Former 'Dirty Jobs' host on why we never seem to have 'safe spaces,' snowflake culture and protests at trade schools and why there's a plumber shortage #Tucker
Students at trade schools are not your garden variety spoiled kids that have been pampered by their parents. Most of the trade students are working and paying for their own training. They already know the value of having to earn something. They generally aren’t the ones that had the parents demanding they get a trophy just for showing up.
Great point! I haven't watched this video yet cuz I sometimes like to see the comments first but your comment really makes sense to me. It's like I do know the answer to why protests don't happen in trade schools but I couldn't articulate it. Thanks for helping me. Have a great day :)
Whoever is stupid enough to believe there aren't any protests over tech schools is ignorant of the fates of trade schools like trump university and ITT Tech.
Time has proven he was correct, this interview is 4 years old... the infantilization of human language limits the ability to communicate and discuss complex ideas, it might explain why so many people today riot as if they were 5-year-old children throwing tantrums.
@@rimshot6444 Right wingers do tend to riot like that. That is why the NAZIs are right wingers. Human language is capable of discussing issues and concepts you don't even imagine. The problem is the rich do not think deeply, they think narrowly focused on getting richer. I doubt Bill Gates has any idea how Windows works.
“ He just speaks the truth…“ That’s cute because he actually was never a blue-collar worker. He actually went to the very universities people like yourself despise and he majored in… Communications. And acting. So essentially what that amounts to is he is a salesman telling you what you want to hear. He is putting on a façade. Are you aware what a facade is...?
He's given money by Koch Industries which are anti union and anti minimum wage. Mike also supports these ideals and pushing people to go after trade schools instead of colleges despite holding a liberal arts degree himself and never really having to work in the fields he preaches about.
I have a graduate degree but have always been a supporter of trade and tech schools for most teens. We need plumbers, electricians, carpenters, truck drivers more than we need theoreticians and pundits.
We need to disallow illegals from taking the trade jobs for lower pay. Yes, the first generation shows up on time, works very hard...but their kids take on our entitlement notions and we all are losing ground.
Love the 'soft skills': don't take a phone call during an interview, pull your pants up and tuck your shirt in, show up on time........ Mike Rowe reminds us of one of the greatest assets of all to possess - common sense.
@@sirena7116 In the world of the "intelligentsia", when they are incorrect, they face little to no consequences - no repercussions - they just proceed to the next babble and their flaws just fade away. When a trade makes a mistake, it is physical, provable and irrefutable. Not sure what you mean by the "soft skills" but I respect a carpenter or stone mason far more than I do a politician, lawyer or journalist.
I would add that the "teachers" who instruct skill sets in trade schools have actually worked in the real world at some point in their lives. They understand the world so much better than the "Ivy walls professors" who obtained their Ph.D. and Master's degrees in the sheltered liberal hive and NEVER interacted with the real world. I think Thomas Sowell hit the nail on the head with respect to "intellectuals" when he said, "“ Many intellectuals are so preoccupied with the notion that their own special knowledge exceeds the average special knowledge of millions of other people that they overlook the often far more consequential fact that their mundane knowledge is not even one-tenth of the total mundane knowledge of those millions."
It seems that real men work in the trades and you must be willing to give up a lot to make something of yourself and their is no better place than working in a trade where you are the Boss.
@@Crankupus who cares at least he made something of himself. We need to quit drilling into kids heads that if they don't go to college and bury themselves in debt they'll never become anything.
I'm a millennial, I'm 24 years old, and I was raised in a conservative Christian house and I'm in the Air Force right now. When I look at the sea of...stupidity from my generation, it's frightening. Scary. Honestly the reason that I decided to not be entitled and in a dream world like a lot of these people are is due to my parents. They... parented. I would venture to say the parents have messed up our generation by trying to make us feel good instead of teaching us to be good.
@@MDAdams72668 yeah I hate to break it to you? When was the last time you saw a tradesman successfully perform a complex medical operation? Or successfully argue a case in court? Or for that matter discover a scientific advancement beyond putting part a into slot b?
@@theQuestion626 Well I have stitched my own cuts(not complex medicine) set my own broken bones(ribs fingers and toes) won several court cases including one vs the federal government and hold 2 patents So 2 outa three ain't bad
@@MDAdams72668 I find your rather anecdotal story not very convincing. Try to actually post citations next time OK? Are you capable of that…? I mean your story reads exactly as it sounds. A story. Something completely made up. I’m not really surprised because they don’t actually teach evidence-based debate at trade schools. Frankly if you are the template that following generations should aspire to… Then they really are in trouble.
No it wasn't, they implied that the two things are linked with a misleading title and that Mike Rowe holds an opinion critical of Universities, which isn't the case since he holds a communications degree and has said several times that he thinks college is valuable for some people.
No the only ones implying it are the ones who uploaded the video and gave it a title. The subject of protest isn't even brought up or addressed. The differences between the school and Universities aren't even discussed. The implication doesn't exists without the misleading title. Mike Rowe's part of the video is just saying that people should consider going to trade school. That's it. And honestly if going to a university leads you down a path of questioning authority and becoming an activist that isn't a bad thing. This country was founded and improved and build by activism. You supposed conservatives forget that.
I basically said what Mike said to a big Department store (won't give the name) manager when I was a 19 yr. old "kid" when I was applying for manager of the automive dept. (which I knew about well and cars) and told him I want to be good enough to have his job when I work and grow with this company ! He gave this look first and I just kept looking and smiled then he laughed and said.... okay you're hired.... LoL True Story. That was 1980. Well I moved on from there and went working for a defense contract company (still H.S. diploma) but worked hard with mechanic maint. dept. Got married and the wife stayed home and raised 3 kids...LATER adopted one...(long story) and retired ! It was VERY HARD and finances were tight....but WORTH IT !!!! and gave me PRIDE !!! 👍
@@mario-qq7bq Sure your making more, but think about this. How much did medical school cost you and how long did that take you? These guys get out into the field faster and cheaper and make lots of money so everything has it ups and downs.
as some one who supervises and hires, in a trade field, this is spot on. I told my son to show up on time or early if possible, dress one level up, be polite, answer questions in full sentences, no slang. He's been hired on the spot at every interview. You only have one chance to make a first impression.
Mike Rowe is one of those few people blessed with the ability to articulate common sense. A skill that seems to be sadly lacking in much of the modern media.
@Dwight Cook lol you're mad that a plumber makes more in an hour than you do in a day. It's okay buddy some people work for what they want. Others make excuses
@Box Addict funny how the one that charges less seems to be the one that’s called in regardless of job. Try to exercise some critical thinking next time yeah…?
@Dwight Cook you didn't hire a "plumber", you hired an illegal Mexican for $10 to dig around in your toilet. I can't tell if you're bragging or just being racist and making up stories. Plumber's daughter here. My father made 70k a year in 1985. You obviously don't make enough to hire a licensed Plumber so I'll stop at that.
At the end of the day all tradesman and wemon are trained highly and obtain real world skills and get to experience different types of work and environments whilst getting paid well and still have time to spend with their families
I had a strange experience when seeking a job after the factory I worked in for twenty three years was bought and closed. The personnel manager interviewing me looked at my resumé and asked why I remained employed at one place for so long. I replied that it paid well and most of my bosses appreciated my good work. The interviewer said I should've been out looking for a better job. He suggested that I'd settled into a feather bed and was comfortably drifting toward retirement. I was taken aback. I was always told that loyalty to a good employer was a virtue. I considered the possibility he was testing me but he persisted in finding fault with my resumé, finally dismissing me. He didn't actually say "Don't call us ... we'll call you" but his demeaner made it clear I had no chance to be hired. It was just as well. I had no desire to be associated with any business that would hire a jackass like him.
Personally I see nothing wrong with "Comfortably drifting along until retirement". I'd like to live a comfortable life while I still have a life to live, damnit!
I believe that hard work and loyalty are some of the best traits and are often overlooked. I truly believe that you will find a job that is worthy of your loyalty and hard work.
Venus Williams was once asked at a press conference what emojis she and her sister liked the most. She replied: "My sister and I prefer to communicate in English". Yeah,, baby!
STEM is a mental illness (if doing it for your first job with no connections at a 4 year college). Business is a mental illness. Liberal Arts is a mental illness. COLLEGE = SERF/BOOMER BOSS/CORPORATE COCKSUCKING/ANTIHUMAN/NOFREEDOM/TEAMBUILDINGEXERCISES/OFFICESPACE. Trade school = Freedom/Patriotism/Friendly Drop out before 130 time limit is up. Don't Miss out.
@@Doritos-ik5eu Yeah, i think there's a reason for that.. trades often happen to be things people REALLY can't live without, like plumber, electrician, HVAC repairman. Am i right?
@@comment6864 Let's see you live without the Internet for a couple of days. I'm sure older people could do it easily, but watching kids these days, it's like an IV drip feeding them life.
I love Mike Rowe! He has a wonderful speaking voice and can express himself in a way that is informative and entertaining. His mother is just Ike him and hilarious
Most people who go to trade school and finish actually get a good job. An alarming number of traditional 4 year college graduates are having a hard time finding good jobs. College promise you future success but there is no promise. College ultimately just promises a degree if you finish, not a job. Trade school prepares you for real life.
When I was in middle management, this was the truth. The employee that you told to do a task, did that task, and then came back for another task was the one who got the hours they wanted, days off etc. I made sure that the employees all KNEW that too because I didn't want them thinking I was playing favorites. I was accused of that once and I replied "If you do what she does, I'll treat you exactly the same."
I been having issues with migraines for close to 5 years now. Job transferred me to another location. At the knew place with a bad migraine, mine being so severe I have to be on medication as they can cause me to vomit, pass out and can effect my liver. My migraine hit and I'm still at work. Boss was arguing with me telling me to go home and I was arguing back saying I can't cause all the work that has to be done. I'm doped up on meds, dizzy, and I'm walking the floor showing him all the work that has to be done still. He told me to hurry up and finish so I can go home. Never have I ever gotten into an argument with a manager like that. He knows I'm a worker and a work horse. The high water came too and I still made it to work.
i went to trade school. got an apprenticeship before i graduated. was fully employed right out of school. worked for over 30 years and made $$$ with no school loan to pay. i am now retired and have money to retire on. trade schools fill important high paying jobs.
I went to college. Was blown away at all the kids stressing out and claiming it is super difficult...i found it very easy if i managed my time. Ended up going into the trades, not because im stupid, but because i saw more potential...im now making more money than all my classmates that are working "college degree required" jobs.
It's a video clip of FOX news! Don't believe me look on the lower left part of the screen, the FOX logo is very conspicuous. Again the stupidity of a republican is on full display
College can be extremely difficult, but it depends on what field you are studying and how much of a masochist you are. I don't recommend taking multivariable Calculus as a summer course, 7 hour class periods with an exam every day is a stupid idea. I still have no idea why I ever decided to do this.
The trades where I work all pay over $40hr. Fitters, electricians, plumbers, HAVC, painters, iron workers, painters, laborers, etc....every one of them is making over 100k with a modest amount of OT. And the kicker is with with the apprentice programs, they not only have no student loans to pay back, they were paid to learn these great skills. Of course you work hard, get dirty, and it's definitely a mans game, but nothing a shower and huge paycheck can't compensate for.
The reason schools don't emphasize learning English is because English is HARD, and they don't want to risk damaging their students' colossally fragile egos.
and so we tend to blame the kids. but it's the schools. and they do what the govts tell them to do. and we elect the govts. and then we fail to monitor what they do. so who should we blame?
@@abrogard142 I think the OP michael rodrigues is partially right, and the rest of the explanation is, it isn't just that the learning is hard, the teaching is also hard. And this work is too often being done not so much in every instance by our best and brightest. The thing that isn't mentioned about the problem of teachers teaching their own political agendas is, how much less work is involved for everyone, and particularly the teachers.
English is hard?? I learned functional American English in six months, spoke fluently and was skilled at the fourth grade level within a year. After two years, I spoke and wrote American English better than my peers. I suppose being European helped a lot.
I spoke with an interviewers and they said that up to 80% of candidates could not pass either the background or drug test. 80%! I was so astounded! 80%!
Background meaning people have been arrested or gone to prison? There's so much more to background than legal system issues and that alone should not automatically disqualify people for employment.
After 20 years in the Coast Guard a university education was the easiest thing I had ever done. I was shocked at the stress level of all the young students. I also realized that universities are full of smoke and mirrors. A carnival fun house full of people who assume they are far more important to the world then they REALLY are. Oh, and WAY overpaid. The financial waste due to egos is amazing. As an adjunct instructor I often advise people who just want to get a good job to think of trade schools. Tuition went up over 40% in the time I was an undergrad with absolutely NO improvement in the educational experience.
Biggest 'regret' of my young adulthood...not getting a skilled trade out of the gate... My dumb, culturally influenced teenage thought process: i was aware of the "track system" designating students into tracks based on performance and perceived potential (basically 3 tracks...college bound, tech school bound, retail/military/service industry/etc track)... i saw that the kids getting free voc training were the "dumb kids" or "bad kids" and i was a "smart academic kid" (boy did i have that reversed!)...they were jump starting real skill for free. The other thing i didnt understand til later was my state's flawless integration of community colleges into 4 year state university programs. So, if i wanted a bachelors after learning a useful and valuable skill, that skill would have let me pay for the degree instead of borrowing, i could have gone for cheaper spending half my time at CC and not having debt. I was a 3rd year drop out. Was deeply depressed and seeing that it wasnt about learning as much as hoop jumping for paper approval. I hiked the appalachian trail and never finished my degree. Got all the debt though but earned half the wages on average. Was angry about my choices for maybe 2-3 years after but thru positive pressure found the world of entrepreneurship via school of hard knocks so now im just grateful for the struggle. I had to give my TL; DR rant in case some random kid scrolls by and they have a gut feeling telling them not to go to college but they still have a desire to learn and explore the world. You have many options, college included if you choose to use it strategically.
Glad to hear everything worked out all right. Got about 2 years left of university myself (Econ & CS major), and I'm still wondering if I'd be better off without all this debt. All the best.
Same here! After 20 years in the USAF I went back to school taking night classes because I was working full time. I expected to see the night classes full of people like me, middle age working folks trying to advance themselves. There were some of us and we tended to group tightly together in class because the rest of the class was full of slackers that didn't want to get up for class in the morning and were generally stoned by the time class started. It was so easy! All I had to do was show up on time, study the materials, and turn my assignments on time. That's it! No one was going to die in a fiery crash because I missed a step in the assignment, there was no nuclear weapon that was going to explode if I messed up, no professor was going to send me TDY to some s###hole for 90 days because it was my turn. I graduated Phi Theta Kappa and it was EASY. I didn't want to leave. Now I'm old enough to go to class for free, what fun!
Benedict Akinjo - the debt is worth it if you pursue something economically viable. I graduated with a EE degree in December and have about 6months left of payments. I went to a state college though so cheaper than flagship schools. Companies don’t care that much about school reputation. My high gpa and projects I worked on got me the gig.
I think parents should be the primary example for their kids and teach them how to be adults, and set the expectation that their kids begin behaving more and more like adults as they approach their late teen years Schools should stop interfering with that by trying to replace parents. Schools should certainly reinforce skills like *critical thinking*, proper & effective verbal & written communication, and help students understand the range of career choices available to them, and what's required for success in those careers.
@IAM REAL we complain the parents don't have the life skills to manage money and work and only want handouts, then complain the kids don't have the life skills to manage money and job interviews, then complain it's not the school's job to teach the kids how to be adults. How about we just teach the kids and be done with it, no matter who or how. Why not both parents and schools. Why not parents, schools, and extra programs. Ah but that costs money to the gov to finance these extra programs and teach these kids... right. Who's gonna be paying income tax as older adults? Oh right, the kids who know how to manage money, earn money, have successful careers... meh why change the system when we can keep things broke.
"High schools need to teach kids how to interview and become adults." If they did that, some snowflake would probably complain about how "offensive" it is.
i've found working class people have more wisdom, wit and charisma than any other group i've ever met. i wise man once said: "artists and philosophers have one thing in common; they don't know anything"
@@censortube8838 i'm a blue collar guy aswel, and yes, i stay by my word on blue collar people. as for Jordan Peterson, i never called him an idiot or even brought him up for that matter, so i don't know why you did. i happen to owe a lot to him.
Half the problem is kids today didn't experience hardships. Growing up,our family got five cords of pulp wood to the road every week. Bucksaw and a axe were the tools. We carried the logs out on our backs, wasn't impressed when they stopped buying four foot and went to eight foot logs!😂🤣 Dad was working far away so mom fell the trees and the oldest limbed with the axe. Today I sit in the very house my parents built,on the same land. We appreciate hard work and the results it attains!😁👍
"Half the problem is kids today didn't experience hardships." Exactly! No high school graduate should go straight to college with the hope of getting a cushy office job as a reward. Every high school graduate who plans to go to college should first work a nasty backbreaking manual labor job for 2 years, like Tito Ortiz did. I disagree with the traditional high school policy of promoting college to high school seniors. Hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times.
After being forced into retirement from injuries, I went to trade school for HVAC. Smartest thing I ever did. Ran my own business for 5 years and retired again. There are a lot of people who would do far better in trade school than college.
Mr. Rowe, you have outdone yourself! You would do very well presenting TED talks...Now, let's talk about your bid for the Presidency of the USA. I would vote for you in a heart beat!
When I graduated HS my parents said their job was done and I needed to get a job and an apartment. Borrowing thousands upon thousands of dollars without knowing how to pay it back wasn't in style back then so I bounced around a couple of years and went into the Army. 2 years later I went into the Warrant Officer flight program and a year after that was flying helicopters. Left the military 3 years later with solid mid management experience, over 1000 hrs of flight time, no debt and a skill that was always in demand around the world. Flew helicopters and airplanes for the next 34 years before retiring in Europe. The Army gave me a skill that allowed me to work anywhere in the world earning over $100K most of the last 20 work years. Served as Director of Safety, Director of Training, Chief Pilot and Director of Operations over the years. Now, I just keep the Harley maintained and plan my next trip around the European countryside. Still only have a High School diploma. I can't even imagine spending 4-6 years in school and after having to pay off $100K. I remember when college grads turned their noses up at trades. Not so much anymore.
Yeah, but that's because the Army taught you those skills, try going to a civilian flight school for a rotary-wing license. You're looking at spending at least $125,000 and then where are you going to get hired with the hours you have compared to a military helicopter pilot who has thousands of hours?
@@kevinwiens4804 Unfortunately the military only started out as a kid with limited choices looking for a way out of a dreary life. Fortunately, I took advantage of the opportunities offered, reenlisted and went to flight school. Joining the Army was out of desperation, reenlisting for flight school was a smart career move. Flying and working around the world fit me like a glove. I was as excited on my last flight 7 1/2 years ago as I was on the first flight 38 years earlier.
REALLY liked the point about “soft skills”. so many young jerks walk around the job like they own the place. Entitlement is just unbelievable nowadays....
And their damned phones. Good God, can they set them down for one minute to have a conversation about work? I know I sound like the "get of my grass" old dude, but damn it, get off the phone!
I've seen older prople who don't have "soft skills" either. You see entitlement in every generation. Thankfully, most people are not horribly entitled though.
You know how you take a copy of a copy and keep going until eventually the copy is blank? Yeah, that's society with every new generation. Parenting, education, social skills, you name it.
I took a course in High School in Automotive Technology, which is just learning how to be a professional car mechanic. I have to say, that was the most enjoyable course I had ever taken in my life. Bunch of like minded people working on a trade and profession they love. There were other course like, Electrician, Plumbing, Automotive Body etc. Most of the students there really work hard on what they do. Now I am a third year student stuck in college and sometimes regret not furthering my career as a automotive mechanic.
School of hard knocks!! Took a few diesel mechanic classes, but only to refine my skills. Born to a farmer/Machinist and a trucking company dispatcher, raised on the family farm. I am a farmer, I am a welder/fabricator, I am a heavy equipment/diesel mechanic... I am a laborer, I am a person who can doctor sick Livestock.. I can build buildings, run heavy equipment.... All that aside, yes, I do sweep the shop floor too!!!! Sadly, very few "kids" today, can competently do half of what I was doing 40 years ago... And, I'm still doing it every day!!! Only kids worth hiring anymore, grew up on Farms... That means less than 1% of today's young people are worth hiring.. the other 99% can't even sweep the shop floor 😥
Sadly, some of them aren't worth the dirt on your boots anymore. I remember the idea that, if you couldn't find an engineer to solve something, just ask a farmer. They'll figure it out. But now, it's getting harder to find farm kids that care about any of that.
I taught hs math for couple of years; I was at the first wave of jobs being evaporated. I saw a lot of kids who were not college material but they had a passion for Wood working, welding,mechanics, computer repair; as a teacher, I was told that ALL students were required to apply to college. Sadly, this did a great disservice to a number of trades that could use a few great workers!
My grandfather had a few sayings about work. The first was your early, your on time. If your on time your late. And if your late your fired. The second was, of you expect and honest days pay do an honest days work. And lastly, of you don't know something ask. You can't be fired for asking questions
Tradesmen are what keeps the United States moving. When our air conditioning dies on a 100 degree day we don't call a communications student or What else are they teaching in college these days.
Yes but the comms major makes money every time someone uses a phone to contact you. They make money the easy way while you would rather go out in extreme heat and work..🧐but college is hard huh
Tammy Wines When my AC goes down I always call the Sociology or Anthropology majors. Why? Because they're the ones answering the busy HVAC Technicians' phones.
Tradesmen keep it running, but I don't feel as though they are the exclusive propelling force behind our country's development. Moving implies that there's innovation, which would be coming from research and development. Some people are here to make our devices/systems work in the first place (engineers, product designers, etc) and others make sure those devices continue to work. Everyone has a purpose, don't try to put one group down to raise another one up.
The reason you did'nt hear about the trade schools. It's because you can read these comments and see for yourselves, the many success stories of those who did the hard work to achieve their goals. I like Rowe, I think he did it on purpose, so you would read the comments for this video. Genius in my opinion!
I made over 120k last year with a four year apprenticeship under my belt. My sister has a masters in education and makes 70k a year. I look at salaries that require a bachelors to get the job and I would hate to take a pay cut to do those jobs. The future is in the trades but we have encouraged our children for years to go to college
Executive 1 In my opinion AI is the wrong direction. It takes the human factor out of decisions. So it depends on how it is programmed or, God help us, it learns and adapts on it's own which will be bad.
Tim Possible , well didnt you get the memo . Because there isn't protests at trade schools. Bahahahaha . The liberal fascist progressive socialist ideology is creating the metaphysical slaves for dems . For democrats have been outed as what they have always been the antiamerican party.
newbyrobert49 the Republicans aren't pro American they're pro corporations and pro wealthy few. She's looking America is about freedom for all not just capitalism benefiting the few.
This made me laugh. I was making a purchase recently and the cashier was explaining return policy to me and he said 'B C' and I said excuse me and he repeated 'B C'. I said ohhhh you mean 'because'.... but you are in a hurry? Can't make it up!
My last interview.... everyone said they were suprised I showed up in a suit. After being there a year and I saw another interviewee come in. Wore pajama pants and flip flops. Got the job. Working at a hospital taking care of patients. Merica!
My son is 15 in grade 10. He is doing grade 12 auto this year. He will be in the schools apprenticeship auto mechanics program next year. When he graduates high school he will be employable as a mechanic apprentice and will have earned 1 year of that apprenticeship from his high school years. He will have a very good chance at getting into the rail road as a diesel mechanic. At 22 he will be a full time journeyman mechanic making $95,000 per year. His friends that are going to university will be heavily in debt still in university or just out working some random job making minimum wage living in mom's basement.
Hey fellow Deplorable! So motivated to read about the wise course your son is following! This kind of narrative is exactly what Mike Rowe has followed in his series and his personal exultation s. Hats off!
Well, I have to admit, I have no idea what an "EMOJIS" is. I do have a net worth of 2.5 million dollars. Do I still need an "EMOJIS"? If I do I might be able to buy one, that is if I knew what it was in the first place.
@@MrBikboi Who's bragging, 2.5 is about the minimum a person will need to live 30 years in retirement after SS and Medicare go bust. Hell, rent in CA is 5000 a month. And, what is an EMOJIS??
Better to start from the bottom and work your way up; than to try to start at the top, fail miserably, go down to the bottom, and then work your way back up again.
As an older employee dealing with younger "boss" types it is equally a nightmare. They cannot tell you what they want when you ask them what they want you to do.
Personally, from someone who owned a steel fab business, where I interviewed and hired employees, I can tell you that an interview can not guarantee you a good employee. My best employees came from word of mouth, personal observation at local Vo-Techs, colleges, competitors shops, and sniping them from other employers by offering them a better deal. I had machinists who would scare the daylights out of some personnel managers over their tattoos, but they were some of the best machinists and welders in the area.
We send far too many kids to universities these days. Kids who would have not qualified for university several generations ago are now getting useless credentials in newly invented, yet unmarketable, fields of study. There has been an explosion of kids paying for a pseudo-academic degree in the social sciences which has no path to employment, except perhaps if they continue long enough to be able to teach it to the next set of rubes. It's time to encourage more kids to take up trades. Some of the smartest people you'll ever meet are in the trades.
I love Mike Rowe. Cant say it enough. Helped me reaffirm in myself that working hard/smart, and doing the right thing is ok, and most importantly that doing what you love will become the path and lead to your goals. Even if you have to get a little dirty on the way.
Oddly enough while in school in the 1970's, the "bad" kids were sent to "Vo-tech" school. Vocational Technical School was the "Alternative" school of the day.
"The art of letter-writing is fast dying out. When a letter cost ninepence, it seemed but fair to try to make it worth ninepence ... Now, however, we think we are too busy for such old-fashioned correspondence. We fire off a multitude of rapid and short notes, instead of sitting down to have a good talk over a real sheet of paper." Anthony Wilson Thorold 1896 lol
Mike Rowe for President. Period. He would never want that, he would never take that... he is way too smart. But stay with me for a minute here. He is honest (would never make it as a politician), but we need honesty at the highest levels. He is humble (would never make it as a politician), but we need humility in the White House. He understands the value of a hard days work (blue or white collar). He has the ability to adapt to the level of the audience he is currently engaged in conversation with. Show me another man that can debate with pundits at 7am, learn a new job at noon, encourage young adults to work hard before dinner, and sound so dang good all the while. Patiently waiting...
@OrganicOrganist Care to elaborate? Simply because it’s a somewhat common trade to pursue or because the stereotype that all welders are alcoholics/drug addicts? Lol
@OrganicOrganist Not the ones I know. The guy I know also is a risk manager for a major hospital in NM, owns his own welding business, AND real estate.
@@scottjoseph9578 You can certainly make bank, especially in supply, the problem is with Welding you are always sucking in poison fumes which is hard on your body and gives you a shorter lifespan (most blue collar workers retire in their 60s absolutely shot)
I went to trade school. It was the best experience of my teenage years. It helped me build character and work-ethic. Nowadays, I employ 11 people. Trade School Rocks!
Bkniggafrmvandykesuwoo X-ray jobs is what I went to a trade for, I got my NCT certification its a entry level x-ray job! And from what I've seen any medical job is in need. I would look heavily into locksmithing, painting, relestate and working for your local city. Hope this helped bro
Mike Rowe really embodies this idea that you can be incredibly intelligent and see the futility in a college degree. Hopefully the next generation, or even Gen Z at the least, will see that sheer value in what he is saying.
@@Hawken54 Oh absolutely, I can attest to that from experience. I took a course in political theory last year, just for the fun of it being an economics student, and the prof submitted the best final grades based on how well those students agreed with left-wing ideology. Some of the materials required for the course were the likes of Marx, Engels, Arendt, Foucault, etc., with no consideration for other thinkers, such as Friedman, deemed a little more conservative. The architecture of that course was founded on telling one side of the story and nothing further, as anything else was regarded as being on the 'wrong side' of history. I don't play the identity politics game, nor do I subscribe to a certain party, but I would at least like an eclectic understanding of the topic when I'm paying thousands just to walk through the door. Brainwashing at its finest!
I know people who brag about having college degrees and they think of themselves as superior to others that never went to a 4 year college in Liberal Arts and such. I ask them how does their education assist them in a skilled labor job such as, Auto/Diesel Tech, Carpentry, Electrician (etc) since they think they have a superior mind. No real answer.
@Wyatt that's an excellent assessment, I would say. It's interesting how the vast majority tends to flip-flop from one extreme to the other while the issues remain largely the same. My key contention is that while all of this is happening, government intervention gets more and more prominent regardless of which wing the administration is best categorized by.
We need more liberal art students, like: lesbian interpretive dance theory, gender studies, native hurt feelings programs and transgender reflective theory. How else would Starbucks staff their stores???
Liberal arts education is where you waste two or more years taking classes you don't want to take and wasting tens of thousands of dollars so you can have a more "well rounded" education.
I attended a HVAC trade school a few years back lasted nine months after graduating had a few options line up but I went with Grainger. For anyone thinking about joining trade schools do it, it's a life changer.
So you are an HVAC technician? Grainger doesn't design those systems that I know of? That trade has been dead for many years! Check it out? Contractors or architects with MEs have taken over.
Agreed. I'm studying to be a land surveyor and GIS technician. They are badly needed, and the field pays well. I also love the work. A degree in underwater feminism from Yale is useless in today's economy.
I'm going to college for mechanical engineering but my 4-year schedule literally has all the milestones of what I'll be learning. It makes me think that college is becoming less valuable. For 4 years of college, tuition will total to $24K. I can go to Barnes and Noble and get all my engineering textbooks and learn on my own, read research papers, learn off the internet but I won't have a bachelor's degree (a fancy piece of paper that just declares that I did my homework and passed my classes) that corporations require.
@@wyattb3138 I am guessing that you are just starting your degree. Unfortunately, engineering does not really work like that. Engineering is a full blown profession, you have to have a license to practice it. It is actually the same as being a doctor or a lawyer. You can actually graduate with an engineering degree and not legally be an engineer, this probably will be what happens as a license requires more than just a degree. You can do engineering work without a license but you will have to get someone with the license to sign off on it after and you wont be able to call yourself an Engineer legally. It can be difficult to get a job like that in a company without a degree as your qualifications are not as easy to prove. It is usually possible to become an engineer without getting the degree but Id advise against that path. It requires you to take a lot of exams that are more difficult and there is not always a lot of guidance for them when compared to university exams. Also textbooks and online sources are not the easiest to learn from when you are just starting and are best used to enhance your understanding. The university path is much smoother and better overall. I wish you good luck during your degree, as a person that just completed an aerospace engineering degree, it is going to get tough at moments.
When I graduated college with my degree in mechanical engineering a few years back, I did pretty much what Mike said at 4:10, plus throw in that I live on a farm and have a broad set of skills not taught in school to back up my degree, and I was hired almost instantly. It's amazing what you can do with a little ambition and having your shit together. Having skills for a trade is important, but it's those soft skills that get you in the door.
46 years I've been driving semis. Owner operator for the last 31, hauling off road in the oil patch and hauling logs all winter. You can keep your white collar jobs. My wife and I live comfortably in a large house on 10 acres in the bush, worth half a million.
I got my cdl for $600 dollars. I would not recommend trucking schools. Go to your local DMV and they will give you a phamplet to study for the computer exam. After that find some one to rent a semi from. That's what I did. I am working for FedEx making 1200 a week, and get to come home every night. I am 30 years old and have no debt. To be honest I regret not going to school to learn how to be a welder, but life could be worst.
Angelo Garcia finding your post is timely indeed. I have been thi king about switching up careers, and driving for UPS or FedEx was a thought. Thank you for the tips..
BAD NEWS: Trade school protests aren't mentioned in the video. GOOD NEWS: You checked the comments first and got the bad news up front. ACTUAL CONTENT: EMOJI GRIPING.
1. The main reason for emojis is to compensate for the lack of nuance in any sort of text messaging, that which is present in normal face-to-face conversation. That said, what has happened in recent years is that some users (young people, mostly) do get carried away with them. 2. Being interviewed requires some skill, yes, but what is forgotten amidst the many conversations and articles and books and seminars on this subject, is how to *conduct* an interview. A small-business owner is not necessarily an expert on human resources management. He may know what he's looking for, but not necessarily how to ask for it, or how to size up another person. Most interviewers I visited when I got out of college didn't know much of anything. One time I ended up becoming the interviewer, asking them about their company, the setup in their particular department, and so on.
And that's why college educated Human Resource Professionals are needed. That tradesman out in the shop wants to know that their payroll, and benefits are being handled by someone capable. Because that is ALSO needed to support the trades.
I said something very similar to my new boss. When asked about what my job was, I replied: "My job is to make your job managing me as easy as possible."
I could see a union tradesman with socialist leanings becoming a teacher at a trade school, but I imagine trade school teachers usually don't discuss politics regardless of their views. Edit: I guess one exception is my left-leaning friend who hated his bricklaying instructor because he constantly talked about how awesome Trump is.
Pretty simple: Students at trade schools value the skills they are learning and appreciate the opportunity.
Students at trade schools are not your garden variety spoiled kids that have been pampered by their parents. Most of the trade students are working and paying for their own training. They already know the value of having to earn something. They generally aren’t the ones that had the parents demanding they get a trophy just for showing up.
I used my GI bill in trade school. Got a welding and joining cerification, Instructors and Class mates were all outstanding.
Great point! I haven't watched this video yet cuz I sometimes like to see the comments first but your comment really makes sense to me. It's like I do know the answer to why protests don't happen in trade schools but I couldn't articulate it. Thanks for helping me. Have a great day :)
And trade school students know that upon graduation they will have a great opportunity to earn good money in jobs that really count for something!
"Appreciate the opportunity". You've obviously never met a teenager before.
Because trade schools are loaded with mature functional young adults with a work ethic
lol -- that's a joke right?
and no Bachelor of Arts degree in sight…lol
@@Trevor7727 I’m a welder with a BS
And a few snot nosed kids who's moms dropped them at the door.. lol
@@Trevor7727 I'm an electrician with a BS in IT/IS....I make over 150k a year and I don't even use my degree.
Yet another reason I like Mike Rowe so much. He calls things as they truly are.
Whoever is stupid enough to believe there aren't any protests over tech schools is ignorant of the fates of trade schools like trump university and ITT Tech.
Time has proven he was correct, this interview is 4 years old... the infantilization of human language limits the ability to communicate and discuss complex ideas, it might explain why so many people today riot as if they were 5-year-old children throwing tantrums.
He is a BSer.
@@rimshot6444 Right wingers do tend to riot like that. That is why the NAZIs are right wingers.
Human language is capable of discussing issues and concepts you don't even imagine.
The problem is the rich do not think deeply, they think narrowly focused on getting richer. I doubt Bill Gates has any idea how Windows works.
He is for the blue collar man now both parties have flipped now.
Love Mike Rowe. One of the few in this country with no agenda. He just speaks the truth.
So true....Honest men and women who speak in truths are rare today.
No, Pat. Everyone has got an agenda..
Pat when you say one of few what kinda numbers are you meaning?
“ He just speaks the truth…“
That’s cute because he actually was never a blue-collar worker. He actually went to the very universities people like yourself despise and he majored in… Communications. And acting. So essentially what that amounts to is he is a salesman telling you what you want to hear. He is putting on a façade. Are you aware what a facade is...?
He's given money by Koch Industries which are anti union and anti minimum wage. Mike also supports these ideals and pushing people to go after trade schools instead of colleges despite holding a liberal arts degree himself and never really having to work in the fields he preaches about.
I have a graduate degree but have always been a supporter of trade and tech schools for most teens. We need plumbers, electricians, carpenters, truck drivers more than we need theoreticians and pundits.
1950Grendel truck drivers are going to be replaced by a.i within ten years,
We need to disallow illegals from taking the trade jobs for lower pay.
Yes, the first generation shows up on time, works very hard...but their kids take on our entitlement notions and we
all are losing ground.
Love the 'soft skills': don't take a phone call during an interview, pull your pants up and tuck your shirt in, show up on time........ Mike Rowe reminds us of one of the greatest assets of all to possess - common sense.
And manners. Humility with assertiveness.
> pull your pants up
Fascist!
I was told soft skills are simply people skills. They vary a bit by location and or culture, but most are the same regardless of where you go.
@@sirena7116 In the world of the "intelligentsia", when they are incorrect, they face little to no consequences - no repercussions - they just proceed to the next babble and their flaws just fade away. When a trade makes a mistake, it is physical, provable and irrefutable. Not sure what you mean by the "soft skills" but I respect a carpenter or stone mason far more than I do a politician, lawyer or journalist.
On-time is right so long as you remember 10 minutes early is 'on-time'
I would add that the "teachers" who instruct skill sets in trade schools have actually worked in the real world at some point in their lives. They understand the world so much better than the "Ivy walls professors" who obtained their Ph.D. and Master's degrees in the sheltered liberal hive and NEVER interacted with the real world. I think Thomas Sowell hit the nail on the head with respect to "intellectuals" when he said, "“ Many intellectuals are so preoccupied with the notion that their own special knowledge exceeds the average special knowledge of millions of other people that they overlook the often far more consequential fact that their mundane knowledge is not even one-tenth of the total mundane knowledge of those millions."
Or you're too stupid to become a computer engineer
I Freaking Love Mr. Rowe And His Enthusiasm For The Trades!
It seems that real men work in the trades and you must be willing to give up a lot to make something of yourself and their is no better place than working in a trade where you are the Boss.
before Regan stomped on unions, they had apprenticeships.
@@roningram5877 Oh please.. unions are a racket. They're just a very problem-laden way to compensate for lacking employee protection laws.
Says guy who went to theater school and got a degree in communications. Can we get a real tradesman on here? This guy is cringe.
@@Crankupus who cares at least he made something of himself. We need to quit drilling into kids heads that if they don't go to college and bury themselves in debt they'll never become anything.
I'm a millennial, I'm 24 years old, and I was raised in a conservative Christian house and I'm in the Air Force right now. When I look at the sea of...stupidity from my generation, it's frightening. Scary. Honestly the reason that I decided to not be entitled and in a dream world like a lot of these people are is due to my parents. They... parented. I would venture to say the parents have messed up our generation by trying to make us feel good instead of teaching us to be good.
wow, that hits the nail on the head. Teach us to feel good rather than be good :O
Mike Rowe has the answers that most don't want to hear, but he is exactly on point.
30 Years In The HVAC Trades All Due To School Shop , Welding , Electrical , Plumbing. Make As Much $$$ As A White Collar Worker ! No Regrets !
Hey congratulations! That goes to prove absolutely nothing! But thank you for playing!
To bad they don't have any shop in HS anymore the kids don't have a chance
@@MDAdams72668 yeah I hate to break it to you? When was the last time you saw a tradesman successfully perform a complex medical operation? Or successfully argue a case in court? Or for that matter discover a scientific advancement beyond putting part a into slot b?
@@theQuestion626 Well I have stitched my own cuts(not complex medicine) set my own broken bones(ribs fingers and toes) won several court cases including one vs the federal government and hold 2 patents So 2 outa three ain't bad
@@MDAdams72668 I find your rather anecdotal story not very convincing. Try to actually post citations next time OK? Are you capable of that…?
I mean your story reads exactly as it sounds. A story. Something completely made up. I’m not really surprised because they don’t actually teach evidence-based debate at trade schools.
Frankly if you are the template that following generations should aspire to… Then they really are in trouble.
People who work in the trades are in general, impossible to brainwash......because they are grounded in reality.
Did anybody hear why we never see protests at trade schools in this video? I sure didn't...
That's the whole point....there busy working and not whining....
Its almost as if Fox News is dishonest and is trying to score political points off of a guest who rarely talks about politics.
No it wasn't, they implied that the two things are linked with a misleading title and that Mike Rowe holds an opinion critical of Universities, which isn't the case since he holds a communications degree and has said several times that he thinks college is valuable for some people.
Joseph Blow it was implied. If you have to be spoon fed, well...
No the only ones implying it are the ones who uploaded the video and gave it a title. The subject of protest isn't even brought up or addressed. The differences between the school and Universities aren't even discussed. The implication doesn't exists without the misleading title. Mike Rowe's part of the video is just saying that people should consider going to trade school. That's it. And honestly if going to a university leads you down a path of questioning authority and becoming an activist that isn't a bad thing. This country was founded and improved and build by activism. You supposed conservatives forget that.
I basically said what Mike said to a big Department store (won't give the name) manager when I was a 19 yr. old "kid" when I was applying for manager of the automive dept. (which I knew about well and cars) and told him I want to be good enough to have his job when I work and grow with this company ! He gave this look first and I just kept looking and smiled then he laughed and said.... okay you're hired.... LoL True Story. That was 1980. Well I moved on from there and went working for a defense contract company (still H.S. diploma) but worked hard with mechanic maint. dept. Got married and the wife stayed home and raised 3 kids...LATER adopted one...(long story) and retired !
It was VERY HARD and finances were tight....but WORTH IT !!!! and gave me PRIDE !!! 👍
Trade schools teaches real world experiences, things that you can make real money at
and uni doesnt? i guess some majors in uni are useless but most arent
I am a doctor I make more than any of these trade school worker.
@@mario-qq7bq Sure your making more, but think about this. How much did medical school cost you and how long did that take you? These guys get out into the field faster and cheaper and make lots of money so everything has it ups and downs.
@@jando3637 it took 12 year and 400k of debt but guest what I payed it off it 3 years. My salary as a general surgery is 403k a year.
as some one who supervises and hires, in a trade field, this is spot on. I told my son to show up on time or early if possible, dress one level up, be polite, answer questions in full sentences, no slang. He's been hired on the spot at every interview. You only have one chance to make a first impression.
Mike Rowe is one of those few people blessed with the ability to articulate common sense. A skill that seems to be sadly lacking in much of the modern media.
Plumber's apprentice here. Thanks for the red pill, Mike.
@Dwight Cook lol you're mad that a plumber makes more in an hour than you do in a day. It's okay buddy some people work for what they want. Others make excuses
@Box Addict funny how the one that charges less seems to be the one that’s called in regardless of job. Try to exercise some critical thinking next time yeah…?
@Dwight Cook you didn't hire a "plumber", you hired an illegal Mexican for $10 to dig around in your toilet. I can't tell if you're bragging or just being racist and making up stories. Plumber's daughter here. My father made 70k a year in 1985. You obviously don't make enough to hire a licensed Plumber so I'll stop at that.
At the end of the day all tradesman and wemon are trained highly and obtain real world skills and get to experience different types of work and environments whilst getting paid well and still have time to spend with their families
I started the same way in 03..now a self employed plumber,,doing high end Bathrooms..$$$
I had a strange experience when seeking a job after the factory I worked in for twenty three years was bought and closed. The personnel manager interviewing me looked at my resumé and asked why I remained employed at one place for so long. I replied that it paid well and most of my bosses appreciated my good work. The interviewer said I should've been out looking for a better job. He suggested that I'd settled into a feather bed and was comfortably drifting toward retirement. I was taken aback. I was always told that loyalty to a good employer was a virtue. I considered the possibility he was testing me but he persisted in finding fault with my resumé, finally dismissing me. He didn't actually say "Don't call us ... we'll call you" but his demeaner made it clear I had no chance to be hired. It was just as well. I had no desire to be associated with any business that would hire a jackass like him.
Personally I see nothing wrong with "Comfortably drifting along until retirement". I'd like to live a comfortable life while I still have a life to live, damnit!
I believe that hard work and loyalty are some of the best traits and are often overlooked. I truly believe that you will find a job that is worthy of your loyalty and hard work.
Loyalty being a virtue is a crock....what's that going to get you in your old age
I agree one must have loyalty to oneself and not be afraid to bet on yourself and try different jobs to improve your standing and learn new things.
@@hoppercar well next time dont sell your soul
Venus Williams was once asked at a press conference what emojis she and her sister liked the most. She replied: "My sister and I prefer to communicate in English". Yeah,, baby!
I heard her communicating with the umpire. Would have preferred emogies..
STEM is a mental illness (if doing it for your first job with no connections at a 4 year college). Business is a mental illness. Liberal Arts is a mental illness. COLLEGE = SERF/BOOMER BOSS/CORPORATE COCKSUCKING/ANTIHUMAN/NOFREEDOM/TEAMBUILDINGEXERCISES/OFFICESPACE. Trade school = Freedom/Patriotism/Friendly
Drop out before 130 time limit is up. Don't Miss out.
@@Doritos-ik5eu Yeah, i think there's a reason for that.. trades often happen to be things people REALLY can't live without, like plumber, electrician, HVAC repairman. Am i right?
@@comment6864 Let's see you live without the Internet for a couple of days. I'm sure older people could do it easily, but watching kids these days, it's like an IV drip feeding them life.
@@Doritos-ik5eu "STEM is a mental illness" You post on the internet lolololololololololololololol
I love Mike Rowe! He has a wonderful speaking voice and can express himself in a way that is informative and entertaining. His mother is just Ike him and hilarious
Who is his mother? This is the first Ive seen of him.
Most people who go to trade school and finish actually get a good job. An alarming number of traditional 4 year college graduates are having a hard time finding good jobs. College promise you future success but there is no promise. College ultimately just promises a degree if you finish, not a job. Trade school prepares you for real life.
Best advice I could give for being an employee is make it so that your boss rarely needs to even think about you... Stay busy, get your job done.
Its amazing how many people lack this skill...
When I was in middle management, this was the truth. The employee that you told to do a task, did that task, and then came back for another task was the one who got the hours they wanted, days off etc. I made sure that the employees all KNEW that too because I didn't want them thinking I was playing favorites. I was accused of that once and I replied "If you do what she does, I'll treat you exactly the same."
I been having issues with migraines for close to 5 years now. Job transferred me to another location. At the knew place with a bad migraine, mine being so severe I have to be on medication as they can cause me to vomit, pass out and can effect my liver. My migraine hit and I'm still at work.
Boss was arguing with me telling me to go home and I was arguing back saying I can't cause all the work that has to be done. I'm doped up on meds, dizzy, and I'm walking the floor showing him all the work that has to be done still.
He told me to hurry up and finish so I can go home. Never have I ever gotten into an argument with a manager like that.
He knows I'm a worker and a work horse. The high water came too and I still made it to work.
i went to trade school. got an apprenticeship before i graduated. was fully employed right out of school. worked for over 30 years and made $$$ with no school loan to pay. i am now retired and have money to retire on. trade schools fill important high paying jobs.
what trade did you do?
I went to trades. Now I make 75K and no debt
Michael Gallegos Carpentry. Mostly windows and doors. Contract work is profitable.
You having no debt is a direct reflection of how smart you were to go to trades and not college.
That is admirable, but controlled debt could now be used as leverage to produce profit in addition to wages. For example, owning a house.
shuumai yes it is but most people don't understand that they just want a house and want it now not realizing they have Finance their whole lives
R L how do you know he's white! That's just a assumption you made. #Racist
I went to college. Was blown away at all the kids stressing out and claiming it is super difficult...i found it very easy if i managed my time. Ended up going into the trades, not because im stupid, but because i saw more potential...im now making more money than all my classmates that are working "college degree required" jobs.
And yet you are watching FOX news! Better get a refund on your degree. Oh wait you went for free
It's a video clip of FOX news! Don't believe me look on the lower left part of the screen, the FOX logo is very conspicuous. Again the stupidity of a republican is on full display
College can be extremely difficult, but it depends on what field you are studying and how much of a masochist you are. I don't recommend taking multivariable Calculus as a summer course, 7 hour class periods with an exam every day is a stupid idea. I still have no idea why I ever decided to do this.
The trades where I work all pay over $40hr. Fitters, electricians, plumbers, HAVC, painters, iron workers, painters, laborers, etc....every one of them is making over 100k with a modest amount of OT. And the kicker is with with the apprentice programs, they not only have no student loans to pay back, they were paid to learn these great skills. Of course you work hard, get dirty, and it's definitely a mans game, but nothing a shower and huge paycheck can't compensate for.
Matthew McKellar Matthew it may seem difficult now, but trust me if you decide to go to Med school or become an engineer it will be very helpful
The reason schools don't emphasize learning English is because English is HARD, and they don't want to risk damaging their students' colossally fragile egos.
and so we tend to blame the kids. but it's the schools. and they do what the govts tell them to do. and we elect the govts. and then we fail to monitor what they do.
so who should we blame?
@@abrogard142 I think the OP michael rodrigues is partially right, and the rest of the explanation is, it isn't just that the learning is hard, the teaching is also hard. And this work is too often being done not so much in every instance by our best and brightest. The thing that isn't mentioned about the problem of teachers teaching their own political agendas is, how much less work is involved for everyone, and particularly the teachers.
English is hard?? I learned functional American English in six months, spoke fluently and was skilled at the fourth grade level within a year. After two years, I spoke and wrote American English better than my peers. I suppose being European helped a lot.
@Slavery is Freedom, War is Peace Balls.
@@norbertsiewert3917 buddy, everyday conversational English is one thing. Majoring in English from a tough school is another.
I spoke with an interviewers and they said that up to 80% of candidates could not pass either the background or drug test. 80%! I was so astounded! 80%!
Before I retired in 2020, I heard the same thing from manufacturing suppliers.
Same 80% statistic, too.
Don't be astounded,,,,it's worse.
background?? Like what kinds of things were in their background? And what types of employees are you talking about?
Background meaning people have been arrested or gone to prison? There's so much more to background than legal system issues and that alone should not automatically disqualify people for employment.
After 20 years in the Coast Guard a university education was the easiest thing I had ever done. I was shocked at the stress level of all the young students. I also realized that universities are full of smoke and mirrors. A carnival fun house full of people who assume they are far more important to the world then they REALLY are. Oh, and WAY overpaid. The financial waste due to egos is amazing. As an adjunct instructor I often advise people who just want to get a good job to think of trade schools.
Tuition went up over 40% in the time I was an undergrad with absolutely NO improvement in the educational experience.
i wish i had gone to a trade school. i'd have something to offer that is always needed.
Biggest 'regret' of my young adulthood...not getting a skilled trade out of the gate...
My dumb, culturally influenced teenage thought process: i was aware of the "track system" designating students into tracks based on performance and perceived potential (basically 3 tracks...college bound, tech school bound, retail/military/service industry/etc track)... i saw that the kids getting free voc training were the "dumb kids" or "bad kids" and i was a "smart academic kid" (boy did i have that reversed!)...they were jump starting real skill for free.
The other thing i didnt understand til later was my state's flawless integration of community colleges into 4 year state university programs. So, if i wanted a bachelors after learning a useful and valuable skill, that skill would have let me pay for the degree instead of borrowing, i could have gone for cheaper spending half my time at CC and not having debt.
I was a 3rd year drop out. Was deeply depressed and seeing that it wasnt about learning as much as hoop jumping for paper approval. I hiked the appalachian trail and never finished my degree. Got all the debt though but earned half the wages on average. Was angry about my choices for maybe 2-3 years after but thru positive pressure found the world of entrepreneurship via school of hard knocks so now im just grateful for the struggle.
I had to give my TL; DR rant in case some random kid scrolls by and they have a gut feeling telling them not to go to college but they still have a desire to learn and explore the world. You have many options, college included if you choose to use it strategically.
Glad to hear everything worked out all right. Got about 2 years left of university myself (Econ & CS major), and I'm still wondering if I'd be better off without all this debt. All the best.
Same here! After 20 years in the USAF I went back to school taking night classes because I was working full time. I expected to see the night classes full of people like me, middle age working folks trying to advance themselves. There were some of us and we tended to group tightly together in class because the rest of the class was full of slackers that didn't want to get up for class in the morning and were generally stoned by the time class started.
It was so easy! All I had to do was show up on time, study the materials, and turn my assignments on time. That's it! No one was going to die in a fiery crash because I missed a step in the assignment, there was no nuclear weapon that was going to explode if I messed up, no professor was going to send me TDY to some s###hole for 90 days because it was my turn. I graduated Phi Theta Kappa and it was EASY. I didn't want to leave. Now I'm old enough to go to class for free, what fun!
Benedict Akinjo - the debt is worth it if you pursue something economically viable. I graduated with a EE degree in December and have about 6months left of payments. I went to a state college though so cheaper than flagship schools. Companies don’t care that much about school reputation. My high gpa and projects I worked on got me the gig.
High schools need to teach kids how to interview and become adults.
Along with how to manage money
I think parents should be the primary example for their kids and teach them how to be adults, and set the expectation that their kids begin behaving more and more like adults as they approach their late teen years Schools should stop interfering with that by trying to replace parents.
Schools should certainly reinforce skills like *critical thinking*, proper & effective verbal & written communication, and help students understand the range of career choices available to them, and what's required for success in those careers.
@IAM REAL we complain the parents don't have the life skills to manage money and work and only want handouts, then complain the kids don't have the life skills to manage money and job interviews, then complain it's not the school's job to teach the kids how to be adults. How about we just teach the kids and be done with it, no matter who or how. Why not both parents and schools. Why not parents, schools, and extra programs. Ah but that costs money to the gov to finance these extra programs and teach these kids... right. Who's gonna be paying income tax as older adults? Oh right, the kids who know how to manage money, earn money, have successful careers... meh why change the system when we can keep things broke.
"High schools need to teach kids how to interview and become adults."
If they did that, some snowflake would probably complain about how "offensive" it is.
And to save and invest 15% of their income
i've found working class people have more wisdom, wit and charisma than any other group i've ever met.
i wise man once said: "artists and philosophers have one thing in common; they don't know anything"
you're an idiot.
@@billymeeks845 You're hilarious Billy!
So you think Jordan Peterson is an idiot? . As a blue collar guy I can say most blue collar guys aren't that bright.
@@censortube8838 i'm a blue collar guy aswel, and yes, i stay by my word on blue collar people. as for Jordan Peterson, i never called him an idiot or even brought him up for that matter, so i don't know why you did. i happen to owe a lot to him.
@@ianbirchfield5124 Jordan Peterson is a philosopher
Half the problem is kids today didn't experience hardships. Growing up,our family got five cords of pulp wood to the road every week.
Bucksaw and a axe were the tools.
We carried the logs out on our backs, wasn't impressed when they stopped buying four foot and went to eight foot logs!😂🤣
Dad was working far away so mom fell the trees and the oldest limbed with the axe.
Today I sit in the very house my parents built,on the same land. We appreciate hard work and the results it attains!😁👍
"Half the problem is kids today didn't experience hardships."
Exactly! No high school graduate should go straight to college with the hope of getting a cushy office job as a reward. Every high school graduate who plans to go to college should first work a nasty backbreaking manual labor job for 2 years, like Tito Ortiz did. I disagree with the traditional high school policy of promoting college to high school seniors.
Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make good times.
Good times make weak men.
Weak men make hard times.
Mike Row continues to bring me joy by saying what I feel. Thank you sir.
Wow! Two of my most favorite and genuine American heroes today! Love watching great men have an honest, thoughtful, and sane discussion!
After being forced into retirement from injuries, I went to trade school for HVAC. Smartest thing I ever did. Ran my own business for 5 years and retired again. There are a lot of people who would do far better in trade school than college.
Mr. Rowe, you have outdone yourself! You would do very well presenting TED talks...Now, let's talk about your bid for the Presidency of the USA. I would vote for you in a heart beat!
When I graduated HS my parents said their job was done and I needed to get a job and an apartment. Borrowing thousands upon thousands of dollars without knowing how to pay it back wasn't in style back then so I bounced around a couple of years and went into the Army. 2 years later I went into the Warrant Officer flight program and a year after that was flying helicopters. Left the military 3 years later with solid mid management experience, over 1000 hrs of flight time, no debt and a skill that was always in demand around the world.
Flew helicopters and airplanes for the next 34 years before retiring in Europe. The Army gave me a skill that allowed me to work anywhere in the world earning over $100K most of the last 20 work years. Served as Director of Safety, Director of Training, Chief Pilot and Director of Operations over the years. Now, I just keep the Harley maintained and plan my next trip around the European countryside. Still only have a High School diploma.
I can't even imagine spending 4-6 years in school and after having to pay off $100K. I remember when college grads turned their noses up at trades. Not so much anymore.
thats cool im 25 and going no where in life really i want to become a pilot
Yeah, but that's because the Army taught you those skills, try going to a civilian flight school for a rotary-wing license. You're looking at spending at least $125,000 and then where are you going to get hired with the hours you have compared to a military helicopter pilot who has thousands of hours?
The military was a very smart career move!
@@kevinwiens4804 Unfortunately the military only started out as a kid with limited choices looking for a way out of a dreary life. Fortunately, I took advantage of the opportunities offered, reenlisted and went to flight school. Joining the Army was out of desperation, reenlisting for flight school was a smart career move. Flying and working around the world fit me like a glove. I was as excited on my last flight 7 1/2 years ago as I was on the first flight 38 years earlier.
@@jerlewis4291 So. Join the military.
REALLY liked the point about “soft skills”. so many young jerks walk around the job like they own the place. Entitlement is just unbelievable nowadays....
True! No one pays their dues and earns the right to act that way. Cocky, spoiled and undeserving...”The Least Generation “
And their damned phones. Good God, can they set them down for one minute to have a conversation about work? I know I sound like the "get of my grass" old dude, but damn it, get off the phone!
I've seen older prople who don't have "soft skills" either. You see entitlement in every generation. Thankfully, most people are not horribly entitled though.
You know how you take a copy of a copy and keep going until eventually the copy is blank?
Yeah, that's society with every new generation. Parenting, education, social skills, you name it.
" Mike Rowe: Why we never see protests at trade schools" *video contains nothing about protests or trade schools*
I took a course in High School in Automotive Technology, which is just learning how to be a professional car mechanic. I have to say, that was the most enjoyable course I had ever taken in my life. Bunch of like minded people working on a trade and profession they love. There were other course like, Electrician, Plumbing, Automotive Body etc. Most of the students there really work hard on what they do. Now I am a third year student stuck in college and sometimes regret not furthering my career as a automotive mechanic.
college is way overrated, it's mostly a finishing school for elite and privileged kids esp. schools with big Greek systems
Turn around
School of hard knocks!!
Took a few diesel mechanic classes, but only to refine my skills.
Born to a farmer/Machinist and a trucking company dispatcher, raised on the family farm. I am a farmer, I am a welder/fabricator, I am a heavy equipment/diesel mechanic... I am a laborer, I am a person who can doctor sick Livestock.. I can build buildings, run heavy equipment....
All that aside, yes, I do sweep the shop floor too!!!!
Sadly, very few "kids" today, can competently do half of what I was doing 40 years ago... And, I'm still doing it every day!!!
Only kids worth hiring anymore, grew up on Farms... That means less than 1% of today's young people are worth hiring.. the other 99% can't even sweep the shop floor 😥
Well said
Sadly, some of them aren't worth the dirt on your boots anymore. I remember the idea that, if you couldn't find an engineer to solve something, just ask a farmer. They'll figure it out. But now, it's getting harder to find farm kids that care about any of that.
Gosselin Farms Ed Gosselin import yourself a South African 😉
Many of us weren’t taught like you were nor had the same opportunities either.
Most high school kids don’t even know how to use a can opener🙃😝
I taught hs math for couple of years; I was at the first wave of jobs being evaporated. I saw a lot of kids who were not college material but they had a passion for
Wood working, welding,mechanics, computer repair; as a teacher, I was told that ALL students were required to apply to college. Sadly, this did a great disservice to a number of trades that could use a few great workers!
Yes. Soft skills is a great word for something very important.
My IT boss actually did me a great service in the long run - by requiring me to take an external communications seminar.
My grandfather had a few sayings about work.
The first was your early, your on time.
If your on time your late.
And if your late your fired.
The second was, of you expect and honest days pay do an honest days work.
And lastly, of you don't know something ask. You can't be fired for asking questions
Tradesmen are what keeps the United States moving. When our air conditioning dies on a 100 degree day we don't call a communications student or What else are they teaching in college these days.
Yes but the comms major makes money every time someone uses a phone to contact you. They make money the easy way while you would rather go out in extreme heat and work..🧐but college is hard huh
Tammy Wines
When my AC goes down I always call the Sociology or Anthropology majors. Why?
Because they're the ones answering the busy HVAC Technicians' phones.
Tradesmen keep it running, but I don't feel as though they are the exclusive propelling force behind our country's development. Moving implies that there's innovation, which would be coming from research and development. Some people are here to make our devices/systems work in the first place (engineers, product designers, etc) and others make sure those devices continue to work. Everyone has a purpose, don't try to put one group down to raise another one up.
there will be three wall units per room [made in china ] all just waiting to be turned on !!
just slide the unit in !!! bingo it works bye by !!!
You wouldn’t call a sociologist??? Haha. Or better - a gender studies student.
Key to success at work, "Do what is asked of you and a little more." That beats out the majority of the other workers these days.
My uncle taught me that.
The reason you did'nt hear about the trade schools. It's because you can read these comments and see for yourselves, the many success stories of those who did the hard work to achieve their goals. I like Rowe, I think he did it on purpose, so you would read the comments for this video. Genius in my opinion!
I made over 120k last year with a four year apprenticeship under my belt. My sister has a masters in education and makes 70k a year. I look at salaries that require a bachelors to get the job and I would hate to take a pay cut to do those jobs. The future is in the trades but we have encouraged our children for years to go to college
And the best part is those jobs cannot be exported
EJ Taylor the future is in A.I
Executive 1 I sure hope not.
EJ Taylor hope is irrelevant, A.I is coming
Executive 1 In my opinion AI is the wrong direction. It takes the human factor out of decisions. So it depends on how it is programmed or, God help us, it learns and adapts on it's own which will be bad.
This title had nothing to do with the video. Very misleading.
Tim Possible what the fuck where is conversation about trade school !?
Tim Possible , well didnt you get the memo . Because there isn't protests at trade schools. Bahahahaha . The liberal fascist progressive socialist ideology is creating the metaphysical slaves for dems . For democrats have been outed as what they have always been the antiamerican party.
newbyrobert49 or could it possibly be that the school of Frankfurt did not feel the need to infiltrate mechanics school
newbyrobert49 the Republicans aren't pro American they're pro corporations and pro wealthy few. She's looking America is about freedom for all not just capitalism benefiting the few.
You're right. They never once, mentioned Trade School.. It was a weird clip. FOX News nutz.
This made me laugh. I was making a purchase recently and the cashier was explaining return policy to me and he said 'B C' and I said excuse me and he repeated 'B C'. I said ohhhh you mean 'because'.... but you are in a hurry? Can't make it up!
My last interview.... everyone said they were suprised I showed up in a suit. After being there a year and I saw another interviewee come in. Wore pajama pants and flip flops. Got the job. Working at a hospital taking care of patients. Merica!
My son is 15 in grade 10. He is doing grade 12 auto this year. He will be in the schools apprenticeship auto mechanics program next year. When he graduates high school he will be employable as a mechanic apprentice and will have earned 1 year of that apprenticeship from his high school years.
He will have a very good chance at getting into the rail road as a diesel mechanic. At 22 he will be a full time journeyman mechanic making $95,000 per year.
His friends that are going to university will be heavily in debt still in university or just out working some random job making minimum wage living in mom's basement.
Hey fellow Deplorable! So motivated to read about the wise course your son is following! This kind of narrative is exactly what Mike Rowe has followed in his series and his personal exultation s.
Hats off!
But will he be happy?
blownspeakersss. Why would he mot be?
Deplorable Trumper Because it sounds like he’s just chasing the job for the money.
blownspeakersss. How do you figure?
Should be titled "interview with Mike roe, what are emojis?"
Well, I have to admit, I have no idea what an "EMOJIS" is. I do have a net worth of 2.5 million dollars. Do I still need an "EMOJIS"? If I do I might be able to buy one, that is if I knew what it was in the first place.
Smokey Walker
LOL you don't need one. None of us do. With $2.5M your smiley face should be real as it gets!
@@pcmountaindog I'm sure bragging about your net worth in the youtube comment section constitutes reality.
@@MrBikboi Who's bragging, 2.5 is about the minimum a person will need to live 30 years in retirement after SS and Medicare go bust. Hell, rent in CA is 5000 a month. And, what is an EMOJIS??
Spot on
I should've known as soon as I saw 'Tucker' that it would be cheap click bait. Rowe is intelligent as always.
I love that Mike is a big cheerleader in work from the ground up.
Better to start from the bottom and work your way up; than to try to start at the top, fail miserably, go down to the bottom, and then work your way back up again.
As an older employee dealing with younger "boss" types it is equally a nightmare. They cannot tell you what they want when you ask them what they want you to do.
00:40 Righteous Indignation. Mike is one witty, humble, and intelligent human being. Love this guy. Laughed at 1:48.
How could anyone dislike this? It’s the wisest things that have ever been said in this decade.
The answer is simple. They don't like hearing the truth.
So true, Mike is a true conservative. Wish we had more like him.
Personally, from someone who owned a steel fab business, where I interviewed and hired employees, I can tell you that an interview can not guarantee you a good employee. My best employees came from word of mouth, personal observation at local Vo-Techs, colleges, competitors shops, and sniping them from other employers by offering them a better deal. I had machinists who would scare the daylights out of some personnel managers over their tattoos, but they were some of the best machinists and welders in the area.
We send far too many kids to universities these days. Kids who would have not qualified for university several generations ago are now getting useless credentials in newly invented, yet unmarketable, fields of study. There has been an explosion of kids paying for a pseudo-academic degree in the social sciences which has no path to employment, except perhaps if they continue long enough to be able to teach it to the next set of rubes. It's time to encourage more kids to take up trades. Some of the smartest people you'll ever meet are in the trades.
CamberwellCarrot ....this is close to the most accurate telling of the story. Fake News, Fake Degrees in Squishy Majors.
Holy crap we have gone full circle! Excellent job Mike Rowe.
Mike Rowe is an amazing man that doesn’t tip toe around the difficult issues.
I love Mike Rowe. Cant say it enough. Helped me reaffirm in myself that working hard/smart, and doing the right thing is ok, and most importantly that doing what you love will become the path and lead to your goals. Even if you have to get a little dirty on the way.
Manners, etticate, social skills and knowing that the world does NOT revolve around YOU is what is missing now.
And spelling. By the way, it’s etiquette.
As a one-time recruiter and selector of employees (HR person) I gotta say how much I loved Mike's rendition of the perfect interview. FOTFLMAO
I'm in the world of both and a majority of those in college are those that don't want to get dirty or actually do physical work.
Rowe makes a lot of sense.
When Mike Rowe gets mad, is it called a Mike Rowe Aggression?
Nice!! I love this! This comment should have way more likes. LOL!!!
Oddly enough while in school in the 1970's, the "bad" kids were sent to "Vo-tech" school. Vocational Technical School was the "Alternative" school of the day.
Mike, thank you! I have been saying the very same things for years. It is so good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way.
"The art of letter-writing is fast dying out. When a letter cost ninepence, it seemed but fair to try to make it worth ninepence ... Now, however, we think we are too busy for such old-fashioned correspondence. We fire off a multitude of rapid and short notes, instead of sitting down to have a good talk over a real sheet of paper." Anthony Wilson Thorold 1896
lol
Astronut128 ...quite appropriate historical lament! Cheers!
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Workingman's Hero!
Mike Rowe is a national treasure. I'm always glad to hear from him about any subject including emojis.
Mike Rowe for President. Period. He would never want that, he would never take that... he is way too smart. But stay with me for a minute here. He is honest (would never make it as a politician), but we need honesty at the highest levels. He is humble (would never make it as a politician), but we need humility in the White House. He understands the value of a hard days work (blue or white collar). He has the ability to adapt to the level of the audience he is currently engaged in conversation with. Show me another man that can debate with pundits at 7am, learn a new job at noon, encourage young adults to work hard before dinner, and sound so dang good all the while. Patiently waiting...
About to graduate weld school, 2.5 years in and I'm pretty happy with my choice so far
@OrganicOrganist Care to elaborate? Simply because it’s a somewhat common trade to pursue or because the stereotype that all welders are alcoholics/drug addicts? Lol
@OrganicOrganist Not the ones I know. The guy I know also is a risk manager for a major hospital in NM, owns his own welding business, AND real estate.
Question? Which school? I've been told Tulsa is the best, but I'm eager for ideas.
@@scottjoseph9578 You can certainly make bank, especially in supply, the problem is with Welding you are always sucking in poison fumes which is hard on your body and gives you a shorter lifespan (most blue collar workers retire in their 60s absolutely shot)
@@SlayerofFiction Thank you!
I went to trade school. It was the best experience of my teenage years. It helped me build character and work-ethic. Nowadays, I employ 11 people. Trade School Rocks!
Thanks again Mike Rowe.
I spent a year at community and knew I would never go back trade school was the best decision no debt no anti male campuses and the best part....a job
And no punctuation!
Gazzara5 What trades are currently or in need of demand in the next years ?
Bkniggafrmvandykesuwoo X-ray jobs is what I went to a trade for, I got my NCT certification its a entry level x-ray job! And from what I've seen any medical job is in need. I would look heavily into locksmithing, painting, relestate and working for your local city. Hope this helped bro
Timmy Bailey thanks bro
gregg brady he was an xray tech in the army? I thought about joining if I could get that job how was his experience in the services?
Mike Rowe really embodies this idea that you can be incredibly intelligent and see the futility in a college degree. Hopefully the next generation, or even Gen Z at the least, will see that sheer value in what he is saying.
They need to start at these universities and purge these professors with radical ideologies. They brainwash these students.
@@Hawken54 Oh absolutely, I can attest to that from experience. I took a course in political theory last year, just for the fun of it being an economics student, and the prof submitted the best final grades based on how well those students agreed with left-wing ideology. Some of the materials required for the course were the likes of Marx, Engels, Arendt, Foucault, etc., with no consideration for other thinkers, such as Friedman, deemed a little more conservative. The architecture of that course was founded on telling one side of the story and nothing further, as anything else was regarded as being on the 'wrong side' of history. I don't play the identity politics game, nor do I subscribe to a certain party, but I would at least like an eclectic understanding of the topic when I'm paying thousands just to walk through the door. Brainwashing at its finest!
I know people who brag about having college degrees and they think of themselves as superior to others that never went to a 4 year college in Liberal Arts and such. I ask them how does their education assist them in a skilled labor job such as, Auto/Diesel Tech, Carpentry, Electrician (etc) since they think they have a superior mind. No real answer.
@Wyatt that's an excellent assessment, I would say. It's interesting how the vast majority tends to flip-flop from one extreme to the other while the issues remain largely the same. My key contention is that while all of this is happening, government intervention gets more and more prominent regardless of which wing the administration is best categorized by.
It's been about 4 years, but i so remember this interview! Kudos to Rowe and Tuck!
Mike, you're a great man, great Opinions , great advice. Watched from your beginning. Always top notch.
We need more liberal art students, like: lesbian interpretive dance theory, gender studies, native hurt feelings programs and transgender reflective theory. How else would Starbucks staff their stores???
Warren C. You don't know what liberal arts is.
Many Starbucks employees are literal rocket scientists and engineering students that just need money to get through college.
Liberal arts education is where you waste two or more years taking classes you don't want to take and wasting tens of thousands of dollars so you can have a more "well rounded" education.
SJWs are not in the hard sciences ie maths, physics, chemistry ect..
Warren C. Liberal arts is a waste of time, money, and brains. There, now we know 😁
I attended a HVAC trade school a few years back lasted nine months after graduating had a few options line up but I went with Grainger. For anyone thinking about joining trade schools do it, it's a life changer.
So you are an HVAC technician? Grainger doesn't design those systems that I know of? That trade has been dead for many years! Check it out? Contractors or architects with MEs have taken over.
Tucker and Rowe are awesome!
I’m all in for Trade Workers. But, also think America needs “many more” students in the Math & Science degrees!
Agreed. I'm studying to be a land surveyor and GIS technician. They are badly needed, and the field pays well. I also love the work. A degree in underwater feminism from Yale is useless in today's economy.
@@emmacat3202 "underwater feminism" what the heck are they teaching
I'm going to college for mechanical engineering but my 4-year schedule literally has all the milestones of what I'll be learning. It makes me think that college is becoming less valuable. For 4 years of college, tuition will total to $24K. I can go to Barnes and Noble and get all my engineering textbooks and learn on my own, read research papers, learn off the internet but I won't have a bachelor's degree (a fancy piece of paper that just declares that I did my homework and passed my classes) that corporations require.
@@wyattb3138 I am guessing that you are just starting your degree. Unfortunately, engineering does not really work like that. Engineering is a full blown profession, you have to have a license to practice it. It is actually the same as being a doctor or a lawyer. You can actually graduate with an engineering degree and not legally be an engineer, this probably will be what happens as a license requires more than just a degree. You can do engineering work without a license but you will have to get someone with the license to sign off on it after and you wont be able to call yourself an Engineer legally. It can be difficult to get a job like that in a company without a degree as your qualifications are not as easy to prove. It is usually possible to become an engineer without getting the degree but Id advise against that path. It requires you to take a lot of exams that are more difficult and there is not always a lot of guidance for them when compared to university exams. Also textbooks and online sources are not the easiest to learn from when you are just starting and are best used to enhance your understanding. The university path is much smoother and better overall. I wish you good luck during your degree, as a person that just completed an aerospace engineering degree, it is going to get tough at moments.
When I graduated college with my degree in mechanical engineering a few years back, I did pretty much what Mike said at 4:10, plus throw in that I live on a farm and have a broad set of skills not taught in school to back up my degree, and I was hired almost instantly. It's amazing what you can do with a little ambition and having your shit together. Having skills for a trade is important, but it's those soft skills that get you in the door.
"Rowe: Why we never see protests at trade schools"
Would this constitute "Click bait?"
Yes. Yes it would.
It could be used in the dictionary as a way of illustrating what Click-bait is.
Shocked this guy hasn't been cancelled for speaking truth.....
46 years I've been driving semis. Owner operator for the last 31, hauling off road in the oil patch and hauling logs all winter. You can keep your white collar jobs. My wife and I live comfortably in a large house on 10 acres in the bush, worth half a million.
I got my cdl for $600 dollars. I would not recommend trucking schools. Go to your local DMV and they will give you a phamplet to study for the computer exam. After that find some one to rent a semi from. That's what I did. I am working for FedEx making 1200 a week, and get to come home every night. I am 30 years old and have no debt. To be honest I regret not going to school to learn how to be a welder, but life could be worst.
I have a pair of shoes older than 30 years :)
Angelo Garcia finding your post is timely indeed. I have been thi king about switching up careers, and driving for UPS or FedEx was a thought. Thank you for the tips..
Do welding as a part-time gig; go full-time if you like it.
You can still learn to be a welder, and it would give you a fall back career.
I am 52, in a plumbing program now. never too late.
I Love Mike Rowe!!! ❤️❤️❤️
BAD NEWS: Trade school protests aren't mentioned in the video.
GOOD NEWS: You checked the comments first and got the bad news up front.
ACTUAL CONTENT: EMOJI GRIPING.
Mmm that's disappointing
I always check comments first on possible clickbait vids, but didn't this time because I enjoy Mike Rowe, no matter the topic.
You see massive lines at the welfare office, but you don't see massive lines at Job fairs.
1. The main reason for emojis is to compensate for the lack of nuance in any sort of text messaging, that which is present in normal face-to-face conversation. That said, what has happened in recent years is that some users (young people, mostly) do get carried away with them.
2. Being interviewed requires some skill, yes, but what is forgotten amidst the many conversations and articles and books and seminars on this subject, is how to *conduct* an interview. A small-business owner is not necessarily an expert on human resources management. He may know what he's looking for, but not necessarily how to ask for it, or how to size up another person. Most interviewers I visited when I got out of college didn't know much of anything. One time I ended up becoming the interviewer, asking them about their company, the setup in their particular department, and so on.
David....we’ll summarized! Been there, T-shirt acquired, etc
And that's why college educated Human Resource Professionals are needed. That tradesman out in the shop wants to know that their payroll, and benefits are being handled by someone capable. Because that is ALSO needed to support the trades.
i'm a journeyman welder i've worked for many who don't belong in the bosses chair. those that can, do. those that can't, become the leader.
Same with teachers and government. Government requires no knowledge, teaching does.
Communication is the biggest skill of all. Simple courtesy, respect and manners.
I said something very similar to my new boss. When asked about what my job was, I replied: "My job is to make your job managing me as easy as possible."
And no Socialist teachers. Thank Heavens. They would be laughed out of the school.
I could see a union tradesman with socialist leanings becoming a teacher at a trade school, but I imagine trade school teachers usually don't discuss politics regardless of their views. Edit: I guess one exception is my left-leaning friend who hated his bricklaying instructor because he constantly talked about how awesome Trump is.
Socialism taught at a technical or trade school?? Such a course would be as out of place as a starfish in a forest!
Socialists think they are intellectual. Technical and trade schools are practical, and career oriented. No nonesense instititions!