+Ess Shots TPAB is prolly the best album of 2015 and as for Summertime 06, it's top 10 of the year and Vince Staples is getting his due. As for soul, TPAB is nothing but soul, the samples, the features, and Kendrick's lyrics.
+ilnumeroperfetto696 and what you got against Kanye, he is a great producer, and he is one of the best with soul samples, up there with Dilla, 9th Wonder, and DOOM.
9th seems like a humble dude man ...ive noticed in several interviews and videos he does not liked to be praised . btw his producing is bumpin ...soul !!
These are the types of classes I would literally go out of my way to take lmao. Like stay on campus when my regular classes were over and sneak into this lecture and just listen in. Masters at work here
crazy that it's a class about sampling soul and j dilla's name gets brought up literally one time by 9th wonder. somehow "sampling soul" becomes more about nas's lyrical skills.
It's ironic that 9th Wonder, as a musician, seemed to have come more prepared for an academic conversation than the actual professor. The professor spends the entire lecture trying to devolve the class into a bunch of guys sitting around and talking about who's hot now, who was hot then, and who's better than who -- you know, the kind of conversations that we're all having with our friends, on the couch, on a daily basis. Seriously? We're going to list our favorite top 5 MC's and top 5 producers, without going into any depth on any of them? This 90 minute video had about 15 minutes of valuable, insightful information, and it would have been way better spent if they'd just gone through Illmatic, track-by-track, offering academic insight on the lyrics, background of the samples, and why tracks may have been produced the way that they were. This class had absolutely no structure, and you can just tell that 9th Wonder was completely equipped to go as deep and be as disciplined as the atmosphere would justify. I love that a class like this exists, but its potential was squandered, here, and it makes it seem like hip-hop culture wouldn't stand up to true academic scrutiny at the collegiate level -- and that's a shame, because it really would, and it deserves a better discussion. I guarantee you that the students present were disappointed, too, and I'm sure that the topic matter would have been richer and explored more deeply if it'd just been a question-and-answer with 9th Wonder.
I know that 9th Wonder is capable of accomplishing GREAT things but I feel that he wants to remain underground for the most part. I dont get it. He's the legend that 'no one' knows
Think of sampling like conducting an orchestra the conductor of the orchestra does not play any instruments, but signals the musicians to play. If the conductor wants more violin he signals the violin he chooses the tempo and what plays just like a producer finding the instruments to break up or "sample" in an original song and play them at there speed to there liking. Making something completely different. Hip hop needs sampling without it there would be no way of labeling the music there would be no independent artist. Hip hop can be made with instruments too, but there is only one "Roots".
+Daivd hernandez Sampling is nothing like conducting an orchestra...You need to actually STUDY music in order to be a conductor...Sampling takes little effort and even less talent...
+kirill g (cellardoor7) I'm a fan of good music and honest music....not stolen moments from creative musicians thrown together by some non talented punk that never studied music ....or played it....
+freein2339 I don't know you and do not know your knowledge of music theory/composition but, while I will always respect other's opinions, I wholeheartedly disagree with yours on sampling and the knowledge/skill it takes to use it effectively. I strongly urge you to with an open mind look into what producers like 9th Wonder, DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Madlib, etc do to produce these beats. Anyone can chop a sample and put some drums behind it, but it takes someone with true understanding of music composition and theory to produce the classics that these guys have. Again, I don't want to come off like I'm insulting your intelligence but many people, including me at one point in time, don't truly understand what goes into sampling and producing in hip hop.
Glad to hear Premo get props. I think he is Picasso. His work should not be seen as mere sampling. Kool G father of Modern Queens lyrical tree of which Nas modernized. He included quicker story and imagery content and hooks. Also added more abstract content. Influenced whole region of MC's.
Three very intelligent men, with different opinions, and complete respect for each other and the art. Hip-hop bringing it all together. Really enjoyed this.
LISTEN .... NAS Word play in the world is yours..is quite possibly the greatest example of hip hop lyricism if ever recorded,... it is 100% original thus 100% pure and cannot be duplicated to this day !. even as a 17 yrd old I knew I was witnessing greatest the very first time I heard it !
@JosephCee You're right Madlib is one cat who should have been mentioned. His body of work is huge and his quality is consistently banging. Besides producing hip hop tracks this brother plays several instruments and gets all kinds of music.
If only my school had classes like this man. I was born in 91 im just now going back and rediscovering the albums of the "golden era" of hip hop. I would really enjoy myself in something like this.
Gonna be honest, I didn't know about illmatic or about Nas's history. I'm not from the USA, I'm from the UK but I'm still ashamed; and now very enlightened and inspired, great lecture!
Great lecture. I would love to sit in on a discussion like this at my school. I have to say Jay Dee is a producer and should be on everyone's top 5 list. And how is Guru missing from the top 5 mc's list?
I'm actually much more skilled at playing instruments than I am at production using samplers, turntables, etc. Probably because I have been playing guitar, bass, and piano much longer. I started producing hip hop and downtempo instrumentals a few years ago and fell in love with it for one reason: it's fun. There is nothing like experimenting with sound and chopping samples. It's something completely different than using instruments and I feel from my experience it is equally creative. PEACE.
Ah man this was dope! I wish they could revisit this conversation today, 12 years later especially talking about some of the artist who were newer at that time, like J. Cole, Wale, Drake, Lupe. I definitely feel like Lupe deserves his flowers for his body of work now.
I do my own work. I grew up on these old classics and sampling brings back a lot of old memories and is nostalgic. It also feeds inspiration, inspiration that for me personally isn't only gained thru live instrumentation, but through sampling. There's no personal gain there, it's just inspiring and that my friend is not PATHETIC.
lol I love how sad they are about modern hip hop, but the game completely changed the very next year with Kendrick's Section 80 and J Cole's Cole World. They're right, hip hop moves quick.
This was absolutely beautiful. Such an educational video. This is why I am who I am. I am a 90's baby, 21 years of age. I didn't grow up on rap. Being of west Indian decent I was brought up on soca and calypso, but since the dreadful day in fifth grade I was gawked at for not knowing "Trick Daddy" I've educated myself in the world of hip hop, became a hip hop artist, and 3 days ago (09/09/2011) a producer of my own beats. Illmatic, no hip hop changed my life.- Jemi Vasco. See you soon.
The level of Nas' wordplay is that the movie Belly is basically Illmatic and It Was Written on screen. It was like Hype Williams just listened to both albums and made a movie. It was more than One Love. The Message especially the second verse. In the movie Nas' character is talking to Az character and some dudes walk up and shoot Nas in the leg and he gives the "biscuit" to the barber. Also the name of the dude that shot him is named Black same in the song. Street Dreams is how DMX character feels. Shootouts first verse is basically the opening scene. Instead of a snitch and cop in an apartment. It's a club and the way they burst in to rob it. Black Girl Lost is multiple women in the movie. If I Ruled the World is basically Nas' character's feeling in remorse of having to deal with street life and wanting to go back to Africa. Just so much more just these the ones that stand out. I feel Nas won and Nas is the greatest Lyricist ever. Ever since JDilla passed Madlib has been the hardest working beat maker right now. The catalog of beat tapes he has is crazy
and make something more vibrant, attractive, and appealing to the younger generation so that they appreciate where this music actually comes from, is indeed a gift that the average producer/joe shmo, simply just wasn't meant or born to do. That's why sampling is an art form and is a necessity. It is because the average person just doesn't have the God gifted skill set to do so, you have to be a student of that genre of music and learn that distinction of the beauty of this hip-hop music.
I'm glad this was done in front of a audience in the "Wayne/Trap/Club age". Some serious wisdom for your mental. A real perspective on hip hop. They should do this more often.
I remember when I finally listen to Nasty Nas Illmatic album I was 20 I still am 20 but it was like may 2021 and it was fantastic man every sone is great production is perfect man that album is fantastic shout out all the producers on there and of course Nas man for real🐐 and shout out DJ premier he had 3 joint of that classic album and it’s only 10 songs🤯🔥🔥💯📈🐐🔜📈
It was written is nas best album. Complete in every aspect. Illmatic was genius. It pushed the envelope of rap and displayed his raw talent but it was written was just phenomenal
Thank you for posting this. I haven't been able to stop listening to Illmatic for the past month, and this lecture helped uncover a lot of related information that I found to be really interesting. Thanks again.
freein2339 What the heck are you talking about? You say 9th doesn't know nothing about music? Did you really said that? Do some research, he is a walking encyclopedy of hiphop, which is a musical genre, and he knows sooo much about soul, funk and jazz. He was teaching at Duke and Harvard abut hip hop history, about samples, which came from soul music. For that, you need to know a "little" about music.
I wish this was at my college for audio advance production in 2000!I went to IAMD in Chicago for interactivemedia and my professor made the hit for busta and Janet cho!
What made Rakim so great to me in the 80's was his original rhyme style and unreal lyricism. He didn't sound like RunDmc, Whodini, Kurtis Blow, etc. He was innovative and original for the times and the same with Nas. peace!
I never heard anything like this lecture, seems like a great way to fuel people's interest in the music and not just Nas. Also - 9th reacting to the description of Lupe Fiasco was some funny stuff! Thank you for sharing.
I Love to sample! then add other instruments on top! makes for some great music to some. i dont play any instruments. but having the ability to chop samples and recreate something new is a talent all in it self. even if i dont chop it and just loop it..it is in mind still a form of musical talent.
theirs to many great beats that i herd for me to say one is the greatest. any tru hip hop fan will understand what i mean because thiers underground , main stream , and up in coming producers . hip hop for life
All respect to the brotha Peterson, from Jersey, cuz I'm from Newark also, but he deserves to get a SMACK that of his top 5, although this is subjective, but to discount Rakim is blasphemous. Rakim changed the game of being an emcee with the use of the metaphors and a hint of the 5 percent lingo. There would be no Nas without Rakim. Why do you think Nas made a song dedicated to Rakim.
my point was that the sampler is a beutiful tool/instrument.and if u think about it the sampler is like a camera when thinking of a comparison and the layering and sequencing of samples would be the collage,to sample a record is like taking a photo of a live situation (as opposed to a booth) ,you capture so much atmosphere in there what with everything going on in the background, no matter how subtle,its magical..inever mentiond hip hop been a comparison of such and such.hip hops a culture
11:20 academic bounce :-) very interesting stuff, they should do a documentary called : "94" (including fall of '93 albums) it truelly is a legendary year,the movie should evolve around primo,since he worked with almost everybody (don't forget epmd btw) and Dj premier played a keyrole in hiphop...true legends!
"Street Knowledge amazed the scholars/on how we coin phrases for for dollars" -Sauce Money, from Jay-Z's ,"Bring It On"....good to see the great hip hop classics shown light at the colleges.
man i feel they never advertise these things enough... i live in a college town, dont go to the school but am inside the halls more than youd think and I just missed one of the best guitarists Derek Trucks.... come didnt even advertise it!!!
Everybody had the illmatic. it was bootlegged heavy on the street. the african bootleggers were selling out of illmatic on the street. real copies sold worldwide are about 15 million
Lauren Hill's content is incredible, her delivery is impecable, but as far as a lady MC who mastered her craft and was again ahead of her time I'd have to say MC Lyte. If she were a brother she'd be placed among cats like Rakim, KRS, LL Cool J, Kool G Rap, etc. I'd say she is one of the most slept on masters in the game.
Thank you, it was an outstanding lecture; I would've loved to have been there. Illmatic is one of my favorite records of all time. I strongly disagree that Jay-Z was better than Nas on Black Republican, but I do agree that Jay-Z outshone him on Success. The top 5 discussion near the end was amazing. No spoilers, but I was EXTREMELY glad for who Dr. James Peterson picked as the number 4 rapper. I'm happy to hear he gets his recognition and respect where it is needed.
I bought Streets Disciple. The Intro is crazy, and when he rhymes over road to riches is way tight, "Nas thinks he's Farakan, preachin blackness. Hell yeah. Awareness is my Alias"
I found it interesting to find the lack of recognition or response when the tracks are played...like these students really have no emotional tie in. Very telling.
They still have video music box! Nas had a buzz in NYC thanks to Bobito the Barber and DJ Stretch Armstrong. AZ burned Nas on that track? Stillmatic is his come back for those that thinks he fell off, nailed his skills, just to come back like that many emcees won't be able to do. The artistry in ether is better then the Take Over, record for record but Jay statements are more consistent. KRS, Kane, Rakim, Nas & Jay Z - Primo, Pete Rock, Dre, Dilla & Kayne. Great discussion, We need more!
Now i wouldn't mind paying 40k a year to be taught amongst people like this.
Seriously. Wish I had classes like these
You don't appreciate music like you think. Any college music program can transform you past 9th wonder.
Amongst us
Berklee mass lowest tuition is about 45k. If I could afford it I would've for sure.
Farkoff
To Pimp a Butterfly will one day have that kind of academic attention. Hopefully.
Definitely will be. It's so dense in samples, content, and consciousness. They already doing it with Kanye albums.
what are you talking about?
+Edgar Rivera Average album, nothing special about it.
+Ess Shots TPAB is prolly the best album of 2015 and as for Summertime 06, it's top 10 of the year and Vince Staples is getting his due. As for soul, TPAB is nothing but soul, the samples, the features, and Kendrick's lyrics.
+ilnumeroperfetto696 and what you got against Kanye, he is a great producer, and he is one of the best with soul samples, up there with Dilla, 9th Wonder, and DOOM.
9th seems like a humble dude man ...ive noticed in several interviews and videos he does not liked to be praised . btw his producing is bumpin ...soul !!
I see it too real humble guy
It’s dope he’s a big fan of hip hop before anything really. I think all the best producers are like that
Cause he's focused on the music 🎵🎵
@@a.s.9fcp937 gotta be thats how u get into it
so damn humble
Shit why so many seats empty? When 9th comes to class you show the fuck up.
+tr1ptan Why....it's not like he's teaching music.....
+tr1ptan coz its Duke
for real
because REAL HIPHOP is sacred (a few are chosen) and majority are wack!!
@ The Blank; I agree with you. 9th is a diamond in the ruff.
This is amazing. An entire talk about Illmatic?? Daaaaam! 94 is the best year in hip hop. No question.
no brother 93 till infiniti lol
96
At least in the 90s, I personally like the 2010s more but I assume y'all don't
94 is definitely the best year for hip hop
@@TraverseRaps lol you smoking meth bro
These are the types of classes I would literally go out of my way to take lmao. Like stay on campus when my regular classes were over and sneak into this lecture and just listen in. Masters at work here
Cedrick Highsmith, Duke Universary
why did noone show up to this lecture?
they in the gym watching their Squad hoop.
Shit, I'd be front row
Upcoming trap music fans went home early
Samurai Champloo to Nujabes to J Dilla to 9th Wonder led me to this. I'm trying to educate myself on music production from the OGs
I feel you.
RIP the god Seba Jun aka Nujabes!!!
No way that's crazy! Samurai champloo got the best anime music of all time IMO. RIP Nujabes RIP J Dilla they were masters on the cut
crazy that it's a class about sampling soul and j dilla's name gets brought up literally one time by 9th wonder. somehow "sampling soul" becomes more about nas's lyrical skills.
9th wonder is the king of soul sampling thouh he should be talking about his own stuff! Yeah bro and i dint get it either
This is a class specifically on nas thats why other classes were about other artists/producers this is just one lecture of many my friend
Literally I was gonna say, that if anyone needs to have a class focused on their music about “Sampling Soul” Jdilla should be at the top of the list.
would it be okay to smoke a blunt in the lecture hall during this?
It's ironic that 9th Wonder, as a musician, seemed to have come more prepared for an academic conversation than the actual professor. The professor spends the entire lecture trying to devolve the class into a bunch of guys sitting around and talking about who's hot now, who was hot then, and who's better than who -- you know, the kind of conversations that we're all having with our friends, on the couch, on a daily basis. Seriously? We're going to list our favorite top 5 MC's and top 5 producers, without going into any depth on any of them? This 90 minute video had about 15 minutes of valuable, insightful information, and it would have been way better spent if they'd just gone through Illmatic, track-by-track, offering academic insight on the lyrics, background of the samples, and why tracks may have been produced the way that they were.
This class had absolutely no structure, and you can just tell that 9th Wonder was completely equipped to go as deep and be as disciplined as the atmosphere would justify. I love that a class like this exists, but its potential was squandered, here, and it makes it seem like hip-hop culture wouldn't stand up to true academic scrutiny at the collegiate level -- and that's a shame, because it really would, and it deserves a better discussion. I guarantee you that the students present were disappointed, too, and I'm sure that the topic matter would have been richer and explored more deeply if it'd just been a question-and-answer with 9th Wonder.
Lavish Deluna saved me some time, thanks
9th wonder is not a musician....
@@freein2339 Yes he is
9th is in my top 5 as producers, Apollo Brown as well. Premo is The Godfather along with Pete Rock.
I know that 9th Wonder is capable of accomplishing GREAT things but I feel that he wants to remain underground for the most part. I dont get it. He's the legend that 'no one' knows
He’s keeping his craft pure and enjoying this thing called life.
He's a Grammy Award winner. People know him...or KNEW him.
@@CarolineJones1994 yup 100%
Damn, just got goose bumps when they put on "It Aint Hard To Tell"
This Lp is such a classic!
Think of sampling like conducting an orchestra the conductor of the orchestra does not play any instruments, but signals the musicians to play. If the conductor wants more violin he signals the violin he chooses the tempo and what plays just like a producer finding the instruments to break up or "sample" in an original song and play them at there speed to there liking. Making something completely different. Hip hop needs sampling without it there would be no way of labeling the music there would be no independent artist. Hip hop can be made with instruments too, but there is only one "Roots".
+Daivd hernandez Sampling is nothing like conducting an orchestra...You need to actually STUDY music in order to be a conductor...Sampling takes little effort and even less talent...
+freein2339 are you a fan of hip-hop?
+Daivd hernandez While your idea of a conductor is completely butchered and confused with a composer i get what you are saying...
+kirill g (cellardoor7) I'm a fan of good music and honest music....not stolen moments from creative musicians thrown together by some non talented punk that never studied music ....or played it....
+freein2339 I don't know you and do not know your knowledge of music theory/composition but, while I will always respect other's opinions, I wholeheartedly disagree with yours on sampling and the knowledge/skill it takes to use it effectively. I strongly urge you to with an open mind look into what producers like 9th Wonder, DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Madlib, etc do to produce these beats. Anyone can chop a sample and put some drums behind it, but it takes someone with true understanding of music composition and theory to produce the classics that these guys have. Again, I don't want to come off like I'm insulting your intelligence but many people, including me at one point in time, don't truly understand what goes into sampling and producing in hip hop.
kendrick has jumped into my top 5 and i think in 5-10 years hell be in everyones
Impressively predicted!
Bring more lecture to bring more knowledge of the artistic value of street poetry…love these sessions
I'm very grateful that you: "duke university" uploaded this. Where I come from hip hop is very minimal. This was an amazing thank you.
Glad to hear Premo get props. I think he is Picasso. His work should not be seen as mere sampling. Kool G father of Modern Queens lyrical tree of which Nas modernized. He included quicker story and imagery content and hooks. Also added more abstract content. Influenced whole region of MC's.
Three very intelligent men, with different opinions, and complete respect for each other and the art. Hip-hop bringing it all together. Really enjoyed this.
So stoked to see this! 9th Wonder, Clark (Warp) and Quest Love are the best beat makers in the world since the jazz era.
Quest Love up there but I put J dilla and 9th wonder in a class of their own
LISTEN ....
NAS Word play in the world is yours..is quite possibly the greatest example of hip hop lyricism if ever recorded,...
it is 100% original thus 100% pure and cannot be duplicated to this day !.
even as a 17 yrd old I knew I was witnessing greatest the very first time I heard it !
@JosephCee You're right Madlib is one cat who should have been mentioned. His body of work is huge and his quality is consistently banging. Besides producing hip hop tracks this brother plays several instruments and gets all kinds of music.
If only my school had classes like this man. I was born in 91 im just now going back and rediscovering the albums of the "golden era" of hip hop. I would really enjoy myself in something like this.
10 people in the live audience, 300,000 viewers on the internet. That shit is encouraging
Gonna be honest, I didn't know about illmatic or about Nas's history. I'm not from the USA, I'm from the UK but I'm still ashamed; and now very enlightened and inspired, great lecture!
Great lecture. I would love to sit in on a discussion like this at my school.
I have to say Jay Dee is a producer and should be on everyone's top 5 list. And how is Guru missing from the top 5 mc's list?
Guru's amazing but he ain't shit without Premo
@@TraverseRaps idk about that his single albums jazzmatazz you get to see him in his purest form, with and without prem guru is up there.
@@TraverseRaps the cosmos were aligned for them to encounter🤷🏽♂️
@@TraverseRaps cap bro jazmatazz was nuts
Wow I would love this class...why haven't I heard of this?I'm jealous...and 9th wonder sitting in..I'd be geekin lmao..too dope
9th Wonder at Duke makes me wish I would have tried a little harder in high school.
9th is a legend beat wise but he's a lil sensitive on fb
Deleting everyone that's disagrees
With his post.. Straight emotional guy
Dope that the dude mentioned BLU and his Below The Heavens masterpiece. NICE!!!!
Blu and exile made art with that one. It's such a slept on album!
I really enjoyed this conversation. I’d like to hear another conversation about NAS being that NAS recently won a grammy.
9th Wonder's voice.
Nuff said.
nuff said.
nuff said.
I'm actually much more skilled at playing instruments than I am at production using samplers, turntables, etc. Probably because I have been playing guitar, bass, and piano much longer. I started producing hip hop and downtempo instrumentals a few years ago and fell in love with it for one reason: it's fun. There is nothing like experimenting with sound and chopping samples. It's something completely different than using instruments and I feel from my experience it is equally creative. PEACE.
I'm such a 9th wonder fan
9th and Rhapsody set the soundtrack for my childhood in Raleigh.
Ah man this was dope! I wish they could revisit this conversation today, 12 years later especially talking about some of the artist who were newer at that time, like J. Cole, Wale, Drake, Lupe. I definitely feel like Lupe deserves his flowers for his body of work now.
Cedrick HIghsmith, Duke Universery
This should be taught in public schools.
Illmatic is one of the best records ever made
Nas and premo are se of the best artists to ever live nas lyrically premo producer wise is one of the best
man, I would love to be in this class!!
Word man... Im sad I start producing after I got out of college.
I do my own work. I grew up on these old classics and sampling brings back a lot of old memories and is nostalgic. It also feeds inspiration, inspiration that for me personally isn't only gained thru live instrumentation, but through sampling. There's no personal gain there, it's just inspiring and that my friend is not PATHETIC.
lol I love how sad they are about modern hip hop, but the game completely changed the very next year with Kendrick's Section 80 and J Cole's Cole World. They're right, hip hop moves quick.
Makes me want to go to duke!!!
WOW. Much, much respect to Duke University for even trying a class like this.
Meet Mr Neal at DPAC for the Foreign Exchange, Eric Roberson and Floetry show back in 2018!!! Good peoples!!!!!
Such an awesome class, I wish UNC offered something like this
This was absolutely beautiful. Such an educational video. This is why I am who I am. I am a 90's baby, 21 years of age. I didn't grow up on rap. Being of west Indian decent I was brought up on soca and calypso, but since the dreadful day in fifth grade I was gawked at for not knowing "Trick Daddy" I've educated myself in the world of hip hop, became a hip hop artist, and 3 days ago (09/09/2011) a producer of my own beats. Illmatic, no hip hop changed my life.- Jemi Vasco. See you soon.
No Madlib????
sampling is the foundation of hip hop......period
The level of Nas' wordplay is that the movie Belly is basically Illmatic and It Was Written on screen. It was like Hype Williams just listened to both albums and made a movie. It was more than One Love. The Message especially the second verse. In the movie Nas' character is talking to Az character and some dudes walk up and shoot Nas in the leg and he gives the "biscuit" to the barber. Also the name of the dude that shot him is named Black same in the song. Street Dreams is how DMX character feels. Shootouts first verse is basically the opening scene. Instead of a snitch and cop in an apartment. It's a club and the way they burst in to rob it. Black Girl Lost is multiple women in the movie. If I Ruled the World is basically Nas' character's feeling in remorse of having to deal with street life and wanting to go back to Africa. Just so much more just these the ones that stand out. I feel Nas won and Nas is the greatest Lyricist ever. Ever since JDilla passed Madlib has been the hardest working beat maker right now. The catalog of beat tapes he has is crazy
wow I never noticed that
robny716 yep. I noticed that shortly after that movie was released. I just so happened to listen to One Love and that started the wheels turning.
Basically. That the level of vividity of Nas' rhymes. All Hype had to do is add the other elements but the screenplay was already written.
2022 checking in. This is still enlightening and inspiring.
Thank you so much for saying L-Boogie. Favorite female MC of all time! Lyte, I love you, too, but Lauryn! Damn!
and make something more vibrant, attractive, and appealing to the younger generation so that they appreciate where this music actually comes from, is indeed a gift that the average producer/joe shmo, simply just wasn't meant or born to do. That's why sampling is an art form and is a necessity. It is because the average person just doesn't have the God gifted skill set to do so, you have to be a student of that genre of music and learn that distinction of the beauty of this hip-hop music.
I'm glad this was done in front of a audience in the "Wayne/Trap/Club age". Some serious wisdom for your mental. A real perspective on hip hop. They should do this more often.
I remember when I finally listen to Nasty Nas Illmatic album I was 20 I still am 20 but it was like may 2021 and it was fantastic man every sone is great production is perfect man that album is fantastic shout out all the producers on there and of course Nas man for real🐐 and shout out DJ premier he had 3 joint of that classic album and it’s only 10 songs🤯🔥🔥💯📈🐐🔜📈
It was written is nas best album. Complete in every aspect. Illmatic was genius. It pushed the envelope of rap and displayed his raw talent but it was written was just phenomenal
'It Was Written' has incredible production. One of my favorite albums for sure.
You gotta luv a university that supports an academic study of good music... Big Shalom out to Duke... Might enroll myself...
Thank you for posting this. I haven't been able to stop listening to Illmatic for the past month, and this lecture helped uncover a lot of related information that I found to be really interesting. Thanks again.
Where the fuck are these classes in my school wtfff
dude gets paid to talk about music all day. wonderful job. that would be great, "honey im off to work for the day" and just talk about music. lol.
+DjDz It would be nice if he actually knew something about music other than sampling which anybody can do....
freein2339 No, everybody can't...
Oh really well send me the link to a dope track you made by sampling my guy
freein2339 What the heck are you talking about? You say 9th doesn't know nothing about music? Did you really said that? Do some research, he is a walking encyclopedy of hiphop, which is a musical genre, and he knows sooo much about soul, funk and jazz. He was teaching at Duke and Harvard abut hip hop history, about samples, which came from soul music. For that, you need to know a "little" about music.
It's funny for this to be at Duke. You'd imagine this would be so much more appropriate at UNC.
I wish this was at my college for audio advance production in 2000!I went to IAMD in Chicago for interactivemedia and my professor made the hit for busta and Janet cho!
you guys should record all of these lessons and upload them here, for all the people that dont have the privilege of having awesome teachers
very educative. the end was cool with the discussion about the top 5 rappers and producers
No words for what I'd do to be able to be there for these lectures with 9th.
these seats should be PACKED with this GOAT talk
What made Rakim so great to me in the 80's was his original rhyme style and unreal lyricism. He didn't sound like RunDmc, Whodini, Kurtis Blow, etc. He was innovative and original for the times and the same with Nas. peace!
I never heard anything like this lecture, seems like a great way to fuel people's interest in the music and not just Nas. Also - 9th reacting to the description of Lupe Fiasco was some funny stuff! Thank you for sharing.
Great class but I don't know how a lecture about the music production on Nas' Ilmatic turned into a debate on favorite rappers and Jay-Z vs. Nas
All props given to James Peterson for mentioning Blu "Below the Heavens" CLASSIC MASTERPIECE
I Love to sample! then add other instruments on top! makes for some great music to some. i dont play any instruments. but having the ability to chop samples and recreate something new is a talent all in it self. even if i dont chop it and just loop it..it is in mind still a form of musical talent.
theirs to many great beats that i herd for me to say one is the greatest. any tru hip hop fan will understand what i mean because thiers underground , main stream , and up in coming producers . hip hop for life
It is an African-American studies course at Duke and 9th is the professor.
All respect to the brotha Peterson, from Jersey, cuz I'm from Newark also, but he deserves to get a SMACK that of his top 5, although this is subjective, but to discount Rakim is blasphemous. Rakim changed the game of being an emcee with the use of the metaphors and a hint of the 5 percent lingo. There would be no Nas without Rakim. Why do you think Nas made a song dedicated to Rakim.
my point was that the sampler is a beutiful tool/instrument.and if u think about it the sampler is like a camera when thinking of a comparison and the layering and sequencing of samples would be the collage,to sample a record is like taking a photo of a live situation (as opposed to a booth) ,you capture so much atmosphere in there what with everything going on in the background, no matter how subtle,its magical..inever mentiond hip hop been a comparison of such and such.hip hops a culture
11:20 academic bounce :-) very interesting stuff, they should do a documentary called : "94" (including fall of '93 albums) it truelly is a legendary year,the movie should evolve around primo,since he worked with almost everybody (don't forget epmd btw)
and Dj premier played a keyrole in hiphop...true legends!
"Street Knowledge amazed the scholars/on how we coin phrases for for dollars" -Sauce Money, from Jay-Z's ,"Bring It On"....good to see the great hip hop classics shown light at the colleges.
"Illmatic" is *easily* the best hip-hop album of all-time. Thanks for this upload.
Another talented producer in the world of hip hop. If we could just have one more Little Brother record..
Enjoyed watching, I'm only 19 and can't really talk to my friends about classic hip hop songs but I still like some ofthe new school hip hop as well
man i feel they never advertise these things enough...
i live in a college town, dont go to the school but am inside the halls more than youd think and I just missed one of the best guitarists Derek Trucks.... come
didnt even advertise it!!!
i wish i could be there!...... i too am extremely pissed that this room isn't full of hip hop producers like us.......
Everybody had the illmatic. it was bootlegged heavy on the street. the african bootleggers were selling out of illmatic on the street. real copies sold worldwide are about 15 million
Nas lyrics are truly "Deep like the shining"
Lauren Hill's content is incredible, her delivery is impecable, but as far as a lady MC who mastered her craft and was again ahead of her time I'd have to say MC Lyte. If she were a brother she'd be placed among cats like Rakim, KRS, LL Cool J, Kool G Rap, etc. I'd say she is one of the most slept on masters in the game.
Thank you, it was an outstanding lecture; I would've loved to have been there. Illmatic is one of my favorite records of all time.
I strongly disagree that Jay-Z was better than Nas on Black Republican, but I do agree that Jay-Z outshone him on Success.
The top 5 discussion near the end was amazing. No spoilers, but I was EXTREMELY glad for who Dr. James Peterson picked as the number 4 rapper. I'm happy to hear he gets his recognition and respect where it is needed.
Dude listen closely, Nas dissed him on both tracks
I bought Streets Disciple. The Intro is crazy, and when he rhymes over road to riches is way tight, "Nas thinks he's Farakan, preachin blackness. Hell yeah. Awareness is my Alias"
Much Gratitude
I found it interesting to find the lack of recognition or response when the tracks are played...like these students really have no emotional tie in. Very telling.
This is 🔥 people doing what they actually love.
This video shows just how powerful real hip hop is.
They still have video music box! Nas had a buzz in NYC thanks to Bobito the Barber and DJ Stretch Armstrong. AZ burned Nas on that track? Stillmatic is his come back for those that thinks he fell off, nailed his skills, just to come back like that many emcees won't be able to do. The artistry in ether is better then the Take Over, record for record but Jay statements are more consistent. KRS, Kane, Rakim, Nas & Jay Z - Primo, Pete Rock, Dre, Dilla & Kayne. Great discussion, We need more!
jay electronica damn waiting when this was posted and still waiting
12 years later still a gem
about the stillmatic thing, no question illmatic is superior the lyricism, storytelling, and conciseness was the best
Awesome class!
My top 5 favourite US scene producers would be:
- Premo
- Pete Rock
- Muggs
- Buckshot
- Q-Tip / Dj Honda
I always love a convo on my man nas. and illmatic was a total classic thats unbiased
THE GREATEST MC/LYRICIST OF ALL TIME, Nasir Jones! #NASTYTHENICEST 👑🐐