Starting the TLDR in the first minute🧑🍳 is a fantastic move. Still watching the entire thing but I know what to look for with those burning Qs out of the way.
Thanks this was an idea from Rodrigo our editor and we will be using this will all videos moving forward. Thank for letting us know you appreciate , it’s super useful to get this feedback quickly.
I am thinking of picking this up for my living room and bedroom Since quietness is a big factor. Thinking about biting the bullet on the mesh guard as well for longevity. Looking forward to the AirFanta review, hoping to purchase that to use for travel purposes
I’m very surprised the Luggable XL performed so much better than the Nukit Tempest on the PM1.0 removal test (20 min vs 31 min). I’m thinking the reason is due to the quality of the air filters. Luggables use the acclaimed Filtrete filters and Nukit Tempest use generic 2 inch filters
Yes I have had similar thoughts and David Elfstrom reached out to say the same . The problem I have is trying to get better quality 2 inch filter that will deliver ti the UK. Will keep looking as I think it will perform much better with different filters.
Hi, how do you compare this company brand with the Tempest, which is the metal version? I have two large dogs and young children so I’m worried about it getting broken. I know the Tempest is made of metal so I’m assuming that it’s more durable? And is one more efficient than the other?
Similar ideas with both pc fans and hvac filters. I found this one a little easier to build and is bigger and has more fans it was very quick at removing particles. I found the filters easier to find in my location for the luggable one, could only get from filter buy for the tempest. Depends on location, are you US? Be sure to get the extra $70 guard as filter can be sharp.
Similar ideas with both pc fans and hvac filters. I found this one a little easier to build and is bigger and has more fans it was very quick at removing particles. I found the filters easier to find in my location for the luggable one, could only get from filter buy for the tempest. Depends on location, are you US? Be sure to get the extra $70 guard as filter can be sharp. But durability will be better with the Nukit tempest for sure. I eagerly away the EU version that uses lkea filters .
@@HouseFresh Thank you so much for responding so quickly. Yes I think I’m going to go with this fan or maybe the end table style from same company you mentioned in video since it may be a little sturdier. I’m glad I asked you first.
One issue I have of being in the EU is that those filters are rare and hard to find, mostly because we have no in home AC system that uses those filters. the few sellers that do sell it have a minimum requirement order of 12pcs, and when you live on your own and only need 4-6 pieces for a 2 filter model, it gets quite expensive
For sure and it can be super high if you go with small units from brands that charge high for replacement filters. The air fanat3pro is one option and I know Nukit is working on a device that uses ikea filters that are available and cheap from eu. As soon as it’s available I will buy for review.
Their website is showing a £412 international delivery fee to the UK. And that's excluding the cost of the unit itself. Did you use any special delivery service to get it to the UK any cheaper than that?
Just had a look at the old invoice to check and it was much lower. I checked again when replying to you and it also gave an estimate of $500+ for delivery on their site. Maybe it would be worth reaching out to ask them? Maybe the costs were much higher than they expected. It's hard to reccomend at this price. I am going to be reviewing another kit from a Canadian company - Northbox that also does kits and might be cheaper but you may need to buy the fans yourself.
@@HouseFresh thanks for the update! I've messaged them. Hopefully it's just an error on the shipping costs calculator. Looking forward to the new review!
@@carlestyle Great, I have also emailed them as it did seem a little high. Hopefully there will be a way to get these devices to the UK affordably as they are great devices and could do a lot of help to keep our air clean.
The delivery cost and issues with filters in the UK was the reason to go with a traditional Hepa for now. Ordered a heavier Vital 200S from the US, and the delivery turned to be below £50
The description of "Three Exhalaron Tri H10 6.5" filters says . "These include an activated-carbon layer to help with odors and VOCs." It is a Clean air kits model.
Their website says it can be placed against a wall, “stands tall or wide against a wall” - wouldn’t wide side against a wall impede the functionality? I’m hoping to put it against a wall but concerned the intake on the wall side wouldn’t have any flow.
Yes these would be large enough to be picked up by a MERV 13 filter. I would also look into ways you can reduce humidity that might be causing the mold in the first place.
The big benefit of these devices is sound level. At full speed, a Blue Pure 211+ will hit 55.7 dBA vs 38.8 dBA. Plus, you can easily fix these devices, and the filters costs will generally be cheaper as you use HVAC vs. propriety HEPASilent. But for a long time the 211+ was at the top of my list of devices I had tested, it performs very well at particle removal.
The Blue Pure 211+ has a pre-filter so its main filter will last for years. This product has no pre-filter so you need to change the filter every 3 months as the performance degrades without a pre-filter.
Thanks for the great breakdown and comprehensive results. I have the XXL version and love it though do agree about possible durability especially if you have children or pets.
The mesh guards are a game changer. I didn't want to spend the extra $75ish, but it makes such a huge difference that I am slowly adding them to all my existing Luggables (and I have soooo many because of putting them in my kids' classrooms, karate studios, etc.)
@@CleanAirCommunications I will look at getting the mesh guards when I next get a device from Clean Air Kit as with little boys I just know they will accidently damage the filters!
I thought most agree that non HEPA isn't a big issue with portable air purifiers: itsairborne.com/hepa-filter-faq-4bcf084cb64e ua-cam.com/video/gaQTYrisieA/v-deo.html Maybe I am missing something so happy to learn.
@@HouseFresh just in general. All these super efficient filters using pc fans are non hepa. Is that why they are efficient? Do most homes need hepa? It would be a good topic to cover.
@@biomerlcleanairkits has a ton of information on their website on this very topic. Actually, it’s a big part of why they starting building these kits.
@@biomerlHealthy Home Guide has some videos on this. Essentially, the somewhat less dense HVAC filters like MERV 13 grade allow greater flow with less noise/cost/energy/surface area. This results in a much more effective product for home use, as it has a much higher Clean Air Delivery Rate/CADR (aka more particles captured) despite the lower capture efficiency. HEPA filters are still useful in cleanrooms, hospitals, and vacuum cleaners, but consumer HEPA purifiers are much too small to match MERV filters for this general air filtration use case.
@@HouseFreshI have no experience with either but I’m thinking that although the Airfanta will perform better (higher CADR) than Luggables XL, the Luggables will have higher CADR per dB performance….which will justify the higher cost of the Luggables XL. Can’t wait till your Airfanta review comes out so I can see how all the data shakes out!
@@randygonzalez5758 Neither of them have a pre-filter so it means the filter performance rapidly degrades over time compared to products with a pre-filter.
i don't understand how the Nukit is so expensive without providing any fan or power supply at all... metal is neat but the Luggable is a great step in the right direction!
I assume it must be the raw cost of the metal vs the board that clean air kits uses. Can see some use cases that need durability vs non-metal but does come at a higher cost. Luggable is very impressive, feels like a game changer.
The landfill is full of PC cases for zero dollars. Add 6 Noctua fans, two MERV 13 filters, and you're all set. And if you think about it, the MERV filters aren't even necessary. You're looking at the tree and not at the forest.
We are going to try and build someting with an old PC case and see how it performs. I think the challenges are getting the right size case for the filters and finding a good way to keep them in place that looks clean.
Not sure how Clean Air Kits did theirs but I know the guys from Nukit Tempest have also shared their designs for others to make: hackaday.com/2024/01/16/a-practical-open-source-air-purifier/
I'm not sure it's suitable to measure dB by itself. Rather, measure effectiveness by expressing dB/cfm. Also, it looked like your particle counters were placed right next to the output. All that's doing is confirming the filter manufacturer's claims are legit and that there isn't much bypass. It would be better to measure particulate at X feet away to understand how well the space is being cleaned, not just the area right around the unit. That would also be referenced to dB/cfm.
Will test moving the sensors but expect a similar results as it’s a fairly small room with high ceilings . I don’t get why dB by itself isn’t possible as it would still makes a noise even if it isn’t cleaning the air. Can you explain more, maybe I don’t understand 🤷
I'm the least crafty person in the United States. You can have that title for your country, I suppose. :) (And I have still managed to assemble 4 of these so far (3 different varieties)
You can buy a mesh filter guard that will provide extra protection and acts like a pre filter. I doubt you will need to change every 3 months unless the air quality in your area is really bad.
Starting the TLDR in the first minute🧑🍳 is a fantastic move. Still watching the entire thing but I know what to look for with those burning Qs out of the way.
Thanks this was an idea from Rodrigo our editor and we will be using this will all videos moving forward.
Thank for letting us know you appreciate , it’s super useful to get this feedback quickly.
Very interesting video!
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I am thinking of picking this up for my living room and bedroom Since quietness is a big factor. Thinking about biting the bullet on the mesh guard as well for longevity.
Looking forward to the AirFanta review, hoping to purchase that to use for travel purposes
Great to hear, Air fanta review will be out soon.
I’m very surprised the Luggable XL performed so much better than the Nukit Tempest on the PM1.0 removal test (20 min vs 31 min). I’m thinking the reason is due to the quality of the air filters. Luggables use the acclaimed Filtrete filters and Nukit Tempest use generic 2 inch filters
Yes I have had similar thoughts and David Elfstrom reached out to say the same . The problem I have is trying to get better quality 2 inch filter that will deliver ti the UK. Will keep looking as I think it will perform much better with different filters.
@@HouseFresh Do you think with equivalent filters performance would be the same? Is the Nukit more sturdy?
Hi, how do you compare this company brand with the Tempest, which is the metal version? I have two large dogs and young children so I’m worried about it getting broken. I know the Tempest is made of metal so I’m assuming that it’s more durable? And is one more efficient than the other?
Similar ideas with both pc fans and hvac filters. I found this one a little easier to build and is bigger and has more fans it was very quick at removing particles.
I found the filters easier to find in my location for the luggable one, could only get from filter buy for the tempest. Depends on location, are you US?
Be sure to get the extra $70 guard as filter can be sharp.
Similar ideas with both pc fans and hvac filters. I found this one a little easier to build and is bigger and has more fans it was very quick at removing particles.
I found the filters easier to find in my location for the luggable one, could only get from filter buy for the tempest. Depends on location, are you US?
Be sure to get the extra $70 guard as filter can be sharp. But durability will be better with the Nukit tempest for sure. I eagerly away the EU version that uses lkea filters .
@@HouseFresh Thank you so much for responding so quickly. Yes I think I’m going to go with this fan or maybe the end table style from same company you mentioned in video since it may be a little sturdier. I’m glad I asked you first.
One issue I have of being in the EU is that those filters are rare and hard to find, mostly because we have no in home AC system that uses those filters.
the few sellers that do sell it have a minimum requirement order of 12pcs, and when you live on your own and only need 4-6 pieces for a 2 filter model, it gets quite expensive
What do you do for heat mostly? boiler units?
For sure and it can be super high if you go with small units from brands that charge high for replacement filters.
The air fanat3pro is one option and I know Nukit is working on a device that uses ikea filters that are available and cheap from eu.
As soon as it’s available I will buy for review.
Talking for me we have radiators powered by gas boiler which is common in the UK. Some
are moving to heat pumps.
I have seen the 20x20*1 3M Filtrete from Amazon UK which likely work with the smaller luggable with smaller number of fans .
I know a EU Nukit tempest is in the works that uses ikea filters instead.
Their website is showing a £412 international delivery fee to the UK. And that's excluding the cost of the unit itself. Did you use any special delivery service to get it to the UK any cheaper than that?
Just had a look at the old invoice to check and it was much lower. I checked again when replying to you and it also gave an estimate of $500+ for delivery on their site. Maybe it would be worth reaching out to ask them? Maybe the costs were much higher than they expected. It's hard to reccomend at this price.
I am going to be reviewing another kit from a Canadian company - Northbox that also does kits and might be cheaper but you may need to buy the fans yourself.
@@HouseFresh thanks for the update! I've messaged them. Hopefully it's just an error on the shipping costs calculator. Looking forward to the new review!
@@carlestyle Great, I have also emailed them as it did seem a little high. Hopefully there will be a way to get these devices to the UK affordably as they are great devices and could do a lot of help to keep our air clean.
The delivery cost and issues with filters in the UK was the reason to go with a traditional Hepa for now. Ordered a heavier Vital 200S from the US, and the delivery turned to be below £50
Are there any "homemade" purifiers with carbon filters in the market?
Not true homemade by I heard the air Fanta will have options for carbon filters as well.
The description of "Three Exhalaron Tri H10 6.5" filters says . "These include an activated-carbon layer to help with odors and VOCs." It is a Clean air kits model.
Their website says it can be placed against a wall, “stands tall or wide against a wall” - wouldn’t wide side against a wall impede the functionality? I’m hoping to put it against a wall but concerned the intake on the wall side wouldn’t have any flow.
As long is it’s not touching the wall it should be ok. But I would prefer a few inches either side.
Does the kit capture mold?
Yes these would be large enough to be picked up by a MERV 13 filter. I would also look into ways you can reduce humidity that might be causing the mold in the first place.
Great video
Thank you! Much appreciated.
And here I thought I messed up by buying a Blue Pure 211+. But turns out its even better than this more expensive kit? So confusing lol
The big benefit of these devices is sound level. At full speed, a Blue Pure 211+ will hit 55.7 dBA vs 38.8 dBA. Plus, you can easily fix these devices, and the filters costs will generally be cheaper as you use HVAC vs. propriety HEPASilent.
But for a long time the 211+ was at the top of my list of devices I had tested, it performs very well at particle removal.
@@HouseFresh ah. That makes sense. Thank you
The Blue Pure 211+ has a pre-filter so its main filter will last for years. This product has no pre-filter so you need to change the filter every 3 months as the performance degrades without a pre-filter.
Perhaps you could add a carbon pre filter. Tons of carbon filters on Amazon might even be able to buy them by the foot.
@@qewfsdsd65445 Blueair reccomends changing the filters on the Blue Pure 211+ every 6 months.
Thanks for the great breakdown and comprehensive results. I have the XXL version and love it though do agree about possible durability especially if you have children or pets.
Thanks for the kind words and yes the durability is the only thing as I know my 3 year old will just want to mess around it 😂
The mesh guards are a game changer. I didn't want to spend the extra $75ish, but it makes such a huge difference that I am slowly adding them to all my existing Luggables (and I have soooo many because of putting them in my kids' classrooms, karate studios, etc.)
@@CleanAirCommunications Game changer how? Were people getting hurt before?
@@CleanAirCommunications I will look at getting the mesh guards when I next get a device from Clean Air Kit as with little boys I just know they will accidently damage the filters!
Awesome to hear you give them to places, I asked our youngest nursery but they didn't even want to use HEPA retail devices - such a shame!
I think you should cover what it means that these arent hepa.
I thought most agree that non HEPA isn't a big issue with portable air purifiers:
itsairborne.com/hepa-filter-faq-4bcf084cb64e
ua-cam.com/video/gaQTYrisieA/v-deo.html
Maybe I am missing something so happy to learn.
@@HouseFresh just in general. All these super efficient filters using pc fans are non hepa. Is that why they are efficient? Do most homes need hepa? It would be a good topic to cover.
@@biomerlsorry yes that makes a lot of sense to cover this more, will include in next pc fan kit review! Thanks for the idea.
@@biomerlcleanairkits has a ton of information on their website on this very topic. Actually, it’s a big part of why they starting building these kits.
@@biomerlHealthy Home Guide has some videos on this. Essentially, the somewhat less dense HVAC filters like MERV 13 grade allow greater flow with less noise/cost/energy/surface area. This results in a much more effective product for home use, as it has a much higher Clean Air Delivery Rate/CADR (aka more particles captured) despite the lower capture efficiency.
HEPA filters are still useful in cleanrooms, hospitals, and vacuum cleaners, but consumer HEPA purifiers are much too small to match MERV filters for this general air filtration use case.
Great review! Enjoyed it very much. Definitely one of the purifiers I considered before going airfanta
This means a ton from you 😀 Air Fanta will be next week and it was great that I got to compare them both. Spoiler I also really like the Air Fanta.
@@HouseFreshI have no experience with either but I’m thinking that although the Airfanta will perform better (higher CADR) than Luggables XL, the Luggables will have higher CADR per dB performance….which will justify the higher cost of the Luggables XL.
Can’t wait till your Airfanta review comes out so I can see how all the data shakes out!
@@randygonzalez5758 Neither of them have a pre-filter so it means the filter performance rapidly degrades over time compared to products with a pre-filter.
i don't understand how the Nukit is so expensive without providing any fan or power supply at all... metal is neat but the Luggable is a great step in the right direction!
I assume it must be the raw cost of the metal vs the board that clean air kits uses. Can see some use cases that need durability vs non-metal but does come at a higher cost. Luggable is very impressive, feels like a game changer.
The landfill is full of PC cases for zero dollars. Add 6 Noctua fans, two MERV 13 filters, and you're all set. And if you think about it, the MERV filters aren't even necessary. You're looking at the tree and not at the forest.
We are going to try and build someting with an old PC case and see how it performs. I think the challenges are getting the right size case for the filters and finding a good way to keep them in place that looks clean.
love your videos for their technical content. that sliding bouncing transition in the production/editing is kinda nauseating to watch tho
Hey sorry for that, I am finishing the northbox 6xl so I will apply your feedback. Thanks 💙 (the guy who edits)
£170 for some pre-cut panels, PC fans and a PSU.
Its fair it's a pricier option but there has been a lot of thought put into the design. I would love to see someone doing a kit based in the UK.
@@HouseFresh The people that you mentioned designed this, did they do this in the open or is it private to the company producing these?
Not sure how Clean Air Kits did theirs but I know the guys from Nukit Tempest have also shared their designs for others to make: hackaday.com/2024/01/16/a-practical-open-source-air-purifier/
I'm not sure it's suitable to measure dB by itself. Rather, measure effectiveness by expressing dB/cfm. Also, it looked like your particle counters were placed right next to the output. All that's doing is confirming the filter manufacturer's claims are legit and that there isn't much bypass. It would be better to measure particulate at X feet away to understand how well the space is being cleaned, not just the area right around the unit. That would also be referenced to dB/cfm.
Will test moving the sensors but expect a similar results as it’s a fairly small room with high ceilings . I don’t get why dB by itself isn’t possible as it would still makes a noise even if it isn’t cleaning the air. Can you explain more, maybe I don’t understand 🤷
I'm the least crafty person in the United States. You can have that title for your country, I suppose. :) (And I have still managed to assemble 4 of these so far (3 different varieties)
With no pre-filter it's almost useless as you'll need to change the filters every three months.
You can buy a mesh filter guard that will provide extra protection and acts like a pre filter. I doubt you will need to change every 3 months unless the air quality in your area is really bad.