Why 99% is NOT Enough - Marble Machine X Accuracy test

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 4,1 тис.

  • @zanewright9686
    @zanewright9686 3 роки тому +3101

    It’s always like 12 months of radio silence, then I get recommended another one of this guys’ videos. Not complaining, this is sick

    • @natesmith9185
      @natesmith9185 3 роки тому +11

      UA-cam and Google are watching you.

    • @ScrapFatherScrapSon
      @ScrapFatherScrapSon 3 роки тому +3

      I recommend the subs robe button and click the notifications to all😅

    • @deadontime2601
      @deadontime2601 3 роки тому +3

      I have been waiting for a bit so I could have something to binge watch bh

    • @zolliedennis7408
      @zolliedennis7408 3 роки тому

      LMFAO FR

    • @kevinwelsh7490
      @kevinwelsh7490 3 роки тому +3

      WOW, look how efficiently it produces nothing of value - something I have dedicated my life to.

  • @DeSinc
    @DeSinc 3 роки тому +6141

    those moving parts made me nervous compared to the previous solid state design but seeing it operate that flawlessly has completely floored me. (lucky I'm not a marble)

    • @Scrogan
      @Scrogan 3 роки тому +95

      Yeah, only thing I’m worried about is if the rockers could be made quieter, and how much they’ll wear.
      Your stream last night was great btw.

    • @joshcronshaw1489
      @joshcronshaw1489 3 роки тому +16

      Hi desinc I’m glad you liked my gamer village monument thing lol

    • @Thekickinyourface
      @Thekickinyourface 3 роки тому +21

      DeSinc, you're everywhere

    • @joshc7154
      @joshc7154 3 роки тому +17

      Oh hey it's Asmongloid again. You have great taste

    • @henrysokol3466
      @henrysokol3466 3 роки тому +8

      Solid state? The original was transistor-based?

  • @539Dreade
    @539Dreade 3 роки тому +24

    Recommended by UA-cam, without a reason.
    Watched the entire 11:07 minutes, without a reason.
    It made me happy, without a reason.

  • @cptjfk
    @cptjfk 2 роки тому +184

    The most beautiful thing in this video was: The secret to engineering is not to over-engineer. I love it. That will definitively go into our trainee handbook. (And why 99% is not enough, of course.)

    • @pawpawstew
      @pawpawstew 2 роки тому +15

      Yes, but perfection can be the enemy of good enough. When is the last time you heard the marble machine make music? He's obsessing over 100%, but what was the objective? Sometimes you can get so lost in the minutae of perfection, you lose sight of the beauty you were trying to create in the first place.

    • @DG-mk7kd
      @DG-mk7kd 2 роки тому +5

      anyone can make a bridge that stands up
      an engineer can make a bridge that barely stands up

    • @patdbus1483
      @patdbus1483 Рік тому

      @@pawpawstew i so want to see this beatifull machine play something, but 99% isnt enough for martin so he quits, but for probably most of us 99% is far better then expected, if he loses 0.5% marbles it doesnt really matter to the listener, he only has to have a hand full on him so every time they get low he can refill them. we all loved the first one, yet we can understand that its nowhere near good enough to go on tour, yet this one got in my opinion close enough since in normal music you also have a chance to brake a string, bow, or clog a pipe. so noone expected 100%.

    • @PhantomWorksStudios
      @PhantomWorksStudios Рік тому +1

      @@patdbus1483 really sad we are never going to see or hear this in action 😢

  • @ulfdis2551
    @ulfdis2551 3 роки тому +1101

    Weird to think that this is probably the most well-documented invention of a musical instrument in history (and probably will be for quite a while).

    • @billkeithchannel
      @billkeithchannel 3 роки тому +27

      Imagine if the creation process of the 3 violin machine or one of the others was documented.

    • @coder0xff
      @coder0xff 3 роки тому +105

      That's why I'm confident it will end up in a museum. It's not only a feat of musicianship and engineering. It's a feat of the information era and crowdsourcing - the first of its kind.

    • @antiseth3964
      @antiseth3964 3 роки тому +48

      @@coder0xff I find it to be the most fascinating aspect of this whole project. What was originally a singular effort by Martin has evolved into an entire online community pouring out their collective resources and expertise to help one man design one of the most intricate instruments ever made.

    • @leonarperro
      @leonarperro 3 роки тому +5

      This machine is museum worthy

    • @chrissibersky4617
      @chrissibersky4617 3 роки тому +11

      Weird that 5 years of this, and still people think the original machine was a working thing and not just a prop for a music video.

  • @no_mnom
    @no_mnom 3 роки тому +826

    I was at first :
    "Wait Martin the start of the new design seems too slow"
    Then Martin was:
    'it's not a bug it's a feature "

    • @brooxeyyy
      @brooxeyyy 3 роки тому +31

      A surprise tool that will help us later

    • @harborwolf22
      @harborwolf22 3 роки тому +38

      All those little tricks he's picked up through working with everyone on the discord and all the trial and error he's done himself... It's so amazing to watch him go through such an amazing process.

    • @qristoff
      @qristoff 3 роки тому

      Every time

    • @zendesigner
      @zendesigner 3 роки тому +1

      @@harborwolf22 the process of reiterating content at a minimum of 10k dollars a month you mean :-)

    • @tomikuusla925
      @tomikuusla925 3 роки тому

      @@harborwolf22 Well said.

  • @arkadiy166
    @arkadiy166 3 роки тому +123

    9:00 Got to thread lock those screws, maybe all the screws, or it falls apart from bumps and vibrations those marble causes. Pretty cool!

    • @ValkyRiver
      @ValkyRiver Рік тому +2

      Makes me want to play with some shiny beautiful metallic marbles

    • @pretzelboi64
      @pretzelboi64 Рік тому +7

      It looks like a way to absorb energy from the marbles. It's probably done on purpose

  • @joshcee3362
    @joshcee3362 Рік тому +38

    I got a stupid smile on my face to see the new 4-lane splitter working perfectly!

  • @thevexengineer
    @thevexengineer 3 роки тому +4254

    it's been like 6 years since this guy became famous and I still can't figure out whether he's an engineer or a musician

  • @chifii
    @chifii 3 роки тому +850

    I like how his log he's using to represent level 4 is actually the least engineered piece of wood on that table.

    • @reinoutspanjers8562
      @reinoutspanjers8562 3 роки тому +97

      Best process, is no process ;)

    • @kevinghifari2330
      @kevinghifari2330 3 роки тому +68

      "nature provide the best solution"
      that's where biomimic plays role in innovation

    • @robertholtz
      @robertholtz 3 роки тому +51

      Engineered by nature. “Nature is the source of all true knowledge. She has her own logic, her own laws, she has no effect without cause nor invention without necessity. ”
      - Leonardo da Vinci

    • @reggiep75
      @reggiep75 3 роки тому +12

      You can NEVER beat nature... Nature is the Daddy of All

    • @reggiep75
      @reggiep75 3 роки тому +6

      @@damiengates7581 - I don't do sky fairies... so sorry!

  • @blacklistnr1
    @blacklistnr1 Рік тому +75

    It would be also very interesting to talk about how the first design has no moving parts as opposed to the second and what their long cycle failure looks like: does the wood get eroded by the impacts? do flip flops grind themselves out making dust, or digging deeper into the wood? etc. Great video!

    • @flyman451
      @flyman451 Рік тому

      I think he would get far more part longevity if the dividers and races were made of hardened steel.

    • @WillBelden
      @WillBelden Рік тому +5

      @@flyman451 But this is a VERY good way to prototype, cheaply, before the increased cost of CNC'ing metal works.

  • @RDrumcajsek
    @RDrumcajsek 2 роки тому +10

    The marble divider is so simple, yet so brilliant! It reminds me of kids "board game" called "Gravitrax", where you build tracks for marbles. There is one part there serving as a divider (by 2), in a shape of a moving "arrow" (like a train track spike) that switches sides of a track after every marble, opening one route and closing another. So simple, yet so brilliant!!

    • @RDrumcajsek
      @RDrumcajsek 2 роки тому

      Level 4 of that marble divider could be in the shape of the divider channels, so they won't hit the opposite wall while being divided, instead make a "V" shaped wall, so they travel smoother :)

  • @samchen9951
    @samchen9951 3 роки тому +1719

    6:11 "It is good not to have overengineering" *literally builds a marble machine to play music*

    • @badbeanztriplezoneproducti3794
      @badbeanztriplezoneproducti3794 3 роки тому +13

      For real

    • @guiorgy
      @guiorgy 3 роки тому +21

      Good practices are recommendations, you don't have to follow them, even if you yourself said it xd

    • @rwxstudio7173
      @rwxstudio7173 3 роки тому +18

      If you look at each part he has made, he has tried to build everything as simple as possible. You never know if something might fail. Easier to fabricate a new part if the design isn't overly complicated.

    • @davidlopes27
      @davidlopes27 3 роки тому +5

      You do understand that most instruments, even though they seem simple, are way more complicated and delicate than a machine he built out of plywood in his garage? Like, his example was perfect, using a midi keyboard, if you think about it, a keyboard is overcomplicated as f lol

    • @firstnamelastname8790
      @firstnamelastname8790 3 роки тому +1

      2:22 Nope, it still was dividing equally lol it just appeared so as 1 and 2 *STAYED* full

  • @demzt.7677
    @demzt.7677 3 роки тому +678

    He said..."Good engineering is also not about over engineering." What a great point there.

    • @bradwillard8009
      @bradwillard8009 3 роки тому +12

      the most german statement ever

    • @mviz2299
      @mviz2299 3 роки тому +3

      Why is the divider tilted? Isn't gravity causing this problem?

    • @isilder
      @isilder 3 роки тому +3

      @@mviz2299 yes the original design relied in oerfect6 balance, but it would always favour one direction, due to the corner and momentum.. or wavelength issues

    • @isilder
      @isilder 3 роки тому +1

      How to overengineer it ? Maybe a gate with computer control ??

    • @carsonwilliams
      @carsonwilliams 3 роки тому +2

      As Elon Musk says it's less impressive of what an engineer can make and more impressive of what an engineer can delete.

  • @wakka0222
    @wakka0222 2 роки тому +343

    This man has sunk an amazing number of hours into optimizing a machine to efficiently do absolutely nothing at all.
    I am amazed.

    • @themastermoo
      @themastermoo Рік тому +11

      It really reminds me of the time spent on factorio, but way more satisfying to watch.

    • @martynridley3671
      @martynridley3671 Рік тому +25

      Nothing? Keep watching more of his vids and you'll realise that it's far from it!

    • @delcim
      @delcim Рік тому

      @@themastermoo dont tell me

    • @RA-el6zj
      @RA-el6zj Рік тому +4

      That's kind of like saying fitness is useless because your just lifting weights to put them back in the same place again.

    • @mlb6d9
      @mlb6d9 Рік тому

      I think he has lost his marbles

  • @Commodore4life
    @Commodore4life 3 роки тому +43

    No one:
    UA-cam: Remember how good Marble Machine was? Here's a LOT of details.

  • @cavemaneca
    @cavemaneca 3 роки тому +394

    Watching that "Stress Test" was extremely satisfying.

    • @alpha_ray_burst
      @alpha_ray_burst 3 роки тому +5

      Hahahahaha, yeah can I have more "stress" please? It's very relaxing.

    • @y2clay14
      @y2clay14 3 роки тому +3

      And a little stressful. As soon as the large queue was through I did a big exhale lol

    • @Snuppgard
      @Snuppgard 3 роки тому

      But just before the queue reached the fish stairs in the back, Mr Marble saw the upcomming problem and helped speed up the marbles with a little push... Is that allowed, when stress testing? I felt kinda cheated.

  • @ibrahimmahrir
    @ibrahimmahrir 3 роки тому +298

    "it's hurting not only my pride and my heart, it's also hurting my head" 🤣

  • @N4RCissus
    @N4RCissus Рік тому +3

    This dude is almost a cautionary tale. He's obviously a genius. But can't settle for anything less than perfect. Made an amazing video with original marble machine but has been slaving for years for perfection that is impossible to reach. A Tesla like character.

  • @davidkrull
    @davidkrull 2 роки тому +15

    The first part of the "stage 2" divider did a good job of alternating directions when the marbles were all queued up, but when that first part emptied of marbles, the next marble down preferentially landed on one side, even if the last marble through also went down that side. This caused the divider to bias toward channels 1 & 2.

  • @Timberwolf69
    @Timberwolf69 3 роки тому +234

    I think the old divider was quite sensitive to being level. If it isn't perfectly level from side to side, it will over time show a slight preference for the lower side.

    • @mduckernz
      @mduckernz 3 роки тому +59

      Indeed. It was also very sensitive to its internal geometry so any machining errors will come out as a channel preference, likewise with erosion over its lifespan (which are both very real considerations in a passive sorting mechanism like this that relies on principles of balanced gravity and friction!)

    • @gavinkemp7920
      @gavinkemp7920 3 роки тому +6

      it also be sensitive de vibrations

    • @smeghead666
      @smeghead666 3 роки тому +1

      I concur with all of the above

    • @reggiep75
      @reggiep75 3 роки тому +5

      I thought this too. The old divider would still work well but it would need to be perfectly horizontal in the 'exit plane' and only slope from the single entry point towards the 4 exits to ensure all forces on the marbles were more equal than previously. I still think that the V2 version of the divider is still the strongest and viable option as there are less pieces so less points of failure. An option to manually add marbles would fix any flaws if needed but I suspect a slope on a single angle would fix it's flaws and remove marble preference to the lower lanes.

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 3 роки тому +3

      I was thinking "he's building in a mole and it's going to pop up whenever the floor isn't perfectly level." Glad to see he decided to go to a mechanical splitter.

  • @_Matsimus_
    @_Matsimus_ 3 роки тому +2405

    This mans need for perfection and engineering excellence literally brings a smile to my face every time I watch his videos.

    • @noahproulx2050
      @noahproulx2050 3 роки тому +10

      A wild matsimus appeared. Love your channel man

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 3 роки тому +2

      I'm gonna go back and watch the series again when it's done.
      Or at least the more relevant update videos. It's a lot.

    • @bluesap7318
      @bluesap7318 3 роки тому +1

      @@noahproulx2050 I was honestly surprised when I saw his comment

    • @KydLives
      @KydLives 3 роки тому

      True

    • @krazypanda3386
      @krazypanda3386 3 роки тому

      @@bluesap7318 I've seen him comment around a few times it's like there's a famous person who likes the same things i do,kinda crazy

  • @TH33PICCOOKI3
    @TH33PICCOOKI3 3 роки тому

    This video was recommended to me about a week ago and I have now gone back and watched every episode of the marble machine x playlist.
    Consider me a new but dedicated fan. I've loved the entire journey.

  • @RS54321
    @RS54321 2 роки тому +1

    It's so calming watching/listening to those marbles. Your revision of the flip-flop thing was great!

  • @SievertSchreiber
    @SievertSchreiber 3 роки тому +1312

    Martin is becoming a teacher instead of being a student! Progress had been achieved 👍
    Edit: Thanks for over 1k likes, I 💕 this community!

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 3 роки тому +32

      It's like watching the musical equivalent of Elon Musk. Due to necessity, suddenly an engineer is born.
      This isn't the end, this isn't even the beginning of the end, this is the end of the beginning.

    • @kapone2k
      @kapone2k 3 роки тому +4

      me and many more kept nagging on Martin to watch more "clock mechanics" videos.. show's that he rly get's more in to mechanical engineering now than music x'D

    • @alakani
      @alakani 3 роки тому +12

      @@jtjames79 Well, minus the sociopathy, thankfully

    • @rikkitje
      @rikkitje 3 роки тому +4

      Well to be fair, Martin is the only real MMX teacher out there🤷🏼‍♂️

    •  3 роки тому +3

      When will he learn to finish what he started?

  • @buddyclem7328
    @buddyclem7328 3 роки тому +135

    9:00 Loose bolts! It even works when it's loose. Great new design! It's very similar to the classic Wintergatan Marble Machine's marble gates.

    • @HVM_fi
      @HVM_fi 3 роки тому +3

      Those loose bolts are like sliding marks made by SN15 landing legs; all most inconsequential but will be fixed for next time.

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta 3 роки тому +5

      Sometimes things need to be loose for reliability. It might look dodgy, but sometimes it makes that last bit of difference between a reliable machine and a paperweight

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 3 роки тому +6

      @@233kosta Yeah I think they are loose on purpose, because the marbles might bounce off the stopper in undesirable ways if it was stiff.

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta 3 роки тому +9

      @@wombat4191 Bit of damping never hurt anyone, but this isn't an ideal solution - it'll wear and generate dust. Better off with a proper soft-ish damping material instead.

    • @Darkassassin09
      @Darkassassin09 3 роки тому +7

      @@wombat4191 with the washers and difference in height between the two bolts, I think it was just an assembly oversight.

  • @stokkie01
    @stokkie01 3 роки тому +1

    This video brought me back to the Marble Machine and got me hooked on the entire channel. Just visiting this video back after seeing the previous video's of the devide by 4. Really awesome project

  • @sliceofsparta8985
    @sliceofsparta8985 2 роки тому +2

    You are the absolute best version of a perfectionist. You demand it, but you also have the drive and skills to make it happen, while recognizing when you're getting diminishing returns.
    Man, you could get a job as an engineer ANYWHERE, but I can definitely also see you as a college professor. You know, once the Marble Machine World Tour wraps up :)

  • @patrickobaldo883
    @patrickobaldo883 3 роки тому +627

    This is a significantly more elegant solution than the first one. Instead of relying on residual marbles to determine the next marble's position, a separate passive flipflop works much better. You basically made a very simple computer with just that single component!

    • @wangxuanliehnqav
      @wangxuanliehnqav 3 роки тому +57

      Agreed, its essentially a system with binary memory instead of analog memory (the exact position of the marbles) which determines the output of the flow divider, and since each divider only has two states its easy to troubleshoot and implement now.

    • @echoe09
      @echoe09 3 роки тому +21

      Thats what i thought. A manual logic gate haha

    • @mythosinfinite6736
      @mythosinfinite6736 3 роки тому +7

      It also doesn't need to be as level either, since there isn't a way for marbles to favour a path on any incline; the gates guide things to exactly where they need to go.

    • @pow3rstrik3
      @pow3rstrik3 3 роки тому +23

      Now I'm just waiting to see a turing complete marble machine

    • @evilparadigm
      @evilparadigm 3 роки тому +3

      @@pow3rstrik3 We will be doomed! Doomed I tell you!

  • @AC3handle
    @AC3handle 3 роки тому +671

    "Dis is perfect"
    several weeks later:
    "it's not perfect ENOUGH!"

    • @slingshot99
      @slingshot99 3 роки тому +6

      Unmistakeably German :D

    • @tomasoverstrom2691
      @tomasoverstrom2691 3 роки тому +4

      @@slingshot99 he ain't German though

    • @tomasoverstrom2691
      @tomasoverstrom2691 3 роки тому +2

      @Homunculus Yes he is

    • @firstnamelastname8790
      @firstnamelastname8790 3 роки тому

      2:22 Nope, it still was dividing equally lol it just appeared so as 1 and 2 *STAYED* full

    • @noahjones9833
      @noahjones9833 3 роки тому

      @@firstnamelastname8790 i think it mightve actually been slightly off bit even if it were perfect, there was still the issue of clogging resulting in catastrophic failure in only 13 minutes, barely enough time for about 2 medium sized songs or 1 longer song. The new design not only matched the incoming flow but was able to process marbles fast enough that it'll likely never clog again there.

  • @TheMrMayo
    @TheMrMayo 3 роки тому +2

    It’s moments of ingenuity, designing and musical talent that remind me why Wintergatan is always worth catching!
    With this, it’s never “when is the next video or song”, but rather “what new creativity has he cooked up today?”
    Someday, I’ll be able to help support, but until then, I’ll wait on the sidelines ready for the next. :D

  • @crustycobs2669
    @crustycobs2669 2 роки тому

    Analog genius, and hard work. Super fun to watch the synchronicity and flow. Great design

  • @Twinboy1995
    @Twinboy1995 3 роки тому +719

    I have no idea what is going on here or why it was recommended to me, but this was super calming.

    • @PhiltheMoko
      @PhiltheMoko 3 роки тому +13

      If you haven't already you gotta watch one of his videos where he is actually using it to make music.

    • @BeetaroniPizza
      @BeetaroniPizza 3 роки тому +1

      May e 1yrs ago u watched his music video. 😂🤔

    • @foxgaming76yt24
      @foxgaming76yt24 3 роки тому

      This is basically a newer version of the marble machine

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 3 роки тому

      He's building a new, better marble-actuated "music box." Here's his first one in full operation:
      ua-cam.com/video/IvUU8joBb1Q/v-deo.html

    • @foxgaming76yt24
      @foxgaming76yt24 3 роки тому

      @@joesterling4299 you mean marble machine X?

  • @LOVEMUFFIN_official
    @LOVEMUFFIN_official 3 роки тому +152

    The moment that you realize that the MMX is harmonic at x32 playback and the fish stair appears to be functioning at normal speed.

    • @davemarin7340
      @davemarin7340 3 роки тому +2

      Thats creepy!

    • @merlijnbakker8797
      @merlijnbakker8797 3 роки тому +2

      How does that happen?

    • @nates9536
      @nates9536 3 роки тому +12

      @@merlijnbakker8797 shutter speed of the camera is matching the movement speed of the machine.
      Look up "Helicopter rotor matches shutter speed" for a really good look at the effect

    • @LOVEMUFFIN_official
      @LOVEMUFFIN_official 3 роки тому +19

      @@merlijnbakker8797 Manual fast forward (think old movie projectors) works by increasing the rate at which frames (still photos that comprise a movie picture) move through the observer’s view. In the digital world, data compression is only so good, so it starts to cut out frames to create the illusion of increased speed. If you cut out the right frames in the right order, you can create all sorts of wacky visuals.
      Think of the fish stair as a series of movements on camera. At the bottom of the cycle, the fish stair picks up a marble [an action we will represent with this circle icon ⏺]. Then it lifts up the marble to the next step [this one will be represented by an upward arrow 🔼]. After the fish stair reaches the top, it deposits the marble in the next step [to be represented by this square ⏹], and then goes back down [the obvious choice here is the down arrow 🔽] to begin all over again. In symbolic form the whole process looks like this:
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      If we string multiple cycles together, we can get long repetitive chains:
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽
      (Five full cycles)
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      Now, let’s say that we’re filming the fish stair with a camera that takes one frame every time that we would use a new symbol. If we were playing that video back at regular speed, we would just see the same thing we observed in real life:
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽⏺🔼⏹🔽
      (Still five full cycles)
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      If we wanted to fast forward this video, we have to start cutting/compressing frames. Let’s say that we want to run this again at x2 speed. That means cutting out every other frame so that we can get the same length of video into half the time. With our pretend camera it would look like this:
      ⏺⏹⏺⏹⏺⏹⏺⏹⏺⏹
      (Two frames from each cycle remain, two have been cut [✂️])
      ⏺✂️⏹✂️
      ⏺✂️⏹✂️
      ⏺✂️⏹✂️
      ⏺✂️⏹✂️
      ⏺✂️⏹✂️
      See how we lost all of the frames showing up and down motion of the fish stair? In your brain, that would make it look like the machine was running twice as fast (or like really bad stop-motion animation) because your brain fills in the gaps between the frames with what it imagines is happening, just like any video. But, things start to get trippy if we want to run our special video at x5 speed specifically. We would have to cut out four of every five frames, which leaves us with the following:
      ⏺🔼⏹🔽
      (The reason it looks like this is because we are getting a different frame from each cycle and stitching them together in the right order)
      ⏺✂️✂️✂️
      ✂️🔼✂️✂️
      ✂️✂️⏹✂️
      ✂️✂️✂️🔽
      ✂️✂️✂️✂️
      In this particular instance, even though the rest of the objects in the frame would appear to be moving five times faster than usual, the fish stair would appear to be operating at normal speed. This is what was happening with the real fish stair at x32 speed in Martin’s video. The playback was lining up just right so that the selected frames were showing the fish stair as though normal, while everything else was still being shown at great speed.
      Sorry for the long-winded explanation: I hope that it helps!

    • @merlijnbakker8797
      @merlijnbakker8797 3 роки тому +3

      @@LOVEMUFFIN_official Wow, thats a clear explanation! I get it now, crazy that even the rolling marbles seem to go at their normal speed, as if they are actually unique marbles. I played it on 0.25 speed (the x32 speed part) and saw some marbles jumping back and forwards through the pmma pipe, which double proved me that Martin didnt edited the video to see if we would notice it which i thought was the case initially.

  • @MrBobinater
    @MrBobinater 2 роки тому

    the marbles lining up perfectly when he puts in the new divide by 4 is so satisfying to watch. This machine is absolutely brilliant. I give great kudos to you, Wintergatan! this is an incredible feat of engineering to do something like this. Absolutely mesmerizing, and again, extremely satisfying to watch it in action!

  • @purplenirple
    @purplenirple 3 роки тому

    Love the rocking switches on your 4-way divider. Brilliant

  • @andychow5509
    @andychow5509 3 роки тому +251

    This guys whole life is dedicated to this strange musical machine. Incredible.

    • @hassanmohammed6755
      @hassanmohammed6755 3 роки тому +1

      This is musical machine ?

    • @Nom8d
      @Nom8d 3 роки тому

      I call da Boliz!

    • @raoufbensalem3417
      @raoufbensalem3417 3 роки тому

      @@hassanmohammed6755 yes

    • @Raccoon._.06
      @Raccoon._.06 3 роки тому

      @@hassanmohammed6755 haven't you seen his original wintergatten marble machine video?

    • @andychow5509
      @andychow5509 3 роки тому

      @@hassanmohammed6755 Yes. It drops those metal bearings to make sound.

  • @writeordie5452
    @writeordie5452 3 роки тому +1716

    Next episode: "It made too much noise, so I had to scrap it."

    • @FablestoneSeries
      @FablestoneSeries 3 роки тому +69

      and its ugly

    • @dogsod
      @dogsod 3 роки тому +49

      I thought its ugly too, but then I named it as a frog-desing. Then became nice Wilsons friend.

    • @ShamWerks
      @ShamWerks 3 роки тому +34

      "Pain is temporary..."

    • @lucienwerner
      @lucienwerner 3 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @TheGlassgubben
      @TheGlassgubben 3 роки тому +17

      I could be imagining things, but to me it sounded more quiet than the marbles moving along the top and possibly even in the pipes.

  • @ffjsb
    @ffjsb Рік тому +9

    The engineering is as beautiful as the music from these machines. Astounding. The woodworking is much more refined in this model too.

  • @sarahknight6627
    @sarahknight6627 3 роки тому +12

    "What is my purpose?"
    "You divide marbles into 4 tracks."

  • @places2visit
    @places2visit 3 роки тому +780

    *Someone: Playing with marbles is no rocket science*
    *This Guy:*

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 3 роки тому +9

      Yeah. It's Physics and logic/statistics.

    • @mchinZR
      @mchinZR 3 роки тому +2

      Those are ball bearings

    • @pachio2011
      @pachio2011 3 роки тому +1

      @@mchinZR lol

    • @hambaku7318
      @hambaku7318 2 роки тому +1

      Too bad he's seek for perfection lead to the project's death.

    • @btf_flotsam478
      @btf_flotsam478 2 роки тому

      @@Speed001 I think he's taken the statistics out of it.

  • @adriansdigitalbasement
    @adriansdigitalbasement 3 роки тому +858

    That was so incredibly satisfying! Well done!!!

    • @nilswegner2881
      @nilswegner2881 3 роки тому +5

      I always love it when my favorite channels watch each others videos :D

    • @laurensa.1803
      @laurensa.1803 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed it was! I love these analog gates.

  • @dantower8268
    @dantower8268 Рік тому

    So satisfying to watch. Thank you for those last three marbles!!!

  • @toowindy1177
    @toowindy1177 3 роки тому

    My music instructor showed me this video and I couldn’t wait to go home to watch more of your videos! Love it!

  • @Mikaci_the_Grand_Duke
    @Mikaci_the_Grand_Duke 3 роки тому +17

    This similar "flip-flop" mechanism is used in raindrop counter of weather stations. If there is enough water on one side of the "scale" it losts it's balance and flips ower letting the rain pour out enabling at the same time the "dish" on the other side to collect water till it flips ower too. Very simple and robust mechanical solution.

    • @stigcc
      @stigcc 3 роки тому +5

      Cool. I used this to make a rain counter once. Instead of measuring the amount of rain, I needed only to count the number of flips and flops

  • @lazergurka-smerlin6561
    @lazergurka-smerlin6561 3 роки тому +160

    What this series has taught me:
    "Make it simple and reliable."

    • @msx80
      @msx80 3 роки тому +11

      You mean Resilient

    • @cmdraftbrn
      @cmdraftbrn 3 роки тому +12

      make it idiot proof. problem is ...theres always a better idiot

    • @Benrob0329
      @Benrob0329 3 роки тому +6

      The KISS principle.

    • @CraftMine1000
      @CraftMine1000 3 роки тому +8

      Martin has yet to adhere to this standard though, the problem isn't the subassemblies but the design of the overall machine,
      Martin tries to apply engineering principles but he let's the musician in himself take over, both in subassemblies and in overall design, I'd argue more in overall design since it was made some time ago and he was less experienced engineering wise at that time, it still creeps up a lot though, a majority of which I would argue is because of that old overall design,
      as a programmer, if I get to a point in a project where I continously rewrite some part of the code because of underlying architecture I start wagering to rewrite that underlying architecture, it may be more work now, but it will save much more work in the future, and these rewrites tend to happen multiple times before an efficient and user friendly architecture is found, in the end, everything is a prototype

    • @lazergurka-smerlin6561
      @lazergurka-smerlin6561 3 роки тому +4

      @@msx80 I mean no actually. Why I used the word reliable is because I want to encapsulate the idea of a very low failure rate as a whole. While making a thing resilient is important part of that, you also have to make it consistent, durable and easily repaired

  • @jtclark877
    @jtclark877 3 роки тому

    This is absolutely mesmerizing, man. Thanks for this video. I appreciate it.

  • @VANNYGAMING666
    @VANNYGAMING666 Рік тому +1

    I learned about this guy a few years ago and loved his machine. The fact that he can do this shows that he is the best musician/engineer ever. If we had more machines like this the world of music would be way better, I am glad he made the machine and made me realize what music really meant

  • @huhneat1076
    @huhneat1076 3 роки тому +164

    "What instruments do you play?"
    "Oh you know, piano, bass, marbles, guita-"
    "Marbles?"

    • @enold4ever
      @enold4ever 3 роки тому +9

      piano, bass, marbles, guitarr, drums, modulin, typewriter, theremin, xylophone, muscial saw. what doesn't this man play?

    • @ManuelGennaroMusic
      @ManuelGennaroMusic 3 роки тому +5

      "what instrument do you play?"
      *SHOWS THE WINTERGATAN INSTRUMENT WALL*

    • @paulfontaine7819
      @paulfontaine7819 3 роки тому +1

      Don't forget the frisbee ;-)

    • @Gibson99
      @Gibson99 3 роки тому +1

      Ball bearings

    • @reinoutspanjers8562
      @reinoutspanjers8562 3 роки тому

      I feel like Martin also plays the washers... Definitely in the uttermost beautiful way he pronounces it.

  • @BenTardif
    @BenTardif 3 роки тому +378

    Rockers have always worked well for me. I’ll always use that method when I need equal division. Glad it’s working out for you!

    • @LuizFernandopr
      @LuizFernandopr 3 роки тому +1

      just subscribed to you, your channel looks interesting :)

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 3 роки тому +1

      But it does introduce some noise, but you could change where it flows into the flop, maybe another bit of pipe or slight angle change.

    • @tommj4365
      @tommj4365 3 роки тому +7

      The best divide by 4 is no divide by 4. There are simpler more reliable ways to recycle marbles but Martin keeps holding onto risky designs which he already saw fail in the original marble machine, like this...

    • @brockstanford7608
      @brockstanford7608 3 роки тому +1

      @@tommj4365 I don't understand the need for a divide by 4, one at a time. Why not divide by 4, always grabbing four at a time?

    • @tommj4365
      @tommj4365 3 роки тому +5

      ​@@brockstanford7608basically Martin wanted the cool visual effect of a fish stair pumping in sync with the music, and 4 at a time provided the ideal throughput. your idea (if I understand correctly) of just grabbing 4 at the bottom of the fishstair was actually suggested and prototyped, but it seemed pretty quickly dismissed for some reason.

  • @ryanstewart531
    @ryanstewart531 Рік тому

    Wow, I didn't expect it to work so perfectly. Must be so satisfying from your perspective

  • @ChallengeTheBuild
    @ChallengeTheBuild 3 роки тому

    I honestly haven't watched a full yt video in a long time, its hard for me to engage with the videos, but this is just amazing, the level of engineering and clarity within the video is awesome. Well done 👍, I would watch it again. 😎

  • @themongothatbongoed
    @themongothatbongoed 3 роки тому +144

    I won't be surprised that when MMX sings, Martin's going to win some engineering or music award for the most intricate piece of musical instrument of the century.

    • @casyop7402
      @casyop7402 3 роки тому

      @@firstnamelastname8790 did you reply to the wrong comment?

    • @themongothatbongoed
      @themongothatbongoed 3 роки тому

      What the hell happened here? I saw it still in feed.

  • @CristiNeagu
    @CristiNeagu 3 роки тому +34

    Those are a lot of marbles. They probably weight a lot. I would imagine they weight enough to bend the supports for the 4 marble tubes towards the outside, towards pipes 1 and 2. Maybe that contributes to the bias you saw. Either way, the new marble divider looks to be more robust.

    • @SilvrSavior
      @SilvrSavior 3 роки тому +3

      I estimate there is (front to back) 61, 60, 59, and 59 marbles in the tubes to the pinch. So yeah that is a decent amount of weight.

  • @Shmey
    @Shmey 2 роки тому

    Can't wait to catch this show on tour! That's one band member I don't think anyone will ever replace.

  • @ApertureAce
    @ApertureAce Рік тому

    The design you made to mechanically alternate the marble paths was so elegant and simple it boggles my mind that the marbles wouldn't distribute evenly in the first place. It's very reminiscent of computer logic gates, which is always a treat to see mechanical forms of digital logic.

  • @Straylight4299
    @Straylight4299 3 роки тому +94

    Would be neat if you could add a mechanical marble counter that displays how many marbles rolled through the machine per song/concert/tour/total.

    • @raphaelho3551
      @raphaelho3551 3 роки тому +7

      This this! I think having a count that's from the bottom, as that will show how many marbles that are used to make the music.

    • @bodhi_db
      @bodhi_db 3 роки тому

      definitely!!

    • @SystemX1983
      @SystemX1983 3 роки тому +6

      @@raphaelho3551 failing marbles (not that we want to see some) will get their own counter, labeled "body count"?

    • @ciberbri59
      @ciberbri59 3 роки тому +2

      Great idea. I've watched musicians play and wondered just how many notes they just played. Now we'd know!

    • @SilvrSavior
      @SilvrSavior 3 роки тому +2

      Where would the counter go?

  • @ArieofEnder
    @ArieofEnder 3 роки тому +337

    It would be interesting seeing this with four different coloured marbles. Test of accuracy, seeing if all the same colour ends up in the same tunnel or not (i know it's not an important feature, but it'd be neat)

    • @JasonDeath
      @JasonDeath 2 роки тому +43

      I don't belive they would. If you start it with all the rockers the same way (toward the camera). Starting from the camera back would be slots 1,2,3,4. The marbles go up. The 1st marble would go into slot 1, 2nd to slot 3, 3rd into slot 2 and 4th into slot 4, repeat. Since the 4th slot marble loads 1st each time it would go to slot 1 changing the color. If I figured it out right, slot 1 and 4 would alternate between each other while slot 2 and 3 would stay the same.

    • @ericbrunemackes6751
      @ericbrunemackes6751 2 роки тому +17

      @@JasonDeath It would still be neat to see... probably a great visual effect in the long term, but given the weight (and random size in glass) difference between glass and steel marbles, it would be hard to do. You couldn't just paint the marbles either... they would have to be different colors of steel, which would probably have to be specially manufactured.

    • @DavRBailey
      @DavRBailey 2 роки тому +9

      I love the idea of the colored marble experiment. However, I think that depending on what music was being played, the marbles would go to different paths to hit different notes, etc, and would then have to travel back to the supply tube via different routes, and therefore would mess up the placement of each marble. Cool thought though and I'd try it anyway. 🙂

    • @TheTanadu
      @TheTanadu Рік тому +1

      accuracy when not playing, but if they jump "out" back to the system in different speed, then all stuff will change

  • @AlexGreeneHypnotist
    @AlexGreeneHypnotist 3 роки тому

    There should be a unit on this in every engineering course in the world. I'm imagining industrial engineers everywhere tuning in to see this in action, and I hope you are getting plenty of emails asking for information.

  • @matthewmathis62
    @matthewmathis62 11 місяців тому

    That's really cool!
    I was really impressed with your design.
    And I liked your analogy, too.
    You did a good job! :)

  • @jtsancen9258
    @jtsancen9258 3 роки тому +23

    Never thought I would basically see an instrument being “debugged.” The overflowing marbles especially reminded me of memory overflow in computers.
    Love your work, Martin.
    The dragon is close to defeat. I can sense it.

  • @DJBillionator
    @DJBillionator 3 роки тому +43

    Dude, i have been following this creation for 6 years. You're one hell of a musician and engineer. I absolutely love all that you're doing with this!

    • @onetdev
      @onetdev 3 роки тому +1

      You've saved me the time of making the very same comment.

    • @DJBillionator
      @DJBillionator 3 роки тому

      @@onetdev Thank you and you're welcome! I wanted to say so much more. But, less is more.

  • @Misakachichan
    @Misakachichan 3 роки тому

    Absolutely brilliant with the toggle dividers!!!!!!

  • @109Rage
    @109Rage Рік тому

    I don't know what this is. I don't know why UA-cam recommended this. I was fascinated the whole time with the creativity and engineering of a problem I have no context to.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @vsoundelend
    @vsoundelend 3 роки тому +61

    This machine is like a fully self sustained functional factory in Satisfactory.

    • @niko1077
      @niko1077 3 роки тому +1

      Completely relatable

    • @delofon
      @delofon Рік тому

      or factorio!

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 3 роки тому +14

    This is, by far, one of the best engineering videos I've seen in a while. I'm a software engineer and see this contraption as "how to handle backpressure with a load balancer".

  • @N1lav
    @N1lav Рік тому

    I am working as a software tester and you talking about the different types of resliency and types of testing made me smile.

  • @FireLover7004
    @FireLover7004 Рік тому

    Something I haven't noticed(yet) anyone point out about your design is how it uses the Pim method of sorting. Lovely design and always great to watch in either slowmo or sped up. Looking forward to the next video.

  • @TaylorFalk21
    @TaylorFalk21 3 роки тому +35

    Watching the clock sped up to 32x made me think about life...
    So often we have moments where we can’t wait for something and wish time would run faster. But seeing hours pass like seconds made me feel uneasy. We have to enjoy the moments more

    • @atrocious_pr0xy
      @atrocious_pr0xy 3 роки тому +2

      ..passing so fast you can't see it move.

    • @escanormurillo9742
      @escanormurillo9742 3 роки тому +3

      Dust in the wind....all we are is dust in the wind

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 3 роки тому +1

      I get u, but even at 32x speed, it takes 2 seconds for a minute to pass.
      ~2 minutes for 1 hour to pass.
      So time really wasn't moving that fast.

    • @dirtblock1383
      @dirtblock1383 3 роки тому +3

      Sometimes i stare at myself on the mirror and think about my existence and why did this world and everything on and around it appear and who made everything?

    • @atrocious_pr0xy
      @atrocious_pr0xy 3 роки тому +1

      @@dirtblock1383 mind-numbing questions that can either break you or deliver you to freedom.

  • @massimocole9689
    @massimocole9689 3 роки тому +30

    10:50 He's going to need to add another digit to that counter soon!

    • @BacsPet96
      @BacsPet96 3 роки тому +1

      First I thought you are talking about the overflow at 3:10.

  • @soulsnipe
    @soulsnipe 3 роки тому

    That rocking separator scene gave me the chills. This is so cool.

  • @the-witness8811
    @the-witness8811 3 роки тому +1

    Genuinely a good design. Great job man!

  • @johnr3940
    @johnr3940 3 роки тому +43

    Martin: I’m not using flip flops for divide by four, I’ve used them before on the original marble machine, they don’t work
    Also Martin: I IMPROVED THE DIVIDE BY FOUR WITH FLIP FLOPS!

  • @kevinhutt3854
    @kevinhutt3854 3 роки тому +19

    Seeing the marble queue stay at nearly the exact same spot at 32x speed is dreamy

  • @monkeynova2012
    @monkeynova2012 3 роки тому

    The craftmanship and design on this is insane!

  • @michaelgreyproductions5103
    @michaelgreyproductions5103 Рік тому +1

    It’s so satisfying how large of a scale this is. 4 perfect streams is so cool.

  • @BogdanBacila301
    @BogdanBacila301 3 роки тому +44

    Well here I am in the first ones! I just need to take the opportunity to tell you how inspired I am am by this amazing madness going on and how fortunate we are to live in the same period.

  • @Stanzafly
    @Stanzafly 3 роки тому +16

    I thought the old divide by 4 looked sleek but this one is BEAUTIFUL. The old one almost looks dinky in comparison! Well done, Martin!

  • @Tubeytime
    @Tubeytime Рік тому

    That was one of the best explanations of an engineering principle I've ever heard.

  • @mandridhugh9555
    @mandridhugh9555 2 роки тому +6

    The early signs of obsessive perfectionism were right in front of us all along, we just didn’t realize it until the the MMX got cannibalized

  • @QWERTYMUZX
    @QWERTYMUZX 3 роки тому +51

    He is not only a good musician but also a good engineer who happen to be a good carpenter as well..cuz that carving was smooth af😺

    • @tonyromano6220
      @tonyromano6220 3 роки тому +1

      I see that, amazing woodworking and design.

    • @Ozerons
      @Ozerons 3 роки тому

      It's all CNC

  • @Kolop315
    @Kolop315 3 роки тому +18

    It's like one of those satisfying repeating 3d renders but it's real. I love it so much. So satisfying.

  • @crackrokmccaib
    @crackrokmccaib 3 роки тому

    This will revolutionize the way marbles will be sorted into 4 tubes. My man, you have solved a huge problem.

  • @fordfreak2007
    @fordfreak2007 3 роки тому

    I can't wait to see this run. The original video with the hand cranked machine came up in recommended videos several years ago.

  • @timinator20o0
    @timinator20o0 3 роки тому +15

    7:50 it's funny the framerate makes the elevator look like it's in slow motion. Perfectly. 😂

    • @tryarie1970
      @tryarie1970 Рік тому

      That means the elevation movement itself synchronized with the 32x video framerate, creating a movement illusion. I'm pretty sure there's a technical term for that, but i have no idea.

  • @ericmorrison278
    @ericmorrison278 3 роки тому +3

    This is honestly the most fascinating thing I have ever started watching. This has been such an incredibly educating and awe-inspiring show. So freaking cool

  • @alex46215
    @alex46215 3 роки тому

    5:16 I felt relieved for you...after what you went through, that improved divide by 4...and, so simple to reuse existing parts, the same size...etc WELL FRICKING DONE

  • @chrisakaschulbus4903
    @chrisakaschulbus4903 Рік тому

    This is just awesome and a very clever, yet simple design. I also love that it's modular and you can just replace the divide by four part :D

  • @timmyfriedland8008
    @timmyfriedland8008 3 роки тому +5

    This episode has the essence of the whole endeavor. It’s amazing to begin with. Then we add magic and make it incredibly fantastic. And then it’s only 99% precise. So we add galactic awesomeness. And then it’s perfect.

  • @DMadHacks
    @DMadHacks 3 роки тому +20

    It is MMX Monday my dudes...

  • @Will-kl5ri
    @Will-kl5ri 3 роки тому +1

    First video I’ve ever seen from this guy and I can assuredly say I love this man

  • @sergiogawalione8398
    @sergiogawalione8398 3 роки тому +18

    This reminds me of a guided tour through a ships engine, where the guide tries to speak louder that the running engine.

  • @patrickfreeman9094
    @patrickfreeman9094 3 роки тому +13

    Very satisfying to see those marbles line up at 32x speed.

  • @MakeLifeExtraordinary
    @MakeLifeExtraordinary 2 роки тому

    Dude, I was amazed by the little clocks back in the 1980s… This would’ve been heaven. Truly amazing. Great work.

  • @clarkkc11
    @clarkkc11 3 роки тому

    Your problem solving is admirable.
    Your machine is beautiful.
    Your engineering is perfect!

  • @al5577
    @al5577 3 роки тому +27

    The thing we need to learn from this man is we can always improve to be better, even than 99%. Damn.

  • @areyoumadbroxd6861
    @areyoumadbroxd6861 3 роки тому +114

    Parents: So what do you want to do when you grow up?
    Kid: I’m going to make money playing with marbles!
    Parents: 😑…

    • @admrlty
      @admrlty 3 роки тому +3

      My 4 year old says this (he even made up a new term for it: 'marbleologist') and I'm all for it!

    • @gh8447
      @gh8447 3 роки тому +4

      Well I can just imagine his parents' reaction if he said "I'm going to make money playing with mah balls!".

    • @areyoumadbroxd6861
      @areyoumadbroxd6861 3 роки тому +1

      @admrlty
      Haha, awe that’s cute!

    • @areyoumadbroxd6861
      @areyoumadbroxd6861 3 роки тому +1

      @G H
      Haha , omg. 😂

  • @K-Viz
    @K-Viz 3 роки тому

    This is like programming but visualized/concretized! Amazing!

  • @LC-ej8jw
    @LC-ej8jw 3 роки тому +1

    I don’t even know what this is, I just enjoying ball rolling around perfectly and balanced, great job man!

  • @joshuasims5421
    @joshuasims5421 3 роки тому +10

    I was a big fan of the old, non-mechanical divide by four. And I’m a big fan of the new one! It works great and has a lot of visual personality.