RN Giulio Cesare - An Italian Battleship Lost in Crimea

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
  • The Italian battleship Giulio Cesare is an interesting case. Probably the second most famous Italian battleship behind Roma. And for similar reasons. Cesare would also be lost to a massive, and famous, explosion. However, in her case, it was in port.
    And probably an accident.
    That sinking, and her broken nature in WoWS, is largely why this ship is well known. This video will, however, look at the ship's entire service. From her early days, to her rebuild, and to her end.
    ...of course, at this length, I'm not expecting much. Longer videos tend to do poorly for reasons I'm not entirely sure about. I guess we'll see.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 32

  • @nigelmorroll3343
    @nigelmorroll3343 Місяць тому +22

    The Italian's sure seem to how make a nice look ship , especially after the refit.

    • @RebeccaCampbell1969
      @RebeccaCampbell1969 Місяць тому +1

      hell yeah
      Something the curator of BS New Jersey kind of hates from the Italian ships je je
      Sure form and being practical weight more than looks alone, but I think these ships were really good... but the communists party in charge and it’s corruption destroyed their utility... like powder quality being awful, probable DEI and not merits for officers and key personnel

    • @SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat
      @SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat Місяць тому +2

      ​@@RebeccaCampbell1969 why Ryan hates italian battleships?

    • @Ah01
      @Ah01 Місяць тому

      ​@@RebeccaCampbell1969 Ryan seems nice enough guy not to hate these ships.
      Don't forget your morning pills, Becky. 🙂

  • @redtailpunk
    @redtailpunk Місяць тому +8

    italy's fleet is an unfortunately an often overlooked piece of history. from before this to the bombing of Roma (your video on which was wonderful) the italians had their own valuable history on the continent if nothing else. Thanks for this detour to focus on often overlooked bits of WW2 naval history

  • @renatocamurca2713
    @renatocamurca2713 Місяць тому +2

    Extremely good looking ships, splendid design, very impressive. Thank you for the detailed explanation and very accurate details of this historic battlewagon.

  • @DragonShadowfire1
    @DragonShadowfire1 Місяць тому +5

    I never realized that fascist Italy delays their entry k to the Second World War. Seems kind of interesting to look back on with hindsight, that Nazi Germany went to war with most of Europe alone, and would have to wait two years for the full Axis pact to join them.
    I think the Reggio Marine doesn’t get enough attention for the role they played in the Mediterranean, and they were certainly a potent adversary to the Royal Navy. They possessed good ships, competent and brave crews, and the attack on Taranto would inspire the eventual surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, due to the Italians unfortunately assuming the port to be a safe refuge from air attack.
    Thanks again for covering such a cool warship! I can’t say it enough, but I always love your selection of photographs in these videos, because I usually see a few that I have never seen before. The shot of Cesare in Malta is a surreal photograph given the pummeling the Regio Aronautica, luftwaffe, and the navies of both axis countries administered to be island fortress. Always a joy watching your vids! Keep it up!

    • @billballbuster7186
      @billballbuster7186 Місяць тому

      The British fought alone after the fall of France and survived quite nicely until the Yanks joined the war in Tunisia 1943.

    • @DragonShadowfire1
      @DragonShadowfire1 Місяць тому

      This is true, and the Chinese fought the imperial Japanese alone from 1937-1941. Wars are funny in that they rarely start with every nation involved leaping into the fray simultaneously.

    • @jovanpetrovic4725
      @jovanpetrovic4725 Місяць тому

      @@billballbuster7186 That they fought with the entire two German divisions in Africa. The Soviets helped them a little by taking on 160 divisions...

    • @billballbuster7186
      @billballbuster7186 Місяць тому

      @@jovanpetrovic4725 Rommel was sent to North Africa to aid the Italians who were a military disaster, everything they touched turned to defeat. When they arrived in March 1941, the Soviet Union was not even in the war. At that time the Soviets were supplying Germany with oil to bomb London!

  • @181stTIE
    @181stTIE Місяць тому +3

    You missed the chance to comment on the Warspite hit that was recorded as one of the longest ship on ship in history at approximately 26000 yards.

  • @donaldpetersen2382
    @donaldpetersen2382 Місяць тому

    The dry cell is a very interesting concept.

  • @triumphbobberbiker
    @triumphbobberbiker Місяць тому +4

    Waging a modern naval war without adequate reserves of fuel. Absurd

    • @marckyle5895
      @marckyle5895 Місяць тому

      Fascists don't pay attention to facts. They only believe in their magical thinking and they kill those who don't believe their fake reality.

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk4494 Місяць тому +1

    Every time you say Cesare,it makes me think of Worthikids BigTop Burger and the bad guy CESARE! LOL

  • @Joshua-fi4ji
    @Joshua-fi4ji Місяць тому +1

    608-609 deaths seems oddly specific. Do we have any information about the 1 unnaccounted crew member and why their fate is a mystery?

    • @skyneahistory2306
      @skyneahistory2306  Місяць тому +2

      It’s less that, and more that sources vary on the exact number. You’ll see 608, or 609, or outliers like 617.

  • @icqme8586
    @icqme8586 Місяць тому +1

    Can the gun on the turret be manned if the main battery is being fired?

  • @metaknight115
    @metaknight115 Місяць тому +1

    Italian battleships we’re certainly beautiful

  • @joshuabessire9169
    @joshuabessire9169 Місяць тому +1

    How good were Italian Frogmen? Even Italian battleships had aspirations to be wet subs.

  • @SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat
    @SeveralWeezelsInaTrenchcoat Місяць тому

    Did you posted this on the anniversary of the battle of Calabria on porpuse or just a coincidence?

  • @kentlindal5422
    @kentlindal5422 Місяць тому

    What particular crime do you think you would have to do to the Captain's dog/daughter/wife to get stationed *on top* of the main battery turrets in combat?

  • @johnhuardsr.7584
    @johnhuardsr.7584 Місяць тому

    Has any battleship or battle cruiser ever hit or sunk another ship with there underwater torpedo's?

    • @amandarhodes4072
      @amandarhodes4072 Місяць тому

      Reportedly HMS Rodney fired her underwater torpedo tubes at Bismarck. A hit was registered but was hard to tell if it was from a main battery shell punching through at the waterline or the torpedo. The wreck of Bismarck does show evidence of a torpedo hit in recent expeditions but hard to tell if it was from Rodneys torpedo. Another thing to bare in mind was that at the point that Rodney used the torpedo. Bismarck was already badly damaged, listing heavily to one side, stationary and on fire. Rodney only got into torpedo range because Bismarck could not fire back and was motionless. So it's a case of having insufficient evidence to disprove the claim but slightly more evidence to claim it in the first place.

  • @TiberiusMaximus
    @TiberiusMaximus Місяць тому

    why do u build battleships if you haven't any fuel for them?

    • @sandrodunatov485
      @sandrodunatov485 Місяць тому +1

      The Regia Marina had the largest fuel (oil) reserves in Italy. Funnily most of it was actually supplied by then Soviet Union. Anyway, if something was ever made clear by the Italian Navy to the political leadership at the time, was that being entirely inside a closed sea with geographical access points under British control, no war could be reasonably waged by Italy against global naval powers. Moreover, even a successful war against the UK was useless, as Britain had the largest Navy afloat and could afford losses while Italy could not and this in a naval war makes most of the difference: by end of 1941 the British had lost five battleships, and still had enough, while any such losses would have made Italy powerless.
      Unfortunately when Germany started to gobble European nations one after the other, the fascists grew wary of being left out of the banquet, and decided to declare war; while this was in a sense somehow logic (albeit risky and ultimately suicidal) for Hitler that had in front of him 'neutral' powers (the U.S.) that behaved as belligerents, escorting supplies headed for belligerent nations and allowing to belligerents large loans (the 1941 Lend-Lease Act, that specially exempted Land-Lease grants from neutrality laws). Again, Germany was a continental power, so a narrow and intricate path at least in theory existed maybe. But for Italy, if the war went on beyond a few months, there was no hope at all, as without supplies, sooner or later even the largest reserves would have faded away. The Regia Marina, that made the most (or tried to) of what fuel had stockpiled, was forced to give part of it to the industry, the police, the Army and so on. The mistake was thus absolutely not logistical, but was mainly political, embroiling in a hopeless fight, and risking everything, just to satiate greed.

  • @billballbuster7186
    @billballbuster7186 Місяць тому

    Yes the brave Italians, declared war on the allies when Germany was on the verge of victory against France. Attacked the British in North and East Africa with armies 550,000 men but were defeated by a British Empire army of only 64,000! As soon as the Allies moved on Italy in 1943 Italy surrendered.

    • @billballbuster7186
      @billballbuster7186 4 дні тому

      @@giuseppe4909 Nice to get an Italian history Denier. Just face it you guys left a lot to be desired in military performance in WW2.

  • @RebeccaCampbell1969
    @RebeccaCampbell1969 Місяць тому +1

    “War price for the USSR”?
    One needs to put that into perspective on today’s values and ethics.
    Imagine Israel and Obama’s USA not only giving it’s own illegal cash to Iran, but actually giving the Muslim Republic more cash “to help it build not one, but several nuclear breeder reactors”
    That’s is more or less, maybe still less than give any legal support to the Stalin’s USSR from the Teheran treaty.
    What happened in occupied Poland, what happened during Barbarossa invasion with the soviets literally destroying their own people by millions... and much more just during the war.
    That’s enough to actually look at Iran with more appreciation... or the Narcos of Honduras (MS13) or the CCP... well not the CCP, no no no.
    Just a clarification, justification for the Italian arm forces to want to destroy their precious dreadnought instead of passing it to those, not going to say the adjetive.
    And believe me I admire the Russian and surrounding nations people, not the ideology held by their corrupt leaders.

    • @NicolaiAwesome
      @NicolaiAwesome Місяць тому +1

      What a load of rambling nonsense. Yes, putting an act done 80 years ago does sound “strange” when put in today’s setting. Who’d have known taking things out of context was going to have such an effect..
      Russia was an ally in WW2. Now they’re clearly not. Giving them an outdated battleship in piss poor condition is hardly the giving of nuclear secrets. Not even close. Especially given when it was done. Battleships - not just the Cesare itself - were outdated and clearly on the way out. Placating the Russians with a barely kept viable Italian ship wasn’t going to keep anyone up at night.