Give it time. Once they iron out the engineering side of their products when it comes to high end discreet graphics cards things will change (hopefully).
@daedalus6433 yea, and so will the 5080 and 5090. 600 for a 4080 performance is still an awesome deal if it's that price. And will see how much better the 5080 will be compared to the 4080. If it's 10% better than pffff, I'm def going for the 9070xt.
14:35 that's not a good justification for the 4060 having less VRAM than the 3060, because it's not like they increased the memory bus width from 192-bit in the 3060, to 256-bit in the 4060. Nah man, they decreased it from 192-bit to 128-bit and then gave us 8GB VRAM 4060. They cheaped out on both the VRAM and the memory bus width, resulting overall lower memory bandwidth than the 3060 which is just laughable.
4060 and 5060 are 50-class cards. 4070/5070 are specwise successors of the 3060. 4070ti is the first real 70-class, but way more expensive and was planned as the 4080.
Apart from lack of VRAM the 4060 is consistently faster than 3060 even if the card have less bandwidth. 750Ti for example have significantly less bandwidth but it did not prevent the card to perform just as fast as GTX480.
The leaks show its marginally better than the 7900 GRE in raster, which was going for 480 before they stopped production a week or two ago. This is 7900 GRE V2 with RT of 7900XT. The only way they get away with a 500 dollar release price, is if 5070 is 650+.
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br AMD themselves said they want market share. But you are right lol they will still do their shit method of pricing a bit lower than NVIDIA. Then lower it slowly after months of bad reviews.
Bro!!!! Scalpers did the same thing with McRib Sauce!!!!! Lmaoo 😂😂 McDonald’s was selling a gallon on McRib sauce now you can only find em on eBay for $200 lmfaoooo
@김재-d1t the 2080 launched in 2018 at $699 so 30% increase puts it around 900? Come on don't make excuses for the huge companies who don't care about anything but money.
Inflation is the biggest bs excuse. Companies rised prices with covid where demand was higher than the supply and after covid these prices are the new standard to max the markup… Companies just discovered what apple already did….
Gamer are broke. Gpu maker are going after the semi pro crowd that willing to pay more. Hence why AMD ditch gaming oriented RDNA for compute centric UDNA.
? No one is selling 4080 perf for $500. AMD don't have to do shit at that price and perf. All they have to do is undercut the NVIdia 5070 at it's price. 7900GRE-7900XT raster perf and 4070TIish RT perf will sell like hotcakes if they price that at $500-$600.
Oh. Interesting. In my country the cheapest 4080 is $1100, and it seems to be fine to you, but at the same time AMD needs to provide same perf for $500 or it is useless?
I'm guessing $699 for the 9070xt. As much as I prefer team red, they always price their cards just a little too high to actually sell a bunch of them. If they could hit $499, they'd sell like hot cakes! They won't, but it's fun to pretend.
My old pc broke a month ago, and this is why I chose not to wait for the 50 series and just get a high end system with the 40 series. Maybe I’ll regret it, maybe not. Prices are way too unpredictable
@@Veganarchy-Zetetic I’m just saying in terms of pricing. It sucks but the same thing happened to me. If you NEED a computer though, get one for sure lol 😂 But if you’re close to a new release and you CAN wait….id say wait
@@Veganarchy-Zetetic i would just buy a used gpu to use for a month to two months, and then sell it after buying one of the upcoming ones lol. 6650/6700xt etc.
Who wants to bet that even the cards that make it into the country before an tariff increase, don't also get their price marked up if and when said increase happens. They'll just pocket that money, thinking thank-you-very-much.
I'm still not convinced 9070XT is the top tier product. Remember the 6800XT launch, AMD sent 6800XT dies to all the board partners so they could create their third-party cooler designs, and AMD correctly assumed the AIB partners would be bad at keeping secrets - so it got leaked that 6800XT was the top tier product and similar to a 3080 in performance. Then 6900XT was a surprise announcement. If 9070XT really is a 16GB card, I can't see that as the top product this generation from Team Red.
It makes sense that they'll focus on a mid range card first though. Thats where the majority of gamers buy. But i do agree i think we'll see a higher range card eventually this gen.
@@Macheako Are you on crack? The 6800 XT had near identical raster performance to the 3080. Go look at Gamers Nexus' old benchmark video of the 6800 XT.
@@Macheako Somebody's been drinking the Jensen kool aid... 6800xt was ALWAYS a competitor to the 3080. For $50 less, you got 6GB more VRAM and pretty much identical raster performance.
Are the tariffs really the problem or is having an industry completely and totally reliant on outsourcing the real problem? What if they just decided to not make them for us anymore or if they decided to double the price?
Tariffs across the board are incredibly stupid. Its a stupid policy idea but the guy pushing it clearly has no idea how tariffs work (given his comments) so theres a high chance they actually happen.
@geebster. I could see an inkling of the idea being helpful, but blanket tarrifs like he's talking about are horrible lol. It would need to be targeted tarrifs to do anything and even then; still makes that item more expensive
@@geebster. He was empowered by people who have no idea how they work as well and clearly forgot why he lost his job 4 years ago. Buy your hardware now and insulate yourself from stupid people because they will be learning a lesson soon.
Brett tries sssooooo hard not to be biased towards any team/camp. No one should care if its red, green, or blue as long as the product has a good performance to price point!
Speaking of tariffs..for everyone fortunate enough to get a PS5 Slim or Pro- but held off on the disc drive because they didn't want to pay $120-$160 or more - Best Buy has them right now for order at the retail price. I wouldn't be surprised if that $120 scalper price becomes the normal price...after the tariffs kick in..
I will believe that 5% performance diff compared to a 4080 when I see some benchmarks. Until then, the 7900gre level of performance is staying my assumption
Terrans Force is responding, but how are we supposed to beat back the Zerg and the Protoss if we go bankrupt in just buying the PC and its components? Also, thanks for the numbers, but you didn't answer the all-important-task: "Can it run Crysis?"
Ive been watcving GPU prices like a hawk the last month and i havent seen ANY drop below MSRP here in Canada. Its such BS man like if they dropped even a single one of them by $100 theyd have a sale from me. What idiot would spend full MSRP on something thatd about to be replaced by new tech in a month, i just dont understand.
Simple supply and demand. They see an opportunity/excuse to raise the price, so they raise it to what the market will bear... Unfortunately, the market is more willing than myself to spend a down payment on a car for non-essential, luxury items that are considered out-dated within a year. Gotta vote with your wallet, and hope others do the same.
hey, do you have any news about the prices of the b580 in the eu ? The cheapest b580 in Poland is 320$ and its the sparkle one, the cheapest limited edition b580 is 400$.
In all likelihood the rumor of tariffs will already have been reflected in an increase in pricing. AMD and Nvidia both have the same opportunity to pad pricing a bit citing this as a response to oncoming tariffs. In the meantime the rush to release before tariffs will be because all of that buffer they put on top of the price tag is just extra margins until tariffs actually go into effect. Pricing may likely still increase after actual tariffs are implemented since they could low ball the extra headroom they will need, but I'd be skeptical that even just the rumor of tariffs hasn't already increased the price points they were planning.
Take into account that the 9950X has a price of €749.90.... I imagine that the X3D version will be launched at an absurd €950... I'm sure someone will buy them.
I was struggling trying to remember what the channel name was because it's just a meaningless initialism to me. UHD Tech? DNF Tech? I had to do way too much digging to find UF Disciple, but the UF part is still a mystery to me. Please don't tell me it's University of Florida, that would be so unbelievably cheesy.
I honestly might just go for a 7900xt at this point. Regardless of the performance if its gre or near 4080 level, I dont have high hopes for the pricing. And seeing 7900xt around 650~ its looking like a hard deal to pass up on. Plus, the new gpus are probably getting scalped and resold hundreds over msrp anyway if the intel release was any indicator.
I don't think we're all VRAM constrained, definitely memory bus constrained with lower VRAM models these days. No AMD, a bit of extra cache does not make up for the loss in available data transfer rate to GPU memory
I'm planning on buying a RX 7800 XT Should I wait for the RX 9070 XT to drop first? Will that decrease the 7800 XT's price? Also will availability for the 7800 XT remain normal?
@@GreyDeathVaccine The only circumstance where the 7800 XT drops in price is if the 9070 XT gets priced at ~500 USD yah? It’ll be better performance for an equal price then wouldn’t it? So it’s really all dependent on what AMD decides to put as the price tag Thank you for your insight
@@eyadayman04 Depends on how badly you need an upgrade and if you're willing to wait. Personally if I dont need to upgrade (i.e I don't have some job that requires an upgrade, I'm not ITCHING to play a game) I'd just wait.
@@toad7395 Totally! I’m in no rush, I’m building the PC part by part where I get a component or two every month, by the rate I’m going I’ll finish around March. So I can just get another component for the time being instead. My only concern is stock availability really, I don’t want to be faced with a situation where prices have soared up because mid tier GPUs don’t become abundant anymore but at the same time I want to get the 7800 XT for as low as possible given that new gen will be out soon. In any case it seems waiting will either do me good or do me no harm I suppose. Thanks, I appreciate your reply.
Just note the 8700g is a bad CPU in gaming, since it only has 16 MB L3 cache, and buying a cheaper CPU like the 7500f or the 7600 with a GPU would be alot faster in gaming
@kristianlund2913 no it's not. Its an apu that can run ray traced games like indiana jones. On top of that the cpu is hardly any different in many games than the ryzen 7600
My man, I just got a 9800X3D and a Intel B580. I can afford a high end gpu, and I had a RTX4090. Why did I switch to a budget gpu made by Intel? Cause I want to make a statement, FU** Nvidia and AMD.
9:55 - Is that why? ...wasn't it because the head of EVGA wanted more family time or something but, for whatever reason didn't just hire someone else to help run EVGA for his 'more familytime'?
Seeing "Granite Ridge" looks more like an Intel code name for a CPU core than an AMD code name. Seems to follow the same logic with the new Rx 9070 XT GPU, making it sound like an Nvidia GPU. I love you AMD but please stop confusing the normies.
according to kopite7kimi the 5090 is way les than the 2k mark after he replied to a tweet from someone saying its gonna be 2k-2.5k and he said its gonna be expensive than 4090 but just a little and hinted at 1799. Also true that Jensen seems to change his mind on stage right before he says what the price is.
Low probability but I'm hoping for new entry level CPUs on AM5 , the 8400f and 8500g are bad and the interesting 7500F is "Asia only" (and the prices are up ) .
Please don't say that the 1060 is as fast as the 970. The 1060 is as fast or even sometimes faster than the 980. I am still using my 1060 and i am waiting for the next gen but what i am most afraid is about it having 8gb vram. According to leaks the Rtx 5080 is gonna cost 1700 USD. Holy shit man, i don't know what i am gonna do.
what's the story with the other 8 cores on the 9950x3d...are they going to be full power or wimpy ones. I have a 9800x3d and love it but would jump on a 9950x3d IF all cores run at full speed/power and there's more fps in games like Battlefield 2042, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 and other titles that use all of the cores well
Tariffs are needed to make the companies (especially Nvidia since it's a US company) to build their products in America. TSMC was founded by a man who took the knowledge he gained in the US and undercut the US based companies that did the same exact thing woth cheap labor we all know and resent in China.
Brett, I know this falls under something one of my old sociology professors used to rail against, "The Study of One". But I'd like to counter your argument with, "not everyone who buys the crappier cards from nVidia doesn't know about vram and overclocking." I'm currently rocking an ASUS RTX 3050 (8GB) because of financial constraints, it was on sale, and my kid happened to be in LA near a microcenter at the time. I built a new rig last year (Nov 2023) and bought parts piecemeal over the span of two months. But my budget back then didn't allow me to buy a new card for the new build, so the 3050 got carried over. (More storage and better RAM was much less than a new graphics card, so what little I had went to that.) And while I tend to build systems that can be overclocked, I tend not to overclock. I don't play competitive shooter games. My go to's are RPGs, Puzzles, City Builders, and Sims. A good chunk of the games I currently play worked well on my old battlerig, an Intel i7-3770K with 16GB. And I tend to do major builds every five to ten years. After I help my daughter with her master's year tuition (and that's going to be expensive), I'm looking to build a HTPC for the living room in 2025. If I do, I'm debating on using the guts for my current battlerig to make the HTPC and update this battlerig to the Ryzen 9000 series platform. Either way, I need to buy a new GPU, but that's looking to be Battlemage, not the RTX 5000 series. I still cannot justify spending the same amount on a graphics card as all the rest of the parts in the system. I wish I could. And I know of other gamers in the same situation as me. (So, not quite a "study of one".) Not everyone who does buy lower end nVidia does because they don't know what's out there or how it improves their gaming experience.
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how is this comment older than the video
@@ahmedhanout1555 older than when the video publicly posted
@@ahmedhanout1555When a video is publicly listed isn't always the same date as upload if set to private first, maybe that's it?
@UFDTech hey Brett, how are the nads? I remember when I got mine snipped they were sensitive for a week, but they returned to normal PDQ
Another channel named Vex described in his recent video, that the 5080 could be close to 1400-1700 USD. Can you review this and share your thoughts?
Remember guys, AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. They'll release at a horrible MSRP even when they'll lower it anyways later on.
They always say you miss 100% of opportunities you don't take AMD misses 100% opportunities every time
60% tariffs, obs everyone will overcharge
@NadeemAhmed-nv2br Cheap
swear i saw you on another video saying literally the same thing are you a dedicated AMD hater
At least they aren't Nvidia and trade organs for their GPUs
this needs to be 499$ to sell but knowing amd follows nvidia it will be atleast 699$.
Is Nvidia selling the 4080 super for $699? No they aren't.
@@freeisalwaysme the 5070 ti will be around there, mabe 799.
@@lolol50735 from the leaked prices the 5080 will be around 1400 usd so i suspect the 5070 will be around 900-1000
I'm gonna go in the middle and say the reference cards will be selling at $599 and we'll see partners release OC versions for like $750
It isn't official yet. If it's barely better than the 7900 gre, $500 sure. If it's between the 7900xt and xtx, $700 wouldn't be bad.
We need more intel GPUs
Give it time. Once they iron out the engineering side of their products when it comes to high end discreet graphics cards things will change (hopefully).
We need cheaper GPUs
I agree
Agreed
Dude they just released one, give them more time and soon enough we shall get more, hopefully they have the same quality or a better one.
Why is it that AMD has been able to consistently knock it out of the park with its CPUs yet the Radeon group continues acting like ATI?
I ask myself the same question...
AMD can kill Intel all they want, because Intel is its own thing. AMD can't go against Nvidia, because their CEOs are cousins.
Because nvidia is not intel.
People like yourself live in the past.
Because they don't price super aggressively. Pricing aggressively for 2-3 generations will make them a mainstream GPU brand.
if the leak spec correct, its definitely going for 649. AMD need to launched at 499. just a bit below 5070ti wont be enough
So u want a 95% of 4080 performance at 500$?
@@Gg66226 Considering the 4080 will be last gen, yes.
@daedalus6433 4080 like 1200 half is great value for something that's pretty much the same as it.
@@zarkproductions9612 4080 is overpriced, same with 4080 super.
@daedalus6433 yea, and so will the 5080 and 5090. 600 for a 4080 performance is still an awesome deal if it's that price. And will see how much better the 5080 will be compared to the 4080. If it's 10% better than pffff, I'm def going for the 9070xt.
14:35 that's not a good justification for the 4060 having less VRAM than the 3060, because it's not like they increased the memory bus width from 192-bit in the 3060, to 256-bit in the 4060. Nah man, they decreased it from 192-bit to 128-bit and then gave us 8GB VRAM 4060. They cheaped out on both the VRAM and the memory bus width, resulting overall lower memory bandwidth than the 3060 which is just laughable.
That VRAM is needed for AI cards! Who cares about gamers, all the money is in training AI now!
4060 and 5060 are 50-class cards. 4070/5070 are specwise successors of the 3060. 4070ti is the first real 70-class, but way more expensive and was planned as the 4080.
@@Steve-xh3byAI shall reign supreme, unfortunately
😂
Apart from lack of VRAM the 4060 is consistently faster than 3060 even if the card have less bandwidth. 750Ti for example have significantly less bandwidth but it did not prevent the card to perform just as fast as GTX480.
if amd really wants a good chunk of the pie from nvidia they should price it to $500.
What they want is sweet sweet margins :|
They want profits ,not necessarily market share
The leaks show its marginally better than the 7900 GRE in raster, which was going for 480 before they stopped production a week or two ago. This is 7900 GRE V2 with RT of 7900XT.
The only way they get away with a 500 dollar release price, is if 5070 is 650+.
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br AMD themselves said they want market share. But you are right lol they will still do their shit method of pricing a bit lower than NVIDIA. Then lower it slowly after months of bad reviews.
Im so happy I got a 7900 gre now 😂
I am sick of scalpers buying up all the 5090s when it comes out.
Bro!!!! Scalpers did the same thing with McRib Sauce!!!!! Lmaoo 😂😂 McDonald’s was selling a gallon on McRib sauce now you can only find em on eBay for $200 lmfaoooo
@@frallorfrallor3410 Are you a scalper?
Hes giving rare info so i think hes a scalper. Good to know his technique so i can try to get one to play games at high fps@@Sinivaal
@@frallorfrallor3410Is English your first language?
@@Sinivaal can't beat them? Join them, free market baby!
I hate how expensive gpus have gotten. . .makes new high end products way less exciting.
Everything has gotten expensive there has been like 30% inflation since 2018 alone
@김재-d1t the 2080 launched in 2018 at $699 so 30% increase puts it around 900? Come on don't make excuses for the huge companies who don't care about anything but money.
@@lazygamer6948 meanwhile... Intel
Inflation is the biggest bs excuse. Companies rised prices with covid where demand was higher than the supply and after covid these prices are the new standard to max the markup…
Companies just discovered what apple already did….
Gamer are broke. Gpu maker are going after the semi pro crowd that willing to pay more. Hence why AMD ditch gaming oriented RDNA for compute centric UDNA.
If it isn't 4080 level performance for ~500 it's going to be useless
If It's 4080 level of performance even 600 would be ok. We are talking about a 1100 euros card
@@riccardotesta987Nvidia's mind share is just so strong currently that it would genuinely need to be that damn good to make a true splash
? No one is selling 4080 perf for $500. AMD don't have to do shit at that price and perf. All they have to do is undercut the NVIdia 5070 at it's price. 7900GRE-7900XT raster perf and 4070TIish RT perf will sell like hotcakes if they price that at $500-$600.
@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418Agreed I'll buy one to throw in the extra PC 😂
Oh. Interesting. In my country the cheapest 4080 is $1100, and it seems to be fine to you, but at the same time AMD needs to provide same perf for $500 or it is useless?
I'm guessing $699 for the 9070xt. As much as I prefer team red, they always price their cards just a little too high to actually sell a bunch of them. If they could hit $499, they'd sell like hot cakes! They won't, but it's fun to pretend.
so true this is the price we want but we will never get
I would like to see them to give me a gpu and pay me 699, would be very nice of them
My old pc broke a month ago, and this is why I chose not to wait for the 50 series and just get a high end system with the 40 series. Maybe I’ll regret it, maybe not. Prices are way too unpredictable
youll regret it if you didnt buy a 4090 since every other card is gonna get replaced by cheap amd
I mean 😢 it’s usually not good to buy till the next gen drops.
All your parts are gonna drop in price by like 40% the next 6 months
@@Macheako Thats a LONG time to be without a PC tho. I can understand if its just an unnecessary upgrade but a broken PC is a whole different story.
@@Veganarchy-Zetetic I’m just saying in terms of pricing. It sucks but the same thing happened to me. If you NEED a computer though, get one for sure lol 😂
But if you’re close to a new release and you CAN wait….id say wait
@@Veganarchy-Zetetic i would just buy a used gpu to use for a month to two months, and then sell it after buying one of the upcoming ones lol. 6650/6700xt etc.
Remember that nvidia and amd ceo's are cousins.
They're secretly meeting at a secret place and decide what to price their gpus
@Lox089 i dont know about that, but they ARE cousins. That tells me enough. Btw im all about team green.
@@venclerew 🤮 lol
@@venclerew 🤮 lol
Helluva family rivalry
Loving the Springbok jersey.
Me too. Surprised when I randomly open ed this vid and he wasn’t a Saffa!
@davidswart7122 isnt he? I think he lived in sa or something like that
Who wants to bet that even the cards that make it into the country before an tariff increase, don't also get their price marked up if and when said increase happens. They'll just pocket that money, thinking thank-you-very-much.
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Thanks Tech Morty, the high pitch gets me every time!
amd cpu 🔥, amd gpu 💀
intel cpu 💀, intel gpu 🔥
The RX 7900 GRE is $900 in the Balkans, way more worth it than a $900 RTX 4070.
Why not drove across the border to buy for cheaper
The 4070 is not 900 dollars anywhere in the Balkans.
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br because Serbia is not in European union and cars are expensive.
@@kingswood9064 it is. I found some 4070 Ti Supers for $900 on a local Balkan tech store.
@@AMDFan-s1yIf you have a car, you can go over to hungary and buy a GPU
0:47 The what speed.
Clock
It sounded more like colck
horrible prices before Tariffs.....F that!
I would guess the tarrifs will be priced in from the start. I think its will be: 5070Ti $1200, 5080 $1600, 5090 $2900
IF a deal can be struck with Trump's crew then these may come down by a bit
Is that a mosquito's sound or am I hallucinating? 4:43
😂😂
4070 super and 4070 Ti super is really popular for people.
Thats probably that AMD aim for GPU.
Brett: talks about new GPUs and their VRAM
Me: looking at my laptop with a 940MX and 2gb VRAM
Im so sprry bro 😢
Who could've seen this coming...
Gotta love trade wars. 😒
why did anyone hurt radeon naming??
4:31 they should price it at $870 and would be a huge win but I expect a $1099
I'm still not convinced 9070XT is the top tier product. Remember the 6800XT launch, AMD sent 6800XT dies to all the board partners so they could create their third-party cooler designs, and AMD correctly assumed the AIB partners would be bad at keeping secrets - so it got leaked that 6800XT was the top tier product and similar to a 3080 in performance. Then 6900XT was a surprise announcement. If 9070XT really is a 16GB card, I can't see that as the top product this generation from Team Red.
It makes sense that they'll focus on a mid range card first though. Thats where the majority of gamers buy. But i do agree i think we'll see a higher range card eventually this gen.
Huh?????? 6800xt was NEVER a competitor for the 3080
6900xt and 6950xt sure, but 6800xt was a step down bigly
@@Macheako Are you on crack? The 6800 XT had near identical raster performance to the 3080. Go look at Gamers Nexus' old benchmark video of the 6800 XT.
@@Macheako Somebody's been drinking the Jensen kool aid... 6800xt was ALWAYS a competitor to the 3080. For $50 less, you got 6GB more VRAM and pretty much identical raster performance.
@@dougtemple847450$ is not worth dealing with AMD software. Fidelity is mega ass
I miss Reese's old mic. Made him sound like a badass DJ. The new one is more accurate I think but the old one sounded epic.
I was hoping for some good choices with a lot less power .
So the if the 9070xt is within 5% of the 4080 then it’s within 7% of the 4080 super? 😂
'price of a mid range but performance of a 4080'
My 3rd world ass country: 'IF IT PERFORMS LIKE A 4080 THEN IT WILL BE PRICED LIKE A 4080 SUPER'
Lex Luthor if his iq dropped to double digits
AMD gonna drop the ball hard on their new GPU pricing. Gonna be still too much money and everyone will ignore them.
Thank you orange bafoon for potentially making everything more expensive if the tarriffs pass
For anyone waiting for the 50 series / RX8000/9000 release. Forget about it. NOW IS THE BEST TIME to get a GPU.
Got my 7900 xtx dont regret it
Nah I'm getting a 5070 ti. AMD cards are trash and the 4080/4090 is not available
Are the tariffs really the problem or is having an industry completely and totally reliant on outsourcing the real problem? What if they just decided to not make them for us anymore or if they decided to double the price?
theyre not made in usa because intel sucks while samsung and tsmc are doing incredibly well
Tariffs across the board are incredibly stupid. Its a stupid policy idea but the guy pushing it clearly has no idea how tariffs work (given his comments) so theres a high chance they actually happen.
@geebster. I could see an inkling of the idea being helpful, but blanket tarrifs like he's talking about are horrible lol. It would need to be targeted tarrifs to do anything and even then; still makes that item more expensive
@@geebster. He was empowered by people who have no idea how they work as well and clearly forgot why he lost his job 4 years ago. Buy your hardware now and insulate yourself from stupid people because they will be learning a lesson soon.
@@balthorpaynesad I can't afford a pc yet. and soon, I won't be able to :)
Im so angry at them changing the radeon naming. If they could just keep a naming scheme for a while it would help their branding
If AMD prices the 9070XT at $500 or less, it will pretty much pull a B580 level of excitement and positive reception.
Brett tries sssooooo hard not to be biased towards any team/camp. No one should care if its red, green, or blue as long as the product has a good performance to price point!
Speaking of tariffs..for everyone fortunate enough to get a PS5 Slim or Pro- but held off on the disc drive because they didn't want to pay $120-$160 or more - Best Buy has them right now for order at the retail price. I wouldn't be surprised if that $120 scalper price becomes the normal price...after the tariffs kick in..
I will believe that 5% performance diff compared to a 4080 when I see some benchmarks. Until then, the 7900gre level of performance is staying my assumption
Terrans Force is responding, but how are we supposed to beat back the Zerg and the Protoss if we go bankrupt in just buying the PC and its components?
Also, thanks for the numbers, but you didn't answer the all-important-task: "Can it run Crysis?"
Ive been watcving GPU prices like a hawk the last month and i havent seen ANY drop below MSRP here in Canada.
Its such BS man like if they dropped even a single one of them by $100 theyd have a sale from me.
What idiot would spend full MSRP on something thatd about to be replaced by new tech in a month, i just dont understand.
When the tax goes from 10% to 15% because of the tariff but the cards and gear goes from 1000 to 1400 dollars…..what’s really going on?
Simple supply and demand. They see an opportunity/excuse to raise the price, so they raise it to what the market will bear... Unfortunately, the market is more willing than myself to spend a down payment on a car for non-essential, luxury items that are considered out-dated within a year.
Gotta vote with your wallet, and hope others do the same.
so 9070 should be called 9700xt
In my opinion the changed nomenclature also serves to separate it from the CPU ones.
hey, do you have any news about the prices of the b580 in the eu ? The cheapest b580 in Poland is 320$ and its the sparkle one, the cheapest limited edition b580 is 400$.
Trump's tariffs are going to suckkkkk.
Glad I got a 4080 super on sale before the price doubled
Price for the 5090 is going to be 2500.00
Only the post tariff ones
If Amd and Nvidia don't make it in time intel will rule the graphics cards markets
I am going with a 5090.
Thinking of combining Ryzen 7700x with Intel's B580, but still can't get Battlemage for anywhere close to 270 Eur.
If that chip was Intel there would be a flaming CPU thumbnail on this video but since it is AMD all we get is 'it might be a little warm'
In all likelihood the rumor of tariffs will already have been reflected in an increase in pricing. AMD and Nvidia both have the same opportunity to pad pricing a bit citing this as a response to oncoming tariffs. In the meantime the rush to release before tariffs will be because all of that buffer they put on top of the price tag is just extra margins until tariffs actually go into effect. Pricing may likely still increase after actual tariffs are implemented since they could low ball the extra headroom they will need, but I'd be skeptical that even just the rumor of tariffs hasn't already increased the price points they were planning.
Take into account that the 9950X has a price of €749.90.... I imagine that the X3D version will be launched at an absurd €950... I'm sure someone will buy them.
The way you read that last comment was Unadulterated Gold 😂👌
Mid tier level performance at $1000, what a bargain.
2022 high end vs 2026 mid tier your expectations are dumb
@@Femboy_lover1611its obviously satire
@@ChristandIreland 🤣 no money, no cry #bobdylan
I was struggling trying to remember what the channel name was because it's just a meaningless initialism to me. UHD Tech? DNF Tech?
I had to do way too much digging to find UF Disciple, but the UF part is still a mystery to me. Please don't tell me it's University of Florida, that would be so unbelievably cheesy.
Tarrifs is just a convenient excuse to raise prices.
5080 costs 2500 CAD nvidia is over
Is that Tux that I see back there?
I honestly might just go for a 7900xt at this point. Regardless of the performance if its gre or near 4080 level, I dont have high hopes for the pricing. And seeing 7900xt around 650~ its looking like a hard deal to pass up on. Plus, the new gpus are probably getting scalped and resold hundreds over msrp anyway if the intel release was any indicator.
Really wish people would stop buying Nvidia cards so the prices would come back down.
I don't think we're all VRAM constrained, definitely memory bus constrained with lower VRAM models these days. No AMD, a bit of extra cache does not make up for the loss in available data transfer rate to GPU memory
I'm planning on buying a RX 7800 XT
Should I wait for the RX 9070 XT to drop first? Will that decrease the 7800 XT's price? Also will availability for the 7800 XT remain normal?
I doubt 7800XT drop in price significantly. Just look on prices of RX 6600 and RX 7600. It's almost identical
@@GreyDeathVaccine rx 6600 and 7600 are definitely not almost identical 😂 not even close
@@GreyDeathVaccine The only circumstance where the 7800 XT drops in price is if the 9070 XT gets priced at ~500 USD yah?
It’ll be better performance for an equal price then wouldn’t it?
So it’s really all dependent on what AMD decides to put as the price tag
Thank you for your insight
@@eyadayman04 Depends on how badly you need an upgrade and if you're willing to wait.
Personally if I dont need to upgrade (i.e I don't have some job that requires an upgrade, I'm not ITCHING to play a game) I'd just wait.
@@toad7395 Totally!
I’m in no rush, I’m building the PC part by part where I get a component or two every month, by the rate I’m going I’ll finish around March. So I can just get another component for the time being instead.
My only concern is stock availability really, I don’t want to be faced with a situation where prices have soared up because mid tier GPUs don’t become abundant anymore but at the same time I want to get the 7800 XT for as low as possible given that new gen will be out soon. In any case it seems waiting will either do me good or do me no harm I suppose.
Thanks, I appreciate your reply.
what to do with integrated grapics amd radeon TM with 5600 H laptop rps3 emulator for god of war3 is full of lags and glitches
5080 is gonna cost 1600 USD! wtf.
You sir are a tech WINNER! Dont let these fools get ya down!
If AMD wants to destroy the market? They need to take the Strix Halo and combine it with the X3D technology. That would be a screamer of an APU.
It's 3.30 pm in poland
Same with Slovakia, Hungary, serbia and Macedonia.
I will go with 8700g then will pick up B580 later, I can't afford high priced cards.
hahaha
Just note the 8700g is a bad CPU in gaming, since it only has 16 MB L3 cache, and buying a cheaper CPU like the 7500f or the 7600 with a GPU would be alot faster in gaming
@kristianlund2913 no it's not. Its an apu that can run ray traced games like indiana jones. On top of that the cpu is hardly any different in many games than the ryzen 7600
bad idea, take a 7500F (AM5) with a cheap discrete gpu while you save for the B580
My man, I just got a 9800X3D and a Intel B580. I can afford a high end gpu, and I had a RTX4090. Why did I switch to a budget gpu made by Intel? Cause I want to make a statement, FU** Nvidia and AMD.
I see the NAG there in the corner. Lekker.
Nag is goated
@@lilsabiegaming Been reading since 05
9:55 - Is that why? ...wasn't it because the head of EVGA wanted more family time or something but, for whatever reason didn't just hire someone else to help run EVGA for his 'more familytime'?
No, it was because of how Nvidia treats their partners. They said they felt disrespected and not valued as a partner and left.
Casually wearing a springbok shirt🫢
They can rush out all they want people aren't upgrading unless their hardware is outdated
My GTX 1660 is 🤣
9070xt pice is probably not gonna be below $599 that would be crazy
Do not support Nvidia's blatant price gouging.
I was the 1,000 like, and it was satisfying seeing the 999 all rolling back like an odometer
RIP Gordon.
That last comment gives me headache just reading it. My head nearly exploded trying to understand of what it is trying to say...
Where are the nvidia bootlickers defending outrageous prices for plastic, aluminum and sand?
AMD is their own worst enemy.
Seeing "Granite Ridge" looks more like an Intel code name for a CPU core than an AMD code name.
Seems to follow the same logic with the new Rx 9070 XT GPU, making it sound like an Nvidia GPU.
I love you AMD but please stop confusing the normies.
according to kopite7kimi the 5090 is way les than the 2k mark after he replied to a tweet from someone saying its gonna be 2k-2.5k and he said its gonna be expensive than 4090 but just a little and hinted at 1799. Also true that Jensen seems to change his mind on stage right before he says what the price is.
AMD Marketing: So people think $500 would be a good price? Then I bet they'll pay $650.
Please prove me wrong, AMD.
Just order a 7900xt instaed.
Love your T-shirt!!!
600$ would be great price for 9070xt.. Much cheaper than Nvidia.
Low probability but I'm hoping for new entry level CPUs on AM5 , the 8400f and 8500g are bad and the interesting 7500F is "Asia only" (and the prices are up ) .
Please don't say that the 1060 is as fast as the 970. The 1060 is as fast or even sometimes faster than the 980. I am still using my 1060 and i am waiting for the next gen but what i am most afraid is about it having 8gb vram. According to leaks the Rtx 5080 is gonna cost 1700 USD. Holy shit man, i don't know what i am gonna do.
Please make more long form content, i always see a short and get disappointed that i cant have tech backround white noise while playing games
I need that VRAM as an AI researcher. Not much of a choice anyway.
what's the story with the other 8 cores on the 9950x3d...are they going to be full power or wimpy ones. I have a 9800x3d and love it but would jump on a 9950x3d IF all cores run at full speed/power and there's more fps in games like Battlefield 2042, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 and other titles that use all of the cores well
Tariffs are needed to make the companies (especially Nvidia since it's a US company) to build their products in America.
TSMC was founded by a man who took the knowledge he gained in the US and undercut the US based companies that did the same exact thing woth cheap labor we all know and resent in China.
Brett, I know this falls under something one of my old sociology professors used to rail against, "The Study of One". But I'd like to counter your argument with, "not everyone who buys the crappier cards from nVidia doesn't know about vram and overclocking." I'm currently rocking an ASUS RTX 3050 (8GB) because of financial constraints, it was on sale, and my kid happened to be in LA near a microcenter at the time. I built a new rig last year (Nov 2023) and bought parts piecemeal over the span of two months. But my budget back then didn't allow me to buy a new card for the new build, so the 3050 got carried over. (More storage and better RAM was much less than a new graphics card, so what little I had went to that.) And while I tend to build systems that can be overclocked, I tend not to overclock. I don't play competitive shooter games. My go to's are RPGs, Puzzles, City Builders, and Sims. A good chunk of the games I currently play worked well on my old battlerig, an Intel i7-3770K with 16GB. And I tend to do major builds every five to ten years.
After I help my daughter with her master's year tuition (and that's going to be expensive), I'm looking to build a HTPC for the living room in 2025. If I do, I'm debating on using the guts for my current battlerig to make the HTPC and update this battlerig to the Ryzen 9000 series platform. Either way, I need to buy a new GPU, but that's looking to be Battlemage, not the RTX 5000 series. I still cannot justify spending the same amount on a graphics card as all the rest of the parts in the system. I wish I could. And I know of other gamers in the same situation as me. (So, not quite a "study of one".) Not everyone who does buy lower end nVidia does because they don't know what's out there or how it improves their gaming experience.
If you're gonna build an HTPC save some money and just use an Intel cpu, they got prety good transcoding performance out the box sometimes.
Damn didn't know Sid from toy story was into PCs