Hopefully the Raloi will be in the next game. Having them, the Rachni, the Geth, the Yahg and maybe a few new species in the galactic community would be interesting to see.
@@editorrbr2107 That would definitely be cool. Have a split in Batarian politics, some wishing to leave the Hegemony behind, and others doubling down on the Hegemony's beliefs.
well, i doubt we see the Yahgs, they are even stronger and bloodthirsty than the Krogans, i don't think it's in anyone interest that they ever leaved their planet.
Correction on the Raloi: They were mentioned in the Cerberus News updates in ME2 before some of the DLC came out. The Avian flu they mention refers to the H5N1 pandemic which was all the rage at the time in some parts of the world.
I really hope that the Raloi are in the next Mass Effect. Both because I adore birds and love the idea of an avian species, but also, I’m kind of in love with an Asari delegation making second first contact and being like “Hey so… we killed the Reapers”
It would be hilarious if the raloi downgraded themselves a century or more and then everyone is so pissed that they wont help them. Then the raloi would have to develop again. XD
It's worth pointing out that the Asari themselves were roughly at the Raloi's developmental level when the Reapers harvested the Protheans, and there's no reason to think the Reapers didn't know about them. I could see them leaving the Raloi alone, even if they knew about them.
The Asari could count only as high as their toes at the prothean era but the raloi are capable of developing satelites and orbiting them, they are probably at human level in reality or a bit higher.
@@lif6737 What? The technology to detect and communicate with an alien spaceship in the same solar system is not decades away, the Raloi were probably at 1970's technology levels. Humans have been capable of that for generations.
I thought the Turians were simply a different type of tailless lizard people, @@umm-. Their semi-digi-grade legs would seem to give this away, I figured.
Wow, these alien races are fascinating, even if we never saw them at any point, I'd never heard of them until now. You learn something new every day :D
i think the raloi have a chance of surviving, i think the reapers would be more focused on the species actually fighting them than the species that is hiding back on their homeworld, and would probably wait until the spacefaring ones have been dealt with, which would not happen as the reapers are either destroyed, controlled or synthesized before the spacefaring races were defeated, so we might see the raloi in me4.
Also worth noting is that it's stated that a full Reaper harvest takes centuries, so they had plenty of time to handle them after taking care of their priority targets.
"The Virtuals" backstory sounds similar to the ending of another game. Spoiler if you dont want to know, stop reading, but its a horror/scifi game that came out in 2015-2016 I think, the game is Soma. Pretty much their backstory, minus the supernova, happens at the end of Soma.
Man that game was crazy, that ending still mess me up even to this day. I mean just knowing you download a copy of your consciousness into a virtual world while “you” still stuck in another machine on a already dead and uninhabitable planet.
Yeah, I enjoyed playing through Soma, even if it's typically not my kind of game. I like being able to see what I look like, and I can only handle 1st person perspectives for short durations before I start getting a headache. Still, it was interesting...But a bit sad also.
If the virtuals do make an appearance in the next Mass Effect game, I hope they make a Synthetic body for them so they more especially be distinguished from other races, something like what was used in the image of this video
Raloi : hello we are here to join you Everyone else : yay free KFC 🍗 Raloi: On a second thought we are leaving and we aren't going to join you in your death
Yup. The only Virtuals that would survive the Destroy ending would be those who traded bodies with someone and also didn’t get killed in the invasion. Ball park estimate if there was only 400 who traded it could possibly be as low as a dozen survivors to like a hundred.
why would destroy be the only legitimate option. the Control ending leaves the galaxy in something much closer to the status quo, rebuilding mass relays and damage from the war, honoring choices like curing the genophage and creating peace w the Quarians & Geth. Synthesis is probably too weird and abstract to ever be used.
@@mediumvillain that depends from peoples and their beliefs. Many think it's the "legitimate" because that's the only end where Shepard seems to survive. I don't like the idea of Shepard living for millions of years alone in the mind of the reapers, aways from his peoples, i think that would make anyone crazy. And that crazy personn will have a army of thoussands unstoppable giants killer machines. And Shepard playing the "Keeper" of the galaxy sounds a bit dictatorial. I reject the Synthesis because i don't believe in it, to me, organics and syntetics are ways too different to be merged like that. And i don't believe in the IA "lifeform" or even autonome intelligence. A computer that think and feel like a human is a terrifying idea. And i believe orgnanics don't need the syntetics and are perfectly capable to rebuild the mass relays by themselves. We even see them doing exactly that in the destruction end. Genophage can be cured just as well and the Quarians may take generations to adapt to their planet but they will. By themselves, without the Geths. Hence why destruction is my favorite ending.
@@mediumvillain That's really just the way I see it commonly referred to the most . I think it has to do with shepherd's surviving if you have a high enough readiness rating
I think it would be an interesting quest to try and create a cloning facility for the virtual to create organic bodies for them from original tissue samples
I remember that clip! I mostly dismissed it thinking I would run into them in-game at some point. I remember thinking to myself, "Maybe these bird people will be the Known Galaxy's final hope. The Reapers will not go for them because they forcibly made themselves a pre-spacefaring species. A few million of each Citadel species can go into stasis on or inside of their homeworld as a precaution. Within five hundred years (which seems to be the absolute minimum the Reapers go for for each Harvest Cycle to be *absolutely* thorough* the Reapers finally go back to Dark Space or wherever they really go after using the Citadel Mass Relay for the final time that Harvest Cycle we could finally begin the processes of mass awakening everyone who survived their stasis up to that point in time. From there we spend the next roughly 49,000 years to become technologically advanced enough to fight against the Reapers and probably actually successfully win a brute force war against the Reapers.
In the Galactic News, Friendly Nail? I ask because I rarely ever bother listening to Galactic News anywhere in-game. Mostly because I am so focused on doing my Mission.
Holy shit, FINALLY i found a sound clip of the Raloi withdrawing from galactic civilization. Ever since they added that bit of information in the Mass Effect Wiki i wondered where that actually came out. Thanks
I don't know about the Raloi. But the vertuals seem very interesting. As they could with Geth assistance. Creat synthetic bodies to occupy. Rather than swapping with an actual persons body. Becuase if you saved the Geth and Tali's people. The upgraded Geth. Would be smart enough to creat a brain like and sized system. As well as a realistic body based on the tech of EDI's body. Though based on the physical bodies the Vertual's originally had. Which would be way cool. One could even be a member of the new crew that Liara is building. Which would be awesome.
Though this has great ethical implications, they can potentially live forever which is not exactly the natural course of that species. The difference with the geth is that they where accidental, but in this case they where naturally born people. If I where to choose, I would help them with the condition that eventually their physical bodies would cease to function permanently, and I am being kind here.
Love your lore videos man. You always do such a great job. That little F this I'm out song was hilarious! I almost cried laughing so hard. Well done indeed.
Gotta say its exciting to know there are more species out there that can be introduced from WITHIN the milky way. Since shephard saved the galaxy in under a year, the Raloi are probably still around in diminished numbers.
Council: Welcome, friends! You are now part of an amazing galactic community! Raloi: Wow, you are too ki- ...what is that? Council: Oh, er... they're just Reapers. Don't worry too much, we're fighting th- Raloi: Heh heh... Er, no. No, thank you.
I believe if you listen to Liara in her cabin, she has a conversation with Glyph regarding the Raloi. They don’t escape the reaper threat, so their leaders commit self genocide and detonate nuclear weapons across the planet, killing everyone.
@@MrHulthen I’m almost 90% positive this is what I remember. Cool info about the virtual aliens, I don’t recall them in my playthroughs. With the possibility of relays having never been activated before and during the reaper war, it’s possible for many more races to show up in the time up to ME4 and have representatives to the citadel. Possibly another Rachni incident perhaps?
I caught the tail end of that Raloi news segment and was wondering who it was talking about! So glad i found this. I do hope they appear in 4 or to the Andromeda gang
Hold on a minute...how did the Raloi know that the Reapers only target spacefaring races? I don't think this was widely known information by anyone outside of Shepherd's crew. I wonder if they have had contact with the Reapers before?
Yep! Which I figure the Raloi have or had one or more Reaper technologies on their homeworld. The Raloi had an all out civil war against the Indoctrinated and the Non-Indoctrinated. After the Non-Indoctrinated won out they quickly became a spacefaring species. This would explain why the Raloi were mysteriously a spacefaring species yet had literally nothing to fight back in the way of any wars. Even Humanity fought back during the First Contact War. So for the Raloi to suddenly appear on the Galactic Stage yet have nothing to ever fight back against really anyone would mean they recently finished a major conflict of theirs. An all out civil war would be a major conflict for sure.
The virtual sounds really interesting, the fried chickens on the other hand are probably dead come on the reapers wouldn't let them go hell even just one of them could harvest them if their great idea was play dumb hoping for the best.
fun fact about the virtuals: The science behind uploading a mind into a cyber or digital construct is incredibly complicated and so advanced that unless there was some science I missed out on learning about, it wuld make the Virtuals more advanced and smarter than the salarians.
That makes them the most advanced organic species in the galaxy. The geth were the only ones who could do something similar, when Legion uploaded Shepard to the server.
I would suspect that the Reapers actually didn't get around to harvesting the Raloi. They were certainly on the list but since they decided to hide away on their homeworld and not interact with anyone else they were probably very low priority: they weren't a threat, likely had low strategic value and weren't at risk of getting wiped out by anything before the Reapers got around to them.
I think the Reapers might have ignored the Raloy for two reasons: 1: We can assume that the location of their world was not well known since they were the new ones on the Citadel. So most data had to be saved on the Citadel which wasn't captured until the end of the game. 2. The Raloy are most likely a “pre colonisation“ species. So they might have the tech to travel to the Citadel and other mass relays but might be too primitiv to colonise new planets yet. At most, they could have a colony in their own system but even then, they are now isolated. We know that the Reapers love to isolate whole systems and then leaving them alone, knowing that the population can't escape. So even if ME3 takes place for maybe a year, I don't think that the Reapers already wasted their time on a one planet/system species that already was isolated. So to me, it would make sense that we can assume thst the Raloy are most likely still around. Maybe even without an attack
More lore makes me happy since I can't play it right now. Achievement bug which prevents advanced training from being available. On insanity this just makes it unnecessarily hard having a Vanguard without barrier. Two weeks with this bug. Sadface
Right. This is really out there, and probably not possible, but. I really have a feeling that somehow, the virtuals could be the jardaan. I mean, they have a very advanced ship, that much we know, and as they work at software processing levels (like the geth), it's not impossible that they could have somehow studied and reverse engineered or retrofitted a relay for the purpose of getting to the Andromeda galaxy, and then with machinery developed from the initial ship, created the remnant tech that we see. It's a long shot, but it would be cool.
Also the second shadow broker that we know of race wasn’t harvest either it’s mentioned the reapers skipped their planet and went to another colony of the citadel race in the system instead. Kinda weird the Protheans knew of the humans before we left the caves tho you’d think we would of had something on earth if they visited us.
I can't blame the Raloi for isolating themselfs and play primitive when the reapers arrived. They just had developed space travel and would've been Extinguished by the reapers if they joined the galactic comunity.
The Raloi wouldn't have been much help in the short term. At best, they could have provided some ground troops, but the containment suits would have been a liability. In a prolonged reaper war they could have upgraded their industries and provided materiel support and perhaps a handful of ships to the war, but it would have made no difference. Overall, they probably made the right call, but there will likely still be bitterness toward them in a post-war galaxy.
The raloi have a much bigger presence in the original Mass Effect 3 if you install the Spectre Expansion mod and you can even go into orbit around Turvess. This mod paired with Expanded Galaxy Mod will give a diehard Mass Effect fan countless hours of more gameplay and lore immersion. Every star system that was in any of the games of the trilogy will be included, plus locales that have only been mentioned and never put into the game, such as Turvess mentioned earlier and the hanar homeworld of Kahje. If you have the original trilogy on PC, check these mods out and climb up into your ivory tower and start your lost summer of 2021! :-D
People don't know how long 50k years is. The Rallo likely would eventually collectively forget the Reapers entirely after some time, well before the return of the Reapers. Even with our current technology and records there are concerns future people on Earth may forget why we don't settle in the exclusions zones around Chernobyl before it's safe to do so. Considering if Chernobyl happened in 15,000BC it'd still wouldn't be suitable for another 3k years give or take. Many people today probably don't even know humans existed in 15,000BC.
I dont think it would matter. The Raloi know about the reapers, and so they will not be spared as the cycle depends on no one surviving to warn the next group about what's coming
I was aware of the virtuals, they are mentioned in game by scanning a planet. Which planet is escaping me. But I did not catch the Raloi reference! Kinda of a big deal too and it's only over the news. Nice! Loving the cannel so far!
Pretty much the entire franchise is about how the reapers are wrong, even Andromeda was at its core about SAM and Ryder working together allowing them to interface with Jardaan tech and resist the Kett. Even the Jardaan and Angara seemed to be organic-synthetic hybrids to some extent, as only Angara and Ryder can use Jardaan tech.
I knew about the Raloi, but never looked too far into them, but the Virtuals sound very interesting. I hope we see both in the next Mass Effect. I also hope the Raloi get called out for hiding while the rest of the Galaxy fought to save everyone. Are those pictures their Canon appearance, or was that just art that did the job?
What Id like to see in ME4 is a race that just keeps popping up no matter what the reapers had done over the various cycles. That one embarrassing thing they could never overcome but their pride would never allow them to admit. Like if the reason Harbinger was so seemingly angry at Shepard was because every few cycles a new version of Humans show up and throw a monkey wrench into the reaper plan. I know it doesn't fit neatly into the lore but a convergent/atavistic evolutionarily path hidden among the DNA of different species seems fun.
Also reminds me of the rachni tgey were bred to fight by the protheans but they betrayed them and was hunted down and went into hiding. The reapers never noticed their existence and completely missed them. The rachini returned thousands of years later they return and start the rachini wars, the krogans ended and yet again they survive.
I hope we get to see the Raloi And the virtual aliens wouldn't be hard because they don't have physical bodies and use already established aliens as host
I can't blame the Raloi. They'd just started to find out about life beyond their world, probably still hadn't even had the chance to send anyone off-world beyond a few delegates to the Citadel, and in a year learn about the threat of the Reapers. They were, by NO means capable of aiding in the war against them - let alone doing any of the fighting themselves. This was literally the only feasible move they could make. Plus, if they'd heard about how Shepard had been warning everyone else about the coming Reaper invasion and the galaxy's leaders had sat on their hands and done nothing about it, that would have certainly thrown into question any notions about putting faith in such institutions 0 even more so if they'd also heard about just how much evidence had been provided prior. The Council and other galactic leaders seem utterly incompetent to the point where you have to wonder about safety and survivability even beyond the threat of the Reapers.
I can't really blame the Raloi it would be like us finding the out there's other intelligence tomorrow then a year later getting dragged into a galactic war while the technology difference would be like fighting with swords against ICBMs.
Once the Reapers would have harvested all the council races and fully took control of the Citadel it wouldn't take long for them to find records of the recent Raloi visit.
Yeah, but the reapers left the Yahg homeworld alone, and the reapers knew the shadow broker knew about them and he was a yahg, plus the yahg are about as advanced as we were a few years back and they as a whole were aware of the council races since they were quarantined by them, plus the yahg specimens from the stg base escaped, so why did they leave the yahg alone, but not the raloi.
Also recommend Specter Mod and EGM mods for ME:3. Though not sure if they work yet for Legendary Edition yet it adds all lore context bits and you can have choices upon the fates of these new races.
The Virtual aliens remind me of a faction in Endless Space 2, the Vodyani. They both have a similar back story where their home planet can't sustain them anymore so they upload their mind to machine bodies, the major difference is the Vodyani are religious zealots crossed with vampires. If Bioware wanted to introduce the Virtual aliens as an antagonistic force that'd be a good avenue making them zealots though it'd be more likely they'd be a passive force you'd help out or destroy.
I kind of feel like the Virtual Aliens are a reference to Ian M Banks' Culture series, wherein humans in the future live in enormous, self-sufficient starships run by AI "Minds" - the biggest differences are that in Banks' books, there are many millions of such ships, and most of the humans who live aboard them have physical bodies- at this point in the history of that fictional universe, biological immortality is a thing, and the Minds are able to produce any physical resource a biological being might need, so there's not really much of an advantage to being a disembodied mind in a computer over being a flesh-and-blood human. And I think this reference serves the dual purposes of being a sci-fi easter egg (like the name Qwib-Qwib in ME2), and being yet another example that the Reapers are actually kind of stupid in a way - their slavish devotion to the Catalyst's original directive makes them fundamentally uncreative, and totally closed off to alternative solutions to the original problem the Catalyst was supposedly meant to solve.
I wonder how the reapers would consider the Virtuals in their current state. They already have essentially done as the reapers intended, willingly. And in their current state, the reapers couldn't really harvest them in the first place, although they could wipe them out.
What would happen if you took the jovic to ilos and then explored beneath the ruins of the prothean's which is built over what do they call the innocento race or innocento or whatever to unlock yet more technology and being that jovic has never been to ilos I could see something where javic would go and see some of these planets of his race to uncover some of the technologies that was left behind what do you think and if it was possible what do you think he would find there ? during Mass effect 3 javic talks about how the pilots of the his race would make and craft their own space ships or planes and then also be buried in them so I'm kind of curious of what they would even look like what do you think?
Neat info! I wouldn't be surprised if even the developers forgot about them and didn't include them, in some capacity, in the new game. It would be nice, though.
There's been a lot of things left behind ME3. We could get easily some Vorcha, Batarian and Geths in our squad, but they just skipped it.... There were many possibilities, but still nothing.
Raloi: *develops high tech machines*
Reapers pop up
Raloi: "quack quack QUAAAACK!"
😂😂😂
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣☠️💀
"What a majestic creature."
Reapers: "Mmmm, this chicken soup tastes gud". Turian Council Dude: "Ah yes, reapers"
😂
"Have you ever heard of the Raloi?"
Me, a fucking nerd: Yes.
"No? Well today you will!"
Hopefully the Raloi will be in the next game. Having them, the Rachni, the Geth, the Yahg and maybe a few new species in the galactic community would be interesting to see.
We need a *lot more* of the Batarians and Batarian lore.
@@editorrbr2107 That would definitely be cool. Have a split in Batarian politics, some wishing to leave the Hegemony behind, and others doubling down on the Hegemony's beliefs.
@@editorrbr2107 a shame they don't love you back XP
well, i doubt we see the Yahgs, they are even stronger and bloodthirsty than the Krogans, i don't think it's in anyone interest that they ever leaved their planet.
@@editorrbr2107 a shame they don't love you back XP
Correction on the Raloi:
They were mentioned in the Cerberus News updates in ME2 before some of the DLC came out.
The Avian flu they mention refers to the H5N1 pandemic which was all the rage at the time in some parts of the world.
I really hope that the Raloi are in the next Mass Effect. Both because I adore birds and love the idea of an avian species, but also,
I’m kind of in love with an Asari delegation making second first contact and being like “Hey so… we killed the Reapers”
It would be hilarious if the raloi downgraded themselves a century or more and then everyone is so pissed that they wont help them. Then the raloi would have to develop again. XD
Rick: why does everyone go cyber punk bird?
Raloi: we be space birds
It's worth pointing out that the Asari themselves were roughly at the Raloi's developmental level when the Reapers harvested the Protheans, and there's no reason to think the Reapers didn't know about them. I could see them leaving the Raloi alone, even if they knew about them.
That sounds like a good idea. But I thought Shepard stopped reaper invasion. In that case, all species should be alive in some state.
@@hyperactvehuman There are more than one Reaper Invasions.
The Asari could count only as high as their toes at the prothean era but the raloi are capable of developing satelites and orbiting them, they are probably at human level in reality or a bit higher.
@@richardobiekwe9437 Yeah, the Asari were basically the equivalent of us at 3,000 BC. The Raloi are like us at 2050
@@lif6737 What? The technology to detect and communicate with an alien spaceship in the same solar system is not decades away, the Raloi were probably at 1970's technology levels. Humans have been capable of that for generations.
We really don’t get anywhere near enough content for Mass Effect considering just how amazing the universe is and how much we can explore still
fan theory: the reapers love birds so they spared them
birbs are the best tho so you're probably right
Turiens are birds too. Debunked
I thought the Turians were simply a different type of tailless lizard people, @@umm-. Their semi-digi-grade legs would seem to give this away, I figured.
This is my cannon.
They didn’t spare the turians
Wow, these alien races are fascinating, even if we never saw them at any point, I'd never heard of them until now. You learn something new every day :D
they were in the news articles that were on the main menu in mass effect 2.
@@toomanyaccounts I'll have to check that out when I get round to playing ME2 LE
i think the raloi have a chance of surviving, i think the reapers would be more focused on the species actually fighting them than the species that is hiding back on their homeworld, and would probably wait until the spacefaring ones have been dealt with, which would not happen as the reapers are either destroyed, controlled or synthesized before the spacefaring races were defeated, so we might see the raloi in me4.
The reapers might just place a observation post in there system to keep an eye on them while they deal with the other races
Also worth noting is that it's stated that a full Reaper harvest takes centuries, so they had plenty of time to handle them after taking care of their priority targets.
The Virtuals story sounds like Doctor Who's Slilence in The Library situation.
Man the virtuals sound dope as hell
"The Virtuals" backstory sounds similar to the ending of another game. Spoiler if you dont want to know, stop reading, but its a horror/scifi game that came out in 2015-2016 I think, the game is Soma. Pretty much their backstory, minus the supernova, happens at the end of Soma.
Man that game was crazy, that ending still mess me up even to this day. I mean just knowing you download a copy of your consciousness into a virtual world while “you” still stuck in another machine on a already dead and uninhabitable planet.
Yeah, I enjoyed playing through Soma, even if it's typically not my kind of game. I like being able to see what I look like, and I can only handle 1st person perspectives for short durations before I start getting a headache. Still, it was interesting...But a bit sad also.
I recall hearing about the Raloi in game, though I admittedly never gave them much thought.
If the virtuals do make an appearance in the next Mass Effect game, I hope they make a Synthetic body for them so they more especially be distinguished from other races, something like what was used in the image of this video
Raloi: hello🤗
Everyone: we're getting ready to fight some huge laser cuttlefish.
Raloi:😳um... nothing to see here... bock bock cluck🐓😬
Raloi : hello we are here to join you
Everyone else : yay free KFC 🍗
Raloi:
On a second thought we are leaving and we aren't going to join you in your death
If they only legitimate option was to destroy option at the end of Mass Effect 3 wouldn't the virtual aliens be wiped out with the geth and EDI
Yup. The only Virtuals that would survive the Destroy ending would be those who traded bodies with someone and also didn’t get killed in the invasion. Ball park estimate if there was only 400 who traded it could possibly be as low as a dozen survivors to like a hundred.
their specie is already dead anyway.
why would destroy be the only legitimate option. the Control ending leaves the galaxy in something much closer to the status quo, rebuilding mass relays and damage from the war, honoring choices like curing the genophage and creating peace w the Quarians & Geth. Synthesis is probably too weird and abstract to ever be used.
@@mediumvillain that depends from peoples and their beliefs. Many think it's the "legitimate" because that's the only end where Shepard seems to survive.
I don't like the idea of Shepard living for millions of years alone in the mind of the reapers, aways from his peoples, i think that would make anyone crazy. And that crazy personn will have a army of thoussands unstoppable giants killer machines. And Shepard playing the "Keeper" of the galaxy sounds a bit dictatorial.
I reject the Synthesis because i don't believe in it, to me, organics and syntetics are ways too different to be merged like that. And i don't believe in the IA "lifeform" or even autonome intelligence. A computer that think and feel like a human is a terrifying idea.
And i believe orgnanics don't need the syntetics and are perfectly capable to rebuild the mass relays by themselves. We even see them doing exactly that in the destruction end. Genophage can be cured just as well and the Quarians may take generations to adapt to their planet but they will. By themselves, without the Geths. Hence why destruction is my favorite ending.
@@mediumvillain That's really just the way I see it commonly referred to the most . I think it has to do with shepherd's surviving if you have a high enough readiness rating
What a great lore video! This is the kind of stuff that I love learning about this universe!
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
The Ralou are referenced in ME2, over some Cerebus news messages.
where? in the Shadow broker network?
I think it would be an interesting quest to try and create a cloning facility for the virtual to create organic bodies for them from original tissue samples
Wow if you didn't show that audio clip or the wiki I wouldn't have been able to believe it. I had never heard of them before!
I remember that clip! I mostly dismissed it thinking I would run into them in-game at some point. I remember thinking to myself, "Maybe these bird people will be the Known Galaxy's final hope. The Reapers will not go for them because they forcibly made themselves a pre-spacefaring species. A few million of each Citadel species can go into stasis on or inside of their homeworld as a precaution. Within five hundred years (which seems to be the absolute minimum the Reapers go for for each Harvest Cycle to be *absolutely* thorough* the Reapers finally go back to Dark Space or wherever they really go after using the Citadel Mass Relay for the final time that Harvest Cycle we could finally begin the processes of mass awakening everyone who survived their stasis up to that point in time. From there we spend the next roughly 49,000 years to become technologically advanced enough to fight against the Reapers and probably actually successfully win a brute force war against the Reapers.
I've always seen the Raloi as being more like the Corvax family tree.
They could definitely look cooler than what i presented xD
The Raloi were introduced in ME2 in a news that can be heard in Ilium.
In the Galactic News, Friendly Nail? I ask because I rarely ever bother listening to Galactic News anywhere in-game. Mostly because I am so focused on doing my Mission.
Holy shit, FINALLY i found a sound clip of the Raloi withdrawing from galactic civilization. Ever since they added that bit of information in the Mass Effect Wiki i wondered where that actually came out. Thanks
I don't know about the Raloi. But the vertuals seem very interesting. As they could with Geth assistance. Creat synthetic bodies to occupy. Rather than swapping with an actual persons body. Becuase if you saved the Geth and Tali's people. The upgraded Geth. Would be smart enough to creat a brain like and sized system. As well as a realistic body based on the tech of EDI's body. Though based on the physical bodies the Vertual's originally had. Which would be way cool. One could even be a member of the new crew that Liara is building. Which would be awesome.
Though this has great ethical implications, they can potentially live forever which is not exactly the natural course of that species. The difference with the geth is that they where accidental, but in this case they where naturally born people. If I where to choose, I would help them with the condition that eventually their physical bodies would cease to function permanently, and I am being kind here.
@@marilynman i would prefer to give them the option of death if they ever get tired of living
I like to think the Raloi and other lesser species jumped on a 6th Ark Ship and began their long journey to Andromeda. =P
When the Reapers invaded the Raloi were like “NOPE! Let’s run back home, destroy all our technology, and play primitive.” LOL.
I was waiting for a UA-camr worth thier salt was going to make a video on this topic! Thanks 😊
Love your lore videos man. You always do such a great job. That little F this I'm out song was hilarious! I almost cried laughing so hard. Well done indeed.
😄 thank you as always for the support, it makes me happy knowing some of you guys like the humor 😉
Gotta say its exciting to know there are more species out there that can be introduced from WITHIN the milky way. Since shephard saved the galaxy in under a year, the Raloi are probably still around in diminished numbers.
definetly yes , and well Raloi were known to me andm i would love to meet them if they appear .
I just read about those two races and wonder :D and BAAAAM you just upload this video ! thank you ! :3
Council: Welcome, friends! You are now part of an amazing galactic community!
Raloi: Wow, you are too ki- ...what is that?
Council: Oh, er... they're just Reapers. Don't worry too much, we're fighting th-
Raloi: Heh heh... Er, no. No, thank you.
I believe if you listen to Liara in her cabin, she has a conversation with Glyph regarding the Raloi. They don’t escape the reaper threat, so their leaders commit self genocide and detonate nuclear weapons across the planet, killing everyone.
Oh no, what!? Thank you for informing me xD
@@MrHulthen I’m almost 90% positive this is what I remember. Cool info about the virtual aliens, I don’t recall them in my playthroughs. With the possibility of relays having never been activated before and during the reaper war, it’s possible for many more races to show up in the time up to ME4 and have representatives to the citadel. Possibly another Rachni incident perhaps?
Oi, where are Kryptoninas? There is only 1 survivor.
I caught the tail end of that Raloi news segment and was wondering who it was talking about! So glad i found this. I do hope they appear in 4 or to the Andromeda gang
That song has become a house hold joke around here. Love it
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With "zero element" motivation it still make sense
Thanks! Was hoping you'd pick this
Hold on a minute...how did the Raloi know that the Reapers only target spacefaring races? I don't think this was widely known information by anyone outside of Shepherd's crew. I wonder if they have had contact with the Reapers before?
Yep! Which I figure the Raloi have or had one or more Reaper technologies on their homeworld. The Raloi had an all out civil war against the Indoctrinated and the Non-Indoctrinated. After the Non-Indoctrinated won out they quickly became a spacefaring species. This would explain why the Raloi were mysteriously a spacefaring species yet had literally nothing to fight back in the way of any wars. Even Humanity fought back during the First Contact War. So for the Raloi to suddenly appear on the Galactic Stage yet have nothing to ever fight back against really anyone would mean they recently finished a major conflict of theirs. An all out civil war would be a major conflict for sure.
The virtual sounds really interesting, the fried chickens on the other hand are probably dead come on the reapers wouldn't let them go hell even just one of them could harvest them if their great idea was play dumb hoping for the best.
fun fact about the virtuals: The science behind uploading a mind into a cyber or digital construct is incredibly complicated and so advanced that unless there was some science I missed out on learning about, it wuld make the Virtuals more advanced and smarter than the salarians.
That makes them the most advanced organic species in the galaxy. The geth were the only ones who could do something similar, when Legion uploaded Shepard to the server.
The Raloi are a bunch of chickens
I don’t know if it’s been added in with a Mod I have, but the virtual Aliens can be read about on the shadow broker terminal in liara’s cabin.
Can we say that Raloi.... Chickened out ?
😂😂
I would suspect that the Reapers actually didn't get around to harvesting the Raloi. They were certainly on the list but since they decided to hide away on their homeworld and not interact with anyone else they were probably very low priority: they weren't a threat, likely had low strategic value and weren't at risk of getting wiped out by anything before the Reapers got around to them.
I think the Reapers might have ignored the Raloy for two reasons:
1: We can assume that the location of their world was not well known since they were the new ones on the Citadel. So most data had to be saved on the Citadel which wasn't captured until the end of the game.
2. The Raloy are most likely a “pre colonisation“ species. So they might have the tech to travel to the Citadel and other mass relays but might be too primitiv to colonise new planets yet.
At most, they could have a colony in their own system but even then, they are now isolated.
We know that the Reapers love to isolate whole systems and then leaving them alone, knowing that the population can't escape.
So even if ME3 takes place for maybe a year, I don't think that the Reapers already wasted their time on a one planet/system species that already was isolated.
So to me, it would make sense that we can assume thst the Raloy are most likely still around. Maybe even without an attack
The virtuals very much remind me of the architects or precursors of subnautica. Which is kinda cool to think about.
More lore makes me happy since I can't play it right now. Achievement bug which prevents advanced training from being available. On insanity this just makes it unnecessarily hard having a Vanguard without barrier. Two weeks with this bug. Sadface
Knowing bioware they'll make both races look too similar to humans. Like how they did the drell and the quarians.
“Have you heard about the Raloi? It’s not a story the Jedi would tell.”
Right.
This is really out there, and probably not possible, but.
I really have a feeling that somehow, the virtuals could be the jardaan. I mean, they have a very advanced ship, that much we know, and as they work at software processing levels (like the geth), it's not impossible that they could have somehow studied and reverse engineered or retrofitted a relay for the purpose of getting to the Andromeda galaxy, and then with machinery developed from the initial ship, created the remnant tech that we see.
It's a long shot, but it would be cool.
Also the second shadow broker that we know of race wasn’t harvest either it’s mentioned the reapers skipped their planet and went to another colony of the citadel race in the system instead. Kinda weird the Protheans knew of the humans before we left the caves tho you’d think we would of had something on earth if they visited us.
I can't blame the Raloi for isolating themselfs and play primitive when the reapers arrived. They just had developed space travel and would've been Extinguished by the reapers if they joined the galactic comunity.
The Raloi wouldn't have been much help in the short term. At best, they could have provided some ground troops, but the containment suits would have been a liability.
In a prolonged reaper war they could have upgraded their industries and provided materiel support and perhaps a handful of ships to the war, but it would have made no difference.
Overall, they probably made the right call, but there will likely still be bitterness toward them in a post-war galaxy.
The raloi have a much bigger presence in the original Mass Effect 3 if you install the Spectre Expansion mod and you can even go into orbit around Turvess. This mod paired with Expanded Galaxy Mod will give a diehard Mass Effect fan countless hours of more gameplay and lore immersion. Every star system that was in any of the games of the trilogy will be included, plus locales that have only been mentioned and never put into the game, such as Turvess mentioned earlier and the hanar homeworld of Kahje. If you have the original trilogy on PC, check these mods out and climb up into your ivory tower and start your lost summer of 2021! :-D
That song around the middle of the vid tho...🤣🤣 👍
People don't know how long 50k years is. The Rallo likely would eventually collectively forget the Reapers entirely after some time, well before the return of the Reapers. Even with our current technology and records there are concerns future people on Earth may forget why we don't settle in the exclusions zones around Chernobyl before it's safe to do so. Considering if Chernobyl happened in 15,000BC it'd still wouldn't be suitable for another 3k years give or take. Many people today probably don't even know humans existed in 15,000BC.
And the Kirik. Would be nice to see those new species.
That virtual alien concept art is just....danger Willl Robinson!
I dont think it would matter. The Raloi know about the reapers, and so they will not be spared as the cycle depends on no one surviving to warn the next group about what's coming
I was aware of the virtuals, they are mentioned in game by scanning a planet. Which planet is escaping me. But I did not catch the Raloi reference! Kinda of a big deal too and it's only over the news. Nice! Loving the cannel so far!
Pretty much the entire franchise is about how the reapers are wrong, even Andromeda was at its core about SAM and Ryder working together allowing them to interface with Jardaan tech and resist the Kett. Even the Jardaan and Angara seemed to be organic-synthetic hybrids to some extent, as only Angara and Ryder can use Jardaan tech.
Raloi squadmate in Mass Effect 4??
May our Raloi squadmate be a giant goose. You know for that "your goose got cooked" joke. See how long that joke lasts.
@@adamgray1753 I'm all for it, if we get Top Gun references.
I knew about the Raloi, but never looked too far into them, but the Virtuals sound very interesting. I hope we see both in the next Mass Effect. I also hope the Raloi get called out for hiding while the rest of the Galaxy fought to save everyone. Are those pictures their Canon appearance, or was that just art that did the job?
Have you ever heard of the giant space chickens spreading bird flu that were going to be in mass effect?
Me: The what now?! 👁👄👁
What Id like to see in ME4 is a race that just keeps popping up no matter what the reapers had done over the various cycles. That one embarrassing thing they could never overcome but their pride would never allow them to admit. Like if the reason Harbinger was so seemingly angry at Shepard was because every few cycles a new version of Humans show up and throw a monkey wrench into the reaper plan. I know it doesn't fit neatly into the lore but a convergent/atavistic evolutionarily path hidden among the DNA of different species seems fun.
Also reminds me of the rachni tgey were bred to fight by the protheans but they betrayed them and was hunted down and went into hiding. The reapers never noticed their existence and completely missed them. The rachini returned thousands of years later they return and start the rachini wars, the krogans ended and yet again they survive.
The image at 1:39 looks a lot like the avian species in Stellaris
I hope we get to see the Raloi
And the virtual aliens wouldn't be hard because they don't have physical bodies and use already established aliens as host
I can't blame the Raloi. They'd just started to find out about life beyond their world, probably still hadn't even had the chance to send anyone off-world beyond a few delegates to the Citadel, and in a year learn about the threat of the Reapers. They were, by NO means capable of aiding in the war against them - let alone doing any of the fighting themselves. This was literally the only feasible move they could make. Plus, if they'd heard about how Shepard had been warning everyone else about the coming Reaper invasion and the galaxy's leaders had sat on their hands and done nothing about it, that would have certainly thrown into question any notions about putting faith in such institutions 0 even more so if they'd also heard about just how much evidence had been provided prior. The Council and other galactic leaders seem utterly incompetent to the point where you have to wonder about safety and survivability even beyond the threat of the Reapers.
"Raloi's gale is ready."
Learning about new races is one of my favorites joy...seriql
The concept art looked better than the digital rendition for the avian race
The Raloi are certain interesting. I'd love the see them walking around the citadel in ME4. Assuming it still works lol.
Spoiler alert: We will play as a Raloi in ME4
Or at least have one as a companion.
Humanity only got a good 26 years to be part of the galactic community before the Reaper harvest, so we were the next unlucky.
Hmmm, the virtuals, discovered by Jordan (Jardaan) sounds likes a bridge to Andromeda; uploaded consciousness like the remnant and the angara
I can't really blame the Raloi it would be like us finding the out there's other intelligence tomorrow then a year later getting dragged into a galactic war while the technology difference would be like fighting with swords against ICBMs.
They should have a representative from every race to be your squad mate like encore and hanar
Virtual seem super convenient to the reapers
Once the Reapers would have harvested all the council races and fully took control of the Citadel it wouldn't take long for them to find records of the recent Raloi visit.
It'd be cool to see Raloi in a new mass effect...but idk how the devs feel about modeling feathers...seems like it would be hard, but IDK
If the "Destroy" Ending is canon, the virtuals must be wiped out at the end of ME3?!
The early bird gets the worm. The Raloi are the late bird that flees in terror of a Reaper Harvest and shuts themselves down into the stone age.
We need a Mass Effect tv show.
If said Mass Effect TV show does not get infected with Leftist/Communist ideology, sure!
Yeah, but the reapers left the Yahg homeworld alone, and the reapers knew the shadow broker knew about them and he was a yahg, plus the yahg are about as advanced as we were a few years back and they as a whole were aware of the council races since they were quarantined by them, plus the yahg specimens from the stg base escaped, so why did they leave the yahg alone, but not the raloi.
Also recommend Specter Mod and EGM mods for ME:3. Though not sure if they work yet for Legendary Edition yet it adds all lore context bits and you can have choices upon the fates of these new races.
The Citadel have a pandemic avian flu after the Raloi came abroad. Doctor Chloe Michels was over worked trying to find a vaccine
The Virtual aliens remind me of a faction in Endless Space 2, the Vodyani. They both have a similar back story where their home planet can't sustain them anymore so they upload their mind to machine bodies, the major difference is the Vodyani are religious zealots crossed with vampires. If Bioware wanted to introduce the Virtual aliens as an antagonistic force that'd be a good avenue making them zealots though it'd be more likely they'd be a passive force you'd help out or destroy.
Or necron from warhammer 40k
The Virtuals remind me of the Vorlons from Babylon 5 with their energy holding suits and that symbiosis
i would love to see these races in the next game but since its EA, I will err in the side of caution and not expect anything yet.
I kind of feel like the Virtual Aliens are a reference to Ian M Banks' Culture series, wherein humans in the future live in enormous, self-sufficient starships run by AI "Minds" - the biggest differences are that in Banks' books, there are many millions of such ships, and most of the humans who live aboard them have physical bodies- at this point in the history of that fictional universe, biological immortality is a thing, and the Minds are able to produce any physical resource a biological being might need, so there's not really much of an advantage to being a disembodied mind in a computer over being a flesh-and-blood human.
And I think this reference serves the dual purposes of being a sci-fi easter egg (like the name Qwib-Qwib in ME2), and being yet another example that the Reapers are actually kind of stupid in a way - their slavish devotion to the Catalyst's original directive makes them fundamentally uncreative, and totally closed off to alternative solutions to the original problem the Catalyst was supposedly meant to solve.
I wonder how the reapers would consider the Virtuals in their current state. They already have essentially done as the reapers intended, willingly. And in their current state, the reapers couldn't really harvest them in the first place, although they could wipe them out.
What would happen if you took the jovic to ilos and then explored beneath the ruins of the prothean's which is built over what do they call the innocento race or innocento or whatever to unlock yet more technology and being that jovic has never been to ilos I could see something where javic would go and see some of these planets of his race to uncover some of the technologies that was left behind what do you think and if it was possible what do you think he would find there ? during Mass effect 3 javic talks about how the pilots of the his race would make and craft their own space ships or planes and then also be buried in them so I'm kind of curious of what they would even look like what do you think?
Thank you for mentioning this species... I don't know that they are existing in Mass Effect... Mass 👍🏼🙂
Raloi have chickened out!
Neat info! I wouldn't be surprised if even the developers forgot about them and didn't include them, in some capacity, in the new game. It would be nice, though.
There's been a lot of things left behind ME3. We could get easily some Vorcha, Batarian and Geths in our squad, but they just skipped it.... There were many possibilities, but still nothing.
That song was on points 🤣😂