I love these comparisons 😁 After listening through the sample files, I feel like "A" has a wider soundscape and clearer separation of the high notes. Quite surprised the difference was this noticeable, both sound quite good though.
For home listening I’d probably prefer B. A has more hi end extension, which probably causes its slightly wider soundstage, but starts to sound harsh on some recordings. B is rounder, with no harshness at all which makes it more pleasant. My choice is B, but it would also depend on the speakers response/character; rounder/duller speakers with A, brighter speakers with B. Thank you Francisco!
B for me on my system based on switching part of video. Low end better - deeper soundstage - more 3 d because the B cartridge seems to relax & seperate better in lower freq. A seems to compress lower a bit.. Both are a bit harsh in High freq which may be stylus related? Not a really big difference between the two. My 2 cents
B has more tonal spectrum, A has slightly more leading edge attack, but less tonal spectrum. I suspect B is the 2M and A is the Concorde. I await the answer. I would prefer to own B
I had the 2M black in the past and will guess it is B. I must say I don’t know the Concorde so it will be challenging to identify. The 2M is a great choice for a MM stylus although being exposed to MC it’s difficult to go back.
I'm pretty sure an Ortofon Music stylus will work just fine on Concorde DJ cart. Ortofon does list the specs for DC and load resistance but I'm sure they're virtually the same. And those are basically the only things that can differ between the different generators. Those specs differ so little it won't matter between the regular 2M's and the old Concorde generators had the same specs. So it's likely the difference is not big for the CM's either. If you have a DJ MKII you don't need to buy the whole cart, just the Stylus.
Gracias a ti :) Así van las votaciones: 17 personas prefieren la A 18 personas prefieren la B 10 personas no tienen un ganador claro La B está remontando. Mañana desvelaré cuál es cuál.
Just a slight preview on the mobile..... A more open, just a bit, seems very similar.... Since listen on mobile i cant hear any lower spectrum and differences. I assume A is 2M. Concorde Music styluses fit to OM/regular Concorde? Thanks And its interesting how those two styluses differ in compliance rate, different arms target.
Hey Manuel 😃 Concorde Music styli are not compatible with the 'old' OM and Concorde MKi but with Concorde MKii models. As for now: A: 15 votes B: 8 votes Dunno... 7 votes
Así van las votaciones: 17 personas prefieren la A 18 personas prefieren la B 10 personas no tienen un ganador claro La B está remontando. Mañana es el gran día :P
A is faster, and has more Energy but a little higher distortion. B is limited in the speed especially when high hits are done. The stereoscopic picture is smaller. It is smoother and reveals good but not at the same level as A. I would assume Ais the new Concorde Music Black.
@@HiFisquarepants That is hard. Technically I like A more because it is faster and has more energy, but sometimes it seems too much. Longer hearing will be better with B. So I would go for B finally.
Gracias! Así van las votaciones: 17 personas prefieren la A 18 personas prefieren la B 10 personas no tienen un ganador claro La B está remontando. Mañana es el gran día ;)
@@HiFisquarepants Nice, interesting how the votes were so evenly distributed across A and B. Really goes to show that you can't go wrong with either one!
Hello, I have a question about headshells. Is there any difference between them? I own a technics 1210GR and have the original headshell, but I have a different cartridge and would like to fit it in a different headshell. Which one can you recommend?
There is Nothing what we can compare. Its a compressed UA-cam Video that we hear on different mobiles, pc, Tablets, tiny speakers and different headphones. We can not tell the differences on your System. Its Impossible.
@@HiFisquarepants Thanx for the test. Concorde music has better pronounciated low end, and almost same highs (may be a bit more patient). That's sad that these are at a senseless price range (it's not $100 already, and it's not $1k where a good sound begins)
both sound very good and similar being Ortofon . i prefer A, more spacious open and natural
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I love these comparisons 😁 After listening through the sample files, I feel like "A" has a wider soundscape and clearer separation of the high notes. Quite surprised the difference was this noticeable, both sound quite good though.
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For home listening I’d probably prefer B.
A has more hi end extension, which probably causes its slightly wider soundstage, but starts to sound harsh on some recordings.
B is rounder, with no harshness at all which makes it more pleasant.
My choice is B, but it would also depend on the speakers response/character; rounder/duller speakers with A, brighter speakers with B.
Thank you Francisco!
My pleasure :)
For the moment:
A: 17 votes
B: 18 votes
No winner: 10 votes
Tomorrow I'll reveal which is which ;)
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Totally agree with the above!
This closely matches my findings and choice.
B for me on my system based on switching part of video. Low end better - deeper soundstage - more 3 d because the B cartridge seems to relax & seperate better in lower freq. A seems to compress lower a bit.. Both are a bit harsh in High freq which may be stylus related? Not a really big difference between the two. My 2 cents
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Excellent test. Both sound good . A sounds more full bodied and B more transparent.
I am most interested on how well they handle inner groove distortion. Sibilance on the the inside most track is the bane of my recording.
B has more tonal spectrum, A has slightly more leading edge attack, but less tonal spectrum. I suspect B is the 2M and A is the Concorde. I await the answer. I would prefer to own B
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I had the 2M black in the past and will guess it is B. I must say I don’t know the Concorde so it will be challenging to identify. The 2M is a great choice for a MM stylus although being exposed to MC it’s difficult to go back.
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Both sound the same to me, and listened to the lossless samples on my Audio Technica ATH-M50x headphones. I heard no difference between the two.
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I'm betting B is the Concorde. I have an Super OM40 and its similarly punchy
I'm pretty sure an Ortofon Music stylus will work just fine on Concorde DJ cart. Ortofon does list the specs for DC and load resistance but I'm sure they're virtually the same. And those are basically the only things that can differ between the different generators. Those specs differ so little it won't matter between the regular 2M's and the old Concorde generators had the same specs. So it's likely the difference is not big for the CM's either. If you have a DJ MKII you don't need to buy the whole cart, just the Stylus.
Me gusta mas la B, gracias por tus aportes y dedicación
Gracias a ti :)
Así van las votaciones:
17 personas prefieren la A
18 personas prefieren la B
10 personas no tienen un ganador claro
La B está remontando.
Mañana desvelaré cuál es cuál.
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Both sound very good 😍, but I prefer B 😊.
Fair enough! 😛
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could you please compare the Ortofon Music Black to the Concorde Elite? I'd love to hear the difference between them.
I liked option A, I thought it was concord, since they sound louder) But it turned out not to be. My choice is A. 😍
Just a slight preview on the mobile..... A more open, just a bit, seems very similar.... Since listen on mobile i cant hear any lower spectrum and differences. I assume A is 2M.
Concorde Music styluses fit to OM/regular Concorde? Thanks
And its interesting how those two styluses differ in compliance rate, different arms target.
Hey Manuel 😃
Concorde Music styli are not compatible with the 'old' OM and Concorde MKi but with Concorde MKii models.
As for now:
A: 15 votes
B: 8 votes
Dunno... 7 votes
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Close but that male voice and definition of bassdrum and snare drum 🥁 settled it very clearly in A's favour.
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I heard shure white label with Jacob styli is good, at least for dj. Maybe you can compare!
Jico*
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El A tiene bajos un poco mas profundos y un poco mas de separacion, el B tiene mejor IGD dando un sonido un poco mas limpio, apostaria el A es el 2M
Buen aporte, pero cuál prefieres?
A: 15 votes
B: 8 votes
Dunno... 7 votes
@@HiFisquarepants Yo siempre sacrificare un poco de sepracion y bajos por limpieza osea bajo IGD prefiero la B
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@@HiFisquarepants Jajaja pegue
Both sound excellent and I would be happy to own either, but A is the clear winner for me.
Thanks!
For the moment:
A: 15 votes
B: 8 votes
Dunno... 7 votes
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A bote pronto, sin auriculares, directamente reproducido desde el teléfono móvil, me gusta más B.
Saludos!
Así van las votaciones:
17 personas prefieren la A
18 personas prefieren la B
10 personas no tienen un ganador claro
La B está remontando.
Mañana es el gran día :P
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A is faster, and has more Energy but a little higher distortion. B is limited in the speed especially when high hits are done. The stereoscopic picture is smaller. It is smoother and reveals good but not at the same level as A. I would assume Ais the new Concorde Music Black.
Which one do you prefer? Thanks!
For the moment:
A: 17 votes
B: 18 votes
No winner: 10 votes
Tomorrow I'll reveal which is which ;)
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@@HiFisquarepants That is hard. Technically I like A more because it is faster and has more energy, but sometimes it seems too much. Longer hearing will be better with B. So I would go for B finally.
There’s a negligible difference between them, if any at all, but for reasons I can’t quantify, I slightly prefer A.
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Con las 2 sería feliz, pero me quedo con la A.
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Gracias! Así van las votaciones:
17 personas prefieren la A
18 personas prefieren la B
10 personas no tienen un ganador claro
La B está remontando.
Mañana es el gran día ;)
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A the Concorde Black, B the 2M Black.
I own the 2M Black myself, but despite that, I'm not completely sure lol
Thanks! :) But which one do you prefer? 🙂
A: 15 votes
B: 8 votes
Dunno... 7 votes
@@HiFisquarepants I think I prefer A, probably because the grass is always greener on the other side.
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@@HiFisquarepants Nice, interesting how the votes were so evenly distributed across A and B.
Really goes to show that you can't go wrong with either one!
Hello, I have a question about headshells. Is there any difference between them? I own a technics 1210GR and have the original headshell, but I have a different cartridge and would like to fit it in a different headshell. Which one can you recommend?
my preference is also B.
A sounds nicer with better separation of vocals, instruments, and better decay of notes. B has a more compressed sound in comparison.
For the moment:
A: 17 votes
B: 18 votes
No winner: 10 votes
Tomorrow I'll reveal which is which ;)
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A sounds more wide open. I'd go for it ☺️
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A is OK.😉
I thought B was more balanced and I'm guessing it's the 2M black.
A: 15 votes
B: 8 votes
Dunno... 7 votes
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I prefer B, and next week we'll discover wich is wich and who is who 😁 A seems mixing channels a bit.
For the moment:
A: 15 votes
B: 8 votes
Dunno... 7 votes
For the moment:
A: 17 votes
B: 18 votes
No winner: 10 votes
Tomorrow I'll reveal which is which ;)
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A has more "air". B is thicker / more dense. My old ears prefer A.
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A - Concorde, B - 2M Black.
Thanks, which one do you prefer?
@@HiFisquarepants Whether I'm correct or not I prefer B, it sounds a little more refined and natural.
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@@HiFisquarepants Glad to be wrong here, the Concorde sounds excellent.
What happens if an Ortofon Elite stylus is mounted on a common traditional Concorde cartridge or on an OM cartridge? Thanks
I prefer A, fatter and more full. B sounds a little thinner and weaker.
They sound almost the same. I'd buy the cheaper one.
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I prefere Cartridge A.
A is 2m B is concord. Prefer B, more natural.
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A Concorde B 2M :-)
A ist a little bit better.
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A=CD sound B=analog sound
A is richer
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A. Ortofon B Concorde
Thanks, which one do you prefer?
I prefer B,more detailed
A. wider soundstage, less compression...did you switch the two at round 2?
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There is Nothing what we can compare. Its a compressed UA-cam Video that we hear on different mobiles, pc, Tablets, tiny speakers and different headphones. We can not tell the differences on your System. Its Impossible.
@@re-gamer try the lossless files
To be honest, I have no idea how you watch the videos.
@@HiFisquarepants Thats the whole point.
@@HiFisquarepants Better, but it is the same Problem. I hear a Interpretation. More important is your opinion. Not what i hear.
@@HiFisquarepants Notebook, FIIO USB Soundcard, FiiO IEMs.
B sounds a bit better
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@@HiFisquarepants Thanx for the test. Concorde music has better pronounciated low end, and almost same highs (may be a bit more patient). That's sad that these are at a senseless price range (it's not $100 already, and it's not $1k where a good sound begins)
A
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A sounds better for me
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без разницы
100% A