THE depressing season⁉️Buffy The Vampire Slayer S06E04|'' Flooded''♡Reaction & Review♡
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since you are on Season 7 you have to know the faces we life long fans make when your thumbnail asks "is this another depressing season?" about S6
@@danh8804 And talking about not liking Warren.
'Should Willow and Tara contribute?" Yes. Yes they should. Thank you Sofie for recognising this nonsense.
it literally upsets me so much whenever i think about this because they really brought ber back to life and then got her to fix all of the problems while mooching off of her
I think one reason why the series works so well is that they mixed in all the real-world problems with all the really weird vampires, demons and Tucker's brother.
Actually, the monsters and demons are the projection of the real world issues. Like metaphors
That’s exactly the intent of the writing of the series.
I had to laugh when Dawn screamed hysterically after getting blasted by water from the pipes. Giles has a lot of mystic knowledge as a Watcher. He knew the forces involved with a resurrection spell were extremely risky, so calling Willow a "rank amateur" was both cutting and accurate.
He also has a lot of personal experience with playing with forces without truly understanding the price.
@@Katerine459 Yep, in The Dark Age, we saw how it nearly cost him Jenny.
I know many fans don't appreciate it, but I love S6. That's no more teen-age stuff, this is real life, with grownups' problems, bills to pay, depression, difficult relationships... and much more. Welcome to the dark side!
It's fantastic! I love all seasons, but this one has 2 of my favorite episodes!! 😍😍😍Once More, with Feeling & Tabula Rasa! 😊
People really need to stop leaning on the “it’s the grown-up” season when they defend season 6. It makes both the season and the criticisms towards the season come off more basic than they are.
@John Johnson, I've seen a lot of the criticism for this season. And I don't get how describing it as the "grown up" season frames them any differently. What is really disturbing to me is the fact that the writers were supposed to draw from personal experience, so every criticism I've read is potentially criticism of an actual person's real life.
So, I get it. The season makes me deeply uncomfortable at times. But, calling it the "grown-up" season does not seem like a problem to me. The fact that it was written by humans seems like the bigger problem. This stuff happens. As uncomfortable and depressing as it may be, it actually happens. Not the demons and supernatural stuff. But, a lot of the other stuff describes real issues people face.
@@liteflightify coming from someone who adores season 6 and possibly ranks it as my favourite season, I agree. Buffy has always been a show with a lot of maturity for the most part. I don't love season 6 because its "more grown up", I love it for specific emotional depth and feel of it, and I love how it explores the characters in fascinating new ways.
Fans who don't like season 6 can't be fans.
"Buffy just feels like a different show every season, and yet no other show feels completely consistent like Buffy does". I absolutely love this commentary, I feel like you nailed why Buffy is so special and so incredibly rewatchable. I started watching it when I was about 12, and I'm in my late 20s now and it still feels fresh, packs a punch, is so entertaining and yet gets more resonant every rewatch as I get older and appreciate new things.
Oh. Warren is getting too creepy for you, you say? Oh you sweet, summer child lol
Shes already on season 7 so she knows what a piece of shit he is
Willow has basically spent her entire life being special, but in ways that most people don't appreciate as much as perhaps they should. Describing how she brought Buffy back in that simplistic, joking kind of way, just shows that she is so pleased with her accomplishment that she hasn't even considered the danger that was involved. And she's really looking hard for that 'round of applause'.
That’s right. She’s not taking into account the risks and consequences of performing highly advanced and specifically dark magic.
Her arrogance, entitlement and pride won’t let her take a step back, slow down and think. Something nerdy Willow always did.
But she doesn’t want to be nerdy Willow. That’s the thing. That’s the whole point. She wants to do everything to avoid THAT Willow.
@@Girl4Music It can get really tiring being the one to be responsible, and disciplined. I experienced a similar kind of situation, when I finally realized that there were limits to what my family could actually do if refused to go along with what they thought I should be doing. There were some rough years after that (not Willow rough obviously). Anyway, I think that's why I llike her character so much.
@@dmwalker24 same. She’s very relatable
@@dmwalker24 except she never was "the one responsible", even when she was still "nerdy Willow". Every misstep was someone else's fault, an accident, she was just feeling so baaaaad and didn't mean to do that!
As powerful as Willow is, Giles has been around a lot longer and has a whole lot more wisdom. Willow should listen to him. Giles can see how Willow's reliance on magic is changing her.
Honeslty I think Anya was dead right in S5 when she said Xander was only proposing because he thought they were all going to die and he wouldn't have to go through with it. He didn't lie when he said she was wrong about his motivation. In the moment, he really did mean it, but on a subconscious level, he really didn't believe they'd survive Glory. So now that his subconscious has been proven wrong, he needs to get the ego and the id back in line with one another, adjusting to a new worldview. It's easy to say "We're all going to die, but in case we don't, I'm going to marry this girl." It's a whole different animal to actually survive the impossible odds and realize "Oh, there *is* a future."
Willow getting yelled at was so satisfying. She’s led up to this dive off the deep end for a LONG time
Imagine if Giles was in ‘Triangle’. He would have so blasted her then.
A LONG awaited conversation since that talk in season 3, episode 3 they had when she had the slip of the tongue about her reckless and unsupervised, misuse of magic, Giles caught it and immediately questioned her antics. As usual, Willow deflected and insisted on helping with Giles' "spell". That fight was a LONG time coming...
I'm so happy whenever someone mentions the Willow and Tara mooching off of Buffy situation. They should totally pay rent! They would if they still lived at the student dorm, so why not give it to Buffy.
At least Tara does chores in the house. What does Willow do exactly besides play god over the supernatural forces? They make it out like she has the greatest burden of all coming into this season. WHAT DOES SHE DO? Everything she does she does because she wants to do it. Because she knows she can do it. She never once thinks about anyone else in the meanwhile. It’s all “me, me, me” with her.
It's odd that they don't. I wonder if they justify it by babysitting costs during the time Buffy was dead. We didn't get a confirmation either way.
babysitting aside, and whether it was a good idea or not, willow presumably also spent a lot of time on buffybot.
@@sirmoonslosthismind yeah, but again. That’s all to do with the supernatural. When I say what did she do… I mean in the natural world. What did she do as a human in a human reality?
Sure - she went to college but that wouldn’t take all her time. She could still get a job on the side.
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i fundamentally disagree with your attempt to devalue "all to do with the supernatural". that's work, too. that's why, for example, the slayer should collect a living stipend from the council.
When Willow is Challenged, she gets defensive. And who challenges her the most????? Giles. RIPPER. Never forget that. Great reactions, Sofie.
Adding a bit to the "Season 6 is about adulthood" conversation: Once you get out of school and are out in 'the real world,' there is a tendency to look back at childhood as having been wonderful and idyllic. Of course, it wasn't (ESPECIALLY not for Buffy!), but that's what "I was in heaven" is a metaphor for. In the last episode, there is a moment where Buffy looks at a picture of her mother and says "I miss Giles." That's a feeling you can get when being a grown-up overwhelms you: You wish Mom and Dad were there to take care of things, and you.
Season 1-3 - high school. Season 4 - College. Season 5 - College and growing up under parental supervision into adulthood. This season so far - The failure to grow up due to depression and dealing with real life.
"Jonathan, Warren and .... that other guy...." Yes. Yes exactly. That guy. 😂
And I actually never though about that comparison, Buffy having financial problems while the stupid guys are practically swimming in money without having to lift a finger for it.
Really? I thought that was the obvious juxtaposition going on with them throughout the whole season.
@@Girl4Music I *never* thought about that. All I thought about through the whole season was:"WHY?Why are these guys here?Why are we spending so much time with them?Where's the real Big Bad?What's all THIS???🤨😵"I know the point of the season was proving even a random muggle loser can become very dangerous when given the right kind of weapons(............................)but...part of my brain still refuses to accept *that* was the ACTUAL plot of the whole S6:Buffy VS the 3 Random Nerds!X-PPP
@@Nicamon yeah, I also thought like that.
It does look darker. And by the time season 7 rolls around, we only can see their silhouettes 😂
LOL!😂😂😂
It always confused me that the Watchers’ Council paid the Watcher - Giles - but never paid the Slayer. It’s a big deal in S6 especially that Buffy desperately needs money.
I think most slayers didn't stay alive long enough for money to be an issue. They were mostly teenagers living with their parents.
@@MicukoFelton No, they're teenagers living with the watcher who feeds them and provides for them. They need nothing but only focus on training and slaying.
I love how Giles told willow off
It is really well done how the season begins and how it ends. This is a really great season for characters
My generous fanon is that Willow & Tara do pay rent and contribute to household expenses but it's not enough to cover all of the mortgage (slightly above average, it's a smaller town but still SoCal) plus property taxes (likely below average to entice people to move there) plus home insurance (above average b/c Sunnydale). In any case, there's just not enough saved for large emergency expenses like a piping retrofit.
The house's finances have been run by basically three teenagers in a trenchcoat and Willow's absolutely the type to confidently assert that she's got everything under control right up until the house get reposessed by the bank.
Yep. She’s absolutely the type to do that. So afraid of being perceived as useless or worthless. Overcompensating in stuff that really isn’t all that crucial at the moment.
If so one would imagine that it had been brought up during the discussion of finance but the only thing they brought up was the money Joyce left behind that was now gone.
Somebody please give this woman a break.
Also, Willow and Tara. You live there.
Get a fucking job!
Also. Xander works in construction and has a whole ass team around the clock. Couldn’t he have fixed the pipes?
And how’s about Anya. Works in retail. Couldn’t she have possibly helped with the financing problems?
I just don’t believe there’s nothing anybody but Buffy could do about the whole no money situation.
It's never made clear if or what Willow and Tara contribute in terms of bills.
They living off Buffy rent free!
I know Tara contributes to the chores around the house. Cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, making the bed, looking after Dawn..
She’s the fucking labourer.
Willow is the freeloader.
Willow went downhill from here, for me. I always thought that the real reason she brought Buffy back wasn't because she was worried that her friend was stuck in hell or whatever, but to prove anyone and herself that she was a powerful witch.
She thought she could do anything with magic and that it'll fix all her problems in life, and that's actually the problem with her, because she never draw the line. Like, do you remember when she opened a dark magic book at the Magic Shop back in Season 5, because Glory "ate" Tara's brain, then went to her house to "kill" her ? Yeah, this gives you an insight into Willow's logic. Even using dark magic was fine with her, as long as she could play with it, as if it was "normal" 😒
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You’re doing great, girl! I love your reactions. Saw a random hater comment and rolled my eyes HEAVILY.
and yes… you bring up an obvious point, why wasn’t the council paying their slayers?!
They choose them as young as possible for a reason. They’re always at the age of not being able to make fully informed adult decisions and always having to be dependent on parents or guardians. They choose children especially. They choose females specifically . And it’s because they know they can have the most power and control over them. They’re young, impressionable, and dependent on authority figures much older, wiser and hold all the power. So it’s completely obvious why they don’t pay their Slayers. So they can’t pay their way out of their “destiny” to beat the “enemy”.
SPIKE: “I always wondered what would happen when that bitch got some funding.”
Is Buffy working for them at this point? And yes, they should be paying them.
@@alicequinn505 Sort of. She explained that they’re an equal team ever since ‘Checkpoint’. That she is the law and they come to her rather than other way around.
"Jonathan, Robot Guy and?..... that other guy." PERFECTION :D (I never realized until now how the writing stuck like - Now Ben and Glory... Is there some kind of connection? Lol.
LOVE hearing your insights. This is my favorite season and I can't wait to hear your thoughts as it progresses.
Is anyone else counting down to see her reaction to.............................?
No, I’m fucking dreading it.
Yes, Willow and Tara should have helped. They are the worst. Bringing Buffy back after she chose to jump and then leaving her to deal alone with everything is like breaking someone's leg so he don't jump of a bridge and then leaving him with a broken leg in the middle of nowhere.
Good analogy.
Another depressing season!? How about THE depressing season... but oh-so rich in context!
On the scariness meter, Giles warning ("Oh, there are others in this world who can do what you did. You just don't want to meet them.") ranks pretty high. But Willow's response ('maybe it's not such a good idea to piss me off"), or, more accurately, the tone of voice Alyson summons to say it, is off-the charts frightening.
Yet again, we have Buffy and Spike quietly sitting side-by-side, her confiding, him sympathizing. It's replacing the Buffy/Giles scenes that used to end so many episodes.
A small thing I always love: Buffy saying "No weapons that I could see, but still dangerous," then she looks up, and there's Giles. Nice!
Sofie referred to Willow’s response to Giles as “she snapped”. But Willow doesn’t shout or scream at Giles. Her tone is calm but it’s intimidating. As if she now views their dynamic as her being above him and him beneath her. As if she’s surpassed him. And yeah, it’s scary.
A depressing season?! Noooo.... how could it be...?! 😎
3:00 Well Xander tries to help - even though the costs are still high he bargained for a friendship discount with the plumber.
Wow. Talking. Amazing effort. 😒
@@Girl4Music It is - that saves her a lot of money.
@@Girl4Music Other than outright give her money, what else was he expected to do? He has a job and his own home, as does Anya. Willow and Tara are living freely in Buffy’s house, taking over Buffy’s mother’s bedroom, and not contributing anything to the house while being in charge of a teenager. Buffy is ripped out of heaven and expected to immediately get a job to not only support herself and her sister, but the two freeloaders that made zero effort to do anything to financially support anyone, even when it was just them and Dawn in the house. Buffy got a raw deal from her so called best friend here, and not a single time is either Willow or Tara called out about in the show. Buffy should have immediately kicked Willow and Tara out of the house unless they provided financial support to Buffy for letting them live there.
@@tak1984 I don’t disagree.
Exactly Willow and Tara are suppose to contribute not live there for free. There’s their dorm for that
It makes sense that Willow and Tara wouldn't have paid rent prior to Buffy's resurrection; there wasn't really anyone to pay rent to. But it's certainly unreasonable to dump the responsibility for handling the household finances on Buffy once she's back without contributing themselves. I do get the sense that the shortfall exceeds a reasonable rent payment, though.
They would still need to pay for the water and electricity pills.
Flooded was interesting episode, in that we now see how Buffy has to cope with being an adult and all that pressure that comes with paying bills etc. A bit of a ropey plot, with the irritating Trio now introduced, and as if Buffy didn't have enough to cope with she now has these goons messing with her. The standout of course if the conversation with Willow and Giles which takes a very dark turn. Another thing which is strange is that Willow and Tara just living there rent free, surely whatever income they could contribute. A trivial point I know its just strange that everyone is just piling in there.
After season 5 Buffy was no longer on the same network as Angel which made crossovers much harder.
Thank you! This has bothered me since the original run of season 6. Why aren't Willow and Tara contributing? They live there.
How the hell Willow and/or Tara didn't get jobs to help out blows my mind. Get a part time job to help pay utilities and buy groceries at least!
"Angel does. Cordelia does."
...Well, Cordelia does. Remember that Angel had to be talked into charging people and frequently does pro bono hero work. If not for Cordy, I don't think he'd ask anyone to pay.
I don’t understand why the watchers get paid and the slayers don’t. I mean, the very first thing the Mayor did for Faith was get her a nice apartment, furnish it and buy her clothes and gifts. And he was evil.
You’d think that the council would pay for all of the Slayer’s living expenses and fund her training to invest in weapons and training. They even have alchemists in the council that literally create gold to fund themselves with.
Angel is always there .. He is the one She loves the most and always will ! She is soo fragile when it comes to Angel ❤
I love how insightful you are and how you get the themes right away
Ah yeah the freeloaders Willow and Tara. I feel like we been talking about that for 20 years. Now i feel old
Tara can be excused okay. She has no family support at this point. Willow has a rich mother and she’s got so many skills and qualifications at her disposal. She could easily get a job at a fucking tech company or something. She’d rather mess about with magic instead.
So many reactors, so little time
@@Girl4Music she could probably magic up some money as well.
@@Henrik_Holst can’t do that in Charmed. “Self-gain” problem. But that doesn’t seem to be a problem in Buffy.
The show is making a simple point, that being a superhero doesn’t make you immune to the reality of life, like needing a job. Willow isn’t “lying to herself.” 😂 She really does believe that Buffy was in hell. They all did. And it’s based on what they all experienced.
Maybe she does believe it but I don’t think she cares all that much about that specifically. What she cares about is what she can do about it. What she can take control over. And it’s probably her biggest trait in both the negatives and the positives.
“How can I fix this?”
Not really taking into account whether she should.
Finnally your buffy reaction ⭐️
I’m just now finding your reactions. I only watch one other set of reacters, who I think are funny and intelligent. But you have *great* reactions! You’re very thoughtful in your analysis of things, like the sheer selfishness of the Scoobies, especially Willow expecting gratitude. I’ve not seen such analysis from anyone else. I saw Buffy 20 years ago when it was broadcast on tv, but I recently rewatched and was just amazed at how well it’s held up and how deep it is and how funny and smart many episodes are. Except much of season 6.😆 I now need to go back and watch your reactions from episode 1.
Oh, and I agree. Why don’t the rest of them get jobs and pay rent and utilities?!
I've been watching you for a long time and I really enjoy your commentary.... There are things I wish I could say that I can't. Not yet. I hope you read this and remember it because I'm really interested in how you experience what's to come and I can't wait to hear what you have to say later in the season.
Posting my BUFFY REWATCH recap for ‘Flooded’. May contain spoilers.
Moving on from the whole event of Buffy’s resurrection, ‘Flooded’ has our hero becoming aware of and having to deal with the overwhelming problems that have occurred in the Summers household since her death. Namely money problems. Turns out that she’s almost broke and down in the basement the plumbing system is all out of whack and as soon as she gets down there to sort it with her own two hands - the pipes break and water bursts out everywhere, thoroughly flooding the basement. I interpret this as a metaphor for not knowing her own strength, similar to when she was driving a car with the parking break on in ‘Band Candy’. And in not knowing her own strength - inevitably breaks something she was trying to fix. It is an effective metaphor for the episode and season - there’s just some problems a Slayer can’t resolve. The every day, mundane, adult problems of living life… unless they force themselves to confront them.
While all that’s going on with Buffy, Giles returns and sees his recently resurrected Slayer with his own two eyes. I don’t think he quite believed it until then. Until he was able to directly see her for himself. And with all that Buffy tells him (as well as all that she doesn’t, of which he picks up on most), he is seriously worried. This concern for her culminates in the kitchen where he finds Willow and asks her to explain what happened when she performed the spell that resurrected Buffy. The scene we get between them is the most memorable part of the whole episode and, as far as I’m concerned, one of the most memorable scenes in the whole show. We have never really seen Willow and Giles argue thus far. I mean… there’s been times when Giles has warned Willow about using magic and has explained that were she to, to do so responsibly and take it very seriously. But Willow has never been brave or bold enough to argue back at Giles. Not until now. Not until this conversation.
Willow is so proud of herself for what she has achieved in successfully bringing Buffy back to life that her pride makes her arrogant and entitled. Not only does she believe that she’s in the right for what she’s done… but she is absolutely adamant that she should be praised for it too. The fact Giles isn’t impressed by her actions throws her for a loop. Because she thought he would be. Hence her excitement in him asking her about performing the spell. She feels no shame whatsoever and has no hesitancy in explaining just how dark and dangerous it was to perform. As if she completely forgot that Giles is well… Giles. The oldest Scooby member. The retired librarian she once considered her mentor and her his protégée. The man she used to have a crush on. And the teacher who always reminded her to be careful and responsible in dealing with the mystical and supernatural forces.
Willow is so consumed and in over-her-head with her magical power that she is completely oblivious to how other people feel about her constant use of it. She proceeds to defend herself from Giles and threatens him. In her mind, he no longer has the power to tell her what to do or how to think. With her growing power, her belief is that the student has surpassed the teacher… so the teacher is no longer relevant or needed. Which is in stark contrast to the way Buffy regards Giles going forward in the season. He is so relevant and needed to her because she can’t face up to life’s trials and tribulations. So long as he is around to be the adult, she doesn’t have to be. This means she can wallow in her deepening depression at being forcibly pulled out of heaven by Willow and ignore everything else going on in her unwanted experience.
The bleak and dark themes of depression and addiction are starting to become known to us as the audience. In order to tolerate watching Season 6, you have to be willing to acknowledge the most honest and real thing of all about living the human experience. It’s not a TV show. So it will not always look or feel good from an observer’s perspective on it. I know all the complaints fans have with Season 6. Most of all the complaint that it doesn’t look or feel like ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’. But I want to reiterate the metaphor of ‘flooding the basement’. It’s not meant to look or feel like Buffy. That’s the point. You’re meant to be overwhelmed by the bleakness and the darkness episode to episode. I understand that it’s difficult to watch. But if you can’t face the difficulty in merely only watching Season 6 happen… how will you ever be able to deal with the difficulty of your own? This season forces you to learn lessons. And whereas you might have the belief that TV art/entertainment shouldn’t do that because you’re supposed to be entertained by it, I am very grateful that I can learn from it as hard as it is to watch it. I for one appreciate Season 6 so much for being honest and real and raw to the point where Buffy does not look or feel like Buffy. Again, that’s the artistic point!
Of course the counsel doesn't pay the slayers. Doesn't surprise me. Remember that test when the slayers are 18? Slayers are highly expendable and seen more like a weapon than a person by the counsel.
GILES: “She’s not your bloody instrument and you have no right to do any of this!”
Sofie, do you remember back in season 2 when you talked about how perfect Buffy and Angel were together and how you couldn't see her being with anyone else? I couldn't say it back then but... I think Buffy and Spike make a better couple, even now. Spike gives Buffy his whole focus and he uses his ability to cut through the BS and see inside people to see what's bothering Buffy. He shows up when she needs him but he isn't cramming himself everywhere in her life. I know that right now she only sees him as someone in her life she can talk to about the situation without worrying about hurting his feelings, but sometimes when you're depressed having someone like that in your life can really help.
Yeah, and then they go and ruin all that wonderful character development for Spike.
I love hearing your insights into the characters
She’s so good isn’t she? Dead on all the damn time. Not just with predictions but with picking up on detail that is never explained or delineated but makes total sense. I love an observant, insightful reactor that uses interpretation to the greatest effect.
Willow and Tara helping with bills and what not has been discussed in the BTVS fan community till it is blue in the face. One thing everyone has to remember is that we don't actually see their entire lives. Each episode only shows us the highlights and takes place in only a few days, it is rare we see five days in a row during an episode let alone an entire week. This was more obvious during the early seasons (where every scene took place during a school day and very rarely were any scenes on a Saturday or Sunday) than it is in later seasons. We just do not know at all whether or not if Willow and Tara were helping with food or what not during the days the episodes did not happen. They very well could have been helping out. I personally think with all the money Willow and Tara were saving on dorm fees (room and board) for college by not living in the dorms that they were very likely using that money to help out.
On the Watcher's Council not paying the Slayer. Think back to the Season 3 Episode Helpless and the Season 5 Episode Checkpoint. To the Watcher's Council, the Slayer is expendable, a tool, a weapon, nothing more. Travers said that much in both of those episodes. Sadly the Watcher's Council, at least as long as Travers is the head of it, will never pay the Slayer because they don't see them as anything but a fire and done weapon.
On Giles giving part of his money to Buffy. That I can agree with. Especially when he is co-owner with Anya of the Magic Box and was being paid to be the librarian at Sunnydale High in seasons 1 through 3. He had extra money between the Watcher's Council and his everyday jobs. He could have helped her out.
While true we don't see what happens 24x7 one would imagine that they putting in money would have been brought up during the discussion but the only thing they mentioned was that Joyce had left money that now had dried up. It's been a common theme since the start that the scoobies expect Buffy to solve every problem, I mean it's one of the reasons why they brought her back to life this very season, it was not just that they missed her.
@@Henrik_Holst You are right of course. But here is something to think about. When did the money dry up exactly. Was it in that episode or before? That's not mentioned other than saying it was gone. So for argument sake lets say it dried up during the summer? Where were they getting money for food, electricity and what not during that time? Yes it should have been mentioned but Willow and Tara had to be paying something at the very least while Buffy was dead.
@@BrennaUrbangirl Depends of course on just how much Joyce left behind, how much of the supposed hospital bills that where covered by insurance and so forth. Which of course is completely impossible for us to know.
Food I guess they pay for themselves, but that is an expense that I put down in the selfish corner. It just strikes me quite odd that they just hand over "you have unpaid bills" till Buffy and not throwing in a "we have managed to pay some of them with our own money, helping out as much as we could", I meant that is what normal people would do.
Then this is a tv-show so what normal people would do and what writers think of characters would do is of course different things so what we have left with is this 20 year old debate as you mentioned yourself :-)
My main reason for doubting that they did help out financially is that they have always expected Buffy to be the one to fix everything, I mean the main reason they decided to resurrect her was not that they missed her emotionally or to help her get out of a potential hell dimension, it was so that she could fix a problem for them (no Slayer in Sunnydale). Add to that how angry they where with her in S3x02 for "forcing" them to do "her work".
edit: sorry, I didn't realize that I had already made the last point in my first reply. So wasn't my intention to nag about that!
06:17 It is amazing how you figured out Xander to a T here 👏 Well done!
Fear is his character’s theme all throughout the whole show. Not just this season. It’s just they don’t focus on his character enough for you to really get a sense of it… until now. And even then people don’t pick it up. People don’t see it. SoFie immediately saw it. And that’s a mark of just how good of a reactor she is.
I like how you noticed that the lights are a bit darker. I watched the whole show and maybe such lights are the sign for this season agenda. But it's not depressing. That will be other word. Probably 'dark' is the right one.
But anyway it's all part of characters path. And many will be in search of themselves, breaking barriers. Which will eventually influence next season too.
p.s I like Buffy and Spike here too. They are pure here. There is care there
I remember watching this episode when it first aired over 20 years ago, and feeling so angry that they basically resurrected Buffy to keep a roof over their heads. I never really got over my annoyance at them in this episode, actually.
Yes, the Slayer should be paid for her time & effort by the Council... But Tara and Willow should be paying rent, they are both living there for months (7 months?) and now Buffy is taking care of Dawn again. Just saying IF we're getting real world.
This is the adult age now it is harder
Love the reactions❤️
They have gotten used to a programmable Buffy that they can fix over and over again, now they don't know what to do with real Buffy. Before they brought her back, everyone was sad and Buffy-bot was happy. Now everyone is happy and Buffy is sad.
Oh brilliant deduction!
Basically they want Buffy to be perfect.
Some commenters on other reactions claim that they never _say_ that Tara and Willow don't contribute, but I think it's the other way around. Given the situation, whatever Tara and Willow contribute (if they were) _should_ be mentioned. Their silence thunders all up and down the show. Neither of them are employed that we can see and I'm pretty sure we'd have seen it if they were. So, yeah, it looks like they're freeloading. And did the insurance money only get spent on hospital bills? None of it on, say, magical supplies?
*Buffy:* "So we'll pay him.What's the big deal?" *Displate Spot:* "The best deal of the year is live!"Did they make this on purpose?!?😅
03:09 - 03:25 I haven't known about the"Angel"spin-off for a looooooong time,but...Anya's not wrong!😅I mean...being a Slayer is *literally* a job...and a dangerous one!!And I know superheroes are always like:"I won't ask to be payed for saving lives!"but I mean...why not?Other people do...like..you know..doctors,for example?🤷♂And it's not like Buffy would do it out of greed...she literally needs the money to survive and..how is she supposed to keep saving people if she can't afford to eat?🤷♂"No one fights with an empty stomach.U-U"
05:15 - 05:17 PAINFUL SPOILER: Yeah...tell that to Warren.😓🤬💢
07:23 - 07:28 I *strongly disagree* but I knew you would have said it.😓
08:19 - 08:29 AHAHAHAHAH!Your face...!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
08:32 - 08:47 The Trio in a nutshell.😂
11:15 - 11:22 I'm sorry,guys,but Alyson Hannigan's cuteness makes literally *IMPOSSIBLE* for me to be mad at Willow Rosenberg,even when I know I should!! It's like... _I'm under her spell..._ you know?;-3 (GOSH! It's SO SATISFYING being allowed to make these lame jokes without worrying about spoiling stuff!)
11:50 - 11:58 Ouch. :-S
12:11 - 12:14 Yeah...I get his PoV...😕 12:15 - 12:35 , 12:45 - 13:05 Yes.😨
16:47 - 17:09 *I WISH!!!!!!* Remember I didn't know the spin-off existed when I watched this...I was *SO DISAPPOINTED* I was like:"I had to bear Spike for *3 full seasons* non-stop and *the only time* they mention Angel they don't even SHOW HIM to me?!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" #TeamAngel 🖤 #Bangel 💛🖤
19:06 - 19:15 Yes 💛...apart from the whole Souless-Spike-Behaving-Totally-Like-a-Human-Thing which *NO* I will *NEVER* not complain about!X-[ 21:05 - 21:09 Yeah.Same!🙄😒💢
in my opinion the council sees people like Buffy as a tool they use and own, so why pay them? moreover, Buffy is actually outside of that category as they have no control over her.And as for the three jerks, for me they remain the strangest part of the show.
Im sorry , that is Not another Depressing Season. Is the Most depressive and Deep of all . The Change from wb to upn let them more Freedom to Go deeper and darker. For me is maybe with Season 3 the best one.
I don't know if the Council pays other slayers, but with Buffy there's an issue of control, if she becomes their employee she'd have to do what they say. At the least they should've paid her as a teenager, even if it was in a trust fund. With Willow, I think she always wanted approval.
But the comparison to Angel is also an issue the show brought up. The Council pay for work that people won't do otherwise. Buffy's slayerness is a calling, so she would slay even if the council wasn't paying her. They just need to hire a watcher to manage her. It mirrors the patriarchal setup we see in the real world of single moms, where they have to choose between losing control over their calling or having to provide for themselves. Angel gets to start a business and charge money, for so many reasons that would require much deeper analysis.
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Spoilers for the comics: Giles, argh!!! If you know, you know.
Oh just wait...
Hey Sofie, if eventually you wonder what show to watch I have a few recommendation: ''Once Upon a Time'' , ''Person of Interest'' and ''Orphan Black''
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@@divinelangene6813 it was such a good show for the first four seasons. It went downhill afterwards...
@@Brilleetoile still loved it anyway, but your right
@@Brilleetoile I think it was amazing the full 7 seasons.
In the first 3 seasons Willow lacked self-confidence until 'Doppelgangland'. Then in 'Something Blue' she cast a spell that made her will be done. Last season she teleported Glory and reversed the brain-drain to fix Tara who was scare how much Willow's power was growing.
I know you've already seen all of this season so you know how the show treats magic literally as an addictive drug, not even a metaphor. And her character changed. I think that's just bad writing.
And yes this whole season demonstrates what a downer becoming an adult is. There are benefits to that too but we don't see much of that reflected here.
I'm very ambivalent about this season.
" you know how the show treats magic literally as an addictive drug, not even a metaphor. And her character changed. I think that's just bad writing."
I have a rant brewing about this once we get to those episodes (too spoilery to do now), but for now I'll just say: Amen!
@@DanielOrme ooo I’m intrigued to read that rant because I see it as completely the opposite. But I like reading differing opinions to my own. Especially if they’re well reasoned.
Tara perceived something was wrong with Willow and her use of magic when they had this dispute and she said that she was affraid how Willow evolved into the supernatural arts.
Shhhh… that hasn’t happened.
I hope Sofie doesn’t read comments.
@@EvanSawyer4 she’s well passed this point on Patreon now so don’t worry.
@@Girl4Music Oh nice!
@@EvanSawyer4 I refer to S5E19, "Tough Love" when they have this dispute and Tara leaves, to have her brain eaten by Glory.
@@qrsx66 except that turned into an argument of “am I not gay enough for you?’ instead of actually addressing Tara’s concern over Willow using too much magic.
And now we have reached to the worst villain in the series. And by worst I mean the worst kind of human crap that walks the earth.
I feel like the subtitles are abit spoiler-ish for the dialogues that’s about to come lol
Yeah this is when I really started to not like Willow
The trio🙄
Depressing Sofie? I’ve never viewed the series in that way. Over 7 seasons it combined both the most humorous AND heartfelt moments like few series ever had. Considering its budgetary limitations and two networks that were not always supportive its just remarkable. BTW: Absolutely LOVE your reactions. As someone old enough to have watched the show live, your sincerity and intelligence is world class.
It just hurts to see our once perky Buffy so depressed
The show started to get depressing way back to the season 5, actually. Season 6 is more of an extended "exploration" of it
@@Brilleetoile I know its semantics; but I’ve never viewed well written / acted ‘sad’ story lines as ‘depressing’. Depressing to me is morbid for the sake of morbid. Whedon lost his own mother at 27yo from a car crash and that traumatic event will come through his writing. To each their own; I know people who say the light hearted moments are their fav’s and others who live for the heavy moments. This is a rare show that has both in abundance.
@@divinelangene6813 I know its semantics; but I’ve never viewed well written / acted ‘sad’ story lines as ‘depressing’. Depressing to me is morbid for the sake of morbid. Whedon lost his own mother at 27yo from a car crash and that traumatic event will come through his writing. To each their own; I know people who say the light hearted moments are their fav’s and others who live for the heavy moments. This is a rare show that has both in abundance.
Great video!!! 😍😍😍
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i really really dislike the buffy/spike thing, i find nothing cute or romantic about this two never liked it
Same video title twice in a row and first buffy in 2 weeks