Anna Netrebko sings "Nel dì della vittoria... Vieni t'affretta!" from Verdi's MACBETH

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  • @Tenortalker
    @Tenortalker 9 років тому +11

    What I love about her is that she never cheats. She takes risks , she attacks the phrases head on. She is totally physically engaged.

    • @Ronizetti
      @Ronizetti 8 років тому +11

      Now, if she could just become VOCALLY engaged ...

  • @sevoflurane
    @sevoflurane 10 років тому +27

    The cabaletta has been mercifully omitted.

    • @SymphonyBrahms
      @SymphonyBrahms 2 роки тому +4

      I wish that all of it had been mercifully omitted.

  • @draganvidic2039
    @draganvidic2039 4 роки тому +7

    Good microphone...

    • @prosdocimo
      @prosdocimo 4 роки тому

      Dragan Vidic opera houses are not miched- they use them for recording but never to project the voice.

  • @leopoldleopold6251
    @leopoldleopold6251 9 років тому +20

    I don't know why she is thought of as good actress.

  • @alvaroblanco3564
    @alvaroblanco3564 6 місяців тому +1

    La más grande. Muchas gracias

  • @jamescottone9882
    @jamescottone9882 9 років тому +29

    Painful, ugly, horrible.......a desecration.

  • @AlisonWAmes
    @AlisonWAmes 10 років тому +2

    i've been waiting for YEARS to hear Trebs in a good Verdi role. Give her some room (and a less grotesque mise-en-scène) -- she'll be hittn' em outta the park!

  • @FranciscoArvizuH
    @FranciscoArvizuH 10 років тому +45

    Completely out of repertoire.

    • @Startsingingnow
      @Startsingingnow 10 років тому +8

      I agree.... I think Macbeth is a big role not only for her but for many singers of this generation. I hope she doesn't lose her voice after this. She has a lovely sound.

    • @CarloQuinto
      @CarloQuinto 9 років тому +1

      FranciscoarvizuHugues: You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Her voice has matured into this and other roles. You have ears, LISTEN!

    • @FranciscoArvizuH
      @FranciscoArvizuH 9 років тому +12

      Charles Henry Who should hear you are. Netrebko's voice does not have the color or the dramatic characteristics of Lady Macbeth. Punto. It is a voice without heroic or dramatic. It is a product of advertising, without artistic merit or vocal.

    • @CarloQuinto
      @CarloQuinto 9 років тому +4

      Francisco Arvizu Hugues Her voice is PERFECT now for the heavier Verdi roles like this one. You have the intelligence of a fruit fly. Exactly what was she doing wrong? Huh? Like all the Anna haters you write things like advertising hype. You know she is going to sing ELSA soon ,as well as AIDA, and it won't be long until she does NORMA! I can't wait. We are so lucky to be living in the era of the great Anna Netrebko! Too bad you are too stupid to realize it.

    • @n.g.h.calmarena7013
      @n.g.h.calmarena7013 9 років тому +1

      Francisco Arvizu Hugues You are like a boy at an age of 12 to 15 years, hellbent on destroying things by kicks or explosives or in any way you can get maximum destruction. But you seem to be much older and should have grown out of this childish behaviour, Charles Henry thinks you have the intelligence of a fruit fly. So do I, snailwitted is another good and true word...

  • @MariaCaIIas
    @MariaCaIIas 9 років тому +5

    whether she will lose her voice or not it is her choise and can happen to any singer at one point or another.
    That said, she does not sound like she is losing it here. She actually sounds like she found it!

  • @scoobidoo9112
    @scoobidoo9112 9 років тому +37

    Apparently you have never heard Shirley Verrett or Maria Callas in this role. They owned this role. Poor Anna. The singing is just okay. The voice is too heavy, not agile, not what Verdi wanted in his soprano. Why is the world so obsessed with this woman.

    • @glenndesmedt8789
      @glenndesmedt8789 8 років тому +1

      +scoobi doo What Verdi wanted for his Lady was actually "a woman with an ugly voice"... Don´t believe me? Check out his own letters!

    • @ScalzoAndrea
      @ScalzoAndrea 8 років тому +6

      +Glenn Desmedt netrebko has a very beautiful lyric voice, trying to make it dramatic is just a strain and it's also not good for her voice, which i don't really know how it will last if she continues accepting these roles

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 6 років тому +3

      Ugly but with a perfect technique. So Callas and Zampieri fit perfectly. Netrebko doesn´t have the coloraturas and lacks agility. And that must be the reason why this aria is conducted extremely slow.

    • @cayrephilippe2416
      @cayrephilippe2416 3 роки тому +1

      @@glenndesmedt8789 Does "a woman with an ugly voice" mean "a woman singing out of tune"?

    • @glenndesmedt8789
      @glenndesmedt8789 3 роки тому +2

      @@cayrephilippe2416 I wasn't actually commenting on mrs Netebko's voice or technique. Nor on Callas being more suited for the role, though you could certainly make the case for her as an ideal Lady (great singer with a not so beautiful voice). Just on the fact that "what the composer wanted" isn't always straightforward or what one would expect. Also: if someone is being cast "wrongly", can they really be blamed for not turning down the offer, knowing that their acceptance will certainly put many many bums on seats?
      Also noteworthy: in Verdi's time and age opera was still quite a local business. He could very probably only have dreamt of the level of singers we tend to take for granted. He often complained of bad singing, including out of tune...

  • @lilliwitt4941
    @lilliwitt4941 10 років тому +7

    BRAVO ANNA BRAVO ANNA Anna Netrebko sings "Nel di della vittoria from Verdi`s MACBETH Bayrische Staatsoper 2014

  • @quequitoAR
    @quequitoAR 4 роки тому +2

    This was 5 years ago. To her champions here: go and listen to her now. A painful collection of shouting. And you didn't see this coming back then? Well, that's because... Nevermind.

  • @lesyllphide
    @lesyllphide 9 років тому +1

    It's adorable when people who aren't actually singers try and deliver praise to Netrebko.

  • @wilsonwatt9283
    @wilsonwatt9283 5 років тому +6

    Gergiev's ego led him to believe he could take a quite fine natural voice and transform it into the "new" [as if this could ever be] Callas. She was young and seduced [musically] by his vision. She has worked hard on her voice, her acting, her technical mastery. If Gergiev had not pushed her into a spotlight and then abandoned her we would not see so many fools attacking her. Yes, she does not always fully meet the demands of the role but she never simply mails in a performance the way some sopranos [Fleming, e.g.] seem to do. I have been attending opera on 4 continents for over 50 years and have heard almost every soprano of the "great group" [yes, even Callas] live. At her best and with good directing and conducting Netrebko meets the standard of that group, particularly in Russian opera. Stop faulting her for what she is not and try to appreciate her for what she is.

  • @Dion9646
    @Dion9646 10 років тому +7

    Why is it that some people will only acknowledge a singer if she can sing a high Eb. Anna has changed her repertoire to suit her changing voice. She is coping with the more dramatic Verdi roles quite well and in Macbeth she does not need to produce an Eb. I have just watched her Il Trovatore in Salzburg, and she is getting stronger and better with every performance.

  • @617768913
    @617768913 7 років тому +2

    Maravillosa ópera y maravillosa aria

  • @josemiguelperez8133
    @josemiguelperez8133 9 років тому +2

    Me encanta Anna, tiene una fuerza y una atracción fatal para cualquier persona con una mínima apertura de corazón.

  • @sergol2876
    @sergol2876 10 років тому +16

    set design is not very expensive LOL

  • @mariadelaidecestra9945
    @mariadelaidecestra9945 10 років тому +41

    Terrible... I can't stand it!

  • @giuseppinascapparone3303
    @giuseppinascapparone3303 6 років тому +4

    Immensa CALLAS ci.manchi!!!!!! Splendida VERRET dove sei!!!!!!

  • @Homoclassicus
    @Homoclassicus 10 років тому +22

    Amazing singing: secure, powerful, accurate and intense. She also doesn't seem to be forcing her voice, but totally comfortable with the lines from a very blooming top to a very solid low register, and the middle voice sounds just as beautiful as ever, but now darker and with more colors. And to think this is only her first Lady Macbeth live!

    • @CarloQuinto
      @CarloQuinto 9 років тому +6

      Well said! BRAVO!

    • @crazyorganist1609
      @crazyorganist1609 6 років тому +6

      It's not good. She's a lyric soprano not a dramatic soprano

  • @pietrobertolini4532
    @pietrobertolini4532 8 місяців тому

    This is actually really good, she diddn’t sing like this in La Scala on 2021

  • @camilapril6348
    @camilapril6348 10 років тому +17

    CE N,EST PAS UN ROLE POUR ELLE, TOUT SIMPLEMENT DANS UNE MISE EN SCENE GROTESQUE

    • @sisicestvrai6808
      @sisicestvrai6808 10 років тому +3

      mise en scène pathétique en effet mais Netrebko peut désormais interpréter MACBETH !

  • @user-jd1jm1kr4o
    @user-jd1jm1kr4o Рік тому +1

    прекрасна❤❤❤❤

  • @crazyorganist1609
    @crazyorganist1609 6 років тому +6

    Not suitable at all. This is butchery. Nilsson and Callas are the best at this role. She's ruined her voice

    • @user-ct6yd2qu4p
      @user-ct6yd2qu4p 3 роки тому

      Раньше всё было лучше и солнце ярче и небо голубое и трава зеленее

  • @alenales1384
    @alenales1384 4 роки тому

    Super!

  • @altec5174
    @altec5174 8 років тому +2

    To have such a grandiose presentation, the actual performances are trivial things. A problem with the same old same old in anything is that so many people have recorded this material, even the once rarely encountered Lady Macbeth arias, that it’s easy to find better, in great sound, at a discount! There is a difference between someone who is not that bad and what true stars were once expected to deliver.

  • @daniel_5606
    @daniel_5606 8 років тому +1

    perdió los agudos, pero es algo muy normal en la madures, pero se nota mucho la mejora de años anteriores, su voz y energía es admirable..

  • @Poet4you1
    @Poet4you1 8 років тому +22

    Is this a joke?

  • @cayrephilippe2416
    @cayrephilippe2416 3 роки тому

    I suggest you listen to Shirley Verrett...

  • @mistersmith1883
    @mistersmith1883 3 роки тому +1

    Idky everyone hates her so. She's not the best no but she's good

  • @silverio3333
    @silverio3333 10 років тому +2

    scenografia...un vero disastro !!!

  • @Paddy818
    @Paddy818 10 років тому +15

    Seems like a very natural progression for her voice she was always a bit too thick in sound for the belcanto rep and she did not have the flexibility. I am surprised she wanted to still pursue coloratura singing. It doesn't seem natural to her BUT she a very interesting singer, a hard worker and a wonderful performer! Why be a hater? She has done nothing to warrant that kind of attention. We should be thrilled with her, Kaufmann and others not pulling them down. Opera is dying a slow death and it will go even quicker if it doesn't get an infusion of positive reinforcement! We will never return the the 50s, 60s and 70s!

  • @helenaroubkova9236
    @helenaroubkova9236 3 роки тому +1

    Já ji miluju.

  • @bloodyIImary
    @bloodyIImary 10 років тому +11

    Amazing! Is this her first Lady Macbeth? This is really impressive! I like this much better than her Bellini roles.
    And she looks stunning! Even with the changing cubicle lights and the ginger wig. Now you tell me how this is fair...

  • @cicciolove85
    @cicciolove85 10 років тому +14

    che orrore.

  • @acacia-bloom
    @acacia-bloom 10 років тому +5

    kathryn ryder What makes you think she cant sing a D-flat any more??? - FYI she actually did in the sleepwalking scene, and it was gorgeous.She is costumed like that because she and the director want Lady Macbeth to look like that. I think she looks appropriate for the role.

  • @user-ls9co6bt1m
    @user-ls9co6bt1m 9 років тому +15

    для того, чтобы петь Верди, нужно иметь полноценный грудной и головной регистр, а также "технику" Все это есть у Людмилы Монастырской. Анна Нетребко очень неубедительна в этой партии... Притом в настоящее время она имеет проблемы с голосом - петь осталось не более 5 лет !!! как и у Каллас - слышится "стертость"

    • @user-ct6yd2qu4p
      @user-ct6yd2qu4p 3 роки тому

      Онастырская драм.сопрано и кстати у нее очень много недостатков ....и некрасивый неприятный тембр

    • @user-ct6yd2qu4p
      @user-ct6yd2qu4p 3 роки тому +1

      Ваше предсказание написано 5лет назад а она все поет

  • @andrealupini6769
    @andrealupini6769 7 років тому +2

    insomma che regia e che scene da manicomio! le ossa di verdi si saranno rivoltate nella tomba! la signora a una grande vocalità per essere una cantante dei nostri giorni ma assolutamente imparagonabile alle lady storiche!

    • @andrealupini6769
      @andrealupini6769 7 років тому +2

      Konstantin V non ho detto che ha fallito ma che fa grandissimi sforzi per adeguare la sua vocalità ad un ruolo che evidentemente non le si addice! è giovane certo! ma se continua così non so quanti anni ancora potrà reggere! e questo lo dico con tutto rispetto per carità ! Sa passare da lauretta alla lady e per me un po azzardato ! ora ho finito i minuti di ascolto ci sono dei punti nelle quali è un po in difficoltà Ma dovrei risentirla ! ma appunto essendo giovane le ha bravamente scampate! le faccio un esempio celebre ! la Tebaldi ha fatto un ottima violetta ma si capiva che in sempre libera tirava un po il collo perché non era scritta per una voce di lirico spinto come il suo uno scoglio da giovanissima scampato data la sua freschezza vocale sta di fatto che dopo i 35 anni la tolta saggiamente dal repertorio ! ecco io se fossi nella signora in questione ne farei ancora qualche recita forse ma starei attento a non cantarla troppo ! ha una voce troppo delicata per macebeth ! dovrebbe andare più sul repertorio lirico!

  • @milanetc4865
    @milanetc4865 7 років тому +16

    This is absolutely terrible

  • @julijavilumane4664
    @julijavilumane4664 8 років тому +5

    вот она оперная индустрия...какой ужас...раздутые пустые ноты,ни тембра не драмматизма.....Виолетта и Макбет все же разные партии...

  • @opera46
    @opera46 9 років тому +2

    I like her voice in this but that dress is a different matter...

  • @zaccoria
    @zaccoria 8 років тому +9

    orribile in tutti i sensi lady Macbeth e' un personaggio forte drammatico non un personaggio da circo e lei canta come un cane

  • @aiolosgr
    @aiolosgr 9 років тому +2

    Excelent technique. I am amazed that her voice sounds truly dramatic! Her lower range sounds pretty awesome.

  • @jadalmatamoros6368
    @jadalmatamoros6368 7 років тому +2

    not thrilling yet. this are hard characters to own not just good singers. this Lady Macbeth doesn't scare me

  • @giuseppinascapparone5912
    @giuseppinascapparone5912 4 роки тому +4

    Non mi piace!!! Per niente adatta a questo ruolo, inesistente! Altro che drammatica, piuttosto fa sorridere!

  • @amneris78
    @amneris78 6 років тому +5

    Чудовищная мизансцена, нелепый парик, ужасное платье... и голос, совершенно не подходящий для партии леди Макбет.
    Не те акценты; нет напора и страстности, - словом, в звуке НЕТ персонажа.
    Зачем же так позорить себя?

  • @sadmoon9234
    @sadmoon9234 7 років тому +6

    Pobre Verdi.

  • @Tkimba2
    @Tkimba2 6 років тому +2

    Aiuto....

  • @sergiopeixoto8494
    @sergiopeixoto8494 10 років тому +3

    Bela voz, mas dramaticamente nula.

  • @naelisdu77
    @naelisdu77 10 років тому +8

    That's embarrassing.

  • @luisjavierjimenez677
    @luisjavierjimenez677 9 років тому +5

    No, no no! Anna ese rol no es para ti. Y mira que puedes hacerte mucho daño. Además si tuvieron que cortarte más de la mitad de la cabaletta para que las fuerzas te alcanzaran hasta el final, entonces no te imagino cantando cabalmente el rol completo. Aquí se te ve cambiando el punto de la emisión pretendiendo ser una dramática, pero pierdes el brillo y el metal de tu voz. La voz se escucha gutural en los graves y con demasiado aire. Y que pasó con la agilidad que exige ese difícil rol? Todo indica que estas en "labores de parto". Se más inteligente querida y no pretendas cantar de todo.

    • @yohangouraantoni3903
      @yohangouraantoni3903 8 років тому

      A ese paso no va durar mucho su voz, creo que empezó el declive, no soy gran admirador de ella pero aquí si se descachó

    • @RubenAlegria
      @RubenAlegria 7 років тому +1

      Anna leyó tu comentario y dice que no lo volverá a hacer y que muchas gracias por el consejo, le salvaste su carrera

  • @milanetc4865
    @milanetc4865 7 років тому +4

    Haha terrible... God....

  • @zimnaya
    @zimnaya 6 років тому

    Heaven's above! Staging...striding around as though already unhinged....auburn wig....the only way to manage this is with eyes closed, and even then Netrebko doesn't terrify me, and my hair did not stand on end either from terror or from excitement. She's a wonderful singer but - alas! - not in this, I feel

  • @1989Doido1989
    @1989Doido1989 10 років тому +3

    Her voice is perfectly suitable for Lady Macbeth's role, but the scenography is awful. So, unfortunately, the whole setting lost his dramatic force due the option for the eurotrash.

  • @lanewhitesell3146
    @lanewhitesell3146 10 років тому +4

    Wonderful singing. Strange home decor.

  • @numetutelare
    @numetutelare 7 років тому +5

    Ma qualcuno una volta o l'altra dirà a questo soprano che non é un'ASSOLUTA, che la sua voce comincia a ballare pericolosamente e che il suo repertorio é ben altro??? Manca di pathos, non ha una tenuta di fiati decente e se non bastasse strilla come una pescivendola !!!

  • @PhilippeHemsen
    @PhilippeHemsen 10 років тому +2

    Belle interprétation. Dommage que la mise en scène soit si parfaitement grotesque. Une fois de plus :-(

  • @Kafkandinsky
    @Kafkandinsky 6 років тому +2

    Not a bad version, but she is too musical for the character. Lady Macbeth is more recitativo, she is supposed to be an imperative and ruthless with powerful tops, no "finesse".

    • @theobraden9241
      @theobraden9241 6 років тому

      Kafkandinsky I agree ...her voice is go pretty

    • @laprimmadonna2341
      @laprimmadonna2341 3 роки тому +1

      La voz de Lady Macbeth tiene que escucharse maligna, demoniaca…inhumana…pues, esas son las características de la personalidad de este malvado personaje…esas fueron las especificaciones de Verdi….

  • @camilapril6348
    @camilapril6348 10 років тому +3

    ELLE N,EST PAS PRETTE, PAS ENCORE. TEBALDI ETAIT UNE GRANDE CHANTEUSE COMME ELLE MAIS N,A JAMAIS INTERPRETTEE LADY MACBETH , ELLE N,AVAIT TOUT SIMPLEMENT PAS LA VOIX POUR CE ROLE.DIMITROVA L,AVAIT

  • @PerseodiMai
    @PerseodiMai 7 років тому +9

    orrenda.

  • @vivianbelissima
    @vivianbelissima 10 років тому +2

    LA TUA VOCE DE PETTO
    BRAVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @marianquiroga
    @marianquiroga 10 років тому +1

    Maravillosa como siempre!!!

  • @voce29
    @voce29 10 років тому +3

    A dramatic soprano of first class. Phantastic!!!

  • @carizoism
    @carizoism 9 років тому +9

    After Callas they should have burnt the score. Nobody should ever be allowed to sing this role again after Callas perfected it, They are just making fools of themselves.

    • @detectivefiction3701
      @detectivefiction3701 7 років тому +4

      That's right, they should *burn* a composer's score because a particular singer is not around anymore to sing it. Makes perfect sense...not.

    • @Homoclassicus
      @Homoclassicus 6 років тому +3

      And again we see that the widows haven't still finished sprinkling the ashes of Callas... So sad, SO sad... LOL

    • @janm.c.munich3513
      @janm.c.munich3513 5 років тому

      Callas is dead, buried, gone. Get used to it. Her voice was also gone towards the end. Do us a favour and disconnect your internet, stay at home and listen to scratchy old recordings.

  • @CarlosGarcia-wu9gm
    @CarlosGarcia-wu9gm 10 років тому +4

    Insuperable ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

    • @violetavalery
      @violetavalery 10 років тому +1

      Eric Akif there are other languages in the world apart from English, in case you didn't know....

  • @israelvarducci3059
    @israelvarducci3059 9 років тому +1

    Me gusta Anna Netrebko, posee una hermosa voz... pero Verdi?nooo para nada, no tiene metal dramatico ni agilidad para cantar verdi, no me gusta en Bellini, ni Donizetti... le perdonaría algo de Puccini, en Wagner si que sería horrible!
    Es más una voz para opereta!

  • @SymphonyBrahms
    @SymphonyBrahms 2 роки тому

    Is there no opera that NetrebCow won't try to destroy? What's next? Tristan und Isolde? Gotterdammerung? ELEKTRA?????!!!!!

  • @despertardelaconciencia369
    @despertardelaconciencia369 10 років тому +2

    Yo veo y oigo esto y solo puedo pensar: Que horrible puesta en escena de Macbeth.

  • @jotge.3444
    @jotge.3444 Рік тому

    Der Wobbel kommt näher....

  • @asyaredmendoza5617
    @asyaredmendoza5617 2 роки тому

    Es una burla que cantantes tan limitados se atrevan a cantar estos roles, está mujer no tiene la técnica adecuada, para este papel ni para mucho de lo que canta. Min 4:25 WTF!!! Jamás pagaría por ver algo como esto

  • @ggltthvideomaker2164
    @ggltthvideomaker2164 6 років тому +1

    non capisco le scelte del regista, la lettera dov'è? E perché ride su "sir di caudore"? poi le crome prima del vieni t'affretta troppo veloci, e i cambi di armonia precedenti in ritardo da parte dell'orchestra. Forse frutto di prove troppo frettolose. Purtroppo in Verdi il confine tra tragico e comico è sottilissimo, se non si è attenti si perde tutta la drammaticità dell'opera.

  • @mannail888
    @mannail888 9 років тому

    Scotto, the latter days Caballe, Marton, Behrens, Meier, the latter days Jones .......and now Netrebko. A long line of singers who re-define the words "totally at sea".

  • @spevoljub
    @spevoljub Рік тому +1

    Terribly bad

  • @ESilva-gw9ig
    @ESilva-gw9ig 5 років тому

    I like her, but not in lady Macbeth. She simply doesn't have the type of voice for this role. She should stick to lyrical roles rather than pushing her voice to sing heavier ones.

  • @melinamendoza3249
    @melinamendoza3249 9 років тому +1

    Netrebko es grandiosa. pero ninguna como la Callas

  • @lolawho8676
    @lolawho8676 3 роки тому

    She should stay in her fach ... “Traviata” and Mozart operas ...
    Not good in dramatic roles, sorry ...

  • @KathrynARyder
    @KathrynARyder 10 років тому +4

    Is she pregnant again? Why is she costumed so unflatteringly? I understand that she is singing these roles now because she no longer can even sing a high Dflat but maybe Desdemona or Elizabeth de Valois would suit her limited vocal capabilities now. This was just awful.

  • @Samuel6969ify
    @Samuel6969ify 8 років тому +1

    Grande la Netrebko alla Scala in Giovanna d'Arco ma del tutto inadatta in questo ruolo che intelligentemente credo abbia abbandonato. Come ha abbandonato l'idea di cantare Norma a Londra. Brava e intelligente Anna che capisce quali ruoli scegliere per essere oggi la prima1 Qua è penosa e sembra una satira della Lady!

    • @37Mirko
      @37Mirko 7 років тому

      Anna è tornata a cantare la Lady a Monaco in questi giorni. Il successo tedesco e newyorkese di due anni fa l'hanno di certo convinta a riproporre il ruolo e nei prossimi mesi altre eroine verdiane l'aspettano

    • @Samuel6969ify
      @Samuel6969ify 7 років тому +2

      Rimango della mia opinione, nonostante il successo in Germania e in USA, dove non ne capiscono granchè di opera italiana. In altri ruoli verdiani poterebbe anche raggiungere buoni risultati ma non come Lady, dove altre hanno raggiunto vertici artisti insuperabili, vedi Callas e Verrett.

  • @bodiloto
    @bodiloto 7 років тому +2

    vocalità poco adatta à questo capolavoro .
    questa è la mia modesta opinione.

  • @TheBaronescarpia
    @TheBaronescarpia 7 років тому +1

    che regia agghiacciante.....

  • @gustavoanmosura
    @gustavoanmosura 10 років тому

    bravisima