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So which is it MP3 VS WAV? I have a feeling the people using MP3’s to DJ want to know if they need to upgrade from MP3 to wavs and the people already using WAV’s most likely view MP3’s as dirty files - kind of like fast food that’s accessible everywhere. In this video find out what most DJs are using and what is the best option for you.
mp3 is generally cd quality. people on mdma dont notice
Hahahahaha
Why would you think people on mdma are less perceptive to a bigger frequency range?
This made my day !!!
Mp3 is not cd quality, not at all, but the joke is ok.
If you have, like Function 1 sound, it can be noticed by people.
A man of many metaphors, absolute legend
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I’ve been waiting for this!!!
I just get the WAVs then convert them to AIFF so I can tag them. I used to use FLAC files, but then you're out of luck if they don't have NXS2s. Some clubs only have an XDJ-RX2, and that works fine for everybody except the nerd who showed up with FLAC files on her thumb drives.
There are a lot of ways MP3s can go bad once you start DJing with them. If you want to get something from UA-cam you should learn how to use youtube-dl and make your own files from the 160 kbps Opus source stream and never trust some shady downloader site grabbing who-knows-which stream and recompressing it with whatever settings they felt like.
MP3's also have a high-frequency cutoff depending on their bitrate: 128 kbit = 16.5 KHz. 160 kbit = 17.2 KHz. 192 kbit = 18.7 KHz. 224 kbit = 19.4 KHz. 320 kbit = 20.1 KHz.
If you look at the spectrum you can see a line where the encoder killed the high frequencies and you can tell which bitrate it was encoded at.
Most adults can't hear much over 17 KHz, but what happens if you slow down the BPM by 5%? That changes 18 KHz to 17 KHz. The more pitch-shifting and EQ-ing you do the more you'll bring out problems with compressed audio. Eventually you'll start to notice your hi-hats are all wooshy and everything sounds terrible.
Encoders also do psychoacoustic modeling which throws away some information. You don't notice when you play the track normally, but ... when you EQ a track or run it through FX you might be amplifying part with lost information and you'll uncover compression artifacts.
I convert WAVs to AIFF, too. I can also definitely hear the difference between these and lower quality files, even in my car.
Shame that some things don't support FLAC. They're open source so really they have no excuse to.
@@ICTman Tell me about it! Most of my library is CBR320 and FLAC. Obviously the mp3s will work with iTunes for building smart playlists, but not FLACs. No way can I re d/l my bandcamp library in another format and retag everything (though I've switched to m4a for all new d/l's).
Pisses me off that Apple won't integrate FLAC, just to keep their less used and more restrictive ALAC format alive.
Looks like beaTunes might be an alternative audio librarian, but it doesn't quite have the smart playlist functionality I'm after. Does work well with Traktor though.
beatunes.com/
@@sapiotone Apple's business isn't tech, it's services. As soon as you buy an Apple product, you force yourself into using Apple's services, for better or, more often, for worse. Apple's a lost cause, but it's a shame that other developers just can't be bothered - it would take maybe one dev a day or two to get a satisfactory implementation, and maybe at most a week to get a full blown implementation. Apart from labour, there is no cost to supporting FLAC, so why it isn't a more common thing I don't know.
Precisely what I was saying about high freq listeners and harmonics. I used .flac at some point. Fully agree on what you said from the technical point of view. But after dealing for an year or two with those formats I turned to .mp3 320 for practical uses, taking all precautions as you stated. The high freq cut off is noticeable but I tent not to fx that much so never though about it... I guess I am too old school... or just too old :) probably...I can notice the richness of the sound (more harmonics in the digitising process) but with a good mp3 carefully coded in my experience, the sound is fine for 99,99% of the dance floor. Then again, not a big fx user honestly. I do also always use a post mixer equaliser that helps to correct small differences from song to song and perhaps also compensate somewhat for loss of fidelity. As a rule of thumb, or rule of ears, if the file doesn't sound good in my headphones under controlled conditions, cannot go to the crate and need some further processing. But honestly, with proven sorces, that seldom happens.
Good point you mentioned, will start messing with the FX and see what happens.
I didn't notice a difference between 320 mp3s and WAVs until I played on a really high end Danley system...the WAVS definitely hit the speakers/harder better. not a huge difference, but It was definitely noticeable. On the usual club system I haven't really been able to tell much of a difference tbh.
you've been fooled by your eyes mate. makes no difference
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Thank you, great video!
Wow extremely well covered!
Great info, answered my question... keep up the great content!
This video just explained everything I've had to learn the hard way over multiple years of ripping music of YT. granted, lately, I've been ONLY using sources that upload in 1080p and a conveter that DL's in 320, but i have def noticed quite a few songs that have 100% been ripped from another video in low quality, and re-uploaded in higher quality and it sounds like absolute garbage even tho it was DL'd in 320 from a 1080 source, the originating source was only uploaded in 720 or something, this video could have saved me a crap load of time. big ups for taking the time to explain all this :)
finally save my stress, looks like I have spend too much money on wav. Now I will do 320 mp3. Good work!!
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Thank you for making this video
Love your enthusiasm. Thank you for the video. I use 320kps MP3 files which allows me, as a mobile DJ, to embed lighting scripts into the MP3 tags to create unique lighting programs associated with selected files. Just before lockdown I did a gig for about 2,500 people using 320 kps MP3 files and outputting via a digital mixer to 24 array speakers and 8 subs - it sounded awesome on this big system.
I don't know how your lighting system works but FLAC really does a great job when it comes to embedded tags compared to wav
@@ICTmanyesssss !!! That's why I replaced my library with flacs !!!
Great video very helpful
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The last time I used a dj pool I didn't really like the music they had to offer. I'd try searching a specific song and couldn't find it. If there were a larger selection to choose from, I'd give it another try. Otherwise, I'll stick to converting my tracks until I start playing on bigger sound systems. If you're playing a house party or anything with a small PA system, chances are nobody will notice. That way, I can build my sets the way I want with the tracks I want. So if you're a bedroom dj, or you play smaller partys, don't worry about it so much. Once you feel like you're getting closer to play at bigger events, switch over to dj pools or pay for single songs online.
I use all 320 kbps from bpm supreme and I also get all my music from beatport and playing all those songs in clubs on good systems they all sound very good. Even when I make mashups I export my files as 320 kbps mp3s and they sound fine
Yesss!!! Your are the best !!!
I use Spek to check for the real bitrate, very useful and free, good video dude :)
@M P that is not correct sir, mp3 can be encoded up to 48KHz , wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Lame
I also use Speak, but sometimes (rarely) songs I bought and are 320kbps have a lower than 20k cutoff. Why is that?
@@Pedro7526 because they are not real 320, 320 is the max kbps the file can have but it doesn't mean the song is in that bitrate, you could have a 128 kbps in a 320, that's why by checking the HZ cutoff gives you an idea of the real quality of the song, cheers.
An android alternative I use to assess files on the go is Aspect. Uses the same code, but androidified.
@@Pedro7526from: wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=High-frequency_content_in_MP3s
- quote starts - Why MP3s omit high-frequency content
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MP3 encoders typically "lowpass" their input, cutting off the highest frequencies. There are several reasons for this:
Human hearing tends to drop off sharply somewhere between 16 and 20 KHz, usually toward the low end of that range.
The input to the encoder is unlikely to have much, if any, audible, musical (non-noise-like) high-frequency content.
Even if the source does have audible musical content above 16 KHz, preserving it would take away valuable space that could be used by the lower, more important frequency bands.
The MP3 format has difficulty storing content above 16 KHz without sacrificing quality and increasing the bitrate requirements of the lower frequency bands. - end quote.
Now the file can also be re-encoded from lower bitrates souces or kept with some encoded restriction even at 320kbps sampling rate to keep the size reasonable for whatever reason... it is important to note that frequency content and encoding algorithms will affect the result file in size, quality, etc, especially if some parameters when sampling and encoding are not allowed to variate if required. If you are really interested in the subject there is a lot of information in the internet addressing all the aspects from sampling, information theory, codding, codecs, etc. not to mention some good points in all the comments here :)
Now at the end of the day, it is all about perception (which is not the same from one person to another!) and that is what mp3 and other "lossy" formats plays with. In contrast, the "lossless" formats like wav, flac, etc keep more information even when is not perceived by most.
Now you have to determine if working with one or another is worth it or not, which I presume is the scope of this useful and down to earth video approach without getting too technical and/or boring.
100% agree mp3 320bit rate is fine unless producing music
Definitely NOT TRUE.... pls when you have an opinion it’s fine but don’t spread crap making it sound like you’re right. You’re not!!!
@@DocFUNKist So, what's your opinion then?
@@junglist1soldier lossless...ALWAYS AND EVERYWHERE... the song will simply SOUND different (better) and much higher impact!
@@DocFUNKist It will sound different maybe if you put on headphones, but in a club no one can tell, not even you.
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I always try to get the WAV file, I notice a huge difference in the quality if you compare WAV and 356 it’s no question about its a large quality drop to 356. It still works for sure but you definitely lose some of the richness and depth of the song using a mp3. I am planning on playing in some big clubs one day and my library is super important to me so if I have the chance to have the absolute best quality music I will. Your library is a life long project so the space it takes doesn’t really matter that much because you will never stop evolving you music. So having a high standard music library is something I value because as a dj you spend a crazy amount of time organizing your music.
@@m-stat9 Hm well yes it is.
Maybe your hearing isnt as good as you think or you don't have equipment to hear a tune properly. But its no doubt it is a pretty large drop in quality, il do a blind test any day and ive done it before so i am sure in what i am saying.
The difference is very clear when you have good speakers/monitors, & good hearing. Huge difference between 320 & anything less. It's like playing an old school cassette tape. I also noticed how Serato miscalculated the BPM on my lower quality DnB MP3 's. All of them are tagged at like 80 or, 90 BPM. I thought at first that Serato DJ Pro was just looking at the slower intro or, breakdowns until I noticed that it was everything D&B that I transferred over from CD's decades ago.
Now I have to get them all over again. If I can. Most were mixes. BPM Supreme is OK for average music but, not when you know exactly what underground tracks you want. It was extremely difficult to even just find any anthems or, older underground tracks. VIP's/Dubplates. Etc.
no you just needed to x2 the tempo. common issue with anything above 140-150bpm
Hello ! Thank you for the infos there ! I usually download on soundeo, and I choose AIFF format . Same quality as WAV but you get all the ID3 infos. On beatport, it cost you a fortune to buy music in WAV/AIFF ! Like ... 2$ per file vs 1.29$ for the 320kbps MP3 one. Btw, I agree with what you said and 320kbps files is good enough :) Keep up the good work man !
I’m a dj in my local psytrance scene where we bring festival grade speakers out bush. I’ve found that even 320kbps doesn’t cut it in terms of quality cause every single imperfection is amplified in these systems. Also there is a massive drop in volume and I’m having to increase the gain on the 320 track every time and bring it back down when I’ve loaded a wav back into the channel. Sure, the punters don’t know the difference but half the people that go to these events are audio engineers or djs themselves who all have an ear for it. Stick with aiff or wav as they’re both uncompressed or flac if you need to as it’s a lossless compression. If you have a big enough library where you’re worried about space, you’re at a point where spending $100 on a good external hard drive is more than worth it.
You might want to try replay gain. Helps to make volume between tracks pretty constant. I stick all my tracks into foobar2000 and it does a great job.
when there's a drop in volume when playing mp3s either your encoder or your player fucked up
320kbp MP3 is indistinguishable form WAV’s in clubs
"the punters don’t know the difference". There is your answer
He made it thaaaanks
Once again I have to agree with our friend, unless your playing on a quality system I doubt you will hear the difference especially if your playing in a home environment or a bar. Mp3s are easier to manage with artwork and metadata etc. I buy all my files online with a 320 bit rate and no less but Iam not a working dj. Many years ago i transferred all my vinyl onto cds as wavs and although you could say I have the best quality back ups and I dont touch them because for me to import them into my Traktor software it would take me the same amount of time to label them all up etc lol..l
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peter saint Idk. I don’t have the money right now. And I am actually saving for two proper turntables atm to advance my djing.
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Huge sigh of relief after watching this. I digitised mu CDs all mp3 320. Over 300gb. There is no way i have the storage for them all in WAV. Just bought ddj 800 to mix them on. Thanks for taking the time to share.
soundeo offers wav btw, great recordpool for e.g. techno
I was taught to always use WAV file as its the best music quality...but listening to you and thinking about it logically, untrained ears prob wont be able to tell the difference. Also, i think getting WAVs in all genres and music categories could be harder than getting just mp3. So i'm leaning now towards the high quality mp3s.
Yeah it's harder to get wav in some genres. As an electronic music dj - from deep house to techno - Imits easier to get wav and flac. My library is now almost entirely made of flac - also lossless. And the difference can tell the difference on high end sound systems.....
See I had loads of 320s of soulseek checked some and most are just changed from 128s haha thank you so much
Exactly right, 320 Kbps is the minimum regarding club DJ's. And keep in mind that WAV does not store metadata in the file itself (track info, beatgrid, CUE points). Thank you for the video.
Yeaah the metadata makes a huge difference to me. I had been downloading all my music as AIFF (can't remember why) but when I finally went to analyze them all and prepare them, the key data wasn't uploading in Rekordbox. It's taken a while but I've finally got everything redownloaded as MP3s now!
@@isaacsherwood8373 does FLAC store bpm and cues?
That's why I use flac: great lossless alternative to wav, and u can incorporate all the tag data u want on them 😊
@@hithere4289yes it does. That's what I do. And I mix using virtual dj. No issues there. Now I would love to know if serato and record box support flac. Otherwise I'll be stuck with using virtual dj. Which is fine, just wondering, just in case
@@bitangayves2125 flac works on rb
I have all my music in .aiff or .wav, with only some .mp3 320 in songs i can't find in other format. The difference is HUGE and will mark the distinction between a atmospheric listining or just an attack listening, even worse in large sistems.
Good luck with the metadata 😂 when using a dj controller with serato to prepare and practice your sets at home, the nightmare begins when you need to switch to a fancy pioneer setup in a club. All prepared cue points..... gone, bpm, song key etc.... gone. Time you spent for the preperations for this set.....gone...for nothing 😂. So screw that little quality difference on certain specific systems, in that case, I prefer a good and practical worflow thanks to the accessible metadata of MP3
@@jornycarafa6568 you have the same function of meta data with .aiif
Great video. As an ex vinyl dj that's just started up again using digital mediums I was interested in this. I remember all my producer mates, way back when, were on a properly snobby .wav tip. We were running a sound system at the time, and, to the sound technicians, the word mp3 was blasphemy. When I started up DJing again recently, I messaged an old mate who's now really successful at producing and djing for an opinion, since .wavs seemed hard so to get.. She plays sets through 50+k of pro audio set ups on the regular. When it comes to her own style, and what she produces, she said she plays .wavs. But when she's mixing other genres, as she often does, she plays mp3, and no one notices the differences. 10 Years ago she'd have been the first person to turn her nose up at mp3s, and now she reckons that the only ppl that really care are audiophiles that tweak amps, mixing boards, and crossovers. Thanks for your content, man, your enthusiasm is infectious, and I enjoy your uninhibited stream of consciousness rants haha. Big up!
Maybe. But ten years ago, mp3 meant low-bit-rate. Storage was limited so 128kbps was common. In that case, even old people can hear the difference.
@@briancase6180 True.
Might be subjective perception but playing wav or flac against mp3 sounds more dynamic for me in the whole range. I feel harder kicking bass, nicer mid range and less grinding top range.
Where one is playing as a dj and the quality of sound system esp speakers also is another factor. Otherwise which file format a dj use is secondary as long people just want listen to their fav tunes & swing along.
Mind you; there are those who will still buy an empty cokecola bottle for a million buck and not give a *uck
If technicality of sound system from bottom-top is to be top notch, then is the need to measure up.
Cheers for this video mate, I'm sat in beatport wondering what to download! .wav it is :)
Cool, Cool!
How about sound systems on big festivals? Mp3 still ok? Great video btw, thanks!
I use 320kb MP3 files. I do have some tracks in WAV but its only a small amount. But its not just the file, its also the kit you are using. Ive played using CDJ's and to me the sound was rather cheap, but when using my Denon MC7000 in a club it sounded freaking awesome. The 32bit DAC seems to make a big difference in sound quality compared to the 16bit DAC in some pioneer kit.
If you don't have a good dac or sound system, lossless is useless. I learned that when I tried my AKG K-361s on my phone only to realise my phone DAC makes everything really muddy.
Im just a bedroom Dj and have not had my first gig yet. I download from youtube with mp3 converter. I have a Pioneer XDJ X-Z and to me the quality sounds more than enough. When/if i ever get my first gig will they all laugh at me if i use the files i downoaded from here ?
@@theaverageguy3884 You cannot use ripped files from youtube on a club sound system. It will sound absolutely sh^%. You also need to own all the files. Keep email receipts for every track you ever buy. Particuarly important here in the UK.
@@dj_paultuk7052 Thanks for the answer mate. I made a soundcloud account this morning and will look in to buying music from now on. Guess all bedroom Djs start of the same way.
I always pay the extra .50 on beatport for the wav. If I run into any space issues later on for whatever reason, I'll just batch convert the wavs to mp3. I've never ran into any space issues, though. These days it doesn't seem to be an issue.
Less than 10 seconds on Amazon and I found a 4TB hard drive for £78.99 - mine from a few years ago was £99. 1TB is as low as £38.99. Prices keep going down, if you run out of space you'll be able to get loads more for cheap. Personally I think the argument that lossless is bigger is starting to lose its grip.
same here. i remember the price of vinyl. so its cheaper to me.
@Marin Pavešić I know you commented a year ago, but in case you don't know yet, just use a VPN to unblock whatever site you're on.
My suggestion would be the following... you never know when you want to add a little bit of own flavor to the track so you better to invest as little as few cents to get a proper .AIFF. Cheers!
Most importantly,. New dj's should be using programs like "Spek" spectrum software to analize their mp3's. Any files that show cuts under the 20khz/16khz mark should not be played nor are they worth paying for. From my own experience I have found out that even some of the mp3's i bought from Beatport back in the days were worse quality compressions then the same tracks downloaded through YT for comparisson at 320kbps. My personal opinion is that, there are websites out there that offer very well made mp3's even with all the metadata properly done so it all show nicely in Rekordbox, where you for the same price mind you also can buy the Waves presupposed you have the space for it. Furthermore, if you are playing on systems that can actually deliver the full range of the sound spectrum then people will truly "feel" the sets you are playing, the music become more alive and powerful.
Lets have it right here most if not all punters haven't got a clue about music quality. Factor in Drugs, Booze, and obsession with mobile phones. Most have the attention span of a guppy fish..
50 YEARS of Djing taught me that...
I use AIFF as it's lossless like WAV but supports more metadata.
I'm more partial to flac, but hey they are both lossless and tag-able 😊
The difference between wav and 320 is huge for me. I am a techno dj and cant stand hearing anything other than wavs . I think the best piece of advice for this is trust your ears. Get a quality pair of heaphones, take a listen and make your decision.
what I was curious about is having a mixture, so if you buy wavs then they are available but the have mp3's as well, when you play them one after the other on a bigger system will it be a bit more noticeable? I guess what i am asking is it better to stick with one or the other for consistency?
If you have a premium Tidal account you can compare the difference (approximately) by streaming a few tracks into Rekordbox - it has the option of normal (320K AAC) and CD quality (1440K FLAC). The CD quality option means tracks take a little longer to load into Rekordbox, but really only a few seconds longer, which I don't find to be a big problem. I must admit I haven't really done a back to back comparison in Rekordbox to see if I can tell the difference, although I can tell the difference when streaming from the Tidal app to my hi-fi over Airplay.
I haven't bought any tracks yet but I'm starting to build up a wish-list of tracks that aren't available in Tidal, so I do need to decide whether to go with MP3 or WAV - and this video has helped a bit (leaning towards MP3 now). One thing I do wonder is, even if the quality of a 320k MP3 is good enough for normal listening, does it stay good enough if you're slowing the track down substantially (like, more than say -5%) and using FX? I just imagine having richer source material will give the software/player/mixer more 1's and 0's to work with when you're asking them do more than just play a song at its original speed.
On a more general note, thanks for the videos. As a relative beginner to DJing (new lockdown hobby!) I really appreciate the advice and inspiration that I get from this channel!
Funny you said wav as "original" information. Long time ago we used to say that vinyl had the "original" information :)... I think that the problem resides in the amount of harmonics that are actually sampled and coded as a digital format. The higher the sampling rate, the more significant harmonics in the file. A very very well trained ear can detect the difference between certain vinyls and their counterparts in CD (wav) or mp3s... just because such ear can detect more harmonics than the normal guy... they are usually able to hear the bats sounds or the old power source converters high freq pitch very easily. So, there are not that many humans that can do that. Having said that, I do agree 200% with you... mp3 320 is perfect for most uses. And what you mention on the size taken by the file is spot on... duration and size are related (not directly) but is a good indication of sample bitrate.
Great video and very down to earth information! excellent as usual! BTW, I used vinyls, wavs and now, off course, mp3 320... I cannot believe the weight we used to carry on our (multiple) crates :D
The vinyl is pressed from the original digital file, you're not losing information. If it sounds better than the original its because it's because it's been mastered
@@ollywinters Yes... Original digital file nowadays. It used to be analogue... Anyway, the original digital file is way up sampled than an mp3 or even a wav (and including more harmonics plus remastered). Off course I do agree with you, current production, specially within the dance realm, it is done in a fully digital format exported to a wav or other lossless formats.
So what it used to be the "original master" fully analogue, now is the "original file", fully digital, and way better than any mp3, regardless the bitrate, harmonically speaking.
To be honest bass centric dance music 256 or 320 is fine. Although ,if I'm being honest I must admit ,I've been getting my music from Beatport and Traxsource . I decided to go for the same label from Amazon and the bass ,to me was discernably lower. I was taken aback ,but maybe because I'm a music aficionado I can tell. I guess most ordinary punters couldn't tell the difference though. Had to edit this comment after going back and listening, the bass on the tracks from the sites mentioned seemed overdriven. I had to adjust it although the amazon one's were fine, wierd.
I prefer the inconvenience, frustration and expense of vinyl. However nearly all my digital music is WAV. Simply because I wanna support the artist / label, WAV sometimes sounds better and hard-drive storage is relatively cheap.
What is the best place to get songs which are only available in youtube???
Where do you get the audio files for songs? I’m looking to make a dj set in my daw but i only use tidal rn
I was at a club the other night on a pair of funktion one speakers, it's night and day... the wav just has more space when listening and the mp3 is just more compressed sounding. even if people "can't tell the difference", why would you not want to sound the best you can be when in a club? it just doesn't make sense not to get the highest possible quality of audio possible.
I use 320 and it sounds great on a big sound system
I'm just a bedroom DJ so mp3 is fine for me I am curious to trying wav though 🤔
What about vinyl uploads/downloads on mp3? To me they sound great.
Can i render out all my wave files into one big wave file. Would it loose a lot of sound quality?? I would rather have one track going then 20 at once for live performance. THank you.
After all my try FLAC I found best long time ago
MP4 is the future
What kbps can you but from beatport? Is it 320 or better?
WAVs should actually be faster to load - they're just essentially raw audio. I like open source - they do it better and also it's nice to promote projects that work for people, not companies. OGGs can get comparable quality at slightly lower bit rates in my experience, and FLACs are a bit smaller than WAVs. I always aim for the highest possible quality since there's no point having a lower quality if you can get higher quality just as easily.
Flac all the way 😊
bro, so i ran into a e-8305 error in cdj. apparently it is an known issue for some tracks purchased thru bandcamp basically, I need to convert my wav to wav for it to work. Could you please recommend a service (converter) for me to pursue that? My fellow dj is using a windows so the service he uses is not available for macs. Perhaps you know a reliable service for this? cheers, love
I remember doing one of those compressed vs uncompressed tests. I got all of them wrong, meaning I heard enough of a difference but picked the wrong quality and that wasn't on any high-quality gear just regular headphones.
Well, compression (lossy for small size, not gain compression as in a plugin in your DAW) can act like a sight bit of saturation or distortion in some circumstances, which can make things actually sounds "better." So, it's not impossible that you coincidentally listened to a few songs that were made to sound better by the encoding....
I love your videos you have a super kind undertone. Can you tell me the rate of mp3s off beatport? Are they the high good quality mp3s? Thank you!
High quality - if you're buying tracks you're generally ok.
I use mp3 320 bitrate, interesting you mention you could use a wav file on usb and faster load speed.using usb3.0 but does club gear i.e. Older gear have usb 3.0 support?
Loving the videos, keep them coming 👍😊
If the usb "tongue" is blue its probably usb3. You could also look inside the port and see the extra pins.
MP3 320bit for me👍
UA-cam by click gives option to download 320 bit and wave :😊
i mainly have wav files. i was wondering would it be ok to slip in the odd 320 mp3? or would there be a noticable difference.. on a club system??
I used 320 most of the time in clubs and they sounded awesome!!
The quality of the music is not always determined by the kbps. You can get 320 MP3 and WAV files that are crap, I experience this with older tracks when I buy them on DJ pools, Beatport, etc. They need to have some type of disclosure stating what source they are getting these older tracks from, studio quality, copy or kbps rate of original file. Its a waste of time to download a track labeled 320 or WAV only to have it sound distorted and hissy. From a DJing perspective - Newer tracks: you cannot really tell the difference as today's music is pretty good audio quality. From a Producer's perspective - Newer music and pretty much every type of music, you may notice subtle differences and so, you should definitely always go with WAV files.
I've heard m4a is an improved mp3, is it true?
WAV ❤
@M P da
How about aiff
hey, im just a beginner here, what about aiff ?? mp3 to aiff converter ... ??
My question is whats better wav or flac? My library is almost entirely comprised of flac audio....
You never know about the system at a party
Just use wag and be safe
I use a 320kpbs youtube converter, and when I right click and go to details it does say it's in 320kbps.. but now I'm wondering if that's spoofed and how would I know if it's not really that quality?
Use a frequency analyzer like spek. There you cant tell if its real or fake 320kb mp3
M P it is def not 128. If it was 128 you would have MAJOR loss in Top end, that is the first thing I listen for. Top end 14khz and up sound pixelated at lower values.
Most of the stuff that is lost in 320 nobody can hear at the volume in a club due to the Fletcher Munson curve. This is why it is more audible in headphones and on high quality HIFI at Lower output levels
I usually buy my songs from itunes, but when i check the tracks in spek is shows that the majority of my songs is 260 kbps. Will i get better kbps if i use another source like beatport for example?
Yes
The songs from itunes are a different codec aac which sound better than mp3 at a lower bitrate.
WAV files of course sound the best but going off of a size to sound ratio I think FLAC gives the best bang for your buck so to speak.
FLAC is not supported by enough . AIFF Is the winner for me .
Exactly .. that's why I use flac too. And they are tag-able as well.
@@persona250awwww sh*t that sucks for me then.... I ve never had any issues playing flacs on virtual dj pro while using my controller - hercules dj inpulse 500 hence I have never looked into compatibility issues with other software / gear ......
My advice: Buy your music on bandcamp and you have access to all different formats (wav and mp3 included) for the same price :)
And a bigger cut gets to the musicians. Beatport is just a scam in comparision.
Problem with Bandcamp is that you won’t get everything there
@@devawer That's true
If you like electronic music, a subscription to Monstercat Gold is well worth it. Almost the entire library becomes free to download, plus early access and UA-cam licensing, for $5 a month
@@ICTman That sounds really good... will check it for sure! Thanks!
IMO, I think if you're using Pioneer gear, then you can JUST get away with a 320mp3 on a big system. But, if you're using a controller, no matter how good it is (I use an Traktor S8 which is 24 bit, but still doesn't sound as good as a DJM), you should try and use lossless files as none compare with the sound card quality/processing quality of a Pioneer DJM (even if you're routing through one). Using flac files (my preference) won't compromise storage, but I think only the NXS2s and latest XDJ range of Pioneer gear will play them.
Love your work btw ;)
Pioneer sound processing is pretty poor in honesty, Denon do a much better job of sound quality.
@@wez130 I've never used Denon, so my only reference point is Pioneer
@@wez130 Yeah, that's why it's clubstandard. because it's quality is pretty poor. lol
@@MrDaftice no its club standard because of smart marketing, i.e, Pioneer provided free gear in the big clubs for the big DJs to use, a bit like how companies now give free equipment / things to influencers so we all want them. Its well known that Pioneers sound processing is pretty poor compared to its competition. I'll add proof of this soon 😉
What about Mp4 at 320. Same thing?
What about lo-fi house, or tracks which are just poorly produced? I have lots of tracks, which while they are in their original .wav format, sound much more muddied than some medium quality mp3. Would these also not be playable in a club?
I'm not too concerned with the quality of my mp3s, but the fact that you said that one can be kicked out because of low quality, or that it is clearly audible scares me. Some tracks just aren't tight, but they're still fun. Could you still play those?
I guess experiment and see for yourself - some people learn best through experience - it's a tough one. Going forward I guess be mindful of the versions you are downloading.
@@ClubReadyDJSchool I suppose you're right; no way to know for sure until you try. Right now I'm just figuring things out and having fun, but it doesn't hurt to entertain the thought of one day playing at a small party or at my student faculty.
.wav wouldn't load when I played myself produced track on a CDJ so I only use .mp3
Is there any way to convert mp3 to wav or up the bit rate of lower mp3 files?
I think it works the other way around, you downsize wav to MP3, but I am pretty sure you can't upsize MP3 to wav :/
I download different site my mp3 tracks,so how can i recognize it's real 320kbps or not before an event or a party?
If you have Media human converter (free ware, I highly recommend), it can tell you. I believe "song info" in iTunes will also tell you details.
I rip vinyls in wave file .....and it sounds way more better than the MP3 from record pools....record pool will limit your ability to discover rare song if you depend on it because they don't upload new tracks or rear tracks regularly ....I subscribed to BPM Supreme and DJCity and many times I can't find the track I'm looking on both pools
I call it sampling not ripping
@@mv8897 The mastering is different from analogue to digital release.
What about iTunes which uses M4a files? I Buy the majority of my music from there
They are as good as mp3 320kbps
Ahhh..but what about if you have some wav and some mp3????..Based on the discussions, it appears that if you play an MP3 song first then mix into the next song that is a wav file, no one would notice the difference.
I just subsribed to soundeo. I chose to download .wav instead of .mp3
I have been replacing my youtube rips library with flac / wav / aiff. Trust me when i say they are waaaay better on club / festival sound systems.... u do lose on the storage space tho, cuz those audio fikes are massive , up to 5x and more massive 😮
Any way to check your files to see if they are truly 320?
@Marin Pavešić Wow thanks actually, was looking for something like this for a while now
personally i have mostly flac in my dj library with some mp3 & wav but i found out that sometimes the metadata disappears in flac
@M P i download most of my songs from bandcamp and cd rips u can choose ur file format there
That's odd ... I have never had Metadata disappear on my flac files.... could it be that they are corrupted flacs, or, actually wav files that someone changed the file extention to flac 😮😮😮???
Which dj software / audio player do u use to tag ur flac audio?.
I use virtual dj pro, and as for my audio player is use AIMP3. Its pretty straightforward.. never had this issue 😮😮😮