Every Time a Primarch Has Killed Their Own Loyal Space Marines | Warhammer 40k Lore
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If only the Primarchs had a FUM device to help them calm down as oppose to their chain smoking habits, maybe they wouldn't kill their own loyal sons... Except Perturabo he would definitely still do it
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getting the dog points in the video, well played
A Interaction for the Interaction God, a Comment for the Comment Throne, for the Almighty Algorithm
has Guilliman ever been on a rowboat?
Hello Majorkill,
Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
make a vid about space wolves and talk about rollo
The lion could've just gone like "Nameal (however the fuck you spell his name) buddy how about you go fist fight that demon over there for like 3 minutes and maybe your perspective on librarians might change"
Oddly enough, he probably would have been able to. Faith in the Emperor is still Faith in the Emperor whether you call him a god or believe in His Imperial Truth.
Lion: OK, boys, line up behind Lemiel, se how far we get😂
Nameal should have been the one who made a complaint about the orders of his Primarch, told he would report it and why he thought it was wrong, he was not the one who was given in his opinion a unlawful order, he rebelled against his leader, and it was not the first time he was on the wrong side, first one Caliban where he joined a rebel faction. He was a just killing, he was a treat.
Based
It's Nemiel.
PUPPY!!!!!!!!!
As I saw this comment there was an ad happening, and it confused me. Then I see the video start and yelled puppy as well
I have found my people, cuz PUPPY!!!!
I concur, PUPPY!!!!!
Puuuuuuuup!
Ruff ruff *wag wag wag*
Video Idea: What if the surviving loyalist primarchs never went missing after the Horus Heresy.
That would be very nice!
The imperium would be less fucked
The Imperium might actually very better off if that was the case😅
fuck the idea cuse PUPPY
It's easy for GW to handwave the missing primarchs by saying: they had to go away to the Eye of Terror because they kept the REALLY bad stuff at bay. We know that to be a fact with Corvus keeping the Word Bearers down for 10k years.
"-and ate their corpses." mans entirely unhinged even at his 'best' XD
Another rare Doggo cameo I see.
Do you know which video it was in which the puppy was there last time?
@@salphoris911 "How does the Imperium reclaim corrupted worlds?"
"I thought... I thought you were stronger!"
-The Lion, probably
Apparently, he forgot that he is a primarch.... minus points for him for that
Always punches down on Space Wolfs, but secretly loves them. Knew it !
Angron: "None of you are my sons because you all blindly obey me"
Also Angron, when a Loyal Son stands up to him:
IF Vulkan ever had to kill one of his sons, It would 100% be a mercy killing, and He'd do it in such a way that it was instant and no pain. Then personally give him his funeral rites, and probably engrave his name into his battle plate. Then, whatever hurt his son, will find out what happens when Vulkan stops being so nice.
What if he died of some super rare disease caused by a virus that only exists on some random moon of a planet in an area where the astronomicon doesn’t even reach?
Ya I can’t imagine that Vulkan would do such a thing to his own sons or any member of the Impirium.
What would he interesting is to have story were Vulkan has to work with eldary. Like to see if he would be as productive of there lives as he is with any humans. (Or really any zenos)
@@historytank5673i dunno man, vulkan does not have a good record of interactions with them. With two particularly nasty episodes
My brightness is low, so the pup just looks like an amorphous blob of darkness
Very good darkness.
@@brucemcleod4897😂✅
More cameo with the pupper please!
Vulkan proving why he's the best Primarch by not being on this list.
“Which is pretty surprising”
Vulkan would die a thousand times over in place of his sons tbf
He has the least problematic sons, so it was obvious this may be the case but then again he got angry enough to kill an Elder child so not exactly incapable of unreasonable rage (I Know he regretted his actions).
The deaths that Sanguinius, Corvus Corax and Guilliman gave to their own sons are actually signs of thier love seeing as they felt the need to do it themselves rather than just order another son to do it; Sanguinius love for his son's was so great that it was the only thing close to getting him to make a deal with Chaos (the promise of a cure for the red thirst).
Lorgar has not killed any of his loyal sons.
He should reconsider.
yeah! did worse though.....
With the loyal choir boys
I think right before meeting the Emperor, he killed one of his top guys(I forgot his name) who helped him take over Colchis. Basically, there was a power struggle over what Lorgar's world view would be between Kor Pheron and a former school teacher turned soldier. Kor Pheron believed in imposing religious world views through force, and the other guy wanted to use education to let people learn on their own how to be religious (he also wanted to abolish slavery, which the priest class had tons of).
Kor Pheron tended to be EXTREMELY physically and emotionally abusive to Lorgar in the name of his religious world view. This is happening for years in the story so far. He acts extremely unfair to Lorgar and everyone in Lorgar's army hates Kor Pheron for being a mega asshole to their religious savior for basically sadistic and selfish reasons.
During the final debate, Kor Pheron then starts abusing Lorgar again to convince him to agree with him. The other guy then tries to kill Kor Pheron to defend Lorgar, but then Lorgar kills the guy with his mace, cementing Kor Pheron's world view as the dominant one for Lorgar going forward.
I think the message of that story is that Lorgar believes that the gods of Colchis are capricious and cruel so to properly religiously appreciate them you need to be an uber piece of shit and not some generic enlighten progressive. For Lorgar, properly worshipping gods takes precedent over literally everything else, even the existence of humans.
Big daddy Lorgar would never kill any of his choir boys.
He touches them.
How I wish that Corvus would've killed him on Istvaan or when he was a Demon-Bird. I seriously can't stand Lorgar.
1 Pupper!
2. Great art!
3. My soul is still broken over that moment.
The scene of corax killing the raptors legitimately had me choking back tears while picking orders in a warehouse.
The Fate of Nemiel really was tragic since he was right, afterall the Heresy was caused by marines being more loyal to their Primarchs then The Emperor, so Nemiel was a model marine in going against his father to uphold The Emperor's decree, but the Lion was also right, they could not survive if no one other then him could fight back, they had to adapt, even if it meant going against the Emperor's word
The problem with nemiel is that he didn’t stop to think about WHY lion was breaking the edict. There’s the letter of the law and then there’s the spirit of it. The edict at the council of nikea was made to protect humanity from using warp magic flippantly and falling to chaos. Lion wanted to break the edict specifically so he could protect his legion from the warp
Nemiel should have made a complaint about the orders of his Primarch, told he would report it to the Emperor and why he thought it was wrong, he was not the one who was given in his opinion a unlawful order, he rebelled against his commanding officer and the chain of command, the military is not a debate club, in a war you don’t start to debate such things with your leader like it’s a democracy and you have a debate, chain of command has to be followed and you can at most make an official complaint and refuse yourself to follow what you see as a unlawful order, and hope you are not executed by your commanding officer for your dangerous refusal to obey orders, if your rights about it he might be executed himself but you will still be dead, which is why you probably should be careful about not following orders in a war zone, a just verdict by the Lion, debates are for peace time not for combat.
@@Doc51499 oh he knew, and I'm sure he also saw the logic in it, but he was a chaplin, a role that is, very specifically, there to make sure the legions stay pure and keep to the Emperor's word. The logic of the breach matters little to him, only the fact that there was a breach
@@eemelisaurila9940exactly, dudes job was to ensure the legion remains pure to emps will and he tried just that. lion shouldnt have killed him. imprisoned him maybe, but not kill.
Both were right and wrong. Heres lie the limitations of absolute faith and decree. You ought to remain flexible in your approach in any situation while staying in the boundaries of whats authorized.
"Everytime Space Marines Fought with the Inquisition" would be a cool video.
A video on the relationships, between the first founding chapters and there most prominent successors would be cool
8:10
Farith Redloss: We all heard what happened to brother Redemptor Nemiel
Zahariel: He payed the ultimate price for his loyalty
Ah nobody is exempted to good ol' teamkill.
Said a helldiver.
That was then promptly shot by a comissar for incompetence.
This will do the job
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OMG I love that picture of Lion karate chopping Nemiel's head off. Definitely not his greatest moment but still a potent scene that would reverberate down the road as the story unfolded.
Also horus and lorgar certainly ordered the death of their loyal sons. As you mentioned with fulgrim, they culled the emperor loyalists in their mist, who were still loyal to their primarch at the time.
I was just thinking that, lorgar and horus definitely killed their own marines
can i pet that dooog?
Love the reference
Alternate title: Every time the Primarchs had an Angron moment
Gotta love how feral the Lion looks in the thumbnail. ^^
(And how cutesy Rollo the doggo looks.)
That thumbnail slaps!
@@TrueTributes13 One might even say...
_It _*_roars._* 😅
@@Archon3960 lmfao😂😂😂, that was too good😂😂
@@Archon3960 i checked out your channel, you have some good stuff! That most recent video was awesome🙌🙌!
Beautiful doggo hes a good boy
THE GOODEST OF BOYS
That looks exactly like the kind of dog I expected Majorkill to have.
Oh look, Lemon Russian reborn into the physical realm once more.
You should give us your reaction to the female custode they just unveiled
That ad where you actually dropped it, makes me want it more
Nemiel was NOT the paragon you describe and this is effectively his second or third appearance in the epic. In his first appearance he is actually a traitor to The Lion and only Zahariel stops him from carrying out a plot on Caliban. Also Nemiel was only technically correct about following the Edict in that moment. He was dead wrong in every other way and SHOULD have been heavily punished in some form. Fair to say The Lion just ending him is overkill and hard to justify if Nemiel's past is unknown. But at least he didn't suffer.
Fk. The thumbnail slaps hard. WoW. Lion is looking cool
Man I am on a 2-hour Drive finished all the videos of yours that I saved for this drive I add 30 more minutes left to my drive and you pop this out just in time
Nemiels death is genuinely badass and one of ny favorite moments in the horus heresy
nemiel argued with his dad and unlocked 3rd person mode
Superb video as always @majorkill.
Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc
9:53 “murder hobos” 😂
Warhammer's The Exodite got me intetested in Tau Navy. Please make a video about them, their strategy and battles they fought against Imperium Navy.
How about, from most to least, rank which primarch each chaos god would want the most
Aw who's a good lil boy!! Rollo is a handsome pup and glad to see he's gotta a happy home! Thanks for the always awesome work Major! Keep it up and good luck on your road to a Milli!
I keep trying to spread your best in class 40K channel to the best of my ability over here in the land of your Canadian shock troop Brothers! 🙏🪬♾️👽🍀
This is another one of those moments where someone's loyalty outweighs their common sense. And when it calls into question if the Emperor himself might have been wrong about something. Which is a fact that most of the time he won't even let be spoken aloud. Like the time he thought about killing Sanguinis for refusing to follow orders and sacrifice many members of his legion in a self-decimating suicidal mission. The Emperor had a great reason for canceling all of the librarians and forcing them to act as normal space marines again. However the main reason why he did it comes off more petty than it does sensible. And not only that at a time when demons and chaos mutated astartes are all over the place sabotaging and destroying the Imperium, having loyal psykers and blanks are probably needed at an all-time high. That's like if you find out people in the special forces might be traitors to whatever country they come from, but you don't know which one of them it might be. So you just try to kill off all of the special forces, there are probably many loyal and still usable people among them. So capturing/arresting and interrogating them is definitely the smarter option. But after Horus' betrayal the Emperor just straight up said; “All warrior psychics have to pretend to be normies again. No matter how many of your brothers die and no matter if you die. You can never use brain blasting lightning from your fingertips again”. Which is once again extremely stupid. Like in this situation with the Lion and only he, with his Primarch aura could do anything against the demons attacking the Dark Angels until one of them essentially broke his oath to the emperor and hit him with the chidori from Naruto. And I have a feeling that he took the information just as well as Dorn did nearly beating Nathaniel Garo to death, although Big E probably psychically eviscerated the poor person, and half of their family just because, after being passed that message.
The thing about the Lion killing Nemiel, is that it kinda makes a bit of sense if you understand how the Lion thinks.
He is literally incorruptible, stated many times in the lore, and he is the most loyal to the Emperors cause, being one of his only sons that truly understands what the Emperor is "about".
He is very-VERY pragmatic and rational.
He is in the middle of a huge fight against demons, and getting the short end of the stick.
A solution presents itself, and one of his own sons calls him a traitor. Factor in the things written above...
He tries to reason, but what Nemiel says goes against everything he is and wants at that moment. So in a fit of rage, he shuts him down. I don't think he wanted to kill him, he just got so hurt by those words, that it was one of the very few times in his existence, where a moment of irrationality overwhelmed him and he acted on a whim.
Primarchs are human after all, and they make mistakes.
Video Idea: what would have changed had Jaghatai and Fulgrim landed on their "intended" planets?
Nemiel was literally getting his brothers killed because he was too stubborn and obstinate to realize that the Edict needed to be broken. The Lion tried 3 times to explain and when his son still refused, the Lion dealt with the obstacle. It is sad but needed to happen.
0:22 Space wolf
I got a video idea you should do; A detailed description of the interior of every race’s living quarters is like craftworlds, hive slums, pleasure worlds, etc.
Lorgar sent the astartes that were much into vengeance that into faith to Calth, it was a silent purge.
I think Axl Rose is a true son of Perturabo. He's always breaking shit, he lashes out when he's humiliated, and even his biggest fans will say he's a dick.
Alphalegion does it like one of those Hitman games. You still get silent assassin, if you just kill everyone. Their primarch being on top of their game are no exceptions.
Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a God and had created the esslarcy the imperial cult in order to defeat chaos gods
That smile as your doggo gives you kisses in the intro... I always suspected MajorKill actually had a heart, but now it's confirmed. Genuine joy caught on camera.
Damn, that dog got big quick. You've been feeding him good.
What was the name of that Thousand Son that tried to contact the Space Wolves and stop the Burning of Prospero?
I mean, are you really surprised Vulkan didn't kill one of his sons. Bone breaking hugs on other legions come close, but not nearly. Now, if his brothers sons were hurting some helpless people, he is the Lord of Drakes.
How hilariously ironic would it be if konrad kurze was secretly a perpetual, only finding out after he died.
How pissed would he be? He would hate it
Dorn sacrificing Camba Diaz at Saturnine?
My man had to explain to me that I was thinking of the wrong type of librarians… I’m new to 40k as I’m a D&D girl.
I want to get into D&D but I dont know where to start. Can you give any advice? I am a 40K fan for a decade now.
@@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 I have a bit of D&D stuff on my channel, but it’s mostly food. I’d suggest finding a group either online (Facebook is pretty good) or through a local gaming store. The best way to learn is to just dive in and play. I can’t get used to Orks instead of Orcs 😂
Hello Majorkill,
Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
Look at that beautiful puppy it's grown so much
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Jaghatai also personally killed Hasik Noyan-Khan (one of his pre crusade companions) after the attempted coup and Lorgar strangled Kor Phaeron very close to death once it was revealed he'd been living non imperial religions alive on conquered worlds.
I know lograr didn’t technically kill one of his own but that’s not for a lack of trying. When Erebus killed Argel tal he told kharn. At that point in the heresy that’s the equivalent of getting someone killed via swatting. The only reason it didn’t work was because this is Erebus. We could probably argue all day about whether or not Erebus counts as loyal to lorgar or if he’s just out for himself but he considered himself destiny’s hand and as such he and lorgar were both in cahoots with chaos.
Nemiel had it coming. While the author just wanted to kill a named dude he accidentally hit on an important point. When the sovereign is out of contact the general makes the rules. Art of War Chapter 8 verse 3. "There are roads which must not be followed, armies which must be not attacked, towns which must not be besieged, positions which must not be contested, commands of the sovereign which must not be obeyed."
Ma quanto è cresciuto! ❤
Il cane che ti lecca la faccia mentre parli di Primarchs che sterminano i loro Space Marine è bellissimo, ho già visto e apprezzato quasi tutti i tuoi video ma per sta cazzata del cane che ti lecca mi iscrivo al canale 🐕🤟
If you combine various limbs that Ferrus Manus has "encouraged" his sons to replace with iron then maybe it adds up to a whole Space Marine? 🤔
Attempt 49:
What if the Primarchs had been found in the order of their creation.
JOIN ME MY BROTHERS
Of cpurse the big black cuddely man would not kill any of his sons.
Is it pre or post-heresy Horus we are talking about here he sure did murder his legion loyalists at the Isban drop massacre
Make dog new host. For Fenris!
Hey Majorkill, I don’t thinks you’ll be playing Custodies anymore.
I thougt that horus killed one of his comanders during the end of Sige of Terra on Vengefull spirit when he orderd the shields of the sihp to be shut.
Ngl if i told my supersoldier adopted son to do something that would save him and all his bros and explained it like 3 times and he was still just going no no emperor said don't do that then i might have ganked him too
Ferrus has killed or ordered a loyal marine to be killed! In book where he is separated from the legion and gets those eldar visions, on the surface of the planet there is a battle and one of his sons discards his cyborg part to destroy some disruption field. After the fight the first captain sugests to Ferrus that he should be killed for that dispite saving them all and Ferrus agrees
Vid Idea - What if Corvus killed Lorgar on Istvaan? What would he be doing now?
Puppy!!! *devolves into asking who’s a good pupper*
Day 51 of asking for a dedicated series of videos detailing in depth the Lion El'Heresy
no wonder the loyalist world eaters were so ready to fight their own primarch on isstvan
A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great
oh nice floof, hes like a little grizzly bear
Gonna need there to be a puppy cameo in every video from now on kthanks
Now the prime-pup had become Prime-doggo, serving the mighty majorkill legion, bringing calendars and cosplay for the glory of the imperium
Lorgar and Horus did not DELETE their own loyalist sons? Well, there was that thing called Istvahn III.
Major Overkill, this question may sound ridiculous.. but given the fact that the Imperium feels like they're "isolated" and if you're a lone wolf, you're pretty much on your own...
What if the Imperium had internet?
Video (series) idea: What would an alternative timeline look like, where every Primark chose the opposite loyalty?
Rollo is gonna be one beeeeg boi
I legit cried at the raptors. That shit burnt my soul
Looks like someone got his own dire wolf.
Video idea: the Primarchs closest council/advisers and who they were i.e. The Mournival, The Rehati, The Trident, The Kryoptera
female custodes... GW just made female custodes.
According to GW, they always existed 🙄 😕 😒. I was hoping for some lore to introduce them
Me: *"Oh look, another lore vid OMG A PUPPER"*
10:50 Horus killed Iacton in front of Loken and lorgar "purged" his Legion not sure how though
I'm probably wrong about this but isn't the Red Thirst caused by Sanguinius dying to Horris during the heresy? If so how is Sanguinius attacking any own men being affected by the Red Thirst? If I'm correct that Sanguinius dying to Horris during the heresy is the cause of the Red Thirst, he shouldn't be alive to be killing his marines being affect by the Red Thirst right? Or is the Red Thirst something different then what I'm thinking of?
Black rage is what you are thinking of. Red thirst is their base gene flaw
@@logangodofcandy Ahh thank you brother!🐐
Haven't watched your videos is a while. Nice to see how much you've grown and will absolutely have to catch back up to see more of that adorable pup
Puppers! The grim darkness of the far future is no match for pawsomeness.
Dorn is the surprising one, he has a bit of a rage issue rivaling that of Sangie and Angie.
Rollo is turning into a Handsome beast! He's gotten a bit chonkier since last we saw Lil mate!
Majorkill and one of his souvenirs from fenris
You have to have that Goodiest boy in the start of ever video or I will literally give myself to the dark eldar 😭🙏🏻
Horus never killed his sons ? istvan 3 remember ?
Also Erebus let slip that the Word Bearers had out of screen purges.
insane growth in just two months