@bonneemcgee448 You do know that part of the video was meant as satire but tbf you’re a diaz fanboy I wouldn’t expect you to know your face from your ass let alone know what satire means
@@drunkenmmamaster419 the only reason I feel bad for Nick Diaz is that cannabis is a banned substance for some stupid ass reason. But he didn't beat Carlos.
Yeah, honestly after the video explained that GSP-Hendricks wasn't going to be in it, I figured "now way Condit-Lawler makes it then"... Back when the fight happened, almost everyone thought Hendricks had beaten GSP, but now with cooler heads pretty much everyone agrees that the fight had more chance to be a draw than and win for Johnny. On the other hand, from day one most people called BS on the Condit-Lawler decision, and if anything, even *more* people are calling BS right now.
I liked WEC back in the day so most fighters from there like Carlos Condit, Chael Sonnen, Miguel Torres, Mike Swick, and Cub Swanson are easy to root for...but regardless I'd still say Condit won that fight.
If a fight ever felt like a true robbery while watching it was this fight for sure. Props to both men. Warriors the likes that the sport may never see again. Tough to see Robbie on the skid on his way to retirement.
Dominick Reyes definitely beat Jon Jones 48-47 and arguably 49-46. The only thing in Jones favour is that he was pressuring, that's it and the rules don't value pressure if the damage isn't close.
Was expecting Moreno losing the title to Fig but after seeing who made the list it makes sense why it didn’t make the cut. Huge Jones fan but in the last seconds of the Reyes fight my heart dropped thinking Jones just lost
@@dereklingerfelt9557 Oh okay yeah in terms of skill in MMA I could see that I used to be a fan but the multiple antic's really made me give up as a person I can't see why anyone would like him
Wait so why is GSP vs Hendricks a “robbery” but Jones vs Reyes or Lawler vs NBK isn’t? GSP vs Hendricks was at least as close as those 2 fights in my opinion
@@aaronthegold rewatch the fight or watch the Weasles vid rescoring it. Gsp clearly won by 1-2 pts he just took a shitload of damage but he does in almost any fight where the opponent can actually touch him. Gsp probably gets a black eye when a strong wind hits his face.
@@kauiki_7962 I agree, I think Usman won 3-2 but a lot of people think it should've been a draw with R2 10-8 Usman and then Covington winning the last 3 rounds. TheWeasle had a pretty good video breaking it down.
Rules are enforced very poorly across the board, and that's why he gets away with it. If they just deducted a few points from him and others more frequently, 10 years ago, the incidents would stop immediately
@@tbug5737 true geordie basically knows nothing of the sport but acts like he does so he is often calling good decisions bad and bad decisions good and just making bad calls during fights, not understanding submissions/grappling/wrestling just generally trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about but coming across as a major "casual" its like he doesn't even try to follow or understand the sport though and is happy just getting views.. it started when he somehow ended up commentating that first UA-cam boxing thing and he seen anything boxing and MMA brought him views 🤷♂
Joanna threw less & landed more. That means Weili threw more & missed more. That’s undeniable. What’s debatable is whether Weili is the harder puncher, or whether Joanna just bruises easier? If there was any 10-8 in Nate/Conor 2, it was the first round, not the third. Bullet out struck Nunes everywhere except on leg kicks, including in Amanda’s own TDs. Bear in mind there’s no way Bullet could ever get big enough to fight effectively at 145, and no way Nunes could ever get small enough to fight effectively at 125, with Amanda having a 2.5” reach & >3” height advantage. She should have dominated everywhere but got a win off of ineffective leg kicks & unproductive TDs.
Beautiful analysis bro. I thought JJ vs Weili 1 was a draw honestly. Weili has a hell of a chin. Agree on the Nate Connor as well. Nunes vs Shevchenko 2 was a robbery and you are on point there. Shevchenko can make 115 but she doesn't want to destroy herself doing that. 135 is not much physical difference for her than 125. Whereas Nunes has a tough cut to 135 and couldn't make 125 if she shaved her head and amputated a foot
About Amanda x The Bullet, first leg strikes and body strikes do count, second apart form the two last rounds Amanda actually outstruck The Bullet everywhere on round 1 and only landed 2 less head strike son 2 and 3 while outstriking her on body and leg strikes. Third none of the strikes in that fight were actually heavy, they were all pretty light, head or otherwise. And lastly overall the fight was super low volume, which makes it very hard to score. Also you gotta be a fanboy if the reason you scored that fight for Valentina is because she is smaller than Amanda therefore should somehow have a handicap ? That is one of the most stupid things I ever read in my life. The salt from both Valentina herself and her fans about that fight is legendary. I love ppl who do not understand the concept of a close fight and cry robbery.
Joanna bruises easier. I get a bruise out of anything, a hematoma out of a clean punch landed on my face. It sucks because the damage is superficial and you dont feel it at all and it doesnt really impact you unless its over the eye
@@AlphaQHard Nice one. These damage brahs really believe a fast, skilful striker who bruises easy should lose to a single punch that made a mark. Absolute donuts!
Comment on Condit vs Diaz: My friend and i watched it at the same time. We are both fans of both fighters. We both scored it for condit because he was doing really great counter work in the pocket. Even though diaz was the one following condit around. It was close but it was condit.
I mean people can argue all they want but putting Diaz-McGregor 2 top of this list is quite funny especially considering you can put forward a better argument for Conor winning the 5th round than Nate getting a 10-8 in the 3rd but then again that doesn’t discredit Conor’s win eh
The fact that one of the judges had a 49-46 for Jones is the shadiest scorecard I’ve ever seen, I’m convinced the judges bet on Jon and refused to let him lose, at least the other fights on here have reasonably close scorecards
@@yoshiuki__9589 If there was no argument, then it would be considered a robbery. There's no way you can say that Jones didn't have an argument to win that fight. He was literally the only fighter moving forward, and everybody accepts that he won the last two rounds, so it all comes down to the first three rounds. Reyes definitely wasn't dominating in those rounds cause like I said, Jones had all pressure, and the strikes also show that he wasn't out landing Jones by a lot of strikes. If strikes are even, you give it to the guy that's consistently moving forward.
@@allenmk138 Firstly if you read the scoring critetia of MMA damage and effective striking are both ranked higher than control, Therefore any judge that isnt corrupt or incompetent would Clearly see the fight for reyes.
I think people score McGregor Diaz 2 in Nate’s favor is actually because of the second round; at the end of the round Diaz landed a pretty good flurry on McGregor and had him backed up to the cage, and then on the live broadcast you had Goldberg declare that the fight was now 1-1. I think a lot of fans tend to forget the 2 knockdowns by McGregor in the first half of the round and instead remember the round for how it ended, and Goldberg saying what he did I think shows that and also probably skewed some perspectives of the people watching the PPV
To add to what you are saying, I don't think many people really credit Conor with any real knockdowns in those two rounds. Everyone knows that Diaz has a great ground game and a lot of people assume that Nate purposely fell back in hopes that Conor would follow him to the ground.
5:37 that shot towards True Geordie was cold af😂 the man has literally no knowledge of the sport outside Conor McGregor and the fighters Jake Paul "boxed"
Nah he knows a good amount of stuff, he’s watched the sport for a while. He just used to have some absolutely terrible opinions about Conor and would be horribly biased towards him. He’s calmed a bit recently tbf and his opinions aren’t as shite. Edit: the shot of his face was funny asf tho
@@jonero2534 Pretty sure Weili just got better. The two loses to Rose and training with Cejudo filled out her game. She wasn't even in a real MMA gym before working with Cejudo
Yea, santos definitely won that fight. It’s sad how fast ppl forget. That was 100% a robbery and if I remember correctly, the damage Valentina landed on santos was actually from a head butt. Edit: We haven’t seen Santos fight since, crazy how ppl just forgot about her. She should be fighting for the belt
One of the funniest moments in UFC history is Jon Jones getting a bad decision win over Dominick Reyes, promises him a rematch after the fight, and leaves the division
It was the right decision in hindsight seeing how Reyes lost the next two. I think jones would have beat him in a rematch but Reyes stock has fallen in the last 2 years
GSP vs Hendricks wasn't a robbery GSP won 3 & 5 Hendricks won 2 & 4 Round 1 was close If you think it was robbery you are either Dana butthurt that GSP retired, a GSP hater or someone who thinks just because Georges bruises easier he should of lost.
Forgot probably the biggest one. Max beating Volk in the 2nd fight. I thought it was pretty obvious Max won it and was pretty shocked to see Volk get his hand raised and I see it argued all the time.
Funny....but also....kinda true. Jones has a permanent scar on that toe, and had the fight continued any longer he could have actually lost the toe completely. Glad they didn't stop the fight because clearly Jones won the fight, but had they done so they would have been completely justified....medically speaking.
Before seeing this. My list: Jones vs Gustafson I, Jones vs Santos, Jones vs Reyes, Volkanovski vs Holloway II, Shogun vs Machida I, Condit vs Lawler, Izzy vs Whittaker II, Thompson vs Woodley I, GSP vs Hendricks, Nunes vs Shevchenko II
Yup! McGregor was saved by the bell in R3 and R5 and did a lot of running away from Nate while looking at the clock to see when they will open the cage and let him go home.
Man if I was a judge I would want two assistants. Each watching 1 fighter with a stop watch to keep track of who is moving forward the longest. That way when my own criteria and judgement is too close to call, I could go with who was going forward the most.
The 1st round of Frankie vs Gray 2 was about as clear of a 10-7 as I’ve ever seen. I chalked it up back then to the judges being scared to give a 10-7 in a title fight but I dunno. I still say it’s 10-7 but the 1st round of their third fight I say was a 10-8
With Amanda and Valentina, a lot of people think Valentina won because she was throwing and moving more, but a lot that she threw didn't even land. Amanda officially out struck her in 4 out of 5 rounds with more efficiency.
Wait, when saying at the beginning, “the subject of this video isn’t robberies” or something along those lines, was that Lee Murray on the screen? If so, I see what you did there. Robbery. Lol. Love you guys.
What about GSP vs Hendricks? It was razor thin and it's obvious how they looked who took more damage. If it's that razor thin I'd think damage would be a factor
Only need to look at round 1, where damage was not a factor for either fighter. In that round, GSP edged Hendricks in total sig strikes, sub attempts and successful take-downs. The other 4 rounds were a clear split. Close fight, but the right guy won.
Gray Maynard has beaten Frankie 3 straight times! Those title fights should have been stopped in the first. Frankie got BLASTED! The fact that you got people calling for a 10-7 means Frankie was a death's door for the 1st round of both title fights. Crazy how a non finish can throw a man's career off a cliff.
Gray Maynard had heavy hands, but his finishing instincts were so poor. He'd frequently rock and hurt his opponents, but he just couldn't get them out of there.
The biggest for me was Reyes and Jon Jones. Period. Most relevant... not just steals or debated scores. Also I'd throw in Yoel and Izzy. And Thiago Santos vs Jon Jones definitely
How about Valentina Shevchenko vs Taila Santos, Alexander Volkanovski vs Max Holloway 2, Kamaru Usman vs Colby Covington 2, Aljamain Sterling vs Petr Yan 2, Israel Adesanya vs Robert Whittaker 2, TJ Dillashaw vs Cory Sandhagen, Arman Tsarukyan vs Mateusz Gamrot, Josh Emmett vs Calvin Kattar, and Holly Holm vs Ketlen Vieira?
It was not a good fight, but the result had legacy defining consequences. That fight enabled Amanda to establish herself as the WMMA GOAT, and had she lost it would have created a butterfly effect in the division as either what she accomplished would either not have happened, or came much later. Meanwhile Valentina was pretty much forced down a weight-class to establish her own title run getting stuck in 2nd place to Amanda. Plus IMO given how arrogant Amanda is, only makes the result sting when it shouldn't.
The attempted bleep at 4:31 warranted a laugh. Great video!
definitely the best part!
Lmfao I lost it
😅🤣😂
Whoever edited that....deserves a fucking *beep* raise
Its obvious who won the first JJ/Weili fight. The fans. The fans won.
It would have been nice to have been called a draw. I could say that for a few of these fights.
Such a corny comment and idgaf!
Wrong!
The second one wasn't in question....
Johanna’s head literally grew three sizes that day, grinch style. Weili won and it’s not nearly as close as everyone makes it out to be.
4:31 worse use of a 'bleep' ever lol.
The closing line of the diaz Condit breakdown 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stockton, mfers! Stockton!
Pure fucking gold, I've seen those 3 sentiments countless times when talking about that fight.
Classic Tommy. Too bad he didn’t go full Nick Diaz mode on that.
@bonneemcgee448 You do know that part of the video was meant as satire but tbf you’re a diaz fanboy I wouldn’t expect you to know your face from your ass let alone know what satire means
Feel so bad for Condit. He was a beast and almost finished gsp. Great work as always
I feel bad for Nick diaz he got robbed against Condit
@@drunkenmmamaster419 the only reason I feel bad for Nick Diaz is that cannabis is a banned substance for some stupid ass reason. But he didn't beat Carlos.
@@hozz1014 He beat Carlos. Then to top off that he got banned for 5 years for smoking weed. The UFC screwed him over
@@hozz1014 yea it's pretty amazing that someone who works at Taco Bell can get high all they want, but a professional athlete can't.
Yeah, honestly after the video explained that GSP-Hendricks wasn't going to be in it, I figured "now way Condit-Lawler makes it then"...
Back when the fight happened, almost everyone thought Hendricks had beaten GSP, but now with cooler heads pretty much everyone agrees that the fight had more chance to be a draw than and win for Johnny.
On the other hand, from day one most people called BS on the Condit-Lawler decision, and if anything, even *more* people are calling BS right now.
I love Robbie Lawler and I'm not really a fan of Condit, I never was, but even I concede that Condit 100% won that fight.
Why not condit fan?
I liked WEC back in the day so most fighters from there like Carlos Condit, Chael Sonnen, Miguel Torres, Mike Swick, and Cub Swanson are easy to root for...but regardless I'd still say Condit won that fight.
If a fight ever felt like a true robbery while watching it was this fight for sure. Props to both men. Warriors the likes that the sport may never see again. Tough to see Robbie on the skid on his way to retirement.
Yup. It saddens me that Condit never got undisputed gold. He won that fight for sure
Dominick Reyes definitely beat Jon Jones 48-47 and arguably 49-46. The only thing in Jones favour is that he was pressuring, that's it and the rules don't value pressure if the damage isn't close.
No way Reyes won 4 rounds 🤦♂️
@@desertu1967 he easily won the 1st 3 at least tho
1. Reyes won 4 rounds
2. Forward pressure is far down the criterion of the Unified rules
Jones reyes was a robbery, don't know how it can be debated
Nope.
Facts. Thats not a close decision.
Was expecting Moreno losing the title to Fig but after seeing who made the list it makes sense why it didn’t make the cut. Huge Jones fan but in the last seconds of the Reyes fight my heart dropped thinking Jones just lost
It tends to irritate some Jones fans but I genuinely think he lost that Reyes fight. I did in the moment and I still do every time I watch it back.
@@paytonsmutz2079 agreed
There are Jones fans?
@@shikatsuwu yes sir right here. No so much the man but the athlete. Imo.
@@dereklingerfelt9557 Oh okay yeah in terms of skill in MMA I could see that I used to be a fan but the multiple antic's really made me give up as a person I can't see why anyone would like him
Wait so why is GSP vs Hendricks a “robbery” but Jones vs Reyes or Lawler vs NBK isn’t? GSP vs Hendricks was at least as close as those 2 fights in my opinion
GSP vs Hendricks is a much bigger robbery than Jones vs Reyes imo
@@aaronthegold Hendricks only won rounds 2 and 4. That's not even enough for a draw
@@aaronthegold rewatch the fight or watch the Weasles vid rescoring it. Gsp clearly won by 1-2 pts he just took a shitload of damage but he does in almost any fight where the opponent can actually touch him. Gsp probably gets a black eye when a strong wind hits his face.
@@jordan8199 ok hardcase
Gsp vs hendricks was a complete robbery. Youd have to be a complete gsp fanboy to feel different
Volkanovski vs Holloway 2, Usman vs Covington 2, Moreno vs Figueiredo 3, and Sterling vs Yan 2 were all recent title fights that were pretty close.
Usman clearly beat Colby in the 2nd fight
@@kauiki_7962 yea very clearly 3-2 Usman shouldn’t be an argument tbh
Volk Holloway 2 was also obviously volk, he won the first 3 rounds clearly
@@kauiki_7962 I agree, I think Usman won 3-2 but a lot of people think it should've been a draw with R2 10-8 Usman and then Covington winning the last 3 rounds. TheWeasle had a pretty good video breaking it down.
@@kauiki_7962 it’s a very easy 48-47
If you actually deducted points for all of Jon Jones's eye pokes, he'd never win a decision.
Glover would of been champ with the first 45-42 card
Facts
Rules are enforced very poorly across the board, and that's why he gets away with it. If they just deducted a few points from him and others more frequently, 10 years ago, the incidents would stop immediately
He'd owe points.
@@Dukeflyhawker jon Jones is the most least deserving champion in history. If it were WWE Jones would be "10 times" champion
5:33 love how you cut to a pick of true geordie 😂 its accurate af
Whats the context here?
@@tbug5737 true geordie basically knows nothing of the sport but acts like he does so he is often calling good decisions bad and bad decisions good and just making bad calls during fights, not understanding submissions/grappling/wrestling just generally trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about but coming across as a major "casual" its like he doesn't even try to follow or understand the sport though and is happy just getting views.. it started when he somehow ended up commentating that first UA-cam boxing thing and he seen anything boxing and MMA brought him views 🤷♂
Joanna threw less & landed more. That means Weili threw more & missed more. That’s undeniable. What’s debatable is whether Weili is the harder puncher, or whether Joanna just bruises easier?
If there was any 10-8 in Nate/Conor 2, it was the first round, not the third.
Bullet out struck Nunes everywhere except on leg kicks, including in Amanda’s own TDs. Bear in mind there’s no way Bullet could ever get big enough to fight effectively at 145, and no way Nunes could ever get small enough to fight effectively at 125, with Amanda having a 2.5” reach & >3” height advantage. She should have dominated everywhere but got a win off of ineffective leg kicks & unproductive TDs.
That was a robbery for sure. I would like to see the third fight at some point
Beautiful analysis bro. I thought JJ vs Weili 1 was a draw honestly. Weili has a hell of a chin. Agree on the Nate Connor as well.
Nunes vs Shevchenko 2 was a robbery and you are on point there. Shevchenko can make 115 but she doesn't want to destroy herself doing that. 135 is not much physical difference for her than 125. Whereas Nunes has a tough cut to 135 and couldn't make 125 if she shaved her head and amputated a foot
About Amanda x The Bullet, first leg strikes and body strikes do count, second apart form the two last rounds Amanda actually outstruck The Bullet everywhere on round 1 and only landed 2 less head strike son 2 and 3 while outstriking her on body and leg strikes. Third none of the strikes in that fight were actually heavy, they were all pretty light, head or otherwise. And lastly overall the fight was super low volume, which makes it very hard to score.
Also you gotta be a fanboy if the reason you scored that fight for Valentina is because she is smaller than Amanda therefore should somehow have a handicap ? That is one of the most stupid things I ever read in my life. The salt from both Valentina herself and her fans about that fight is legendary. I love ppl who do not understand the concept of a close fight and cry robbery.
Joanna bruises easier. I get a bruise out of anything, a hematoma out of a clean punch landed on my face. It sucks because the damage is superficial and you dont feel it at all and it doesnt really impact you unless its over the eye
@@AlphaQHard Nice one. These damage brahs really believe a fast, skilful striker who bruises easy should lose to a single punch that made a mark. Absolute donuts!
Condit v Lawler is a clear as day 1 3 4 to Condit on every rewatch. Still pains me to this day.
Yeah was a sad 1
Happy 5 years again legends
Love Carlos Condit , my all time favorite fighter , knew he’d have like 4 opportunities to be on this video
Condit vs Kampman...
Biggest one missing is Demetrious Johnson vs Henry Cejudo 2. Always thought DJ won I will die on this hill
Yea but the ufc wanted Mighty Mouse out of there. I thought he won too. It’s because for whatever reason, nobody really likes DJ
Comment on Condit vs Diaz:
My friend and i watched it at the same time. We are both fans of both fighters. We both scored it for condit because he was doing really great counter work in the pocket. Even though diaz was the one following condit around. It was close but it was condit.
I love when Tommy goes full Stockton mode, this and the fight camps top 10 were pure gold
man i miss Carlos Condit, one of the greats
The true Geordie shade 😂
I noticed that too, didn't know there was beef between the two channels
I mean people can argue all they want but putting Diaz-McGregor 2 top of this list is quite funny especially considering you can put forward a better argument for Conor winning the 5th round than Nate getting a 10-8 in the 3rd but then again that doesn’t discredit Conor’s win eh
Surprised that Holloway-Volk 2 wasn't here, people argued about it forever, regardless of what happened in the thirf fight.
Nope, 3-0
@ᛁᛊᛖᚷᚱᛁᛗ ᚹᛟᛚᚠ Why does that annoy you, thats often how trilogies play out
Tommy’s videos are the best on the channel imo
I miss his TTTHS videos too though, I wish he still made one more than once every 2 years
@@enterusernamehere7150 right man!!
The fact that one of the judges had a 49-46 for Jones is the shadiest scorecard I’ve ever seen, I’m convinced the judges bet on Jon and refused to let him lose, at least the other fights on here have reasonably close scorecards
Idk what everyone else was seeing but I had Ben Askren up 2-1 against Masvidal during their fight
I gave the first 3 seconds to Askern, but gave 4 and 5 (the championship seconds) to Jorge
You fool! Didn't you see Ben's form? 10-8 in the opening second no question!
Clear DQ loss for Askren making Masvidal tap with a head butt
Valentina definitely won the 2nd fight! It was super close though so can’t be mad at the decision.
Nunes officially landed more strikes and scored two takedowns in the last round - Nunes won, Val did nothing significant imo
Reasonable take tbh. Prob could've been scored a draw.
A little contradictory statement lol. If it was super close then there could be no "definite" winner.
@@amadeuschavez. Shevchenko was doing significantly more damage per strike on average, and Nunes did nothing with her takedowns
Agreed 100%
If round 3 of McGreggor Diaz 2 was a 10-8, round 1 was too
Conor was saved by the bell in R3 & R5 and he never stopped running away after mid way of the second round.
Been saying this for years. Nate got dropped how many times in the first two rounds?
Dominick Reyes was closer to beating Jon Jones closer than Gus ever was
Gustaffson got incredibly close to beating jones. Reyes beat jones
@@yoshiuki__9589 That's not official sir. Same thing with the Max fanboys with the second Volk fight.
@@allenmk138 theres arguments to be had in the Holloway volk fight. There is no argument here just pure correction
@@yoshiuki__9589 If there was no argument, then it would be considered a robbery. There's no way you can say that Jones didn't have an argument to win that fight. He was literally the only fighter moving forward, and everybody accepts that he won the last two rounds, so it all comes down to the first three rounds. Reyes definitely wasn't dominating in those rounds cause like I said, Jones had all pressure, and the strikes also show that he wasn't out landing Jones by a lot of strikes. If strikes are even, you give it to the guy that's consistently moving forward.
@@allenmk138 Firstly if you read the scoring critetia of MMA damage and effective striking are both ranked higher than control, Therefore any judge that isnt corrupt or incompetent would Clearly see the fight for reyes.
The second mma on point uploads I watch tht jus the way it is
I think people score McGregor Diaz 2 in Nate’s favor is actually because of the second round; at the end of the round Diaz landed a pretty good flurry on McGregor and had him backed up to the cage, and then on the live broadcast you had Goldberg declare that the fight was now 1-1. I think a lot of fans tend to forget the 2 knockdowns by McGregor in the first half of the round and instead remember the round for how it ended, and Goldberg saying what he did I think shows that and also probably skewed some perspectives of the people watching the PPV
The people who say Nate won just hate Conor lmao
To add to what you are saying, I don't think many people really credit Conor with any real knockdowns in those two rounds. Everyone knows that Diaz has a great ground game and a lot of people assume that Nate purposely fell back in hopes that Conor would follow him to the ground.
@@stephenasmith273 Conor didn’t win. He didn’t knock him out and Conor only counts knockouts.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 that’s just a meme lmfao
@@stephenasmith273 Conor said it earnestly to defend his losses to Khabib and Nate by claiming they don’t count.
7:45 Nailed it 😆🤣
Sorry but GSP vs Hendricks was not a robbery. GSP won 3-2
Wtf did you watch. Hendricks won almost every round.
@@The-fs5wn lol no he didn't. Unless by every round you man 2 of em.
@@The-fs5wn WTF did u watch, not a big MMA fan i take it
I got hyped when you said Diaz won 🤣🤣🤣
5:37 that shot towards True Geordie was cold af😂 the man has literally no knowledge of the sport outside Conor McGregor and the fighters Jake Paul "boxed"
Nah he knows a good amount of stuff, he’s watched the sport for a while. He just used to have some absolutely terrible opinions about Conor and would be horribly biased towards him. He’s calmed a bit recently tbf and his opinions aren’t as shite.
Edit: the shot of his face was funny asf tho
@@bredelisp4908 Let's agree to disagree. He talks some absolute shite. He should just stick Football.
Good thing Weili and Joanna had a rematch to settle who actually was the better fighter.
That was one-foot-out-the-door Joanna though
That was one-foot-out-the-door Joanna though
@@jonero2534 shouldn't have had the other foot in the cage then if that's the excuse.
@@jonero2534 Pretty sure Weili just got better. The two loses to Rose and training with Cejudo filled out her game. She wasn't even in a real MMA gym before working with Cejudo
It should have happened after Weili first lost to Rose though.
I was really expecting them to include Valentina's fight against Santos. There was a lot of debate after that one.
Yea, santos definitely won that fight. It’s sad how fast ppl forget. That was 100% a robbery and if I remember correctly, the damage Valentina landed on santos was actually from a head butt.
Edit: We haven’t seen Santos fight since, crazy how ppl just forgot about her. She should be fighting for the belt
This should be renamed "Most robberies by corrupt judges"
"Both men might have scored them in the first two rounds respectively" I've been seeing this a lot lately. What do people think respectively means.
One of the funniest moments in UFC history is Jon Jones getting a bad decision win over Dominick Reyes, promises him a rematch after the fight, and leaves the division
It was the right decision in hindsight seeing how Reyes lost the next two. I think jones would have beat him in a rematch but Reyes stock has fallen in the last 2 years
Go watch how Jones performs in rematches. Reyes best chance was only going to be that night.
@@johnbutler7567 If you wanna look at it like that, Jones hasnt fought since then. Reyes would have atleast defended the belt
GSP vs Hendricks wasn't a robbery
GSP won 3 & 5
Hendricks won 2 & 4
Round 1 was close
If you think it was robbery you are either Dana butthurt that GSP retired, a GSP hater or someone who thinks just because Georges bruises easier he should of lost.
The bruises on GSPs face have too much of an effect on people's opinions, imo.
For the Diaz and Conor fight they should have deducted points on Conor for turning his back and running away 😏
But diaz didn’t follow up when he could of so it wouldn’t count for much for either of them
Forgot probably the biggest one. Max beating Volk in the 2nd fight. I thought it was pretty obvious Max won it and was pretty shocked to see Volk get his hand raised and I see it argued all the time.
Wasn’t a close call in the third though. Volk wiped out any doubt in the third fight.
@@The-fs5wn What does that have to do with the second?
@@henryrichardson4274 its the present
@StillBrokeOff they’re not talking about the present, they’re saying *what should be on the list this video is about*
@@TheMuffinManIsHappy Somebody gets it
Chael vs Jones should’ve been stopped Jones toe will never be the same.
Funny....but also....kinda true. Jones has a permanent scar on that toe, and had the fight continued any longer he could have actually lost the toe completely. Glad they didn't stop the fight because clearly Jones won the fight, but had they done so they would have been completely justified....medically speaking.
4:04 Great punch shot...oh I mean Kick LOL
Carlos Condit was a badass fighter with a very entertaining fighting style.
Deserved to be WW champ for sure.
Literally why we wanted Tony and Jorge as champion. Now they going down the same roads.
@@Twatman_21 Tony deserved to be champion, Jorge did not.
Now that would be interesting if judges were required to give reasoning for their scores at the end of each fight.
Good examples! I was left expecting to see GSP vs Hendricks, Machida vs Shogun 1 and Sterling vs Yan 2…
My biggest issue with Reyes/Jones is the 49-46 scorecard.
It's one of the worst scorecards ever.
Lol conor vs Diaz 2 ain’t controversial at all
Conor clearly won
Carlos Condit will forever be the uncrowned UFC Welterweight Champion.
Hahaha this list should be way longer!
GSP won. Clearly too.
Yep and its just so annoying to hear MMA On Point say it was a robbery and most fans agree, um, no they don't and no it wasn't.
Yep. Georges 1,3,5
@@pt29999then don’t watch mma on point, simple, who you thought won is totally your opinion
This is why we need more draws
Sit down with my food, this pops up, day is made
Before seeing this. My list: Jones vs Gustafson I, Jones vs Santos, Jones vs Reyes, Volkanovski vs Holloway II, Shogun vs Machida I, Condit vs Lawler, Izzy vs Whittaker II, Thompson vs Woodley I, GSP vs Hendricks, Nunes vs Shevchenko II
It is rather wild how at a second look a fight can appear much different than the live version. As if the collective has an impact in the moment…
Yup! McGregor was saved by the bell in R3 and R5 and did a lot of running away from Nate while looking at the clock to see when they will open the cage and let him go home.
Daily dose of casual comments, thank you.
Man if I was a judge I would want two assistants. Each watching 1 fighter with a stop watch to keep track of who is moving forward the longest. That way when my own criteria and judgement is too close to call, I could go with who was going forward the most.
just seeing images of conor nate 2 gives me goosebumps
The 1st round of Frankie vs Gray 2 was about as clear of a 10-7 as I’ve ever seen. I chalked it up back then to the judges being scared to give a 10-7 in a title fight but I dunno. I still say it’s 10-7 but the 1st round of their third fight I say was a 10-8
Unpopular opinion: I think Lawler vs Condit was a better fight than Lawler vs Rory II. Both of them are all time great fights regardless.
Condit vs Lawler should definitely be on here.
7:43 is pure gold.
With Amanda and Valentina, a lot of people think Valentina won because she was throwing and moving more, but a lot that she threw didn't even land. Amanda officially out struck her in 4 out of 5 rounds with more efficiency.
If you’re ever wondering who will win a close decision, you can rest assured it will be the more marketable fighter.
Definitely thought Machida Shogun 1 would be on here.
great video was surprised to not see volk vs holloway 2 on here
" what does the word effective even mean "
😂😂
Henderson vs Melendez
Wait, when saying at the beginning, “the subject of this video isn’t robberies” or something along those lines, was that Lee Murray on the screen? If so, I see what you did there. Robbery. Lol. Love you guys.
Hey. @MMA On Point. You normally have good videos. This is a great one. Well done 👍
What about GSP vs Hendricks? It was razor thin and it's obvious how they looked who took more damage. If it's that razor thin I'd think damage would be a factor
Only need to look at round 1, where damage was not a factor for either fighter. In that round, GSP edged Hendricks in total sig strikes, sub attempts and successful take-downs. The other 4 rounds were a clear split. Close fight, but the right guy won.
Johanna Jedrzejczyk looking like Eric Stoltz in the movie "The Mask"
How is nobody talking about them showing Lee Murray when they mentioned robberies
Love the true Geordie dig
Gray Maynard has beaten Frankie 3 straight times! Those title fights should have been stopped in the first. Frankie got BLASTED! The fact that you got people calling for a 10-7 means Frankie was a death's door for the 1st round of both title fights.
Crazy how a non finish can throw a man's career off a cliff.
Gray Maynard had heavy hands, but his finishing instincts were so poor. He'd frequently rock and hurt his opponents, but he just couldn't get them out of there.
LMAO at the true geordie roast 😂
Champ should always get "lackluster" rounds...he's got the belt, he doesn't need to prove and fight for it...the challenger does.
Yeah Tommy
Johnny Hendricks vs GSP is the perfect example of how people used to think that "to be the champ, you have to beat the champ" was a real thing
I miss Carlos. He was so fun to watch
I wish this channel could show highlights. It would make the videos so much better
At 5:37 was that a poke at True Geordie 😅...he sometimes says things he does not know about
Yeah, what happened to the autopsy? I miss that shit!
7:40 was freaking hilarious! 😅🤣😂
The biggest for me was Reyes and Jon Jones. Period. Most relevant... not just steals or debated scores.
Also I'd throw in Yoel and Izzy. And Thiago Santos vs Jon Jones definitely
How about Valentina Shevchenko vs Taila Santos, Alexander Volkanovski vs Max Holloway 2, Kamaru Usman vs Colby Covington 2, Aljamain Sterling vs Petr Yan 2, Israel Adesanya vs Robert Whittaker 2, TJ Dillashaw vs Cory Sandhagen, Arman Tsarukyan vs Mateusz Gamrot, Josh Emmett vs Calvin Kattar, and Holly Holm vs Ketlen Vieira?
“Newly reptilian DILLASHAW “😭😭😭😭
I’m surprised Colby vs usman 2 wasn’t on here
I'll never understand arguing over a terrible fight, which is what Valentina vs Nunes 2 was.
True. It’s like arguing Derrick Lewis vs Francis Ngannou or Israel Adesanya vs Yoel Romero. I just wanna forget those terrible fights forever
It was not a good fight, but the result had legacy defining consequences. That fight enabled Amanda to establish herself as the WMMA GOAT, and had she lost it would have created a butterfly effect in the division as either what she accomplished would either not have happened, or came much later. Meanwhile Valentina was pretty much forced down a weight-class to establish her own title run getting stuck in 2nd place to Amanda.
Plus IMO given how arrogant Amanda is, only makes the result sting when it shouldn't.
Condit will forever be the real welterweight champion
I would have thought Joanna growing a 2nd head would be a fair indicator on who won that bout.
I hope to the mma gods we get to see Cruz vs TJ 2
I still disagree with you all about GSP/Hendrix, and it makes me happy every time I see one of you cry about it.
DJ-Cejudo II should be included here. I had Mighty Mouse winning, and I will die on that f**king hill!
The bleep at 4:32 was more effective than cejudos wrestling in the 5th. 48-47 DJ all day
I’m surprised figurado v Moreno 3 wasn’t on the list
Was Bisping vs Hamill on a different type of video? I feel it belongs here.
4:30 What was with that half-assed attempt at a censor bleep?
Lmfao fr.
This is exactly why we need a Conor-Diaz trilogy. Only Diaz high ass destroyed by weed brain cannot comprehend it