"I passionately hate camera bumps." I get it buddy. That little wobble when you lay it flat is just annoying to me. Just gimme a slightly thicker phone with a bigger battery. It's one of my reasons for a always using a case that makes sure that my phone can lay flat.
Once you put a case on it, isn't it flat again? That space is used by the case. If that phone was actually that thicc you'd be carrying around an actual brick.
If the phone was thick enough to not have a giant camera bulge, it could have had enough room in the chassis for the stylus, and a headphone jack, and expandable storage.
The fold 4 should have had a recall. I have the 3 and mine goes basically flat still while my step father has the 4 and looks exactly like yours. INSANE.
I have a Fold 2 and it also doesn't open entirely. They told me that they have to change the inside screen and the hinge cause it's one assembly, and it'd cost €600. I didn't do it cause I was hoping the Fold 6 would be a bigger upgrade than the 5. Maybe I should wait for the new One+ and Google foldables.
@@AnotherComputer I have the 3 and my hinge broke, would only open to about 160 degrees, and was told the hinge and inner screen are a single unit and it would be $600 to repair. So I waited for the 6 to be reveled and saw little to no upgrade and went with the 5 from a prime day deal
The biggest holdup I have with getting a Galaxy Fold(or folding phone in general) is seen pretty easily in this video. It's not how nice the Fold 6 is, it's what the Fold 4 looks like after 2 years. The bubbling up on Fold screens, micro cracks, hinge not opening all the way, etc. - it's not quite at the level of reliability I would be comfortable with. It's a real shame too because every time I see the Fold I love it. If it was a reliable mobile phone, I would immediately pick one up. Maybe they are getting there with reliability, but I would like to see how the current generation Fold's fare over the next couple years.
That's true mate. I had a fold 4 which ran into issues multiple times. Both my screen went black after 1 year of usage. I switched to s24 ultra now when it ran into another issue where my BT and wifi stopped working everytime when I was on cover display.
Likewise. If the thing could last around 3 years before issues, I'd be more inclined to look into these. Especially now the Fold 6 is even more expensive than the 5 too, it's harder to justify jumping in. 5 seems to be holding up so far from what I've seen however.
@@Alex-zi1nb mine didn't show any issues until it ran out of warranty 🤣. The after warranty issues changed my whole perspective. I know that z folds are just in a different league but its just about the long term durability that concerns me after paying a hefty price
Conversely, my Fold 2 is still completely fine. I replaced the inner screen protector because it started bubbling up a bit around the crease recently, and that's it. Still folds flat, doesn't creak, no cracks, just a few microscratches on the cover screen around the edges. All this despite having dropped it a few times (while closed, fortunately). That said, I probably won't get a new Fold unless it's on a deep discount or my 2 completely breaks down. These prices are absurd. (I also got the 2 on a discount.) I also wouldn't take my anecdote for evidence that these things are tanks - they're obviously more fragile than non-folding phones, so if you've ever managed to break a regular phone, stay way the hell away.
Fold 4 is the most broken samsung fold ever. I myself have had 2 fold 4 bend halfway on me. On the other hand fold 5 have aged so nicely for so many people. You can't even find a single fold 5 that doesn't open flat online. Fold 4 had some issues with it bristles that got stuck in hinge and lead to it not opening fully. But since fold 5 those issues have been resolved entirely and they are lasting way longer than the previous.
Mainly the reason why they made the trade - in deals from the 4 to the 5 so amazing last year. Gets the 4's out of circulation, reducing the repairs. Heard from a friend who works at odido that the flip 4 had a massive return/failure rate and as a result, the 5 didnt sell as well, but had virtually no returns/failures. So something deffo changed.
This is kinda why I decided to upgrade from the 4 to a 6. My fold 4 had an issue earlier in the year where it didn't seem like it kept it's charge as well as it used to and seemed to run hotter than it used to and the screen wasn't staying on and it wouldn't connect to my wifi and according to the internet, it was likely an issue with the hinge cables and it was sounding like it was a fairly common problem with the fold 4. I've heard that the fold 5 seemed to iron out those issues so even though I didn't necessarily want to upgrade, I figured it would be worth the slight upgrades + the piece of mind. Assuming that many of the issues the fold 4 seemed to have have been mostly fixed, I should be using this phone for about as long as the planned support is.
@@phoenixwright784 I got my flip 6 earlier today. Went to some shops to try the flip 5 a few weeks ago and this screen feels much nicer FWIW. Like, you'd trust it more if that makes sense.
Goes to show how long term reviews are really important for phones especially the foldables. I could never jump the gun on a brand new phone without waiting out half a year for issues to pop up
For a second there I thought that the title said "my 2-year-old Ford is so much worse" but then I looked at the thumbnail and thought "There's no way that he is comparing a car to a phone." I HAD to look at the title again xD
Fold 4s not opening all the way is a very common issue. I happened to mine 1 year in. I've switched to the OnePlus open and I'm loving the wider cover screen.
Can confirm. I just got mine repaired by Samsung due to not opening flat after 1.5 years. Luckily free as it is covered by the two year warranty in Europe. I'll never get a Samsung fold again though. Their hinges still suck in 4th generation and likely are still the same with the fold 6
I had to have mine fixed for that after 1.5 years. Samsung can go F themselves for not giving European owners of the Fold 4 any decent trade-in deals to upgrade to the Fold 6. I'm not paying 1800 € (including shitty trade in for Fold 4) to get like 90% the same phone.
Apparently the brushes that should've kept dust out were getting stuck due to the glue dissolving after time. In the Flip 6 at least they've gotten rid of the brushes all together and I assume one the Fold 6 as well (source: latest JerryRigEverything video)
You 100% have to get good insurance for folding phones. Replaced my fold 4 and 5 multiple times because the hinge wouldn't fold flat anymore, only cost me $100 to get new ones
@@piggasauros yeah I mean I'm not about to argue they're the most durable phones but this is very eyebrow raising. The 4 had a bad hinge design but the 5 was pretty rock solid, I had zero issues with mine. Never once bought insurance and got both my 4s replaced under warranty.
0:05 So a $2000 phone only lasts 2 years. Nice. My 5 year old S20 Ultra is still doing fine after almost 5 years, and I will be keeping it a while longer.
"So a $1.000.000 house only lasts 1 day (if you blow it up with explosives). Nice." See how stupid that is? Without knowing how something is used (or abused), there is no indication of quality. You can leave the crappiest phone of all time in a box for 10 years, and only trickle charge it to keep the battery alive, then the crappiest phone of all time lasts 10 years. Does that mean it's good? Of course not.
@@timderks5960 except elijah didn't intentionally destroy his phone. in the video he was being careful make sure he doesn't break the inner screen. that indicates the phone became like that from 2 years of normal usage. that would be like a house falling down after only 5 years of you living in it. maybe use your brain a little next time.
I literally did the same thing, transferred my Fold 4 to my new Fold 6. What a difference.... But I also updated my Watch 4 to a Watch 7 and HOLY CRAP that was a generational perf boost
@QuantumConundrum 7 makes the 4 feel like a prototype. No lag, better display, way faster charging. I think the lack of lag and better display actually makes it the most efficient way to do certain actions like checking the weather, using spotify, calling people, starting workouts, and making payments (especially since opening and checking my Fold 5 was faster than checking on the GW4, but the GW7 is much faster than unfolding the Fold 5).
I just cant get over the price increase for such minimal improvement. Especially when the compition have similar spec devices for a fraction of the cost
Snapdragon chipset, All metal build, pixel fold has no support for certain apps, one plus open isn't there yet either, plus support for samsung is just better and they're trying to avoid charging subscription fees for services unlike Google
@@summernightlavvy9771 What do you mean by OnePlus open isnt there yet. The open is much more finished product than the fold. Samsung has inflated its price horribly and added "ai" thats just shit marketing and comes with the new snapdragons npu.
I've had my Z fold 4 since launch and my hinge is okay. I don't take it to places where there's a lot of dust and I periodically clean the phone and hinge. I've always used cases like the spigen armor or Dbrand's grip case for the hinge protection and it seems to hold up.
I love my fold6, better than the early showcases made it out to be. I have to look for the crease rather than avoid it. The screen is so much better outside. The thinner/lighter is actually noticable for ease of use. The wider aspect ratios make a lot of difference without being the pixel wide over height.
I totally agree. Battery life is one of the biggest sore points with foldables right now. None of the manufacturers seem to care about anything but making the devices thinner or cramming in "AI". It'd be nice if they focused on general user experience.
Yeah. 7 might get that quality change of life, but honestly, wait like 2-3 more years for any of those things mentioned (better cameras, no camera bump, bigger battery capacity/longer time being used, and give it like 1 more 1mm width etc). Cuz so far, ai is the main focus and shipping point samsung trying to do which isn't even much.
@LaidBackDeveloper I'm not sticking a thick ass folded phone in my pocket lol I don't mind the bump, plus I never lay my phone flat when using it anyways. It's usually in my hand or propped up watching videos. I do get the want for a flat phone for some people but this just the size imo.
Agree regarding camera bumps. I hate them with a passion too. My Fold 4 has the same hinge issue, though not as severe. For me it happened immediately following the device overheating while charging, would no longer unfold completely and the screen protector bubbled up when previously it had shown no signs of bubbling. Guessing that the heat softened the adhesive and allowed the bristles to move inside the hinge and get trapped. As for the screen protector, it's almost like the heating and cooling shrank it a little because it seemed like the screen protector was slightly too small to stay adhered to the screen while unfolded, like it was being pulled taut instead of being loose enough to follow the curve of the display. On a $1900 USD phone, the fact that they haven't upgraded the cameras to at least match those on their flagship non-folding phones is absolutely CRAZY. But the fact that they haven't upgraded them AT ALL for 2 generations is even more appalling.
0:57 as much as i hate camera bumps too, i think people will criticize the thickness of the phone if they made it that thick. Especially once you fold it up
yes having handeled lots of folding phones for work, this is the only one i might consider using, the tickeness is actually less than a S23 ultra with a case
@@f.i.b3027 I fail to see what saying that people wouldn't criticize a phone for being thick enough that it doesn't need a camera bump if no one had ever made a phone to thin to fit the camera without a bump, has to do with controlling smart phone makers.
@@t1m3f0x I'm not saying that you are wrong about your statement; just that it is not realistic, as smartphones' thinness is the reason why they are slip into your pocket fairly well.
so even if the phone doesn't hold up for 7 years, this still means people can still buy the 6 when the 8 or even 10 come out and still have a couple good years of a phone.
I agree with the increasing thickness to remove the camera bump and give extra battery. Especially on a phone like the Z Fold where it's bulky anyway and being able to lay it down flat on a table to take notes would be super helpful
Exactly why camera bumps make sense. If you're going to have a thick case on anyway might as well take advantage of the space with a bigger camera to make it flush with the case.
@@nellyx8051 i kinda dont want the camera flush with the case though, that means its less protected if i drop my phone in, say, gravel where the surface can reach up and into the camera opening area of the case
@@christomas8191you have commented the same thing 4 times. These are your only 4 comments on this channel. Genuinely bot behavior going out of your way to complain about people complaining. Unsure why you're so pressed about this one complaint if you're not a bot, but I hope you get well soon 🙏
@@christomas8191 i would never complain that. i would genuinely love a thicker phone. easier to hold when you got joint problems! i think right up to 2.5cm would be quite servicable. above that it starts getting into og gameboy territory where it hurts your pinkies from making them overcurl.
@@TimoNoko 😳 now that is slow charging well unless you’re using it for something like a vape or smart watch charger, my brother in law has a dual 2.5W USB brick and I had to use it to charge my Apple Watch one time and it actually went from dead to full in like 2 hours so not too terrible for that
That hinge is covered under 2 year warranty. Just get it fixed for free, feels like a new phone. As part of the repair they need to replace the inner screen and battery as well anyway so its really is like a new phone!
How funny is it that as soon as I clicked the video an actual ad advertising the z fold 6 actually played 😂😂😂 3:15 did Elijah just say dad🤔 or is it just a joke😂
My fold4 was in the same state as yours, not folding flat, put me off really and went back to a normal phone. For sure not a one off I was more shocked it happened in such a short time.
My S9+ might get to 7 years. But it won't be getting updated. So it's nice to know for those of us who don't update our phone every other year that it'll still get updates
"My old one didn't last, can't wait to buy another one" is like the worst selling point for me it proves the product/company isn't worth buying or keeping because it's hoping that the company who you know made a product that didn't last changes even though they know they can purposely do it to sell units
"Why not make the phone that thick?" - in relation to camera bump I want to preface this by saying I'm an advocate for bigger batteries... on regular slab phones... to a degree. We've settled on around 7-9mm for the thickness for those. Less is silly while more is cumbersome. The latter is where we're at with foldable. It's for that reason I think the race for getting that specific category of smartphones to an acceptable thinness is a good thing. Like yeah, they should have better batteries. I'm not arguing against that but I do think getting foldable to semi-weildable state is what should take priority over making them thicker than they already are currently. Just hope they don't sacrifice MORE battery to get there.
Funny thing... My Fold 4 hinge just went bad today, just like yours at 0:11. Out of the blue, never had a slight problem before. I just opened it regularly today and a sticky string came out of the back of the hinge, and now it won't open. Yeah, thanks Samsung. I'm going to switch to Xiaomi or Honor foldable :)
Not all the folding phones use the same kind of hinge. The pixel fold for example has large thick hinges at the top and bottom of the screen. They are less likely to be affected by dirt and debris compared to the long thin flat hinge in Samsung phone. You do end up with large screen bezels.
I have a Fold 4 (the same phone) that I got on launch day and it's still in perfect condition, and I'm not very careful with my phones. So, your mileage may vary.
@@QuantumConundrum It will never be. These phones are designed to fail, the perfect product to keep you upgrading until you decide not to buy it. Plastic (and supposedly glass) is not meant to bend like this over and over and over. The hinge may be fine, the display won't ever be.
What's worse, fold 4 was the one where they upgraded the hinge. It was supposed to be the one not to look like this after a year. I mean, they succeeded. It's 1.5yrs old.
1:26 It would be more appropriate to call the cover screen camera a pinhole than under screen - in contrast to the concealed under screen camera on the main screen.
My fold 4 had the same squeaky hinge opening and it wasn't opening flat as well. Returned it to Samsung and got a normal s24 ultra. Miss the big canvas though
Well guess What. Your S24 Ultras Screen has about 400.000 Pixels (Thats 10%)more then the inner Fold Screen does. Folds are Just BIGGER AND MORE EXPENSIVE AND LESS DURABLE AND LESS PERFORMANT IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
Ive gone from Fold 2 to Fold 4 to Fold 6. Completely disagree about filling out the thickness till the camera bump is flush!. I want it thinner and lighter! Battery life gains should be from efficiency. Elimination of camera bumps should be from periscope tech etc. Not brute force fattening. On a table it's easier to pick up, or it's in fold mode with the flat face down on the table, so don't mind the bump. The thinner in hand feel makes a massive difference for me.
I upgraded from Fold4 to Fold6 and I can feel the difference between the two every time I pick it up or unfold it. Only a daily driver can tell you how big of a change it is from old Folds.
Honestly, this. Every time I see a tech youtube say they've barely changed anything, it makes me realize they're basically just looking at the spec sheet. When I upgraded to the Fold 6, I expected it to basically be the same, but it feels completely different. Actually really happy with the 6.
I'm glad they had someone who actually has a fold do the review, rather than Riley who would have just trolled and questioned why it exists. The same hinge problems are the reason I haven't taken the risk of getting one, but it's nice to see his opinions comparing the new to his experience with the 4. Hopefully it keeps getting better where there's more trust in how long it will last.
Elijah, not to mention if they make it that little thicker to not need a camera bump, they would then not have an excuse not to include a headphone jack.
@milkqt666 😂😂 not how that works at all lol I throw my s22 ultra all the time. I still carry insurance on it so if I have to replace it, it sucks but not so expensive that I'm going to freak out if it breaks. I'm very careful with all my other electronics because even though they could be replaced under a different insurance policy I have. It would suck to replace my desktop or laptop, both which were over 2 grand a piece.
@@milkqt666 For not having a case it's in good shape. And he dropped it on a soft deskpad, nothing is going to happen to the phone. To me it looks like he took alright care of it.
@@milkqt666 >You can tell he doesn’t care about his items. He doesn’t have a cell phone case or nothing. how are these thing even related? cases make phones ugly af
I had the exact same hinge issue with my Z fold 3. After a year in a half it wouldn't open fully and the internal screen and screen protector had started to crack. I have a gut feeling the hinge going bad is in no small part due to running the phone caseless and isn't expressly Samsung's fault, but I could be wrong, since more gunk and dust could creep into the mechanism over time. I've had the pixel fold for about a year, and it looks and functions like new, not even a scratch on the internal display and the hinge is still buttery smooth. I do, however, use the Dbrand Grip case on it, which entirely covers the hinge mechanism both opened and closed. I'm getting my z fold 6 tomorrow, and I'm hoping it holds up for at least a year or two.
4:56 Slightly less bass and a bit of distortion, but it does sound clearer than the 4. The clarity has a sharper low end bass though, so it sounds like it has a wider range, which is nice.
"Oh God, DBrand's the sponsor?" You KNOW DBrand has a certain reputation at LTT (and overall I guess) when the person is reviewing a product and they have to do a drbrand sponsor segment and you hear those words! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I Love it! xD Edit: Wow okay, no weird stuff this time. Just "skins" lol Booo Dbrand, I expected more from you guys! 😂
I own a Fold 5 and this is imo a perfect phone No issues no bend issue, no hinge drama, just fast smooth and cool. Now my hinge is making slight noise but that's too be expected. I rock it caseless, so my only issue is.. add a spen slot in the phone Outside of that, fold 5 is nearly perfect(minor heating issues and canera needs works) I'll hold until the fold 7
Currently watching this on a fold 5. Ive had mine for over a year now and its been the best phone ive ever owned. The inner screen works perfectly and the hinge still lays flat with no issues.
Honestly at this point I couldn't give a crap about included chargers & cables because I bought my own higher quality ones years ago that I still use to this day. Except for a pair of usb c headphones that I got with my galaxy... note 10? I believe. That's one thing I actually do miss. I haven't gotten around and bought a pair of good headphones for my phone yet and the samsung ones are starting to wear out.
Galaxy AI as a selling point is such a scam. All it is is a software update that they absolutely could push to older devices, and literally have for devices getting updates😐😒
@@SeanPMSo worst case scenario it takes longer to process. Honestly still don't see how it could be anything other than a marketing buzzword that is artificially limited to specific devices for malicious profitability reasons
I never heard anyone have a take like that instead of having thicker camera housing on the back make the entire phone that thick and put in a bigger battery that's actually an excellent idea lol
Elijah is not alone in the issues with the 4 - I had the same and had it repaired once. The core of the issue is actually the little brushes which are meant to keep debris out of the hinge were coming unglued and getting stuck in the mechanism. With that said, it seemed way less prevalent with the 5 and the build quality of the 6 gives my high hopes. I upgraded because samsung gave me $1000 CAD trade in credit for my 4 on top of other really nice discounts, and so far so good. Ultimately time will tell.
@@lolhi1122 but it doesnt protect the camera so you need a extra thicc case that protects the camera aswell or the case itself needs a big pump where the camera is so its bad either way, if it was flat ore slightly elevated from the get go, the case could be slim and still protect camera..
@dorian6021 I was quoting the reviewer when he was upset about the camera bump, and he suggested making the phone thicker to minimise the bump and also gain battery. In theory that's sound great. However, the fold is already thick, and the race is actually to make them thinner and more appealing.
@dorian6021 kinda yes 😅 skull emoji means "did he actually say that? lmfao I am dead", usually on unpopular comments etc. Depends on the context really.
I like Elijah’s unboxing especially after daily driving and seeing his issues with it long term but am hoping to see Linus daily drive something like this for a full review
Wow I'm surprised they are at 6 already. I have the Fold 3 and its a nearly perfect device. I'm hoping to never upgrade since it does everything I need but obviously it will force me to eventually. Glad to see when the day comes I do have to upgrade at least the same format will be available.
I had my F3 for a year with an official case on it. The case wore away at the black finish so much that I ended up trading it in the following year for an S22 Ultra, looked like it lived in a bag of sandpaper for all of its life. Aspect ratio on the front screen was awful too, constantly had apps crashing or not displaying buttons because they weren't designed for such a slim screen. Hoping to go back to this or next year's fold though still, the inside screen was great
Fold 3 here.. still paying it off lol.😂😂 :(but ya perfect condition just back is starting to peel cause of the glue No cracks, or problems with the screen. Looks new
@@MitchBowman93 Yeah the aspect ratio of the front screen needs to be slightly wider, that's literally my one complaint about it. Luckly whatever app acts up on the front screen usually works on the interior screen. I think I've had 1 instance so far where neither one really worked well, but at that point I blame the app.
Great video! I'm on a fold 4 aswell....but it seems I will go with the S24 ultra this time (instead of fold6. ) Its a message to samsung to improve specs and camera for a 2000$ + phone!!!
"Why not just make the phone that thick and you get extra battery?" Because Folds are already heavy-ass phones and I don't think many people would want to use an even heavier-ass phone.
It's also already a thick-ass phone and every 1mm you add to the thickness of the phone turns into 2mm when it's folded. There's an arguable case for thickening a typical candybar phone to flatten out the camera, but doing that with a flip phone? It'd be an absolute brick lol
Upgrading from the Fold 3 was a HUGE upgrade. Totally worth. Three years is the sweet spot. I also LOVE the squared off screen corners. Made me realize how absurd curved phone screen corners have become.
i am also using a fold4 for 2 years now. idk what you guys are doing to it lol but I use mine HARD. not only that but Im a maintenance mechanic and its with me everywhere, including negative degree temperatures for hours at a time. it still opens totally flat and the only problem i had was the protector came off the inside screen from moisture during one of those cold days outside.
4:06 2800 nits sounds about right! I know that samsungs fold 6, flip 6, and the entire s24 lineup are able to reach 2800 nits. Prototypes of them were hitting 2800 nits.
"I passionately hate camera bumps."
I get it buddy. That little wobble when you lay it flat is just annoying to me. Just gimme a slightly thicker phone with a bigger battery. It's one of my reasons for a always using a case that makes sure that my phone can lay flat.
The ridiculous thing is that they could have rotated the bar 90 degrees and then it would have been so much more stable
@@bubbledoubletrouble Oh yeah, that's what Google does with their phones. Make the bar horizontal and the problem goes away.
Once you put a case on it, isn't it flat again? That space is used by the case. If that phone was actually that thicc you'd be carrying around an actual brick.
i'm with this guy
too
just recently upgrade my old trusty Zenfone 2 to newer nowadays phone and that camera bumps make my phone hard to put on pockets
And so many cases just extend the camera bump yet again. So it's still tippy even with a case. Super frustrating.
If the phone was thick enough to not have a giant camera bulge, it could have had enough room in the chassis for the stylus,
and a headphone jack,
and expandable storage.
And bigger battery . And even a 2th usb-c port!
2th?
@@toseltreps1101 2rd
@@tonisvalk5780 2st
And weigh 20% more... no thanks. Sold my Fold 4 after six months because I hated the weight.
Wait- linus didn't review the fold?
Well, at least it's still someone with experience daily driving foldables
Didn’t want to have DBrand prank him again probably
They're obviously grooming Elijah to become the next Linus!
I mean there is so little change...
Linus doesn't review many phones these days, but still, I had expectations that are very disappointing 😔
The fold 4 should have had a recall. I have the 3 and mine goes basically flat still while my step father has the 4 and looks exactly like yours. INSANE.
I have a Fold 2 and it also doesn't open entirely. They told me that they have to change the inside screen and the hinge cause it's one assembly, and it'd cost €600. I didn't do it cause I was hoping the Fold 6 would be a bigger upgrade than the 5. Maybe I should wait for the new One+ and Google foldables.
@@AnotherComputer yeah I remember heating about it with the fold 2 as well but for some reason the 3 seems to not be as frequent. Such crap.
@@AnotherComputer I have the 3 and my hinge broke, would only open to about 160 degrees, and was told the hinge and inner screen are a single unit and it would be $600 to repair. So I waited for the 6 to be reveled and saw little to no upgrade and went with the 5 from a prime day deal
I had 2 fold 4 with the same issue
I have 3 and it doesn’t fully open
The biggest holdup I have with getting a Galaxy Fold(or folding phone in general) is seen pretty easily in this video. It's not how nice the Fold 6 is, it's what the Fold 4 looks like after 2 years. The bubbling up on Fold screens, micro cracks, hinge not opening all the way, etc. - it's not quite at the level of reliability I would be comfortable with. It's a real shame too because every time I see the Fold I love it. If it was a reliable mobile phone, I would immediately pick one up. Maybe they are getting there with reliability, but I would like to see how the current generation Fold's fare over the next couple years.
That's true mate. I had a fold 4 which ran into issues multiple times. Both my screen went black after 1 year of usage. I switched to s24 ultra now when it ran into another issue where my BT and wifi stopped working everytime when I was on cover display.
Likewise. If the thing could last around 3 years before issues, I'd be more inclined to look into these.
Especially now the Fold 6 is even more expensive than the 5 too, it's harder to justify jumping in. 5 seems to be holding up so far from what I've seen however.
my 5 is approaching a year old and zero issues. knock on wood.
@@Alex-zi1nb mine didn't show any issues until it ran out of warranty 🤣. The after warranty issues changed my whole perspective. I know that z folds are just in a different league but its just about the long term durability that concerns me after paying a hefty price
Conversely, my Fold 2 is still completely fine. I replaced the inner screen protector because it started bubbling up a bit around the crease recently, and that's it. Still folds flat, doesn't creak, no cracks, just a few microscratches on the cover screen around the edges. All this despite having dropped it a few times (while closed, fortunately).
That said, I probably won't get a new Fold unless it's on a deep discount or my 2 completely breaks down. These prices are absurd. (I also got the 2 on a discount.)
I also wouldn't take my anecdote for evidence that these things are tanks - they're obviously more fragile than non-folding phones, so if you've ever managed to break a regular phone, stay way the hell away.
Fold 4 is the most broken samsung fold ever. I myself have had 2 fold 4 bend halfway on me. On the other hand fold 5 have aged so nicely for so many people. You can't even find a single fold 5 that doesn't open flat online. Fold 4 had some issues with it bristles that got stuck in hinge and lead to it not opening fully. But since fold 5 those issues have been resolved entirely and they are lasting way longer than the previous.
Mainly the reason why they made the trade - in deals from the 4 to the 5 so amazing last year. Gets the 4's out of circulation, reducing the repairs.
Heard from a friend who works at odido that the flip 4 had a massive return/failure rate and as a result, the 5 didnt sell as well, but had virtually no returns/failures. So something deffo changed.
This is kinda why I decided to upgrade from the 4 to a 6. My fold 4 had an issue earlier in the year where it didn't seem like it kept it's charge as well as it used to and seemed to run hotter than it used to and the screen wasn't staying on and it wouldn't connect to my wifi and according to the internet, it was likely an issue with the hinge cables and it was sounding like it was a fairly common problem with the fold 4. I've heard that the fold 5 seemed to iron out those issues so even though I didn't necessarily want to upgrade, I figured it would be worth the slight upgrades + the piece of mind. Assuming that many of the issues the fold 4 seemed to have have been mostly fixed, I should be using this phone for about as long as the planned support is.
@@phoenixwright784 I got my flip 6 earlier today. Went to some shops to try the flip 5 a few weeks ago and this screen feels much nicer FWIW. Like, you'd trust it more if that makes sense.
@Elvewizzy. The 4th generation is the worst when it comes to durability. The 5th generation is the most durable.
Goes to show how long term reviews are really important for phones especially the foldables. I could never jump the gun on a brand new phone without waiting out half a year for issues to pop up
00:08 Exactly how my knees sound
😂
and wrists and ankles
Take some omega 3 fish oil lol those pills actually work. 😂
For a second there I thought that the title said "my 2-year-old Ford is so much worse" but then I looked at the thumbnail and thought "There's no way that he is comparing a car to a phone." I HAD to look at the title again xD
Joke is on you, in the end he compared it with a car 😂
ok LOL it wasn't just me then
@@HaroldKuilman ain't no way 💀
Thanks for sharing.
Fold 4s not opening all the way is a very common issue. I happened to mine 1 year in. I've switched to the OnePlus open and I'm loving the wider cover screen.
Can confirm. I just got mine repaired by Samsung due to not opening flat after 1.5 years. Luckily free as it is covered by the two year warranty in Europe. I'll never get a Samsung fold again though. Their hinges still suck in 4th generation and likely are still the same with the fold 6
Mine wouldn't open after 6 months. Samsung refused to fix it. Never buying their devices again.
my fold 4 had this exact issue - in Europe so had 2 months left on the warranty (2 years) and was fixed for free
I had to have mine fixed for that after 1.5 years. Samsung can go F themselves for not giving European owners of the Fold 4 any decent trade-in deals to upgrade to the Fold 6. I'm not paying 1800 € (including shitty trade in for Fold 4) to get like 90% the same phone.
Apparently the brushes that should've kept dust out were getting stuck due to the glue dissolving after time. In the Flip 6 at least they've gotten rid of the brushes all together and I assume one the Fold 6 as well (source: latest JerryRigEverything video)
You 100% have to get good insurance for folding phones. Replaced my fold 4 and 5 multiple times because the hinge wouldn't fold flat anymore, only cost me $100 to get new ones
So basically the phone costs a lot more than it says.
@@p5eudo883 Yep, and the hinge failed again today. Gotta file for another replacement lmao
How rough with it are you? I've had my fold 3 for almost 3 years now and have had no problems with the hinge at all
@@piggasauros yeah I mean I'm not about to argue they're the most durable phones but this is very eyebrow raising. The 4 had a bad hinge design but the 5 was pretty rock solid, I had zero issues with mine. Never once bought insurance and got both my 4s replaced under warranty.
@@chronicnugget5595I had the fold 5 and the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth stopped working so I just got the flip 6 😂
0:05 So a $2000 phone only lasts 2 years. Nice. My 5 year old S20 Ultra is still doing fine after almost 5 years, and I will be keeping it a while longer.
my s22 ultra is still great too, wont upgrade for another couple years
check your back glass, a lot of the ones in s20 ultra are starting to open. mostly due to adhesive fail.
"So a $1.000.000 house only lasts 1 day (if you blow it up with explosives). Nice."
See how stupid that is? Without knowing how something is used (or abused), there is no indication of quality. You can leave the crappiest phone of all time in a box for 10 years, and only trickle charge it to keep the battery alive, then the crappiest phone of all time lasts 10 years. Does that mean it's good? Of course not.
Your device is going to be removed from Samsung's repair pool very soon.
If you need a new battery, now's the time.
@@timderks5960 except elijah didn't intentionally destroy his phone. in the video he was being careful make sure he doesn't break the inner screen. that indicates the phone became like that from 2 years of normal usage. that would be like a house falling down after only 5 years of you living in it. maybe use your brain a little next time.
I literally did the same thing, transferred my Fold 4 to my new Fold 6. What a difference.... But I also updated my Watch 4 to a Watch 7 and HOLY CRAP that was a generational perf boost
I am actually on a Watch4, what's different on the 7 for you?
@@QuantumConundrumbetter battery life, much better performance - no lag, improved fitness training, faster charging and slightly bigger display.
@QuantumConundrum 7 makes the 4 feel like a prototype. No lag, better display, way faster charging. I think the lack of lag and better display actually makes it the most efficient way to do certain actions like checking the weather, using spotify, calling people, starting workouts, and making payments (especially since opening and checking my Fold 5 was faster than checking on the GW4, but the GW7 is much faster than unfolding the Fold 5).
The no lag on the watch 7 ultra is amazing. Watch 5 pro was annoying with the lag
I just cant get over the price increase for such minimal improvement. Especially when the compition have similar spec devices for a fraction of the cost
Snapdragon chipset, All metal build, pixel fold has no support for certain apps, one plus open isn't there yet either, plus support for samsung is just better and they're trying to avoid charging subscription fees for services unlike Google
Not beefing just opinion😊
@@summernightlavvy9771 What do you mean by OnePlus open isnt there yet. The open is much more finished product than the fold. Samsung has inflated its price horribly and added "ai" thats just shit marketing and comes with the new snapdragons npu.
I've had my Z fold 4 since launch and my hinge is okay. I don't take it to places where there's a lot of dust and I periodically clean the phone and hinge. I've always used cases like the spigen armor or Dbrand's grip case for the hinge protection and it seems to hold up.
Ok, Elijah is the best host barring Linus himself, and even then the competition is there.
I love my fold6, better than the early showcases made it out to be. I have to look for the crease rather than avoid it. The screen is so much better outside. The thinner/lighter is actually noticable for ease of use. The wider aspect ratios make a lot of difference without being the pixel wide over height.
aside from scratches and the front screen protector peeling on my fold 2, it has been a rock. Whenever I get a new phone it will be a fold again.
I'm glad it's been lasting for you
I completely agree about the camera bump. Just make it thicker with a bigger battery. Thicker doesn't matter in actual use at all.
I totally agree. Battery life is one of the biggest sore points with foldables right now. None of the manufacturers seem to care about anything but making the devices thinner or cramming in "AI". It'd be nice if they focused on general user experience.
Yeah. 7 might get that quality change of life, but honestly, wait like 2-3 more years for any of those things mentioned (better cameras, no camera bump, bigger battery capacity/longer time being used, and give it like 1 more 1mm width etc). Cuz so far, ai is the main focus and shipping point samsung trying to do which isn't even much.
You say that, and yet most people claim it's too thick.
@LaidBackDeveloper I'm not sticking a thick ass folded phone in my pocket lol I don't mind the bump, plus I never lay my phone flat when using it anyways. It's usually in my hand or propped up watching videos. I do get the want for a flat phone for some people but this just the size imo.
It does when you remember that the material you add by making it thicker and adding a massive battery actually has mass.
11:15 I don't know if you forgot what year it is, but you're not buying a car for less than $2,000 if you want it to run
No you def can
@@ThisHandleIsRare I would argue that if your budget requires a 2K limit on a car, you should not be getting a fold
Agree regarding camera bumps. I hate them with a passion too.
My Fold 4 has the same hinge issue, though not as severe. For me it happened immediately following the device overheating while charging, would no longer unfold completely and the screen protector bubbled up when previously it had shown no signs of bubbling. Guessing that the heat softened the adhesive and allowed the bristles to move inside the hinge and get trapped. As for the screen protector, it's almost like the heating and cooling shrank it a little because it seemed like the screen protector was slightly too small to stay adhered to the screen while unfolded, like it was being pulled taut instead of being loose enough to follow the curve of the display.
On a $1900 USD phone, the fact that they haven't upgraded the cameras to at least match those on their flagship non-folding phones is absolutely CRAZY. But the fact that they haven't upgraded them AT ALL for 2 generations is even more appalling.
1:57 that very quick and unassuming "nice"
0:57 as much as i hate camera bumps too, i think people will criticize the thickness of the phone if they made it that thick. Especially once you fold it up
yes having handeled lots of folding phones for work, this is the only one i might consider using, the tickeness is actually less than a S23 ultra with a case
they wouldn't if phone makers had never made phones that were to thin in the first place
@@t1m3f0x You can't control smart phone makers to make not thin. Phones being thin is the reason why they fit in pockets fairly reasonable.
@@f.i.b3027 I fail to see what saying that people wouldn't criticize a phone for being thick enough that it doesn't need a camera bump if no one had ever made a phone to thin to fit the camera without a bump, has to do with controlling smart phone makers.
@@t1m3f0x I'm not saying that you are wrong about your statement; just that it is not realistic, as smartphones' thinness is the reason why they are slip into your pocket fairly well.
Quality video. Really warming up to this type of Elijah when it comes to checking products out as the host. Great work.
I'll never understand the camera bumps being on one side of the phone. At least with my pixel 7 it makes sense and the phone is steady.
so even if the phone doesn't hold up for 7 years, this still means people can still buy the 6 when the 8 or even 10 come out and still have a couple good years of a phone.
"Oh god, Dbrand's the sponsor?" - love it :D
I agree with the increasing thickness to remove the camera bump and give extra battery. Especially on a phone like the Z Fold where it's bulky anyway and being able to lay it down flat on a table to take notes would be super helpful
2:17 that is how thick if it was real after unfolding
elijah is right about camera bumps. the thing is gonna be shoved in a thick ol case anyway, might as well get some extra battery out of it.
Exactly why camera bumps make sense. If you're going to have a thick case on anyway might as well take advantage of the space with a bigger camera to make it flush with the case.
@@nellyx8051 i kinda dont want the camera flush with the case though, that means its less protected if i drop my phone in, say, gravel where the surface can reach up and into the camera opening area of the case
then you're going to complain that its too thick
@@christomas8191you have commented the same thing 4 times. These are your only 4 comments on this channel. Genuinely bot behavior going out of your way to complain about people complaining. Unsure why you're so pressed about this one complaint if you're not a bot, but I hope you get well soon 🙏
@@christomas8191 i would never complain that. i would genuinely love a thicker phone. easier to hold when you got joint problems! i think right up to 2.5cm would be quite servicable. above that it starts getting into og gameboy territory where it hurts your pinkies from making them overcurl.
10 metres would be a crazy USB length 😂
You connect 5 extension cords together and USB-1 works fine.
@@TimoNoko USB-1? That is a standard from before I was born 😂 I’m pretty certain you can’t even do 10W with that, think the max is like 7.5W
0.5 amperes was the max. So 5V*0.5A = 2.5W .
@@TimoNoko 😳 now that is slow charging well unless you’re using it for something like a vape or smart watch charger, my brother in law has a dual 2.5W USB brick and I had to use it to charge my Apple Watch one time and it actually went from dead to full in like 2 hours so not too terrible for that
I have a 5m and I absolutely love it, I can charge anything anywhere. Don't feel like I need more tho :D
That hinge is covered under 2 year warranty. Just get it fixed for free, feels like a new phone. As part of the repair they need to replace the inner screen and battery as well anyway so its really is like a new phone!
Making one half of the phone as thick as the camera bump would indeed make the phone thicker lol
Amazing to see Elijah's growth with the company. Keep up the good work!
How funny is it that as soon as I clicked the video an actual ad advertising the z fold 6 actually played 😂😂😂
3:15 did Elijah just say dad🤔 or is it just a joke😂
My fold4 was in the same state as yours, not folding flat, put me off really and went back to a normal phone. For sure not a one off I was more shocked it happened in such a short time.
My S9+ might get to 7 years. But it won't be getting updated. So it's nice to know for those of us who don't update our phone every other year that it'll still get updates
Custom ROM it
The iphone 6s is 9 years old and recently got updated so don't give up hope yet!
@@draginator6samsung abandons phones much faster than Apple
s8 still going strong.
don't want to put lineageos on it since it increases battery usage if i were to update to the newest android
@@vivago727 something newer probs tho. Probs less battery draw
"My old one didn't last, can't wait to buy another one" is like the worst selling point for me it proves the product/company isn't worth buying or keeping
because it's hoping that the company who you know made a product that didn't last changes even though they know they can purposely do it to sell units
I have to say I wasn't a fan at first. But like a stubborn wart, Elijah is growing on me 😄
"Why not make the phone that thick?"
- in relation to camera bump
I want to preface this by saying I'm an advocate for bigger batteries... on regular slab phones... to a degree. We've settled on around 7-9mm for the thickness for those. Less is silly while more is cumbersome. The latter is where we're at with foldable. It's for that reason I think the race for getting that specific category of smartphones to an acceptable thinness is a good thing. Like yeah, they should have better batteries. I'm not arguing against that but I do think getting foldable to semi-weildable state is what should take priority over making them thicker than they already are currently. Just hope they don't sacrifice MORE battery to get there.
Funny thing... My Fold 4 hinge just went bad today, just like yours at 0:11. Out of the blue, never had a slight problem before. I just opened it regularly today and a sticky string came out of the back of the hinge, and now it won't open. Yeah, thanks Samsung. I'm going to switch to Xiaomi or Honor foldable :)
00:08 Exactly this sound is what my Fold4 makes. But the hinge still works well, and I can fully open the phone.
Elijah opening his current 18-month-old phone is all the reason you need to not buy a Fold.
Fully agree. I think by the time it gets to Fold 10 or 11, it might be okay.
Not all the folding phones use the same kind of hinge. The pixel fold for example has large thick hinges at the top and bottom of the screen. They are less likely to be affected by dirt and debris compared to the long thin flat hinge in Samsung phone. You do end up with large screen bezels.
I have a Fold 4 (the same phone) that I got on launch day and it's still in perfect condition, and I'm not very careful with my phones. So, your mileage may vary.
@@QuantumConundrum It will never be. These phones are designed to fail, the perfect product to keep you upgrading until you decide not to buy it. Plastic (and supposedly glass) is not meant to bend like this over and over and over. The hinge may be fine, the display won't ever be.
What's worse, fold 4 was the one where they upgraded the hinge. It was supposed to be the one not to look like this after a year.
I mean, they succeeded. It's 1.5yrs old.
1:26 It would be more appropriate to call the cover screen camera a pinhole than under screen - in contrast to the concealed under screen camera on the main screen.
My fold 4 had the same squeaky hinge opening and it wasn't opening flat as well. Returned it to Samsung and got a normal s24 ultra. Miss the big canvas though
Well guess What. Your S24 Ultras Screen has about 400.000 Pixels (Thats 10%)more then the inner Fold Screen does.
Folds are Just BIGGER AND MORE EXPENSIVE AND LESS DURABLE AND LESS PERFORMANT IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
@Greedo1977 way to go comparing screen size with pixel count.
You are not alone, I had the same experience. You should make a separate video about it.
Ive gone from Fold 2 to Fold 4 to Fold 6. Completely disagree about filling out the thickness till the camera bump is flush!. I want it thinner and lighter! Battery life gains should be from efficiency. Elimination of camera bumps should be from periscope tech etc. Not brute force fattening. On a table it's easier to pick up, or it's in fold mode with the flat face down on the table, so don't mind the bump. The thinner in hand feel makes a massive difference for me.
Elijah decided to de-dbrand the phone. Linus must be so proud.
I upgraded from Fold4 to Fold6 and I can feel the difference between the two every time I pick it up or unfold it. Only a daily driver can tell you how big of a change it is from old Folds.
Honestly, this. Every time I see a tech youtube say they've barely changed anything, it makes me realize they're basically just looking at the spec sheet. When I upgraded to the Fold 6, I expected it to basically be the same, but it feels completely different. Actually really happy with the 6.
9:09 What in the Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends is that? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm glad they had someone who actually has a fold do the review, rather than Riley who would have just trolled and questioned why it exists. The same hinge problems are the reason I haven't taken the risk of getting one, but it's nice to see his opinions comparing the new to his experience with the 4. Hopefully it keeps getting better where there's more trust in how long it will last.
Elijah! Let's fckn goooo! ❤
Mine lasted 11 months on a VERY careful use.
Elijah, not to mention if they make it that little thicker to not need a camera bump, they would then not have an excuse not to include a headphone jack.
I like that we're back at the Galaxy 2015 A-Series body shape.
Yeah, it looked so good and premium 🙂
The camera bump osnt an issue once you use a case...
"Because mine, if you can hear it *phone cracks*, is not in the greatest of, uh, shapes."
*proceeds to fling phone*
Ah yes, hm. I wonder why....
More like junk from his pockets got into the hinge.
You can tell he doesn’t care about his items. He doesn’t have a cell phone case or nothing.
@milkqt666 😂😂 not how that works at all lol I throw my s22 ultra all the time. I still carry insurance on it so if I have to replace it, it sucks but not so expensive that I'm going to freak out if it breaks. I'm very careful with all my other electronics because even though they could be replaced under a different insurance policy I have. It would suck to replace my desktop or laptop, both which were over 2 grand a piece.
@@milkqt666 For not having a case it's in good shape. And he dropped it on a soft deskpad, nothing is going to happen to the phone. To me it looks like he took alright care of it.
@@milkqt666 >You can tell he doesn’t care about his items. He doesn’t have a cell phone case or nothing.
how are these thing even related? cases make phones ugly af
I had the exact same hinge issue with my Z fold 3. After a year in a half it wouldn't open fully and the internal screen and screen protector had started to crack. I have a gut feeling the hinge going bad is in no small part due to running the phone caseless and isn't expressly Samsung's fault, but I could be wrong, since more gunk and dust could creep into the mechanism over time. I've had the pixel fold for about a year, and it looks and functions like new, not even a scratch on the internal display and the hinge is still buttery smooth. I do, however, use the Dbrand Grip case on it, which entirely covers the hinge mechanism both opened and closed. I'm getting my z fold 6 tomorrow, and I'm hoping it holds up for at least a year or two.
I completely agree with the camera bump hate
I have the 4, and have the same issue. Hopefully, one day, they can make the hinge mechanism more durable.
7:30 Elijah is right and I'm downright angry at the disrespect of suggesting otherwise.
4:56 Slightly less bass and a bit of distortion, but it does sound clearer than the 4. The clarity has a sharper low end bass though, so it sounds like it has a wider range, which is nice.
I was looking forward to see Linus's review 😓😓
I want more videos from you boy, well done.
Me in scrapyard wards: What Elijah uses a Z Fold 4?
My UA-cam feed: Elijah unboxing the Z Fold 6
As a fold 5 user, damn dude. You've put that fold 4 in a torture chamber.
"Oh God, DBrand's the sponsor?"
You KNOW DBrand has a certain reputation at LTT (and overall I guess) when the person is reviewing a product and they have to do a drbrand sponsor segment and you hear those words!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I Love it! xD
Edit: Wow okay, no weird stuff this time. Just "skins" lol
Booo Dbrand, I expected more from you guys! 😂
I own a Fold 5 and this is imo a perfect phone
No issues no bend issue, no hinge drama, just fast smooth and cool.
Now my hinge is making slight noise but that's too be expected.
I rock it caseless, so my only issue is.. add a spen slot in the phone
Outside of that, fold 5 is nearly perfect(minor heating issues and canera needs works) I'll hold until the fold 7
0:40 10 feet*
They both work under the context i think
Great video Elijah!
Where's Linus??
He stepped down from CEO, hes decided to take the role of "cheif of artists" i think it was
Currently watching this on a fold 5. Ive had mine for over a year now and its been the best phone ive ever owned. The inner screen works perfectly and the hinge still lays flat with no issues.
Honestly at this point I couldn't give a crap about included chargers & cables because I bought my own higher quality ones years ago that I still use to this day.
Except for a pair of usb c headphones that I got with my galaxy... note 10? I believe. That's one thing I actually do miss.
I haven't gotten around and bought a pair of good headphones for my phone yet and the samsung ones are starting to wear out.
"You took the asset tag with it"
Elijah: "Oh f#%&!"
Also Elijah, privately: "It won't need that asset tag when I steal it and take it home"
Galaxy AI as a selling point is such a scam. All it is is a software update that they absolutely could push to older devices, and literally have for devices getting updates😐😒
AI is not just a software update. It takes processing power.
@@SeanPMSo worst case scenario it takes longer to process. Honestly still don't see how it could be anything other than a marketing buzzword that is artificially limited to specific devices for malicious profitability reasons
I love how Elijah is to young to remember that they took the headphones as well
is it jsut me or the fold 6 looks soooooo much better then the previous folds
Really? I think it looks the same as the 5 with sharper corners
Kinda more elegant and sharp design yes
It's literally the same phone
@@Anon_571 nah I think it looks a lot better
You accomplished something even JerryRig couldn´t, you destroyed the folds hinge
I never heard anyone have a take like that instead of having thicker camera housing on the back make the entire phone that thick and put in a bigger battery that's actually an excellent idea lol
until you start complaining that the phone is too thick 🤦♂
Elijah is not alone in the issues with the 4 - I had the same and had it repaired once. The core of the issue is actually the little brushes which are meant to keep debris out of the hinge were coming unglued and getting stuck in the mechanism. With that said, it seemed way less prevalent with the 5 and the build quality of the 6 gives my high hopes. I upgraded because samsung gave me $1000 CAD trade in credit for my 4 on top of other really nice discounts, and so far so good. Ultimately time will tell.
"We're gonna listen to Crab Rave" - and, ya lost me.
I love the fear instilled when the host hears that dbrand is the sponsor of the video 😂
"Why not make the device that thick" 💀
and most cases make it flush with the camera so it's flat with a case
@@lolhi1122 but it doesnt protect the camera so you need a extra thicc case that protects the camera aswell or the case itself needs a big pump where the camera is so its bad either way, if it was flat ore slightly elevated from the get go, the case could be slim and still protect camera..
@dorian6021 I was quoting the reviewer when he was upset about the camera bump, and he suggested making the phone thicker to minimise the bump and also gain battery. In theory that's sound great. However, the fold is already thick, and the race is actually to make them thinner and more appealing.
"And the worst take of the year goes to..."
@dorian6021 kinda yes 😅 skull emoji means "did he actually say that? lmfao I am dead", usually on unpopular comments etc. Depends on the context really.
I like Elijah’s unboxing especially after daily driving and seeing his issues with it long term but am hoping to see Linus daily drive something like this for a full review
Wow I'm surprised they are at 6 already. I have the Fold 3 and its a nearly perfect device. I'm hoping to never upgrade since it does everything I need but obviously it will force me to eventually. Glad to see when the day comes I do have to upgrade at least the same format will be available.
I had my F3 for a year with an official case on it. The case wore away at the black finish so much that I ended up trading it in the following year for an S22 Ultra, looked like it lived in a bag of sandpaper for all of its life. Aspect ratio on the front screen was awful too, constantly had apps crashing or not displaying buttons because they weren't designed for such a slim screen. Hoping to go back to this or next year's fold though still, the inside screen was great
Fold 3 here.. still paying it off lol.😂😂 :(but ya perfect condition just back is starting to peel cause of the glue
No cracks, or problems with the screen. Looks new
@@MitchBowman93 Yeah the aspect ratio of the front screen needs to be slightly wider, that's literally my one complaint about it. Luckly whatever app acts up on the front screen usually works on the interior screen. I think I've had 1 instance so far where neither one really worked well, but at that point I blame the app.
9:07 "Maybe that wasnt good enough for the AI"...Clearly. How was AI suppose to recognize that bs was a cat 🤣
I agree, when phones are already so thin, I would rather it it be an insane battery or something
Elijah is 100% on point when it comes to the camera bump and phone thickness!
Oh wow we've got the grey version
Great video! I'm on a fold 4 aswell....but it seems I will go with the S24 ultra this time (instead of fold6. ) Its a message to samsung to improve specs and camera for a 2000$ + phone!!!
Siri, Alexa, Okay Google - can any of you make Elijah start brushing his yellow teeth?
I'm suddenly very aware of the disposability and comodification of premium consumer goods, this is the dark timeline
"Why not just make the phone that thick and you get extra battery?"
Because Folds are already heavy-ass phones and I don't think many people would want to use an even heavier-ass phone.
It is lighter than e.g. the iPhone 14 pro max. For me, the weight is not a problem, but the cost.
It's also already a thick-ass phone and every 1mm you add to the thickness of the phone turns into 2mm when it's folded.
There's an arguable case for thickening a typical candybar phone to flatten out the camera, but doing that with a flip phone? It'd be an absolute brick lol
I'm so glad to see under screen cameras finally in a mass-ish production phone, hope hope hope to see this maybe in the next galaxy line
Fully support Elijah in his fight against camera bumps
Upgrading from the Fold 3 was a HUGE upgrade. Totally worth. Three years is the sweet spot. I also LOVE the squared off screen corners. Made me realize how absurd curved phone screen corners have become.
Bruh all the bots in the comments lmfaooo
how can Google not be able to fix this?
Hmm yes youtube / google certainly does a good job at handling bots lol
i am also using a fold4 for 2 years now. idk what you guys are doing to it lol but I use mine HARD. not only that but Im a maintenance mechanic and its with me everywhere, including negative degree temperatures for hours at a time. it still opens totally flat and the only problem i had was the protector came off the inside screen from moisture during one of those cold days outside.
Bots eeww
4:06 2800 nits sounds about right! I know that samsungs fold 6, flip 6, and the entire s24 lineup are able to reach 2800 nits. Prototypes of them were hitting 2800 nits.
wth are these first three comments????
@@乂says u.
@@JaxonRs so you like bots/or are a bot, got it.
The camera bump is made that way to accomodate cases. With a case on, it becomes fully flat with no protrusion/bump.