Mind if I ask, why not replace Shamann? "WHAT, REPLACING SHAMANN, ARE YOU INSANE?" It was my first thought too, but Seren + Raoq + Icaru allows for a lot of self-cycling of the Team Up skills. Astar honestly does enough damage by herself, but Shamann? Shamann just lack the amount of hits (even though he has THE DAMAGE). I've manage about 45 seconds doing that too, but my rune quality isn't exactly there. I had to rune Raoq a little bit tankier in order for him to not kill himself on the golems addons, but it seems to work as well.
i‘m pretty sure you can build a speed team without him but just like wind homu in giants it‘s the 100% safety net - he single handedly oneshots the boss when no stacks and armor break + heals… i struggle to rune a better alternative he‘s just too good
@@SampleTextReal Giants because this game has turned into a speed contest. At G1 siege, it's mihyang cichlid or Chandra Zen and they are all plus 210 😮💨😭
so the only time it messes me up is when she does it on Raoq, he doesn‘t use Team up which makes him not kill her which makes Seren waste the Team Up on Astar … I decided against it but I think for him only it could be a viable strategy. I‘ll swap around some will sets and give it a go… thanks for the Advice
Well darn, Wasted a lot of cannon girl dupes for skill ups since I’ve had an awakened one I invested in awhile ago and then made the second one unawakened just for necro … I could use both tho I guess ?
Awaken your cannon girl, her updated AI doesn’t enable her to use S3 there, and it’ll only make her stronger. Current watching the video so maybe you said it later.
I think Fire Harpu does a completely different thing - she‘s a low damage Support but will 100% help you clear the Dungeon but not translate well into Speed Teams
meh, i popped her into my team and it instant made it 5 sec faster with a few tweaks - im sure there is faster teams but i enjoy using her and feel like its worth the video^^
Mind if I ask, why not replace Shamann?
"WHAT, REPLACING SHAMANN, ARE YOU INSANE?"
It was my first thought too, but Seren + Raoq + Icaru allows for a lot of self-cycling of the Team Up skills. Astar honestly does enough damage by herself, but Shamann? Shamann just lack the amount of hits (even though he has THE DAMAGE).
I've manage about 45 seconds doing that too, but my rune quality isn't exactly there. I had to rune Raoq a little bit tankier in order for him to not kill himself on the golems addons, but it seems to work as well.
i‘m pretty sure you can build a speed team without him but just like wind homu in giants it‘s the 100% safety net - he single handedly oneshots the boss when no stacks and armor break + heals… i struggle to rune a better alternative he‘s just too good
I have a consistent 38 sec using that fire bat and no shamman. Target the boss not the bat when he's taken and astar will be in teamups.
for me shaman is the heal that I need
So many sleepy cannon girls when their s3 was fixed already you're just missing out on awake stats now
I like to be different >:3
@@SampleTextReal Being different would be awakening her.
Great video! I love your guides, especially on how to make farming better, just like the old days ❤
I‘m not the most theory craft heavy dude but I hope it helps people with the Fever Event! What are you grinding rn?:)
@@SampleTextReal Giants because this game has turned into a speed contest. At G1 siege, it's mihyang cichlid or Chandra Zen and they are all plus 210 😮💨😭
same. very much relatable ugh
Oh god i wanna play summoners war again. Maybe after my midterms
Its perfect to study next to, good luck on your Mid terms tho I‘m sure you‘ll do great
this vedio is absolutely a 10/10! Guuud stuff
thanks gabel
Do you consider putting a will set to harpu, raoq and shaman? As astar might randomly s2 and silence your mons
so the only time it messes me up is when she does it on Raoq, he doesn‘t use Team up which makes him not kill her which makes Seren waste the Team Up on Astar … I decided against it but I think for him only it could be a viable strategy.
I‘ll swap around some will sets and give it a go… thanks for the Advice
you can awaken the cannor girl , her third ability is fixed
but she still uses it in boss fights from what I‘ve seen, right? :o
@@SampleTextReal She does not. The Necro boss shield isn't a buff that she can strip, so she doesn't use s3.
Well darn,
Wasted a lot of cannon girl dupes for skill ups since I’ve had an awakened one I invested in awhile ago and then made the second one unawakened just for necro … I could use both tho I guess ?
@@SampleTextReal she never use it in any stages of a run
@@SampleTextRealno she doesn't. Im using an awakened one
Awaken your cannon girl, her updated AI doesn’t enable her to use S3 there, and it’ll only make her stronger.
Current watching the video so maybe you said it later.
i never bothered checking lmao XD good to knowww
Cool, no need to write a comment for that with my bad english.
@@anthonyfloris980 youre doing great homie
Exactly, Seren moving before roaq is how I built mine, and but my roaq is on all fight, and crit, on slot 4
that's good too - easier to rune that way but im sure still rather fast ^-^
@@SampleTextReal , I think my Asta is a bit too slow
@@miltonx1277 just for the record, she does not need to be my speed, just needs to be faster than the waves ^^
@@SampleTextReal what's the wave SPD?
@@miltonx1277shamann need 51 speed with the 15% speed building.
So 178 speed too outspeed.
Probably waves at 177 speed.
Are you back into SW ? The king is back ?
aw never left. just didn‘t post videos on this channel anymore :3 I actually produce content for com2us EU now too since 3 years
What's the turn order, nvm, you said so
This may be a stupid question but does fire work as long as i dont awaken
I think Fire Harpu does a completely different thing - she‘s a low damage Support but will 100% help you clear the Dungeon but not translate well into Speed Teams
@@SampleTextReal sorry I wasn't specific I meant fire cannon girl
@@DrPebis Fire don't have a usable leader skill, if you didn't missed the HOH of the light one, the light one can be used
What should I use if I don't have Cannon girl? I'm a beginner.
She‘s kinda mandatory for Armor Break, Shaina is another Option even without Second Twin
@@SampleTextReal I'll just wait to summon her then thank you
i have 40s with icaru, can i do this faster? with harp?
for me icaru was 5 sec slower which was why i made this video, i guess it depends on your runes cuz ofc you‘d need a much different set on seren
no because necro bs mechanic
you know you can awake canon girl now right? It's been fixed like 6 months ago lol
is it 100%? cuz mine seems to still derp especially s3 during boss is worthless :/
@@SampleTextReal huh? Mine has never ever done S3 in Necro like at all. It will never do S3 unless the enemy has buffs which Necro doesn't have
Why do all of your monsters have such high speed?
I thought the speed cap was at 120 for NB12?
just to deal with trash stages but its not required
I dont have Astar, any other option to replace her?
the team kinda needs astar for the chip in waves, i think you'd need to build a team with twins then
@@SampleTextReal Twins more Who?
@@thevikingshow581 boomerang and chakram warrior, but prolly from water if im right
You can get away with a shield set for Astar.
so double fight shield?
How about not having astar?
haha good luck on your scrolls, she‘s easy to pull >>>
awaken her, for some reason her ai worked better for me when she was awakened + she doesnt use that s3
I still never used my shamann yet lol
100% recommend it!
0:45 pretty fast.. not. change necro than its fast maybe 30 secs
what comp are you running ?^^
@@SampleTextReal the same as you, but icaru for seren
I thought seren didn't have right AI?
meh, i popped her into my team and it instant made it 5 sec faster with a few tweaks - im sure there is faster teams but i enjoy using her and feel like its worth the video^^
@@SampleTextReal yhea not bashing your video of course it's a nice team but i'm just curious how good or bad the AI is