How To Spot Fake Chinese Ancient Coins

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  • @canadagoose188
    @canadagoose188 2 роки тому +1

    I once found a fake made out of plastic that was already broken and when I picked it up it broke apart even more

  • @Rockit0626
    @Rockit0626 7 років тому

    I found the same set at a thrift store today and they looked old to the point the coins were sticking to the plastic case.
    With your videos I am so confidence my finding is a real one.
    Thank you for sharing your video. It is very informative.

  • @scottsemans9978
    @scottsemans9978 10 років тому +9

    I've been a dealer and collector of Chinese coins for 30+ years. Thanks for sharing this useful information. However, the first two coins you show as fakes are authentic. You note "sandblasted" and that's about it: they've likely been tumbled in a rock tumbler with sand to make them clean and shiny for jewelry use. Most cash coins imported into the US are sold for this purpose, not for collecting. You also show a modern fake of Hsuan Tung, but the one in your glue-on set is not clear enough to tell . . . but, my guess is it's a fake too. This is the only really scarce reign in the "Ten Emperors" set and most of such sets have 9 genuine plus this one fake. Finally, your instincts on the charm are correct, it's badly made and almost certainly a modern VERSION of an older charm, but technically there are no such things as false charms, only older or newer, better-made or worse-made, since charms are not official mint products, and nobody knows when the "first" of any given design was made. Many designs are copied for centuries, so an 18th C. copy of a 16th C. "original" is old-looking and collectable. I urge would-be collectors to buy inexpensive cash ONLY until they develop an eye for these distinctions, and then seek guidance from more advanced collectors as to who are reliable dealers, and which coins are good, before investing more than $10 or so in any piece. The fakes of RARE pieces are so much better made than these hasty jewelry copies. Even after decades collecting, I still have my own experts to go to, and even they will disagree on some pieces.

    • @toddcorley464
      @toddcorley464 6 років тому

      Scott Semans just posted a video of my coins.maybe you could look at them and tell me about them.there may be a few charms in there to

    • @ernjhay
      @ernjhay 6 років тому

      Scott Semans hi few years ago i found this coin in clear water bay beach can you help me to idenfy it.. thanks

    • @tomlinton2629
      @tomlinton2629 6 років тому

      I have some really neat old Chinese coins . Some look like little swords and a frying pan looking one and some really big ones etc. Do you have info ? I tried and never get an answer for these

    • @okoyeizuchukwufrancis6077
      @okoyeizuchukwufrancis6077 5 років тому

      I have sm Chinese coins old ones. I want to sell them . If u can help sell them . Link me up here .

    • @HULK-mu2ub
      @HULK-mu2ub 2 роки тому

      Hi i need a help bro am having some Chinese coins i found from a lake in south India....can you identify it.....there is no way for a ship to reach in that lake because it is surrounded by land....i am having some coins collected from there ...i think more coins are available in the river...

  • @okaybutwhythough7456
    @okaybutwhythough7456 5 років тому +2

    So when I lived in Asia,I went to store to buy some new coins for my collection,and I saw that old Chinise-like coin,the owner of the store said that it is a coin from 7th century,and at least 1,210 years old. I bought it for 1 dollar and 25 cents.
    And it doesn't look fake

    • @richhartnell6233
      @richhartnell6233 5 років тому

      If it was from China that date tells me it’s from the Tang Dynasty.

  • @Coinpicker
    @Coinpicker  10 років тому +2

    Hi, I think the set was packaged in Taiwan but the should be real because of the quality. Back in 1949, as the Nationalist government lost the civil war in China, they fled to Taiwan with many antiquities and national treasures so I'm not surprised if they shipped out tons of cash coins for the copper. They would be useful for munitions manufacturing. Cheers!

  • @MotorCityMagnetFishers
    @MotorCityMagnetFishers 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the informational video. My grandfather brought a bunch of these coins back from Korea from when he was stationed there. I have never been able to decipher the markings on them to determine where and when they are from. Is there a website where I can see pictures of the variations? I would really like to know more about them.

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  2 роки тому

      If you can send me pics of front and back I can help research them for you? Coinpicker@hotmail.com.

  • @Coinpicker
    @Coinpicker  10 років тому

    Hi B.O.,
    Similar to milled coins, cast coins are graded on wear. However, there is not as many grades as they are crude to begin with. The best grade equivalent to UNC would be EF where the characters are crisp and there's a roughness to the coin from original casting. Then you 'll see traces of the original file marks across both surfaces. On the other end, poor-fair would be where the characters are almost illegible because the wear fills in the space between the strokes of the characters. CP

  • @DiggingItBack
    @DiggingItBack 3 роки тому +2

    I was out metal detecting and found a Chinese coin with 1862 to 1874 on the back of it. I did some minor research the one I found doesn't have the bumps or dots to suggest replica coin. But I wouldn't imagine that a Chinese coin would have numeric numbers on it. Did they do such a thing. I realize this is an old video was hoping you could help. Thanks

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  3 роки тому +2

      Hi! Sounds like a souvenir replica. Chinese coins, especially cash coins older than 100 years old rarely use Arabic numerals or English on them. The two dates basically are the start and end of an Emperor’s reign (after the fact). It would not make sense in English or Chinese to put start and end date on a current coin unless they knew the future. Lol! I know of such “medallions” in souvenir sets in gift shops overseas and in Chinatowns all over.

    • @DiggingItBack
      @DiggingItBack 3 роки тому

      @@Coinpicker Thanks for the information I kinda figured something was Off LOL.

  • @bill4572
    @bill4572 2 роки тому +1

    I have a few 1 cash coins have to check them out nice info

  • @tinovanderzwanphonocave544
    @tinovanderzwanphonocave544 6 років тому

    the coins were not only cast in sand, clay molds exist and even stone ones it would be fun to make a coin this way.
    when the coins came out of the molds they would be ruff and had to be sanded flat on a wet stone on both sides (that's the reason for the fat rim and recessed areas on the coin) if you think the coin was now all done because it looks just like the coins we find then you are wrong the recessed areas were filled with a lacker paint and polished flush with the brass surface most of the residue of this paint we find on these coins today seems to be of the black variety but there were those with red and blue pgment incapsulated in the rust of the coin
    these coins must have been a real colorful affair in their day!

  • @Figs4Life
    @Figs4Life 11 років тому +1

    Could you pls tell me what metal that coin is made of, the weigh and what could you buy back then with 1 or 2 of those coins pls?

  • @joshuamoore24_7
    @joshuamoore24_7 2 роки тому

    I have a "double dragon and lotus flower coin $$$$$$" video. I am not sure what year or if it's a wing dynasty coin. There is the three lines like Yung Cheng Chinese character. I think also means 3.

  • @elizabethjack595
    @elizabethjack595 7 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for your time and consideration and helpful

  • @moneymania8118
    @moneymania8118 2 роки тому +1

    Super cool. Started to explore.

  • @Trtlman
    @Trtlman 6 років тому

    I have a fake Kuang, that second to last coin, that was stamped out of copper and plated in brass and cheaply made.

  • @Haaklong
    @Haaklong 7 років тому

    The Wade-Giles gave me cancer, ABD the fact that they used the modern Chinese flag for the Qing too. Nice information by the way.

  • @koinbolong
    @koinbolong 2 роки тому +2

    I have ancient Chinese coin

  • @As-op5so
    @As-op5so 5 років тому

    This kind of coin is too common and large in quantity, and it has been discovered many times from underground. I have a Qing dynasty to create twenty essays, and that I have to reverse one hundred and sixty degrees. How many of the world are there?

  • @sirwolf3439
    @sirwolf3439 7 років тому

    Hey coinpicker I was wondering where I could get this article :) I really need one lol thanks

  • @boylerosteroneroster3032
    @boylerosteroneroster3032 10 років тому

    I actually found four of these Chien Lung coins. They are authentic though. I found them in an "empty", discarded coin bag that had been stored by the Odd Fellows for many years. There was also a Mexican coin from the 1890's. I was curious what can I do to authenticate them? I have a good collection of other coins too. I am curious of the grading process for dummies if anyone can help me out, I'd be very appreciative. Thank you!

  • @julianhsu5041
    @julianhsu5041 2 роки тому

    My grandpa died in 1991 at age 91 in Taipei. He was born 5 years after Taiwan was ceded to Japan as part of peace treaty after Ching Dynasty lost the war in 1895. Anyway, I found lots those coins in the drawer in his closet. I believe they are authentic. They look just like those real ones in the video. I took 3 of them with me to the US. I should have taken more. 😂

  • @davidmichael1951
    @davidmichael1951 4 роки тому +1

    I'm still not clear on a few things. Are you saying that ancient Chinese coins are incapable of retaining / restoring to a shiny brass appearance (by default, regardless of their history, handling, or attempts at preservation)?

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  4 роки тому

      Hi Dave, There are many ways of interpreting this. My main point is authentic early Chinese cash coins were cast in sand molds as opposed to machine milling and pressing which was available towards the end of the 19th century for China. Cheers! CP

    • @herodotus6235
      @herodotus6235 3 роки тому

      David Michael There are in fact many errors in this video. It made me laugh when he said he thought it was impossible for a coin to be bright and shiny if was “nearly 200 years old” 🤣🤣 On the contrary, you would EXPECT it to retain some shine after such a short time, unless it had been buried the moment it had been minted 🤣 This guy seems to be from the “crusty green” school of thinking, where the coin has to be fake if it does not have 3cm of green crusty on it, or it is not “dark brown” 🤣 Honestly, do some of these guys not realise that serious collectors expect higher quality?

    • @herodotus6235
      @herodotus6235 3 роки тому

      The kind of coin that “could not possibly be shiny” would have to be at least 1000 years old. And even then, dealers and hunters will do many things to restore the shine. Is it an American failing, to think that 200 years is a long time? 200 years is yesterday 🤣

    • @GoldenCalfChannel
      @GoldenCalfChannel Рік тому

      @@herodotus6235 Let me tell you, if you cut an ancient Chinese coin, you won't see any golden yellow color in the cross-section
      Under the influence of casting technology and materials, all ancient Chinese copper coins have become a whole piece of rust
      I am Hong Kongese, there were many of these things in Hong Kong 40 years ago, and the price was probably below one US$ dollar

  • @t123ooth
    @t123ooth 7 років тому

    I have some of these coins that my father gave me that he first showed me over 60 years ago. When did these coins become fakes ?

  • @channelmysterious
    @channelmysterious 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Im treasure hunter from indonesia...🙋🙋🙋
    I found in indonesia "pis bolong/gobog"

  • @skyblue0119
    @skyblue0119 10 років тому

    I think the Guangdong one is real, they tried use British machine to made cash coin, even we can find the info in the coins books of China

  • @graciebarramcallen5499
    @graciebarramcallen5499 9 років тому

    Hello, I recently went on a trip to Taiwan, I purchased a coin while I was there. Is there any way I can send pictures to tell if it authentic?

  • @HadouGun
    @HadouGun 6 років тому

    I got some fake ones that are made out of the generic metal that they make everything cheap out of.

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  6 років тому

      New sets are fake but it seems like the older sets prior to the 1980’s had real coins.

  • @ashleyglass2082
    @ashleyglass2082 Рік тому

    I have some old Chinese coins. I dont know how to identify them. They have no shine to them. And some are like charms or something. I asked a woman about them today and she read (on the mountain or mountain top.) I'm not sure. They are dark like yours.

    • @ashleyglass2082
      @ashleyglass2082 Рік тому

      Two stuck to a magnet. But I don't think that means they are fake. Maybe they didn't get all the other metals out.

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  Рік тому

      Hi Ashley, please send me pics of the front and back of your coins to me at coinpicker@hotmail.com and I’ll be happy to identify and evaluate them for you.

  • @MichaelSwan66
    @MichaelSwan66 10 років тому

    very helpful video :) subbed :)

  • @LALA-ph9oj
    @LALA-ph9oj 2 роки тому

    Thank you much appreciated

  • @shawndon265
    @shawndon265 Рік тому +1

    I have some

  • @budi0913
    @budi0913 5 років тому +1

    saya punya koin seperti itu 3 keping sama persis

  • @yriafehtivan
    @yriafehtivan 8 років тому

    I have what appears to be a coin very similar to the machine struck brass example you showed but I cannot seem to find an entry for it in numista, which does have quite a few of the cast examples. I'd love if someone could help me out with either what search term to enter or which coin is the correct one.

    • @yriafehtivan
      @yriafehtivan 8 років тому

      +yriafehtivan I have found it. Y-190, Numista allows for searching by NGC numbers.

  • @skyblue0119
    @skyblue0119 10 років тому

    I saw Taiwan flag on top left, they maybe made in Taiwan in some Taiwanese locals people's factories.

  • @toyotasubaru7314
    @toyotasubaru7314 4 роки тому +1

    I have Chinese coins and i think its fake after when i saw your video

  • @edwinpiloneo7321
    @edwinpiloneo7321 4 роки тому +1

    Hello i have like that coins old coins i dont what year coz i can red chinese

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  4 роки тому

      Hi, please send pictures of your coins to me to identify to Coinpicker@hotmail.com.

  • @bryantan2210
    @bryantan2210 9 років тому

    Hi, I'm from the Philippines but I come to china regularly, and I'm really interested in chinese coins but now most antique stores in china have a lot of these fake coins but most of them are dark green with debris and concrete like material stuck on it. How will I know which ones are legit and ones that are fake?

    • @jamesduan5331
      @jamesduan5331 7 років тому

      If you are good friends with a Chinese person and know their family; they could give them to you as a gift. (Most Chinese people have lots of them from there great grandparents) Basically hoarding. sdf

    • @imamirfanlubis9209
      @imamirfanlubis9209 6 років тому

      Hi Mr Bryan I have ton coins dynasty, please sse my video " chinese coin dynasty in borneo "

  • @arizonacoinandbullioncolle3405
    @arizonacoinandbullioncolle3405 6 років тому

    Could you suggest someone who is trust worthy to buy a ancient Chinese coin from, we don't have any coin shops anywhere near where I live. I have one but I think it might be fake.

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  6 років тому

      Arizona Coin and Bullion Collector Hi, Check out Bob Reis at anythinganywhere.com and Frank Robinson at www.fsrcoin.com.

  • @Shotglass10001
    @Shotglass10001 8 років тому

    I thought for a min i was rich...
    U know that "rarest coin from china from the 1800s... I found one that has almost the same writeing but im sure its the 1902 china 10 cash coin ...

  • @MAXKADIE
    @MAXKADIE 11 років тому

    how much is an original set of these worth ? cheers

  • @PsychoticSpartan
    @PsychoticSpartan 6 років тому

    I have a coin that matches the one here: en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17768.html
    I believe it is fake, however, because the square in the middle in metal. There is a gold square around the middle, but no hole has been punched through. Otherwise, it's the right coloring for it's age and the weight checks out compared to the others I own (weighs about a gram more, but keep in mind the others have a hole where the metal is on this one so that could be why). In short, could it be just a mint error where they forgot to punch the hole through the square? I can't find ANYTHING online about chinese coins without the square holes and badly need help.

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  6 років тому +1

      Hi, I would think that quality control was not so great back then. However, if you bought this on EBay by a certain seller from Spain, I would be very sceptical about authenticity. The seller sells Chinese rarities for reproduction prices. They look very good but too good to be true.

    • @PsychoticSpartan
      @PsychoticSpartan 6 років тому

      I got it in someone's change at the Luray Caverns in the US. A Chinese customer offered it in place of a quarter and I thought it was cool. But it's good to know where not to buy from.

  • @jamesduan5331
    @jamesduan5331 7 років тому

    My dad and mom's parents have tons of those coins.

  • @GianlucaToppi
    @GianlucaToppi 10 років тому

    hi, I found with a metal detector a few chine coin in Indonesia. I d like know if they are original or not. can I send you a picture?
    you can see something in my last video .. "metaldetector in jungle". thanks

  • @marktregear4512
    @marktregear4512 3 роки тому

    Hi I found a coin metal detecting is there any way I can send you a picture to get more information on it thank you .

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  3 роки тому +1

      Sure. Send pics to coinpicker@hotmail.com

    • @marktregear4512
      @marktregear4512 3 роки тому

      Hi mate sent you two pics of coin 👍

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  3 роки тому

      @@marktregear4512 Hi Mark, this is a brass one cash coin from the Qing dynasty in China. The obverse says Kang Hsi Tong Bao (Emperor Kang Hsi circulating treasure), reverse two characters which should be rotated 90 degrees to the left (broken hole should be oriented to be in top-right corner), says “Dong” in Chinese character which is short for Dong Shan mint. The character is Manchu script meaning the same thing. Reigning period was 1662-1722AD.

    • @marktregear4512
      @marktregear4512 3 роки тому +1

      @@Coinpicker thank you so much I actually found this coin in the same hole as my first hammered coin . Elizabeth 1 1500 AD great stuff 👍

  • @janeyokado
    @janeyokado 8 років тому

    Even the real tao-kuang coin in this video only worth like just a dollar or two, Qing dynasty cash coin are not rare at all, it's available every where in very large quantity due to the mass production/low value($1=3000 cash coins at that time is what i can remember), people save these coins in clay pot, bury underground, usually got dug out a lot during construction. I doubt any one would spend the effort trying to fake this kind of coin, those who do usually targeting the particular version that are very rare to find, not this kind of general type coin which were in daily circulation. besides, the bright yellowish color coin in the video, looks like typical made for decoration, not likely trying to fake a genuine one.

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  8 років тому +1

      +Chuan Huang When I visited China's Guangzhou antique market, they had baskets of crudely faked qing and other dynasties cash coins. Some were bright brass while others looked like cast iron. Back in the 90's in China, if It cost 5 fen (China 5 cents) to make a fake coin to sell for 1 or 2 yuan (China $1-$2) then small operations would do that as there's so many people and tourists that they make enough volume of sales to make it worthwhile to them. Heck, some con artists there make fake, inedible rice, eggs, soy sauce, and other food stuff to turn a profit so why not coins? Not saying I wouldn't buy if I go there again but I would be extremely cautious and skeptical if I found any bargains. Even if I found something cheap and authentic, good luck trying to leave the country with it. Cheers! CP.

    • @janeyokado
      @janeyokado 8 років тому

      +Coinpicker antique market...hmm, I'm Chinese and I've never have guts to visit one, I have to admit it's like fake artist concentration camp. I bet those bright yellowish coins are made for decoration, probably some people use them trying to fool the tourists. coin collector are not very popular in China, so I think the real fake artists would go for rare coins, that's the only way to make a profit. I recall few years back I've seen genuine Song dynasty coins priced by weight, not by piece, it was like 50 yuan half kilo, and those are genuine thousand years old coins! just because they've been dug out a lot, usually measured by metric ton :-) hard to imagine anyone would even think about fake any of these kind of coins. but fooling tourist is a different thing, that make sense. Thanks for the explanation!

    • @janeyokado
      @janeyokado 8 років тому

      +Chuan Huang One thing worth mention is, amount those 10 Emperor coins, the Yung-Cheng(middle one in the first row) might have fake coin due to its higher price. Yung-Cheng only in power for 13 years, relatively shorter compare to others, and he is amount the 5 Emperors Chinese believe their coins has power according to Feng Shui, so Yung-Cheng coin with higher quality probably price around 200 - 300 Yuan (30 - 45US$), I've heard someone spot fake Yung-Cheng cash coin.

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  8 років тому

      +Chuan Huang Hi CH, to me they look authentic. The set looks like it was done in Taiwan in the 60's or 70's. Glued down. I've seen hundred year old sets that used to see them onto the board. Modern ones usually seal them in plastic pocket sheets.

    • @janeyokado
      @janeyokado 8 років тому

      +Coinpicker Sorry for the confusion, I didn't mean your set is questionable, your set looks authentic to me as well :-), I was referring to my earlier comment about no one faking Qing dynasty cash coin, it turns out there do have fake Yung-Cheng cash coin due to its higher value, but not for the rest 9 Emperors.

  • @texaswwiiandmetaldetecting6600
    @texaswwiiandmetaldetecting6600 7 років тому +1

    How old is the coin at 4:40?

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  7 років тому

      Hi Jake,It is from Guangdong, China. Machine milled from 1889 AD. Cheers! CP

  • @ME-hv9kx
    @ME-hv9kx 4 роки тому

    In Chinese coins which is the head?

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  4 роки тому

      M E Hi, in this type, I would have the obverse/head would be the 4 character side with reigning emperor name and reverse/tail would be the two character “mint mark” side.

  • @cryptochannel7751
    @cryptochannel7751 11 років тому

    Can I buy a real one & where?

  • @sadojatacoin8563
    @sadojatacoin8563 5 років тому

    I have chinese coin Dinasti ching (1622 -1874) M ,same for yor video,for sell

  • @suthat7021
    @suthat7021 2 роки тому

    ขอบคุณครับ

  • @chivasros2997
    @chivasros2997 Рік тому +1

    ខ្ញុំុំមាន

  • @user-pf1tu2cz3l
    @user-pf1tu2cz3l 5 років тому

    You Know logo coin fake or real tell year

  • @GianlucaToppi
    @GianlucaToppi 10 років тому

    AMAZING TREASURE OF CHINESE COINS FOUND IN INDONESIA WITH METAL DETECTOR

    • @imamirfanlubis9209
      @imamirfanlubis9209 7 років тому

      i agree with you, i am indonesia, i have chinese coins, total 500

  • @khalidkhalid3987
    @khalidkhalid3987 6 років тому

    I have coin 1860 for ssal

  • @quickmaster121
    @quickmaster121 4 роки тому

    On the off chance. I have 19 of these coins not sure if real or fake they where left by my deceased auntie if you could give me a message on UA-cam cheers 👍🏻

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  4 роки тому

      Hi, just send pics to me at coinpicker@hotmail.com and I’ll give you my honest opinion. Cheers! CP

  • @adorabletacuycuy9565
    @adorabletacuycuy9565 3 роки тому

    I have one of thischinese coin

  • @hl3369
    @hl3369 Рік тому

    Sir, you have very shakey hands, try using a tripod for your future videos.

  • @princessangelaraborar1193
    @princessangelaraborar1193 4 роки тому

    I have 1 set hm value?

  • @jennieograb3460
    @jennieograb3460 3 роки тому

    i have that chinise coin..

  • @sadojatacoin8563
    @sadojatacoin8563 5 років тому

    I have china coin 400 pcs same for your video,for sell

  • @atmanstih5480
    @atmanstih5480 5 років тому

    Ahave laike this vidio

  • @sirineaj6770
    @sirineaj6770 8 років тому

    I found 2of that real

  • @jamiehung4028
    @jamiehung4028 5 років тому

    The Wade-Giles gives me a migraine and the pronunciation makes me want to vomit. Information is good, but there are better Romanisation systems around. At least it was a Taiwanese source and therefore dummy Chinese wasn't involved

  • @Coinpicker
    @Coinpicker  9 років тому

    Hi GBM! Sure, email the pics to coinpicker@hotmail.com

    • @brunocoriandoli2085
      @brunocoriandoli2085 8 років тому

      +Coinpicker Hello Coinpicker, I tried sending you an email and it doesn't work?

    • @sirineaj6770
      @sirineaj6770 8 років тому

      Yes real

    • @imamirfanlubis9209
      @imamirfanlubis9209 6 років тому

      Hi Mr Picker, please tell me and some comment my video" chinese coin dynasty in borneo " thanks

  • @Anonymous-xn2xh
    @Anonymous-xn2xh 5 років тому +1

    For all the people that get fake coins:
    *Has anything real thing ever come out of China?*

    • @Coinpicker
      @Coinpicker  5 років тому

      Hi EG! Ironically yes! In 2003, when Guangzhou still had an antique & jade street market, I went into a indoor stall that had a stack of Chinese “silver” dollars for about approximately $6-8 each. I pulled out my electronic mini scale, plastic calipers, and magnet. Out of a stack of 10 coins, I found one real Fat Man or Yuan Shi Kai dollar. Can’t do that anymore these days! Thanks for your comments. CP

    • @herodotus6235
      @herodotus6235 3 роки тому

      ???? Yes. Probably a lot more than America.

  • @MiguelBenedictoLlorcacubeloAPO
    @MiguelBenedictoLlorcacubeloAPO 2 роки тому +1

    I have one

  • @atmanstih5480
    @atmanstih5480 5 років тому

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