Better to have a sound mind than to think of silly questions and don't question what you believe. They both believe creation happened on its own and they are fine with that despite the evidence. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
@@NoTengoIlusiones Here's what happens when you give an empty person common science they can't contend with, they will completely ignore it and since they are inept human beings that don't care, they will think they have something clever to say that makes it look like they are not as shallow as they are, so this is what is considered a good scientific come back to all the science they were provided: Drumroll, please.... their science....."ufffff messy speech." Yes, I'm serious. I'm not making this up. They are really that empty.
@@2fast2blockWith my short comment obviously I was misunderstood. I'm Atheist, Science man. My comment was regarding your text/comment. I subscribe it, but the text is Long and messy. Just be more concise on this small text boxes ( aka comments).
@@TheBebe666well to be honest its not self explanatory, non-believer is self explanatory atheist is not. Its explanation is unclear to a lot of people because many people find it hard to separate between ideas of an agnostic and an atheist. Since atheism in and itself is a belief its definition can vary based on a person to person basis. I’ve met people who believe there is some wacky-power that initialised creation , also believe in evolution, also believe in soul but don’t believe in any religion or a God in any traditional way. Some believe nature itself should be considered as a God or the sun since everything comes from it but also don’t give the Sun any anthropomorphic characteristics nor think it has any will and know its just a gaseous ball emitting heat and light yet they want to worship it as the creator!😂 people are different and tge question above I think could have come from a person who believes atheism to be a personal belief customised to ones understanding of the universe, you can’t blame someone for that!
As an atheist kid (with atheist parents) growing up in a foreign deeply catholic country, I was always attacked and discriminating for asking and being curious. And like Ricky, when people told me I shouldn't question, it only made me want to question more!
And look how you supposedly question more but you're still a doofus like Ricky and RD. "People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like “it’s true to me” and “it’s faith." Ricky Gervais Ricky does not know what biblical faith is because he just does not care to know. Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Ricky can't even explain the start, creation, and yet he acts so smugly. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God. God is the reason for us and all we have. ua-cam.com/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/v-deo.html “However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins. The odds are NOT there. ua-cam.com/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/yW9gawzZLsk/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ddaqSutt5aw/v-deo.html
I had a friend who's mother was deeply Christian. Another friend and I tried to ask her why she believes what she believes. She not only didn't have an answer, she got angry and threw us out of her house.
@@2fast2block "We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God." How can a supernatural lawgiver give those laws in the first place without having his own set of laws for his own existence? Therefore even if there was a God it could be explained with Science (but possibly not our current understanding of it). Then the question becomes what created that God and therefore at best it's highly improbable that there is a God as you might as well cut of the middle man so to speak.
@@od9170 Asking how God was created makes no sense. Clearly creation had to be done by a supernatural creator. A supernatural who created the natural realm of time, space, and matter, along with the natural laws that govern it, is not bound by the natural laws the supernatural creator created. That's basic logic but not if people are NOT logical.
@@2fast2block I'm not saying it would be bound by the natural laws it created. The first sentence of my comment was "How can a supernatural lawgiver give those laws in the first place without having his own set of laws for his own existence?". If you're saying that God can just exist (no questions asked) then why can't you apply that way of thinking to the "thing" the Universe sits within? If you're saying that God cannot just exist then I refer to my original comment "How can a supernatural lawgiver give those laws in the first place without having his own set of laws for his own existence?" and if this is the case it can therefore be explained with Science. I understand how you come to the conclusion that there must be a God but your argument is illogical for the reasons given above.
@@ms33pt Or how about we just let people live their goddamn lives? This is the only life we’re guaranteed to have; if people want to focus their energy on actually enjoying their godless lives instead of adhering to soul-sucking, arbitrary dogma, then all the power to them!
I like what Dawkins brings to the table. Very eye opening. EXCEPT, modern science allows us to bring people back from dead literally.. Beyond Thousands of NDE's that all correlate regardless of types of religions. Sure the mind is "just brains" as Dawkins states, but how can these people hover above their body as it is "pronounced dead" ? Science has no way to put these near death experiences to test. So at the end of the day it is faith*
@@olebilly how does a person hover over there dead body.. WELL I have been dead before so I can have my 2 cents. I believe it's the same reason aliens travel billions of light years to do anal probes and abductions no one else has ever witnessed. It's a mass delusion that came about at the same time as people invented the soul of men.. and the I never seen the bright light at the end of the tunnel or jesus waiting for me either. So peoples preconceived notions of what they believe others want to hear. Lies, lies and more lies. Funny how millions have seen ghosts but not one single person has the slightest real proof of there sightings. Funny that.
It is amazing to me that, here we have one man's common sense and realistic outlook on life wrapped in good humor, lining up with another man's life long scientific work regarding life and death. Every time Richard agreed with Ricky it boosted my admiration for Ricky. If only more of us had good common sense. Credit to these men. We need these men more now than ever.
Another good one is Dawkins in conversation with Tim Minchin, who funnily enough is also an incredibly well educated man. More so than Ricky I would say but I highly recommend checking it out as well as the comedy works of Tim Minchin. Tim is also the composer and lyricist of 2 major Broadway musicals, Matilda and Groundhog day. Tim is a phenomenal composer and a master pianist
Common sense is deducing the that when there was the lack of matter and from this nothingness our universe was created, we are derived from Prehistoric apes into humans with critical thought, empathy and a sense of right and wrong and we are the only species that has ever evolved into highly intelligent beings. Bacteria Flagella are complex organisms that without every single component that is part of it it would not work, just like any other mechanism like in a combustible engine without the starter, fuel pump etc. I feel that many of these swaggering athiests belittle, poke fun and do the exact thing many hipochristians do and make the other out as dumb or superstitious and christians label athiests as worthless sinners who hate anyone that practices religion (I have seen hypocrites and egotistical bullies. At least Athiests have a valid reason because of their belief or lack therof but us Christians only help thwir case by not showing live amd kindness even wj Hen it isn't reciprocated😊
Every mentally healthy human being has common sense. The problem is that in so many cultures common sense is a threat against their current status quo and power structure.
@ IBS (haha - I see what you did there - very funny) - Dawkins appeared on Ricky's podcast a few years ago - that was the first time I realised how intelligent and well informed he was. They seem genuinely fond of each other.
@Jiren-the-Grey it's the same reason the simpsons have predicted so much that has happened, its been on the air for almost 35 years and when something is on for a very long time then many predictions are bound to come true. It has everything to do with maths and statistics and absolutely nothing to do with some invisible sky daddy
Yahuah will destroy the elements themselves when he destroys this earth and cosmos- a very scientific statement. Will you be in the new earth? Have You Heard the True Good Message truerevival.yolasite.com/have-you-heard-the-true-gospel.php 2Pe_3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of Elohim, wherein the shamayim ( pw heavens) being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
I forget where I heard it but it's the best response to the question "What do you think it's like after you die? The answer was "do you remember what it was like before you were born? It's like that."
I'd think those that are aborted by having them ripped apart is memorable. ua-cam.com/video/WKv5ABgqPTw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ESqdmQFTNhE/v-deo.html
Many of us have fallen prey (no pun intended) to believing in a God that doesn't exist. Until we do our OWN thinking on this can we re-program our minds. I gew up a Protestant and have never been a religious person, but my parents believed in God. I did too for a long time. I don't anymore. There's to much evidence to me that there isn't one.
I have left Islam about 3-4 years ago! I am so happy and proud to be able to get out of such an indoctrination. It really is difficult to get out of this bubble we were born into.
@@berry9653 I'm against man-made religions with no foundation. God is not a religion. You have your own man-made religion of atheism. It's believing in things you have no proof for. It's a blind faith. Watch this, how can creation happen on its own? Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. Show me how you got around those laws and have proof to back you up.
@@2fast2block u say fools resort to science fiction yet you yourself are resorting to a supernatural. Why do you think science should have the answers to life, universe and everything. We are mortal humans with small brains. Life is a mystery and there is much we dont know. No one is saying with certainty what happened with the big bang. We're just saying we dont know yet :) Its all theories, and so is your god. A theory, that has many inconsitencies.
Never liked him to be honest until his show Afterlife ( man had me in tears with the writing in it) ....and Now I'm actually learning more from him about religion than any other person ever..
Love him, as a theist. And Dawkins. The power to be so respectful and calm in tight debates, as well as being able to have humor like this is a great skill.
@@pydzio Exactly. And, on top of that, I wouldn't say nowadays anyone is particularly afraid to express their opinion, unless they live under an oppressive regime or belong to a particular community from which they don't want to be excluded for contradicting its moral or spiritual views. In today's world the leading reason people hide or manipulate facts for is greed.
Dawkins deserves enormous credit, as do Gervais, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and many others for taking on religious dogma and its often brutal oppression, but we should recognize the even greater courage of people like Bertrand Russell and G. H. Hardy for saying they were atheists when it was dangerous to do so even in England. Russell's writing on the subject are timeless, and as true today as they were a hundred years ago.
@@davesteadman1226 What god would you pray to? there are over a hundred now, which one is the right one? maybe everyone goes to hell of some sort, because the real religion was snuffed out thousands of years ago? Just in case... you're better off not worshiping anyone, just so you don' pray to the wrong god.
@@therealpanse *What god would you pray to? there are over a hundred now, which one is the right one? maybe everyone goes to hell of some sort, because the real religion was snuffed out thousands of years ago?* Or maybe the right god hasn't been "discovered" yet...
@A Human Being Hope for things you know to be possible. Hoping to win the lottery makes more sense - infinitely more, in fact - than hoping for a heaven because we have *confirmable examples* of people having won the lottery.
innit. it especially annoys me when muslims use that argument. the quran is very clear on what happens to religious hypocrites. they'll receive a punishment worse than idolators, it says. because idolators are at least honest
It doesn't add up because you don't think. Neither do these jokes. Richard Dawkins teaches the universe came from "literally nothing." Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't get anything from "literally nothing." We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
@user-lc6ed8zs7f But Atheism is irrational. It flies in the face of everything we are surrounded by but not only that, even who we are as human beings.
Yeah, Ricky will joke, but he's the real joke. "People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like “it’s true to me” and “it’s faith." Ricky Gervais Ricky does not know what biblical faith is because he just does not care to know. Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Ricky can't even explain the start, creation, and yet he acts so smugly. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God. God is the reason for us and all we have. ua-cam.com/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/v-deo.html “However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins. The odds are NOT there. ua-cam.com/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/yW9gawzZLsk/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ddaqSutt5aw/v-deo.html
@@2fast2block real science DOES NOT IN ANY WAY say "everything we see must fit with what we know already" the scientific theory is quite literally about constantly attempting to disprove everything we think we know. I don't agree with Ricky on everything but he has a brilliant quote that roughly goes "If we burned every religious text on earth and then left it for 1000 years, none of those texts would come back. Because the basis for them is nothing. But if we burned every scientific text and left for a 1000 years each one would be back exactly as they were before because all the same tests would heed the same results". Obviously a 1000 years is a bit short but you get the idea. I personally think there is probably a god (or at the very least there is a being out there somewhere that could be interpreted as such) but I don't think a single religion on earth will ever ever ever come close to representing them. The very idea that anyone thinks they know exactly what a diety wants is insane.
@It's not looking good well I see that some of my replies are shadow banned but not my original one. The reason you skipped it and didn't even attempt to prove me wrong is because you know you can't so you just want to mouth off as you can't give any evidence to back up your claim.
Maybe but I think Chappelle is right there too, since he's come back to stand up he's been all about real stuff not the silly stuff he did with the Chapelle show
@@pentuplove6542 are you just saying "oppress" is a verb? Cos you are right, but his statement is then only slightly incorrect really... it would work as a statement if he said: "I'd be oppressed in 13 countries that I would never go to anyway"
@@pentuplove6542 sure. And black people don’t get shot by police in the us because I am black, I have met police and I live. Also I ate bread today - world hunger is not true. Examples are really hard to grasp, one must be very clear if giving an example.
Jesus took upon Himself our sin and died in our stead, so that we may live, and demonstrated that we can live without sin by allowing Him to live in us through His Spirit.
@Scott Scotty I can't find my response to you now so I will answer your, what was the sacrifice? question. Jesus has always been the Son of God, before and after the sacrifice. When Adam and Eve sinned (disobeyed God) they became separated from God, Isaiah 59:2 "But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He will not hear." God is holy He cannot embrace nor condone sin, and the word holy means set apart, and that's what happened when Adam and Eve chose to sin, they separated themselves from God. So being our original parents the consequences were that the separation affected their offspring including you and I. The Bible also says that, "the wages of sin is death." Romans 6:23, and they were told that if they took from the tree of knowledge of good and evil they would surely die, Genesis 2:17. Now, God could have put them to death, but He didn't. Instead He sent His Son and His Son was willing to come and live as a human among us, and take our sins upon Himself. Imagine that, a sinless being, the Son of God, leaving His heavenly abode coming to earth to live as a man among men, then taking upon His shoulders all the sins of the world. It was the sin that killed Jesus, not the fact of being nailed to the cross. But before He got to the cross He was humiliated, put on trial, punched, spat upon, whipped with bits of spiked metal attached to the whip, which tore into His flesh, and tore the flesh, probably to the bone. Then His body being in a very weak and painful state, He was made to carry His cross and at the place of the crucifixion, He was nailed to the cross, a crown of thorns pressed onto His head. Then when He was lifted up attached to the cross, it would have been dropped with a thud into the hole that it stood in, then to have a spear thrust into His side. You ask, what was the sacrifice? We haven't finished yet, as though all that wasn't enough already, He cried out "Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me." It was the very weight of sin that separates that made Jesus cry out. Also apparently and understandably, the position that He was in on that cross made it difficult to breath and Jesus every so often had to place His weight on His feet, and in agony try to lift Himself in order to take a breath. Eventually He said, "Father into your hands I commend my Spirit," then He died. Crucifixion was a barbaric way to die, the pain was excruciating, from which we get the word crucifixion. So Jesus suffered and died for you and me but He could have decided not to, He could have summoned a legion of angels to come to His rescue, but He didn't, had He done so there would be no hope for anyone. What was the sacrifice? I believe one word would suffice....IMMEASURABLE!! Then on the third day, God the Father raised His only begotten son from the dead.....HALLELUJAH!!
Everyone is a sinner, but you can be saved by God's grace through the sacrifice of His Son on Calvary. However, Jesus came to show that by His grace and by having His Spirit abiding in us, it is possible to live without sinning. It is only having a perfect character that is going to admit us into His Kingdom. So Jesus did not die for nothing, as you put it.
@Scott Scotty We can all make claims that may not be actually true. You said that you are familiar with the doctrine, I question what doctrine you are referring to? You should have seen from what I communicated to you, that the sacrifice was..... 1. The perfect sinless Jesus left His heavenly abode to come and dwell among imperfect sinful, unworthy, human beings. 2. Jesus laboured for three and a half years, trying to teach these heart hardened humans, to whom they owed their existence, from whence they came, why they are here, and where they are going, (eternal life or eternal death). 3. After revealing His love and the love of His Father for humanity, and performing many miracles, they put Jesus to death in the most cruel way. 4. While on the cross Jesus experienced the weight of humanities sin, to the extent that He felt eternal separation from His Father, which is the end result of sin for anyone. 5. If Jesus had decided not to go through with it, none of us would be here. So that was the ultimate sacrifice, Jesus actually died in our stead, that we may have life, not just this life but eternal life, if we accept His sacrifice, and allow God's Spirit to live within us that we may be fit for God's Kingdom. 6 The fact that God the Father raised His Son from death does not deminish the death that Jesus experienced.
I'm religious, and it's nothing to do with anyone else. It's personal. I love Ricky and Richard. They are both intelligent, thoughtful, thought-provoking authors/speakers. A delightful session. 😁
I respect your views and all points of view. The problem I have with Dawkins etc. is that science cannot prove or disprove a god or superior being or entity.
As a matter of fact science, nor logic, can’t disprove the existance of unicorns, lr anything that doesn’t exist, it can only eventually prove what exists.
@@alessandropetrozzino8747 my point exactly, just because science can't prove the existence of something, does not mean it does not exist! Maybe science does not have the ability/skill yet! So until you disprove it you can't say it doesn't exist!
@@alessandropetrozzino8747 “Unicorns” Awww how quaint the “unicorn” argument versus the belief in the fundamental nature of [Mind and consciousness/monotheism/rationality/logos/objective morality]. I prefer the tooth fairy argument myself with Dwayne Johnson in lead role!! Please do the tooth fairy argument next time!! It’s a much higher IQ argument than the “unicorn” argument!! If only you could have been around during the time of Michelle Besso, Sir Francis Bacon, John Henslow, Dostoyevsky, Kepler, Newton, Thomas Aquinas, Anselmo d’Aosta, Miguel de Cervantes, Charles Dickens, Shakespeare, Augustine, Emanuel Kant, Gregor Mendel, George Lemaitre, Descartes, Kierkegaard and Hegel etc you could have saved them all from their misguided belief in the fundamental nature of [Mind and consciousness/monotheism/rationality/logos/objective morality] with your Earth shattering “unicorn” argument!! Equally, the prominent Humanist and philosopher professor Michael Ruse helpfully pointed out that… “Their [the new atheists]” which includes (Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennette and Richard Dawkins ) “treatment of the religious viewpoint is pathetic to the point of non-being. Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion would fail any introductory philosophy or religion course.” (Michael Ruse: Professor and Specialist in Philosophy of Biology). “Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion -- a full-fledged alternative to Christianity.” (Michael Ruse). “The literalists are absolutely right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.” (Michael Ruse).
@@alessandropetrozzino8747 “Science, nor logic can’t disprove unicorns” This is beyond ironic!! Sorry but the “natural sciences” are saturated with philosophical presuppositions, that is unprovable metaphysical presuppositions and transcendental categories such as (Truth) itself, that is value claims, the prescriptive laws of logic, (conscious agents and freewill, that is rationality itself), inductive reasoning, identify over time, space, time, being, the one and the many, empiricism, the myth of the given etc!! (Gotcha!!!) You seriously haven’t done your homework buddy!! Furthermore, despite appearances, the “natural sciences” offers no certainty. Decades of progress in the philosophy of science have led us to accept that our prevailing scientific understanding is a limited time offer, valid only until a new observation or experiment proves that it’s not. Equally, it turns out to be impossible even to formulate a scientific theory without metaphysics, without first assuming some things we can’t actually prove, such as the existence of an objective reality, conscious agents and freewill, that is rationality itself, the prescriptive laws of logic and empiricism etc. Not to mention identity over time, the myth of the given, the one and the many, time, space, cause and effect. Sorry but science can’t “prove” anything as it is provisional and can only infer. As I pointed out already it’s a constantly changing landscape regarding what (is) not what (ought) to be. Equally, the belief that the future will be like the past is a metaphysical presupposition, that is a transcendental category. Furthermore, according to Karl Popper, who created the principle of falsification in the first place because logical positivism was self refuting and we needed a way to delineate between empirical and non empirical modes of knowledge and understanding, according to Popper… “The belief that science proceeds from observation to theory is still so widely and so firmly held that my denial of it is often met with incredulity” (Karl Popper)… Karl Popper goes on to point out the obvious fact that…. “Observation is always selective. It needs a chosen object, a definite task, an interest, a point of view, a problem. And its description presupposes a descriptive language, with property words; it presupposes similarity and classification, which in their turn presuppose interests, points of view, and problems”(Karl Popper). Everything Karl Popper lists here such as (observation/empiricism), a description language with property words and classifications, not to mention the belief that the future will be like the past, even these are philosophical, that is unprovable metaphysical presuppositions and transcendental categories that can not be proven, justified or grounded using this strictly reductive, causally closed, effectively complete, atheistic nihilistic b…sht that clearly excludes metaphysical realities. The fact is that what we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our limited sensory organs and current knowledge and method of questioning. According to Karl Popper.... “Scientists should be humble as a prediction can change from one moment to the next, unfortunately there is corruption since scientists started getting subsidies.” (Karl Popper). You seriously haven’t done your homework buddy!!
People didn't invent gods. In fact people haven't really 'invented' anything. Literally, everything emanates from the collective unconscious. Unfortunately, a real and pragmatic understanding of this concept is beyond this panel of two, mainly because they believe they know everything worth knowing. Ego will be humanities undoing.
@@straightline76 "they believe they know everything worth knowing" They spend a decent amount of time in this video saying the exact opposite. Did you even watch it?
@@topologyrob well when you become one of the worlds leading skeptics i might listen to you. Till then, why waste time commenting on UA-cam, change the world and turn science on its head.
@@topologyrob Why would I bother to try to understand religion; I don't try to understand Astrology, or Homeopathy. When the basis for something is obvious crap, is it worth wasting any time on it.
@@topologyrob I've had 70 years of experience. I find it difficult to believe that any person who has studied science in any depth would consider the existence of any god to be a serious proposition. Studying nonsense is not scholarship. Believing in any religion is wallowing in a childish swamp of braindeath. You seem to define scholarship as studying religion. I must disagree; it's just a waste of effort.
Dex Aetheists have been the biggest killers in mankinds history Hitler,Mao,Stalin.Pol Pot killed over 200m and you can add Dr Mengele why listen to these fools together.DOH
@@Jack-fs2im Despite the fact that your comment is really quite laughable, I feel compelled to correct you about Hitler who was a dedicated catholic and believed he was doing god's work.
DopeyDonald Trump no your the comic Hitler was a fanatical atheist enacting natural selection and survival if the fittest and with Mengele.hahaga here suck up the truth ir just stay stupid en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
I am Indian exmuslim, I listened a lot of rationalist people and understand basics of science and I realised religion is fake after leaving of Islam earlier I was little bit sad there is no heaven after life but ok now I am happy 😊
All life is Energy ⛮ & energy never dies ❤ After a lifetime of searching, I experienced a NDE, Near Death Experience, I popped out of my body, wonderful experience. I came back inside my body, & remembered that "It doesn't matter if you are loved in this life, only that you love ❤😊 Happy 😊 Atheist 😊
Learning evolution ? Still no evidence You dont know how the world began,so science can explain things, but not all, btw science believed the earth was flat before
it destroyed his brain. What' Dawkins' excuse then? Richard Dawkins teaches the universe came from "literally nothing." Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't get anything from "literally nothing." We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. God is the reason for us and all we have. ua-cam.com/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/v-deo.html “However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins. We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God. The odds are NOT there. ua-cam.com/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/yW9gawzZLsk/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ddaqSutt5aw/v-deo.html No, the eye did not evolve into various eyes. Your mere chance mutations are absurd. ua-cam.com/video/X7h2HWcTwa4/v-deo.html Even Dawkins admits we can't know what is true because of natural selection... The God Delusion, “Since we are creatures of natural selection, we cannot totally trust our senses. Evolution only passes on traits that help a species survive, and not with preserving traits that tell a species what is actually true about life.” Oh, but Dawkins knows what's true about life...killing those who don't meet his expectations for living. dailycaller.com/2021/05/19/richard-dawkins-down-syndrome-roe-v-wade/
So according to Hitchens if it was not for religion to point out what is morality wrong, then it would be ok to do anything you want? Yet governments do the same thing? Gods morals are consistent, yet governments laws are always changeable. So if you take god given rights away, then you have laws that conflict with one another.
@@exit5620 I see what you're saying.. communism and fascism aren't religions, yet between them they killed well over 100 million people.. No religion has ever killed that many.. Hitchens has got beef with religion, I see that. But I think the bone he's trying to pick really lies deeper in man than religion. We'd be shitty even without it
@@schnibbler6085 I guess it all depends on your definition of "religion", and hence not truly worth debating. But if you take religion as all encompassing narratives that contain unverifiable metaphysical assertions intended to guide behavior. Then yes, communism, fascism, liberalism... are religions. Moreover, I would say that the "hate" for the theistic religions and the distaste for the mere word "religion" is just an indicator of the defeat of the theistic religions by the secular ones.
@@FilosSofo So in this view then every man has a religion, including Hitchens. (as narratives must not necessarily be written to be adhered to). Hitchens would have vehemently denied that he is "religious", though he also believed in metaphysical assertions that also cannot be verifiable. Science must also be metaphysically interpreted. Hitchens meant supernatural deities and the dogma that goes along with it. Not the idols created by man, as he then would also fall into the category of worshipping one.
HolyMith and if that bullet was directed at someone else, and you had a bullet proof vest on? His argument is for bullets directed at ideas, not other people. I call out sexism and racism because, as a white male, I'm not emotionally injured by them, multiple scientific papers in psychology have shown other white males are more likely to listen to me, and it's the right thing to do.
@@Jay-jn6ul You missed the point. The proverbial bullets weren't aimed at anyone. He is referring to people searching for reasons to take offence, often on behalf of others who may or may not even be offended themselves. By your own admission, you "call out racism and sexism" because you have never experienced it yourself. I have no problem with people doing this, so long as they have actual evidence and reasoning behind it. Unfortunately, that is rarely the case in today's climate, rather it amounts to little more than witch hunting. As a side note, if you think a white male can't experience racism or sexism, you have misunderstood the very words themselves.
HolyMith nope, you've clearly missed the point and tried to make what he's saying fit into what you want to believe. Honestly I expected better thinking on an atheist video but here we are. He literally says he is attacking ideas, not people, and you choose to ignore that? Gervais doesn't makes sexist or racist jokes, because he knows they are offensive, regardless of whether the people mot affected by them call him out on it or their allies do. It's pretty tiring to be a woman and always have to call out sexism so sometimes it helps for men to do it too. Also I have a social psychology degree so I've literally studied the definitions of these things. They have systems attached to them, power dynamics. If I go to some female dominated society where all the women are women of colour and I am treated like a stereotype, denied jobs and constantly undermined because of my sex and race then yep, they'd be being racist and sexist towards me. In the western world now saying a joke at the expense of my race or gender does not oppress me in any way. It's not racism, it's not sexism. These things have bigger meanings than you're attaching to them, probably because you're so keen to try and find the people who are not arguing genuinely against them rather than seeing the reality. You're suiting your own worldview and being comfortable in it, dismissing genuine concerns with society just because you can't, or won't see them. Probably because they don't affect you. Well do some research on google scholar, look up some scientific papers on, among other things, identical CV's not making it to the second round of a job interview if they're entitled with ethnic sounding names or female names, and then get back me. I bet when you watched Christopher Hitchens' video defending free speech you misunderstood that too. He defends free speech as long as it doesn't cause harm, like yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Gervais is defending literally talking about firing bullets at ideas and you're twisting it to when those bullets are fired at people. Bye.
@@Jay-jn6ul Gervais makes offensive jokes because they are funny and he (naively) hopes that people don't take it too seriously and just have a laugh. People like you, who are ever-eager to get outraged and justify their farcical degree, are the ones he is referring to. He is making jokes, you are getting mad about it because you *want* to get mad about it, rather than just viewing it as comedy. You are trying to shoehorn your social preferences into comedy, where it simply doesn't belong. Someone makes a joke about rape? I might laugh, but that doesn't mean I think rape is okay, and I hope you have figured that out already. Employers are free to employ whoever the hell they want. It is their business and if they hire poorly, the business will suffer. If someone doesn't want to hire a foreign person because their english skills may be lacking, or a woman because it's a physically demanding job, then they are entitled to do so. You can't force businesses to hire people you want them to hire. Free speech should be defended up to the point of inciting violence and oppression, and people take extreme liberties with those criteria nowadays. This is the heart of the issue: people need to chill the fuck out and stop seeing the oppression boogeyman everywhere.
Not to get to deep, but in reality, it's even worse than that. I mean technically, you can't "jump in front of a bullet." By the time you could perceive the gunshot, the bullet is a half mile past you. So the people claiming outrage, in fact, weren't even the ones being shot at, nor do they know why the shot was fired. They have nothing in the game, and weren't even there, but yet they still claim outrage as if they were -- and sadly we listen to them, as if they were there or know the slightest thing about what they speak of.
When I go shopping, I always put a string of garlic around my neck! I dunno about vampires, but it does keep away creepy men! ...except some Italian men.
@@Redman680 Hello? Just stay away from my ex-sister-in-law Bunny. She reports all these UA-cam creeps to me- and right now, guess who appears to be #1. My axe is made of Titanium-Steel, and it is razor sharp. If Bunny wishes, I can easily deal with such people. And I do not need garlic, little man..
Best religion ever that i was taught by my fantastic parents. If you go through life trying to treat people the way you would like to be treated, you won't go far wrong.
Except not everyone wants to be treated the way you want to be treated “One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.” ― Jane Austen, Emma
Interesting, this is the Golden Rule, you find it in the Bible, Matthew 7:12 (NASB95): 12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you"
Probably my favourite quote, what Hitchens actually said was “If someone tells me that I've hurt their feelings, I say, 'I'm still waiting to hear what your point is"
Get this bit right, atheism is when you tell me I need God I tell you I can get along perfectly well without him. - Hitchens. He was never a physicist or philosopher. The laws of nature require an ongoing cause, an end of the line of explanation, a singular concurrent cause, self-explaining, identifiable as God. He needs to show a Self-sustaining Source for all reality. It's in his own proof for atheism: 1. If God exists then God is all good and the Source for all reality. 2. Evil is real but cannot come directly from God (Who says? where's the *_LOGIC_* here?!). 3. Therefore God does not exist (no, the only supporting premise can't support this conclusion, and 1. is not really a scientific principle or a law that can be tied to the supporting premise in the conclusion. So, Hitchens claim of atheism has been vacated.
@@oursecretlord9008 how can a non-belief be vacated? Your comment is incredibly confused. There is nothing in nature that requires anything to identify as a "God" that is a human invention.
“Probably my favourite quote what Hitchens actually said was”. “If someone tells me that Iv hurt their feelings, I say, I’m still waiting to hear what your point is”. No offence intended but I think the bereaved families of the innocent civilians who died in the Iraq war, a war that Hitchens actually supported would beg to differ. Similarly, Dawkins lack of sensitivity to the suffering and feelings of the bereaved families who lost loved ones under eugenics in WW2 leaves most normal people very uncomfortable and suspicious to say the least?. According to Dawkins “It’s one thing to deplore eugenics on ideological, political, moral grounds. It’s quite another to conclude that it wouldn’t work in practice. Of course it would. It works for cows, horses, pigs, dogs & roses. Why on earth wouldn’t it work for humans? Facts ignore ideology” (Richard Dawkins). Responding to a woman who said that she would face a real ethical dilemma if she became pregnant with a baby with Down’s syndrome, Dawkins advice was: “Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice.” Under pressure from huge public outrage, Dawkins issued one of his usual non-apology apologies leading to more public distrust and damage to scientific authority. Dawkins has become so obsessed with attacking religion and promoting the worship of (facts) “science”, he has lost sight of what we should be defending. Similarly, his “humanist” supporters also place the category “human” quite a long way down their order of importance, with things such as rationality, choice and discomfort. Human life can thus be easily traded away using their superior intellect and some emotionless utilitarian calculation. Interestingly, when it comes to eugenics, religion has a much more humane and better track record at defending the human than “science”. I hope I haven’t caused offence. However if Iv hurt your feelings.. “I’m still waiting to hear what you’re point is” All the best to you and keep safe during this Corona virus crisis.
@@oursecretlord9008 You mix things up a bit. What are quotes? They need to be identified as quotes. Which are your thoughts or beliefs need to be adressed as such. For me as a reader it is completely surreal what you mean. And sure you will say it is because i....etc. But it's not me, if you want to get your point across you have to state clearly what is a phrasing of Dawkins or Hitchens for that matter. I see you tried. And you hjave to tackle them point per point. I fail to see where your thought begins and another ends.
I'm here to apologize and to thank to a great man that I've never met Richard Dawkins. Few years ago I was practicing Islam, as a person who had different point of view I was criticizing Richard Dawkins. I felt like that was a right thing to do, "defend my faith" But one day by mistake I have watched something about mutations. It got me interested... And then I went to mosque and asked my Imam about what he thinks about evolution etc. His replies were typical for an imam - oh you know, big bang etc. And who created big bang? And I was like... No this is not enough, this answer doesn't give me the satisfaction So one day someone told me this "Look we found out scientifically how big is our galaxy, then other galaxies that we can observe - our planet look like nothing else, nothing really special in that amazingly large cosmos, do you think someone would create something and then bothered to do all these bullshit that religions are talking about?" From that moment I realised that to believe in something that stupid I had to be stupid, then I realized that was my point of view of the world, that was my bubble with everything easy and everything explained. I have realised that every religion out there and philosophy if not based on evidences or is opposite science is all bullshit Now I want to thank Richard Dawkins for the information that he left in this world, I'm reading now Selfish Gene and few other books and I can say there is nothing more amazing than science. I wish I was better student in my class when I was younger there is loads of stuff I don't know and I want to know.
@ Scorpion - don't worry about not being a good student at school - you have your whole life to learn - I am a 60 year old embarking on a PhD. Oh, and thank you for sharing your story - I can't begin to understand how difficult it must be to find your way out of religion as you have.
_Scorpion,_ I don't think theists are stupid, just misled (and often in a "bubble" like you said). That's why it's important to me to try to help them out of those beliefs (and at the same time I also try to listen seriously to what they have to say, to make sure I'm not in a "bubble" of my own!).
@@majmage Yes we were all misleaded at some point in our life. But because I was raised in this kin of environment it make me se see faith or religion as a virtue as something everyone has, that it is normal to have faith and to to be week not having a faith... Now I see that... To understand science you have to know that you will die, as everyone - you will die and you won't live second time... No one will. Then science comes to people's saying " you will die, but if you reproduce your genes will survive, that makes your "code" immortal but you as you with all your experience... You will die. So live your life and learn and use it best as you can.
@@scorpion8375 Yeah true. Also the things that make us "live forever" aren't just genes. It's everything we do in life! All the people who invented the technologies (electricity, the internet, LED displays) that let us communicate to each other _are still improving our lives today,_ even if they're dead. That means that everything we do in life matters. That includes things that don't seem like they matter: after all, somebody grew the food and cooked it for Ben Franklin (who invented electricity) and _those people are also responsible for our electricity._ So even things that seem less important echo through eternity.
@@majmage Yes, agree on this one but I'll never invent anything I'm afraid 😅 - for now I take baby steps to understand world. For me leaving religion/faith (basically fairy tales) was like a start of new life.
The invention of lying is a firm favotite of mine. Funny, sad, interseting, and usually sparks a good conversation afterwards (and the occasional argument) 😂😂😂❤
Well, one can't EXPERTLY and consistantly push peoples buttons without understanding and emphasizing with them. Lots of Americans only know Gervais from his Golden globes presentations where he is in pure scathing mode. Maybe they've seen some of his stand up performances where he navigates through meticulously written comedy which is by turns confronting and absurdist, all the while being so intelligent and critical yet relatable. But if people watch his T.V shows and movies there exists a common thread through all of them of raw human emotion with an emphasis on friendship, kindness and everyday bravery. ❤Gervais😆
Somehow, I see Christ coming out in Ricky constantly. His love for nature / animals / Humanity. His high intellect, Jesus is in there, Ricky just can't see HIM
"Am I optimistic? Well, I've got nothing to fear." This is my favorite part of becoming an atheist. No more fear. No more giving a damn what the skydaddy thinks or what's going to happen to me when I die or what happens when other people die. I felt so unburdened when I finally admitted to myself that I no longer believed and slowly realized everything that meant.
@@daviddeida do we not have free will? You chose to come to the comments to insult someone, and I chose to come here and ask you a question. So once again, do we not have free will?
@@_goyonder_4899 Using the scientific method,the same method for dismissing God,there is no evidence you have free will at all.You are a meat puppet. Choices are made by your genes and conditioning ,which you did not choose,before you are even conscious of the choice.The person you call yourself is an illusion, a construct.Do your research,Sam Harris is but one of many scientists who have come to this realization.I would'nt call "Satan is happy " as insulting him at all,so an apology would be warranted and accepted with such an accusation.
I got to the 6th or 7th grade. I got introduced to all the sciences and I got answers to questions that were backed by evidence. I finally came across something that can provide actually satisfactory answers and not just cling to the same version of words to explain how the world works. That was the year I gave up on my religion / gods. I'm an Indian so it was hard explaining everyone why but I did it anyway. Has to be the best decision of my life. So liberating.
Your personal beliefs are yours, I respect all opinions. However, science cannot prove or disprove a god/superior being/entity what ever you want to cal it.
@@gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors Exactly!! The fact is that most forms of organized atheism are attempts to fashion God surrogates. In other words, one of the paradoxes of contemporary atheism is that it’s a flight from a genuinely godless world. It is a flight away from relativism/moral subjectivism!!
@@gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors thats what atheism is... Leaving the gap of knowledge.....as just gap until we find out or atleast try to find or may be it will remain unknown forever Filling the gap with fairies has as much as chances of being right as any shit you can imagine.....which is infinite Asking someone to disprove a theory which has no proof is the lowest level of logic possible.
@@anearthian894 what I'm saying is there is NO prove either way, so it is one person thinking/believing what ever they. In other words, no one is right or wrong!
This is exactly what needed to show up in my recommendations and lift me up while in quarantine. I do have to admit that I am jealous of seeing a crowd of people together (pre-COVID) to watch Dawkins and Gervais.
Especially with all of the backsliding we're seeing with the US administration. It's really scary seeing the shift. If the Republicans win again in November, the danger of a Handmaiden's Tale style country is becoming all too real.
Aaron NoneYa Indisputable. It is no wonder that Trump loves uneducated people, without them he’d be rumbled and never have been elected. Ignorance is a plague.
@@jenkem4464 And what do you get if the dems win and put a demented puppet in place? You are blind in one eye if you think biden is somehow holier than trump.
Ricky Gervais and Richard Dawkins go without saying, my admiration and all that towards them two.... The host/presenter of this presentation is one of the beat ive seen on any platform, just works so well with these two, but is also witty in his own right. Amd most of all just lets the guests speak aswell. I want to find more videos of this host. Overall fantastic, great presentation
Loving Ricky calling out *dogma* , "Dogma's the dangerous bit and it doesn't just exist in religion, it exists in more and more places now, that cult is in the _that which shouldn't be questioned_ ...if someone says you shouldn't question this, oh you've got to, you've got to question it." 👈 YES.
@@tonyboleno8191 what I mean is that even if the questioning leads one to fall. If this is the truth, you'd think that the Christians have a good chance to re believe.
I remember purchasing the "Planet Earth" documentary series and hearing Oprah's voice instead of Sir Attenborough's. I immediately took the boxset back for a refund, and ordered the proper one online. Sir Attenborough is not only a british treasure, but a world treasure.
Ricky hits on a very good point about people not being able to grasp the scale of time involved with things like evolution and natural development, random chance, etc. Even some scientists struggle with this.
@@GetMoGaming What?! 😂 Struggle with the universe? Not a chance. Christians do not struggle with the universe. We understand it, and the one who created it. It’s Atheists who struggle with the universe. Christians have God and science. Science is God’s gift to us, as is the intelligence to understand it. Humans have not endowed themselves with intelligence.
I agree and to add on to that. If people didn't invent freewill and sources of objective morality, Dawkins would be wasting his time preaching to slaves of physics. 3 cheers for abstract ideas.
@@ron4520 Men have the natural instinct to have intercourse with every woman in sight and women "apperantly" have the natural instinct to gossip. So unless you want to justify rape, I wouldn't reference natural instincts as source of morality. A mother who eats her baby can be acting on the hunger instinct and you can't reference "motherly instinct" to condemn actions arising from another instinct.
@Azul Escarabajo I'm not familiar with "Nice" strawman. Did you coin that? Please explain so I can avoid making nice strawman arguments in the future. And since when does a person have to be dysfunctional to eat a baby? Lol Thanks for informing me that men have preferences, my mistake was assuming that was obvious. I now see how "sleep with every woman in sight" can give the wrong impression of literally sleeping with every woman in sight.
@@alittax It's around the 42 minute mark. But I think the others didn't understand what he meant with it. Ricky was saying there are 2 questions. One for belief where the question becomes, do you believe in a deity? Where is answer is yes or no. And the other question is for knowledge where the question becomes, Does a deity exist? And that one has yes, no or I don't know.
@@alittax "timestamp"?? You wish to skip much of it? Hey! No cheating! You just watch the whole thing!! There will be a test tomorrow morning at 9AM. Be prepared.
He didn't "outsmart" them - the host had a different perspective of the question. Like Ricky, you make things adversarial. "I don't know" or "I'm not sure" is a reasonable answer to "do you believe there is a god?" Ricky is a victim of his own wisdom and ego. He thinks his perspective is always the correct one and looks down on other perspectives. Scientists will never say they are 100% sure of something. Ricky would. He's a smart guy, I like his mind, and while we all have our faults, Ricky is a bit arrogant.
I'm very happy to be one of the people who managed to break free from myth and religion. I owe it to the internet and the people who devoted their time and effort to explain it to the people and improve civil society.
It also says a lot about yourself to seek the truth whether you wanted the outcome of what you found or not. It's much easier for most people to stay in their bubble of belief especially when most of ones family and social circle reside in it.
You jokes are all about being stupid. RD says we got the universe by "literally nothing." 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
@@2fast2block Scientists don't claim to know what caused the big bang, and the fact that entropy will always increase over time in the universe does not state anything about a supernatural creator.
Your statement is four million percent exaggerated. Putting Gervais (who tries far too hard to be funny) in with Wilde is far worse than just ridiculous.
Ricky is a different kind of intelligent to the other two. He can make anything relatable. Definitely one of the most relevent personalitys of our times. A wonderful human being ❤️
Its called acting, making the false seem believable. And people have fallen for it. Frankie Boyle (an atheist I actually admire) shows what arrogant idiots ricky and dawkins are
I quite agree, GUALADON. But I'll follow up with an alternative to Metal Slug: it is called NOT acting - certainly not in the normal sense of the word. That is the whole point. It is where integrity truly exists. Ricky Gervais is being himself. He is never 'pretending' or taking on the role of something alien to himself. And when in a role which might come under the standard heading of 'acting', he is ACTually using his 'act' as a metaphor for what he truly is…
Cosi Cave even if he is being truly himself, it doesn’t mean he’s right. I actually like speaking to people that have different beliefs and views so i can better understand them and then present my view and have healthy debate, the thing with ricky is that he’s too arrogant and thinks his world view is the absolute truth. That’s why he only has these kind of talks with people with similar views, scientific research shows that being an atheist is more likely to lead to depression and mental health problems. And because he says what he does with confidence people just blindly believe him. I like the office and extras (derek was horrible as was a lot of the films) but he should stick to writing tv shows
@@metalslug4596 i see no arrogance in ricky, and i detest arrogance. People can believe what they like, but no one really knows anything for certain. When it comes to wether or not there is or isn't a God, i know that i dont know the answer, and i know nobody else has that answer either. No one can claim they know for certain, thus anyone attempting to is deluded.
A Belgium Comic by the name of Urbanus once said: "We were there with the millions of us and we all rushed along this large tube and in the end I won.".
regarding the 3-doors thing, I agree with Ricky, there's only 2 doors "I believe there's a god" and "I don't believe there's a god". The "I don't know" part isn't a door, it's the room you're in. It's the room we're all in.
Haldane: the blundering political fool. I find it almost amusing that Haldane was called upon to support the platform of a scientist [Dawkins] who is clearly a supporter of the unelected, autocratic heads of Brussels. On top of the overt condescension attached to his public scolding of 17.4 million UK citizens, the premise of behavioural determinism - as interpreted by Globalists to justify unspeakable social engineering schemes and fraud - is entirely in keeping with the twisted agenda of these deluded souls.
Pithy and humorous a remark as it is, I always got the impression that Hitchens' battle with god was a battle with something within himself that he projecting out. Hitchens always had a vey clear idea of the 'God' he was targeting - which was almost invariably a sort personified and sentient 'man in the clouds' sort of being. A father, essentially. I've heard him mention Spinoza a few times in his talks and debates, but he doesn't really go all that in depth on his ideas. All the debates I've seen seem futile as everyone has a completely different conception of what they mean by god, and if a clear agreement on exactly what it is we are discussing cannot be reached, then everything that follows will be pointless.
@Xavier Foisse Atheists simply don't believe in deities. We have varying opinions on whence the universe arose, and those opinions are independent of our lack of belief.
I can't believe I wasted 30 years of my life in Islam. I've been an atheist for about a year now, can't be happier with my transition
Good on you for choosing life
Welcome bruv, it was 21 for me!
Well done for your transition!! On being a sceptic!
Welcome to the enlighten side.
Welcome to reality, life is more amazing than dogma.
Better to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question.
Better to have a sound mind than to think of silly questions and don't question what you believe. They both believe creation happened on its own and they are fine with that despite the evidence.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
@@2fast2block ufffff messy speech.
Genius
@@NoTengoIlusiones Here's what happens when you give an empty person common science they can't contend with, they will completely ignore it and since they are inept human beings that don't care, they will think they have something clever to say that makes it look like they are not as shallow as they are, so this is what is considered a good scientific come back to all the science they were provided:
Drumroll, please.... their science....."ufffff messy speech."
Yes, I'm serious. I'm not making this up. They are really that empty.
@@2fast2blockWith my short comment obviously I was misunderstood. I'm Atheist, Science man. My comment was regarding your text/comment. I subscribe it, but the text is Long and messy. Just be more concise on this small text boxes ( aka comments).
"The periodic table of things that don't exist is infinite" is a great line.
It really is. But it doesn't explain his definition of atheism..
@@nathanwaibel454atheist is a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
do you believe in santa?
@@nathanwaibel454 Do you really need definition of that word? It is f...g self-explanatory
@@TheBebe666well to be honest its not self explanatory, non-believer is self explanatory atheist is not. Its explanation is unclear to a lot of people because many people find it hard to separate between ideas of an agnostic and an atheist. Since atheism in and itself is a belief its definition can vary based on a person to person basis. I’ve met people who believe there is some wacky-power that initialised creation , also believe in evolution, also believe in soul but don’t believe in any religion or a God in any traditional way. Some believe nature itself should be considered as a God or the sun since everything comes from it but also don’t give the Sun any anthropomorphic characteristics nor think it has any will and know its just a gaseous ball emitting heat and light yet they want to worship it as the creator!😂 people are different and tge question above I think could have come from a person who believes atheism to be a personal belief customised to ones understanding of the universe, you can’t blame someone for that!
Wow... indeed it is!
As an atheist kid (with atheist parents) growing up in a foreign deeply catholic country, I was always attacked and discriminating for asking and being curious. And like Ricky, when people told me I shouldn't question, it only made me want to question more!
And look how you supposedly question more but you're still a doofus like Ricky and RD.
"People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like “it’s true to me” and “it’s faith." Ricky Gervais
Ricky does not know what biblical faith is because he just does not care to know.
Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us.
Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/
www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith
www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust
www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass
www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith
Ricky can't even explain the start, creation, and yet he acts so smugly.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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“However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins.
The odds are NOT there.
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I had a friend who's mother was deeply Christian. Another friend and I tried to ask her why she believes what she believes. She not only didn't have an answer, she got angry and threw us out of her house.
@@2fast2block "We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God."
How can a supernatural lawgiver give those laws in the first place without having his own set of laws for his own existence? Therefore even if there was a God it could be explained with Science (but possibly not our current understanding of it). Then the question becomes what created that God and therefore at best it's highly improbable that there is a God as you might as well cut of the middle man so to speak.
@@od9170 Asking how God was created makes no sense. Clearly creation had to be done by a supernatural creator. A supernatural who created the natural realm of time, space, and matter, along with the natural laws that govern it, is not bound by the natural laws the supernatural creator created. That's basic logic but not if people are NOT logical.
@@2fast2block I'm not saying it would be bound by the natural laws it created. The first sentence of my comment was "How can a supernatural lawgiver give those laws in the first place without having his own set of laws for his own existence?".
If you're saying that God can just exist (no questions asked) then why can't you apply that way of thinking to the "thing" the Universe sits within?
If you're saying that God cannot just exist then I refer to my original comment "How can a supernatural lawgiver give those laws in the first place without having his own set of laws for his own existence?" and if this is the case it can therefore be explained with Science.
I understand how you come to the conclusion that there must be a God but your argument is illogical for the reasons given above.
"You can have different opinions and beliefs. But you can't have different facts."
Very important statement
@@tonyboleno8191 exactly
@@ms33pt
Or how about we just let people live their goddamn lives? This is the only life we’re guaranteed to have; if people want to focus their energy on actually enjoying their godless lives instead of adhering to soul-sucking, arbitrary dogma, then all the power to them!
@@ms33pt
Well, I'm convinced. Hinduism; Here I come!
I like what Dawkins brings to the table. Very eye opening. EXCEPT, modern science allows us to bring people back from dead literally.. Beyond Thousands of NDE's that all correlate regardless of types of religions. Sure the mind is "just brains" as Dawkins states, but how can these people hover above their body as it is "pronounced dead" ? Science has no way to put these near death experiences to test. So at the end of the day it is faith*
@@olebilly how does a person hover over there dead body.. WELL I have been dead before so I can have my 2 cents. I believe it's the same reason aliens travel billions of light years to do anal probes and abductions no one else has ever witnessed. It's a mass delusion that came about at the same time as people invented the soul of men.. and the I never seen the bright light at the end of the tunnel or jesus waiting for me either. So peoples preconceived notions of what they believe others want to hear. Lies, lies and more lies. Funny how millions have seen ghosts but not one single person has the slightest real proof of there sightings. Funny that.
19:41 is when the Ricky Gervais and Richard Dawkins conversation actually begins
The hero we need but do not deserve
Eminem is the greatest haha your dp bro
Thank you.
You are divine 💯💯
You sir are doing the God’s work.
Ricky is really, really intelligent - he doesn’t waste words.
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It is amazing to me that, here we have one man's common sense and realistic outlook on life wrapped in good humor, lining up with another man's life long scientific work regarding life and death.
Every time Richard agreed with Ricky it boosted my admiration for Ricky. If only more of us had good common sense.
Credit to these men. We need these men more now than ever.
Another good one is Dawkins in conversation with Tim Minchin, who funnily enough is also an incredibly well educated man. More so than Ricky I would say but I highly recommend checking it out as well as the comedy works of Tim Minchin. Tim is also the composer and lyricist of 2 major Broadway musicals, Matilda and Groundhog day. Tim is a phenomenal composer and a master pianist
Common sense is deducing the that when there was the lack of matter and from this nothingness our universe was created, we are derived from Prehistoric apes into humans with critical thought, empathy and a sense of right and wrong and we are the only species that has ever evolved into highly intelligent beings. Bacteria Flagella are complex organisms that without every single component that is part of it it would not work, just like any other mechanism like in a combustible engine without the starter, fuel pump etc. I feel that many of these swaggering athiests belittle, poke fun and do the exact thing many hipochristians do and make the other out as dumb or superstitious and christians label athiests as worthless sinners who hate anyone that practices religion (I have seen hypocrites and egotistical bullies. At least Athiests have a valid reason because of their belief or lack therof but us Christians only help thwir case by not showing live amd kindness even wj
Hen it isn't reciprocated😊
Ohh yeahh...the awkward silence, following the meanderings of this wannabe intelligent comedian at 42.40 - 43.00 struck me with awe as well
Every mentally healthy human being has common sense.
The problem is that in so many cultures common sense is a threat against their current status quo and power structure.
I would say personally thank you to the person who put Dawkins and Gervais in the same room. Great idea and conversation.
Since Dawkins name is on the statuette they presented to Ricky, I think he's the thankee.
Bravo!
@ IBS (haha - I see what you did there - very funny) - Dawkins appeared on Ricky's podcast a few years ago - that was the first time I realised how intelligent and well informed he was. They seem genuinely fond of each other.
Yeah, my IQ went down 30 points after listening to these two
It was fine, much preferred tim minchin and Richard Dawkins. Tim proved to be just as intelligent and as engaging as Dawkins
For anyone wondering, this took place on the 3rd of September 2019.
you're a god (figuratively)
they did it the bastards. it's all an atheist plot
THX! Makes more sense now.
Javed Akhtar won this year's award
Thank you, I could not understand where this would have been held with so many unmasked people in May 2020!
"garlic over you door in case there's a Dracula" Brilliant.
These two are such an unlikely combo but it's perfect. I'm glad I work alone, I keep bursting out laughing
"If people didn't invent gods, I wouldn't have to deny them" Brilliant!
Can anyone prove someone invented God..? Or did God invent us ?
@@jackcummings4121 Yes, unequivocally. Everything that's ever been written about God was written by man.
@Hashirama Senju Give examples of what any of them predicted
And didn’t continue inventing them!
@Jiren-the-Grey it's the same reason the simpsons have predicted so much that has happened, its been on the air for almost 35 years and when something is on for a very long time then many predictions are bound to come true. It has everything to do with maths and statistics and absolutely nothing to do with some invisible sky daddy
"The periodic table of non-existent things is infinite" - SO good!
Who said that?
@@dudicaffmusicgroup.7294 Ricky
You cannot mathematically list them in an infinite table.
It does not fit
And read Kurt Anderson's "Fantasyland " for a great history of delusion in America !
Yahuah will destroy the elements themselves when he destroys this earth and cosmos- a very scientific statement. Will you be in the new earth? Have You Heard the True Good Message truerevival.yolasite.com/have-you-heard-the-true-gospel.php
2Pe_3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of Elohim, wherein the shamayim ( pw heavens) being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
What a privilege to be able to watch this.
I forget where I heard it but it's the best response to the question "What do you think it's like after you die? The answer was "do you remember what it was like before you were born? It's like that."
I'd think those that are aborted by having them ripped apart is memorable.
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Alan Watts 👍🏼
Been saying that for years.
I draw the same conclusion
I thought about it by myself not knowing someone did it, too..and yes, its the same thing..nothing before, nothing after..its all now
"I'm oppressed in 13 countries I'd never go to anyways." Gold.
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It is so lovely to see Richard Dawkins doing so well even when he's almost 80 years old.
@@westmidsmanandvan8022 Yours to dude.
@Evenson Alps Yes, you do soil yourself quite a lot at start.
He actually only lost his mother fairly recently twitter.com/richarddawkins/status/1183908617541562369?lang=en
@Evenson Alps I don't think you got my joke.
@Jeremy Grigson lool
As a “recovering Catholic ” man of Catholic upbringing by my mother and a Lutheran dad, I find these discussions valuable!
"Recovering Catholic", I love that 😀
Welcome to reason!
Many of us have fallen prey (no pun intended) to believing in a God that doesn't exist. Until we do our OWN thinking on this can we re-program our minds. I gew up a Protestant and have never been a religious person, but my parents believed in God. I did too for a long time. I don't anymore. There's to much evidence to me that there isn't one.
We got top tier comedy and great philosophical debate at the same time. This is gold
I have left Islam about 3-4 years ago! I am so happy and proud to be able to get out of such an indoctrination. It really is difficult to get out of this bubble we were born into.
Lol what a joke
Congrats Man ! You are Brave and Smart ! Stay cool and help others to do the same !
@@berry9653 I'm against man-made religions with no foundation. God is not a religion. You have your own man-made religion of atheism. It's believing in things you have no proof for. It's a blind faith.
Watch this, how can creation happen on its own?
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
Show me how you got around those laws and have proof to back you up.
@@2fast2block u say fools resort to science fiction yet you yourself are resorting to a supernatural.
Why do you think science should have the answers to life, universe and everything. We are mortal humans with small brains. Life is a mystery and there is much we dont know. No one is saying with certainty what happened with the big bang. We're just saying we dont know yet :)
Its all theories, and so is your god. A theory, that has many inconsitencies.
@@moonsaer now copy and paste where you gave anything how you got around the laws I gave. Please try. You are good at giving laughs.
For a bloke who is just up for a laugh, I think Ricky Gervais is one of the very best influencers of our time. He is not afraid of speaking the truth.
Well, he's stating his opinion, not really "the truth". And I think his point was to actually distinguish opinions from scientific facts.
Never liked him to be honest until his show Afterlife ( man had me in tears with the writing in it) ....and Now I'm actually learning more from him about religion than any other person ever..
Love him, as a theist. And Dawkins. The power to be so respectful and calm in tight debates, as well as being able to have humor like this is a great skill.
@@pydzio Exactly. And, on top of that, I wouldn't say nowadays anyone is particularly afraid to express their opinion, unless they live under an oppressive regime or belong to a particular community from which they don't want to be excluded for contradicting its moral or spiritual views. In today's world the leading reason people hide or manipulate facts for is greed.
@@JamesMooreMarketing same man , this bloke I would love too walk my dog with
Dawkins deserves enormous credit, as do Gervais, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and many others for taking on religious dogma and its often brutal oppression, but we should recognize the even greater courage of people like Bertrand Russell and G. H. Hardy for saying they were atheists when it was dangerous to do so even in England. Russell's writing on the subject are timeless, and as true today as they were a hundred years ago.
Excuse my ignorance, didnt really know Richard Wiseman but he did an amazing job hosting this. Well done sir!
No not really, neither informed nor humorous and his choice of audience questions …questionable
Yeah I found his attempts at humour a little grating and his questions inane.
"Why don't you pray just in case there's a god?"
"Would your god be happy with just-in-case worship?"
That would really suck because you'd hope to escape hell but then god would be really pissed and you'd be even worse off in hell.
@@davesteadman1226 What god would you pray to? there are over a hundred now, which one is the right one? maybe everyone goes to hell of some sort, because the real religion was snuffed out thousands of years ago? Just in case... you're better off not worshiping anyone, just so you don' pray to the wrong god.
@@therealpanse
*What god would you pray to? there are over a hundred now, which one is the right one? maybe everyone goes to hell of some sort, because the real religion was snuffed out thousands of years ago?*
Or maybe the right god hasn't been "discovered" yet...
@A Human Being Hope for things you know to be possible.
Hoping to win the lottery makes more sense - infinitely more, in fact - than hoping for a heaven because we have *confirmable examples* of people having won the lottery.
innit. it especially annoys me when muslims use that argument. the quran is very clear on what happens to religious hypocrites. they'll receive a punishment worse than idolators, it says. because idolators are at least honest
I’m 22 now and i became an atheist at a very young age not because anyone influenced me just because I thought one day “this shit doesn’t add up”
It doesn't add up because you don't think. Neither do these jokes.
Richard Dawkins teaches the universe came from "literally nothing."
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't get anything from "literally nothing." We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
@@2fast2block Bore off, you clown.
High give.
People like him give me hope for humanity
You are welcome, Sir. ;)
Yes! 💘
I was going to type this exact thing for my comment....weird...are we each other in an alternate universe?If we are you are very RAD!!:p
What can Atheism give humanity hope for?
@user-lc6ed8zs7f But Atheism is irrational. It flies in the face of everything we are surrounded by but not only that, even who we are as human beings.
"you can ridicule ideas without hurting anyone" great quote from Gervais, @ 1:01:25
Journalist's question: "Is there anything you won't joke about?"
Ricky's beautiful rebuttal: "Is there anything you won't write about?"
Yeah, Ricky will joke, but he's the real joke.
"People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like “it’s true to me” and “it’s faith." Ricky Gervais
Ricky does not know what biblical faith is because he just does not care to know.
Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us.
Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/
www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith
www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust
www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass
www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith
Ricky can't even explain the start, creation, and yet he acts so smugly.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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“However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins.
The odds are NOT there.
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@@2fast2block real science DOES NOT IN ANY WAY say "everything we see must fit with what we know already" the scientific theory is quite literally about constantly attempting to disprove everything we think we know. I don't agree with Ricky on everything but he has a brilliant quote that roughly goes "If we burned every religious text on earth and then left it for 1000 years, none of those texts would come back. Because the basis for them is nothing. But if we burned every scientific text and left for a 1000 years each one would be back exactly as they were before because all the same tests would heed the same results". Obviously a 1000 years is a bit short but you get the idea. I personally think there is probably a god (or at the very least there is a being out there somewhere that could be interpreted as such) but I don't think a single religion on earth will ever ever ever come close to representing them. The very idea that anyone thinks they know exactly what a diety wants is insane.
@@2fast2block TL;DR.
@It's not looking good well I see that some of my replies are shadow banned but not my original one. The reason you skipped it and didn't even attempt to prove me wrong is because you know you can't so you just want to mouth off as you can't give any evidence to back up your claim.
@@2fast2block
You, a religious nut, want to talk about evidence?
That's hilarious 😂😂😂
I'm not gonna argue with you, enjoy your imaginary friend.
My favourite Ricky quote: "Why did God make me an Athiest?"
He didn't but Satan did.
@@JimOverbeckgenius Satan creates people now?
@@backgammonbacon Who do think made hell - him or you and your kind!?
@@JimOverbeckgenius We are all the same kind you know that right?
@@backgammonbacon you know what the point was
As a person who grew up watching George Carlin. I have to say Ricky Gervais is this Generations George Carlin
George Carlin is missed a lot 😢 but yes Ricky Gervais is doing a great job.
Maybe but I think Chappelle is right there too, since he's come back to stand up he's been all about real stuff not the silly stuff he did with the Chapelle show
I want that on my t-shirt
"Remember if you don't sin Jesus died for nothing"!! 🤣😂🤣
😂😂
If
"I'm oppressed in 13 countries I would never go to anyway"
Lmaoooo
@karen kalantari so do I lol, Egypt 🤣
One isn't oppressed if one hasn't been to those countries and been oppressed. That statement is nonsense.
@@pentuplove6542 are you just saying "oppress" is a verb? Cos you are right, but his statement is then only slightly incorrect really... it would work as a statement if he said: "I'd be oppressed in 13 countries that I would never go to anyway"
@@pentuplove6542 sure. And black people don’t get shot by police in the us because I am black, I have met police and I live. Also I ate bread today - world hunger is not true.
Examples are really hard to grasp, one must be very clear if giving an example.
“If you don’t sin, Jesus died for nothing.”
Brilliant
I agree
Jesus took upon Himself our sin and died in our stead, so that we may live, and demonstrated that we can live without sin by allowing Him to live in us through His Spirit.
@Scott Scotty I can't find my response to you now so I will answer your, what was the sacrifice? question. Jesus has always been the Son of God, before and after the sacrifice. When Adam and Eve sinned (disobeyed God) they became separated from God, Isaiah 59:2 "But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He will not hear." God is holy He cannot embrace nor condone sin, and the word holy means set apart, and that's what happened when Adam and Eve chose to sin, they separated themselves from God. So being our original parents the consequences were that the separation affected their offspring including you and I. The Bible also says that, "the wages of sin is death." Romans 6:23, and they were told that if they took from the tree of knowledge of good and evil they would surely die, Genesis 2:17.
Now, God could have put them to death, but He didn't. Instead He sent His Son and His Son was willing to come and live as a human among us, and take our sins upon Himself.
Imagine that, a sinless being, the Son of God, leaving His heavenly abode coming to earth to live as a man among men, then taking upon His shoulders all the sins of the world. It was the sin that killed Jesus, not the fact of being nailed to the cross. But before He got to the cross He was humiliated, put on trial, punched, spat upon, whipped with bits of spiked metal attached to the whip, which tore into His flesh, and tore the flesh, probably to the bone. Then His body being in a very weak and painful state, He was made to carry His cross and at the place of the crucifixion, He was nailed to the cross, a crown of thorns pressed onto His head. Then when He was lifted up attached to the cross, it would have been dropped with a thud into the hole that it stood in, then to have a spear thrust into His side.
You ask, what was the sacrifice? We haven't finished yet, as though all that wasn't enough already, He cried out "Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me." It was the very weight of sin that separates that made Jesus cry out. Also apparently and understandably, the position that He was in on that cross made it difficult to breath and Jesus every so often had to place His weight on His feet, and in agony try to lift Himself in order to take a breath.
Eventually He said, "Father into your hands I commend my Spirit," then He died.
Crucifixion was a barbaric way to die, the pain was excruciating, from which we get the word crucifixion. So Jesus suffered and died for you and me but He could have decided not to, He could have summoned a legion of angels to come to His rescue, but He didn't, had He done so there would be no hope for anyone. What was the sacrifice? I believe one word would suffice....IMMEASURABLE!!
Then on the third day, God the Father raised His only begotten son from the dead.....HALLELUJAH!!
Everyone is a sinner, but you can be saved by God's grace through the sacrifice of His Son on Calvary. However, Jesus came to show that by His grace and by having His Spirit abiding in us, it is possible to live without sinning. It is only having a perfect character that is going to admit us into His Kingdom. So Jesus did not die for nothing, as you put it.
@Scott Scotty We can all make claims that may not be actually true. You said that you are familiar with the doctrine, I question what doctrine you are referring to?
You should have seen from what I communicated to you, that the sacrifice was.....
1. The perfect sinless Jesus left His heavenly abode to come and dwell among imperfect sinful, unworthy, human beings.
2. Jesus laboured for three and a half years, trying to teach these heart hardened humans, to whom they owed their existence, from whence they came, why they are here, and where they are going, (eternal life or eternal death).
3. After revealing His love and the love of His Father for humanity, and performing many miracles, they put Jesus to death in the most cruel way.
4. While on the cross Jesus experienced the weight of humanities sin, to the extent that He felt eternal separation from His Father, which is the end result of sin for anyone.
5. If Jesus had decided not to go through with it, none of us would be here. So that was the ultimate sacrifice, Jesus actually died in our stead, that we may have life, not just this life but eternal life, if we accept His sacrifice, and allow God's Spirit to live within us that we may be fit for God's Kingdom.
6 The fact that God the Father raised His Son from death does not deminish the death that Jesus experienced.
Love that interviewer!! So enthused and keen with his discussion - and especially his ending call outs - almost WWF moment 😬🎉🎉🎉
I'm religious, and it's nothing to do with anyone else. It's personal. I love Ricky and Richard. They are both intelligent, thoughtful, thought-provoking authors/speakers. A delightful session. 😁
I respect your views and all points of view.
The problem I have with Dawkins etc. is that science cannot prove or disprove a god or superior being or entity.
As a matter of fact science, nor logic, can’t disprove the existance of unicorns, lr anything that doesn’t exist, it can only eventually prove what exists.
@@alessandropetrozzino8747 my point exactly, just because science can't prove the existence of something, does not mean it does not exist!
Maybe science does not have the ability/skill yet!
So until you disprove it you can't say it doesn't exist!
@@alessandropetrozzino8747
“Unicorns”
Awww how quaint the “unicorn” argument versus the belief in the fundamental nature of [Mind and consciousness/monotheism/rationality/logos/objective morality]. I prefer the tooth fairy argument myself with Dwayne Johnson in lead role!!
Please do the tooth fairy argument next time!! It’s a much higher IQ argument than the “unicorn” argument!!
If only you could have been around during the time of Michelle Besso, Sir Francis Bacon, John Henslow, Dostoyevsky, Kepler, Newton, Thomas Aquinas, Anselmo d’Aosta, Miguel de Cervantes, Charles Dickens, Shakespeare, Augustine, Emanuel Kant, Gregor Mendel, George Lemaitre, Descartes, Kierkegaard and Hegel etc you could have saved them all from their misguided belief in the fundamental nature of [Mind and consciousness/monotheism/rationality/logos/objective morality] with your Earth shattering “unicorn”
argument!!
Equally, the prominent Humanist and philosopher professor Michael Ruse helpfully pointed out that…
“Their [the new atheists]” which includes (Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennette and Richard Dawkins ) “treatment of the religious viewpoint is pathetic to the point of non-being. Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion would fail any introductory philosophy or religion course.”
(Michael Ruse: Professor and Specialist in Philosophy of Biology).
“Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion -- a full-fledged alternative to Christianity.” (Michael Ruse).
“The literalists are absolutely right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.” (Michael Ruse).
@@alessandropetrozzino8747
“Science, nor logic can’t disprove unicorns”
This is beyond ironic!! Sorry but the “natural sciences” are saturated with philosophical presuppositions, that is unprovable metaphysical presuppositions and transcendental categories such as (Truth) itself, that is value claims, the prescriptive laws of logic, (conscious agents and freewill, that is rationality itself), inductive reasoning, identify over time, space, time, being, the one and the many, empiricism, the myth of the given etc!! (Gotcha!!!) You seriously haven’t done your homework buddy!!
Furthermore, despite appearances, the “natural sciences” offers no certainty. Decades of progress in the philosophy of science have led us to accept that our prevailing scientific understanding is a limited time offer, valid only until a new observation or experiment proves that it’s not. Equally, it turns out to be impossible even to formulate a scientific theory without metaphysics, without first assuming some things we can’t actually prove, such as the existence of an objective reality, conscious agents and freewill, that is rationality itself, the prescriptive laws of logic and empiricism etc. Not to mention
identity over time, the myth of the given, the one and the many, time, space, cause and effect.
Sorry but science can’t “prove” anything as it is provisional and can only infer. As I pointed out already it’s a constantly changing landscape regarding what (is) not what (ought) to be. Equally, the belief that the future will be like the past is a metaphysical presupposition, that is a transcendental category.
Furthermore, according to Karl Popper, who created the principle of falsification in the first place because logical positivism was self refuting and we needed a way to delineate between empirical and non empirical modes of knowledge and understanding, according to Popper…
“The belief that science proceeds from observation to theory is still so widely and so firmly held that my denial of it is often met with incredulity” (Karl Popper)…
Karl Popper goes on to point out the obvious fact that….
“Observation is always selective. It needs a chosen object, a definite task, an interest, a point of view, a problem. And its description presupposes a descriptive language, with property words; it presupposes similarity and classification, which in their turn presuppose interests, points of view, and problems”(Karl Popper).
Everything Karl Popper lists here such as (observation/empiricism), a description language with property words and classifications, not to mention the belief that the future will be like the past, even these are philosophical, that is unprovable metaphysical presuppositions and transcendental categories that can not be proven, justified or grounded using this strictly reductive, causally closed, effectively complete, atheistic nihilistic b…sht that clearly excludes metaphysical realities.
The fact is that what we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our limited sensory organs and current knowledge and method of questioning.
According to Karl
Popper....
“Scientists should be humble as a prediction can change from one moment to the next, unfortunately there is corruption since scientists started getting subsidies.” (Karl Popper). You seriously haven’t done your homework buddy!!
"If people didn't invent gods, I wouldn't have to deny them." Ricky Gervais.
Brilliant. "And man created God in his own image and thought that it was good" oh boy all the troubles of the world followed that one
People didn't invent gods. In fact people haven't really 'invented' anything. Literally, everything emanates from the collective unconscious. Unfortunately, a real and pragmatic understanding of this concept is beyond this panel of two, mainly because they believe they know everything worth knowing. Ego will be humanities undoing.
"Why would I ask Gervais about God?".
- Me.
@@straightline76 "they believe they know everything worth knowing" They spend a decent amount of time in this video saying the exact opposite. Did you even watch it?
@@MrJamesyboi121 Are you an atheist?
Best way i heard it, "just because you are offended, doesn't mean you are right."
@@topologyrob well when you become one of the worlds leading skeptics i might listen to you. Till then, why waste time commenting on UA-cam, change the world and turn science on its head.
@@topologyrob Why would I bother to try to understand religion; I don't try to understand Astrology, or Homeopathy. When the basis for something is obvious crap, is it worth wasting any time on it.
@@topologyrob I've had 70 years of experience. I find it difficult to believe that any person who has studied science in any depth would consider the existence of any god to be a serious proposition. Studying nonsense is not scholarship. Believing in any religion is wallowing in a childish swamp of braindeath. You seem to define scholarship as studying religion. I must disagree; it's just a waste of effort.
@@topologyrob I don't care what you believe. All religion is bunk.
@@topologyrob please stop making yourself look dumb lol
its 2020 not 900, smart people wont believe in gods draculas or flying unicorns
Ive been with CFI since the beginning. They were there for me on my lonely holidays alone. Thank you.
Im an insomniac, an agnostic and a dyslexic... I lay awake all night wondering if there really is a dog.
Screaming a question from the audience when Ricky is talking is right on the edge between being extremely courageous and just crazy.
I thought it was embarrassing because they didn't have an answer afterwards 😭
Downright rude..
Want to know what he said though
@@sin3358 they couldn’t hear him.
He said something along the lines of “what do you think of the twins that were cloned to protect them against HIV?” …….I think.
“Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.”
-- Christopher Hitchens
I have a Tshirt with that on written on it. Great quote
Dex Aetheists have been the biggest killers in mankinds history Hitler,Mao,Stalin.Pol Pot killed over 200m and you can add Dr Mengele why listen to these fools together.DOH
@@Jack-fs2im Despite the fact that your comment is really quite laughable, I feel compelled to correct you about Hitler who was a dedicated catholic and believed he was doing god's work.
Like smoking wont cause me death,
DopeyDonald Trump no your the comic Hitler was a fanatical atheist enacting natural selection and survival if the fittest and with Mengele.hahaga here suck up the truth ir just stay stupid en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
I am Indian exmuslim, I listened a lot of rationalist people and understand basics of science and I realised religion is fake after leaving of Islam earlier I was little bit sad there is no heaven after life but ok now I am happy 😊
:)
At least now you know that this life we have is the one worth living and aren't constantly yearning for death and "heaven"
Where’s you evidence??
@@Bingobanana4789certainly not in a holy book of science..
All life is Energy ⛮ & energy never dies ❤ After a lifetime of searching, I experienced a NDE, Near Death Experience, I popped out of my body, wonderful experience. I came back inside my body, & remembered that "It doesn't matter if you are loved in this life, only that you love ❤😊 Happy 😊 Atheist 😊
Yes, learning is the key to happiness! I’m so happy I’ve found this community.
Learning evolution ? Still no evidence
You dont know how the world began,so science can explain things, but not all, btw science believed the earth was flat before
My Irish Granddad told me "It's bad luck to be superstitious".
Here in Italy we say: "it's stupid to be superstitious, but not being it brings bad luck"
@@giacomogenovese8166 Ha haa, yes, our two cultures have a lot in common. No shoes on the table... :-)
@Yakdo If only you were in my band (Eurothrash)in 1986- 1989 we might have made it out of our garage and onto a stage. :-)
Haha
So he was a controled christian ...
"If you don`t know the answer, Richard just say so"
Comedy gold
Freedom from religion should be as big as freedom of religion.
I love how Ricky always has a pint with him wherever he is 😄🍺
If that's a pint then he's a much bigger fellow than I thought!
it destroyed his brain. What' Dawkins' excuse then?
Richard Dawkins teaches the universe came from "literally nothing."
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.
We can't get anything from "literally nothing." We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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“However improbable the origin of life might be, we know it happened on Earth because we are here.” -Richard Dawkins.
We only get life from life...the law of biogenesis. We can't get anything without God.
The odds are NOT there.
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No, the eye did not evolve into various eyes. Your mere chance mutations are absurd.
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Even Dawkins admits we can't know what is true because of natural selection...
The God Delusion, “Since we are creatures of natural selection, we cannot totally trust our senses. Evolution only passes on traits that help a species survive, and not with preserving traits that tell a species what is actually true about life.”
Oh, but Dawkins knows what's true about life...killing those who don't meet his expectations for living.
dailycaller.com/2021/05/19/richard-dawkins-down-syndrome-roe-v-wade/
@@shenhaizz Don't breed
"How do you make a good person do bad things? Introduce religion." - Christopher Hitchens
you don't even need that much.
So according to Hitchens if it was not for religion to point out what is morality wrong, then it would be ok to do anything you want? Yet governments do the same thing? Gods morals are consistent, yet governments laws are always changeable. So if you take god given rights away, then you have laws that conflict with one another.
@@exit5620 I see what you're saying.. communism and fascism aren't religions, yet between them they killed well over 100 million people.. No religion has ever killed that many.. Hitchens has got beef with religion, I see that. But I think the bone he's trying to pick really lies deeper in man than religion. We'd be shitty even without it
@@schnibbler6085 I guess it all depends on your definition of "religion", and hence not truly worth debating. But if you take religion as all encompassing narratives that contain unverifiable metaphysical assertions intended to guide behavior. Then yes, communism, fascism, liberalism... are religions.
Moreover, I would say that the "hate" for the theistic religions and the distaste for the mere word "religion" is just an indicator of the defeat of the theistic religions by the secular ones.
@@FilosSofo So in this view then every man has a religion, including Hitchens. (as narratives must not necessarily be written to be adhered to). Hitchens would have vehemently denied that he is "religious", though he also believed in metaphysical assertions that also cannot be verifiable. Science must also be metaphysically interpreted. Hitchens meant supernatural deities and the dogma that goes along with it. Not the idols created by man, as he then would also fall into the category of worshipping one.
"People jumping in the way of a bullet and saying 'why are you shooting at me?'" I've never heard someone encapsulate outrage culture so completely.
HolyMith and if that bullet was directed at someone else, and you had a bullet proof vest on? His argument is for bullets directed at ideas, not other people. I call out sexism and racism because, as a white male, I'm not emotionally injured by them, multiple scientific papers in psychology have shown other white males are more likely to listen to me, and it's the right thing to do.
@@Jay-jn6ul You missed the point. The proverbial bullets weren't aimed at anyone. He is referring to people searching for reasons to take offence, often on behalf of others who may or may not even be offended themselves. By your own admission, you "call out racism and sexism" because you have never experienced it yourself. I have no problem with people doing this, so long as they have actual evidence and reasoning behind it. Unfortunately, that is rarely the case in today's climate, rather it amounts to little more than witch hunting. As a side note, if you think a white male can't experience racism or sexism, you have misunderstood the very words themselves.
HolyMith nope, you've clearly missed the point and tried to make what he's saying fit into what you want to believe. Honestly I expected better thinking on an atheist video but here we are. He literally says he is attacking ideas, not people, and you choose to ignore that? Gervais doesn't makes sexist or racist jokes, because he knows they are offensive, regardless of whether the people mot affected by them call him out on it or their allies do. It's pretty tiring to be a woman and always have to call out sexism so sometimes it helps for men to do it too. Also I have a social psychology degree so I've literally studied the definitions of these things. They have systems attached to them, power dynamics. If I go to some female dominated society where all the women are women of colour and I am treated like a stereotype, denied jobs and constantly undermined because of my sex and race then yep, they'd be being racist and sexist towards me. In the western world now saying a joke at the expense of my race or gender does not oppress me in any way. It's not racism, it's not sexism. These things have bigger meanings than you're attaching to them, probably because you're so keen to try and find the people who are not arguing genuinely against them rather than seeing the reality. You're suiting your own worldview and being comfortable in it, dismissing genuine concerns with society just because you can't, or won't see them. Probably because they don't affect you. Well do some research on google scholar, look up some scientific papers on, among other things, identical CV's not making it to the second round of a job interview if they're entitled with ethnic sounding names or female names, and then get back me. I bet when you watched Christopher Hitchens' video defending free speech you misunderstood that too. He defends free speech as long as it doesn't cause harm, like yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Gervais is defending literally talking about firing bullets at ideas and you're twisting it to when those bullets are fired at people. Bye.
@@Jay-jn6ul Gervais makes offensive jokes because they are funny and he (naively) hopes that people don't take it too seriously and just have a laugh. People like you, who are ever-eager to get outraged and justify their farcical degree, are the ones he is referring to. He is making jokes, you are getting mad about it because you *want* to get mad about it, rather than just viewing it as comedy. You are trying to shoehorn your social preferences into comedy, where it simply doesn't belong. Someone makes a joke about rape? I might laugh, but that doesn't mean I think rape is okay, and I hope you have figured that out already. Employers are free to employ whoever the hell they want. It is their business and if they hire poorly, the business will suffer. If someone doesn't want to hire a foreign person because their english skills may be lacking, or a woman because it's a physically demanding job, then they are entitled to do so. You can't force businesses to hire people you want them to hire. Free speech should be defended up to the point of inciting violence and oppression, and people take extreme liberties with those criteria nowadays. This is the heart of the issue: people need to chill the fuck out and stop seeing the oppression boogeyman everywhere.
Not to get to deep, but in reality, it's even worse than that. I mean technically, you can't "jump in front of a bullet." By the time you could perceive the gunshot, the bullet is a half mile past you. So the people claiming outrage, in fact, weren't even the ones being shot at, nor do they know why the shot was fired. They have nothing in the game, and weren't even there, but yet they still claim outrage as if they were -- and sadly we listen to them, as if they were there or know the slightest thing about what they speak of.
I really like the presenter! He has a very good sense of humor.
Best Conversation I have listened to in a long while
"why dont you put garlic over your door just in case theres a Dracula" 😂
Also I just love how much the host is into Ricky's jokes.
Thing is there is merit in his jokes here, they aren't just empty jokes about nothing.
When I go shopping, I always put a string of garlic around my neck!
I dunno about vampires, but it does keep away creepy men!
...except some Italian men.
Khm...
@@BunnyLebowski38D I can think of a couple of reasons why creepy men approach you......
@@Redman680 Hello?
Just stay away from my ex-sister-in-law Bunny.
She reports all these UA-cam creeps to me- and right now, guess who appears to be #1.
My axe is made of Titanium-Steel, and it is razor sharp. If Bunny wishes, I can easily deal with such people. And I do not need garlic, little man..
Ricky is a national treasure
Do you fancy him?
@@mavis3916 yes
I think he is an international treasure haha
@@kaze8447 to be fair I think you may be right
If Ricky Gervais is a national treasure, we are sunk. Please God help us.
"His comedy often gives offence."
You can't give offence. You can only take it.
Best religion ever that i was taught by my fantastic parents. If you go through life trying to treat people the way you would like to be treated, you won't go far wrong.
Except not everyone wants to be treated the way you want to be treated
“One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.”
― Jane Austen, Emma
Where did your parents get their moral grounding from?
Interesting, this is the Golden Rule, you find it in the Bible, Matthew 7:12 (NASB95): 12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you"
Nobody taught me that, but I completely agree.
Probably my favourite quote, what Hitchens actually said was “If someone tells me that I've hurt their feelings, I say, 'I'm still waiting to hear what your point is"
Get this bit right, atheism is when you tell me I need God I tell you I can get along perfectly well without him. - Hitchens. He was never a physicist or philosopher. The laws of nature require an ongoing cause, an end of the line of explanation, a singular concurrent cause, self-explaining, identifiable as God. He needs to show a Self-sustaining Source for all reality. It's in his own proof for atheism:
1. If God exists then God is all good and the Source for all reality.
2. Evil is real but cannot come directly from God (Who says? where's the *_LOGIC_* here?!).
3. Therefore God does not exist (no, the only supporting premise can't support this conclusion, and 1. is not really a scientific principle or a law that can be tied to the supporting premise in the conclusion.
So, Hitchens claim of atheism has been vacated.
@@oursecretlord9008 how can a non-belief be vacated? Your comment is incredibly confused. There is nothing in nature that requires anything to identify as a "God" that is a human invention.
“Probably my favourite quote what Hitchens actually said was”. “If someone tells me that Iv hurt their feelings, I say, I’m still waiting to hear what your point is”.
No offence intended but I think the bereaved families of the innocent civilians who died in the Iraq war, a war that Hitchens actually supported would beg to differ. Similarly, Dawkins lack of sensitivity to the suffering and feelings of the bereaved families who lost loved ones under eugenics in WW2 leaves most normal people very uncomfortable and suspicious to say the least?. According to Dawkins
“It’s one thing to deplore eugenics on ideological, political, moral grounds. It’s quite another to conclude that it wouldn’t work in practice. Of course it would. It works for cows, horses, pigs, dogs & roses. Why on earth wouldn’t it work for humans? Facts ignore ideology” (Richard Dawkins).
Responding to a woman who said that she would face a real ethical dilemma if she became pregnant with a baby with Down’s syndrome, Dawkins advice was: “Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice.” Under pressure from huge public outrage, Dawkins issued one of his usual non-apology apologies leading to more public distrust and damage to scientific authority.
Dawkins has become so obsessed with attacking religion and promoting the worship of (facts) “science”, he has lost sight of what we should be defending. Similarly, his “humanist” supporters also place the category “human” quite a long way down their order of importance, with things such as rationality, choice and discomfort. Human life can thus be easily traded away using their superior intellect and some emotionless utilitarian calculation. Interestingly, when it comes to eugenics, religion has a much more humane and better track record at defending the human than “science”.
I hope I haven’t caused offence. However if Iv hurt your feelings.. “I’m still waiting to hear what you’re point is”
All the best to you and keep safe during this Corona virus crisis.
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@@oursecretlord9008 You mix things up a bit. What are quotes? They need to be identified as quotes. Which are your thoughts or beliefs need to be adressed as such. For me as a reader it is completely surreal what you mean. And sure you will say it is because i....etc. But it's not me, if you want to get your point across you have to state clearly what is a phrasing of Dawkins or Hitchens for that matter. I see you tried. And you hjave to tackle them point per point. I fail to see where your thought begins and another ends.
I'm here to apologize and to thank to a great man that I've never met Richard Dawkins.
Few years ago I was practicing Islam, as a person who had different point of view I was criticizing Richard Dawkins.
I felt like that was a right thing to do, "defend my faith"
But one day by mistake I have watched something about mutations.
It got me interested... And then I went to mosque and asked my Imam about what he thinks about evolution etc.
His replies were typical for an imam
- oh you know, big bang etc. And who created big bang?
And I was like... No this is not enough, this answer doesn't give me the satisfaction
So one day someone told me this
"Look we found out scientifically how big is our galaxy, then other galaxies that we can observe - our planet look like nothing else, nothing really special in that amazingly large cosmos, do you think someone would create something and then bothered to do all these bullshit that religions are talking about?"
From that moment I realised that to believe in something that stupid I had to be stupid, then I realized that was my point of view of the world, that was my bubble with everything easy and everything explained. I have realised that every religion out there and philosophy if not based on evidences or is opposite science is all bullshit
Now I want to thank Richard Dawkins for the information that he left in this world, I'm reading now Selfish Gene and few other books and I can say there is nothing more amazing than science.
I wish I was better student in my class when I was younger there is loads of stuff I don't know and I want to know.
@ Scorpion - don't worry about not being a good student at school - you have your whole life to learn - I am a 60 year old embarking on a PhD. Oh, and thank you for sharing your story - I can't begin to understand how difficult it must be to find your way out of religion as you have.
_Scorpion,_ I don't think theists are stupid, just misled (and often in a "bubble" like you said). That's why it's important to me to try to help them out of those beliefs (and at the same time I also try to listen seriously to what they have to say, to make sure I'm not in a "bubble" of my own!).
@@majmage Yes we were all misleaded at some point in our life. But because I was raised in this kin of environment it make me se see faith or religion as a virtue as something everyone has, that it is normal to have faith and to to be week not having a faith...
Now I see that... To understand science you have to know that you will die, as everyone - you will die and you won't live second time... No one will.
Then science comes to people's saying " you will die, but if you reproduce your genes will survive, that makes your "code" immortal but you as you with all your experience... You will die. So live your life and learn and use it best as you can.
@@scorpion8375 Yeah true. Also the things that make us "live forever" aren't just genes. It's everything we do in life! All the people who invented the technologies (electricity, the internet, LED displays) that let us communicate to each other _are still improving our lives today,_ even if they're dead. That means that everything we do in life matters. That includes things that don't seem like they matter: after all, somebody grew the food and cooked it for Ben Franklin (who invented electricity) and _those people are also responsible for our electricity._ So even things that seem less important echo through eternity.
@@majmage Yes, agree on this one but I'll never invent anything I'm afraid 😅 - for now I take baby steps to understand world. For me leaving religion/faith (basically fairy tales) was like a start of new life.
The lady’s joke about the C of E at the beginning was hilarious 🤣 absolutely accurate 🇬🇧
The invention of lying is a firm favotite of mine. Funny, sad, interseting, and usually sparks a good conversation afterwards (and the occasional argument) 😂😂😂❤
Man, that introductory speech from Dawkins was worth more than every Tony, Oscar and other cheesy entertainment award put together. What an honor.
“People try to give ideas human rights so they can protect them”. Quote of the night imo.
Aye, came to the comments just for this one. ( Ha took longer than I expected ) :p
Ricky gervais has the most infectious laugh😂😂😂😂😂
This was such a joy to watch.
Ricky Gervais is so smart and considerate, he's much much more compassionate than one would first seem.
I was thinking the same
Totally agree. Never would have thought that. That just drives home the point, that you really can’t judge a book by its cover!
Similar to Daniel Tosh. Really biting humor, but by all accounts really nice in person.
Well, one can't EXPERTLY and consistantly push peoples buttons without understanding and emphasizing with them.
Lots of Americans only know Gervais from his Golden globes presentations where he is in pure scathing mode. Maybe they've seen some of his stand up performances where he navigates through meticulously written comedy which is by turns confronting and absurdist, all the while being so intelligent and critical yet relatable.
But if people watch his T.V shows and movies there exists a common thread through all of them of raw human emotion with an emphasis on friendship, kindness and everyday bravery.
❤Gervais😆
Somehow, I see Christ coming out in Ricky constantly. His love for nature / animals / Humanity. His high intellect, Jesus is in there, Ricky just can't see HIM
"Am I optimistic? Well, I've got nothing to fear."
This is my favorite part of becoming an atheist. No more fear. No more giving a damn what the skydaddy thinks or what's going to happen to me when I die or what happens when other people die. I felt so unburdened when I finally admitted to myself that I no longer believed and slowly realized everything that meant.
Satan is happy
@@daviddeida imaginary being has imaginary emotion.
@@spanglelime Indeed.An imaginary puppet thinks it has free will and has no fear. LMAO.
@@daviddeida do we not have free will? You chose to come to the comments to insult someone, and I chose to come here and ask you a question. So once again, do we not have free will?
@@_goyonder_4899 Using the scientific method,the same method for dismissing God,there is no evidence you have free will at all.You are a meat puppet. Choices are made by your genes and conditioning ,which you did not choose,before you are even conscious of the choice.The person you call yourself is an illusion, a construct.Do your research,Sam Harris is but one of many scientists who have come to this realization.I would'nt call "Satan is happy " as insulting him at all,so an apology would be warranted and accepted with such an accusation.
I got to the 6th or 7th grade. I got introduced to all the sciences and I got answers to questions that were backed by evidence. I finally came across something that can provide actually satisfactory answers and not just cling to the same version of words to explain how the world works. That was the year I gave up on my religion / gods. I'm an Indian so it was hard explaining everyone why but I did it anyway. Has to be the best decision of my life. So liberating.
Your personal beliefs are yours, I respect all opinions. However, science cannot prove or disprove a god/superior being/entity what ever you want to cal it.
@@gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors
Exactly!! The fact is that most forms of organized atheism are attempts to fashion God surrogates. In other words, one of the paradoxes of contemporary atheism is that it’s a flight from a genuinely godless world. It is a flight away from relativism/moral subjectivism!!
As Pantagruel said 'let the good times roll'.
@@gethappycyclingcampingoutdoors thats what atheism is...
Leaving the gap of knowledge.....as just gap until we find out or atleast try to find or may be it will remain unknown forever
Filling the gap with fairies has as much as chances of being right as any shit you can imagine.....which is infinite
Asking someone to disprove a theory which has no proof is the lowest level of logic possible.
@@anearthian894 what I'm saying is there is NO prove either way, so it is one person thinking/believing what ever they. In other words, no one is right or wrong!
32:00 “If you don’t know the answer Richard just say so”😂
18:50 is when Ricky enters and the talk starts after an incredibly long intro.
You just save me 18 minutes.. Thank you
You deserve a VC for this feat. Thank you kind stranger
Thank you. She sounded like she wrote that intro for a high school class
There is a God indeed!
IMO you should not skip Richard Dawkins’ introduction of Ricky which begins around 8:30. I actually watched that part twice.
Ricky Gervais and Richard Dawkins. Click!
no brainier
Click! Click! Bang!
literally my 2 favourite people
Ricky Gervais, instant click.
HopelessNerd
Haldane was optimistic too, until he experienced the real meaning of his cherished communist utopia.
Supernature. One of the funniest shows ever. Loved Humanity too. Ricky you're a proper gem. Got some good exercises for those knees mate.
"Remember, if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing"
Who is Jesus
Death is like being stupid, only painful for others. Perfect.
Who got this out of their imagination?
This is painful to read.
Boom
This is exactly what needed to show up in my recommendations and lift me up while in quarantine. I do have to admit that I am jealous of seeing a crowd of people together (pre-COVID) to watch Dawkins and Gervais.
Especially with all of the backsliding we're seeing with the US administration. It's really scary seeing the shift. If the Republicans win again in November, the danger of a Handmaiden's Tale style country is becoming all too real.
Aaron NoneYa
Indisputable. It is no wonder that Trump loves uneducated people, without them he’d be rumbled and never have been elected. Ignorance is a plague.
@@jenkem4464 And what do you get if the dems win and put a demented puppet in place? You are blind in one eye if you think biden is somehow holier than trump.
@Aaron NoneYa Reps have faith healing and dems have goop products, homopathic and lifestyle magazines. Two sides of the same coin of stupid.
love how at the end they clap Ricky and he acknowledges it by praying 🙏 hahahahaha
Ricky and Richard podcast!!! I’d listen all day
Frfr
"The periodic table of things that dont exist is infinite......."
Bars
Haha "bars" those that know,....know
do we reckon cody ko has seen this
Because the Platypus lays eggs and has milk, it could make its own custard. Genius, Ricky!
Ricky Gervais and Richard Dawkins go without saying, my admiration and all that towards them two.... The host/presenter of this presentation is one of the beat ive seen on any platform, just works so well with these two, but is also witty in his own right. Amd most of all just lets the guests speak aswell. I want to find more videos of this host. Overall fantastic, great presentation
I'm currently at 01:07:00 and i genuinly don't want this video to end.
Loving Ricky calling out *dogma* ,
"Dogma's the dangerous bit and it doesn't just exist in religion, it exists in more and more places now, that cult is in the _that which shouldn't be questioned_ ...if someone says you shouldn't question this, oh you've got to, you've got to question it." 👈 YES.
Christians shouldn't have a problem with people questioning.
@@tonyboleno8191 that's a shame. Life isn't a race. People fall and people can get back up.
@@adolphus28 whats that got to do with most christians not having a problem with people questioning?
@@tonyboleno8191 what I mean is that even if the questioning leads one to fall. If this is the truth, you'd think that the Christians have a good chance to re believe.
@@adolphus28 you are incoherent.
I remember purchasing the "Planet Earth" documentary series and hearing Oprah's voice instead of Sir Attenborough's. I immediately took the boxset back for a refund, and ordered the proper one online. Sir Attenborough is not only a british treasure, but a world treasure.
Agree with you, Asra, 100%.
Opera? Narrating planet earth? Blasphemy
@@billy6044
"Opera?" ha ha.
@me yep
Asra Arradon As an American, (as I assume you are) I agree.
Ricky hits on a very good point about people not being able to grasp the scale of time involved with things like evolution and natural development, random chance, etc. Even some scientists struggle with this.
The scale of time… some scientists struggle with time, all Atheists struggle with the creator of time.
@@SilverSurfer5150 And religious people struggle with the universe.
@@GetMoGaming What?! 😂 Struggle with the universe? Not a chance. Christians do not struggle with the universe. We understand it, and the one who created it. It’s Atheists who struggle with the universe. Christians have God and science. Science is God’s gift to us, as is the intelligence to understand it. Humans have not endowed themselves with intelligence.
I didn't think I could like Ricky even more, but then I saw him with a blue outline.
"if people didn't invent gods I wouldn't have to deny them"
I agree and to add on to that.
If people didn't invent freewill and sources of objective morality, Dawkins would be wasting his time preaching to slaves of physics.
3 cheers for abstract ideas.
Just like inventing racial opression disguised as marxism disguised as not working for the 1% to destroy the world economy.
@@debaterofeverythingpresent2775 Nobody invented free will- will is an idea made by humans.
@@ron4520 Men have the natural instinct to have intercourse with every woman in sight and women "apperantly" have the natural instinct to gossip.
So unless you want to justify rape, I wouldn't reference natural instincts as source of morality.
A mother who eats her baby can be acting on the hunger instinct and you can't reference "motherly instinct" to condemn actions arising from another instinct.
@Azul Escarabajo I'm not familiar with "Nice" strawman. Did you coin that? Please explain so I can avoid making nice strawman arguments in the future.
And since when does a person have to be dysfunctional to eat a baby? Lol
Thanks for informing me that men have preferences, my mistake was assuming that was obvious.
I now see how "sleep with every woman in sight" can give the wrong impression of literally sleeping with every woman in sight.
I have not seen a better host than Richard Wiseman
The subtitles are killing me! "…give a fence" 😂
It's amazing seeing Ricky Gervais outsmart all the rest. His response to the 3 doors and the discussion on agnosticism was brilliant.
lol
Can you please point to the timestamps to both? Thanks.
@@alittax It's around the 42 minute mark. But I think the others didn't understand what he meant with it. Ricky was saying there are 2 questions.
One for belief where the question becomes, do you believe in a deity? Where is answer is yes or no.
And the other question is for knowledge where the question becomes, Does a deity exist? And that one has yes, no or I don't know.
@@alittax "timestamp"?? You wish to skip much of it?
Hey! No cheating! You just watch the whole thing!!
There will be a test tomorrow morning at 9AM. Be prepared.
He didn't "outsmart" them - the host had a different perspective of the question. Like Ricky, you make things adversarial. "I don't know" or "I'm not sure" is a reasonable answer to "do you believe there is a god?" Ricky is a victim of his own wisdom and ego. He thinks his perspective is always the correct one and looks down on other perspectives. Scientists will never say they are 100% sure of something. Ricky would. He's a smart guy, I like his mind, and while we all have our faults, Ricky is a bit arrogant.
I'm very happy to be one of the people who managed to break free from myth and religion. I owe it to the internet and the people who devoted their time and effort to explain it to the people and improve civil society.
lost :-) you wild man.
It also says a lot about yourself to seek the truth whether you wanted the outcome of what you found or not. It's much easier for most people to stay in their bubble of belief especially when most of ones family and social circle reside in it.
You are better person than anyone.
Tnx, Ricky! For standing up for.... standing against stupidity! I'm sorry to say this, but: thank you! My love for you and yours. ❤
You jokes are all about being stupid. RD says we got the universe by "literally nothing." 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
@@2fast2block Scientists don't claim to know what caused the big bang, and the fact that entropy will always increase over time in the universe does not state anything about a supernatural creator.
Great talk, more like it please!
It’s so incredible how interesting it is to listen to Ricky. He spits out funny, wise words so naturally. His quotes remind me of those of Oscar Wilde
Your statement is four million percent exaggerated. Putting Gervais (who tries far too hard to be funny) in with Wilde is far worse than just ridiculous.
@@RelativeBadgersearch gervais Oscar Wilde. Ricky did a hilarious joke about his ‘nothing to declare but my genius’
Ricky is a different kind of intelligent to the other two. He can make anything relatable. Definitely one of the most relevent personalitys of our times. A wonderful human being ❤️
Its called acting, making the false seem believable. And people have fallen for it. Frankie Boyle (an atheist I actually admire) shows what arrogant idiots ricky and dawkins are
I quite agree, GUALADON.
But I'll follow up with an alternative to Metal Slug: it is called NOT acting - certainly not in the normal sense of the word. That is the whole point. It is where integrity truly exists. Ricky Gervais is being himself. He is never 'pretending' or taking on the role of something alien to himself. And when in a role which might come under the standard heading of 'acting', he is ACTually using his 'act' as a metaphor for what he truly is…
Cosi Cave even if he is being truly himself, it doesn’t mean he’s right. I actually like speaking to people that have different beliefs and views so i can better understand them and then present my view and have healthy debate, the thing with ricky is that he’s too arrogant and thinks his world view is the absolute truth. That’s why he only has these kind of talks with people with similar views, scientific research shows that being an atheist is more likely to lead to depression and mental health problems. And because he says what he does with confidence people just blindly believe him. I like the office and extras (derek was horrible as was a lot of the films) but he should stick to writing tv shows
@@metalslug4596 i see no arrogance in ricky, and i detest arrogance. People can believe what they like, but no one really knows anything for certain. When it comes to wether or not there is or isn't a God, i know that i dont know the answer, and i know nobody else has that answer either. No one can claim they know for certain, thus anyone attempting to is deluded.
@@metalslug4596
Your being awfully dishonest...
@26:00 That killed me. Basically "stop monkeying around already, will you?".
A Belgium Comic by the name of Urbanus once said: "We were there with the millions of us and we all rushed along this large tube and in the end I won.".
regarding the 3-doors thing, I agree with Ricky, there's only 2 doors "I believe there's a god" and "I don't believe there's a god".
The "I don't know" part isn't a door, it's the room you're in. It's the room we're all in.
This is a brilliant insight. Yes. the third door is actually a room we're all living in! Thank you for the clarity.
Well explained
Yeah Gervais got owned by the moderator on that one and even the audience was laughing at his ridiculous conclusion.
Very well said
If you ask me "I don't know" is equal to "I don't believe".
Whenever Richard and Ricky do anthing together, any sort of interview or conversation, it feels like my birthday.
Ifkr
Haldane: the blundering political fool.
I find it almost amusing that Haldane was called upon to support the platform of a scientist [Dawkins] who is clearly a supporter of the unelected, autocratic heads of Brussels.
On top of the overt condescension attached to his public scolding of 17.4 million UK citizens, the premise of behavioural determinism - as interpreted by Globalists to justify unspeakable social engineering schemes and fraud - is entirely in keeping with the twisted agenda of these deluded souls.
please watch to the end... ua-cam.com/video/ChWiZ3iXWwM/v-deo.html
We do have a crocaduck..its called a platypus 😂
"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." Christopher Hitchens
Pithy and humorous a remark as it is, I always got the impression that Hitchens' battle with god was a battle with something within himself that he projecting out. Hitchens always had a vey clear idea of the 'God' he was targeting - which was almost invariably a sort personified and sentient 'man in the clouds' sort of being. A father, essentially. I've heard him mention Spinoza a few times in his talks and debates, but he doesn't really go all that in depth on his ideas. All the debates I've seen seem futile as everyone has a completely different conception of what they mean by god, and if a clear agreement on exactly what it is we are discussing cannot be reached, then everything that follows will be pointless.
"If people didn't invent God's, I wouldn't have to deny them" 😂👌🏻
Easy to say when you think are actually are one and your WORD is the only word........not
@@wideawake6501 So it's not easy to say? You want us to take you seriously when you can't even compose a grammatical sentence?
@@wideawake6501 Says "easy to say" then can't actually say it.
@Xavier Foisse And an eternal supernatural being is less magical? 🤣
@Xavier Foisse Atheists simply don't believe in deities. We have varying opinions on whence the universe arose, and those opinions are independent of our lack of belief.