік тому +1

    Leveling up Q also gives bonus armor pen, on-enemy-champion-hit-lifesteal, and attack speed boost on Q hit. Only the armor pen is significantly useful for lethality Nilah and that stat is percentage based. So q max helps Nilah more in later stages of game when building lethality. Building crit, probably still Q max for attack speed? But I def will try e max

    • @Elephanthobo
      @Elephanthobo Рік тому +3

      None of those things scale with ranks in Q. ArPen & Lifesteal scale with crit, and the attack speed scales with level.
      As the vid said, the only useful thing in ranking Q past 1 is the ad scaling, which doesn't matter until later when you have more items

    • @LoLEnryu
      @LoLEnryu  Рік тому +1

      Yep, exactly what Louueys said, none of these things actually scale with Q, the only thing that Q max does is give you like 5 base dmg + 7.5% bonus AD dmg, which is really not that big of a difference in the early stages of the game.

    • @VigilTheProtogen
      @VigilTheProtogen Рік тому

      @@Elephanthobo I tried to read the wiki and could not extrapolate that info, big thanks!