This video helped me undestand the process a lot. It sounds like there is some trial and error in setting decoder CVs that affect speed matching, but that are not adjusted when speed matching.
Just finished getting everything set up. Thank you for the detailed video instructions. I added a "Liter Energy Battery #103450" to the purple hat. The IoTT Stick got very hot, so I removed the battery. The stick still functions via USB connection, but the internal battery no longer will hold a charge. What are my options?
Ahh, so LocoNet over TCP is the "better" interface method for the IOTT Stick for the ability to write CVs. So if I have both options, I should choose LocoNet over TCP, not WiThrottle.
Yes, in this example I am using a standard motorshield and power it from VIN so the VIN trace remains intact. VIN, when using the DCC AUX shield can be powered with up to 18 Volts and it provides 5V to the Arduino board as well, so the onboard LDO of the Arduino is bypassed and does not heat up. Watch video #130 for more information how the AUX shield works.
Hello Hans, I setup a stand alone speed profiling station today. Dedicated DCC++EX with red head and 3m of track. Speed magic starts ok, and hangs between steep 6 and 9. Loco is buzzing like is trying to start but it probably needs few more steps. Software just doesn’t advance to higher steps. Any tips?
If the SpeedMagic tries 3 speed steps and the speed is not increased, the process is terminated. This is the case e.g. if you try to create a profile for a speed the loco can't reach. The same might be true in this case. You should make sure that the loco starts moving at the first speed step. Most decoders have a kick start feature that helps breaking loose the anchor of the motor. For further analysis it would be helpful if you could have a look into the loconet commands. Check the Loconet viewer of the RedHat. This would help to better understand what's going on.
@@IoTT Thanks Hans, Since your site is temporarily down, I couldn’t read your manual. Instead I watched the videos several times. I tried to stick to your instructions and one of them was to zero everything out before the test. Thank you for clarifying the test requirements for me.
Hi Hans, Great channel and some really excellent devices. I have been trying for several hours today to get my purple hat to run speed magic. I can connect to the purple hat via the web page and everything seems to function correctly until I try to read a loco file from the roster. On clicking the button I see a list of .xml files on the screen and all my locos are there but when I select any file nothing seems to happen. The list disappears and there is no error message. I have tried two pc's with different versions of JMRI and different windows operating systems but the result is the same. My dcc system is NCE powercab but as far as I can see the problem is between purple hat and the pc. The software version on the purple hat is 1.6.5. Do you have any ideas that could help me? ........................John
When you load an xml file, there is not much visible on screen. The only thing you should see is that the address of the locomotive is displayed as assigned DCC address. This indicates that the PurpleHat has successfully assigned the DCC address via the WiThrottle interface (I assume that is what you are using as you have an NCE command station, so using the Withrottle server if JMRI is the way to go). The connection is established and if you start running the calibration test, it will use this address.
My etup is exactly as you say. When I click on the button to load the xml file the list of loco.xml files pops up. When I then click on the required file nothing happens, the file list is removed and the web page remains unchanged with no loco address shown. Is the Withrottle populated with the address first and it then shown on the web page or is the web page populated firsr? I ask this because the loco address does not appear in the purple hat WiThrottle page on the IoTT stick display and also does not show in the jmri WiThrottle server page. The IoTTstick is however shown in the jmri Withrottle serves as a client. I wonder if my problem is not reading the xml file or is it not being able to access the Withrottle server?
@@canalsidingsmodelrailway3411 If the stick is listed in the JMRI WiThrottle connection list, there is a connection established, so I would think that end should work. If you load an XML file, I think the Stick tries to contact the DCC address and displays it if successful. If no address is shown, I think there was a problem in the communication with the WiThrottle Server. If you want, you can send me your xml file and I can see if it loads.
Great series. I found the way you implemented the phases to determine the models speed very cleaver. I am interested in trying this out. Do you have a estimated time for when the purple hats will be back in stock?
Thank you. PurpleHat is actually in stock. See here for HO: www.tindie.com/products/tanner87661/purplehat-track-measuring-kit-ho-scale-flat/ You can also get kits for N or G scale. Search Tindie for PurpleHat to get all four versions listed.
@@deeprunrailroad_Mike Correct, you need a PurpleHat and a Stick. On the receiving end you need either WiThrottle or Loconet over TCP server. No problem if you run JMRI or another software or command station that supports one of these protocols.
@IoTT, I like this project. It’s another cool idea of yours I would like to explore. Just to confirm, In order to implement it one will need; Purple Hat and IoTT stick, correct? Free choice of control station as long as we have the loconet TCP network available, correct? Maybe in the future you can add the list of specific components used in the project under the video? (Like a project kit package)
This video helped me undestand the process a lot. It sounds like there is some trial and error in setting decoder CVs that affect speed matching, but that are not adjusted when speed matching.
Just finished getting everything set up. Thank you for the detailed video instructions. I added a "Liter Energy Battery #103450" to the purple hat. The IoTT Stick got very hot, so I removed the battery. The stick still functions via USB connection, but the internal battery no longer will hold a charge. What are my options?
Ahh, so LocoNet over TCP is the "better" interface method for the IOTT Stick for the ability to write CVs. So if I have both options, I should choose LocoNet over TCP, not WiThrottle.
The WiThrottle protocol unfortunately does not support CV programming, so there is no way to send the speed table values to the decoder.
Hello Hans, In your example here on the motor driver board is the power trace still uncut?
Yes, in this example I am using a standard motorshield and power it from VIN so the VIN trace remains intact. VIN, when using the DCC AUX shield can be powered with up to 18 Volts and it provides 5V to the Arduino board as well, so the onboard LDO of the Arduino is bypassed and does not heat up. Watch video #130 for more information how the AUX shield works.
Hello Hans, I setup a stand alone speed profiling station today. Dedicated DCC++EX with red head and 3m of track. Speed magic starts ok, and hangs between steep 6 and 9. Loco is buzzing like is trying to start but it probably needs few more steps. Software just doesn’t advance to higher steps. Any tips?
I like to add that all the tabs are easy to open, except the PurpleHat. It always takes several attempts
If the SpeedMagic tries 3 speed steps and the speed is not increased, the process is terminated. This is the case e.g. if you try to create a profile for a speed the loco can't reach. The same might be true in this case. You should make sure that the loco starts moving at the first speed step. Most decoders have a kick start feature that helps breaking loose the anchor of the motor. For further analysis it would be helpful if you could have a look into the loconet commands. Check the Loconet viewer of the RedHat. This would help to better understand what's going on.
@@IoTT Thanks Hans, Since your site is temporarily down, I couldn’t read your manual. Instead I watched the videos several times. I tried to stick to your instructions and one of them was to zero everything out before the test. Thank you for clarifying the test requirements for me.
Hi Hans, Great channel and some really excellent devices.
I have been trying for several hours today to get my purple hat to run speed magic. I can connect to the purple hat via the web page and everything seems to function correctly until I try to read a loco file from the roster. On clicking the button I see a list of .xml files on the screen and all my locos are there but when I select any file nothing seems to happen. The list disappears and there is no error message. I have tried two pc's with different versions of JMRI and different windows operating systems but the result is the same. My dcc system is NCE powercab but as far as I can see the problem is between purple hat and the pc. The software version on the purple hat is 1.6.5. Do you have any ideas that could help me? ........................John
When you load an xml file, there is not much visible on screen. The only thing you should see is that the address of the locomotive is displayed as assigned DCC address. This indicates that the PurpleHat has successfully assigned the DCC address via the WiThrottle interface (I assume that is what you are using as you have an NCE command station, so using the Withrottle server if JMRI is the way to go). The connection is established and if you start running the calibration test, it will use this address.
My etup is exactly as you say. When I click on the button to load the xml file the list of loco.xml files pops up. When I then click on the required file nothing happens, the file list is removed and the web page remains unchanged with no loco address shown.
Is the Withrottle populated with the address first and it then shown on the web page or is the web page populated firsr? I ask this because the loco address does not appear in the purple hat WiThrottle page on the IoTT stick display and also does not show in the jmri WiThrottle server page. The IoTTstick is however shown in the jmri Withrottle serves as a client.
I wonder if my problem is not reading the xml file or is it not being able to access the Withrottle server?
@@canalsidingsmodelrailway3411 If the stick is listed in the JMRI WiThrottle connection list, there is a connection established, so I would think that end should work. If you load an XML file, I think the Stick tries to contact the DCC address and displays it if successful. If no address is shown, I think there was a problem in the communication with the WiThrottle Server. If you want, you can send me your xml file and I can see if it loads.
@@IoTT Thank you Hans. I do seem to have run out of ideas so I will send the xml file to you. How do I do this? ..........John
@@canalsidingsmodelrailway3411 e-mail it to hans@tanner-family.org
Great series. I found the way you implemented the phases to determine the models speed very cleaver. I am interested in trying this out. Do you have a estimated time for when the purple hats will be back in stock?
Thank you. PurpleHat is actually in stock. See here for HO: www.tindie.com/products/tanner87661/purplehat-track-measuring-kit-ho-scale-flat/
You can also get kits for N or G scale. Search Tindie for PurpleHat to get all four versions listed.
@@IoTT Thankyou for your response. I will need the purple hat and a IoTT Stick Plus correct? I had the hat and stick references reversed.
@@deeprunrailroad_Mike Correct, you need a PurpleHat and a Stick. On the receiving end you need either WiThrottle or Loconet over TCP server. No problem if you run JMRI or another software or command station that supports one of these protocols.
@IoTT, I like this project. It’s another cool idea of yours I would like to explore. Just to confirm, In order to implement it one will need; Purple Hat and IoTT stick, correct? Free choice of control station as long as we have the loconet TCP network available, correct? Maybe in the future you can add the list of specific components used in the project under the video? (Like a project kit package)
Really neat.
Thanks!
Awesome!!!
Thanks!!