Does The Bible Affirm The Existence of Other gods?

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  • @MikeTMike
    @MikeTMike 5 місяців тому +3

    Yes, it does

  • @bubblegumgun3292
    @bubblegumgun3292 5 місяців тому +4

    you cant be monotheist and openly admit there Is or Was other gods
    Henotheism is still polytheism

    • @haddow777
      @haddow777 5 місяців тому

      Sure, if you take a simplistic ignorant view of what the bible says. The bible claims there are 3 major groupings of intelligent beings in existence. God, angels, and humans. God is one being, many times refered to using a plural form, but not because he is more than one, but because in ancient Hebrew the plural form could mean many ot majestic. God being given the plural form was to extol his majesty.
      Humans come in a couple forms in the bible. Sinless and sinful. In modern language, we use perfect abd imperfect, but whichever wording you use, the real meaning is somewhat lost in translation, because no matter what, people infer wrong traits to these terms due to current day understandings of what those words mean. Being a sinless human or a sinful human isn't making a claim of actions taken, but just the state of the being. The sinful human doesn't even have to have sinned, as in committed a sinful action, to be considered sinful. Basically, they are defective, broken, not what was intended. Dead. This one confuses people. People are alive, but to God, sinful humans are considered dead. The best way to think about that is that we are guaranteed to die. Popular fiction has used a view like this many times. The walking dead was a title give to death row inmates walking to their execution. Their fate was sealed, they just haven't actually died yet. Similarly with people given lethal doses of poison. Their death is guaranteed and unstoppable, but they haven't quite died yet. Still calling them dead isn't wrong in the language.
      Angels are for more complicated. The bible describes many types of angels. There are other terms that can be used instead of Angel. Sons of God, messenger, or godlike.
      Also, the bible claims that in the instances where the bible says God spoke to humans, it was actually through angels. Angels would appear to humans and speak in God's name and speak his words, so to the human, it was to them that they were speaking directly to God, but it was really to a representative angel of God.
      This is not unusual. Businesses send out representative agents all the time who speak using authority assigned to them from someone higher in the company. They can even be assigned the authority to make deals that would be binding to the authority, not the representative themself.
      More, the bible shows God did this with humans. When seeing Moses to Pharoah, God said he was going to make Moses God to Aaron and to Pharoah. Moses was to speak the words God gave him, and to Aaron and Pharoah, it was to be as if God himself was present in the room speaking, not Moses.
      To further complicate the matter respecting angels, there are the devils and demons. The bible, unlike what many think, is actually a story about a war in heaven that has spilled out onto Earth.
      It says God created angels, and they existed with him in heaven before the universe was created. Up until the creation of man, all the angels were the sons of God and lived in peace. For whatever reason, one angel rebelled against God. Claimed he was a liar and a tyrant. He then destroyed humanity as an act of violence against God.
      As it was the first time any intelligent being had ever called into question God's honesty or his ability to rule, it created a very special problem for God to fix.
      If God claims he is honest and is rhe best ruler for all intelligent beings, can we believe him? Should we believe him. One of his creation doesn't think so and risked death to make the claim. This is the thought going through every angel's mind after that.
      The bible claims that after that, a number of other angels sided with the Accuser in questioning God's goodness and authority.
      These rebellious angels are the devils and demons the bible speaks about. Moreover, angels all had power over the physical world. The bible says that they could appear as humans, cause fires, create snakes, etc.
      In heaven, the war took the form of a trial. God could have killed the rebellious angel later called Satan rhe devil, but it wouldn't have proved him a liar. God allowed for the devil to prove his case. This allowance for the devil to present his evidence involved having authority over the world of humans. The bible goes as far as saying Satan is the ruler of this world. As ruler, he had authority to do as he pleased. He ruled nations through his demons, or fellow rebellious angels. They used their advanced angelic powers to make themselves gods amongst men.
      What would God allow them to use power he gave them to trick humans? God, as part of proving his case against the devil, similarly had to interact with humans. The devil had the whole world to use to make his case, except for the people God took out of the world for himself. He told them before making his covenant with them that he was making them a nation of priests. They were to be an example to the world of God's rulership and how it is better than the devil's rulership.
      In a way, the devil and God were fighting their war here on Earth with humans as their chess pieces.
      Many are shocked by the events of the Hebrew scriptures. In a very real way, that is the point. In any event, God showed over and over again that the power of all other gods, or that of his rebellious angels, pales in comparison to his own.
      This is because, while they act like gods, they only have the power God assigned to angels. It is not God's full power. So, they will always be weaker than God. They are godlike, not God.
      So, that is how Israel was a monotheistic nation in the midst of many gods. God treated other gods as gods only because they held that position in the minds of men. God's heavenly war isn't a war of weapons, but a war of minds. God is fighting for the minds of both angels and humans. If a human believes strongly enough in a god, God knows that in his mind that god is real. So he speaks to them in terms of that God being real becauee he is speaking to that man. It's a real philosophical concept. He's granting the humans respect by treating his gods as real and then disproving them as real through logic and actions. The best way to disprove their god is to prove them powerless rather than to just claim they aren't real.

    • @Vynix1
      @Vynix1 5 місяців тому

      @@haddow777you wrote this for no reason because no one will read it

    • @haddow777
      @haddow777 5 місяців тому

      @@Vynix1 gee golly gosh. Well, since you are the authority on comments, I guess it must be true. Yet, I've had no problems getting comments from people who have read things I have written. I guess there may still be people who can read more than two sentences at a time still.

    • @MrGreensweightHist
      @MrGreensweightHist 5 місяців тому

      There isn't a single monotheistic religion on he planet.
      Christianity is polytheistic, they just refuse to admit it.

    • @FIRE0KING
      @FIRE0KING 2 місяці тому

      ​@@haddow777 so you are mixing the epic poem 'Paradise lost' by John Milton in with your theology. Stop it.

  • @StrGzr101
    @StrGzr101 5 місяців тому +1

    Does The Hobbit reference Harry Potter? Hmmm, I dunno, I'll have to get back to you on that one.

  • @tjhollen
    @tjhollen 5 місяців тому +1

    "gods" (lowercase) is also used for human kings and rulers. There is only one true, living God - the Most High, the Almighty, the Alpha & Omega.

    • @JASA_87
      @JASA_87 5 місяців тому

      Prove it

    • @tjhollen
      @tjhollen 5 місяців тому

      @@JASA_87 prove what?

    • @rationalreview5178
      @rationalreview5178 5 місяців тому

      Did ancient Hebrew have capital letters?

    • @JASA_87
      @JASA_87 5 місяців тому

      @@tjhollen your claim

    • @cainebarrettduggan5337
      @cainebarrettduggan5337 5 місяців тому

      @@rationalreview5178I don’t think they had to concept on uppercase and lowercase

  • @MrGreensweightHist
    @MrGreensweightHist 5 місяців тому

    The Bible can't even affirm the existence of its own god.
    But, yes, it claims other gods as part of its story

  • @AngelusWrightPrinze
    @AngelusWrightPrinze 5 місяців тому

    all so-called "gods" including us are Aliens.

  • @AnticsFrantic
    @AnticsFrantic 2 місяці тому

    Does The Bible Affirm The Existence of Other gods?
    Yes. Easy. Next.

  • @grimlund
    @grimlund 5 місяців тому +4

    I dont think that many christians know this but El or Elohim later known as Jahwe, the God of the Bible actually has two children. Baal and Anat. And they are gods them self.
    Christians dont even know what they believe in.

    • @rationalreview5178
      @rationalreview5178 5 місяців тому

      I thought the point was that YHWH is the son of El and not the same entity. My Christian school taught they were the same entity.

    • @cainebarrettduggan5337
      @cainebarrettduggan5337 5 місяців тому

      Well originally El was worshipped as the creator God and one of his sons was YHWH later those two deites were fused into the YHWH the Jews now worship

    • @unknown-zy6dp
      @unknown-zy6dp 5 місяців тому

      @@cainebarrettduggan5337 Why do you think every ancient religion matches up almost to a T (winged beings gods come down fornicate w women resulting in Demi god giants
      ) except in all other ones the offspring and evil gods who r*p3 and pillage are viewed as the ones to be worshipped. Who’s doing the deceiving? Why is the abrahamic faith the only one up for question when it’s the only one that explains away the others? When it’s the only one that ties them all together under one context that can reveal the mystery as to what was going on in the ancient world?

    • @cainebarrettduggan5337
      @cainebarrettduggan5337 5 місяців тому

      @@unknown-zy6dp I never said the Abrahamic faith is the only up for question. I also don’t think that every ancient religion ties up (a lot of them do). As an atheist I question every faith and personally don’t believe in any of them. Faith is also stupid. I also don’t see how the Abrahamic faith is the only faith which dismisses the other ones. The 3 Abrahamic religions can’t even reconcile eachother

  • @Austation4850
    @Austation4850 5 місяців тому

    Isn’t Enoch not canon

    • @FIRE0KING
      @FIRE0KING 2 місяці тому

      It's cannon in the Ethiopian tradition I think. Which has been Christian for a lot longer that Europe. Either way, it is an important text to understand to better understand the hebrew bible and the NT