Opponents, supporters of affirmative action face off
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- With the Supreme Court poised to decide two cases challenging the use of race as a consideration in college and university admissions, correspondent Rita Braver talks with the man responsible for launching multiple cases against affirmative action in higher education, as well as with advocates for and against maintaining the policy.
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your use of the term Latinx amuses me; this term is endorsed by no one except the social justice warriors
You sound like being a social justice warrior is a bad thing lol
@@mandyinseattle very much so
virtue signaling bungholes the lot of them
@@mandyinseattle Because it is.
@mandyinseattle just because you call yourself something doesn't make it true the “Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea” 🇰🇵isn't what it calls itself. “Social justice warriors”are the same way tyrants dressed as civil rights people. Whenever you get a speaker that criticizes them at a campus they form a mob smash stuff, set fires, and hurt people. SJWs are brainwashed the same way communists and fascists are.
I HATE that term too, it’s ridiculous and who in earth came up with it? No Hispanic that I know of identifies as an X. So gross to categorize millions upon millions of people with an X. Can’t they say “Latinos” at least?
Did she seriously use the label "LatinX?!". Discrimination is against the law.This will be overturned because of that.
it wont. african americans quality of education is way lower than whites and asians.
Using the word "latinx" should be a major felony
i’m not sure why they don’t say hispanic lol
@@rafangillebecause Latino does not mean the same thing as Hispanic
@@rafangille that is because Hispanic generally refers to a culture, not a race. So you can be white, black, Asian and be Hispanic but generally, when people are referring to someone who is Latino, they are referring to a person who is a part of the indigenous group of peoples, indigenous to the land of South America and Mexico.
Wasn't there a man who once said that "we should judge people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin"? It's too bad we don't hold those same sentiments these days.
I came here to say the same thing. ""I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Funny how people like Mitchell Crusto pick and choose when they actually celebrate that idea.
And we don't, especially in this country, which is why affirmative action is still needed. Have you looked around lately and seen the racism and open hostility?
@@kwebster62 Did you forget that the wise man who uttered that statement and hope was assassinated by a white racist? A little inconvenient to the narrative, isn't it?
He didn’t really mean it. He meant it when he perceived it helped blacks. But his morals were not consistent as we now know.
"We" as in America have never just "judged people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin," where have you been?? 🙄
The entire application process tries to funnel out undesirable students. If college applications were fair they would judge the students solely on academics. There would be no need to have extra curriculars, volunteer work, jobs/ internships, a sad background story, etc.
Two wrongs do not make a right. BOTH race based admissions and legacy admissions should not be permitted. Merit should be the ONLY factor when admission is considered. I say this as someone who has been working as a high school teacher for the last nine years.
What many people miss is that colleges want MORE that just academics. That's only one criteria and for good reason! Colleges know DIVERSITY in multiple aspects are their strengths.
@@MPR2 ... Well said. Thank you.
How about this racist policy is retired forever?
@@Smoothie--oy8ri ideally yes but there is a difference between AA and legacies. AA violates the Civil Rights Act and is unconstitutional while legacies aren't from my understanding.
When I lived in Berkeley I often heard Asian Americans complain that their community was not properly represented at the University even though their scores were much higher than those of other minorities. Their point: based on grades alone, Asian Americans would have made up 30% (or more) of those accepted into college, excluding Blacks and Latinos.
I'm ok with that. Based on performance
Berkeley is a state school. Gratz vs Bollinger was decided decades years ago so affirmative action can't be the excuse now. I hope the plaintiffs suing Harvard studied up on that decision because the outcome wasn't what people expected.
It’s very intentionally. The plaintiff want Asian & Latin numbers to go up and white and numbers go down. This hurts Blacks the most which is unfortunate bc this legislation was designed to help them. The Asians are disgusting
Interesting seeing as how the three groups of people that benefit from affirmative action the most are all white. Group number one to benefit from affirmative action are white women, followed by gay white men, and were going to end that list with disabled white people. So why are black and Latino people even on the table when the greatest benefactors of affirmative action are white?!
Then tell the black and hispanic to study as hard as the asian.
it has hurt asians like me… Schools that i apply are all not reached schools but safety schools and my classmates who had lower SAT score and didn’t even have any portfolio for whatever… yet they entered… Racial Preferences are definitely a thing…
College admission should be based on MERIT. Not things we have no control over. Race/ethnicity should be removed from any application.
Said like a white person
Did she seriously use the label "LatinX?!"
The mainstream media takes their marching orders from social justice warriors and their special interest groups, so therefore that's what you get.
Yep. And that term is debated in the Latino/Latina/LatinX community (whatever they want to call it in 2023)
Yes and it makes sense because Latino is a masculine word and Latina is a feminine word so Latinx is a term used to describe both of them.
@@danilcx6648 That’s just stupid. Latino men or Latino women is too hard to say? Oh wait I thought we were living in a day and age where gender supposedly doesn’t exist?
@@danilcx6648 as a Latino I can tell you that it's offensive, and no one that I know who's also Latino or Latina find it to be inclusive.
Why don't we have affirmative action for Basketball teams and NBA?
One of the many contradictory reasons affirmative action is unworkable
Affirmative action was a great plan when it was first introduced. If minorities or women were precluded from jobs, schools or other activities, this policy sought to correct the problem. However, now it is being abused. Affirmative action has created a level playing field but now they want to eliminate hurdles for the groups it protects while making it nearly impossible for other groups to get into these prestigious colleges. It is beyond embarrassing that the admissions director admitted how low the scores could be for minority students while Asian students with perfect scores would be turned away. I hope the supreme court eliminates these lower standards and forces Harvard to pay punitive damages to students who richly deserved a welcome letter.
When Leftist 's feel the Base of JFK Democrats coming in 2024 to take our Party back .They will go turn coat to save there Political re-election. Taking down Leftism is
to grow the base of Conservative Dems. as We are and Were. Hear Thomas Sowell's lecture on the Origins of WOKE, 1995. Class dismissed.
No. It wasn't. And it didn't. I'd like to mention that 85% of young black males cannot read or write at an adult level, even while in college. Black people are failing in schools they should never have been accepted to. College was once a place for the exceptionally bright. This is no longer the case. Because of affirmative action. It harms all of us.
NO MORE SCHOLARSHIPS BASED ON GENDER THEN BECAUSE THAT IS SEXIST.
Discrimination is against the law.
This will be overturned because of that
How about this racist policy is retired forever?
Then why was it ever enacted in the first place?
@@ronlacker326 You really aren't doing people a favor by holding them to lower standards
60 years is enough
@@dpharr100 Okay racist
Last time I checked it's not 1960
Yet racism runs rampant.
Regarding your piece on Affirmative Action, you referred to people of Hispanic background as Latinx. We are Latino! What's disappointing is that you know this b/c you've used this correct term, Latino, before!
Hispanic can be Latino, but the terms are mot interchangeable and many who identify as Hispanic don't also identify as Latino.
Latinx is seems wrong all around..
What happened to using the term "Hispanic" always? When I was in my early 20s, I was in the Air Force stationed at a clinic in Germany. A new guy was assigned and one day I innocently asked him if he was Mexican. He told me that "Mexican" is a racist term and that he was Hispanic. So I started using the term Hispanic. That was over 30 years ago and I've used Hispanic ever since. Hispanic is a pretty word but now it's being replaced by Latino.
Some Latinos prefer Latinx. You don't speak for everyone
@@TheSouthIsHot Hispanic denotes the person has a heritage or cultural attachment to places that were once apart of Spain (Hispania). The problem starts there. Alot of countries were also colonized by Portugal and other nations, the people from those countries (ie Brazil) naturally don't identify with Spain (speak different languages, culture etc) So they use the term Latino to refer to their different, yet minor similarities to Spain (Latin). Both exist at the same time, but as you pointed out it seems one is more dominantly used to point of possibly replacing the other.
@@lostwanderer6649 OK, so those with Portuguese ancestry call themselves Latino and those with Spanish ancestry call themselves Hispanic but in the US they are now collectively calling themselves Latino? Yet in the US, people who live here who came from Mexico on down to the tip of South America speak Spanish. I've only met one person in the US who spoke Portuguese and he was visiting from Brazil. So I don't understand why they are all calling themselves Latino. I have always liked that word Hispanic and now I can't use it anymore?
Listen closely to affirmitive action supporters and you'll understand that they were never about equal rights nor civil rights. Their language is the language of guilt, victim-hood and power. The Chinese woman from harvard, Chelsey Wong, feels guilty and conflicted about the issue because it's pinning one set of minorities against another set of minorities when they should all be uniting against the "bad, white men". Does this Asian woman know that her fellow supporters thinks that she shouldn't be there. After all, Asians are over-represented. Think on that. Are Jews over-represented in finance? African Americans in football and basketball? Whites in hockey? Where does it start and when does it end? To say that one group of people is over-represented is to say that one group is under-represented which implies a quota. Even worse, it creates a cast system where your opportunities is dependent upon the proportionality of your assigned population. People, this is not America, and it's certainly not the American dream. Unlike one of the comments below, America is not great because it is progressive. America is great because of its Constitution. If your education hasn't been one serious case of indoctrination, you'd understand this. This notion that if grades only mattered then Asians would gain more entries is yet another typical stereotype as if Asians do not involve themselves in the arts or in their communities. Obviously, people who spew this kind of garbage do not know Asians nor have they been intellectually curious enough to go to Asia. Had they been, they would see that Asians come in all stripes and colors.
To Chelsey Wong, you are the stereotypical Asian painted by the ignorant, popular culture at large. You are a pushover, weak and timid. You would sacrifice your child's future all so that you can assuage your imposed guilt. According to Harvard's so-called "holistic approach", you should've been one of the ones rejected seeing as how Harvard has stereotyped Asians. If you're so guilt-ridden, give up your seat instead of taking it from those you have deemed has more right to it than you.
As an Asian Harvard alum, I disagree with Chelsey Wong in that there are other ways of correcting for inequalities in opportunity, such as socioeconomic background. There are also ways to welcome different backgrounds, perspectives, and skills into the school that don't use the race tick box, such as the personal statement. An affluent Nigerian immigrant is going to have better opportunities than a poor rural white farmer, so the category of race seems odd to include as a direct factor. I don't want people to see my name or race and immediately think that I'm just another "textureless math grind," as a certain someone at MIT put it. I reviewed my application after I got in. They gave me a low personality score despite acknowledging my wide intellectual and artistic interests, my genuine love of learning, my completion of a master's level curriculum, and my low income background. There was a note that my kind was likely to have personality issues, and that worry was assuaged only after my alumni interview came in. The admissions process is not at all transparent, and we don't know how race is applied, but just from what we know, there are aspects of it to which I am opposed. Unfortunately, many of the Asian culture clubs are headed by individuals who support the current admissions process, and while they are entitled to have and fight for their opinions, they make statements on behalf of the whole organization and make it difficult for people like me to express our opinions.
I understand both sides of the argument, but I'm leaning towards opposing affirmative action. For one thing I think it harms black people in the long run by leading to the perception that they didn't genuinely earn their academic accomplishments.
Your rationale is foolish. Everyone that’s not a white man benefits from affirmative action with Black folks benefiting the LEAST!
As someone of Latin descent I’m am offended that your reporter kept referring to us as Latinx there is no such thing as that. When referring to people of Latin descent please just say Latinos not Latinx
I live near Miami. I have never heard of any of the Hispanics refer themselves as Latin X. Must be a white liberal thing.
Ok, Spixican.
Umm, I hate to break it to you but Latinx is real and not going away. But that doesn't mean it has to be YOUR identity, just that of others so respect their wishes as they respect yours.
"Latinx" is up there with "pregnant people."
@MPR2 Can't Latine be the gender neutral word? That would be more grammatically correct with Spanish.
I love how people are calling out her using the term “LatinX” LOL!
Yes because it's stupid. It's a term that sycophant white people like Joe Biden use.
"LatinX" is not a word. Go to ANY Spanish speaking country and try to use that word, people will look at you with confused faces. It it does not exist in the Spanish speaking world. The word "Latino" can mean either male or gender ambiguous depending on the context, while "Latina" is exclusively applied to women. The only people who use "LatinX" are people who do not speak Spanish.
you latinx people are funny
Latinx is a racial slur created by democrats to dehumanize them and take away there masculine/feminine language. All hail the almighty transexual.
I never understood the argument that because segregation in the South happened decades ago, it justifies discrimination today. If you opposed discrimination in the past but support discrimination today in the form of AA, it really reveals that people stand for nothing.
@@yutg-uk1xk this is an oversimplification of history and generalization of people. The reality is not all black people are underprivileged. And many white and Asian people are underprivileged. So race as a metric isn't an accurate criteria for determining who deserves an extra boost. What happened primarily in the South that has ended half a century ago isn't an excuse.
Colleges should be representative of society. America is not 70% white. To expect schools to have that composition would be social engineering. I would be open to an alternative to affirmative action…instead of a boost in admissions why not invest with free high quality tutoring and extracurricular programs in communities where affirmative action is used. I’d imagine you would be opposed to that too though…why not just say the you don’t think minorities or people descended from non white immigrants deserve freedom to pursue a great life. That’s really what this comes down to
@@vanessagamino6826 I would have no problem if we invested more in poor areas for tutoring as long as poor people of all races have access to it. As for your comment about colleges needing to reflect the USA demographics, I don't agree. The number one priority needs to be academic merit.
@@yutg-uk1xk A better approach to mending foundational weaknesses would be improving the quality of education from K-12. This would allow all students regardless of race to have access to better education and resources that will help them in being competitive in college applications. Affirmative action doesn't "mend" the weaknesses, but rather gives them scapegoats and worsens them as many who are not qualified may end up being demotivated or drop out due to the rigorous academic environment.
The interesting thing about Affirmative Action is that it has helped white women more than any other group, especially in academic and workplace settings.
Before seeing your comment, I too said this. I included sources, as well. It is unfortunate that a news program would push the false narrative that AA is just about race. But the host and reporter are both white women, so that probably has something to do with it.
Seriously. As a white guy I definitely would rather them ban women from the workplace if I got to pick
Justice Thomas not fan of affirmative action but open doors for him.
Sorry, but you lost me when you used the term “Latinx.” there is no such thing. CBS, you should be ashamed of yourself.
If a black student want to get into top schools in the US, then they should study as hard as others that got into the school without affirmative action.
Tell me you don't understand AA without saying you don't understand AA.
@@SoupBone-bp1qk HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
A large problem is that not all public schools are equal. They are rich, poor, or middle class depending on the local tax base and wealthier school districts can afford better educated teachers and much nicer campuses and resources for their kids. So yes, affirmative action is still needed because some kids have the ability to attend the best colleges, but never will simply because their school systems were lacking.
So Edward Blum is asking that the admissions process for college is made, not only colorblind, but class-blind, as if all candidates are coming from equally good schools, even though there are actually huge disparities in the quality of grade school and high school education in the United States.
Thanks for ignoring the vast swaths of predominantly white rural areas. Affirmative action discriminates against poor whites.
@@jadapinkett1656 no it doesn’t discriminate against poor whites because poor whites aren’t discriminated against because of the color of their skin, and if they work hard the American Dream of climbing the social and financial ladder exists for poor whites. I grew up around poor whites and was on the borderline myself. Blacks and other minorities have historical barriers to advancement that poor whites don’t have. I’ve seen it with my own eyes and grew up in the Deep South and studied this history of oppression, slavery, Jim Crow laws enacted right after Reconstruction ended in the 1870’s, lasting in effect until the 1970’s. *Yes poor whites never had to deal with any of it.* And the racism that begun with slavery in the 1600’s still exists today. It’s obvious.
Baltimore schools gets 35K per pupil (most in country) and kids still can’t spell… money is not the issue. It’s culture and parents
@@kaseyc5078 I don’t believe your stats and you sound like a segregationist of old who tried to claim separate but equal was just fine and that poor schools with no heat, caved-in ceilings, poorly educated teachers were just as good as white schools that had plenty of resources and everything else better. Your argument has been disproven many times. Maybe go read the Brown vs Board of Education rulings because it shows empirically that money and resources DO matter, but nice try.
No one should get a free ride based on their ethnicity, it should be based on effort
actually, not effort....on results
@@blackrocks8413Effort is a better metric.
@@jadapinkett1656Nah, because if someone puts in all the effort but never shows good results or progress, then why should they be rewarded over someone who has? Sure, we can acknowledge their efforts, but don’t reward failure, encourage progress.
The Supreme Court ended Affirmative Action this morning in a 6 to 3 decision.
There are colleges where all you have to do is keep paying and they'll give you a degree. One guy graduated with a 0.02 GPA. Any company that hires this guy may never hire another graduate from that college.
I was that guy. It was .0295. That rounds up to .03. Get your facts straight smart guy
Nah. Not “Any company that hires this guy may never hire another graduate from that college.” /
that's impossible to do at an ABET accredited university/degree program
A lot of affirmative action people never finish their degree anyway. they also get stipends and rebates and other people don't.
I saw a UA-camr, (affirmative action guy), said he quiet collage and took his stipend and rebate and bought a box truck.
Oh and the constitution bans racial discrimination for public institutions
50 plus years ago i can see the theory behind it...we have had minorties elected to every office from town council to president...why do we still need affirmative action??
Why can't applicants be assigned a number and the name and address be hidden like many hiring processes are handled. This way only the merits of the applicant are reviewed.
Would be nice...
Real life doesn't go that way
If all school districts in the United States had exactly the same funding and quality of teachers, so the pool of applicants all had the same chance at a quality education, then I’d say affirmative action is not needed, but that’s not reality.
@@susannpatton2893 This exactly is how admissions are processed in India because of the caste system. Admissions officers do not see anything other than the roll-number of the applicant and their academic record. This is the only way to ensure fairness.
@@lewstone5430For some reason people tend to forget that not every school is made equal, and that some schools are objectively worse than others.
Can anyone explain to me how Clarence Thomas can be a white supremacist? That last comment really boggled my mind.
Yes, I'm still trying to make it make sense.🤔 When Whites are discriminated against, it's Affirmative Action. When Whites push back against being discriminated against, it's White Supremacy.
He pretends racism doesn’t exist clearly.
Ditto what RocStarr913 wrote, and I would add that like Crusto, Thomas benefitted from Affirmative Action in the early 1970s.
Self hatred and a desire to prove to white ppl that he is "one of the good ones." PBS did a doc explaining that during college he was hanging out with socially aware and militant Black students. Then he felt like he was being seen as less worth as a Black student, so he blamed it on Affirmative Action and not racism. This led him to hate being Black even more because he saw it as a deficit he couldn't get around.
@RocStarr913 That's not what a white supremacist is. You leftists are void of rationality.
Get rid of Legacy Admissions!!!
Why not both?
@@jadapinkett1656 That should be the goal.
America is fixing itself…finally
Respect for the rights of others is a blessing.
How about this racist policy is retired forever?
You’re the real racist
6:53 Chelsea already attends Harvard. If she got denied admissions, I doubt she would have the same opinion. That was pointless to interview her.
It is important to get diverse input. Especially when this is pivoted from the view point of Asian Americans who were denied. It would be extremely bias if this was all we heard from. You may not like it, but her take is necessary.
Awesome, equality is equality.
If we are going to apply affirmative action to college admissions, then we should apply it to sports as well. How many Hispanics and Orientals are playing in the NBA or NFL?
That doesn't make sense at all. If you applied affirmative to the NBA or NFL, then teams would suck. Because consequences would happen for being discriminative. That isn't the case for education and school. I honestly thought Affirmative Action should of been removed, but now that this rise of White Nationalism, I am not too sure. Trump has already have a reputation for discriminating against minorities who inquire about his property. White Nationalism believes in dividing race. In the end I really don't care, the truth will be revealed when it comes to racism and discrimination one way or another in due time with technology and statistics.
Asian American is the preferred nomenclature dude.
@@anthonygordon9483 your response makes ZERO sense
@@anthonygordon9483TDS
Affirmative Action ! .... sounds so much nicer than: Compensating For Low Intelligence.
If you don't support race based admissions, then ask yourself why isn't LEGACY ADMISSIONS illegal???
Great point!!!
How about this racist policy is retired forever? and you are taking about "Nepotism" which is seen all over LA County and it is forbidden.
@@arktos298 😂😂😂😂 you're funny. Nepotism is pretty prevalent in your neck of the woods
Legacy admissions don't actually violate the laws. AA violates the Civil Rights Act. So, it's a false equivalency to compare the two.
@@fedorburns8661 You can easily argue that legacy admissions violates the 14th Amendment and/or that it has a disparate impact on certain minority groups and is therefore discriminatory.
How about this racist policy is retired forever?
Admissions should be no different than the basketball team….only the best need apply. Enabling only weakens and discriminates against the best.
Exactly. Is Affirmative Action applied to sports? No. I wonder why...
Affirmative Action is applied to sports. Why is the Michigan State basketball coaches son on the team? He isn't even Division III caliber let alone one of the top programs in college basketball.
Sports are simply not nearly as much a necessity in life as education, so that’s a fallacious argument. It is a fact that black and Latino people often have to work way harder to succeed than white people or even Asians.
@@RocStarr913 How is that a fact? Prove it.
@@RocStarr913 if anything, colleges being more necessary means college admissions should be more meritorious than sports. I don't know about you but I want to best to be my surgeon.
Latin-X earned y'all a thumbs down on this one👎👎👎
Thank you! I don't know where that stupid term came from but we are Latinos. Always will be. I cringed the 3Xs I heard that term used today.
agreed! It is a term used by SJWs to make them feel better about themselves for whatever reason
Oh calm down, snowflake
@@sparkle11231 Do you also deny Latinas?
I am an old woman who has always been against affirmative action. It is stupid to allow a person having poor high school grades enroll in college based on skin color.
Good thing it doesn’t do that… You have to have the same qualifications any one else does.
Just use common sense! What is it that colleges care about more than race, or even your education honestly? Money! So they need people to not only get into the college but finish as well. They are not letting random people with bad grades get in because they are not white. 🤦🏽♂️
The system is allowing this affirmative action to continue so the people in charge would not have to deal with how poorly the schools in the inner cities are doing.
@armond9871 So there is absolutely no point to AA aside from discriminating against whites and Asians?
@@jadapinkett1656 Yep, pretty much so.
Lets overturn it, but lets be honest this will have a minimal effect on anything. The root to why more people are complaining now is that "overqualified" college applicants are a dime a dozen and are becoming more common. A 4.4+ GPA isn't even that rare or impressive anymore after grade inflation and students are hit with that cold hard truth "they aren't special" when they get their rejection letters.
So true, and because of this white and Asian applicants are fighting to gain a slight edge back in admissions. There are only so many seats at elite colleges, hence why this is such an issue.
Yes, but why even strive to be special or outstanding as a student when you can just stroll your way into an elite college by showing off your skin color?
Love CBS! Thanks for this coverage ❤
With the whole "Representation Movement" nowadays we have to be careful about treating American citizens of different ethnic groups as 'completely different species' because we are one nation of citizens. If we try to make everything race based it will lead us back to where we came from (segregation/division).
Bloom is the poster boy for privilege and life in a bubble.
Self-righteous, protected, progressive white women are the ones in a bubble. You're the worst.
Agree. He is. That is not self-aware enough to understand that, is the saddest part of all.
Get rid of legacy students that’s all it takes.
I love how they brought down affirmative action under the guise of being after race only but affirmative action protected ALL women.
Given the situation of our political climate at this time, it is clear to the motivation of this man wanting to eliminate affirmative action. Thanks to it, I was able to move up at my career and demonstrate that the color of my skin had nothing to do with it, but my intelligence, determination and willingness to go the extra mile.
I think the black doctor in the Bakke case, Patrick Chavis, felt the same way.
Yeah keep telling yourself that, mexican.
Just reveals how bad of a student you actually were.
@freespeechordie2252 EEO is racist anti-white discriminatory garbage too. We need a Civil War.
But people in the US are treated differently. It is etched in the laws and soaked with blood in its soil.
Affirmative action is the last institutionally racist law we have on the books. It would be nice to not be treated different in hiring because of my skin color, true equal treatment.
If other minorities dont want to pit Asian Americans against them, they should stand in solidarity with us against this injustice.
Notice he says “trying to”. It seems like education in general has taken a nose dive ( to China’s glee.). Historically blacks going into Ivy League schools were not properly prepped and too often failed and dropped out. Now I hear, the quality of education at the ivy league universities has dropped so badly that the applicant’s previous education may not matter as much. I say make the Ivy League universities exclusively for minorities if that will shut up the “justice warriors”. If you identify as a minority you should qualify. A black, Hispanic, American Indian should be a shoe in. They can get a degree in ________ studies and make big bucks as “justice warriors”.
The high standards of the Ivy League are still in place. Look at the latest rankings. Oh wait, now you’ll claim those rankings are tainted right?
@@lewstone5430They are. Not a single individual at Harvard is intelligent. Just indoctrinated.
I can't wait to see affirmative action to be ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL later this month. I will be celebrating.
what all the controversy is about?...it's against the 14th amendment...end of story and needs to be illegal.
But you do understand affirmative action is to right the wrong of the past.... to level the playing field because equal protection doesn’t extend enough
Equality does not exist in nature or man. Historic Black universities were founded to right a wrong as you say.Enabling only weakens the system and discriminates against the best.
It’s been around for decades and was NEVER supposed to be permanent. The fact is if you had people focus on and appreciate education, affirmative action wouldn’t be needed.
Wasn't Affirmative action used to help white women who felt marginalized though?"🤔
You want to level the playing field by allowing race to be used as a consideration in the admissions process. That’s not leveling the playfield, that’s an inbuilt institutional advantage that benefits some at the expense of others. Why is it that in colleges and universities like Harvard Asians are vastly underrepresented despite academically outperforming their white and minority peers? Let’s have that conversation about affirmative action
@@BluePlanet1 bruh affirmative action is not only used in college admissions but also employment ….and the advantage is to pay reparation to the harm built on slavery and discrimination birthed by this country
Contrary to what they said at the start, it won't be the end of affirmative action until it is eliminated in the workplace. All in all, though, a fairly well balanced piece of news.
The Asian lady clearly Hypocrites Would she stand with it if She was one of the victims?
The only true victims here are Black people. The laws that kept Blacks from attending school or being allowed to learn or be taught to read. The laws that banned Blacks from even entering public libraries or attending ANY college in America were the brainchild of whites. Somehow the new narrative is that this system that kept Blacks out of college came from Blacks and is their fault. And now the Blacks are unfairly taking something from or disadvantaging Whites. This is laughable BS. They have not. White people created and enforced those laws. To keep Blacks subjugated and available for use as cheap labor or war time cannon fodder. Affirmative action is a mild and overdue remedy to mitigate the damage that Centuries of injustice and educational deprivation caused to the Black community. The court should keep affirmative action. Btw MORE should be done to remedy and repair what was stolen from those people. This whole court case ignores true facts and history. Btw I am a White guy JSYK...
Hippocrates? The ancient Greek physician?
They Sunday morning show, why don't you show your calendar on this utube broadcast? I think Thrusday was stop putting crap in our food day? If there is a protest, I want to go to it! I glad you brought the calendar back. I like it a lot. I've been watching since 1979!
Stretch calling it "white supremacist" at the end...
Equal treatment is a program of political favour.
WTF IS LATINX?
BUT IF WE DO THIS FOR RACE THEN THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR GENDER AS WELL WHICH MEANS PROMOTING WOMEN IN LESSER REPRESENTED INDUSTRY IS SEXIST.
#supremecourt
#affirmativeaction
Adversity only makes us stronger
“MUUU LaTiN-x” PLEASE STOP.
Activities of the self-righteous.
Are they going to get rid of HBCU because its not meeting race quotas.
4:24 you know that's a lie. why deny the truth?
LatinX… sigh…. No one refers to themselves as rhat
Private colleges have always had quotas. They select applicants to fulfill the mission of their school. It is not fair, but than again life is not fair. The rich will always be selected over the poor. It isn't about skin color. It is about legacy, and what the college needs. I was better qualified to go to Brown than a student from my school academically, but he was a great hockey player. They wanted him on the team. I didn't have what they valued. I went to Northwestern instead. It all worked out well. Applications for college should not ask about race or religion, but they do. My kids got a scholarship because my husband was born in another country. They selected for first generation born American. Disregarding the fact that I was born here. AI helped us out there. My son got a 4 years of free tuition, because of a glitch in their computer program. Colleges use fake criteria set by the admissions committee that choose stufents based on what they need/want. If your child is bright and well rounded they will get in to a good school. You do not need to go to Harvard to succeed. I went there for summer school. My classes were more challenging at Northwestern. I've got great company Stephen Colbert, Seth Meyers, Julia Louis Dreyfus, Cindy Crawford, Charlton Heston, David Schwimmer to name a few you might have heard of in the Arts.
The last word always goes to the side the journalist or organization is trying to push as the right side.
That pole at the end is very poorly written. The results are not valid. Try again
The ultimate whiners are the biggest benefactors
Put aside the topic at hand. If your education led you or anyone else to use the word ‘latinx’ that’s not education that’s indoctrination.
@susannpatton2893 does not have an opinion.
Somebody hates the shvartsa...a whole lot...
He was accepted into Yale in part because he was black. That is not equality, it’s preferential treatment.
"GIBBS ME DAT!!!"
Please do not say Latin x, please do not force that statement upon Spanish speaking people. It's crazy and insane to call Spanish speaking people an English word, with an English pronunciation of the letter x, for Spanish speaking people...Is the indifference and disrespect sinking in? First I was Chicano, then Hispanic or Latino, worse of all minority, now I'm latin x.....how about American, when will I no longer be a second class American citizen?
So we can add the word "fair" to the words "freedom," "liberty" and "family" to represent exactly the opposite when uttered by CERTAIN folks.
Here is a compromise, just put in place a sunset clause.
Lol. Guaranteed they will rely heavily on Bakke's sunset clause language.
It's proof that Bakke was wrongly decided at the outset. Policies/laws that are legitimately constitutional do not require "sunset clauses."
The NFL needs quotas. Not enough where players. Football was great in the 70s when it was more racially balanced
Sure, then let’s actually equalize admissions eliminate all tuition fees as a barrier to lower income people. But no, they want to keep that so there’s class discrimination for higher education. This anti affirmative action movement isn’t about parity, on the contrary, it’s about retaining class privilege of the rich.
Vijay looks like 1950s indian.
What is Latin X, sounds like a character from Marvel comics.
If you need a law to make you "equal" , than your not.....
The people who are holding the “I am an Asian American and I have a dream too” signs look really old compared to the students who want the affirmative action. 🤔🤔 the majority of them look Chinese too! There’s something strange there fellas
While I strongly believe in a merit based system, the problem with the US education system is there are many bad schools especially in poor neighborhoods. I think to deal with this problem, it has to start from the beginning with making sure that all public schools get sufficient and equal funding regardless of location.
Given that African Americans have been disadvantaged for so many generations because of institutional racism, I would support as a form of reparation, free education for them at all levels of education.
In this global economy, the US cannot afford to waste its human resource and must harness it if the country wants to remain competitive. The education system must be robust at all levels not just for tertiary degrees. It must stop its children from placing behind other countries as shown in international rankings.
The problem with schools in poor neighborhoods isn't the lack of funding. It's because of improper parenting, and the students' bad behavior and lack of work ethic. You can throw all the money in the world at a school but it's the STUDENTS inside the schools who are the reason we have bad schools. And that starts at home with the parents.
@Katrina Witt No entirely true, there are surely bad parents who are poor. But many poor parents have children who are first in their family to go to colleges too.
Of course the government cannot guarantee good parenting. But minimally, there should not be schools that are underfunded with falling apart building etc. We know there are schools like that.
@@GKP999 Falling apart buildings isn't the reason children do poorly at school. A child's brain is a powerhouse of learning, and old buildings won't stop that. A child can easily learn to speak a language simply by listening to those around who are speaking, and an old building has nothing to do with it. Learning begins at home. Children need to be properly parented and taught to behave and work hard. Improper parenting is the reason there are bad schools, not old buildings, not teachers who don't care, not lack of computers in the classroom. Children need proper parenting to excel.
@Katrina Witt you must be joking. You try going to a school that is falling apart. Schools are part of the equation. It is apparent that you are privileged and/ or delusional.
@@GKP999 So now you're getting nasty. I'm not privileged. I grew up in a poor area because my family was poor. I'm White, but nearly all of my neighborhood was Black and the rest were Brown. My entire childhood, I went to schools where nearly all of the students were Black and the rest were Brown. All of the teachers were Black. The principle was Black. My first boss was Black and HER boss was Black. I know what I'm talking about. The problems with schools are children with improper parenting.
go to the different school districts in the suburbs and inner city and ask that question SMDH and then ask Thomas billionaire toy boy it
I think a debate between whiney, flyweight, cristo, and the great Thomas Sowell would be very engaging.
How about this racist policy is retired forever?
Yes, Sowell is willing to be a white supremacist lap dog, so I get why you like him.
You want to completely remove race from the application process? Then you also need to remove the interview and any metric that can determine a persons race such as their name, potentially what areas they live in and other metrics that can allude to what race they are. The entire applications process must change else this is just going back to an era when their wasn’t affirmative action, and that era wasn’t a meritocracy either.
Great ruling
NO MORE ACCEPTANCE BASED ON GENDER THEN BECAUSE THAT IS SEXIST.
The most desperately poor and academically-worthy minorities (African American, Hispanic, Native American) should still receive this aid, but it shouldn't be a blank check based on race alone.
If you are academically-worthy, your race shouldn't be a part of the equation.
@@TheSouthIsHot Often, black and Latino people are overlooked and find themselves having to work way harder.
Katrina Witt and what about poor kids from dilapidated schools with scant resources (like no computers) with teachers, many of whom don’t care about students? Not all high schools are equal so the students don’t have an equal chance from the get-go.
@@RocStarr913 Way harder than WHAT? What evidence do you have that they have to work way harder? If they do have to work way harder, WHY do they have to work way harder?
@@lewstone5430 Why should teachers care about an entire class full of badly parented students? Care starts at home. If the students' parents don't care to teach their own children to behave and work hard, how is an exhausted and frustrated teacher expected to care about 30 individual children? The problem starts at home. Parents make bad students and bad students make bad schools.
Marginalized via K-thriugh 12.
Just identify as black and you are good to go...
For it! A person might not have had the same opportunities, standard of K- through 12. Cheating, for instance, knowing what will be on exams. The smarter person might initially test in a little lower,and once having the education, teachers, books, often, outscore many of the others.
You can't blame the system but point the fingers at their parents
"LatinX" please stop
8:05 💯%
You’re the racist because you know blacks can’t compete on merit.