I don't mind Luke drying, what I hate is that they assassinated his character. Alien animal boobs green milk sloping down the beard, throw the lightsaber away, mope about like a whiny loser, don't take accountability for your actions, try to assassinate a kid for no reason, the most OPTIMISTIC person in the galaxy reduced to a snivvling depressed scrub. Hel, I don't even mind some of the things they did to Luke, but they did them so poorly. 1. Luke lost his optimism? Make it so that galaxtic politics wore him down or something. 2. Luke slupin on alien animal titty milk? Okay, don't go that far, but make him kinda like Yoda if necessary. A little eccentric, but not a moron. 3. Throwing the lightsaber away? Luke could have thrown it away to symbolize that the past shouldn't weight you down as an unexpected action Rey wouldn't have anticipated. But they made him throw it away in disgust instead. 4. Luke did basically NOTHING. He could have done at least SOMETHING. Make a contingency here, a plan there, etc... 5. He could accept that he's tired of the galaxy, but don't make him a loser because of it. 6. He NEVER should have tried to kill Rylo Ken, that's just NOT his character. Did he learn NOTHING from Vader?!?! MAYBE they could have explained it by like, Snoke or another darksider (not palpy) doing some kind of ritual to try and weaken the strongest Jedi in the galaxy in a gambit to get him to retreat from the galaxy so they can try to take over the new republic or something. 7. He became mega depresso for literally no reason. It's dumb.
I agree with this video, however you can’t blame the fans for dogshit writing. We all saw their low iq before last movie and we all saw the agenda being driven. So what do you expect when the fanbase goes to shit when you have a 2 movies that directly contradict eachother before the third act of the sequels. It’s tragic, not the fans fault.
a poorly written rip off of jason. disney takes concepts from legends and does them poorly because they hire hack writers who dont understand the property, its themes, and characters.
@crystalbluepartain3434 Hit the nail on the head. I'm so tired of people blaming fans for stupid shit that Corporations, and bought out studios do. How do we live in a day and age where people will literally bitch at people for being unsatisfied with a shitty product that was once good?
Not quite. Jaycen Solo pursued the Force based on the old systems, because the Prophecy of Mortis/The Chosen One wasn't a thing yet. Kylo does pursue the magic of the Sith, but it's not quite what it was during the Imbalance and Rule of Two, and he has a couple of new spells instead (Stasis, Sleep, Pry Mind). But eventually he realizes that he can't compete with Rey, she is the bigger fish that will destroy him, and maybe because she isn't trying to follow a broken pattern. And he thinks the Emperor's power is the only thing left, that might still save him. But there is that "Magic Kiss" spell, we don't really know what does, but it seemed to focus Finn's Force affinity, to make him better with his Battlecry spell.
@@tn420animations9 Those books were always meant to be the placeholders if George ever decided to do the sequels. The cannon has always been, books and comics, tv and video games, then the movies at the top.
16:23 "awesome fight scene"😐gang the red guards literally attack each other or spin and fall back for no reason..... One of the worst fight scenes in cinema
correct. Looked beautiful from a cinematic glance. The color and contrast. Then you start to notice that the they are all doing a dance on stage choreographed by some amateur. Most unrealistic fight scene in Star wars history.
The orignal script from what I've heard for Rise of Skywalker would've kept Kylo as the main villain, and Palpatine would've only appeared in a hologram record message.Finn supposed to have more focus, leading all these ex-troopers. So we could've got 3 separate groups. Now I think what could've been cool too, if General Hux would've raised his own little army to go against Kylo, who, as you also mentioned, wanted to do his own thing, while Hux pretty much wanted to repeat the whole empire thing. I think for the ending, I would've done somehting like, Anakin's ghost appearing, and convinces Kylo to stop, or maybe he could've appeared multiple times, so it doesn't come off as random.I still don't know how they could've explained the empire returning, or Kylo turning evil, or Luke just abandoning everyone. I saw videos about the old books, and some had these insectoid beings with psionic powers or something, and they came from a different galaxy, and every faction, including the empire united against them I think, so maybe they could've done something like that.Maybe they worked from the shadows to cause chaos so these characters would've killed each other, so that when they'd arrive, they'd have an easier job.Or I dunno.
Return of the Jedi is my favourite Star Wars film, but i definitely cannot discount the fact that it is an excellent summation of the two prior films work. Dying Darth Vader to Luke: "Let me look at you, with my own eyes" Man chokes me up everytime. Its so much more than a literal statement, its a metaphor for repealing all of his (Vader's) ideologies.
(17:10) Brother I hate to be "that star wars guy" but this point is irrelevant. The whole "join men, fuck the sith." Has already been done like three times in the original six films way better. Count Dooku asked Obiwan, Anakin asked Padme, and Vader Asked Luke. It's not original at all, and it's not subverting anything. Kilo is STILL trying desperately to be Vader and failing.
true, it would be fun to see what happens when a jedi actually accepts (out of their own free will,not manipulated like Anakin) and the goal isn't to rule the galaxy
@Cinemavigilante That's how 90% of turning to the dark side works. The dark side is literally a metaphor for the nature of Evil, balance in the force isn't 50 light 50 dark. That's some retarded Disney invention. Balance is the absence of evil. Peace in the galaxy. Most people are not born evil. As most sith and Darksiders do not actually start out evil like Palpatine did. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be a prick, but I'm so tired of people making these arguments. But I do appreciate you understanding how on a basic movie making level these movies suck.
I don't feel like that's a reasonable comparison. We know Dooku became Sith, even though he didn't want to, so Obi-Wan was right in not following him. Padmé was a Senator for a recovering system, she wasn't a powerhouse in any sense, so what is she supposed to join Anakin in? Vader specifically said: "You. Dark Side. Emperor. Killed." And Luke said Nuh uh, and Vader died of Big Sad, like his wife. Kylo said: "Idk what the fck you are, but can you NOT murder me, please?"
Vader was legit playing with Luke in that fight scene. He already knew who Luke was. But Vader being Vader he didn't hold back to much by the end. Literally fighting Luke one handed. Lvl 1 Jedi Vs Lvl 20 Sith Lord.
The Nooooo didn't ruin it like bro he just put on a voice modulator and machine body. He probably screamed and the machine just got noooo from it. It's haunting cause it's him wailing the loss of his love and his body his way of life
Nice to hear a take from someone who's not steeped in the lore. However, the biggest problem with Revenge of the Sith is the turn. Anakin doesn't kill younglings and expect a pregnant Padme to be like "we need milk." 🤷
nah man the originals are classic you gotta rewatch em in a different way cuz those movies were wholesome as hell and the story had heart idk how to explain it fr theyre good movies tho especially ep5 and 6
I guarantee, Star Wars fans werent just mad at the sequels cause of the characters! The issue was SOLELY AND FIRSTLY the writing. The problems with the characters was one thing but the the plot, story, lack of cohesion and true plan for the story is what upset people.
As someone who is a huge Star Wars fan, I highly agree with you. Even tho I will admit Episode 1 and 2 aren’t that great of movies, I personally still love them because they still have that George Lucas feel to it. And surprisingly I also Agree with you about the Disney Movies. I feel like The Force Awakens should have ended with Kylo Ren winning, and the 2nd movie be about Rey and Fin looking for Luke Skywalker, and the Three of them go after Snoke and Kylo. They could have also kept the same ending where Snoke kills Luke and Snoke tell Kylo to finish Rey, but instead, Kylo kills Snoke, then we get that “join me line” etc. And the 3rd movie Would be able Rey, Finn, and a small group of others going after Kylo and his Knights of Ren Cult members
Hey, the fans aren't to blame for anything because they wanted different. It was Disney and Abrams that wanted to play things safe because THEY assumed that's what the fans wanted so we got the soft reboot/rehash. Rian wanted to things different and I commend him for that, but it came about at the wrong time which is why TLJ fails to an extent. Abrams then wanted Palpatine to be the overarching baddie by the end of the trilogy because he was such in the original and prequel trilogies and it just makes sense. I DO wish he handled his return better and not made it so brush and that Palpatine as a clone had more to do than be stuck in one location like in Return of the Jedi. Frankly, a sequel trilogy wasn't needed at all. I think we just needed one epilogue movie to wrap up both trilogies that showcased the start of the New Republic and generation of warriors that's both a Jedi/Sith hybrid and call it a day from there.
My only problem with 17:30 is that unfortunately we NEVER get to hear from Kylo what his actual aspirations are outside of wanting to be the same as his grandad. he has “depth” but ultimately it’s as deep as him just wanting a girlfriend while ruling the galaxy, which is essentially what anakin wanted with Padme. So it’s more of the same thing, but imo, delivered in a worse way. At least with Anakin we had a bit of build up and could assume what he wanted to turn the galaxy into, albeit from a darker origin Idk what Kylos struggles were outside of him being pulled towards the light and killing his dad,(amongst likely other people he’s killed). He just doesn’t seem like a well put together antagonist turned good guy But ironically he is the most layered character out of all of the new bunch and that’s sayin somethin lol
I love your take on Kylo. I was telling people the same thing. The fact that he's unstable and vulnerable. It makes for good writing and possibilities. I thought they were gonna use it! The Sith and the Jedi joining forces was like the only new and interesting thing this series couldve done. Missed opportunities all around. Don't get me started on Fin & Rey. But that, it's the fan's fault I don'tunderstand. 1st, most of the Disney Star Wars movies were disliked by EVERYONE. Second, the fans are saying exactly what you are saying here. No one is saying they wanted just the old shit Maybe the brain dead ones who jizz when they hear a lightsaber. You've mentioned this before, it's the recycling of past movie plots, that's Disney bro, thats all they got. They've been doing that since The Force Awakens. The fans just wanted good Star Wars.
Obviously I have disagreement but I really respect you putting this out here. Barely anyone hasn't seen these movies so it's super cool hearing a fresh perspective, great job and very nice editing!
Hoo boy. Sorry for the rant. I hope you read it though, it's not very angry. About Luke. You're not wrong, his death was reviled. But I think you missed two details here. First, it was him walking into Ben's room. After he was asleep. Going through his thoughts. Then taking out his lightsaber. That last part, honestly, isn't even the worst in this sequence. It's the fact that he was there to begin with. The second major issue is that Luke did not successfully reestablish the Jedi Order. He failed. Epically. I don't know how much you heard about the expanded universe while dipping your toes in Star Wars. What Disney now call Legends. That was like 40 years of novels, games, comics, radio dramas, and lore books that many of us read and followed along. It got convoluted times, and many of the pre-2002 works didn't realize that the Clones fought for the Republic. But it had some excellent moments, and one of those things was the legacy of the legacy characters. Luke rebuilt the order from almost scratch, and Leia did the same for the Republic. Both institutions survive the turmoils and trials. They don't become this bloated paper tiger for villains to destroy in one button-push. And that's what many of us really hate. Guess who's doing the reconstruction this time round? Rey. They even called her upcoming series the New Jedi Order, which was the name of a long saga of the EU. Maybe one of the best, if controversial. It featured Luke's niece and nephew, Jaina, Jacen, and Anakin (who dies). In that order. They were great kids and worthy successors. Jaina was who we wanted Rey to live up to, and Jacen, Kylo Ren. These characters came into their own without the deaths of Luke, Han, and Leia. Chewie dies though. And it's the most tragic scene ever. Everyone needs a moment after that. So I think you're wrong that Luke shouldn't have survived the sequel trilogy. Instead he died, and having not accomplished what should've been his magnum opus. But yeah, it's not his death that got under my skin. By the way, you missed the best part of TLJ. Rey "Nobody." The new hero not being part of some dynasty was a really cool move. Blew my mind when I saw it. They should've stuck the landing on that one, made her a person with no name. Not Palpatine, not even Skywalker. Just Rey.
I don't think it was because Luke got killed off (I was pretty satisfied with how he went out), it was because the rest of Luke's appearance was an angry grumpy old man who drank green milk. People were so excited about seeing Luke in action again & seeing this broken old man wasn't what most fans I imagine were looking forward to. Another problem with the film I had was Capt. Phantasma. She was a really built up character & the clash between her & Finn was underwhelming.
It weird to me. The Jedi Order basically abduct kids to train them for their whole lives, and only so many of them become competent at fighting the Sith. Then Luke goes on a 4 months bootcamp, and he's expected to be Yoda, and rebuild the Jedi system from the ground up, during Balance? He was obviously used, in the best case scenario by fate. It's not strange, that he became disillusioned. And he's drinking Green Milk, pretending that it does the same as Blue Milk, so he can explain where all his Force powers went away to. And he won't have to admit, that he's probably dead (Dark Side Ghosts tend to be stuck in a specific location). Maybe there's something curse related with Finn and Phasma - he couldn't kill her, but he had been opened to become a hand puppet/battery pack for Rey. Maybe the witch kiss changed that in some way.
10:31 we do agree with you more than you think in fact 14:21 no no we agree she is a Mary Sue, noone even if they have the best genes, needs training to be able to fight properly. Like Luke is the son of the chosen one and he needed 3 movies worth of training to be a decent jedi. 19:11 no that in fact was the problem and not his death by itself. That and his bad characterisation throughout the movie
I disagree with the point that it's the fans' fault. In my experience, the vast majority of other star wars fans aren't focused on the sequels being different than the older movies. It's that they bastardized and disrespected the lessons and character arcs that those characters went through to make them who they are. I knew it was a good possibility that Luke was going to die when they started making the sequels. My hope was that they would do his character justice. Not only did they not do his death justice, but they butchered his character entirely from the start. Luke skywalker was the didnt back down or give in to the dark side. He was the only one that had the conviction and compassion enough to finally bring Anakin back to the light, despite all the pain, manipulation, and suffering brought on his own actions and that of Palpatine's influence. And yet we're supposed to believe that the same Luke Skywalker would not only run away from the fight for peace, but now be so weak to impulse that he'd raise his lightsaber to his own nephew??? This is the man that defied all in order to stick by his father's side til the end, even if it meant laying down his weapon and being at the mercy of Sidious. And now he's in a much kess intense situation, and suddenly cant handle a misguided fear about Ben? Ridiculous. The sequels didnt need to be just like the original or prequel trilogies. They just needed to respect them and build upon them into new territory based on how these characters and new one's would continue to grow after all their experiences and encounters with new threats. Disney has slapped us in the face with how little they care about the franchise. Besides that though, a lot of you conceptions of the films with super spot on. Revenge of the Sith is my favorite star wars film, personally, so it's nice to hear somebody not hating on it yet again lol. I enjoyed episode 1 and 2 also, but I completely understand the criticisms. The dialogue can definitely be clunky
3:29 finally, someone says it. especially empire strikes back that is the most overhyped film i've seen for fantasy. i get it, i understand why, but it's so overhyped that so many star wars fans are so blinded by it that they only see that film just like how dark knight fans will say christopher nolan's trilogy is the greatest batman films ever, but only acknowledge dark knight and that's it
It is stupid no way she should have won against kylo first time. Like makes no sense regardless of her force potential or force powers. If she lost and barely got away from him and have that defeat affect rey moving forward
I was born in 1982. Return of the Jedi is my Stars Wars; Ewoks and all. Luke told Jabba release my friend or they’ll be hell to pay. Jabba chose the latter.
For somebody who's not a Star Wars fan this was one of most insightful takes on the whole series. Glad you liked Ep 3 it was my first ever DVD and still my fav episode
I used to be a die hard Star Wars fan, but I actually agree with you about the last Jedi BUT to me, the reason why I hate the movie is the treatment of Luke. Nothing else The way he didn’t get a redemption arc, died of a heart attack. AND the follow up movie didn’t redeem him either..
2:40 this scene doesn't REALLY retcon the one from the og trilogy just cuz vader was still kinda new to the whole vader thing i didn't watch the show so idk how much time had passed since mustafar but from ep3 to ep4 was almost 30 yrs into vader
facts with the prequels tho i only ever liked episode 3 the transitions for all those movies were so goofy and the scenes were the length of an incredible hulk ps3 cutscene 🤦♂️
You somehow missed the fact that Kylo was made the main villain after losing to Rey twice. It felt like a bad joke since he’s no threat to Rey. Also blaming fan backlash for them writing palpatine back in is ridiculous, they could’ve simply written a halfway decent conclusion with the trashfire The Last Jedi left.
I said the same thing that it should have been a cult aka the knights of ren, instead of them being throwaway nothing villians. Kylo's offer to Ray would have been compelling if the cliffhanger was her saying yes to him, contrasting Luke's no to Vader in empire. It's not the fans fault though the writers wrote garbage. The fanbase would give them good ideas if they'd listen. I guarantee NO fan would say yes to Palpatine returning.
Don´t mean to argue or dissagre with Mr Sir Zaffy here. But as touching upon "Mary Sue" issue (wich at the time before part VII I never heard about that thing), an interresting thing I read about The last jedi, before it came out, was that Luke was actually ment to be a woman (first draft of the script and also some arts where done). As for the last 3 (outside Rouge One - whom I liked) I kind a like them; Mainly becouse the effects - yes I didn´t have any higher hopes or expectation on neither. I really enjoy all these videos and the idea on "how the movie should have been". Keep telling it how you see it.
The new Jedi order was way better, it was actually something new, crazy powerful aliens, gangs etc, but having sith again is boring, dark Jedi would’ve made more sense
Your constructive criticism is really welcoming. Star wars has way more complicated issues behind the scenes. No joke either, and you hit the nail on the head. The sequel trilogy was a train wreck. I would've preferred a brand new story but we got this mess. With how it's being milked now, Star Wars either needs to go away for a long time (no movies or shows) and stick to books and comics or just be left behind in the past. The original trilogy was great, prequel was okay till the third film. But the sequels were not handled well at all. Star Wars is a fun escape but its not that important at the end of the day.
I grew up seeing the original trilogy in theaters and even as a kid, the attraction was more about the cool creatures, spaceships, weapons, etc than any genuine interest in the story or lore. The original definitely had better written characters though. Going forward from the originals, i found the movies either boring or mildly entertaining. Bad writing is the true dark side
Just came across your channel, so it's probably creating some buzz in the algo for whatever reason. I first found it fascinating how, apparently without being familiar with the lore or the fandom, you came to between 80%-90% of the same conclusions that I've seen most Star Wars fans come to about the Disney sequels. Which made it very disappointing to me when you laid the failure of the Rise of Skywalker at *their feet.* As a Star Wars fan: 1. I agree with you that the issue wasn't that the old characters were killed off. That's acceptable. But there's a right way to do it, and bringing them in to have them do very little and then die came off as a bait and switch. In fact, their inclusion at all was a bait and switch to the actors themselves, who believed they were coming back to a film directed by George Lucas. What angered me the most wasn't that they died, it was that they were *squandered.* And, as some others have acknowledged, their character progression and achievements were all basically assassinated of undermined. Luke was such a revolutionary Jedi, he managed to redeem Darth Vader, something probably almost no other Jedi would have believed possible. Luke faced the near certainty of his own death, and quite probably the deaths of all his friends, rather than fall into Palpatine's temptation. He was able to accomplish this because he shared a common trauma with his father, and had stared into the same abyss. Han Solo was a pragmatic and nihilistic mercenary, who was inspired by Luke and Leia to begin caring about the fate of the Galaxy. Having him traipsing about as a smuggler again felt wrong. Leia was probably assassinated the least, but because she had so little interaction with the other characters, or even screen time, before dying, it felt very disappointing. 2. Disney seemed only capable of aping the formula of Star Wars, without really understanding it, or vandalizing it as an act of vanity. When they should have instead built on what had been established, and progressed the story forward, they either forged a pale imitation, or entirely threw out character and lore for the sake of expedience. The Expanded Universe of Star Wars is incredibly vast, and spans 3+ decades of novels, comics, and videogames. They could have cherry picked the best possible ideas from that lore to explore in their sequels, and instead, they chose almost none of it, with the exception of what they could so grossly distort that they wouldn't be required to provide royalties. 3. One of the primary issues of the sequel Trilogy, beyond what I have already mentioned, is that they were absolutely miserable at setting up events that would later be paid off. Though I think there's plenty of blame to go around, it's pretty easy to see how much responsibility rests on JJ Abrams, whose idea of a set-up is something he establishes only to intrigue, with payoff being an afterthought. "Mystery Box" storytelling. And Rian Johnson, whose idea of payoff is to just do whatever you weren't expecting, with no thought to how logically it actually tracks with the broader context. The two of them, operating in tandem were like a match made in hell. JJ operating seemingly without a plan, and Rian serving to sabotage what Chekov's guns were incidentally provided. Together they so thoroughly eroded the organic foundations of the narrative, that by the third film, the story had been left with almost no compelling structural elements on which to stand. Captain Phazma was humiliated in the first film, then fell down a hole in the second (womp womp). Snoke was dead, Hux was a Joke, Kylo had been beaten and humiliated thrice over, and Rey was basically the most powerful Force user remaining in the Galaxy. Who cares if the Resistance had to flee with their tail tucked, they'd been saved by the person who had triumphed over basically every tangible obstacle so far, even without conscious intent, getting Kylo to kill the only Force user who may have conceivably been able to overpower her, just by *making him horny, I guess?* And then there's the Holdo Maneuver (hyperspace ramming) which effectively breaks one of the core features of Star Wars, the *space battles,* by being such an effective strategy that one is bewildered that anyone would ever use *anything else.* 4. In the Expanded Universe lore of the novels and comics, Leia was a major player in galactic politics, her and Han's children were pivotal to decades of major storylines, and Luke became the founder of a new order of Jedi Knights, whose own adventures filled vast volumes of their own with much drama and intrigue. Were all the stories good? No. But that presented an opportunity to Disney to strive to adapt the very best features of the EU, with the benefit of hindsight, into a unified cinematic universe. Instead we got a melty man in a gold bathrobe whose existence is never really explained beyond that I guess he was a weird clone or something. All the Skywalkers are dead. And there's basically no one left from legacy canon that anyone could care about except R2D2, C3PO, an aging Lando, and Chewbacca, characters who had previously received comparatively little development. And the hero's reward for beating the evil Empire was the Empire coming back and destroying almost everything they'd built. Imagine if episode 10-12 basically just did this again. Hey, here's a subversion, maybe have Kylo *survive,* unlike Vader. Imagine whatever is rebuilt from the Resistance having to contend with Rey over the fate of an ex-Sith war criminal. No? He's dead, too? Pity that. Everything is tied off in a neat little bow. Where do you even go from here? Yeah, that's why I, a Star Wars fan, am annoyed. The prequel trilogy was disappointing too, but at least it *felt like Star Wars.* (You're absolutely right that George Lucas is awful at dialogue.)
The problem for me with revenge of the sith, is, what are they getting revenge for.the jedi didn't attack them or anything.where s the vengeance coming from.?and also the stakes in the fight scenes are low cos we already know how they both die.i would have liked R.O.S.to be about the rise of palpatine ( more indepth) his charisma and then his seducing of anakin.but not through the "dream of padme dying" sequence. Anakin could be drawn to power,and palpatine fulfils that need.the whole dying in childbirth was nonsense,she would have wanted to live for her children.people say palpatine used the force against her but it wasn't shown.princess liea remembered her mother.kylo ren kills his dad in cold blood and then they try to turn rey and kylo into a love story. Yuck.there are so many more problems with these sequels and prequels which is why they are so bad.
Alright somebody has to say it……..Star Wars as a franchise has been eating off the glaze of the first 3 movies for like 40 years. like 70% of the franchise is TRASH! OT sold the crappy Prequels OT sold the lazy/crappy Sequels
There are few things in the world that I despise as much as the new trilogy and its creators/abusers. The worst example of a despicable cash grab. An empty cold soulless product.
If Luke went out like obi wan what they wanted to do in New hope a actually fight. See something we couldn't back then in a way. After knowing that everyone got off world then giving up like obi wan did or similar. Clearly he couldn't beat him. Even still keep the force project trolling to buy extra time
Appreciate the attempt. But you understand fragments of what happened. Between the actual lore, disservices to the story, as well as Disney’s mishaps during pre production. One solid thing you understood is George is a visionary before a director, but that’s really it. So all in all, no. you did not crack the da Vinci code sir.
TFA shots itself in the foot when it didn’t have actual Jedi mentor to fight Kylo ren and the explanation how Rey can fight him is dumb and cheating basically she pretty much download every skill that Kylo ren has in the torture room the writer just rip off the Matrix.
Relax dude. Revenge on the sith is peak and also my favorite of the saga the last fight might have been like a chinese fight movie dance but for me it was awesome when i saw that as a kid and to this day. Of course, i made the mistake of watching a marathon in a chronological way😂 thinking that episodes 4 through 6 were newer than 1 through 3
As soon as u showed padmae and said shes a great character i immediately thought u were ganna say cause shes hot, then u said cause of what she represents to Anakin. Then i thought "wow". Then u said shes also really hot😂😂i thought to soon ig
As a star wars fan, am going to give you my opinion on ep8(sense it's the main focus of the video and every other opinion is fine). I feel the movie is ass apart from kylo, were your opinion is fine(exept on the hole "join me" moment, as we'v seen this before). All other characters are bad, the pasing is awfull, ans it's so out of character for luke to trie to kill ben, when he spared his maniac father, and then does nothing about his nefu's situation despite being responsable. And his death is so unworthy. I don't mind luke diyng, but him diyng after saving his friends through skype and then getting replaced by this lame ass characters is my problem. But over all, good video👍
the clone wars show does a much better job of making anakin likable and improves on the romance with padme by so much compared to the movies that it honestly makes the movies look worse.
They had a PLETHORA of good books to pull source from and refused to imo 🤷♂️ I loved it as a kid but it's cinematic verse is trash compared to the books that were made in between the movies.. just give me the darth bane trilogy already 😭
Funny you say cult thing as a kid I made an episode 7 and I had it as a kid that was bully an addicted to the dark side stories cuz he wanted the power and later he learns to use the force
@Zaffy My friend you and I can agree on revenge of the sith being the best prequel movie Love empire strikes back and a new hope return of the jedi I like didn't like the Ewoks but other then that it was good and for the prequels Obviously revenge of the Sith best film of the prequels attack of the clones and phantom menace not really liking those much now the sequel trilogy Force awakens was good it set everything up beautifully. then it fails with the later 2 films they have good moments but other then that not good
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Revenge of the sith is my favourite star wars movie I can't lie
I can’t decide between ROTJ and ROTS.
You know what, no. Return Of The Jedi is my favorite, but Revenge Of The Sith is my second favorite.
It’s literally the best one.
The 3rd and 6th movies really are peak star wars
@@LeolaTheElfI agree. I love ROTJ the most when I was a little kid
Empire Strikes Back is my favorite
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I don't mind Luke drying, what I hate is that they assassinated his character. Alien animal boobs green milk sloping down the beard, throw the lightsaber away, mope about like a whiny loser, don't take accountability for your actions, try to assassinate a kid for no reason, the most OPTIMISTIC person in the galaxy reduced to a snivvling depressed scrub. Hel, I don't even mind some of the things they did to Luke, but they did them so poorly.
1. Luke lost his optimism? Make it so that galaxtic politics wore him down or something.
2. Luke slupin on alien animal titty milk? Okay, don't go that far, but make him kinda like Yoda if necessary. A little eccentric, but not a moron.
3. Throwing the lightsaber away? Luke could have thrown it away to symbolize that the past shouldn't weight you down as an unexpected action Rey wouldn't have anticipated. But they made him throw it away in disgust instead.
4. Luke did basically NOTHING. He could have done at least SOMETHING. Make a contingency here, a plan there, etc...
5. He could accept that he's tired of the galaxy, but don't make him a loser because of it.
6. He NEVER should have tried to kill Rylo Ken, that's just NOT his character. Did he learn NOTHING from Vader?!?! MAYBE they could have explained it by like, Snoke or another darksider (not palpy) doing some kind of ritual to try and weaken the strongest Jedi in the galaxy in a gambit to get him to retreat from the galaxy so they can try to take over the new republic or something.
7. He became mega depresso for literally no reason. It's dumb.
I agree with this video, however you can’t blame the fans for dogshit writing. We all saw their low iq before last movie and we all saw the agenda being driven. So what do you expect when the fanbase goes to shit when you have a 2 movies that directly contradict eachother before the third act of the sequels. It’s tragic, not the fans fault.
The problem with Kylo is that he is a LITERAL ripoff of Jason Solo from legends and what was the OG sequels
a poorly written rip off of jason. disney takes concepts from legends and does them poorly because they hire hack writers who dont understand the property, its themes, and characters.
@crystalbluepartain3434 Hit the nail on the head. I'm so tired of people blaming fans for stupid shit that Corporations, and bought out studios do. How do we live in a day and age where people will literally bitch at people for being unsatisfied with a shitty product that was once good?
Not quite. Jaycen Solo pursued the Force based on the old systems, because the Prophecy of Mortis/The Chosen One wasn't a thing yet. Kylo does pursue the magic of the Sith, but it's not quite what it was during the Imbalance and Rule of Two, and he has a couple of new spells instead (Stasis, Sleep, Pry Mind).
But eventually he realizes that he can't compete with Rey, she is the bigger fish that will destroy him, and maybe because she isn't trying to follow a broken pattern. And he thinks the Emperor's power is the only thing left, that might still save him. But there is that "Magic Kiss" spell, we don't really know what does, but it seemed to focus Finn's Force affinity, to make him better with his Battlecry spell.
Lucas said those aren't canon
@@tn420animations9 Those books were always meant to be the placeholders if George ever decided to do the sequels. The cannon has always been, books and comics, tv and video games, then the movies at the top.
Revenge of the sith is my favorite
Agree , revenge of the sith is the best star wars movie
16:23 "awesome fight scene"😐gang the red guards literally attack each other or spin and fall back for no reason..... One of the worst fight scenes in cinema
correct. Looked beautiful from a cinematic glance. The color and contrast. Then you start to notice that the they are all doing a dance on stage choreographed by some amateur. Most unrealistic fight scene in Star wars history.
The orignal script from what I've heard for Rise of Skywalker would've kept Kylo as the main villain, and Palpatine would've only appeared in a hologram record message.Finn supposed to have more focus, leading all these ex-troopers. So we could've got 3 separate groups. Now I think what could've been cool too, if General Hux would've raised his own little army to go against Kylo, who, as you also mentioned, wanted to do his own thing, while Hux pretty much wanted to repeat the whole empire thing.
I think for the ending, I would've done somehting like, Anakin's ghost appearing, and convinces Kylo to stop, or maybe he could've appeared multiple times, so it doesn't come off as random.I still don't know how they could've explained the empire returning, or Kylo turning evil, or Luke just abandoning everyone.
I saw videos about the old books, and some had these insectoid beings with psionic powers or something, and they came from a different galaxy, and every faction, including the empire united against them I think, so maybe they could've done something like that.Maybe they worked from the shadows to cause chaos so these characters would've killed each other, so that when they'd arrive, they'd have an easier job.Or I dunno.
"Order 69" LMFAO I'm dead AF 🤣
Return of the Jedi is my favourite Star Wars film, but i definitely cannot discount the fact that it is an excellent summation of the two prior films work.
Dying Darth Vader to Luke:
"Let me look at you, with my own eyes"
Man chokes me up everytime. Its so much more than a literal statement, its a metaphor for repealing all of his (Vader's) ideologies.
People keep saying that a character is written badly but they never go into detail on why.
what character would you like to know is terrible/ This should be very easy to explain
(17:10) Brother I hate to be "that star wars guy" but this point is irrelevant. The whole "join men, fuck the sith." Has already been done like three times in the original six films way better. Count Dooku asked Obiwan, Anakin asked Padme, and Vader Asked Luke. It's not original at all, and it's not subverting anything. Kilo is STILL trying desperately to be Vader and failing.
true, it would be fun to see what happens when a jedi actually accepts (out of their own free will,not manipulated like Anakin) and the goal isn't to rule the galaxy
@Cinemavigilante That's how 90% of turning to the dark side works. The dark side is literally a metaphor for the nature of Evil, balance in the force isn't 50 light 50 dark. That's some retarded Disney invention. Balance is the absence of evil. Peace in the galaxy. Most people are not born evil. As most sith and Darksiders do not actually start out evil like Palpatine did. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be a prick, but I'm so tired of people making these arguments. But I do appreciate you understanding how on a basic movie making level these movies suck.
I don't feel like that's a reasonable comparison. We know Dooku became Sith, even though he didn't want to, so Obi-Wan was right in not following him. Padmé was a Senator for a recovering system, she wasn't a powerhouse in any sense, so what is she supposed to join Anakin in? Vader specifically said: "You. Dark Side. Emperor. Killed." And Luke said Nuh uh, and Vader died of Big Sad, like his wife.
Kylo said: "Idk what the fck you are, but can you NOT murder me, please?"
Funny cause the line “Somehow Palpatine returned” aged pretty well now.
My favorite thing about star wars has to be bounty hunters, smugglers, and shady dealings.
Love your take on Star Wars, and thank you for your opinion on it👍👍👍👍
Vader was legit playing with Luke in that fight scene. He already knew who Luke was. But Vader being Vader he didn't hold back to much by the end. Literally fighting Luke one handed. Lvl 1 Jedi Vs Lvl 20 Sith Lord.
Rian Johnson is behind it all. He broke the fandom with his movie.
The Nooooo didn't ruin it like bro he just put on a voice modulator and machine body. He probably screamed and the machine just got noooo from it. It's haunting cause it's him wailing the loss of his love and his body his way of life
Revenge of the sith is such an amazing climax like the movie is awesome fights, drama, music and characters. Just so good what a mic drop
you are the uberboyo of movie reviews.😂
Nice to hear a take from someone who's not steeped in the lore. However, the biggest problem with Revenge of the Sith is the turn. Anakin doesn't kill younglings and expect a pregnant Padme to be like "we need milk." 🤷
The fight scene in ROTS is one of the best sword fights ever put to film.
Shad did a three hour dissection of it
I loosely followed star wars all my life and I'll be honest it is cool sometimes but it has alot if wasted time, trashy characters and boring stuff.
nah man the originals are classic you gotta rewatch em in a different way cuz those movies were wholesome as hell and the story had heart idk how to explain it fr theyre good movies tho especially ep5 and 6
I guarantee, Star Wars fans werent just mad at the sequels cause of the characters! The issue was SOLELY AND FIRSTLY the writing. The problems with the characters was one thing but the the plot, story, lack of cohesion and true plan for the story is what upset people.
As someone who is a huge Star Wars fan, I highly agree with you. Even tho I will admit Episode 1 and 2 aren’t that great of movies, I personally still love them because they still have that George Lucas feel to it.
And surprisingly I also Agree with you about the Disney Movies. I feel like The Force Awakens should have ended with Kylo Ren winning, and the 2nd movie be about Rey and Fin looking for Luke Skywalker, and the Three of them go after Snoke and Kylo. They could have also kept the same ending where Snoke kills Luke and Snoke tell Kylo to finish Rey, but instead, Kylo kills Snoke, then we get that “join me line” etc.
And the 3rd movie Would be able Rey, Finn, and a small group of others going after Kylo and his Knights of Ren Cult members
6:35 There are 2 things that never get old:
-the youngling jokes
-the younglings.
You channelled Werner Hertzog for a moment there 😂
I don’t think Revenge of the Sith being the favourite would be an unpopular opinion.
Hey, the fans aren't to blame for anything because they wanted different. It was Disney and Abrams that wanted to play things safe because THEY assumed that's what the fans wanted so we got the soft reboot/rehash. Rian wanted to things different and I commend him for that, but it came about at the wrong time which is why TLJ fails to an extent. Abrams then wanted Palpatine to be the overarching baddie by the end of the trilogy because he was such in the original and prequel trilogies and it just makes sense. I DO wish he handled his return better and not made it so brush and that Palpatine as a clone had more to do than be stuck in one location like in Return of the Jedi. Frankly, a sequel trilogy wasn't needed at all. I think we just needed one epilogue movie to wrap up both trilogies that showcased the start of the New Republic and generation of warriors that's both a Jedi/Sith hybrid and call it a day from there.
My only problem with 17:30 is that unfortunately we NEVER get to hear from Kylo what his actual aspirations are outside of wanting to be the same as his grandad.
he has “depth” but ultimately it’s as deep as him just wanting a girlfriend while ruling the galaxy, which is essentially what anakin wanted with Padme.
So it’s more of the same thing, but imo, delivered in a worse way.
At least with Anakin we had a bit of build up and could assume what he wanted to turn the galaxy into, albeit from a darker origin
Idk what Kylos struggles were outside of him being pulled towards the light and killing his dad,(amongst likely other people he’s killed).
He just doesn’t seem like a well put together antagonist turned good guy
But ironically he is the most layered character out of all of the new bunch and that’s sayin somethin lol
Actually, Star Wars is suspiciously similar to original DUNE. Just reshaped
I love your take on Kylo. I was telling people the same thing. The fact that he's unstable and vulnerable. It makes for good writing and possibilities. I thought they were gonna use it! The Sith and the Jedi joining forces was like the only new and interesting thing this series couldve done. Missed opportunities all around. Don't get me started on Fin & Rey. But that, it's the fan's fault I don'tunderstand. 1st, most of the Disney Star Wars movies were disliked by EVERYONE. Second, the fans are saying exactly what you are saying here. No one is saying they wanted just the old shit Maybe the brain dead ones who jizz when they hear a lightsaber. You've mentioned this before, it's the recycling of past movie plots, that's Disney bro, thats all they got. They've been doing that since The Force Awakens. The fans just wanted good Star Wars.
During the third movie at the end where he screams for padme I couldn't help but burst out in laughter in the theater so out of place😂😂😂😂
Obviously I have disagreement but I really respect you putting this out here. Barely anyone hasn't seen these movies so it's super cool hearing a fresh perspective, great job and very nice editing!
Hoo boy. Sorry for the rant. I hope you read it though, it's not very angry.
About Luke. You're not wrong, his death was reviled. But I think you missed two details here.
First, it was him walking into Ben's room. After he was asleep. Going through his thoughts. Then taking out his lightsaber. That last part, honestly, isn't even the worst in this sequence. It's the fact that he was there to begin with.
The second major issue is that Luke did not successfully reestablish the Jedi Order. He failed. Epically.
I don't know how much you heard about the expanded universe while dipping your toes in Star Wars. What Disney now call Legends. That was like 40 years of novels, games, comics, radio dramas, and lore books that many of us read and followed along. It got convoluted times, and many of the pre-2002 works didn't realize that the Clones fought for the Republic. But it had some excellent moments, and one of those things was the legacy of the legacy characters. Luke rebuilt the order from almost scratch, and Leia did the same for the Republic. Both institutions survive the turmoils and trials. They don't become this bloated paper tiger for villains to destroy in one button-push. And that's what many of us really hate. Guess who's doing the reconstruction this time round? Rey. They even called her upcoming series the New Jedi Order, which was the name of a long saga of the EU. Maybe one of the best, if controversial. It featured Luke's niece and nephew, Jaina, Jacen, and Anakin (who dies). In that order. They were great kids and worthy successors. Jaina was who we wanted Rey to live up to, and Jacen, Kylo Ren. These characters came into their own without the deaths of Luke, Han, and Leia. Chewie dies though. And it's the most tragic scene ever. Everyone needs a moment after that. So I think you're wrong that Luke shouldn't have survived the sequel trilogy. Instead he died, and having not accomplished what should've been his magnum opus.
But yeah, it's not his death that got under my skin.
By the way, you missed the best part of TLJ. Rey "Nobody." The new hero not being part of some dynasty was a really cool move. Blew my mind when I saw it. They should've stuck the landing on that one, made her a person with no name. Not Palpatine, not even Skywalker. Just Rey.
I don't think it was because Luke got killed off (I was pretty satisfied with how he went out), it was because the rest of Luke's appearance was an angry grumpy old man who drank green milk.
People were so excited about seeing Luke in action again & seeing this broken old man wasn't what most fans I imagine were looking forward to.
Another problem with the film I had was Capt. Phantasma. She was a really built up character & the clash between her & Finn was underwhelming.
It weird to me. The Jedi Order basically abduct kids to train them for their whole lives, and only so many of them become competent at fighting the Sith. Then Luke goes on a 4 months bootcamp, and he's expected to be Yoda, and rebuild the Jedi system from the ground up, during Balance?
He was obviously used, in the best case scenario by fate. It's not strange, that he became disillusioned.
And he's drinking Green Milk, pretending that it does the same as Blue Milk, so he can explain where all his Force powers went away to. And he won't have to admit, that he's probably dead (Dark Side Ghosts tend to be stuck in a specific location).
Maybe there's something curse related with Finn and Phasma - he couldn't kill her, but he had been opened to become a hand puppet/battery pack for Rey. Maybe the witch kiss changed that in some way.
14:03 your good most people with brain can understand that she would totally lose that fight it makes no sense in the lore at all.
I agree...somewhat
The Main reason is that they changed the story around the woman
Fantastic channel homie.
10:31 we do agree with you more than you think in fact
14:21 no no we agree she is a Mary Sue, noone even if they have the best genes, needs training to be able to fight properly. Like Luke is the son of the chosen one and he needed 3 movies worth of training to be a decent jedi.
19:11 no that in fact was the problem and not his death by itself. That and his bad characterisation throughout the movie
I disagree with the point that it's the fans' fault. In my experience, the vast majority of other star wars fans aren't focused on the sequels being different than the older movies. It's that they bastardized and disrespected the lessons and character arcs that those characters went through to make them who they are. I knew it was a good possibility that Luke was going to die when they started making the sequels. My hope was that they would do his character justice. Not only did they not do his death justice, but they butchered his character entirely from the start. Luke skywalker was the didnt back down or give in to the dark side. He was the only one that had the conviction and compassion enough to finally bring Anakin back to the light, despite all the pain, manipulation, and suffering brought on his own actions and that of Palpatine's influence. And yet we're supposed to believe that the same Luke Skywalker would not only run away from the fight for peace, but now be so weak to impulse that he'd raise his lightsaber to his own nephew??? This is the man that defied all in order to stick by his father's side til the end, even if it meant laying down his weapon and being at the mercy of Sidious. And now he's in a much kess intense situation, and suddenly cant handle a misguided fear about Ben? Ridiculous.
The sequels didnt need to be just like the original or prequel trilogies. They just needed to respect them and build upon them into new territory based on how these characters and new one's would continue to grow after all their experiences and encounters with new threats. Disney has slapped us in the face with how little they care about the franchise.
Besides that though, a lot of you conceptions of the films with super spot on. Revenge of the Sith is my favorite star wars film, personally, so it's nice to hear somebody not hating on it yet again lol. I enjoyed episode 1 and 2 also, but I completely understand the criticisms. The dialogue can definitely be clunky
3:29 finally, someone says it. especially empire strikes back that is the most overhyped film i've seen for fantasy. i get it, i understand why, but it's so overhyped that so many star wars fans are so blinded by it that they only see that film just like how dark knight fans will say christopher nolan's trilogy is the greatest batman films ever, but only acknowledge dark knight and that's it
absolutely they gas lit us. Im done with Disney. Unsubscribed 8 months ago. After Ashoka was such a disappointment
Might you read the novelizations or play Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga?
It is stupid no way she should have won against kylo first time. Like makes no sense regardless of her force potential or force powers. If she lost and barely got away from him and have that defeat affect rey moving forward
I was born in 1982. Return of the Jedi is my Stars Wars; Ewoks and all. Luke told Jabba release my friend or they’ll be hell to pay. Jabba chose the latter.
I think they should have did a ex stormtrooper turned Jedi story it would have been more interesting to me tbh
For somebody who's not a Star Wars fan this was one of most insightful takes on the whole series. Glad you liked Ep 3 it was my first ever DVD and still my fav episode
I used to be a die hard Star Wars fan, but I actually agree with you about the last Jedi
BUT to me, the reason why I hate the movie is the treatment of Luke. Nothing else
The way he didn’t get a redemption arc, died of a heart attack.
AND the follow up movie didn’t redeem him either..
Rogue One gave me so much hope… Sigh, it wasn’t a New Hope…😢
2:40 this scene doesn't REALLY retcon the one from the og trilogy just cuz vader was still kinda new to the whole vader thing i didn't watch the show so idk how much time had passed since mustafar but from ep3 to ep4 was almost 30 yrs into vader
facts with the prequels tho i only ever liked episode 3 the transitions for all those movies were so goofy and the scenes were the length of an incredible hulk ps3 cutscene 🤦♂️
You somehow missed the fact that Kylo was made the main villain after losing to Rey twice. It felt like a bad joke since he’s no threat to Rey. Also blaming fan backlash for them writing palpatine back in is ridiculous, they could’ve simply written a halfway decent conclusion with the trashfire The Last Jedi left.
the producers are low iq as i mentioned
I said the same thing that it should have been a cult aka the knights of ren, instead of them being throwaway nothing villians. Kylo's offer to Ray would have been compelling if the cliffhanger was her saying yes to him, contrasting Luke's no to Vader in empire. It's not the fans fault though the writers wrote garbage. The fanbase would give them good ideas if they'd listen. I guarantee NO fan would say yes to Palpatine returning.
Don´t mean to argue or dissagre with Mr Sir Zaffy here. But as touching upon "Mary Sue" issue (wich at the time before part VII I never heard about that thing), an interresting thing I read about The last jedi, before it came out, was that Luke was actually ment to be a woman (first draft of the script and also some arts where done). As for the last 3 (outside Rouge One - whom I liked) I kind a like them; Mainly becouse the effects - yes I didn´t have any higher hopes or expectation on neither. I really enjoy all these videos and the idea on "how the movie should have been". Keep telling it how you see it.
Luke could have died saving someone, or several someones, and he got replaced by 😴 💩
The new Jedi order was way better, it was actually something new, crazy powerful aliens, gangs etc, but having sith again is boring, dark Jedi would’ve made more sense
Your constructive criticism is really welcoming.
Star wars has way more complicated issues behind the scenes. No joke either, and you hit the nail on the head.
The sequel trilogy was a train wreck. I would've preferred a brand new story but we got this mess.
With how it's being milked now, Star Wars either needs to go away for a long time (no movies or shows) and stick to books and comics or just be left behind in the past.
The original trilogy was great, prequel was okay till the third film. But the sequels were not handled well at all.
Star Wars is a fun escape but its not that important at the end of the day.
I grew up seeing the original trilogy in theaters and even as a kid, the attraction was more about the cool creatures, spaceships, weapons, etc than any genuine interest in the story or lore. The original definitely had better written characters though. Going forward from the originals, i found the movies either boring or mildly entertaining. Bad writing is the true dark side
Awesome fight scene in the red room? lol
people are crazy i tell ya
Just came across your channel, so it's probably creating some buzz in the algo for whatever reason.
I first found it fascinating how, apparently without being familiar with the lore or the fandom, you came to between 80%-90% of the same conclusions that I've seen most Star Wars fans come to about the Disney sequels. Which made it very disappointing to me when you laid the failure of the Rise of Skywalker at *their feet.*
As a Star Wars fan:
1. I agree with you that the issue wasn't that the old characters were killed off. That's acceptable. But there's a right way to do it, and bringing them in to have them do very little and then die came off as a bait and switch. In fact, their inclusion at all was a bait and switch to the actors themselves, who believed they were coming back to a film directed by George Lucas. What angered me the most wasn't that they died, it was that they were *squandered.* And, as some others have acknowledged, their character progression and achievements were all basically assassinated of undermined. Luke was such a revolutionary Jedi, he managed to redeem Darth Vader, something probably almost no other Jedi would have believed possible. Luke faced the near certainty of his own death, and quite probably the deaths of all his friends, rather than fall into Palpatine's temptation. He was able to accomplish this because he shared a common trauma with his father, and had stared into the same abyss. Han Solo was a pragmatic and nihilistic mercenary, who was inspired by Luke and Leia to begin caring about the fate of the Galaxy. Having him traipsing about as a smuggler again felt wrong. Leia was probably assassinated the least, but because she had so little interaction with the other characters, or even screen time, before dying, it felt very disappointing.
2. Disney seemed only capable of aping the formula of Star Wars, without really understanding it, or vandalizing it as an act of vanity. When they should have instead built on what had been established, and progressed the story forward, they either forged a pale imitation, or entirely threw out character and lore for the sake of expedience. The Expanded Universe of Star Wars is incredibly vast, and spans 3+ decades of novels, comics, and videogames. They could have cherry picked the best possible ideas from that lore to explore in their sequels, and instead, they chose almost none of it, with the exception of what they could so grossly distort that they wouldn't be required to provide royalties.
3. One of the primary issues of the sequel Trilogy, beyond what I have already mentioned, is that they were absolutely miserable at setting up events that would later be paid off. Though I think there's plenty of blame to go around, it's pretty easy to see how much responsibility rests on JJ Abrams, whose idea of a set-up is something he establishes only to intrigue, with payoff being an afterthought. "Mystery Box" storytelling. And Rian Johnson, whose idea of payoff is to just do whatever you weren't expecting, with no thought to how logically it actually tracks with the broader context. The two of them, operating in tandem were like a match made in hell. JJ operating seemingly without a plan, and Rian serving to sabotage what Chekov's guns were incidentally provided. Together they so thoroughly eroded the organic foundations of the narrative, that by the third film, the story had been left with almost no compelling structural elements on which to stand. Captain Phazma was humiliated in the first film, then fell down a hole in the second (womp womp). Snoke was dead, Hux was a Joke, Kylo had been beaten and humiliated thrice over, and Rey was basically the most powerful Force user remaining in the Galaxy. Who cares if the Resistance had to flee with their tail tucked, they'd been saved by the person who had triumphed over basically every tangible obstacle so far, even without conscious intent, getting Kylo to kill the only Force user who may have conceivably been able to overpower her, just by *making him horny, I guess?* And then there's the Holdo Maneuver (hyperspace ramming) which effectively breaks one of the core features of Star Wars, the *space battles,* by being such an effective strategy that one is bewildered that anyone would ever use *anything else.*
4. In the Expanded Universe lore of the novels and comics, Leia was a major player in galactic politics, her and Han's children were pivotal to decades of major storylines, and Luke became the founder of a new order of Jedi Knights, whose own adventures filled vast volumes of their own with much drama and intrigue. Were all the stories good? No. But that presented an opportunity to Disney to strive to adapt the very best features of the EU, with the benefit of hindsight, into a unified cinematic universe. Instead we got a melty man in a gold bathrobe whose existence is never really explained beyond that I guess he was a weird clone or something. All the Skywalkers are dead. And there's basically no one left from legacy canon that anyone could care about except R2D2, C3PO, an aging Lando, and Chewbacca, characters who had previously received comparatively little development. And the hero's reward for beating the evil Empire was the Empire coming back and destroying almost everything they'd built. Imagine if episode 10-12 basically just did this again. Hey, here's a subversion, maybe have Kylo *survive,* unlike Vader. Imagine whatever is rebuilt from the Resistance having to contend with Rey over the fate of an ex-Sith war criminal. No? He's dead, too? Pity that. Everything is tied off in a neat little bow. Where do you even go from here?
Yeah, that's why I, a Star Wars fan, am annoyed. The prequel trilogy was disappointing too, but at least it *felt like Star Wars.* (You're absolutely right that George Lucas is awful at dialogue.)
Fair take
I would of loved if kylo was the main villain. I actually like last jedi.
The problem for me with revenge of the sith, is, what are they getting revenge for.the jedi didn't attack them or anything.where s the vengeance coming from.?and also the stakes in the fight scenes are low cos we already know how they both die.i would have liked R.O.S.to be about the rise of palpatine ( more indepth) his charisma and then his seducing of anakin.but not through the "dream of padme dying" sequence. Anakin could be drawn to power,and palpatine fulfils that need.the whole dying in childbirth was nonsense,she would have wanted to live for her children.people say palpatine used the force against her but it wasn't shown.princess liea remembered her mother.kylo ren kills his dad in cold blood and then they try to turn rey and kylo into a love story. Yuck.there are so many more problems with these sequels and prequels which is why they are so bad.
Good points, as always.
Alright somebody has to say it……..Star Wars as a franchise has been eating off the glaze of the first 3 movies for like 40 years. like 70% of the franchise is TRASH!
OT sold the crappy Prequels
OT sold the lazy/crappy Sequels
There are few things in the world that I despise as much as the new trilogy and its creators/abusers. The worst example of a despicable cash grab. An empty cold soulless product.
If Luke went out like obi wan what they wanted to do in New hope a actually fight. See something we couldn't back then in a way. After knowing that everyone got off world then giving up like obi wan did or similar. Clearly he couldn't beat him. Even still keep the force project trolling to buy extra time
You must do a video on the Lord of the Rings Prime TV series!
@@leefr76 already done one on that, might have to do an updated video
Appreciate the attempt. But you understand fragments of what happened. Between the actual lore, disservices to the story, as well as Disney’s mishaps during pre production.
One solid thing you understood is George is a visionary before a director, but that’s really it.
So all in all, no. you did not crack the da Vinci code sir.
Zaffy I feel like the sequel trilogy would've been better if George Lucas made it instead of Disney
It would’ve been worst
TFA shots itself in the foot when it didn’t have actual Jedi mentor to fight Kylo ren and the explanation how Rey can fight him is dumb and cheating basically she pretty much download every skill that Kylo ren has in the torture room the writer just rip off the Matrix.
@ 14:15 The writers didn't know that she was a Palpatine either lol. Thats all bs that JJ made up when he came back to try and "fix" the last movie. 😂
Relax dude. Revenge on the sith is peak and also my favorite of the saga the last fight might have been like a chinese fight movie dance but for me it was awesome when i saw that as a kid and to this day. Of course, i made the mistake of watching a marathon in a chronological way😂 thinking that episodes 4 through 6 were newer than 1 through 3
For someone who’s not into Star Wars, you sure watch a lot of Star Wars. Maybe you like them more than you think. Just saying! 🤷🏻♂️
What do you think of the current state of Doctor Who?
Pretty crap for the last few yrs from the little ive seen but im not a big dr who guy, liked matt smiths showing of the character alot tho
I feel like it took you a little too long to get into the video topic here even though the context of your opinion is nice to know
If you didn't create the character then you don't have the right to kill him. Simple as that.
Edit: Or resurrect him.
Yo Zaffy can you do some videos on Planet of the Apes.
will do
I may as well subscribe, here every week now.
couldn't have said it better!
6:41 sounds like Nathan from South Park.
As soon as u showed padmae and said shes a great character i immediately thought u were ganna say cause shes hot, then u said cause of what she represents to Anakin. Then i thought "wow". Then u said shes also really hot😂😂i thought to soon ig
As a star wars fan, am going to give you my opinion on ep8(sense it's the main focus of the video and every other opinion is fine). I feel the movie is ass apart from kylo, were your opinion is fine(exept on the hole "join me" moment, as we'v seen this before). All other characters are bad, the pasing is awfull, ans it's so out of character for luke to trie to kill ben, when he spared his maniac father, and then does nothing about his nefu's situation despite being responsable. And his death is so unworthy. I don't mind luke diyng, but him diyng after saving his friends through skype and then getting replaced by this lame ass characters is my problem. But over all, good video👍
7:26 nope, i will join you, because it is. it is the best one.
rogue one is cool but 7/8/9 solo , mando , andor obi-wan alcoolyc & other is just a big lot of shitt !
the clone wars show does a much better job of making anakin likable and improves on the romance with padme by so much compared to the movies that it honestly makes the movies look worse.
and this is coming from some one who loves the prequels.
cant like. rise of skywalker is like the only star wars movie i watched like one or 2 times after seeing it in theater. .. i was kind of board somehow
They had a PLETHORA of good books to pull source from and refused to imo 🤷♂️ I loved it as a kid but it's cinematic verse is trash compared to the books that were made in between the movies.. just give me the darth bane trilogy already 😭
You should give something called babylon 5 a watch. It's like star trek and star wars, but better.
Even with everything that they have done to the franchise 😢 the sad part is all will be forgiven for want of a good story 😢😂
I left when you said you weeent a Star Wars fan, you’re more of a Smallville fan … smfh😔
Yeah.. the new trilogy doesn't exist in my book.. complete garbage.. or any of the new disney Star Wars crap..
Funny you say cult thing as a kid I made an episode 7 and I had it as a kid that was bully an addicted to the dark side stories cuz he wanted the power and later he learns to use the force
Dude you totally gotta do a Smallville video now 😁😂🤘🔥
@@roderick8167 planning on it
@@Cinemavigilante Awesome
@Zaffy
My friend you and I can agree on revenge of the sith being the best prequel movie Love empire strikes back and a new hope return of the jedi I like didn't like the Ewoks but other then that it was good and for the prequels Obviously revenge of the Sith best film of the prequels attack of the clones and phantom menace not really liking those much now the sequel trilogy Force awakens was good it set everything up beautifully. then it fails with the later 2 films they have good moments but other then that not good
Cool another Smallville fan
U need to watch the substance if u haven't
Great movie
Not even clone wars? That shit was 🔥
@@hectron6557 ive heard amazing things
Attack of the clones! ‘May not the most accurate dialogue the CGI, Hayden act plot details but it is story through prequel era to the Original era ❤🌟💥🥈🥉🎗️🏅🎖️🏵️🎟️🎭🎼🎹🥁🎲🎺🎮🎷✅.
Except Sequel Disney SW KK trilogy ❌💢🚫📵🖕💩🤡👻👽💸”
Star wars I bloody hate.