Stargate: Lantean Drone Weapons - Spacedock Short

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  • Spacedock takes a brief look at the powerful Drone Weapons of Stargate's Ancient Lanteans
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  • @jossgoyanko7006
    @jossgoyanko7006 6 років тому +519

    God, these things have such a uniquely beautiful aesthetic. You see giant laser beams and supernukes in future fantasy all the time, but these things were just so visually distinct. Like the lightsabers of space combat, they were truly an elegant weapon from a more civilized age.

    • @ILikeMyPrivacytbt
      @ILikeMyPrivacytbt 5 років тому +23

      Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side kid.

    • @Saanichian
      @Saanichian 5 років тому +12

      John Doe I used to wonder that myself. Thought it was a bunch of mumbo-jumbo-magical power holding together good, evil, the dark side and the light. Crazy thing is, it's true. The Force, the Jedi, all of it. It's all true.

    • @RyanAggabao
      @RyanAggabao 5 років тому +12

      This does remind me of the heavy hitters of the Protoss forces in the game "Starcraft" -- Carrier and Reaver. Graceful little Interceptors and Scarabs dealing death and pewpew in their own little ways.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 4 роки тому +3

      A lot Infos in this Videos are just Assumptions or plane made up.
      Some even very DARING! Like that they Return after being depleted, which i've never seen - you?
      A lot is therefore Wrong in this Video.

    • @yazanmowed
      @yazanmowed 4 роки тому +7

      Slevin Channel Yeah they can return according to cannon, but when the Terrans use them it is always a difficult situation that along with the danger and their general inexperience with using them in the most effective way possible, the Drones are almost always drained of their energy supply and as such explode before returning.

  • @ZeeZeeBun
    @ZeeZeeBun 4 роки тому +174

    I've always liked these things.. They are like the final, logical evolution of a projectile weapon.

    • @ZeeZeeBun
      @ZeeZeeBun 3 роки тому +27

      @Samuel Franklin Less about the shape... More about it being a smart projectile with long range, ability to change direction on a whim, able to punch through an object multiple times before detonating, able to do so in swarms... etc..

    • @tylersoto7465
      @tylersoto7465 2 роки тому +1

      True , a puddle jumper is armed with 12 drones and a cloak and if you put a tactical nuke under it it can take out a fleet of wraith ships , 8 drones can take out a hive and 3 for a cruiser, Just put the cloak on sneak into hive ship bay drop nuke , fly out and shoot drone to take cruisers let nuke go off destroying hive and escape to a stargate etc and repeat

    • @rommdan2716
      @rommdan2716 2 роки тому +3

      @@tylersoto7465 It put into consideration how numerous the wraiths where

  • @slothystyle
    @slothystyle 4 роки тому +74

    I wish the show would have done an episode with the use of the atlantean drones on an Ori ship just so we as an audience can see how effective it is on their shields.

    • @luminatrixfanfiction
      @luminatrixfanfiction 3 роки тому +16

      There is already an episode where drones were used against an Ori Ship. Season 10, Episode 13. Sam in an alternate reality where the Ori ships already attempted to attack Earth but the Ori ships were driven off when the Ancient Weapon Platform fired drones at the Ori ships.
      That suggests that the Ori knew the drones were powerful enough to destroy their ships since they high-tailed it out of the system after it activated.

    • @samuelhellewell2880
      @samuelhellewell2880 Рік тому +2

      Sadly, we don’t actually SEE it tho

    • @Dan250
      @Dan250 5 місяців тому

      Well, yes, it's a pity that we didn't see it. So that we can see it while shouting: hey, I'm going to frakking kill everyone!!!

  • @MrSedsone
    @MrSedsone 7 років тому +518

    1:57 I cant be the only one who thinks that shot as a waste, I mean 3 drones to take down 1 wraith dart?

    • @Spacedock
      @Spacedock  7 років тому +222

      Yeah it was, especially given that two drones can knock out a Ha'tak, but we can probably assume that since Sheppard was using both Ship-Mounted Drones and a Neural Interface for the very first time, he likely just emptied the rack and launched everything at once, either just to be sure or because he didn't have time to figure out how to use the weapons with more finesse.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 7 років тому +157

      He's probably still applying what he knows from Airforce training, where its common tactics to fire missiles in volleys of two or more, to ensure a kill and this is his first time engaging a Dart in ship to ship combat and so doesn't know yet how many drones is sufficient, so goes for overkill to be on the safe side.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 7 років тому +35

      There's also the fact that there are different drone sizes, ranging from point-defense microdrones to the large units fired by Auroras and Cityships. it could be possible that Puddle Jumpers fire smaller drones.
      That being said, one of those should still be able to take out multiple fighters. Those were the ones that took out a Ha'Tak, after all.

    • @Ziffidel
      @Ziffidel 7 років тому +32

      Please note that you are correct. At the time of Sheppard firing those drones, they only ever saw the drones once, at the antarctic base. At that point of the series, the Tar'ri didn't fully understand the weapon. Spacedock, he was in fact using it for the first time. Before that episode, he only activated a star-chart of the galaxy which is very different form controlling drones.

    • @gatebuffles
      @gatebuffles 7 років тому +3

      +weldonwin this is the best explanation i ever heard of this.

  • @SangTheCryptek
    @SangTheCryptek 3 роки тому +61

    A potential weakness of this weapon system that never really gets explored in the show is their relatively slow travel speed, deployment time, and short range. We see it take sometimes upwards of a whole minute for these things to be released from a Lantean ship and finally make contact with a target. The weapon really does entirely rely on superior Lantean shield and hyperdrive technology to jump into extreme close proximity to their enemy and release them so their target can't react. I gotta imagine if the range wasn't close enough, a giant flak field could act as a shield destroying all the drones as they moved in.

    • @alexrossouw7702
      @alexrossouw7702 2 роки тому +6

      Good point, but speed and individual survivablility isn't needed in swarm tactics, simply by the fact you've overwhelmed the enemy with sheer numbers. Also the form one part of an array of Lantean weapons, so lot's of punches and kicks, and drones on top of that.

    • @tylersoto7465
      @tylersoto7465 2 роки тому +1

      True , a puddle jumper is armed with 12 drones and a cloak and if you put a tactical nuke under it it can take out a fleet of wraith ships , 8 drones can take out a hive and 3 for a cruiser, Just put the cloak on sneak into hive ship bay drop nuke , fly out and shoot drone to take cruisers let nuke go off destroying hive and escape to a stargate etc and repeat

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 роки тому +8

      It's worth noting that we can never be sure how much a drone's perceived inefficiency is due to human unfamiliarity with the technology and inexperience with controlling drones.

    • @nihilityjoey
      @nihilityjoey 2 роки тому +4

      What? Where are you getting the idea of limited range from? And what difference would it make about the ships shields hyperdrive...........when the weapons GO THROUGH SHIELDS? Seriously here man, how is this flak field going to destroy a weapon that cuts through anything seen like butter? The drones are controlled through the chair interface neurologically, and as we've seen ancient tech using their mental capabilities was effective over extra galactic distances. There is no weakness there. Other than your own making.

    • @orcmcc
      @orcmcc 2 роки тому +2

      @@nihilityjoey The limited range (due to the limited energy supply) and slow deployment time (compared to lasers/beams) means the crew is dependant on there defensive systems (shield, armour, flak, etc) tanking the first few hits from there opponent, or being able to close the distance fast enough to minimise the time-to-hot post launch. A Flak field would be effective because the energy field around the drone gets depleted when hits solid matter. Hence the 2-3 pass throughs before detonation. If you can drain that energy supply with multiple flak hits before it can impact the target, you can either force a premature detonation, or limit the drone to a singular pass though. Against a swarm it wouldn't be worth it, but against a puddle jumper's contingent, it may keep your own ship alive.

  • @henchmen999
    @henchmen999 7 років тому +296

    Gateship? Come on now, Rodney, It's a puddlejumper and you know it.

    • @RhodesianBushmaster
      @RhodesianBushmaster 7 років тому +25

      I hate to say it, but they were most likely referred to as gateships by the Alterans, as the Asurans referred to them as gateships as well.

    • @henchmen999
      @henchmen999 7 років тому +34

      Yeah, but they're asses kicked by Wraith and Replicators.
      Screw them.
      They're puddlejumpers.

    • @madzac1000000
      @madzac1000000 7 років тому +10

      compromise and callem gatejumpers

    • @hyperionalziz6858
      @hyperionalziz6858 7 років тому +5

      I always hated that Shepard was giving stupid names to advanced tech. Puddle jumper are the most idiotic name you could give to such ship. Gateship is what it is. It has specially designed to be that.

    • @henchmen999
      @henchmen999 7 років тому +9

      You were on of those jackasses that called it a "Zed" PM, weren't you?

  • @darthvex1971
    @darthvex1971 3 роки тому +13

    My absolute favorite SciFi weapon. It is never used properly, but the effects are stunning. Awesome.

    • @evanboll4651
      @evanboll4651 Рік тому +3

      Well, everyone who was actually trained in it's use is either dead, effectively a pacifist, held back by rules, too arrogant to even consider it, imprisoned, or never got the chance to explain it to anyone before dying of old age.

    • @darthvex1971
      @darthvex1971 Рік тому +1

      @@evanboll4651 As a military veteran, I know weapons and if I encountered these, I would use them far better than they did in the show. I get your points and agree. Further, it was a show so allowances are made.

  • @frenchie657
    @frenchie657 7 років тому +139

    so basically their the most advanced missile system in existance. you can kind of see why the lanteans were such pacifists if all they had to do was point at something and the drones would smite them.

    • @xdarrenx
      @xdarrenx 7 років тому +21

      In the real world you'd send an infiltration team to plant explosives on critical locations. This is basically the end game of such objectives.

    • @aegis0302
      @aegis0302 6 років тому +2

      Alex Miller in the box we jam all transmissions to prevent ieds from exploding. Since these are remotely operated and or track the target its perusing, jamming all frequencies should stop these "smart bullets". These are then the most ineffective high cost items ever produced.

    • @dukoth6552
      @dukoth6552 6 років тому +21

      that's assuming they utilize a system that could be jammed (they could use an advanced form of direct communication like fly by wire just without the wire), and don't forget that they can act independently

    • @BlueGlowingLight4
      @BlueGlowingLight4 6 років тому +15

      Except that even without orders they're programmed to seek out targets independently. IF I were programming such weapons I'd ensure that they maneuvered each making considerations for the probable targets that the other nearby drones would be seeking.

    • @firefox30570
      @firefox30570 6 років тому +20

      Elziad not even mentioning that they aren't using radio waves, but more likely a subspace communication, which isn't easy to jam. And electrical attacks like EMP doesn't work either, cause each of them has a shield to protect itself, so it may reach the target. Truly the most op weapon of all time.

  • @JJ-eg4zm
    @JJ-eg4zm 7 років тому +45

    i would like to point out one flaw in an other wise superb video, in the episode which the mini drones are featured STA s4e14 they state that the planet is a testing ground where the Lanteans first developed drone technology, so it is more logical to assume that the mini drones are a early prototype rather then a special anti personal version.

    • @JoniWan77
      @JoniWan77 7 років тому +9

      In this episode it is stated that it was, yes, a tinkering ground, but that the little drones were still modelled after their bigger counterparts. However, the anti-person drones might have been never used in combat until then. So I guess, both is kind of right?

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 6 років тому +5

      As in they developed the full sized first and later came up with the idea of making a smaller version (as technology advances stuff get's smaller) But they had to leave the planet before deploing them into actual combat.

    • @tuscan9617
      @tuscan9617 5 років тому +4

      The Drones at the Antarctic Outpost were millions of years old, far older than the Lanteans development of the smaller planetary Drones in Pegasus. They were a new development of a type of Drone based on their larger counterparts. That also says something about the Lantean Military that they never upgraded the Drones and used the same type for millions of years. Whether that was because they were a perfect weapon with no room for improvement or because the Ancients sucked at war i dont know.

    • @justus_6122
      @justus_6122 5 років тому +2

      @@tuscan9617 Ancients never had the Need to upgrade their military tech. As it was already totaly OP

    • @tuscan9617
      @tuscan9617 5 років тому

      @@justus_6122 And yet they are extinct

  • @linusorm
    @linusorm 7 років тому +102

    I'd confidently argue that the drones is the most powerful ship to ship weapon of any specie in any serie/movie/games.
    truly a glorious weapon

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 7 років тому +7

      What about the main weapon on Space Battleship Yamato?

    • @ValkGame
      @ValkGame 7 років тому +41

      The Wave Motion Gun on the Yamato is less of a ship-to-ship weapon and more of a strategic 'screw you' button.

    • @lanchester101
      @lanchester101 7 років тому +7

      Kevin Fawcett it's more like a "HERE IS THE FUCK YOU THAT YOU ORDERED" button

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 7 років тому +3

      My main point, was that the Wave Motion Gun, is used in space combat against other starships, therefor I define it as a ship-to-ship weapon and given it can wipe out whole fleets in a single firing and is capable of being used as a strategic space-to-surface weapon, I'd say it was more devestating that the Lantean drones, at least at long ranges.

    • @MsSomeonenew
      @MsSomeonenew 7 років тому +2

      Seems to be low range and low destruction capability, which makes it not all that powerful on large scale battlefields.

  • @raulbaez8526
    @raulbaez8526 7 років тому +65

    I understand why the ancients lost because they were overconfident but come on with weapons like that who wouldn't be!

    • @Cdre_Satori
      @Cdre_Satori 6 років тому +8

      Is what Romans thought of Carthaginians referring to war elephants. Or US of Japanese when seeing battleship Jamato.

    • @davevd9944
      @davevd9944 6 років тому +22

      Agreed if they took the Wraith seriously from the first moment they would never have lost.
      Same with the Tollan...And the Goa'uld. I see a trend here haha almost every extremely advanced species is super cocky.

    • @farshidmehrtash4115
      @farshidmehrtash4115 5 років тому +8

      They didn't lost , they just couldn't see a point in keep fighting theme, if memory recalls correctly, from one of the holo vids the ancient women clearly says Lanteans were able to stop anything the wraith sent but they got tired and closed shop !

    • @Cross_111
      @Cross_111 4 роки тому +5

      dan p although you are right to a certain aspect the Lanteans did not want to turn into their really worst enemy = the Ori
      Their brethren that have forsaken any good and became evil incarnate without any morals

    • @michaelramon2411
      @michaelramon2411 4 роки тому +6

      @@davevd9944 That's one of the core themes of the franchise. The two least-arrogant high-tech civilizations are the Asgard and the Taur'i, both of whom developed most of their own technology. Even after the Taur'i became a dominant power with reverse-engineering and Asgard gifts, they still retained the ethos of technological development and the memory of being heavily outgunned, which pushes them to keep getting better instead of stagnating.

  • @lifeinjersey9846
    @lifeinjersey9846 2 роки тому +6

    Can you imagine in the future the Tauri finally figure out how to use the HEAT and guidance system from the drones and implement them into a Nuke.
    Like imagine the Tauri mark 8 and 9 Naquadah enhanced nukes but with the ability to bypass shields and incoming targets

    • @tylersoto7465
      @tylersoto7465 2 роки тому

      , a puddle jumper is armed with 12 drones and a cloak and if you put a tactical nuke under it it can take out a fleet of wraith ships , 8 drones can take out a hive and 3 for a cruiser, Just put the cloak on sneak into hive ship bay drop nuke , fly out and shoot drone to take cruisers let nuke go off destroying hive and escape to a stargate etc and repeat

    • @peterolsen9131
      @peterolsen9131 2 місяці тому

      maybe in the asguard core there is the schematics of tolan tech as they were friends, , phasing technology and ion cannons for the general hammond , ancient cloaks , asgard neutrino ion power and hyper-speed enginges would make a beast of a ship

  • @SuperMIKevin
    @SuperMIKevin Рік тому +6

    I think it's probably fair to say that the humans won't be able to remake the drones for use on human ships.
    But I hope we get to see them try to approximate the same style of this weapon.
    For example we could make a drone that functions like a nuclear missile except with a nuke and shields and we would deploy them in groups of 3, 6 or 9.

    • @patrickwilkinson7351
      @patrickwilkinson7351 2 місяці тому +1

      It depends. Build a drone factory ourselves? No. Find a perfectly operational one that the Ancients happened to leave somewhere and start cranking them out that way? Yes.

    • @SuperMIKevin
      @SuperMIKevin 2 місяці тому

      @patrickwilkinson7351
      That would be nice but I doubt we would be allowed by the writer to keep such power.
      Whenever we get war level weapons from the ancients they are either very limited because of power requirements or something happens that causes their destruction.
      This is exactly why my original comment was pessimistic about recreating the ancient drones.
      It's not that we couldn't, they just wouldn't let us.
      We could reverse engineer the drones by dissecting some open and use the asgard computer corps to help analyze it and duplicate the functionality.
      But no, that won't happen because the humans would become too powerful and the story would just stop evolving.

  • @suidberd968
    @suidberd968 7 років тому +23

    The USS Saratoga (SCVN-2812) , SA-43 'Hammerhead'
    Space: Above and Beyond

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 7 років тому +41

    do the daedalus. do it as a multi part to show its evolution from being comparable to the prometheus, to the ori mother ship killer it becomes, and the horizon weapons platform.

  • @AnIdiotsLantern
    @AnIdiotsLantern 7 років тому +7

    I'd love to see a short series about the best Space Combat Tactics, as opposed to ships. I know you've done some videos on combat tactics, like the Thrawn Pincer and the Riker Meneuver, but I'd love to learn more about ship-to-ship fighting styles.

  • @someguy771
    @someguy771 6 років тому +5

    I'm afraid to see what a swarm of them could do against something like the Reapers from mass effect.
    Most likely, it would be along the terms of "bye bye"

    • @pendraco2000
      @pendraco2000 5 років тому

      most likely. mean, hell, a Reaper can get perforated by shots from Milky Way Species Dreadnaughts with sustained fire.
      Sir Isaac Newton IS the deadliest sonovabitch in space after all.

    • @jeremydale4548
      @jeremydale4548 День тому

      It will be a simple “bye bye” from whoever fires them

  • @sesshomaru2005
    @sesshomaru2005 3 роки тому +6

    i would liked to see a lantean aurora class with drones vs a ORI ship

  • @harlankovacs6276
    @harlankovacs6276 7 років тому +11

    my favorite sci fi weapons so far

  • @emanuelealbenga1516
    @emanuelealbenga1516 2 місяці тому +1

    With that kind of weapons still feels like a giant plot hole that ancient lost a war against anyone

  • @kilroy3579
    @kilroy3579 7 років тому +7

    I would like to see a video on the Andromeda Ascendant from Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda

  • @kristofferr5928
    @kristofferr5928 7 років тому +51

    You should do the Tollan Ion Canon from Stargate SG1

    • @SuperDarkr
      @SuperDarkr 6 років тому +1

      Kristoffer R you mean the plasma cannons but they were useless after the new hatak upgraded shields after Anubis upgraded the system lords shields

    • @BlueGlowingLight4
      @BlueGlowingLight4 6 років тому +6

      Useless against that type of shielding yes, but that shielding was based on MilkeyWay Ancient tech. How would the Tollan Cannons fair against Wraith ships that rely more on armour than shields?

    • @yazanmowed
      @yazanmowed 4 роки тому

      Elziad I think it would eviscerate Wraith hive ships.

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 4 роки тому +1

      @@SuperDarkr if "less than 100% effective against everything" is the low bar, then Spacedock would have damned few videos.

  • @marc-antoinecusson3119
    @marc-antoinecusson3119 2 роки тому +1

    This might be one of the best weapon for a spaceship.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 7 років тому +150

    They can be ordered to return for a recharhing after going right through enemy vessel? And those morons in SGA were constantly whining that they don't have enough with how they were WASTING them?

    • @TheAkashicTraveller
      @TheAkashicTraveller 7 років тому +19

      It's even worse. Though it wasn't mentioned in the video drones launched from something with a chair utilise broadcast power...

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 7 років тому +33

      Jack Evans yep, basically all this time they were doing something similar as ordering F-22's with electronic warfare package to ram targets. It would have been better if I hadn't known=(

    • @MsSomeonenew
      @MsSomeonenew 7 років тому +63

      Well considering they barely made anything work, let's presume they had no clue how to use them to their full potential.

    • @chriss2031
      @chriss2031 7 років тому +19

      *waves hands* idiots.....idiots everywhwere! *mwahahaha*

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 7 років тому +43

      And SG1 wondered why no advanced race wanted to share their technology with them(without some kind of ulterior motive). Like children wanting the newest iphone without the maturity to know how to use them responsibly.

  • @RayisX
    @RayisX 7 років тому +1

    Danm now i miss Hotpoint's XSGCOM because i remember him going into why they looked like squids and the enemy that they had been originally designed to fight

    • @yazanmowed
      @yazanmowed 4 роки тому

      That was one of the worst fanfictions I‘ve ever read.

  • @JasonAguirre
    @JasonAguirre 7 років тому +23

    What about why a full city-station like Atlantis couldn't seem to manufacture more?

    • @hansolo4017
      @hansolo4017 7 років тому +6

      it could they just did not have the resources

    • @FLOABName
      @FLOABName 7 років тому +26

      I'd like to think that Atlantis had a ZPM factory somewhere, but they just never got around to finding it.

    • @hansolo4017
      @hansolo4017 7 років тому +1

      Kyle A
      Rodney mad one so i suppose they must have had one on Atlantis

    • @schwarzerritter5724
      @schwarzerritter5724 7 років тому +2

      They probably just never had the energy to manufacture drones.
      About zero point modules, I think it was explained they draw energy from an isolated pocked of hyperspace, or something like that. So maybe you need to find a naturally occurring pocket and then link the module with it.

    • @hansolo4017
      @hansolo4017 7 років тому

      Schwarzer Ritter
      again Rodney BUILT a ZPM so there must be one there, they just need the resources

  • @SuperMIKevin
    @SuperMIKevin Рік тому

    I could listen to you talk about these weapons all day long.

  • @TheLPRnetwork
    @TheLPRnetwork 7 років тому +3

    Wow this is an awesome Sci-Fi channel. As a Fictional designer, this is some very inspirational stuff...
    Now This might a weird request but i'd like you do a video on 'The Argama' and/or 'Nahel Argama' from Gundam Zeta, ZZ and unicorn.
    BUT Before doing that, i would like for you to do a video on 'Minovsky particles' and how they changed the Gundam's Universal Century. *Take your time, it's a whole new universe.*

  • @Jonic_P
    @Jonic_P 2 роки тому

    Perhaps one of my most favourite Sci-Fi weapons in all of Sci-Fi. A mix of practicality, fictional science, and unique aesthetics. Wouldn't mind having something like it on my dream ship and/or starfighter

  • @SyzygyNoon
    @SyzygyNoon 3 роки тому +4

    I'm sure this has been said, but it always really bothered me that they never said that Atlantis was equipped with a drone manufacturing facility (as far as I can remember), which makes no sense.
    I know the series would have been over before it started if they could produce unlimited drones, but they could have at least said that the factory was destroyed by water damage, or better yet, actually explored the factory, even if it were damaged. I always wanted to see one.

    • @RenBR
      @RenBR Рік тому

      The ancients did use devices that could integrate with ones mind, allowing the user to design devices and "3D Print" those projects directly by converting energy into matter. There is an episode on season 10 of SG-1 were an ancient do this. The Asgards also had this capability. The ancients also had advanced nanite technology that could be used on the manufacturing process. So most likely Atlantis was equipped with the required manufacturing facilities for both drones production and probably ZPMs as well. The main issue most likely is on the power requirements, the ability to operate the devices.

    • @SyzygyNoon
      @SyzygyNoon Рік тому

      @@RenBR As far as reasonable storytelling goes, I think you're right. I just wish they had acknowledged it even in a small way.

    • @RenBR
      @RenBR Рік тому

      @@SyzygyNoon There were rummors that the cast of SG-Atlantis was pushing for a movie to wrap up the series. Joe Flanigan commented once in an interview that they managed even find some funding for the movie. They presented this to the studio that holds the production rights for StarGate. However the studio ignored everything.

    • @SyzygyNoon
      @SyzygyNoon Рік тому

      @@RenBR I’m not really a social person, but I feel like Joe is someone I could talk to. (And maybe Dave. He plays neurotic anxiety so well, I think it’d work).

    • @RenBR
      @RenBR Рік тому +1

      @@SyzygyNoon Joe Flanigan and Jason Moamoa are very good friends in real and regularly go out togueter. Based on what I've seen he is pretty fun to be with.

  • @soosuumiidgaf7008
    @soosuumiidgaf7008 5 років тому +1

    I'm still glad they solved the problem of beaming nukes onboard enemy ships, that episode killed my dreams of op nuke beams

    • @Kelsar1981
      @Kelsar1981 3 роки тому

      Teleporting Nukes on enemy ships, the oldest SciFi I know doing this is Perry Rhodan, in the beginning with special Mutants and later with Machines.

  • @christopherterry465
    @christopherterry465 7 років тому +6

    i never understood why we never found any production facility i mean the Ancient battleships couldnt carry millions but say they only carried a few thousand eventually they would run out wouldn't it make more since to instal a small drone production area on board feed it raw materials and it produces a drone the same with Atlantis its big enough to have several not to mention shipyard to build ancient battleships and cruisers the same with Jumpers and their version of fighters

    • @gigaya777
      @gigaya777 7 років тому

      christopher terry ancient were idiots all their production facilities were in their home world (aka Atlantis) a behaviour also showed when they were in the milky way, they were probably too afraid of everyone else, they knew if they ever go to war it would be their technology what it would save them so as you can guess you can't allow anyone put their hands in your production facilities

    • @StalkeraBg
      @StalkeraBg 6 років тому +1

      Actually im curious about something else.. Asgard printer could make food, water.. ie if you program it.
      Couldnt it digitalise 3D version of the drone as BP and just make that ship the mobile drone factory ?
      Make thousand, beam em to surface/Atlantis.. and repeat.
      Deadalus powered with the ZPM and that computer could proly make a trillion before depleting ( and its hell of a lot more effective than railguns)
      This has always bothered me

    • @june-cz1cw
      @june-cz1cw 5 років тому

      I wondered where they were getting their tunneljumpers from actually

  • @benh7475
    @benh7475 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for everything 👽,!!!!

  • @phantom117b4
    @phantom117b4 7 років тому

    great video as always

  • @DavidKnowles0
    @DavidKnowles0 6 місяців тому

    I never felt we saw these deployed in the ways they were meant to. Would love to see these under control of a Atlantean weapons office.

  • @EpicSOB_
    @EpicSOB_ 7 років тому +5

    Please tell me you are going to cover more weapon systems.

  • @super1337bf3ordie
    @super1337bf3ordie 3 роки тому

    i love how you use the word perforate rather then penetrate since you penetrate existing hole

  • @Gelb33
    @Gelb33 7 років тому +1

    Great video as always, love those documentaries of yours. Do you think you could do one for the Battlestar Pegasus and the Cylon Basestars of the reimagined series?

  • @ssjn4vegeta
    @ssjn4vegeta 7 років тому +1

    You forgot to mention that the just look straight up cool.

  • @WritingFighter
    @WritingFighter 2 роки тому

    Lantean Drones are some of my favorite sci-fi weapons.

  • @BlindLightbulb
    @BlindLightbulb 7 років тому +1

    Yes!! More stargate stuff! Please do the lantean city ship or the ori warship!

  • @wither5673
    @wither5673 Рік тому

    i mean they really are the perfect little weapons, only thing is ammunition storage, but if the ships had the ability to make more of them, well that would be even more OP.

  • @TwilightMysts
    @TwilightMysts 5 років тому +1

    How does Lantean Drones compare to Asguard energy weapons?

  • @themeanestkitten
    @themeanestkitten 4 роки тому

    Drone swarms are the way to win any battle

  • @BON3SMcCOY
    @BON3SMcCOY 5 років тому

    Spacedock shorts are the best

  • @karim.ettahiri2605
    @karim.ettahiri2605 7 років тому +2

    Can i suggest a discord channel to discuss sci fi and future spacedock episodes

  • @RBweb24
    @RBweb24 3 роки тому +1

    I want to see a drone mark IX hybrid built by Sam and Rodney

    • @refulgent_fanta
      @refulgent_fanta 3 роки тому +1

      A hybrid between a Lantean drone and a Mark IX naquadria bomb would probably be a planet killer.

  • @cnlbenmc
    @cnlbenmc 3 роки тому +1

    I don't know why they call this thing a drone; it's the ultimate evolution of the Guided Missile.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 7 місяців тому

    Geez, that could be vicious.

  • @deftreference
    @deftreference 6 років тому

    These videos are great.

  • @jas4371
    @jas4371 7 років тому +4

    could you make a video about the Munificent-class star frigate from Star Wars

    • @jas4371
      @jas4371 7 років тому

      it is the only request I have ever asked him I've been subscribing to him since you had a 1000 subs and in that time that is the only ship I've been requesting I support him more than any other channel right now because he does something different and this is one of the channels that I have been looking for many years but I do supporten him and you thought one hell of a job

  • @HappyfoxBiz
    @HappyfoxBiz 3 роки тому

    *shudders* they give me the chills

  • @duitk
    @duitk 7 років тому +1

    we need a video on the 304

  • @rudyvalle9022
    @rudyvalle9022 7 років тому +1

    Psychic control system? Whoa that's cool.

  • @kdogtyson1108
    @kdogtyson1108 5 років тому

    I think it generates a positronic plasma field to disrupt the molecular bonds in the hull of a ship through the matter antimatter annihilation of the molecules electron shells. That would account for their bright yellow glow.

  • @hpbifta
    @hpbifta 7 років тому

    Ships I would like you to cover : UNSC Pelicans and variants inc Tart Cart and BOGOF. UNSC Infinity, Battle Star Galactica ( For preference Classic vs Reboot as one vid.) V Capital city Craft, The ship the Xenomorphs are found in from the Films Alien, Aliens and Prometheus, Star Base 1 from Star Trek, Red Dwarf, The Aliens Drop Ship, The Homeworld Colony Ship, Discovery from 2001 a space odyssey, EvE Online Capital Ships (Comparison), Anything from Freespace or Wing Commander, and Buck Rogers's Fighter from Buck Rogers in the 25th Century ( Sorry can't remember what it is called.). I know it's a little bit of a nebulous list but I hope there are some ideas in there that you like. Whether as short vids or podcast I would be happy for any or all of these to come up at some time. Keep up the good work, this is a fascinating channel to me and I hope many others as it is such a great subject. Maybe someone should create a Sci-Fi ship mega database sometime hehe. Sorry Sci-Fi ships etc are a bit of a thing for me.

  • @Evochio
    @Evochio 7 років тому

    Great video

  • @user-px7kx2gp1b
    @user-px7kx2gp1b 2 роки тому

    Now imagine if there were a version of this drone with a smaller ZPM inside powering it. That would be a serious problem even for the Ori.

  • @galbert117
    @galbert117 7 років тому +1

    My only question is, if used against a Starfleet ship, such as the Enterprise, would they be able to get past their shields if they are constantly changing their shield frequency?

    • @Twilord_
      @Twilord_ 7 років тому

      Given that Ancient tech has a habit of side-stepping reality (no seriously, their inventions routinely access other dimensions where physics behaves how the want) I'd not be surprised if phasing through wasn't an issue.
      Plus any crossover kinda has to account for the fact that Stargate's tech is on the scale of galactic and intergalactic species; while the closest thing in Stargate is the Borg's intra-galactic travel; and that the Ancients also have that 'humans are magic factor' but with millions of years more R&D under their belt whereas Star-Trek is set in the millennia.
      Although to be fair to Stargate it's attitude was always 'the smug civilization messes up and offs itself'. The Wraith were basically headed that way and even the Tau'ri were confronting that potential within themselves in the Milky-Way sub-plot of SGU.

    • @gigaya777
      @gigaya777 7 років тому

      quite possible but for what we saw the drone can read the frequency and adapt according the new circumstances the question is how fast can the drone "read" the new frequency, keep in consideration the drone is not like a common missile the drone can be given new orders so if the drone is not fast enough but the ship sensor is fast enough the ship can easily read the new frequency and tell the drone to change the frequency
      the ancient drone is the supreme weapon in stargate

  • @Rikard_Nilsson
    @Rikard_Nilsson 4 роки тому

    I'm not sure you can confidently say that it is more powerful than Asgaard beam weapons, Thor made quite a few Ha'taks disappear quite easily in "Thor's Chariot".

    • @NATIK001
      @NATIK001 2 роки тому

      He didn't use his beam weapons, he used his teleportation beams on the unfinished ships sitting on the ground.
      The beam weapons referred to are the ones later installed on the Daedalus class ships after Unending, the ones capable of shooting down Ori motherships.
      I think the justification Spacedock is using to call the drones more powerful is that drone fire power scales proportionally with drones launched and you can launch an ungodly amount at the same time even from a single launch site. A single drone launcher can take out vast fleets if supplied with enough drones. A single Asgard beam, whatever its attached to, is going to struggle taking on an entire fleet unless the ship in question has like ZPM powered shielding and then it will take much longer to do than simply using drones.

  • @jossgoyanko7006
    @jossgoyanko7006 7 років тому +1

    As a hybrid energy/projectile weapon, would they be able to affect Ida galaxy Replicator Ships?

    • @kangeegold7177
      @kangeegold7177 7 років тому +4

      That's actually a good question, would Drones be effective against replicators who generally are immune to most energy weapons?

    • @jossgoyanko7006
      @jossgoyanko7006 7 років тому

      Well it's a hybrid energy/projectile weapon, so presumably the Replicators could adapt to lesson their effectiveness, but they may not be able to stop them entirely. They could adapt to the Drone's energy field that makes it so potent, but they wouldn't be able to stop them from impacting and detonating.

    • @Son37Lumiere
      @Son37Lumiere 7 років тому

      The replicator story in Atlantis actually explains this, after the SGA team comes across the replicator home world one of the replicator's tells them the story of how they came to be. Essentially the Ancients created them and then destroyed them with the drones once they couldn't control them any longer, but some of the nanites survived. So like the Asgard's O'Neill class energy weapons, they are capable of destroying most of the replicator nanites but some inevitably survive.

  • @martin4374
    @martin4374 7 років тому

    Please do one on the Ori main battle ship. I'm interested to know about the power source - that is, the ring at the center.

  • @supekki98
    @supekki98 7 років тому +19

    Never saw that where they shoot two drones vs an Ha'Tak( 1:40 ). :D What episode might that be

    • @Spacedock
      @Spacedock  7 років тому +24

      SG1 S08E13 - "It's Good to Be King."

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 7 років тому +6

      Yeah that was awesome and shows you how powerful the Ancients were. The Puddle Jumper was used for transport, and it only had defensive weapons, and no shields (at least not without Rodney tinkering). And it was still able to 1-shot a fully powered Ha'tak.

    • @supekki98
      @supekki98 7 років тому +2

      Guess i have really bad memory or something. I think i've always skipped this episode somehow D:

    • @Nova_Astral
      @Nova_Astral 7 років тому +1

      Said Jumper was also a Time Jumper made by Janus, except in milky way style (dhd)

  • @Nova_Astral
    @Nova_Astral 7 років тому

    A Single Lantean City Ship, Aurora Class warship, or even a Gateship would EASILY be able to destroy anything borg, Drones mainly use kinetic energy on targets that are strong enough, the problem with borg ships/drones is that the borg can't adapt to non-energy weapons, so things like bullets, or drones would be able to destroy them easily.

    • @Son37Lumiere
      @Son37Lumiere 7 років тому

      Yup, they'd tear a Borg cube apart though you'd probably need a couple dozen because of the sheer size of the cube.

  • @dbell1016
    @dbell1016 7 років тому

    A ship I would like to see explored is the starfury from babylon 5. I've always thought
    it was the most "realistic" of scifi spacecraft. If you could get to it, I'd greatly appreciate
    it. Thank you.

  • @JuryRigged
    @JuryRigged 5 років тому +1

    It really bugs me (no pun intended) that there is no established canonical relationship between Lantean drones and the fireflies from Prodigy.

  • @atrus3416
    @atrus3416 6 років тому

    Thank you Dr. Beckett :P

  • @DanBen07
    @DanBen07 6 років тому

    How many drones can a puddle jumper hold ? One episode had mini drones.

  • @rexstocephirxiii4263
    @rexstocephirxiii4263 3 роки тому

    I've often wondered if the tauri ever figured out how to make more drones.

  • @mixmaster3028
    @mixmaster3028 6 років тому

    What episode was that. The drones hitting the man.

  • @gunnerysergeantbuck7046
    @gunnerysergeantbuck7046 7 років тому

    hey I'm new here, but I've always wanted to see a video of the UNSC Punic Class Super carrier from the Halo series, it's almost as big as the Infinity.

  • @bendover4536
    @bendover4536 5 років тому

    I would really want to see battle between aurora class ship and ori ship.

  • @tomascernak6112
    @tomascernak6112 2 роки тому

    Those drones were good for low scale battles and conflicts. Like modern real-life drones are. When big boys come to game, they are utterly useless even against technologically inferior foe, like wraiths and even goaulds. Fact is, that Lanteans facing Wraiths had to develop supporting strategy to counter their sheer number - creating Asurans, which were technologically still Lanteans, but were capable to geometrically increase their numbers and thus changing tides of war in Lantean favor (until Asuran rebelion, of course).
    Also drones had serious disadvantage if foe was able to employ shield capable to stop drones (as Asgards obviously were).
    Asgards were maybe more conventional, but sheer brute force of their latest shield, beam and temporal technology was real edge which assured Tauri dominance over all foes in all three galaxies. Fact, that tiny BC-304 ships were in the end capable to dispatch any much massive opponents in matter of seconds was real deal.

    • @nihilityjoey
      @nihilityjoey Рік тому

      All of this is wrong.
      The drones went through all shields. The Asgard and ori were no exceptions. People use the asurans battle to show this, but those ships never fired a single drone, all of the fighting was being done with their plasma ion cannons. And it's easily checkable, drones can manoeuvre by themselves, none of those shots did that.
      And none of the asgards technology was more powerful than the ancients, not their shields nor the speed of their ships.

  • @misamokuzelpizu
    @misamokuzelpizu 3 роки тому

    ok, but why the torchwood sound though?

  • @bzum19
    @bzum19 5 років тому

    The ultimate weapon

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 2 роки тому

    wait... 36 inches in length? Those ships must be damn small- just look at the scaling!! 0:34

  • @Immashift
    @Immashift 3 роки тому

    Atlantis has limited drones. They can't be replaced because we haven't found the drone printer base thingy yet. BETTER USE THEM ANY TIME A SINGLE DART SHOWS UP. By rights the Jumpers should have been loaded with Hellfires or something when they had to take out piddley shit. Using a drone (or 3, god dammit pilot episode) on one Wraith dart is like hunting a fly with a bazooka.

  • @dustinbrandel59
    @dustinbrandel59 2 роки тому

    Iv thought of a lightsaber missle that was based on these things. I know thats 2 diff shows, but its all fantasy. A glowing missle that goes thru anything. I could achieve same thing in star wars with a device that has multiple highspeed spinning lightsabers on all sides, chasing enemy ships.

  • @Cdre_Satori
    @Cdre_Satori 6 років тому

    Wait, so Asurans copy Alteran technology, build ZPM factories, a fleet of ZPM powered Auroras and don't use Drones all the time? It would seem like perfect weapon since they can mass-produce it. Surely they can get around the need for mind-control when building the Aurora from the scratch.

  • @podsmpsg1
    @podsmpsg1 6 років тому +1

    A drone could go right through Goa'uld shields

  • @JustTooDamnHonest
    @JustTooDamnHonest Рік тому

    Where can I get one of those swarms of drones?

  • @RRVCrinale
    @RRVCrinale 2 роки тому

    Funny how now, real drone weapons platforms are essentially the same thing, evolving along the same lines: remotely operated, reusable, semi-expendable weapons platforms that can be programmed to complete missions semi-autonomously and return for resupply and refueling if required, or for kamikaze attacks if the need arises and recovery seems impossible. And getting smaller and smaller means these precision guided weapons can be used for more applications. Neat, right?

  • @Daark_Karma
    @Daark_Karma 6 років тому

    Is it just me, or does the intro music sound the the torchwood theme? XD

  • @adrianfisher3349
    @adrianfisher3349 5 років тому

    I always wondered why the Atlantis expedition didn't make more drones and ZPM's.

    • @MrCoolguy425
      @MrCoolguy425 4 роки тому +1

      Adrian Fisher it is said that the Atlantis database is very large, and even towards the end of the series they said they “have only scratched the surface” so it is basically trying to sort through information, in a language you don’t know, in a database large enough to rival all of human knowledge.
      It’s very likely that they could and the facilities could even be on Atlantis itself but they just haven’t found the folder that is titled “super advanced space tech”

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster 6 років тому

    If SeaQuest DSV & a Vorlon had a baby this is what their kids would look like.

  • @Qardo
    @Qardo 6 років тому

    Most OP thing I have ever seen. I mean seriously. Take this concept idea into any other Sci-Fi Lore. People would cry you saying it is a stupid weapon. Way too overpowered. Yet...I can see their draw backs.

  • @miguelitobautista8908
    @miguelitobautista8908 3 роки тому

    I so miss Star Gate Atlantis!!! 😟

  • @mousepointer12
    @mousepointer12 3 роки тому

    3:01 sic 'em!

  • @MrSpartan99
    @MrSpartan99 7 років тому

    You should do the USS Sulaco

  • @evanrhoney8572
    @evanrhoney8572 5 років тому

    Is there any info on how they are made?

  • @Bluefoot65
    @Bluefoot65 5 років тому

    were the drones still being manufactured by the automated system of the ancient cities?

  • @zalla00
    @zalla00 7 років тому +1

    Reminds me of the bit/dragoon systems from Gundam hehe

  • @stargatefever
    @stargatefever 7 років тому

    also what episode did the drone return to storage. or was it in a book

  • @rageagaintstheNWO
    @rageagaintstheNWO 6 років тому +2

    Funny how Oneill takes out a Hattak with 2 drones but Sheppard wasted 3 on 1 Dart

    • @SioxerNikita
      @SioxerNikita 6 років тому

      O'Neill had the ancients knowledge, so he knew how much power needed to be applied.... Sheppard had no knowledge beyond Fighter Pilot training, and there you always launch multiple missiles. Not really that funny when you think about it.

    • @TheDjbz
      @TheDjbz 6 років тому +1

      The puddle jumper O’niell used only had those two drones left. He fully intended on firing more and both he and Carter were surprised when the Ha’tak exploded

    • @thomasbacklund9713
      @thomasbacklund9713 5 років тому

      What Was the episode when they Took out a hattak with drones??? Dont remember that one....

  • @RGMerkel
    @RGMerkel 7 років тому

    So, any chance of a video for the F-304 class BC?

  • @tyrannicpuppy
    @tyrannicpuppy 3 роки тому

    Beautiful weapons. But I'm pretty sure these aren't simply a few dozen thousand years old, they're millions of years old. The outpost Atlantis left behind on Earth had loads of them. So unless the retreating Lanteans (carrying basically only the clothes on their backs) decided to upgrade the outpost and fill it's ammo racks before they moped off and ascended, they've been there since Atlantis left the Milky Way.

  • @sebastiaanborgonie4700
    @sebastiaanborgonie4700 7 років тому +2

    Do SGU destiny ship plz

  • @RavenWolffe77
    @RavenWolffe77 4 роки тому

    Sufficiently Advanced Boomerang

  • @dagonnemo1811
    @dagonnemo1811 7 років тому +3

    how about the Lexx from Lexx

    • @Jimizacx
      @Jimizacx 7 років тому +1

      Lexx, the giant space dick whose spunk can destroy planets?
      That Lexx?

  • @koyuki4848
    @koyuki4848 7 років тому

    Lanteans are so OP