James Dowling - Rolex Scholar - Talks Vintage and the Trajectory of the Watch Market
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2019
- James Dowling - collector, author, and Rolex scholar - discusses the ephemeral essence of fashion as it applies to the watch category in an insightful conversation with Tim. In this special feature filmed at Dubai Watch Week, the two discuss attitudes about vintage, the trajectory of the watch market over the last 20+ years, the herd mentality, the underappreciated Oyster Quartz, and much more…you definitely will want to watch this interview more than once to get it all in!
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During the interview, even James can't believe the sunglasses are on his head.
Important interview. Imho an honest analysis that strongly reinforces the messages that the watch collecting social media , including Tim , have been informing us of for years. Buy what you enjoy is most important. Lean towards high quality and good value and dont expect a watch to be an investment. Its a hobby for enthusiasts - not economists. Many thanks.
Man, his insight on Rolex and watches in general is such a refreshing take. Especially his take on the life cycle of a Rolex owner is so true.
One of the best interviews from Watchbox Studios! Great questions and great answers from two great "watch minds"!
Having grown up in this business I know exactly word for word and totally understand what he's trying to explain, stop following the herd and what no one wants today will be 8n demand tomorrow, great episode to close the year, happy new year
It was nice to hear and see the legend himself again after him being semi retired. I went trough the same stages as him and lots of others. High horology is nice but a Rolex is just part of your life...
Great idea to bring him in for this interview!!!
ZS Exactly, Rolex becomes part of your life.
I loved the honesty in this video. Something a lot of people refuse to accept is that in a very modern future, the Rolex watches that are worth a fortune now , 'might' not be very valuable at all. Fashion can be fickle, and no one knows for certain what will be popular in the future.
Great interview and great guests. I truly appreciate his Rolex analogy. Thanx Tim and crew. 👍
Absolutely loved this video, thank you and happy new year to all!!
Excellent interview. Bottom line is buy a watch that speaks to you, do not follow any trend, and never buy a watch expecting it to be an investment.
Should've told me this last year. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought all those Squalles & Stowas. 😢 The rat said they were absolutely exquisite.
Great interview!!!
It was great to hear from a watch collector who likes
watches, not just the return on investment.
Yeah, but u have to remember a lot of these collectors have inherited wealth and rich patrimony, AND bought these watches when they were still within reach of the middle class...
@@redatticus7606 One person who didn't inherit his wealth, someone who has purchased loads of watches. Not really a watch collector, but 'Roman Sharf'.
There are loads of other people who have got into collecting watches, and for no 'investment' reason, and don't come from wealthy families. That includes me. I am a self made person, I have a big watch collection. With some extremely valuable watches , and I love my Hamilton Khaki Pilot poineer, a era correct 33mm military watch, I recently purchased, just as much as my 'feet first' Red label Vintage Submariner. I get good deals from Authorised Dealers too, no grey market with my new watches. Obviously this doesn't include Rolex Stainless steel professional sports models. Luckily I got my Rolex watches before this crazy current situation.
I love all my watches, and I really don't care what they may be worth in the future. My children will be looked after, but I will encourage them to keep my watch collection between them. Having said that, I am also completely fine if they prefer to sell my collection. I think there are plenty of watch collectors who do it because they love watches and the value is irrelevant. I personally don't judge my watches as investments, just something I enjoy collecting.
Terrific and thought provoking interview
Just an excellent discussion. Thanks Tim!
The more I listen to this man , the more I love what he has to say.
I love James Dowling from my time on Timezone, almost 20 years ago. I had to chuckle when he mentioned that article "The progression of a Rolex Owner", which I read many, many years ago, and had forgotten about it. But it very much mirrors my own experience (minus the Omega stage). Started with a couple of Oris, then a Panerai, then a Rolex 16570, then went (heavily) into Rolex vintage, then JLC / IWC. Eventually got a Lange, which I love, but only wear it in special occasions. The rest of the time, I wear my latest Datejust and just forget about it.
Fantastic interview! What a pleasure to listen to Mr. Dowling’s perspective on watch collection! Especially his comments about the bubble backs.
Thanks for the wonderful interview Tim. Please do more like this!
Insightful and intelligent. Breath of fresh air.
James has pointed out many points that I personally experienced and whole heartedly agree with. As a watch lover & collector, we love complicatons, beautiful craftmanship, interesting design but Rolex is the watch I always wear without any worry or concern. It is strange but thats the power of Rolex. Excellent interview!
Great interview Tim! So much knowledge to digest here. Taking notes.
Refreshing take on this crazy market
Tim - G Damn buddy! James Dowling for a sit down - best ever. Enjoyed the interview. Only you could pull this off with proper gravitas. Danny G needs to pay you more!
I agree with his opinion on the gold Day-Dates. Bought a vintage one and absolutely love it.
Great interview Tim.
So nice to see so much watch saviness together!
Best,
Amintas
Wonderful and honest! Thanks for doing this interview!
What a great interview! Please more of that
Great interview. Great socks. Thanks as always Tim.
Lovely interview
Wisdom overload. Loved it
My dad had a Rolex in the 1950s, I have a Rolex now ( or really 2 Rolex watches ) Regardless of how the value of these watches varies, it does not matter, if the value goes up or down , these are absolutely classic watches with history attached. I still love them.
What an awesome interview. It was so interesting listening to this guy.👍🏻🙏🏻
Brilliant interview!
Fantastic content! Thank you!
Informative! Thanks.
Probably the best advice on YT
A very interesting interview. Two experts at work here. Thank you! Special props to Tim for finding a watch that perfectly matches his sunglasses. Must be the ultimate grail watch I assume? ;-)
Tim, your absolutely right. It is an off shoot of the principle that in any argument, the amount of emotional intensity is inversely proportional to the issue at argument.
absolutely great stuff here, great guy, just interesting and good content.
This is THE INTERVIEW the watch world needed right now. This guy + Jean-Claude Biver are really clued in seemingly in an endless sea of people who are not.
Great interview. Would love to see a “talking watches” style video with this collector!
Great interview!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Great interview!
Superb interview.
Great chat!
So, what would James think about the reference 1530 and 1630?
Great interview
Awesome interview.Rolex royalty
THXX U for this video and i wish to see ... his own collection to this Guy and happy new year to U .
Awesome content !!!
T Mos what watch are you wearing?
Amazing interview. The watches are like every other luxury product...fashion creates the hype.
The sunglasses are killing me from taking this seriously
Justin Davison Strongly agreed! He looks foolish and undermines his own credibility, which is unfortunate.
Justin Davison was looking for the first one to comment on this 😂
Agree...and they're upside down.
Bought a two toned Turn-O-Graph with Jubilee in ‘86, sold it for a Breguet...bought a preowned Black Cerachrom GMT ‘09. Sold it last year after returning.
Looking for a steel Skydweller while missing them both...
Fantastic content.
Bought his book "Best of Time" in 1997, awesome guy!
You can't be serious with those sunglasses mounted upside down on your head. I actually laughed out loud.
OPnoob I made the same comment on his last interview. Apparently they aren’t shades. It’s a growth on his head and he can’t remove them. He’s tried.
Exactly ! Slap that Rolex and wear it proud! Great show and advise.
Future is in complications watches. Interesting outlook from from this gentlemen.
That last passage rings so true about wearing and not worrying.
However now there are people buying "slap it on the wrist and don't worry about it" Rolex watches and then keeping them in the safe until they are discontinued so they can sell them as NOS. I really like Rolex watches, but I like to wear the bloody things! I don't just like Rolex of course, there's loads of great stuff out there.
Tim .. Those Glasses Really..
James is visionary. The switch to big 42-60mm watches started in 2004 and came to an end 2017 - the fashionista and smart money is now ploughing money into smaller Rolexes and Tudors eg 34mm precision, 36 DJ and DD, Perpetual, glorious 34mm Tudor Tuxedo, crosshair, art deco dial - Also Tudor small block chronos 79260/70/80 Batton dial and funky coloured Arabic dials are insanely cheap at the moment - will double in value 6-8 yrs !!
Loved that.
Fantastic!
“Fashion has a huge role to play” Like wearing your sunglasses upside down on your head.
Spot on. I was about to ask why on earth is this bloke wearing his gross Oakley’s on his head for this interview? A great way to lower the tone and reduce his own credibility.
Agreed. He looks like a tool.
Shocked that nobody behind the camera suggested he removes his glasses from his head. To me, it just destroys his image of professionalism. Tim is no doubt a knowledgeable pro in the watch industry, this was a poor decision on his part though.
Agreed.
Unfortunately the younger generation have no idea how ridiculous they look sometimes... like wearing ones baseball cap backwards!
Good interview. I’m skipping the Lange phase and sticking with my BLNR for life. Ok, I may buy a Darth Lange someday...
I agree about the day-dates, especially in 36mm. Can’t wish for the better Rolex watch made out of precious metals with some very beautiful dials. Those watches will always be collectibles. Second to that is OP36 with stella dials, especially yellow. The third is Datejust with motif dial again in 36mm.
Great collector and well said everything
How rich is rich?..you define it yourself..best thing I got from this video..
Tim, which Rolex was he wearing?
Excellent👍
There is a real issue with this interview that i can't get passed. Woefully short. Could listen to a 90 min episode with these two no problem at all.
Thanks for watching BOTH of our James Dowling interviews. For others that feel the same way, here's another interview with James and Tim: ua-cam.com/video/tikef09NAu8/v-deo.html
Trusted old submariner is still in fashion 60 years on, will it stay this way? Only time will tell, great interview really enjoyed it, thanks guys
For me, the love of watches is what makes the real collector, regardless of the piece's market value, and the gentleman's line of thought reflects just that.
The inherent value of an object depends on the subject and not the way it is previewed by others. That is the market value, and ie like the stock exchange, it will vary through time and can suffer all sorts of manipulation, like we see today with all the click-bait post in social media with the word Rolex, or not...
Thank you for keeping us informed Tim, once again. Cheers
That smile and wink tho. Priceless.
where was the wink?
@@AbstractMan23 @ 7:41
@@AtilioEscobar ha good one! i missed that.
Very nice
James Dowling is amazing though
Did the interviewer say “dosey do”?
Two legends. One that is established and the other in the making.
In the making? Do you mean Dowling? Because Tim is already a legend!
Interesting man, would love to see his collection and how he bought his watches.
Follow him on Instagram, he posts a fair bit and there’s always interesting stories
I bet its usually with money.
DG B
MR.Downing is “The Rolex man”
He has the first books about the Brand and a collector way before Rolex became what it is today !
A real lover of the brand !
Yes Fashion, accelerated by Social Media...
Im surprised to see that even James hasn't figured out a highly likely cause of this SS craze is watchfinder. They unrealistically boosted the price to increase there margins and gave the impression that "because this watch is double it's retail on this website, I need to do everything I can to get one at retail". I don't think anybody takes watchfinders influence that seriously but I work in the trade and it's literally everybody's reference point for second hand pricing now. Giving the impression that these pieces were a lot more sought after than they initially were has now actually created ridiculous demand.
The world is much, much, much bigger than the UK you know. The references everybody uses are C24 and eBay sold prices.
Fun talk, I never thought about the Oyster Quartz!
Clyve watch wrangler is/was obsessing about them. They are rare birds...
He is off to cash in on his stash after this interview
@@ciaradonnelly4627 Could well be...
@@n.sc.4558 False. he is obsessing about the rare birds...they are oyster quartz cases with mechanical movements..even more rare than the OQ
@@jonnybreakz Right. You've earned your Doctor of Laws now.
Does James knows if the Rolex "Blueberry" GMT-Master is an official production piece?
Ones with the UAE logos on them 'could' be genuine.
My Local Rolex AD used to regularly sell Genuine green anniversary submariner bezels, not sure if Rolex knew, but apparently it was very common. So , I would say , most of the Blueberry GMT's are manufactured. Are some genuine?
'Maybe'. Bob's watches seems to think he can tell a genuine one. Personally I wouldn't buy one.
I have my 'feet first' Red label Submariner on now. Am I sure all the parts inside of it are genuine to the original watch ? If I am 100% honest, I would have to say 'no'. I 'think' the crown and face are original , but I still think Vintage Rolex is a minefield. Also who is the expert? There are so many in the business. John Mayor originallly tried to sue Bob Maron for selling him vintage Rolex watches with 'spare parts' in them, he eventually withdrew his lawsuit. So it must be virtually impossible to prove.
i dont get why this kind of stuff gets so less likes...
All the knowledge , passion and enthusiasm that Tim and James have and the bulk of the comments concentrate on Tim's trademark Oakley's . Jesus Christ !!!!!
I laughed around the 10:30-11:00 min mark. Hilarious.
The Best of Time: Rolex Wristwatches : An Unauthorized History by James Dowling (1995 hardcover)
Rolex oyster-quartz now about to surge in value.
At least he can pronounce Rolex properly! Great knowledge though of course!
Archie has many of the same point that James has brought up...it's quite shocking.
Archie does have some insight when he actually talks watches and stops begging for money ...
love the upside down glasses. better to be different than the same as everyone else! they even discuss sheep mentality during the interview...
Speaking of fashion... I am doing a interview tomorrow actually... definitely wearing my sunglasses on my head during it ( upside down of course). FFS.
don't for get to pair it with a two watches and make sure one matches the glasses
Great video. Speaking of fashion, the position of the sunglasses In the head of the interviewer is new fashion, showing off or simply bad taste?.
He considers it his trademark however it is just bad taste and he gets mocked about it constantly
I'm going to go buy every Oysterquartz I see now. Haha, jk James Dowling.
Tim, you are the hippest of the UA-cam watch nerds. No offense meant to the old git, but you are THE Rolex scholar, and the Omega, A. Lange & Sohne, Grubel Forsey, Glaschutte Original, Patek Philippe, Grand Seiko, IWC, JLC, Panerai scholar.
Between two ferns.😎
Great interview and content, but it’s difficult to give sincerity to someone wearing goofy green sunglasses on their head like a six year old.
James Dowling self proclaimed old git wearing red socks and electric blue suede loafers and Tim young dude reciprocates with millenial cool of wearing green neon shades upside down indoors on his head. classic 😉
James Dowling’s great - no pretense at all! I really like Rolex for the abuse the abuse they manage. I would never subject my little Calatrava to any of that.
Tim I swear I would throw those glasses if I ever met u 😁