Deb Armstrong, thank you to you and Bobby for this very informative tutorial of short radius turn etiquette. The physical descriptions, the technical descriptions, and the step by step specific instructions on how to make this turn correctly. If we all had started 30+ years ago with these very well articulated instructions, we wouldn't have spent decades skiing incorrectly. We pick up so many bad habits, too fast, what we see in movies, versus just good basic dedicated technique. To you and Bobby thank you very much. "It doesn't have to be fast, it just has to be good".
TY for making a series on mogul skiing. There are lots of misconceptions floating around on this type of skiing. Kudos for having B Aldighieri to dispel some them and more importantly explain some of the mechanics in skiing the zipper line. Aldighieri is a legend, he has about done it all in this sport.
5:49 to 5:57 on video the pole plants are being made somewhat close to the ski tips. Pole taps or pole plants to close to the ski tip instead of down the hill will make it harder to keep the body square to the hill. The more the skis are angled across the fall line the more important to plant the pole down the hill & not @ the ski tip to hold counter through the turn.
Deb and Bobby - Thank you! Seems to me that you teach fundamentals of skiing which are so important everywhere on the mountain. Not just moguls. I've watched most of your videos and I believe they've helped me become a better skier and better skiers have more fun! I'll keep watching! Ski Sugarbush ;)
Awesome. In each of Deb's videos I find some new useful tip to apply or drill to work on. Bobby is such a good skier he can't really fake being bad :-)
I like the term “foot to foot skiing.” That’s a good way to remember the technique. Videoing him from behind and slowing it down was extremely helpful. Heading to Park City in a few days, I’m going to watch this video multiple times before I go.
Hi Deb, I'm so excited about this video! It turned the light on in my brain instantly and learn I learned a tremendous amount from such a short video! Bobby showing right and wrong said so much! Thanks, Barry
Fantastic Deb and Bobby. Just love the way you guys break it down and how Deb just asked the the right questions too Bobby. Big thumbs up from England 👍
Deb - love your channel and videos, some of the clearest and easiest to follow ski instruction videos ever seen online and i have been involved in the industry for over 10 years! Would love to get this content out in front of our client base!
This is all the about learning the non-intuitive stuff which you don't know it's right (feels right) until you actually do it. Good stuff! Start with the brain and work your way down. Thanks, Deb!
I love your lessons. You have such a nice way of giving helpful advice without making me feel dumb or weak. I'm going on a ski trip in two weeks and will definitely be using your techniques. Thanks!
This is a great follow up lesson to your inside leg video and first mogul video with Bobby. I really like the way the idea of making short radius turns on the flats was employed and emphasized. You got to practice the way you want to ski. Drills build skills. Thanks for your great work and video instructions.
Deb...absolutely terrific stuff. Thank you for asking Bobby to be a part of your instruction/channel. The complete, detailed instructions and description are fantastic. I was reminded of when people/instructor would say "complete" your turn -- to me, what does that mean? As a former collegiate athlete and D1 coach (different sport, of course), but a late starting, high-intermediate level skier, I always ask a lot of questions. It is easy to tell someone to complete an action, but it is difficult to describe the initiation of an action and the reasons thereof. Thank you again.
Hey Deb and Bobby, I've been watching your mogul videos. I love the technical description and thanks to your videos, I've been improving a lot this year. I Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec areas.
Thanks for posting these videos and the effort you put into making them. They really help and are a great resource for learning. Thanks so much...one day one day I'll be there :)
So few seem to understand the key part of turn initiation is uphill ski / uphill edge pressure. Smooth, powerful, connected, balanced, and can be done very quickly if needed (old school we called that “up unweight”). Also great description of core activation in turns. Enjoyed - thanks!
Have been binge watching your videos, Deb. 1st of season was promising but lack of fresh snow (Red Lodge Mtn) has made me an arm chair skier lately. Pinch the grape will be my new mantra..
I am so happy that you mation lifting what will become new outside ski. I like this technic it make skis turn really quick and clearly without any problem. And it helps in bomps and moguls.
Aloha Deb, You inspired me in the Olympics! Happy to see you connected with my former US teammate and Olympian Bobby. He is a great coach because he is super passionate about skiing and cares about the athletes he coaches. Please give him my best. In the words of our former US Ski Team coach Park Smalley, "Keep on keeping on!" Maggie
Finally! A coach which finally emphasizes the importance of early weight transfer onto the uphill ski. Thank you! Could you make a followup video about how to smear the skiis to ski in moguls or tight corridors? Lots of videos about pivot slips on the internet but not many go into the detail about how to flatten the skiis and weight distribution between the feet at the different points in the turn.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Yup. I've watched all your videos! You're one of the few coaches that explain the concept of inside leg and foot to foot transfer really well.
Deb, Dadou and Alain @ TSV have both been teaching to initiate turns with rotation of the inside ski off the spine and "allowing" the outside ski to follow it. I find it a novel concept and very effective alternative movement. BTW, it was wonderful meeting you at the women's ski week. Your groups were all over the mountain and having a lot of fun!
I don't like that way of explaining It. I would say It's a rather poor pick as an analogy, when you do that "grape pinching" It leads to the spine being bent laterally. This is not what our spine is biomechanically designed for, It can cause issues on the long run putting our vertabrae on a weak position to deal with sudden forces hitting us, like when skiing bumps. Having the lats engaged and good leg turning creates a stronger and more functional position due to respecting physiological movement of the spine and maintaining a better overall alignment.
Step on your uphill ski - love that to explain the initiation of the ski - (Will be practicing this weekend - while I teach a 4 year old - (Hands on his knees - to push into his next turn) - Love it Deb - had to Applaud ya because long time - first time :)
This is how I learned, body facing down the fall line and "foot to foot" and new downhill ski, coupled with stable traverse and side slipping techniques when required.. I am still not getting the advice for 60:40 downhill ski:upper ski; seems contrary to this. Guess I will stick to this rather than worry about my uphill ski; seems to work and seems a foundation for mogul skiing. There is hope.😍
See that video first time, so my comment is a bit late 😉 Bobby is great. But he tricks a little bit at 3:14 min. After changing the leg he pulls the inside foot towards the outside leg. It‘s just a real small movement, but it obviates to fall inside especially with the hip. This makes the early load change to the new outside foot much easier. It is no mistake (of course), but it helps 😉 My opinion: to learn the early load change, a skier should learn how to adept the upper body to the gradient first. Because in my opinion this is the main aspect for average skiers to be balanced enough to learn an early load change. If we talk about experts, no question, you‘re definitely right.
Interesting information in the two videos with BA, with him speaking about not being very "edgy" with more smearing turns, but in the fundamentals video, he is demonstrating that "pinch" turn that engages quite a bit of edge. I'll practice in the groomers to find the right balance between the two.
Also, there is a lot of engagement of the Quads, adductors and abductors. The tight stance thru the bumps works best as compared to a more open parallel stance. Fitness is key !
This was awesome. I'm a yoga instructor and skier, and this actually ties together yoga concepts with skiing - particularly core engagement, using obliques, and proper vertical stacking - upper body positioning. Great stuff.
but I believe (I am not an expert) that in the short-radius curve there is also a hip rotation transferred to the ski to facilitate the rhythm/speed of the curv-ing(?) and not just/only a transfer of weight from downhill to the other ski (i.e. outside ski in the curve), or am I wrong? Said so, the upper body position is essential to avoid loss of balance (which is my biggest problem in general)
My biggest problem in close packed moguls is getting onto the uphill edge before the bottom trough of the mogul. Usually I hold the lower ski and eat the second mogul because once in the trench there is no room (or time) to get the uphill ski flexing into the turn. Maybe I should go with a shorter (than 180’s) ski. Multi turns at high speed on flat are just what I do for leg conditioning.
It is quirky that the term “square” means the opposite whether referring to the skis or the fall line. Consequently, a ski pro should always clarify their use of the term, square. Also, in the case of alpine skiing, square means parallel rather than perpendicular which may further confuse clients. So, are we square?
Good video. You should do one on kid/dad jokes. I use them in every lesson but after a while my kids have heard them all. The true measure of a good ski instructor is how many silly jokes they have lol
I have been skiing bumps for over 45 years and continue to love big soft snow covered bumps now that I get annual month long ski trips to the mountains of B.C. Since my earlier days of zipper line bump skiing and staying square, balanced and level, all of the verbs(?) you used to describe how to zipper line a bump run, how about now when my radius is a bit wider and yes 90 degrees to the fall line to maintain speed on the extreme pitches. How can you possibly stay square to the fall line? If you are doing a 3 (or 4) bump wide line I dont believe you can stay square to the fall line but only square to your skis coupled with correct weight transfer. Is this a bad thing or am I not hearing you correctly? Fall line bump skiing is great for a short section of the run but with a severe pitch, add in some not ideal conditions and fall line bump skiing is not as simple as the demonstration provided in the video. Maybe age (63) and strength decline have just made me change my approach to the bumps… still love ‘em just not zipper line any more!!
Check this video out and i have a few more. Mogul skiing: tactics, pole plants, edging, rotary, teaching focus points ua-cam.com/video/jEzqxFemzPc/v-deo.html
Deb, I’m an old-guy skier from the South (so I don’t get on the slopes a lot) but your videos are great and much appreciated. Really beneficial is your focus on fundamentals. I teach flying taildraggers (it’s a hobby) where fundamentals are everything so I deeply appreciate that. Bobby does an excellent job here conveying what works. Just putting you or him in my mind’s eye and following you down a slope is what I’ll be doing in three weeks at Whitefish. Can’t wait!! I thoroughly love your videos! And BTW, when I began skiing I studied the videos of Lito Tejada-Flores. The “feet close together” style is beautiful (I see it in mogul skiing). What do you think about that form? Lastly, Bobby mentioned “unshaped skis” in the video. What would be an example of unshaped skis? Any you recommend? Thank you!!
Thanks for the thoughts and comment. As for "unshaped skis" just a ski with out a lot of shape to it. for example a slalom race ski has a lot of shape to it. A GS race ski has less shape. competition mogul skis do not have a lot of shape to them and they are a narrower ski.
In my opinion, Bobby’s reference to unshaped skis was for those young expert bump skiers who run the zipper line in the trench.That’s not you and me. Mere mortals do better drifting the back sides of each soft (we hope) bump, or drifting the tails up the faces to control speed. I found “Bumps for Boomers” helpful.
Question, … why are your legs together, but when I watch Glen Plake training with mogul ski team from the 90’s … they are a little apart for those guys and the ski are longer. Are there several mogul techniques developed through time ?
How important is the width of your stance? Depending on the terrain, i can ski with my skis closer together. But other times my stance gets a little wider, especially if there is crud.
Dear Deb, in foot to foot skiing what is the amount of pressure between out- inside ski? Is it in percentage 80/20 or lower 70/30 or 60/40. And what about the hipwide stance. Do you have instructional advice in gaining a better stance? Thnx from the lowlands.
Hi Erik, not sure if you will ever read this, but the answer is that it varies throughout the turn and then also depends on conditions! Pressure should shift from around even during the transition and then increase through the turn before coming back to 50/50 at the next transition. I think your peak outside ski pressure should be somewhere between apex and transition for carved and skidded turns. A good way to figure out what peak pressure balance works best for you (or for the conditions) could be to try picking up inside ski towards the apex of turns (in one of Debs carving videos she has Wilson do this to get deeper into the turn I think) and then work backwards to nearly 60/40 peak pressure. I think you'll want more outside ski pressure the more firm the snow is. Deb could probably confirm/correct all of this, but not sure if she'll see a comment from a year ago!
I ski bumps a lot. Killington is pretty much the gold standard of bump skiing and we have a saying, it’s not that you can’t ski bumps its that you can’t actually really ski. Bumps are like truth serum, it will bring out all your flaws.
@@mtadams2009 I see - it's the gold standard in terms of difficulty. But to your main point, isn't it possible to be great at, say, carving turns on flat terrain and skiing powder, crud, steeps and variable terrain, but not be great at skiing moguls? Why is mogul skiing necessarily the be-all/end-all of skiing?
@@humanbeing2420 I think if you’re truly good at all of those other aspects of skiing you’re probably a decent bump skier. Most people who can’t bump are not really good at the fundamentals of skiing and that is why they struggle in the bumps. Most people I watch who struggle in the bumps are skiing in the back seat or they are not proficient at short tight turns. They lack snap in their skies.
Deb was so happy at 3:10 when he stood on the uphill ski, "foot to foot skiing" as she has been demonstrating. What he didn't say, is he is tipping the downhill ski, isn't' he, Deb?
Hi Deb, thanks for all your beautiful videos! Regarding 3:10, this standing on the uphill ski confuses me. I have always been told that, during transitions, I should *extend forward* and *down* the hill. In contrast, here it seems the upper body moves *up* the hill.
How does one foot move to the other in the transition? It's been a mystery (for self taught and schooled skiers alike) on the specific input that magically changes direction. I have identified it in a simple move; make the outside leg a little bit shorter. This simple input will quickly have the skis turn back around. Every turn melts into the next with this. 😍 Skiing isn't about the turn, it's essence is turning THE OTHER WAY over and over again. 🤯 If you must have instantaneous response then I'll allow some rotary input. 🤔
Deb Armstrong, thank you to you and Bobby for this very informative tutorial of short radius turn etiquette. The physical descriptions, the technical descriptions, and the step by step specific instructions on how to make this turn correctly. If we all had started 30+ years ago with these very well articulated instructions, we wouldn't have spent decades skiing incorrectly. We pick up so many bad habits, too fast, what we see in movies, versus just good basic dedicated technique. To you and Bobby thank you very much. "It doesn't have to be fast, it just has to be good".
This is probably the best ski instruction channel on UA-cam. Thank you!! Ski the Fish!
I have heard that from others as well. Thank you!! Spread the word😉😉
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong the word is spreading, we follow you in middle east(Israel) already 😉🤗love your channel!
cheers from Iceland 🇮🇸⛷️❄️
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong constantly tell everyone I ski with, great instruction, really well paced, great examples. Fantastic work
@@tw4g56d love it. spread the word
This video helped my skiing so much! Its crazy how much info is packed in this 7-minute video.
TY for making a series on mogul skiing. There are lots of misconceptions floating around on this type of skiing. Kudos for having B Aldighieri to dispel some them and more importantly explain some of the mechanics in skiing the zipper line. Aldighieri is a legend, he has about done it all in this sport.
5:49 to 5:57 on video the pole plants are being made somewhat close to the ski tips. Pole taps or pole plants to close to the ski tip instead of down the hill will make it harder to keep the body square to the hill. The more the skis are angled across the fall line the more important to plant the pole down the hill & not @ the ski tip to hold counter through the turn.
Deb and Bobby - Thank you! Seems to me that you teach fundamentals of skiing which are so important everywhere on the mountain. Not just moguls. I've watched most of your videos and I believe they've helped me become a better skier and better skiers have more fun! I'll keep watching!
Ski Sugarbush ;)
Awesome. In each of Deb's videos I find some new useful tip to apply or drill to work on.
Bobby is such a good skier he can't really fake being bad :-)
Thanks!
Thank you Alison for supporting the channel. Greatly appreciated!!! Glad you appreciate the content
I like the term “foot to foot skiing.” That’s a good way to remember the technique. Videoing him from behind and slowing it down was extremely helpful. Heading to Park City in a few days, I’m going to watch this video multiple times before I go.
I've watched this video a bunch of times and when Bobby takes off at the very end I always laugh in amazement. Thanks Deb.
Steve Desovich and Bob Aldighieri, the most explosive and dynamic turners I have ever seen🦵🏽 🏆 !
Been skiing moguls since 80’s. This is good instructional advice. Stay tight and compact.
Hi Deb, I'm so excited about this video! It turned the light on in my brain instantly and learn I learned a tremendous amount from such a short video! Bobby showing right and wrong said so much!
Thanks,
Barry
Slow and good is better than fast and sucky!😝
Fantastic demos, thanks Bobby! And thanks Deb, always love your videos!
Fantastic Deb and Bobby. Just love the way you guys break it down and how Deb just asked the the right questions too Bobby. Big thumbs up from England 👍
Another amazing video. I learned so much from watching this. Thanks Deb.
Deb - love your channel and videos, some of the clearest and easiest to follow ski instruction videos ever seen online and i have been involved in the industry for over 10 years! Would love to get this content out in front of our client base!
Thank you. Spread the word. All the best.
Great Video thanks Deb. Clear and precise fundamentals that pertain to all skiing not just mogul skiing.
Your questions to clarify things a bit more are so spot on
Great instruction. Thanks Bobby & Deb!
Awesome video instructing together, makes it very clear when Deb is commentating his movements! Thanks!!
Thank you so much for all your helpful videos, Deb!
Awesome tips. Thanks again. Great video as always!
This is all the about learning the non-intuitive stuff which you don't know it's right (feels right) until you actually do it. Good stuff! Start with the brain and work your way down. Thanks, Deb!
Deb, your videos are absolutely fantastic. Thanks!
Great video on proper weight transfer when making turns! Thanks for sharing all this great content.
These videos are great. Thank you Deb!
I love your lessons. You have such a nice way of giving helpful advice without making me feel dumb or weak. I'm going on a ski trip in two weeks and will definitely be using your techniques. Thanks!
Thank you thank you!! One more excellent reminder video to watch on the lift!! Great job!
What a great guy and what a great lesson in the fundamentals.
Deb thanks for bringing that to us
Thanks a lot for your videos. It helps me a lot to improve my ski technique and also explain better to my clients. Cheers from Slovakia :)
Deb, your videos are awesome! Always look forward to them.
Thank you!
You have the best tutorials on UA-cam.
Thanks!
I like how he skied on one ski to really demonstrate the technique.
Excellent que with the "new outside ski" + "pinch the grape" :)
Will take that with me! Cheers!
Right questions and right answers...it's really helpful video for me! Thanks 👍
GREAT!
This is a great follow up lesson to your inside leg video and first mogul video with Bobby. I really like the way the idea of making short radius turns on the flats was employed and emphasized. You got to practice the way you want to ski. Drills build skills. Thanks for your great work and video instructions.
Deb...absolutely terrific stuff. Thank you for asking Bobby to be a part of your instruction/channel. The complete, detailed instructions and description are fantastic. I was reminded of when people/instructor would say "complete" your turn -- to me, what does that mean? As a former collegiate athlete and D1 coach (different sport, of course), but a late starting, high-intermediate level skier, I always ask a lot of questions. It is easy to tell someone to complete an action, but it is difficult to describe the initiation of an action and the reasons thereof. Thank you again.
Great advice! You're asking questions I didn't know how to ask!
Hey Deb and Bobby, I've been watching your mogul videos. I love the technical description and thanks to your videos, I've been improving a lot this year. I Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec areas.
this guy is very good explaining it, great video
Thanks Deb and Bobby, so often skiers forget those important "Keys" of using core and keeping stable shoulder level.
Thanks for posting these videos and the effort you put into making them. They really help and are a great resource for learning. Thanks so much...one day one day I'll be there :)
So few seem to understand the key part of turn initiation is uphill ski / uphill edge pressure. Smooth, powerful, connected, balanced, and can be done very quickly if needed (old school we called that “up unweight”). Also great description of core activation in turns. Enjoyed - thanks!
Have been binge watching your videos, Deb. 1st of season was promising but lack of fresh snow (Red Lodge Mtn) has made me an arm chair skier lately.
Pinch the grape will be my new mantra..
I am so happy that you mation lifting what will become new outside ski. I like this technic it make skis turn really quick and clearly without any problem. And it helps in bomps and moguls.
Great advice!! Can’t wait to get out and try this!! Thanks Deb!!
Aloha Deb, You inspired me in the Olympics! Happy to see you connected with my former US teammate and Olympian Bobby. He is a great coach because he is super passionate about skiing and cares about the athletes he coaches. Please give him my best. In the words of our former US Ski Team coach Park Smalley, "Keep on keeping on!" Maggie
Excellent instruction…many thanks!
Finally! A coach which finally emphasizes the importance of early weight transfer onto the uphill ski. Thank you! Could you make a followup video about how to smear the skiis to ski in moguls or tight corridors? Lots of videos about pivot slips on the internet but not many go into the detail about how to flatten the skiis and weight distribution between the feet at the different points in the turn.
Many of my videos address finding the new outside foot early in the turn. Did you see my inside leg video?
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Yup. I've watched all your videos! You're one of the few coaches that explain the concept of inside leg and foot to foot transfer really well.
Deb is 100 procent on this skkiing lessons best coach ever 💯
Deb, Dadou and Alain @ TSV have both been teaching to initiate turns with rotation of the inside ski off the spine and "allowing" the outside ski to follow it. I find it a novel concept and very effective alternative movement. BTW, it was wonderful meeting you at the women's ski week. Your groups were all over the mountain and having a lot of fun!
As for the tactic you mention, of course. There are many ways to approach the bumps. Good to know all ways for the best descent down the mountain.😊
Great video, thanks! I tend to call that upper body downhill skis move with the hips side to side.
Such great fundamentals, well explained!
Really useful. Thanks to both of you.
I have been preaching this for years. The simple essence of skiing.
Would you say he is carving turns here? Or skidding? Or a blend of the two?
“Pinch the grape” - love it, now it all comes together. Thanks guys!
Please could you explain, my English is rather weak.
I don't like that way of explaining It. I would say It's a rather poor pick as an analogy, when you do that "grape pinching" It leads to the spine being bent laterally. This is not what our spine is biomechanically designed for, It can cause issues on the long run putting our vertabrae on a weak position to deal with sudden forces hitting us, like when skiing bumps. Having the lats engaged and good leg turning creates a stronger and more functional position due to respecting physiological movement of the spine and maintaining a better overall alignment.
@@Mellow_Mood_Beats buddy this guy was an Olympic mogul skier, and an Olympic mogul coach. If you disagree with him, you’re probably wrong.
Excellent! Thank you!
Thanks for the tips
Wow... I'm going to pinch the grape on the slope and drink the grapes apres-ski. Excellent explanation and demo!
Fantastic tips on upper body
So helpful. Thank you!
Step on your uphill ski - love that to explain the initiation of the ski - (Will be practicing this weekend - while I teach a 4 year old - (Hands on his knees - to push into his next turn) - Love it Deb - had to Applaud ya because long time - first time :)
Thank you Kevin!!!!
Love how quiet the arms are as well
what I'm most impressed with is finding the fall line, on a mountain that allows boarders, with flat light and tinted goggles!
Ha!
This is how I learned, body facing down the fall line and "foot to foot" and new downhill ski, coupled with stable traverse and side slipping techniques when required.. I am still not getting the advice for 60:40 downhill ski:upper ski; seems contrary to this. Guess I will stick to this rather than worry about my uphill ski; seems to work and seems a foundation for mogul skiing. There is hope.😍
See that video first time, so my comment is a bit late 😉 Bobby is great. But he tricks a little bit at 3:14 min. After changing the leg he pulls the inside foot towards the outside leg. It‘s just a real small movement, but it obviates to fall inside especially with the hip. This makes the early load change to the new outside foot much easier. It is no mistake (of course), but it helps 😉 My opinion: to learn the early load change, a skier should learn how to adept the upper body to the gradient first. Because in my opinion this is the main aspect for average skiers to be balanced enough to learn an early load change. If we talk about experts, no question, you‘re definitely right.
Interesting information in the two videos with BA, with him speaking about not being very "edgy" with more smearing turns, but in the fundamentals video, he is demonstrating that "pinch" turn that engages quite a bit of edge. I'll practice in the groomers to find the right balance between the two.
Great video !!
Also, there is a lot of engagement of the Quads, adductors and abductors. The tight stance thru the bumps works best as compared to a more open parallel stance. Fitness is key !
So cool, Bobby actually went to the 1992 olympic games in france with my father, i'm wondering if they know each other.
Steamboat Springs, Colorado, USA! Hot skiers and excellent snow every year.
Super camera work.
This was awesome. I'm a yoga instructor and skier, and this actually ties together yoga concepts with skiing - particularly core engagement, using obliques, and proper vertical stacking - upper body positioning. Great stuff.
Yes, great comment
Upper/lower separation is “Key.”
Another great vid!
Bobby is happy 😊
Thank you two are awesome what a service what a gift Rock On! (Now can you give me some punctuation lessons? LOL) :))
but I believe (I am not an expert) that in the short-radius curve there is also a hip rotation transferred to the ski to facilitate the rhythm/speed of the curv-ing(?) and not just/only a transfer of weight from downhill to the other ski (i.e. outside ski in the curve), or am I wrong? Said so, the upper body position is essential to avoid loss of balance (which is my biggest problem in general)
nice work
Im gonna pinch the grape next Sunday.
I got a good image from your video.
My biggest problem in close packed moguls is getting onto the uphill edge before the bottom trough of the mogul. Usually I hold the lower ski and eat the second mogul because once in the trench there is no room (or time) to get the uphill ski flexing into the turn. Maybe I should go with a shorter (than 180’s) ski. Multi turns at high speed on flat are just what I do for leg conditioning.
What an awesome, active example of rotational separation! Thank you!!!
uh oh! he's lost me!
I missed watching these Deb!
It is quirky that the term “square” means the opposite whether referring to the skis or the fall line. Consequently, a ski pro should always clarify their use of the term, square. Also, in the case of alpine skiing, square means parallel rather than perpendicular which may further confuse clients. So, are we square?
Good video. You should do one on kid/dad jokes. I use them in every lesson but after a while my kids have heard them all. The true measure of a good ski instructor is how many silly jokes they have lol
This is amazing. I love it when we see how to do it poorly as well
I have been skiing bumps for over 45 years and continue to love big soft snow covered bumps now that I get annual month long ski trips to the mountains of B.C. Since my earlier days of zipper line bump skiing and staying square, balanced and level, all of the verbs(?) you used to describe how to zipper line a bump run, how about now when my radius is a bit wider and yes 90 degrees to the fall line to maintain speed on the extreme pitches. How can you possibly stay square to the fall line? If you are doing a 3 (or 4) bump wide line I dont believe you can stay square to the fall line but only square to your skis coupled with correct weight transfer. Is this a bad thing or am I not hearing you correctly? Fall line bump skiing is great for a short section of the run but with a severe pitch, add in some not ideal conditions and fall line bump skiing is not as simple as the demonstration provided in the video. Maybe age (63) and strength decline have just made me change my approach to the bumps… still love ‘em just not zipper line any more!!
Check this video out and i have a few more. Mogul skiing: tactics, pole plants, edging, rotary, teaching focus points
ua-cam.com/video/jEzqxFemzPc/v-deo.html
Also check out my mogul playlist
Deb, I’m an old-guy skier from the South (so I don’t get on the slopes a lot) but your videos are great and much appreciated. Really beneficial is your focus on fundamentals. I teach flying taildraggers (it’s a hobby) where fundamentals are everything so I deeply appreciate that. Bobby does an excellent job here conveying what works. Just putting you or him in my mind’s eye and following you down a slope is what I’ll be doing in three weeks at Whitefish. Can’t wait!!
I thoroughly love your videos! And BTW, when I began skiing I studied the videos of Lito Tejada-Flores. The “feet close together” style is beautiful (I see it in mogul skiing). What do you think about that form?
Lastly, Bobby mentioned “unshaped skis” in the video. What would be an example of unshaped skis? Any you recommend?
Thank you!!
Thanks for the thoughts and comment. As for "unshaped skis" just a ski with out a lot of shape to it. for example a slalom race ski has a lot of shape to it. A GS race ski has less shape. competition mogul skis do not have a lot of shape to them and they are a narrower ski.
In my opinion, Bobby’s reference to unshaped skis was for those young expert bump skiers who run the zipper line in the trench.That’s not you and me.
Mere mortals do better drifting the back sides of each soft (we hope) bump, or drifting the tails up the faces to control speed. I found “Bumps for Boomers” helpful.
Question, … why are your legs together, but when I watch Glen Plake training with mogul ski team from the 90’s … they are a little apart for those guys and the ski are longer. Are there several mogul techniques developed through time ?
Excellent
Brilliant!
How important is the width of your stance? Depending on the terrain, i can ski with my skis closer together. But other times my stance gets a little wider, especially if there is crud.
Dear Deb, in foot to foot skiing what is the amount of pressure between out- inside ski? Is it in percentage 80/20 or lower 70/30 or 60/40. And what about the hipwide stance. Do you have instructional advice in gaining a better stance? Thnx from the lowlands.
Hi Erik, not sure if you will ever read this, but the answer is that it varies throughout the turn and then also depends on conditions! Pressure should shift from around even during the transition and then increase through the turn before coming back to 50/50 at the next transition. I think your peak outside ski pressure should be somewhere between apex and transition for carved and skidded turns.
A good way to figure out what peak pressure balance works best for you (or for the conditions) could be to try picking up inside ski towards the apex of turns (in one of Debs carving videos she has Wilson do this to get deeper into the turn I think) and then work backwards to nearly 60/40 peak pressure. I think you'll want more outside ski pressure the more firm the snow is.
Deb could probably confirm/correct all of this, but not sure if she'll see a comment from a year ago!
Beautiful demo! and Deb's commentary. Terrif.
Thanks!!!
Even doing it poorly he looks good.
@Deb Armstrong - could you do a video about skiing ice, not hard packed snow, ice :)
Yep. give me time to get it done however
I ski bumps a lot. Killington is pretty much the gold standard of bump skiing and we have a saying, it’s not that you can’t ski bumps its that you can’t actually really ski. Bumps are like truth serum, it will bring out all your flaws.
The gold standard of bump skiing *in the east* you mean?
@@humanbeing2420 I would say in the U.S. If you can ski bump in the East you can ski bumps anywhere.
@@mtadams2009 I see - it's the gold standard in terms of difficulty. But to your main point, isn't it possible to be great at, say, carving turns on flat terrain and skiing powder, crud, steeps and variable terrain, but not be great at skiing moguls? Why is mogul skiing necessarily the be-all/end-all of skiing?
@@humanbeing2420 I think if you’re truly good at all of those other aspects of skiing you’re probably a decent bump skier. Most people who can’t bump are not really good at the fundamentals of skiing and that is why they struggle in the bumps. Most people I watch who struggle in the bumps are skiing in the back seat or they are not proficient at short tight turns. They lack snap in their skies.
Deb was so happy at 3:10 when he stood on the uphill ski, "foot to foot skiing" as she has been demonstrating. What he didn't say, is he is tipping the downhill ski, isn't' he, Deb?
It is not either or.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Thanks!
Hi Deb, thanks for all your beautiful videos! Regarding 3:10, this standing on the uphill ski confuses me. I have always been told that, during transitions, I should *extend forward* and *down* the hill. In contrast, here it seems the upper body moves *up* the hill.
@@solitone upper body does not move back up the hill. However one can be balanced with the uphill foot. Watch my inside leg video😉
BTW isn’t that move similar to what Harald Harb calls the super phantom?
How does one foot move to the other in the transition? It's been a mystery (for self taught and schooled skiers alike) on the specific input that magically changes direction. I have identified it in a simple move; make the outside leg a little bit shorter. This simple input will quickly have the skis turn back around. Every turn melts into the next with this. 😍 Skiing isn't about the turn, it's essence is turning THE OTHER WAY over and over again. 🤯
If you must have instantaneous response then I'll allow some rotary input. 🤔
Take a look at my inside leg video.😉
First thing to fire is hip abductors (glute medius) on new downhill side as you initiate turn.