Hi Dobby, you might have missed but at 6:22, after the trade with Singed and K'Sante, he uses his W on the minion instead to fast kill it and get lvl 6 so that he can heal and use Ult to try and kill K'sante.
This build has always been the build for Volibear, EXCEPT, for one thing, which separates Thisisbear from every other volibear. Every Volibear who goes this build always mistakenly builds Nashor's tooth 1st or 2nd (me included). And that's their biggest mistake. I have noticed that throughout the video, Thisisbear has never built Nashors once and has instead rushed hullbreaker then a tanky item. This is vital to deciding how much volibear can apply pressure sidelaning, while 1v2 or 1v3. On first glance, Nashors looks amazing, and obviously so, cause of how well it synergizes with volibear's AA and LT stacking. But the problem with that item is that it makes you so squishy, that any 1v2 or 1v3s become impossible to win. Without resistances, volibear cant even hope to stack LT or Empowered W. That isn't to say full Ap voli is bad, its just that once you build nashors, you become limited to 1v1s only and pushing towers with huge risk of dying to 1v2+. So Full Ap Voli is a low elo stomper, but thisisbear's build is much much better for higher levels of play. And with this new found knowledge, I shall use it to climb 😈 Thanks Dobby for another informative video!
Like most of the melee dashless champions, your kit has a lot of dmg by itself, so 1st and 2nd item with defensive stats lets you survive getting to the opponent allowing your kit to do the rest. (Surviving till you get 2nd skill rotation >>> Building to Nuke someone in All In)
whether it's a good or bad thing, I feel like Voli is in the Ez and Udyr category. Every time I see a new volibear build it's entirely different from the last one and just as viable. Wild champs
I mean i love how some champions can build whatever they like and it still works ... shaco katarina shivana udyr voli kog ect... even rengar to some extent (we got a tank rengar in worlds finals a few years back if i remeber properly)
Things i noticed: When XinZhao engages on him at min 4:15 he saves his Q to the last second because he knows he wins the all-in. So, if he throws it at start of combo, (usually it's the most optimal because you secure the E dmg and can add the W on top of the animation ) then Xin Zhao can just walk or flash away and leave. Instead he saves the Q for 2 reassons, first to kill Xin Zhao in the Stun, so he can't leave. And seconds to do more dmg since you usually have the Last Stand runes that makes you deal more dmg the lower your heal is. So you have to chose between throw everything at first and quite for cooldowns if you know you can have another rotation, or just save it for the last moment to deal the maximum possible dmg. This dude is so insane at it. He knows exactly that if he throws the W at first, he will have one more W at the end of the all-in, but he dosnt do it with Q (because cd is bigger). Also he so good using ultimate to buffers cc. For ejemple if Jax press E and jumps on you to insta stun you, you can use ultimate so the time of the stun and the time you are jumping is the same, so you don't lose any time stuned.
I noticed too, and I do the same. I’m the most aggressive player on the planet, and I always hold both e and q and dance/disrespect to bait them to keep fighting, then I e first and WAIT, (I have watched trick2g and 100 other players do this incorrectly) you have towait such a long time the kill is secured during stun. So they don’t flash away especially under turret. So I spam w e q, and when the enemy is within lethal, I kill through the element of surprise. I have killed god knows how many jungles this way. This guy is 1000x better than me, but that gimmick, I have that figured out perfectly.
My play style is very diferent. I usually play to extend to the maximum the fights. For example instead of do the E Q Ulti combo i use the habilities to run and way for my W cd. For example E for slow and shield, Q to run away and Ulti to run away. I don't build any AP, i build full tank max cdr. So for example instead of ult the enemy to deal 400+ dmg. I ult away to get back my W and heal for 400+ heal and deal 200+ dmg. So i end up winning 200 dmg on that trade off. Ofc depends in the situation, enemy cds, hp left of both, etc. But i like keeping alive under 35% hp all the time i can so i can deal insane dmg with last stand, graps, sunfire and frozen guantelet.
@@shadowcraftplayer9075 I see, I feel like the real victory lies in noticing the openings and angles of plays, knowing your limits. Like holding q, or knowing when to engage/disengage
I've done this Volibear thing last week, beat laning phase, build AP, going split push but not doing so well as in the late game, hopefully this video helps for me
@@moonage_ You die in a matter of seconds in the late game teamfights. Volibear isn't tanky in general and with this build you basically have no resists outside of sidelane until 3 items. This is a god like split push build, but you're kind of useless in a fair team fights until about 4 items, which is like 30 minutes. Even this player usually TPs to team fights to clear them out or gets to them before the fight to get a pick. He tries to avoid fair straight up 5v5 as much as possible.
@@LuckyGnom regular tank or bruiser voli is also bad in late game teamfights. his Q and W are single-target, his shield isnt as durable as other juggernauts, and his ult has a low AoE. atleast with AP you scale as a split pusher.
What I finally understood after watching all of these vids, is any champion can make you chall if you master it, instead of trying all these builds whenever vid releases you should either pick one to follow trough or find your own, got from low plat to d1 with xin top from this channel. Thanks!
That's true, but people build wrong without knowing it. I built Nashor's on Voli for ages and I knew that I was squishy as hell but kept along with it since it's the popular build and he does stupid damage if he doesn't get CC'ed into oblivion. Videos like this make me realize that my gut instinct was right and I should stop building it and go more tanky for a more reliable build.
10:35 "Still, the build is somewhat glass cannon" Items - Riftmaker, Hullbreaker, Mercury threads = 20 armor, 35 magic resistance, 700 bonus hp from items, 9% omnivamp Volibear ablities - w = 20+8% of missing hp - 80 +20% missing hp (depending on rank) e = 14% max hp + 0,75% ap shield = 472 shield during ult. r = 350 hp So if there isn't a teammate in sight he has ALOT of defensive stats. But if there are teammates the defensives are reduced. Although I would never say that build is somewhat of a glass cannon. In my opinion that's like saying the pyramids are somewhat as durable as sugar in the rain.
Honestly, ranged toplaners aren't nearly as big of an annoyance nowadays as they used to be. They're pretty easy to deal with and aren't even that oppressive in lane with the abundance of ways to counter them. Specific counterpicks are still awful to deal with, but that's irrelevant of range.
@@distraction2803yeah but it's annoying when they chip down your hp while they're being safe,then they make you unable to play the game,which is very frustrating for average toplaner,you want to play the game but you just can't because you'll either die or be on low hp majority of laning phase
@@overstimulatedboy01 start dshield+second wind and rush steelcaps (and warden's if you want to be doubly safe), and suddenly they're the one that can't play the game. Bruisers can just close the gap and kill them if they ever overstep and snowball like crazy, and tanks are near impossible for them to kill and get a free pass to scale into late game.
@@distraction2803 yeah right that's so irrelevant of range that thoses ranges dominate the meta winrate wise. Before they used to be skill reliant and that's why they had such a low winrate, but now riot has made either their kit/runes/items broken which made them easy to play and still completly broken, it's like how can you ever say that when a cassio has no problem winning melee agaisnt any melee character when she has the advantage of range ? the reality is that ranges top have never ever been that broken and that's why they start to be played in competitive (e.g : cassio, quinn, swain, kennen, gnar, jayce) we never had such a variety of range top, it used to be only gnar kennen and jayce and the only reason they're not more played is because other ranged character (marksman) dominate again the meta so tanks have to be played top in order to compensate for a marksman adc + otften a marksman/hyper carry mid.
@@sogeking_479 It's unwinnable in the late game since Teemo Q has no cd and the duration is extended. In the early game it's also a horrible matchup since he just kites you so hard, but in the mid game it's at least a semi winnable matchup since Teemo can't Q your W you can bait him to use his Q and if it's down you can win trades pretty hard (if you have frozen gauntlet).
Good idea for some matchups, I usually rush it against Irelia to win early 1v1 and put her behind, or against some tanks like orn. But if you are maxing W never rush it, just go hull for the hp and ad W scalings
Funny someone tried this exact build against me a few days ago and even got his jungle to camp him. Only problem was he wasn't great at wave control so we just beat him through better macro
What bothers me about Voli is that all of his spells take some time to be used or be strong. Passive needs full stacks First W is kinda useless E has a long windup and is easily dodged by enemies R has long windup And in addition to that he also feels very squishy compared to other toplaners. Maybe its just not my Champ and I suck at him
Meme ap volibear? That's by far his best build, the Tank one is meme since he doesn't tank anything and dies rather fast when fully build tank. Go second item nashors tooth to apply extra ap with that legendary first item and then build tank items that give ap, congratulations, you can now 3v1 even when behind. Press the attack is also really strong with the build.
Thisisbear's build)
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안녕 dobby, 금에서 빠져나오려면 어떻게 해야 해?
Hi Dobby, you might have missed but at 6:22, after the trade with Singed and K'Sante, he uses his W on the minion instead to fast kill it and get lvl 6 so that he can heal and use Ult to try and kill K'sante.
i use this build since last year and it works so well
This build has always been the build for Volibear, EXCEPT, for one thing, which separates Thisisbear from every other volibear.
Every Volibear who goes this build always mistakenly builds Nashor's tooth 1st or 2nd (me included).
And that's their biggest mistake.
I have noticed that throughout the video, Thisisbear has never built Nashors once and has instead rushed hullbreaker then a tanky item.
This is vital to deciding how much volibear can apply pressure sidelaning, while 1v2 or 1v3.
On first glance, Nashors looks amazing, and obviously so, cause of how well it synergizes with volibear's AA and LT stacking.
But the problem with that item is that it makes you so squishy, that any 1v2 or 1v3s become impossible to win. Without resistances, volibear cant even hope to stack LT or Empowered W.
That isn't to say full Ap voli is bad, its just that once you build nashors, you become limited to 1v1s only and pushing towers with huge risk of dying to 1v2+.
So Full Ap Voli is a low elo stomper, but thisisbear's build is much much better for higher levels of play.
And with this new found knowledge, I shall use it to climb 😈
Thanks Dobby for another informative video!
nice comment good boy
bear*
@@UnusGrunus good boy 💀
@@UnusGrunus Why did your phone autocorrect to that? 🤨
Like most of the melee dashless champions, your kit has a lot of dmg by itself, so 1st and 2nd item with defensive stats lets you survive getting to the opponent allowing your kit to do the rest.
(Surviving till you get 2nd skill rotation >>> Building to Nuke someone in All In)
Dobby and happychime are what make league fun to me
Same.
Totally agree
id say dobby is, happychime basically just makes videos so people can ruin other peoples games in ranked (cus theyre NOT that guy)
Agreeeee
@@Mothsune They literally do the same thing.
whether it's a good or bad thing, I feel like Voli is in the Ez and Udyr category. Every time I see a new volibear build it's entirely different from the last one and just as viable. Wild champs
Shyvana too however no one knows that
@@Hallorenzonot to these 3 champs' extend but yeah,we can say that
You can build full tank, full ap, ap bruiser, ad bruiser, full ad and on hit@@overstimulatedboy01
I mean i love how some champions can build whatever they like and it still works ... shaco katarina shivana udyr voli kog ect... even rengar to some extent (we got a tank rengar in worlds finals a few years back if i remeber properly)
Katarina 😂
Things i noticed:
When XinZhao engages on him at min 4:15 he saves his Q to the last second because he knows he wins the all-in. So, if he throws it at start of combo, (usually it's the most optimal because you secure the E dmg and can add the W on top of the animation ) then Xin Zhao can just walk or flash away and leave. Instead he saves the Q for 2 reassons, first to kill Xin Zhao in the Stun, so he can't leave. And seconds to do more dmg since you usually have the Last Stand runes that makes you deal more dmg the lower your heal is. So you have to chose between throw everything at first and quite for cooldowns if you know you can have another rotation, or just save it for the last moment to deal the maximum possible dmg.
This dude is so insane at it. He knows exactly that if he throws the W at first, he will have one more W at the end of the all-in, but he dosnt do it with Q (because cd is bigger).
Also he so good using ultimate to buffers cc. For ejemple if Jax press E and jumps on you to insta stun you, you can use ultimate so the time of the stun and the time you are jumping is the same, so you don't lose any time stuned.
I noticed too, and I do the same. I’m the most aggressive player on the planet, and I always hold both e and q and dance/disrespect to bait them to keep fighting, then I e first and WAIT, (I have watched trick2g and 100 other players do this incorrectly) you have towait such a long time the kill is secured during stun. So they don’t flash away especially under turret.
So I spam w e q, and when the enemy is within lethal, I kill through the element of surprise. I have killed god knows how many jungles this way. This guy is 1000x better than me, but that gimmick, I have that figured out perfectly.
My play style is very diferent. I usually play to extend to the maximum the fights. For example instead of do the E Q Ulti combo i use the habilities to run and way for my W cd. For example E for slow and shield, Q to run away and Ulti to run away.
I don't build any AP, i build full tank max cdr.
So for example instead of ult the enemy to deal 400+ dmg. I ult away to get back my W and heal for 400+ heal and deal 200+ dmg. So i end up winning 200 dmg on that trade off. Ofc depends in the situation, enemy cds, hp left of both, etc. But i like keeping alive under 35% hp all the time i can so i can deal insane dmg with last stand, graps, sunfire and frozen guantelet.
@@shadowcraftplayer9075 I see, I feel like the real victory lies in noticing the openings and angles of plays, knowing your limits. Like holding q, or knowing when to engage/disengage
Trick2g's voil build baby
I've done this Volibear thing last week, beat laning phase, build AP, going split push but not doing so well as in the late game, hopefully this video helps for me
I think you get melted lategame vs enemy carries if you're AP no?
@@moonage_ with hard cc too, its not going to be fun so yes
Also avoid 1v5 :))
@@moonage_ You die in a matter of seconds in the late game teamfights. Volibear isn't tanky in general and with this build you basically have no resists outside of sidelane until 3 items. This is a god like split push build, but you're kind of useless in a fair team fights until about 4 items, which is like 30 minutes. Even this player usually TPs to team fights to clear them out or gets to them before the fight to get a pick. He tries to avoid fair straight up 5v5 as much as possible.
@@LuckyGnom regular tank or bruiser voli is also bad in late game teamfights. his Q and W are single-target, his shield isnt as durable as other juggernauts, and his ult has a low AoE.
atleast with AP you scale as a split pusher.
Lol dobby with only quality content to learn from. I've learned so much insight thanks to you
Same things you would've learned if you would play more and better
@@AW2111A Sure hope you feel better now that you said that, friendo. Good luck on the rift.
@@AW2111A Toxic for no reason... sad irl
@@AW2111AReally? And?
@@AW2111A just play better 5head
Finally, a volibear tips and trick video.. now my Prestige duality skin has purpose
Haha me too 🤭
as a volibear player so infoed video nice job!
i think you reached perfection with your videos, i can't get tired of watching them, so well made gj
What I finally understood after watching all of these vids, is any champion can make you chall if you master it, instead of trying all these builds whenever vid releases you should either pick one to follow trough or find your own, got from low plat to d1 with xin top from this channel. Thanks!
That's true, but people build wrong without knowing it. I built Nashor's on Voli for ages and I knew that I was squishy as hell but kept along with it since it's the popular build and he does stupid damage if he doesn't get CC'ed into oblivion. Videos like this make me realize that my gut instinct was right and I should stop building it and go more tanky for a more reliable build.
0:23 that flying kaisa was so funny lmao
Volibear has been decent ever since his buffs a few patches ago. It’s just that not a lot of people cared or don’t know his limits well enough hahaha
I've been a Voli main since the rework and I'm very satisfied with what he's capable of rn. I hope they don't nerf him back to unplayable :/
I went from plat 3 to d2 in 2 week playing voli top, the bear is nuts
@@vincenzochetta8416ap or tank
@@vincenzochetta8416shhhh keep it low! Don't let others know 😂
10:35 "Still, the build is somewhat glass cannon"
Items - Riftmaker, Hullbreaker, Mercury threads =
20 armor, 35 magic resistance, 700 bonus hp from items, 9% omnivamp
Volibear ablities -
w = 20+8% of missing hp - 80 +20% missing hp (depending on rank)
e = 14% max hp + 0,75% ap shield = 472 shield during ult.
r = 350 hp
So if there isn't a teammate in sight he has ALOT of defensive stats.
But if there are teammates the defensives are reduced.
Although I would never say that build is somewhat of a glass cannon.
In my opinion that's like saying the pyramids are somewhat as durable
as sugar in the rain.
trick2g was been doing this since he was born fr
Dude, you explain his mind so well. Yhank you, really good videos!
The amount of ranged top is really alarming over there huh
Honestly, ranged toplaners aren't nearly as big of an annoyance nowadays as they used to be. They're pretty easy to deal with and aren't even that oppressive in lane with the abundance of ways to counter them.
Specific counterpicks are still awful to deal with, but that's irrelevant of range.
@@distraction2803yeah but it's annoying when they chip down your hp while they're being safe,then they make you unable to play the game,which is very frustrating for average toplaner,you want to play the game but you just can't because you'll either die or be on low hp majority of laning phase
@@overstimulatedboy01 start dshield+second wind and rush steelcaps (and warden's if you want to be doubly safe), and suddenly they're the one that can't play the game.
Bruisers can just close the gap and kill them if they ever overstep and snowball like crazy, and tanks are near impossible for them to kill and get a free pass to scale into late game.
@@distraction2803 yeah right that's so irrelevant of range that thoses ranges dominate the meta winrate wise. Before they used to be skill reliant and that's why they had such a low winrate, but now riot has made either their kit/runes/items broken which made them easy to play and still completly broken, it's like how can you ever say that when a cassio has no problem winning melee agaisnt any melee character when she has the advantage of range ? the reality is that ranges top have never ever been that broken and that's why they start to be played in competitive (e.g : cassio, quinn, swain, kennen, gnar, jayce) we never had such a variety of range top, it used to be only gnar kennen and jayce and the only reason they're not more played is because other ranged character (marksman) dominate again the meta so tanks have to be played top in order to compensate for a marksman adc + otften a marksman/hyper carry mid.
yeah that build is crazy
yesterday there was a voli with this build and runes plus he has hull breaker
trust me he was literally winning 1 vs 3
Its not because of the AP, its because of the BEAR.
The Jax matchup is unwinnable in the late game but in the early game your E is really strong against Jax.
The Timo matchup is also unwinnable
@@sogeking_479 It's unwinnable in the late game since Teemo Q has no cd and the duration is extended. In the early game it's also a horrible matchup since he just kites you so hard, but in the mid game it's at least a semi winnable matchup since Teemo can't Q your W you can bait him to use his Q and if it's down you can win trades pretty hard (if you have frozen gauntlet).
the other way around for me jax early if he is good can't allow you to trade him back but once you tank he can't kill you or bully you anymore
This is not a meme. This is a build path for burst damage. Real
He also uses Q and W to hide animation of E
That's good point
becareful on enemies who have dorans shield btw
voli's passive will keep procing it, allowing them to basically get free sustain from it
Hi, nice video, do you think you could do a video on Nasus?
and now i'm gonna see him in every game! thanks x_x
11:34 Didint know volibear was a minor
I’ve been using lethal tempo with rift, blade of the ruined king and nashars for mo the and it’s been amazing!
Highly recommend it
i just tried it, it was insane
This guy plays Voli so insanly good. Fun and kinda unique. Loved this vid
Iceborn + Cosmic Drive with Lethal Tempo is also an insane build trust
Trick2g being doing this for years
5:39 his R also has AP scaling dealing physical damage
Just in case...
Dude I just want to leave my League of legends addiction but I still watch guides and news😢
" The immobile mages are walking wallets". Didn't have to do them like that hahahahaha
Old man Trick2g has been doing this ever since the items rework. 🥴
When I tried this build last year I was suprised how op this is and why nobody plays it
Love these vids
0:32 "no u" moment
2:18 what was that ??? He outplayed
last 2 builds have literally just been trick2g if he was born on the korean server lol
This is not a meme build? I've been doing the same with grasp and it works, it's because of his passive and his W heal +E %damage...
welp here comes all the vollibears in my ranked games now
end of Dobby videos be like counters: Jax
8:45 this more a major misplay by both enemies. He doesn't outplay them or make decisions that make this scene strong.
0:32 Mess with the bear...
No mid game and late game analysis? Like how he plays the teamfights? does he split push or not?
Only split, he builds hullbreaker,
Trick2G: "That's my dawg!", proudly.
this thrash is still op af when will this nerf this
They must've forgot, El Truco
Rift maker buff, nashor buff, Hull breaker buff and finally volibear passive ap buff. The stars have aligned for us, now we must spam ap volibear.
Very informative, ty
0:32
Did that Kai'sa really just flash in place?
The attack speed the damage the tank everything is great with ap voli
i like this build since it remindes me of the old gunblade voli good old times
i actually play a lot voli AP in mid.
It's easier to execute this strategy using fleet footwork and timing the speed and Q for a guaranteed stun
This guy is nuts at voli though let's be honest lol
Don't let your memes, be dreams
Dobby for the last 15 videos "counters: jax"
Is it a good idea to build nashors on volibear if I want some extra damage or skip it and go hullbreaker instead?
Good idea for some matchups, I usually rush it against Irelia to win early 1v1 and put her behind, or against some tanks like orn.
But if you are maxing W never rush it, just go hull for the hp and ad W scalings
Thanks really helpful
I truly believe AP voli is the stronger variant
It's like the only lane that has build variety are all toplanes
I was ww jungle in a bronze game and I was against this voli top. It was unreal it shredded top in no time :(
i don't think riftmaker into an AD item then full tank is an ap build, its more hybrid or just tank voli.
This guy is really good. I have 2.5 million points in Voli.. but this guys plays supposed me.
Gauntlet, nashors feels super strong too
Trick has been doing this for ages
The real star is hullbreaker, love the item, I hope they don't nerf it
Finally, been looking forward to Baus going 0/10 on voli for some time.
Can i use Udyr to out-sustain Volibear?
Not only ThisisBear Using that Meme Build, Trick2g Does it, When Breaching the Gates
my secret ap voli is getting more and more popular damn
Trick2g walk so this guy can run.
Honestly, ap volibear is crazy in ganks. I just q flash then e, theyre dead. If not enough, i throw in the ult to be extra sure.
i always go riftmaker on voli, it just makes sence for hybrid dmg tank juggernaut mage like voli xd
Hilarious how AP voli is what I go 99% of the time, the other 1% is when I tried ad bruiser/tank voli. I like AP better still.
Seems like the Koreans are finally picking up on the El Truco strat
just sayin, this will be strong again
Funny someone tried this exact build against me a few days ago and even got his jungle to camp him. Only problem was he wasn't great at wave control so we just beat him through better macro
Do anyone miss the old Volibear? I used to play that Volibear alot. But after update is just not my taste anymore ..
Omg that’s volibear that looks nothing like what I got on my team.
Voli is overstat imo, great video nonetheless
Now everyone is gonna int toplane with Voli.
Thanks Mr.Dobby for letting us gain LP we don't deserve :D
i got Destryoed by this two times in my last 2 games. This is Scary
Since when was voli ap meme? There is 1 otp voli in Brasil wich spams this build always I think xd
trick2g builds in korea
Despite building 3 tanks items ontop of two damage item and still considered glass canon. LMAO, Riot needs to fix their game.
i love you dobby
So i've been playing the bear wrong, I rushed Nashors and started W lmao even then I have 60+% wr wild (elo high diamond)
thanks to u my pick is now not viable anymore.... ppl picking my voli now been doing it for weeks..
What bothers me about Voli is that all of his spells take some time to be used or be strong.
Passive needs full stacks
First W is kinda useless
E has a long windup and is easily dodged by enemies
R has long windup
And in addition to that he also feels very squishy compared to other toplaners. Maybe its just not my Champ and I suck at him
All perfect for fighter playstyle,what are you on,you want him to be Kha?
@@overstimulatedboy01 He wants him to be like an old Volibear, which relied on his autos and bites most of the time.
Good early good late.. so, just like pantheon.
frozen heart riftmaker, that's just my azir build
Thisisfire ornn when
Yet again trick2g has already been doing this
is AP voli really that new their, cause trick2g do it alot
Os gringola descobrindo só hoje oq o Joseph faz a anos 🥶
eu tava esperando ver alguem falando do Joseph
Unfortunately as the BearBarian, I've learned basically nothing here.
But everything is true and yea, I ban jax when I play Volibear top
Meme ap volibear? That's by far his best build, the Tank one is meme since he doesn't tank anything and dies rather fast when fully build tank.
Go second item nashors tooth to apply extra ap with that legendary first item and then build tank items that give ap, congratulations, you can now 3v1 even when behind. Press the attack is also really strong with the build.
DMG Season 2021+ 2022 +2023 and now 2024.. you can do all you want and having dmg. their no roles anymore.