An Introduction To Harmonizer Pedals For Guitarists: TC Electronic Quintessence
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- Опубліковано 18 січ 2018
- An Introduction To Harmonizer Pedals For Guitarists: Tc Electronic Quintessence is by no means a comprehensive overview of the the use of harmonizers (with specific reference to guitarists). Rather, it is instead one approach to understanding harmony, modes, scales, intervals, chord functions (etc.) and then applying that knowledge to use your harmonizer pedal more effectively and, hopefully with less confusion! In the video I explain: basic scales, intervals, scales and modes, and demonstrate 'major' and 'minor' modal types, harmonizing in 3rds with and without the pedal, show the difference between extracting scales via both modulation and modes.
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www.tcelectronic.com/quintessence-harmony
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Thank you doctor. Great explanation of modes up to the 12 min mark. After that, a little sketchy. Had to rewatch a few times to get what you were talking about. Still, thanks, and looking forward to part 2.
ranradd Hi there. Yes, it's impossible to cover such a fiendish subject in such a short period of course which is why i suspect that relatively little has been said on the subject in conjunction with the tc pedal. But even a little knowledge will certainly help in to operate it. Thanks for watching.
I found the TCE Quintessence to be more compatable because of the mode choice section. Other pedals seem to randomly jump around at certain points when trying to match their note choice with the chord position (ie 3rd or4th). Selling the others to get another TCE Quintessence for my board.
helo.waht happens when you play 3th and the string gets of tune just a bit ?
This week i get my t.c. Electronic harmonizer. I.cant.wait!
I got mine today. I must say I'm fairly disappointed. Not so much in the product. I've just found that most harmony guitar solos don't stick all the parameters available. I was able to get a few like kiss Detroit Rock City harmony close but not perfect. Same with Boys are back in town. Am I missing something?
It would be nice to have one like my vocal harmonizer that feeds off the rhythm guitar chords. No need to choose modes etc.. it'd be so much easier.
Well, as I explained in the video that unless you understand the notes used in any one passage and assign the correct key and mode then you will get spurious results (actually technically correct results for that setting but it can clash with your desired results if trusting to "luck").
Best regards, Dale Harris
Well, that's a nice idea and one for the future but I'm not sure that we are there quite yet even with AI that would require the pedal to analyse over a section of music and "guess" (machine driven suggestions): but what about glitches and tracking and delay in responding to the tonality? I've tested Ai Chat GPT knowledge of music history and harmony and it was full of errors!! Even after training it would then dump that knowledge and carry on just as before!
Best regards, Dale Harris
Well done... When I first caught a glimpse of the pedal. I thought it was overkill to have the modes on there. I would have rather had more TonePrint slots..
John Cruz hi there. TC went for the most common modes (I guess that they aimed at rock/pop/folk/country styles) as opposed to what the jazz player would have wished for. Personally, I would have preferred all slots to be tone-printable so I could have synthetic modes at my disposal. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for tackling the function of modes on this pedal, and doing it well!
Hi Luke, it is a tricky subject for sure. Can I ask, do you own the TC Electronic Quintessence pedal? Or were you thinking of getting one? Or were you drawn to the subject of modes and scales? All the best and thanks for watching, Dale Harris
11:42 Poor locrian is left out in the cold again. :/
Seriously though, I can't wait until they come up with a harmonizer that will work in say: harmonic minor, harmonic Major, super locrian, hirojoshi, etc. But it's more fun to harmonize with a band mate, if and when you have them.
Hi, I'm sorry to say that you are mistaken. Just visit the TC Electronic homepage and browse their TONE PRINTS that include: half-tone dim (I presume that this is what I would call octatonic), harmonic minor, lydian flat 7, whole tone 7, lydian 3, lydian flat oct, pentatonic, super locrian, etc.
Does this harmoniser pedal have a noise gate built in for distortion and overdrive?
Hi Brett, I'm not aware of a noise gate programmed into the DSP in the pedal, although I haven't tested for noise and TC do not publish any noise-floor specifications. I would assume not, especially as TC have a specific sentry noise gate.
All the best,
Dale Harris
So...would a harmonizer be useful to a pedal (concert) harpist? I am just getting started with electronic effects for my harp. I've played acoustic forever and know nothing about pedals but I have been watching Emily Hopkins videos, I have purchased (although don't have them yet) an rc 300, pedaltrain, a transducer and amp and a couple of pedals based on Emily's experiments. Do you have suggestions for what pedals might sound interesting or be useful on a harp?
Hi, Well that's an involved question. I'll try to answer it in full but I would be better in saying it rather than tapping into my mobile phone. I'll jot my thoughts down and get back to you. Let me know how your setup sounds when it arrives, I'd be very curious. Best regards, Dale Harris
@@EverythingGuitar23 Thank you so much! And will do!
Incidentally, I did a two videos with a boss metal zone distortion pedal, one with a 24-string baroque lute and the other with an electric classical guitar. Such a pedal might freak out your harp, but it might not and will depend on your monitoring levels and your ability to dampen the non-plucked strings.
Distorted Electric Classical Guitar:
ua-cam.com/video/PYujbIOJGTI/v-deo.html
Electric Distorted Baroque Lute:
ua-cam.com/video/2dNsRkxaDwE/v-deo.html
Hello. How this pedal would work with monophonic keyboard - synthesizer?
I've seen Gary Husband use TC pedals with his keyboards (playing live with John McLaughlin's 4th Dimension) so I don't see why not the Quintessence.
@@EverythingGuitar23 Yes, but he use pedals like Delay, Reverb etc. This is specific one, it doubles the sound and makes harmony parts. So I would like to know how keyboard would behaviour, would tones be played corrrectly, how about latency etc. I tried Boss PS-6 harmonist and I am not satisfied. Harmony is not correct, when I play fast harmony tones are not correct...
@@dejanciric323 that's why i demonstrated it's tracking at super fast speeds. There's no discernible lag. I've always been really fussy about tracking speeds having played midi guitar for years and the TC is superb.
Regarding compatibility with keyboards, it's the input impedances that are crucial so if the HOF or delay works well then the Quintessence will work in exactly the same way.
The Boss hamonizers have always been glitchy. This TC one is much more stable.
Can I use this pedal just to play music, improvise, without focusing on scales, please ? Or will go out of tune ?🙏
You can try and experiment of course but the pedal responds better (as intended) when you play the correct notes of the scale. Thanks for watching. Best regards, Dale Harris
Hi Dale, would the TC Electronic Quintessence Harmonizer be able replicate Beatle guitar parts do you think? Like “And Your Bird Can Sing” etc.
Hi Andy, When I play it live with a band I play both parts solo (see the link). As demonstrated in the following link. ua-cam.com/video/FBaoWVUWgRI/v-deo.html
This is because if you were to set the TC Quintessence to E Ionian, the harmony switches from 3rds to 4ths in places in bar 2.
I hope that this helps.
Best regards, Dale Harris
@@EverythingGuitar23 Ok thanks Dale, so the harmony switching between 3rds and 4ths makes it virtually impossible on this pedal? Would this pedal work on any other harmonised Beatle solos do you think?
Which song's are you thinking of?
@@EverythingGuitar23 Come Together springs to mind, in your professional opinion would you say this pedal would work on that track or any others?
Come Together is 4ths and 5ths so that won't work either, for the entire solo. However, it is possible to do one part with the TC and the other manually. I play both at once which isn't impossible but tricky.
Hmmm yes a lot of different modes in one position and you can’t turn th knob on the fly to another scale while mid solo. By taking scales and moving the notes up the neck the harmonizer in the C setting should still track the scaled notes within that scale up the neck is what I gather?..that was what I was looking for as my question with the use of the quintessence in application more then one position while using the same scale or mode.. not how many modes you can play in one place.
1. Sounds like you want two such pedals a/b linked via say a boss ls-2.
2. Any mode will work in any octave.
Requires 9v DC power of minimum 100 mA, not 300 mA
thought this was meant to be a pedal demo not a lesson on modes
Hi Steve, Well, this pedal kind of demands something back from the player in terms of music theory and the clue is in the two-pronged title "An Introduction To...". I was setting out why not every guitarist would immediately achieve their desired results with a harmonizer pedal. Some however, already know their seven basic modes in all keys and I can obviously understand such frustration. Apologies if you fall into this latter category. These days I include chapters for easy skipping of the various sections so I have tried to improve the way that things are done here.
Best regards, Dale Harris
Unfortunately in trying to cover too many things in 1 short video you're jumping around too much and making it more complex than it is and it's already complex enough. I get what you're trying to do but too random. I suspect one can use the pedal at more than 1 level too and grow with it. Sorry for the negative feedback. You seem to know what you're talking about though.
Thanks for your feedback. I gave it 22+ minutes to give it a go. But as I have said, I might do a part II video and tackle the subject again. All the best.
Mark Knopfler.
Wait, is this a lesson on modes? I want to see/hear/learn about the TC pedal and its capabilities, not basic diatonic theory! If you dont know your basic scales, you shouldn't buy this pedal - Simple...
Thanks. Indeed, the forums are full of the following comments:
"Looks like you gotta know phyrigian, dorian scales and keys, that puts me outta the mix, tried all that back in tha day, didnt stick."
"Well that rules me out too.
Seriously, looks like heaps of fun. I love the ability to bend the double notes."
Thus, I guess, I am catering for those people who feel slightly wary of purchasing such a pedal. I was personally disappointed with the way that both TC and other reviewers talked about the pedal. They didn't possess the intricate knowledge that goes hand-in-hand with using the pedal. My video was a halfway house between introducing harmonic concepts with using the modes on the pedal and highlighting those confusing areas such as where modes overlap. I fastidiously avoid click-bait videos and I can only apologise that you were dissapointed with my work.
Best regards, Dale Harris