@@jeremyhess7977 Look, if you stick in a couple of mixing balls and hold in on a vortex mixer until you develop secondary Reynaud's phenomenon, it will last *at least* 40 minutes.
I rarely comment on UA-cam videos, but I just wanted to say that I'm enjoying these types of videos from you, especially when you talk through the challenges you're going through as you paint the mini and bits where you feel like you can improve on for next time. It makes me feel so much more confident to experiment myself when I see much more experienced painters also doing things that they don't nail perfectly every time too. Your end result looks fantastic, but I like that you're not afraid to show that you don't have all the answers right away.
I really appreciate you highlighting the things that you think you're doing wrong, and admitting that you're going out of your comfort zone. As a MUCH worse painter it's reassuring to know that all the UA-cam painters are ALSO human.
That's how they got to the level they're at now. Stepping out of their comfort zone and mastering (or least achieving solid reliability) with new techniques, tools, colors, and ideas. I'm not saying you do this. But I see so many people in discord groups rely on slap chop too heavily and genuinely wonder why they don't get better when they try something different. Then, revert back to slap chop cause it's comfortable. We all suck trying new things the first time. But if you keep at it, it will eventually click and you can keep moving forward on your hobby journey.
Please keep showing us when you're experimenting (like this and with OSL). Really helpful for my broken, broken psychology to see folks who are objectively good at this still struggle or find areas they need to grow.
I am loving the fact that you are posting so much more regularly. And this video was absolute 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 The story mode of the first couple minutes was excellent.
Scotty, you've always been a great painter, but your storytelling/teaching/videography/editing has hit another level. There should be awards for minipainting vids. Thanks for all the extra effort you put into these.
I 100% support this. A small group of UA-cam mini painters (obviously including you) got me through some seriously tough periods in my life. Not because of the mini, but the storytelling down-to-earth direct explanations and humanity you put into teaching/editing has grown into something special. Keep going strong my dude.
Always love the "Scott Learns Something" videos, as I'm always learning something along with you. This is video brings up something to think about. I think it's common people start with a base color and go from there, when we should probably be starting with the shade color and working up from there. I think this is where the newer paints sets that have those shades built into their design are very useful.
I want to echo what the other commenters are saying. First, I'm enjoying the more frequent posts, for sure. Secondly, I've always thought that you and Ninjon were really good at talking through your thought processes, but I agree with others that you have stepped up recently as well. Finally, I love the blue hair! You may have known this, but aoi is actually the Japanese word for blue, so it fits nicely. 🙂
I really enjoy the videos where you run into a situation that you don’t know how to deal with, and we get to see how you solve it. It seems like so much of miniature painting is about finding solutions, and learning the thought processes to do that is something you rarely see in tutorials.
I like that you published the video despite it not turning out exactly how you expected. I try to learn something new with each piece that I do and often have the same result where I’m pretty pleased with some of it and not as much with other parts.
ive been loving these weekly "just painting a mini" videos. i think its great motivation for other hobby content creators to not feel like every video needs to be something massive.
Really enjoying your approach to videos lately - topic, presentation, everything. Not sure if it’s a full “pivot” per se, but it’s working for you imo! Great result on the mini.
For bumping up your saturation on the lower half one thing you can try is literally just using high saturation colors for highlighting; it can take some experimenting to work out how much and how saturated you need to do for it to look how you want, like basically anything in painting, but it has the effect of giving the impression of a highlight on desaturated colors without actually increasing the brightness by a ton, if at all. You can get some really vibrant paint schemes that are still visually dark and high contrast doing that
What's really interesting is the sense of texture on the suit you have managed to instil by keeping the transitions more subtle and the colour more saturated. The material looks natural vs. say armour where you might want that brighter value and sharper / brighter more extreme highlight. And the face is superb. I'm doing my first 75mm mini soon. Bought a malifaux model to test and push myself. My son wants me finishing our space marines first though. But I'm hoping to get onto more display minis, maybe that'll be my New Year resolution!? Happy holidays Scott. Look forward to learning more from you in 2025
I'm really enjoying videos about you exploring your weaknesses and trying new techniques. A lot of creators seems to have their recipes/styles/go tos, but end up repeating the same thing and not really expanding.
She turned out quite nice there Scott, it just goes to show that it never hurts to experiment and try new things and step up your level of creativity regardless of what you're doing weather it's a hobby or even life in general. Merry Christmas and a Happy and a prosperous New Year to you and yours
Great vid as always! the paint job was also awesome but most of all i really loved the shots at the start around the office. i think they were really fluid and i feel like they really brought us in to what you might do and you wander around the office figuring out your approach
I'm getting ready to paint the Dark Angels Inner Circle Task Force so I've got a green leaning black and a blue leaning black I need to paint and this kind of exploration is just what I needed to put into context how to use the highlight paints I bought recently for those. Literally perfect timing. Thanks as always.
I really like how you break up your videos. There's variety in your "talking head" segments. Most channels do talking at the desk and then hands while painting. You really make the most of that studio. Lots of channels do what you do but none do it quite like you do. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
9:46 this approach also has the advantage of making the mid tone (that's closest to the highlight) more saturated, because you are painting over the highlight color instead of over black.
Hey Scott, just want to say I see you crushing it at the moment with the upload schedule and I've been enjoying the uploads. I hope you have a great holiday
Hadn't stopped by in a while (not really painting right now), and was really inspired by the technique and theory applied here. Love this kind of content.
I am a watercolor artist and comic artist. I follow you more for background noise while I work, one thing I was taugh are you working in the light or shadows? If you are working in the light, you can have all the highlights you need, but the shadow need to be one flate color. If you are in the shadows, all the dakrs you need, but one highlgiht. The issue is, human eyes always refocus. Because of this, you can conince yourself to work in both. Make this simple and it will love more relaistic. Also, tempture shift is important. Cool to warm. Adding a neautral cool or warm into your shadows will help. I use Dioxazine purple for warm and Panes Gray for cool. If you mix them togehter you get a fake black. It's better to mix a black than just bottle for the reasons you state. Hope this helps and thanks for the videos.
This is a really good break down, I recently noticed this same thing with my minis and in my last one I did the same thing very minimal highlighting and I enjoy the results. Personally think it’s hard to dial stuff back sometimes especially when you’re first learning you just end up doing too much at some point. Also instead of highlighting to white I go to ivory or an ivory mix instead so it’s not as harsh on the eyes for the highlight. I like to think of it as a brain is a computer and only has a specific amount of processing power before it gets confused and overloaded with detail. The common person that doesn’t do detail work has even less processing power. 😂
Monday time Miniac time! Thanks for posting so much more frequently dude. You are part of my inspiration that keeps me painting my wood elf army for Old World
The figure you used as a reference reminds me of the chiaroscuro paintings. Less about using dark colors but rather focusing on an almost exteme contrast in tones through the whole piece. During one of the painting classes I took in college we did a piece on it and the restrictions were no black or white paint, if we were doing any shading or lighting we had to achieve it without those two colors. That taught me a lot about how I could achieve these deep dark hues through these blue/purple/red combinations. I think the figure you did just needed more of that contrast, although the warframe armor didn't give a lot of surface area on the armor to achieve those high contrast areas like the piece you were referencing. Personally I think the blue/orange combination also felt like it hindered you, the figure feels like it needs like one more color to make the rest of it pop. I actually play a lot of warframe and whenever I'm coloring my frames I think of that scene in Iron Man where he tells Jarvis 'throw a little hot rod red in there'.
Here here! I had the same reaction, the third colour is almost there, on the lips, a bright turquoise, it could be enough with it there (a bit brighter) and some other small part to give a focus point or two to aid the framed face.
Also keep in mind the lighting and the direction of that lighting that they use when taking photos of the miniature. Sometimes those can make the colors look "bright"
How very interesting and educational. Thank you! I like her face best at 6:32 and the orange on the arms at 10:32. IMO, brighter orange highlights below the waist on the knee and boots would be more cohesive and make the model pop. Cheers!
I found something similar when I wanted to do some glow effects in 2D art. Basically I noticed that when painting in pastel colors any normally bright color almost glows, allowing me to generate a colored light source that's not pure white in 2D art.
Looks great. The one thing I would have tried with the lower half was involving some temperature contrast in the shadows. When I was painting my Yu jing for infinity with a bright yellow hack job nmm, I glazed from the black up to a dark purple in the shadow transition. I imagine a black pin wash might also do the trick with a couple of fine spot highlights, but ultimately I think this kind of paint job just requires a bit more of a classical nmm approach to the lighting.
I totally get keeping things dark for display painting, but for tabletop or an army - you always want to go as light and bright as you can. That moody grim dark or atmospheric paint job looks amazing on photos, on a dark background with a studio lighting. But on a table with normal lighting (or heaven forbid dimly lit playroom), even viewed from several feet away as part of a unit - it becomes a dark blob. 😮
Hey Scott, I noticed You used a White or off white mixed in with your base colours for flesh. I almost never use white myself to brighten my colours. I use a lighter colour from the same colour family and mix to get my next highlight colour. my highlights all stay within the same family of colours rather than adding white as it can create a very stark DE saturated look. Loved what you achieved. I've learnt a lot from you over the years! always a fan!
Amazing paint job. I definitely like the top half of the model better, but maybe that’s because you intentionally make that the focus. The face is beautiful.
Aot of people paint for photography, using color choices to please the lens. But when in person they seem off or unreal. Ive always painted to please my eyes, and this video finaly explains how i paint and think. Thank you!
Love the intro. I dont know what it reminds me of, maybe like that Good Eats and earlier era of programs. Bill Nye, Beakman, etc. I needed this video, my marines are Naggaroth Night. Or basically dioxazine purple. Really dark and dealing with the values while not drifting into pinks for highlighting to keep the purple cold is a real challenge. Elminiturista is definitely one of my big references to achieve the look i want.
I find I have a similar issue. Most of my mini's tend to be bright and vibrant so much so it has kind of become my "Style" but recently I've been trying to do darker more moody pieces and run into the same issues and getting frustrated with it, I'm glad to see even painters of your level run into issues like this and I will have to try some of what you suggested
I am illegally early to this one. EDIT: This is something I've always struggled with so this is super helpful! Thanks! I love the way the hair and face looks on this, lower body is a bit underwhelming in comparison but we improve every time we do something. I think it definitely turned out really nice overall
It's always very interesting when you try out new things. I had a similar issue in the past. I solved it by using highly saturated colors and glazing over the highlights a lot. Normaly my highlights are something like ivory. So I tried to always have some color in there.
Wonderful work. I haven't jumped into Warframe 1999 yet but I hope that the "normal" Warframes get miniature treatment. I'd love to go to town painting a display model of one of my favourite Warframes. Perhaps Citrine would make for an amazing project but most of the frames would look awesome.
Personally, I think leaving the lower half of the model darker and more desaturated and only putting highlights and more saturated color on the upper half does a fantastic job of guiding the eyes towards what is most important, the face and upper body. I know you have many years of experience and thus you have most likely become very critical of your talent, but you are an excellent painter. Everything you put paint on at this point comes out beautiful. It is also good to see you are continuing to learn and grow, and I am happy to see your progress on this hobby journey.
11:26 I don't think going to black is a bad choice. If it were me, I would've tried mixing some black and red into the shadows, making the blues kinda go a little purple. Good video, loved watching the problem solving.
You could desaturate the blue with the brown you're using, I tend to mix my different colors to see whether that provides an interesting alternative that still provides cohesion. In this case, blue and brown make a blackish grey that is WAY more interesting as opposed to black. Black tends to slap colors down, whereas blue and brown pigments cancel each other out. Also it is great because you can gradient it pretty well. You could also have made the bottom more interesting by giving it more structrure, like a pattern, to break up the mini.
I really like the final result, the mini looks really good and I also agree that sometimes You tend to have problems with contrast because you go too bright with a paint scheme. Recently I have also encountered a problem of my own, I feel trapped in a specific way of painting (base, shade, highlight) because I need to keep coherency with all my Necromunda models. Although the paint schemes are very different, I feel the method needs to be basically the same to keep them all on the same level. Some advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you, this is an interesting idea to explore. I struggle a lot with putting in enough contrast without making things look cartoonish. Well, unless I'm painting something that's comically evil like my current set of swamp goblins in which case I just let it happen. I end up with a lot of issues with things like washes & highlights desaturating my minis so they end up kind of blah.
Haha, that was the most stealth warframe sales video thus far. I have to say, out of all the channels spruiking warframe your model has easily been one of the best painted.
I saw that same Lion post! I agree with you, the top half looks amazing but the legs doo look a bit dull in comparison. Btw I just got your recommended products in today and am excited to give them a try!
Imagine if every videogame release included some free stls! It's pretty awesome/business smart for this company to sponsor some hobby channels to promote this game. I will try out the game, just because I really like the Infinity aesthetic.
My paint jobs seem to be on the darker side. I put it down to me painting with two bright lights close to the model while I paint. Sort of making me paint dark thinking that I was painting bright. Its only when i go back to them days later that I notice/realise.
I run into this issue primarily with skintones - I always want to brighten them up and they end up ashen or chalky. More like corpses than healthy flesh. This was very insightful and helpful!
Nice work! I think it looks good! I think the experiment is worth pursuing further. I think the face still ended up pretty bright compared to the example model of what Scott was shooting for. I tell myself I am letting the environment the model is in narratively influence how high the highlights and how low the shadows go. But realistically, I probably just paint what the model looks like in my head. Which is always putting things through a 1990's Saturday Morning Cartoon filter. Overly saturated and lacking subtlety. 😂
I am not doing to lie. As a Warframe buff and Mini Painter, I would love to see DE team up with a company like Wargames Atlantic to make a Warframe Miniatures game. There are so many factions to add. Grineer (Unstable clones who specialize in projectile weapons and melee) Corpus (Space Capitalists who use robots and energy weapons) Infested (Literally the Warframe equivalent to The Flood from Halo) Sentients (Floating robots who can adapt to incoming damage) Murmur (Eldrich heralds hailing from the void, servants of The Man In The Wall) Tenno (The protagonists and their allies)
This video was really interesting because I always am looking for ways to boost saturation. I am wondering how much this is due to paint selection, but highlight vs shadow distribution gives me a lot to think about. Are their paint ranges that tend to be more desaturated? Do models with intense saturation get painted with inks to make things pop? Very interested to know your thoughts. Great video!
The section at 11:00 is really great. It's good to hear what is 'wrong' articulated like this because a lot of less experienced people will know when something is off but not really sure 'what' is off. So going over stuff like this is excellent content IMHO.
I love reds and, blacks but because of this is never let my reds too dark to make sure they contrast the blacks. I also use deep rich reds with only the spares amounts of brights for tiny highlights.
Flippin Legend. Nurgle Bless Our Constitution In The Kindest Of Ways, Chat. Miniac Great Guy. Diggin the work. Thanks foe rockin it as ya please, m8. Ripping up some Greenery for ya over here 🎉 cheers , end of year Best wishes, Team.
Her face is amazing, and the rest of her looks great also. I will, however, ask you if some edge highlighting and black panel lining might tighten it up a bit?
Video has been up 38 minutes so I am assuming the Corax White in the thumbnail has juuust about solidified in the pot by now.
hahahahaha
What?! ...you mean it wasn't already runny cottage cheese when it was first opened? Amazing!!!
@@jeremyhess7977 Look, if you stick in a couple of mixing balls and hold in on a vortex mixer until you develop secondary Reynaud's phenomenon, it will last *at least* 40 minutes.
Btw: "cream" is NOT a colour 😁
I rarely comment on UA-cam videos, but I just wanted to say that I'm enjoying these types of videos from you, especially when you talk through the challenges you're going through as you paint the mini and bits where you feel like you can improve on for next time. It makes me feel so much more confident to experiment myself when I see much more experienced painters also doing things that they don't nail perfectly every time too.
Your end result looks fantastic, but I like that you're not afraid to show that you don't have all the answers right away.
I really appreciate you highlighting the things that you think you're doing wrong, and admitting that you're going out of your comfort zone. As a MUCH worse painter it's reassuring to know that all the UA-cam painters are ALSO human.
That's how they got to the level they're at now. Stepping out of their comfort zone and mastering (or least achieving solid reliability) with new techniques, tools, colors, and ideas. I'm not saying you do this. But I see so many people in discord groups rely on slap chop too heavily and genuinely wonder why they don't get better when they try something different. Then, revert back to slap chop cause it's comfortable. We all suck trying new things the first time. But if you keep at it, it will eventually click and you can keep moving forward on your hobby journey.
Please keep showing us when you're experimenting (like this and with OSL). Really helpful for my broken, broken psychology to see folks who are objectively good at this still struggle or find areas they need to grow.
I am loving the fact that you are posting so much more regularly. And this video was absolute 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 The story mode of the first couple minutes was excellent.
Scotty, you've always been a great painter, but your storytelling/teaching/videography/editing has hit another level. There should be awards for minipainting vids. Thanks for all the extra effort you put into these.
I 100% support this. A small group of UA-cam mini painters (obviously including you) got me through some seriously tough periods in my life. Not because of the mini, but the storytelling down-to-earth direct explanations and humanity you put into teaching/editing has grown into something special. Keep going strong my dude.
i havent watched this but i assume its good
not as good as back to back to back Miscast videos
@@Miniac shhh scott im busy watching
Best bromance on youtube.
You know what they say about when you assume...
Here's a chance aren't right!
Playing it safe I see!
Always love the "Scott Learns Something" videos, as I'm always learning something along with you.
This is video brings up something to think about. I think it's common people start with a base color and go from there, when we should probably be starting with the shade color and working up from there. I think this is where the newer paints sets that have those shades built into their design are very useful.
I want to echo what the other commenters are saying. First, I'm enjoying the more frequent posts, for sure. Secondly, I've always thought that you and Ninjon were really good at talking through your thought processes, but I agree with others that you have stepped up recently as well.
Finally, I love the blue hair! You may have known this, but aoi is actually the Japanese word for blue, so it fits nicely. 🙂
Dude, GREAT format. Love the storytelling in it, especially the lead in. I truly dig the thought process portion.
I really enjoy the videos where you run into a situation that you don’t know how to deal with, and we get to see how you solve it. It seems like so much of miniature painting is about finding solutions, and learning the thought processes to do that is something you rarely see in tutorials.
Never thought I’d see warframe and Miniac crossover but I’m so here for it
I like that you published the video despite it not turning out exactly how you expected. I try to learn something new with each piece that I do and often have the same result where I’m pretty pleased with some of it and not as much with other parts.
ive been loving these weekly "just painting a mini" videos. i think its great motivation for other hobby content creators to not feel like every video needs to be something massive.
Merry Christmas Scott! Can't wait for that end of the year video EVERYBODY is asking for! ;)
Working on it right now!
Really enjoying your approach to videos lately - topic, presentation, everything. Not sure if it’s a full “pivot” per se, but it’s working for you imo! Great result on the mini.
That fluorescent copper look on the arms is excellent!
Dig the Alton Brown style opener, Scott. Can we be foodie best friends?
I appreciate the camerawork during the intro.
hard same
The intro sequence of this video is most excellent. It's informative, comedic m, and visually appealing. Keep it up!
For bumping up your saturation on the lower half one thing you can try is literally just using high saturation colors for highlighting; it can take some experimenting to work out how much and how saturated you need to do for it to look how you want, like basically anything in painting, but it has the effect of giving the impression of a highlight on desaturated colors without actually increasing the brightness by a ton, if at all. You can get some really vibrant paint schemes that are still visually dark and high contrast doing that
What's really interesting is the sense of texture on the suit you have managed to instil by keeping the transitions more subtle and the colour more saturated. The material looks natural vs. say armour where you might want that brighter value and sharper / brighter more extreme highlight. And the face is superb.
I'm doing my first 75mm mini soon. Bought a malifaux model to test and push myself. My son wants me finishing our space marines first though. But I'm hoping to get onto more display minis, maybe that'll be my New Year resolution!?
Happy holidays Scott. Look forward to learning more from you in 2025
I'm really enjoying videos about you exploring your weaknesses and trying new techniques.
A lot of creators seems to have their recipes/styles/go tos, but end up repeating the same thing and not really expanding.
She turned out quite nice there Scott, it just goes to show that it never hurts to experiment and try new things and step up your level of creativity regardless of what you're doing weather it's a hobby or even life in general.
Merry Christmas and a Happy and a prosperous New Year to you and yours
The editing and cinematography are out of this world ❤
Great vid as always! the paint job was also awesome but most of all i really loved the shots at the start around the office. i think they were really fluid and i feel like they really brought us in to what you might do and you wander around the office figuring out your approach
I'm getting ready to paint the Dark Angels Inner Circle Task Force so I've got a green leaning black and a blue leaning black I need to paint and this kind of exploration is just what I needed to put into context how to use the highlight paints I bought recently for those. Literally perfect timing. Thanks as always.
I really like how you break up your videos. There's variety in your "talking head" segments. Most channels do talking at the desk and then hands while painting. You really make the most of that studio. Lots of channels do what you do but none do it quite like you do. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
9:46 this approach also has the advantage of making the mid tone (that's closest to the highlight) more saturated, because you are painting over the highlight color instead of over black.
What an awesome video. This style is uniquely "you". Light hearted, fun to watch, and i learn heaps. Much love Scotty keep it up
Hey Scott, just want to say I see you crushing it at the moment with the upload schedule and I've been enjoying the uploads. I hope you have a great holiday
Great video as always Scott. Hope you have a good holiday!
Hadn't stopped by in a while (not really painting right now), and was really inspired by the technique and theory applied here. Love this kind of content.
I am a watercolor artist and comic artist. I follow you more for background noise while I work, one thing I was taugh are you working in the light or shadows? If you are working in the light, you can have all the highlights you need, but the shadow need to be one flate color. If you are in the shadows, all the dakrs you need, but one highlgiht. The issue is, human eyes always refocus. Because of this, you can conince yourself to work in both. Make this simple and it will love more relaistic. Also, tempture shift is important. Cool to warm. Adding a neautral cool or warm into your shadows will help. I use Dioxazine purple for warm and Panes Gray for cool. If you mix them togehter you get a fake black. It's better to mix a black than just bottle for the reasons you state. Hope this helps and thanks for the videos.
Loving the regular video drops Scott, keep up the good work!
I really love it !! the face looks amazing. Thanks Scott this was really useful IMO. Merry Christmas also ....
This is a really good break down, I recently noticed this same thing with my minis and in my last one I did the same thing very minimal highlighting and I enjoy the results. Personally think it’s hard to dial stuff back sometimes especially when you’re first learning you just end up doing too much at some point. Also instead of highlighting to white I go to ivory or an ivory mix instead so it’s not as harsh on the eyes for the highlight.
I like to think of it as a brain is a computer and only has a specific amount of processing power before it gets confused and overloaded with detail. The common person that doesn’t do detail work has even less processing power. 😂
Monday time Miniac time! Thanks for posting so much more frequently dude. You are part of my inspiration that keeps me painting my wood elf army for Old World
The figure you used as a reference reminds me of the chiaroscuro paintings. Less about using dark colors but rather focusing on an almost exteme contrast in tones through the whole piece. During one of the painting classes I took in college we did a piece on it and the restrictions were no black or white paint, if we were doing any shading or lighting we had to achieve it without those two colors. That taught me a lot about how I could achieve these deep dark hues through these blue/purple/red combinations. I think the figure you did just needed more of that contrast, although the warframe armor didn't give a lot of surface area on the armor to achieve those high contrast areas like the piece you were referencing. Personally I think the blue/orange combination also felt like it hindered you, the figure feels like it needs like one more color to make the rest of it pop. I actually play a lot of warframe and whenever I'm coloring my frames I think of that scene in Iron Man where he tells Jarvis 'throw a little hot rod red in there'.
Here here! I had the same reaction, the third colour is almost there, on the lips, a bright turquoise, it could be enough with it there (a bit brighter) and some other small part to give a focus point or two to aid the framed face.
Also keep in mind the lighting and the direction of that lighting that they use when taking photos of the miniature. Sometimes those can make the colors look "bright"
How very interesting and educational. Thank you! I like her face best at 6:32 and the orange on the arms at 10:32. IMO, brighter orange highlights below the waist on the knee and boots would be more cohesive and make the model pop. Cheers!
Loving the vids man, I know you are working hard putting out more painting content and its working man. Love the channel.
Love the parts where you walk us through your thought process as you problem solve
This format of video is perfect for people taking their second step in the hobby.
I found something similar when I wanted to do some glow effects in 2D art. Basically I noticed that when painting in pastel colors any normally bright color almost glows, allowing me to generate a colored light source that's not pure white in 2D art.
Looks great. The one thing I would have tried with the lower half was involving some temperature contrast in the shadows. When I was painting my Yu jing for infinity with a bright yellow hack job nmm, I glazed from the black up to a dark purple in the shadow transition. I imagine a black pin wash might also do the trick with a couple of fine spot highlights, but ultimately I think this kind of paint job just requires a bit more of a classical nmm approach to the lighting.
Scott says "Underwealming results". I say "Amazing art". Stunning job!
I totally get keeping things dark for display painting, but for tabletop or an army - you always want to go as light and bright as you can. That moody grim dark or atmospheric paint job looks amazing on photos, on a dark background with a studio lighting. But on a table with normal lighting (or heaven forbid dimly lit playroom), even viewed from several feet away as part of a unit - it becomes a dark blob. 😮
Maybe there's a way
enjoying having more Miniac videos
Hey Scott, I noticed You used a White or off white mixed in with your base colours for flesh. I almost never use white myself to brighten my colours. I use a lighter colour from the same colour family and mix to get my next highlight colour. my highlights all stay within the same family of colours rather than adding white as it can create a very stark DE saturated look. Loved what you achieved. I've learnt a lot from you over the years! always a fan!
Amazing paint job. I definitely like the top half of the model better, but maybe that’s because you intentionally make that the focus. The face is beautiful.
Aot of people paint for photography, using color choices to please the lens. But when in person they seem off or unreal. Ive always painted to please my eyes, and this video finaly explains how i paint and think. Thank you!
Great style on the video! I am liking it. Great job!
Gotta say... your video Language hit another Level. Great Video!
Chalkboard segment A++
Love the intro. I dont know what it reminds me of, maybe like that Good Eats and earlier era of programs. Bill Nye, Beakman, etc.
I needed this video, my marines are Naggaroth Night. Or basically dioxazine purple. Really dark and dealing with the values while not drifting into pinks for highlighting to keep the purple cold is a real challenge. Elminiturista is definitely one of my big references to achieve the look i want.
My guys been pumping out videos love it
I really like the darker look. The mini looks fantastic.
Great topic and choice for a video. Super helpful
I'm loving seeing you in my recommend videos again!!!!!
Love to see you stretching your skills. Keep up the great work.
I would love to see a second video on the subject, maybe with elminiaturista so we can see how you learn this style of painting as an apprentice
I find I have a similar issue. Most of my mini's tend to be bright and vibrant so much so it has kind of become my "Style" but recently I've been trying to do darker more moody pieces and run into the same issues and getting frustrated with it, I'm glad to see even painters of your level run into issues like this and I will have to try some of what you suggested
I am illegally early to this one.
EDIT: This is something I've always struggled with so this is super helpful! Thanks! I love the way the hair and face looks on this, lower body is a bit underwhelming in comparison but we improve every time we do something. I think it definitely turned out really nice overall
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I like the experiment, nice paint job.
It's always very interesting when you try out new things. I had a similar issue in the past. I solved it by using highly saturated colors and glazing over the highlights a lot. Normaly my highlights are something like ivory. So I tried to always have some color in there.
Wonderful work. I haven't jumped into Warframe 1999 yet but I hope that the "normal" Warframes get miniature treatment. I'd love to go to town painting a display model of one of my favourite Warframes. Perhaps Citrine would make for an amazing project but most of the frames would look awesome.
Personally, I think leaving the lower half of the model darker and more desaturated and only putting highlights and more saturated color on the upper half does a fantastic job of guiding the eyes towards what is most important, the face and upper body. I know you have many years of experience and thus you have most likely become very critical of your talent, but you are an excellent painter. Everything you put paint on at this point comes out beautiful.
It is also good to see you are continuing to learn and grow, and I am happy to see your progress on this hobby journey.
11:26 I don't think going to black is a bad choice. If it were me, I would've tried mixing some black and red into the shadows, making the blues kinda go a little purple.
Good video, loved watching the problem solving.
You could desaturate the blue with the brown you're using, I tend to mix my different colors to see whether that provides an interesting alternative that still provides cohesion. In this case, blue and brown make a blackish grey that is WAY more interesting as opposed to black. Black tends to slap colors down, whereas blue and brown pigments cancel each other out. Also it is great because you can gradient it pretty well. You could also have made the bottom more interesting by giving it more structrure, like a pattern, to break up the mini.
oh hell yeah! warframe!! love what you did there!
So much crunchy theory i love it, my boy busting out the chalk board and pie charts Im sold
I can't wait for Scott to dive into the world of chalk after this video
My eyes can't help getting pulled to the arms, I don't know if that is a win or not. But it's definitely an effect
I really like the final result, the mini looks really good and I also agree that sometimes You tend to have problems with contrast because you go too bright with a paint scheme. Recently I have also encountered a problem of my own, I feel trapped in a specific way of painting (base, shade, highlight) because I need to keep coherency with all my Necromunda models. Although the paint schemes are very different, I feel the method needs to be basically the same to keep them all on the same level. Some advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you, this is an interesting idea to explore. I struggle a lot with putting in enough contrast without making things look cartoonish. Well, unless I'm painting something that's comically evil like my current set of swamp goblins in which case I just let it happen. I end up with a lot of issues with things like washes & highlights desaturating my minis so they end up kind of blah.
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That looks great Scott. Thanks for the link. 75mm FTW!
Today, Miniac goes Spanish!
I feel like a lot of the Spanish painters I see on Instagram use similar ideas. Nice to see the theory explained!
Haha, that was the most stealth warframe sales video thus far.
I have to say, out of all the channels spruiking warframe your model has easily been one of the best painted.
I saw that same Lion post! I agree with you, the top half looks amazing but the legs doo look a bit dull in comparison. Btw I just got your recommended products in today and am excited to give them a try!
Great video. Love these experiments
Imagine if every videogame release included some free stls! It's pretty awesome/business smart for this company to sponsor some hobby channels to promote this game. I will try out the game, just because I really like the Infinity aesthetic.
My paint jobs seem to be on the darker side. I put it down to me painting with two bright lights close to the model while I paint. Sort of making me paint dark thinking that I was painting bright. Its only when i go back to them days later that I notice/realise.
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I run into this issue primarily with skintones - I always want to brighten them up and they end up ashen or chalky. More like corpses than healthy flesh. This was very insightful and helpful!
I think skintones are super susceptible to this
Heck yeah, great experiment and video. Thanks!
Nice work! I think it looks good! I think the experiment is worth pursuing further. I think the face still ended up pretty bright compared to the example model of what Scott was shooting for.
I tell myself I am letting the environment the model is in narratively influence how high the highlights and how low the shadows go. But realistically, I probably just paint what the model looks like in my head. Which is always putting things through a 1990's Saturday Morning Cartoon filter. Overly saturated and lacking subtlety. 😂
I am not doing to lie. As a Warframe buff and Mini Painter, I would love to see DE team up with a company like Wargames Atlantic to make a Warframe Miniatures game.
There are so many factions to add.
Grineer (Unstable clones who specialize in projectile weapons and melee)
Corpus (Space Capitalists who use robots and energy weapons)
Infested (Literally the Warframe equivalent to The Flood from Halo)
Sentients (Floating robots who can adapt to incoming damage)
Murmur (Eldrich heralds hailing from the void, servants of The Man In The Wall)
Tenno (The protagonists and their allies)
really like the blue/orange scheme
I am really motivated to print one of these now. I saw them but didn't really know what direction to take them.
Great episode!!
Thank you for you train of thought. Over highlighting minis, might also be a problem I have.
This video was really interesting because I always am looking for ways to boost saturation. I am wondering how much this is due to paint selection, but highlight vs shadow distribution gives me a lot to think about. Are their paint ranges that tend to be more desaturated? Do models with intense saturation get painted with inks to make things pop? Very interested to know your thoughts.
Great video!
I'm loving the return the the verbose chalkboard!! I've missed it terribly
The section at 11:00 is really great. It's good to hear what is 'wrong' articulated like this because a lot of less experienced people will know when something is off but not really sure 'what' is off. So going over stuff like this is excellent content IMHO.
I love reds and, blacks but because of this is never let my reds too dark to make sure they contrast the blacks. I also use deep rich reds with only the spares amounts of brights for tiny highlights.
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Her face is amazing, and the rest of her looks great also. I will, however, ask you if some edge highlighting and black panel lining might tighten it up a bit?
I used to paint too dark. I fixed it by painting in the same light that the mini would be used in, rather than under super bright painting lights.