Can't just port a game from another system without having a source code. GTA3's source has been fan reverse-engineered years ago, so while porting it to DC was an absolutely astonishing fit, the devs had a very solid starting point. So if people want more ports of their favorite 6th gen games to DC, PC or whatever - they should start reverse-engineering!: )
Outrun 2 is one I want to see on Dreamcast. It went to Xbox, then got ported as Outrun Coast 2 Coast for PC, PS2, Xbox, and even the PSP, but neither GameCube nor Dreamcast where it would've been right at home.
@@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung 100% Coast 2 Coast is my favorite driving game of all time. It would be amazing to have on Dreamcast though now that you say it I'd like a Gamecube version even more.
@@garrysmith1029 Yep, the radio issue made GTA2 pretty much unplayable on Dreamcast because of how annoying it got. Literally every time you exit and enter a vehicle, the radio station audio would reset and start again, which - in a game that's entirely revolving around stealing cars all the time - is *infuriating*. The worst one you could get was that one Japanese station, the DJ of which screams like a maniac in the beginning of the audio track. Imagine hearing THAT every time you leave the car and get back into it. Every. Single. Time. This is such a shame, because all the other aspects of this port are top-notch, the game plays and looks exactly like its PC counterpart. But the only way to enjoy it on the Dreamcast is to play with music / sound turned off.
Idk this one feels more deliberate-intentional. Quite literally, Rockstar Games snagged a deal with Sony for a timed exclusive release of GTA 3 as long as they could utilize the new hardware, months after Sega announced discontinuation of future game systems and just as Microsoft announced shipping for the o.g. Xbox. The sixth gen could’ve been different had either Sega or Microsoft got their hands on GTA 3.
I feel like Rockstar couldn't have done it back in the day. Mainly cause there's deadlines for games like this, and this is really only possible by making heavy cuts to the quality and using tricks that we only know after years of Dreamcast development. Some limits like audio compression, image compression, and loading from disc have a capped limit of what you can actually do.
@@LobotomyDC no, PS2 is 27 FPS average with motion blur active (with motion blur, the framerate drop to average 17/18 on Dreamcast). oh, and the game crash on CD because Dreamcash drive is too slow to run the game properly. So it's not running really on real hardware
This is an Alpha build, expect improvements in 2025 per the team who made this possible. I am using a CD-ROM and I have been playing it without any serious issues.
insane. this is dreamcast ??? i had a pentium 2 (333mhz) back then with only 64 megs or ram and this was not even possible to run on that machine. how on earth did they manage this on a dreamcast
Spikeout and Slashout for the Dreamcast, I believe it was a Naomi game so it would've been easy to port over like they did all the other ones. Shame we only had the original Xbox Spikeout until it was on one of the newer Yakuza titles
Windows gave me a warning for a Trojan for something called "Sabsik" coming from the Dreamcast sdk program, looked it up and it says it's not good, am I alright to ignore that?
Silent Hill 2, Resident evil 4, Metal gear solid 2, Grand theft auto vice city, San Andreas. I think San Andreas should be literally impossible though.
San Andreas is not impossible. Sega does what the others don't, it'll do SA just fine with some optimization. Same goes for all the other games that you mentioned.
@@John-nb6ep Yeah, just like Resident Evil 2 is two 700MB CDs on Psx, which then got squeezed onto a single 64MB N64 cartridge. Where there is a will there is a way.
This is amazing. Amazing is pretty good, but you know what would be even better? If someone could get the 2 Dungeons & Dragons arcade games running on the Dreamcast.
I'd love to see GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas, Scud Race, Virtua Fighter 4, Dead or Alive 3, Ninja Gaiden, Soul Calibur 2 & 3, Street Fighter EX 3, Tekken Tag Tournament, Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2, Billy Hatcher & The Giant Egg, Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2, Resident Evil 4, Daytona USA 2, & Jet Set Radio Future on the Dreamcast
The Android version is funny, it runs great on the Galaxy S2, but the Xperia Play (the so called "gaming phone") struggled to maintain 30 fps at the time. Newer Android versions straight up refuse to launch it despite it being perfectly functional on a rooted Android 14 device for some reason.
People ask: "How is it possible?" As if the Dreamcast was a 32-BIT machine or so. This game was originally developed for Dreamcast itself, was cancelled duty its discontinuation from the console market. Why this idiot question persist? Resident evil 2 was ported to a cartridge-based console, the N64, then, people ask: how GT3 on Dreamcast is possible? I'm done.
@@Alexander-ix2jp The DC CPU is 4 times slower than the PS2 CPU. The DC GPU is 5 to 10 times slower than the PS2 GPU. GD ROM is 5 times slower than PS2 DVD. But the framerate is stabilizing. They have lowered the polycount of some models and about 2-3 times lowered the draw distance. They use fake SD instead of super slow GD ROM. But the framerate is stabilizing.
ua-cam.com/video/unqcIMeqkG8/v-deo.html - This is the PS2 version, 480p, widescreen, up to 60 fps. No one has seen GTA3 on real DC HW, because there is no such version. From CD it runs at a horrible 5-15 fps with 5 times reduced draw distance. Stop droning on about "PC graphics on DC" when PS2 displays 100% polygons with full effects and 200% faster.
"Stop droning on about "PC Graphics on DC" when PS2 displays 100% polygons with full effects and 200% faster" PS2 has 50% of polygons because it's an older build that was never updated with later re-releases. PC was picked because, it's code was reverse engineered, and it's a later build. As for the polygons, this showcases the differences in PS2 and the current Dreamcast/PC build ua-cam.com/video/1TckwhzZxgQ/v-deo.html
@@hunterkrovac cope kid. No one has seen GTA3 for real DC HW, because it doesn't exist. From CD it runs disastrously, in an unusable way. From SD the fake runs at half the speed of the PS2 and has a greatly reduced draw distance. Good morning !
Impressive but it defeats the purpose of playing in older consoles IMO I still have a PS2 GBA & ps1&ps2 cds & gba cartriges Even though i could play those games in a emulador, i choose the old console to relive those days i spent playing with my friends not to make my old console a emulator itself
Not emulation fully native port and of the pc version not the ps2 so got nothing to do with the ps2 this is the pc version and newer then the ps2 version need the new pc stream version to play this pretty much tells you .. Got nothing to do with anything your talking about.. You know right gta 3 was born on the dreamcast where it was first made
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 i know its not emulator What i meant is using the old console the same way you'd use your PC to play any game you want by emulator
@@IanMicheal did you read my comment? I know its not emulator but if you start play any game on old consoles its starts to feel like you have an emulator machine/pc I play old consoles for the nostalgia ( in my case is the PS2 & GBA) Only play the games native of those consoles again because of the nostalgia If i want to play games from other consoles I then yes play on an emulator..... after buying the OG version of course 😉.. i dont condone piracy 😜
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 whats with the passive agressiveness dude I jus gave my opinion I said it eas impressive it just for me defeats the purpose of having an old hardware
It's better to play it on Xbox or PC, the PS2 version is still half the frame rate of the PC version, has the horrendous motion blur, and has a slight input lag that, while not rendering the game "unplayable" is still enough to notice the delay from button presses to character movements. This port is definitely one mostly for the diehards of the GTA fandom than anything though, for just playing the game, the PC or Xbox versions will definitely be the better option. Although it's a tremendous effort on the port makers' part regardless.
@@Rihcterwilker Unless it somehow gets ported to the PS1, then the novelty isnt quite there yet imo. Ports of games such as Doom or Rayman 2 for example had that novelty because they are like the same game but at the same time they arent with a lot of subtle changes to both graphics and level design which makes it a different experience worth playing it despite being inferior or superior, depending each one. GTA 3 DC, not so much besides the hypotetical nostalgia we could had if the game came out in that era.
@@jansimko2755They just pushed an update that improves CD-R streaming today. From one of the devs, Ian Michaels. Same one who managed to import a Deadpool model from the Xbox 360 into the Dreamcast. Sooo can't use that excuse anymore.
If you want to play this yourself head here: dca3.net/
Can't just port a game from another system without having a source code. GTA3's source has been fan reverse-engineered years ago, so while porting it to DC was an absolutely astonishing fit, the devs had a very solid starting point. So if people want more ports of their favorite 6th gen games to DC, PC or whatever - they should start reverse-engineering!: )
The Dreamcast never ceases to amaze what it (and clever people) can pull off.
I just want ports of Sega arcade games that never saw official Dreamcast releases like SpikeOut and Planet Harriers.
Oh Planet Harriers. I don't know why they never brought it to consoles.
Outrun 2 is one I want to see on Dreamcast.
It went to Xbox, then got ported as Outrun Coast 2 Coast for PC, PS2, Xbox, and even the PSP, but neither GameCube nor Dreamcast where it would've been right at home.
@@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung 100% Coast 2 Coast is my favorite driving game of all time. It would be amazing to have on Dreamcast though now that you say it I'd like a Gamecube version even more.
The GTA 3 soundtrack is underappreciated. I might not have found Triumph by Wu Tang Clan without this game.
I wish they would have a go at porting virtua fighter 4 to the dreamcast
This is absolutely incredible and I can't wait to see how much improvement they can do for this game
Gta vice city😮
They said they're aiming to make it 100% perfect which is awesome news.
Incidentally, the resetting radio issue was also present in the Dreamcast port of GTA2.
Was it I never played that version I know the Gameboy advance version was the worst
@@garrysmith1029 Yep, the radio issue made GTA2 pretty much unplayable on Dreamcast because of how annoying it got. Literally every time you exit and enter a vehicle, the radio station audio would reset and start again, which - in a game that's entirely revolving around stealing cars all the time - is *infuriating*. The worst one you could get was that one Japanese station, the DJ of which screams like a maniac in the beginning of the audio track. Imagine hearing THAT every time you leave the car and get back into it. Every. Single. Time. This is such a shame, because all the other aspects of this port are top-notch, the game plays and looks exactly like its PC counterpart. But the only way to enjoy it on the Dreamcast is to play with music / sound turned off.
@@Silver_Warden that reminds me when I played GTA lcs on PS2 the radio would repeat when leaving and entering the car especially in game news
Idk this one feels more deliberate-intentional. Quite literally, Rockstar Games snagged a deal with Sony for a timed exclusive release of GTA 3 as long as they could utilize the new hardware, months after Sega announced discontinuation of future game systems and just as Microsoft announced shipping for the o.g. Xbox. The sixth gen could’ve been different had either Sega or Microsoft got their hands on GTA 3.
I feel like Rockstar couldn't have done it back in the day. Mainly cause there's deadlines for games like this, and this is really only possible by making heavy cuts to the quality and using tricks that we only know after years of Dreamcast development. Some limits like audio compression, image compression, and loading from disc have a capped limit of what you can actually do.
Wow it even looks like it was carefully crafted to look like it was always on dream cast lol
Really impressive... Actually looks pretty smooth to me
20 fps only
@@chevalierkraken So about as performant as the PS2.
@@LobotomyDC no, PS2 is 27 FPS average with motion blur active (with motion blur, the framerate drop to average 17/18 on Dreamcast). oh, and the game crash on CD because Dreamcash drive is too slow to run the game properly. So it's not running really on real hardware
@@chevalierkraken definitely not 27fps avg. Your memory is inaccurate. Game runs like shit on ps2.
@@LobotomyDC their is framerate test on youtube you know
Turn Motion blur off to eliminate the ghosting.
It's only the opening cutscene that's the big problem.
I'd love to get any of the Driver games on the Dreamcast.
This is an Alpha build, expect improvements in 2025 per the team who made this possible. I am using a CD-ROM and I have been playing it without any serious issues.
We need Super Monkey Ball for Dreamcast
sega naomi was only thing close to that
@@MrNintendokid45 It has to be possible
I've always seen this as a Dreamcast game
Should be the easiest port ever
Now that would be awesome and very possible.
Scud race would be the best choice for a future port
Nice choice!
insane. this is dreamcast ??? i had a pentium 2 (333mhz) back then with only 64 megs or ram and this was not even possible to run on that machine. how on earth did they manage this on a dreamcast
Spikeout and Slashout for the Dreamcast, I believe it was a Naomi game so it would've been easy to port over like they did all the other ones. Shame we only had the original Xbox Spikeout until it was on one of the newer Yakuza titles
You should check out the Doom64 port to Dreamcast - it's stunning.
Doom 64 is awesome, but hearing that it's on Dreamcast doesn't surprise me.
Check out the SegaGuys latest video - it's a bit more than just a port
Windows gave me a warning for a Trojan for something called "Sabsik" coming from the Dreamcast sdk program, looked it up and it says it's not good, am I alright to ignore that?
Man, framerate not is too good because this game not are finished. This game will be finished here in 2025.
Sega dreamcast means?
perfection.
the original max payne would look good on the dreamcast
Silent Hill 2, Resident evil 4, Metal gear solid 2, Grand theft auto vice city, San Andreas. I think San Andreas should be literally impossible though.
San Andreas is too heavy. It really pushed the limits of PS2. Vice city should be technically possible
San Andreas is not impossible. Sega does what the others don't, it'll do SA just fine with some optimization. Same goes for all the other games that you mentioned.
@@Alexander-ix2jp Isn't San Andreas a few GB in size?
@@John-nb6ep Yeah, just like Resident Evil 2 is two 700MB CDs on Psx, which then got squeezed onto a single 64MB N64 cartridge. Where there is a will there is a way.
@@Alexander-ix2jp At least they can stop porting lazy 16 bit games to the Dreamcast or shoot em ups. It's an insult to what the console is capable of.
This is amazing. Amazing is pretty good, but you know what would be even better? If someone could get the 2 Dungeons & Dragons arcade games running on the Dreamcast.
You mean the beat em ups? Those are on the Saturn so it seems like it would be possible.
Dreamcast is slowly getting a good game library
It always had a great library my friend , its getting even better ;)
L take
DC already have a great library and GTA3 doesnt count its an unofficial game lol
A bit late i would say lol.
This is amazing. Now if they can port San Andreas and Vice City to the Dreamcast, that would be AWESOME!!!! 😎👍
I'd love to see GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas, Scud Race, Virtua Fighter 4, Dead or Alive 3, Ninja Gaiden, Soul Calibur 2 & 3, Street Fighter EX 3, Tekken Tag Tournament, Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2, Billy Hatcher & The Giant Egg, Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2, Resident Evil 4, Daytona USA 2, & Jet Set Radio Future on the Dreamcast
It's not even finished yet
will it work on emulator / android ?
Not very well
@@ABitMoreJordan
I finished GTA5 :P
Its funny alittle...Rockstar/take2 have control over the internet archive...their not allowing certain mods to be uploaded
They're
It plays on my old cell phone
Mind uploading a video of it on your 1999 cell phone?
The Android version is funny, it runs great on the Galaxy S2, but the Xperia Play (the so called "gaming phone") struggled to maintain 30 fps at the time.
Newer Android versions straight up refuse to launch it despite it being perfectly functional on a rooted Android 14 device for some reason.
This is pretty cool and very interesting. I hope they can complete the emulation.
NO emulation it's native pc port to dreamcast
People ask: "How is it possible?" As if the Dreamcast was a 32-BIT machine or so. This game was originally developed for Dreamcast itself, was cancelled duty its discontinuation from the console market. Why this idiot question persist? Resident evil 2 was ported to a cartridge-based console, the N64, then, people ask: how GT3 on Dreamcast is possible? I'm done.
Ah, so the N64 Resi 2 port was so great it diminishes anything else. Gotcha.
avg. fps is 15, drops under 10 and not running from CD, fakeing with SD ..
Give it some more time and the framerate will stabilize.
@@Alexander-ix2jp The DC CPU is 4 times slower than the PS2 CPU. The DC GPU is 5 to 10 times slower than the PS2 GPU. GD ROM is 5 times slower than PS2 DVD.
But the framerate is stabilizing.
They have lowered the polycount of some models and about 2-3 times lowered the draw distance. They use fake SD instead of super slow GD ROM.
But the framerate is stabilizing.
@@gurujoe75 they lowered it because they were based on the pc port lmaoo and still the pc version still has more environmental objects than the ps2
@@lex_4242 just shut up.
Sd (serial port) is slower than CD-Rom, kid.
ua-cam.com/video/unqcIMeqkG8/v-deo.html - This is the PS2 version, 480p, widescreen, up to 60 fps. No one has seen GTA3 on real DC HW, because there is no such version. From CD it runs at a horrible 5-15 fps with 5 times reduced draw distance.
Stop droning on about "PC graphics on DC" when PS2 displays 100% polygons with full effects and 200% faster.
You must be commenting on the wrong video because at no point did I drone on about PC graphics
@@ABitMoreJordanIt's just a PS2 Fan trying to move the goalpost, trying to start something. Ignore them.
"Stop droning on about "PC Graphics on DC" when PS2 displays 100% polygons with full effects and 200% faster"
PS2 has 50% of polygons because it's an older build that was never updated with later re-releases. PC was picked because, it's code was reverse engineered, and it's a later build. As for the polygons, this showcases the differences in PS2 and the current Dreamcast/PC build
ua-cam.com/video/1TckwhzZxgQ/v-deo.html
@@hunterkrovac cope kid.
No one has seen GTA3 for real DC HW, because it doesn't exist. From CD it runs disastrously, in an unusable way. From SD the fake runs at half the speed of the PS2 and has a greatly reduced draw distance.
Good morning !
@@gurujoe75Can't tell if you're baiting or you're actually that dumb... 😒
Impressive but it defeats the purpose of playing in older consoles IMO
I still have a PS2 GBA & ps1&ps2 cds & gba cartriges
Even though i could play those games in a emulador, i choose the old console to relive those days i spent playing with my friends not to make my old console a emulator itself
This isn't emulation. Or a final build.
And for many of us, nostalgia also includes the games we only wished we could play.
Not emulation fully native port and of the pc version not the ps2 so got nothing to do with the ps2 this is the pc version and newer then the ps2 version need the new pc stream version to play this pretty much tells you .. Got nothing to do with anything your talking about.. You know right gta 3 was born on the dreamcast where it was first made
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 i know its not emulator
What i meant is using the old console the same way you'd use your PC to play any game you want by emulator
@@IanMicheal did you read my comment?
I know its not emulator but if you start play any game on old consoles its starts to feel like you have an emulator machine/pc
I play old consoles for the nostalgia ( in my case is the PS2 & GBA)
Only play the games native of those consoles again because of the nostalgia
If i want to play games from other consoles I then yes play on an emulator..... after buying the OG version of course 😉.. i dont condone piracy 😜
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 whats with the passive agressiveness dude
I jus gave my opinion
I said it eas impressive it just for me defeats the purpose of having an old hardware
It was always possible, but I prefer the PC version. The Dreamcast version is a waste of time.
The base of the Dreamcast version is the PC Version.
@hunterkrovac Except with the PC version, I can actually mod the game.
@@schooltrashers And yet you fail to see much like PC, Dreamcast is also using Windows as it's Kernel.
I imagine you saying this to the waitress in Denny's.
@@ABitMoreJordan I don't have to worry about that. I got a hot redhead girlfriend.
It’s interesting but for actually playing it’s probably better to do it on a PS2.
For now. It is just an alpha.
And for the novelty of how impressive it is, it's worth the experience.
Give it some more time and it'll further surpass the ps2 version.
It's better to play it on Xbox or PC, the PS2 version is still half the frame rate of the PC version, has the horrendous motion blur, and has a slight input lag that, while not rendering the game "unplayable" is still enough to notice the delay from button presses to character movements.
This port is definitely one mostly for the diehards of the GTA fandom than anything though, for just playing the game, the PC or Xbox versions will definitely be the better option. Although it's a tremendous effort on the port makers' part regardless.
@@Rihcterwilker Unless it somehow gets ported to the PS1, then the novelty isnt quite there yet imo. Ports of games such as Doom or Rayman 2 for example had that novelty because they are like the same game but at the same time they arent with a lot of subtle changes to both graphics and level design which makes it a different experience worth playing it despite being inferior or superior, depending each one.
GTA 3 DC, not so much besides the hypotetical nostalgia we could had if the game came out in that era.
@@Alexander-ix2jp I doubt it. Is already pushing it too much.
ua-cam.com/video/r2FDKlPMSgY/v-deo.html - zero to 5 fps .. stop posting fake videos.
@@gurujoe75 you okay dude?
@@ABitMoreJordan 0-5 fps. Denial kid. 0-5fps .. You are naive to think that 0 fps will become 20fps. The dev team is plainly lying with fake videos.
@@gurujoe75take your meds kid
@@gurujoe75Quit moving the goalpost and get back on your PS5.
ua-cam.com/video/3Zrqmu7IXQk/v-deo.html .. 0-5fps, so unusable.
DreamShell is a terrible way to play Dreamcast games.
This night be an ALT Account of the same troll.
@@ABitMoreJordan oh .. and what is better .. CDR .. that is MUCH much worse, look for videos.
@@hunterkrovac 100%
@@jansimko2755They just pushed an update that improves CD-R streaming today. From one of the devs, Ian Michaels. Same one who managed to import a Deadpool model from the Xbox 360 into the Dreamcast. Sooo can't use that excuse anymore.