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Utah is in a good position to land a Major League Baseball expansion team, but weather and elevation could throw a curveball at plans for a team.
Now retired, Park City resident Tommy Tanzer used to represent Major League Baseball players and managers as they negotiated contracts with teams.
Tanzer praised the proposal to build a baseball stadium in the Fairpark neighborhood west of downtown Salt Lake City on the KPCW Locals New Hour Friday.
“The place where the stadium is very smart,” Tanzer said. “The fairgrounds is a beautiful, big area. It’s underutilized. It’s halfway between downtown and the airport right on the tracks, it’s perfect.”
Utah is aiming to attract the MLB, which has discussed adding two expansion teams. Major sports leagues are turning to the Beehive State amid strong population growth. Professional hockey will debut in Salt Lake City this fall after Utah Jazz owner Ryan Smith acquired the Arizona Coyotes for $1.2 billion last month.
The baseball stadium plan has financial support from the Utah Legislature and the Larry H. Miller Group, the former owner of the Utah Jazz.
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SLC is rapidly becoming a sports destination. Landing a MLB will be a huge step for the city and state.
Kudos to everyone in Utah for coming together in a big way to say "We're here and we're READY!" ... What's that old saying, there's no such thing as luck -- luck is where opportunity meets preparation -- never more true than here.
As an A's fan who just moved to SLC area, you can imagine my excitement when I saw those "UTAH WANTS THE A'S" billboards
I love the, “if you don’t run to your position, someone else will”
Thank you for another SLC story (and for reading my question first on the q/a episode)! Great stuff as always. The best part of NHL to SLC was stumbling across your page. Love your stuff, Brodi!
We might seriously be looking at the Utah Athletics very soon.
Not very soon, it will take a few years for Utah to build the baseball stadium
Brodie, there were billboards thru out the Salt Lake Valley in Feb/March with the words, “Utah wants the A’s” they were already trying to do what the SEG eventually did.
He knows, he’s made videos about that already
As a huge MLB fan, having a team here in SLC would be a dream come true.
Brodie! Thank you so much for all the videos. I not only love watching your content covering Utah, but all of your other videos as well. Keep it up!!
I am thinking that Utah winds up getting the A’s instead of Vegas.
Hope so!
Well, with the many flaws unraveling with the new ballpark and the ungodly amount of legal hurdles, the team has to clear it's possible if things fall through. However, with Fisher and his group being a bunch of money hucking buffoons and the deal already being somewhat locked in, it is highly unlikely. But hey, we can only hope.
The Golden Knights have given Las Vegas the sports bug, and the people have spoken. They don't want someone else's team, thats only really there because Oakland is a shithole. They want their own team.
It would be nice.
@@666kingdrummer are you saying they want another team other than the Raiders?
I hope this happens! Lifetime Utahn and I love the Jazz and RSL. I can't wait to cheer for the NHL team, and baseball would be amazing. Let's go!
As a University of Utah grad, though a Californian through and through, I am all for this. MLB, NBA, NHL, plus a major college team in the Utah Utes, SLC will be a “major league” city. And byu-Provo will continue to be irrelevant.
Love Provo, but love even more how BYU continues to slip further and further into irrelevancy.
@@nicko5945 byu-provo should relegated to a Division III conference.
@@nicko5945 I guess you did not get the news flash regarding Ryan Smith who owns the majority of the professional teams in Utah and his commitment to BYU. Who knew?
@@dfausti66 keep crying with your third reply to this thread haha. BYU will continue to mean absolutely nothing on the national stage. As for Smith, I don’t hold his BYU attendance against him.
@@dfausti66 One immoral billionaire is no different than another immoral billionaire. They're all the same. And byu-provo is still an academically challenged, division III school with nothing to offer to the world. Go Utes.
We also just got the PGA tour to come to St George once a year.
Look how close the original Sandlot movie field is to the Utah fair grounds
As someone who spends at least 1 summer week in SLC a year and as someone who attended the U of U, the power district is a great location for away fans/visitors wanting to fly in for baseball. Most western U.S city require a rental car or a lot of every expensive Uber rides when flying into a given city. The power district is a like a 12 minute light-rail train ride from SLC Airport. Historically that site area has been in a "rough for Salt Lake" part of town, so the stadium and buildout would revitalize the surrounding community. As hotels, bars, and the entertainment district gets built up next to the proposed MLB stadium, out-of-towners can fly in, stay, and see baseball for what looks like a fast and assumably affordable option. It's funny that retail car tax increase pays for a stadium yet many travelers wont be required to rent a car when attending baseball in SLC. NHL fans visiting have a ~25 min train ride when staying near Delta Center/city center.
Out of state people mainly go to Utah for the outdoor activities I.e. skiing, hiking, camping, visiting national parks, etc., who rent cars for those activities rather than going to sporting events.
If the commissioner is wise, he will convince the owner of the Athletics to sell the team to the Utah group.
The problem is fisher will threaten a lawsuit until we end up with the same situation as the Coyotes, where Fisher somehow secures a new team.
@@KWally I don’t think Fisher wants that the only thing he would complain about is the fact that if he were to sell, the team there would be taxes on it
Unfortunately, he is not.
Heard Utah is also getting: THe Brodie Brazils,peewee hockey team.
If Ryan Smith and Gail Miller bring the NFL to Salt Lake City by purchasing the Arizona Cardinals from Michael Bidwill for $6.6 billion, the Cardinals will have to use Rice-Eccles Stadium on the University of Utah campus as their temporary home for the next 3 years until the new $2 billion 72,500-seat fixed roof stadium on the Days of 47 Arena site is built and open in time for the 2028 NFL season.
Us Utahns are hungry for home teams to support. We’ll be ALL IN when they get here. It’s a beautiful state, with a lot of close-knit families to fill the stands with. Let’s Goooo 👌🏻
Too bad not enough fans to spend thousands and thousands of dollars for years and years on season tickets for a second division squad.
@@cousinit718 they’ve spent a lot of money on Jazz games for a lot of terrible years, and kept filling seats, so that’s not accurate. We’re not New York where you’ll fill any game with casuals, we’ll fill games with diehards.
There are only so many cities in any country that can logically support a Professional major league team, its amazing that its taken them this long to consider Las Vegas and Salt Lake City as viable markets.
My guess is mlb will wait and see how the market is after having the nhl for a few years, if its still really good then for sure they could be the next area to go to.
I think SLC would need a retractable roof. Spring weather can be crazy in that area.
That's what I was thinking. It would have to be a dome stadium.
The weather isn’t any crazier than any other city. Plus a dome would hide the mountain backdrop, which would be the star if the stadium
They pull it off in Denver
No
Hope not, dome stadiums are garbage.
I don't think the White Sox would ever leave Chicago, they just have way too much history there and I think the MLB would do anything in their power to keep them somewhere in the Chicago area.
I think the most likely scenarios for Utah getting an MLB team would be through expansion (with another team in the East like Nashville, Orlando, or Montreal, bringing the total number of teams to 32), relocating the Tampa Bay Rays, or relocating the A's to Salt Lake instead of Las Vegas if that whole situation doesn't work out.
I bet they get an MLB relo announced sometime in the next 2 years, maybe even sooner. We have like 6 teams either threatening to move or in the process of moving
For the NHL, does the commissioner work for the owners similar to how it’s laid out in the MLB?
What could have been at Oaklands Howards Terminal it appears you are using the La Rinconada model from Caracas Venezuela which is the is the original Howards Terminal model meaning the ownership of the A's is likely to get pouched twice
SLC (west) and Nashville (east) will get the 2 expansion teams shortly after the new Rays ballpark in St. Pete is fully financed and construction begins (really bad idea BTW - build it in Tampa or Orlando). If the A's stay in Sacramento and build a new MLB ballpark there because Fisher can't get a ballpark built in Vegas, LV probably gets the expansion team in the west as I bet a new ownership group steps in and gets it done, and SLC will be forced to look for a relocation situation.
Expansion is not going to happen until after 2030
@michaelmarkowski204 you know Tampa doesn't have the money for a Ballpark and Orlando is a long shot.
@@michaelleroy9281why after 2030?
@@michaelleroy9281 The two expansion teams will be chosen and the ballparks built before that. They'll be playing ball by 2030.
Why, why, WHY is St Pete making the same mistake?! "We draw like a minor-league team (even when we're in the playoffs!); Everyone says the stadium sucks (it does); Everyone says the location sucks (it does); but THIS time it will be different." NO IT WON'T. Build it in Tampa or move to Orlando. It's NOT rocket science!
I bet SLC has MLB in the next 10 years and the NFL in the next 20. It’s too fast a growing market and young. Delta airlines hub and big name company sponsor deals: Too many rust belt cities that can’t support their teams right now. They will make more money in SLC and money talks. Same goes for Nashville and Austin they are prime markets
I still hold out hope Brodie, that Fisher gives up and just sells the team to an investor in the Oakland area. I think all the pushback will eventually weigh on him. All we can do is hold out hope, right?
Not to be Debbie Downer but I don’t understand the hope and assumptions that Fischer will sell to a local owner? He’s more likely to sell to Miller in Utah where he can get a better price
Brody, how do you think Portland compares to SLC in getting a MLB team? Do you think they could beat SLC in a bid for expansion or relocation? Thanks for your awesome videos.
White Sox and Rays are pretty vulnerable to relocate.
White Sox might be safe if Reinsdorf dies soon
What if mlb does the same as the nhl did. Make fisher sell team to Utah, then give him 5 years to build an mlb stadium with a guaranteed expansion if he does it.
The NHL threw in the bonus of the Coyotees name / history staying in Arizona. Would MLB do the same?
Really? A 1.5% tax on car rentals by NON-RESIDENTS will be enough to fund a stadium? Hmmm. I wonder what is the fall back if those taxes aren't sufficient for funding?
He misspoke. It’s the rental tax AND all the sales tax generated in the Power District that are funding it. So, in essence, it’s funding itself since that area, currently, isn’t generating tax revenue (or much).
Do you know how many people come to Utah to ski who rent cars condos and hotels? Do you know how much the Olympics will rake in?
From what I get is that an expansion team is the prefered but nobody knows when that happens. Question is if they get a team to move here who will own the franchise and does the team that comes want to sell? The MLB group is obviously well planned out beyond just exploring to have or not have an MLB team but ready for either expansion or a move and once decided on the design of the stadium shovels are ready to go. Even moving the Bee's out of Salt Lake city south but keeping it in the valley as their triple A team, with a new minor league stadium is serious business. Millers already own the Salt Lake AAA Bee's. Wonder what happens to Smith field where they play now? Smith field is a very nice ballpark with somewhere of 10 to 14k capacity. Funding, land and with the Miller group experience in major league ownership. It is possible that they are even closer or further along to having a franchise than anyone knows or realizes.
Wouldn't it be sweet irony if the Brewers moved to Utah?
MLB Padres will future relocate from S/D to SLC as the Utah Mormons.
I wish you worked for sny
Were you okay with the Rams moving to Stl? You weren’t cool with their return to LA.
The Los Angeles Chargers may be looking for a new home. Salt Lake City could be a great place for the franchise to land. A stadium for the A's and the Chargers would be a better play for Utah than the A's alone. The Chargers have already lost their market in San Diego and now are playing second fiddle to the Rams in Los Angeles. Why don't we just move them to Utah and show them what a real rabid fanbase is like with a new stadium to match.
Great video! Absolutely loving the glow up Utah is experiencing right now!
With the A's essentially Vegas bound, who is the next team most likely to relocate?
No one until after 2027 when Tampa Bay Rays lease expires
Fisher has yet been able to get the financing for the potential move ..All those renderings were nothing but bullshit to stall and buy time to try to get investors .. Nobody wants to be in business with Fisher other than his buddy who owns the Sacramento Kings ..
Being a Cubs fan it would be sad tp see the White Sox relocate. However the spilt between the number of Cubs & White Sox fans is very large. The Cubs in addition to a local Chicago fan base also have a regional & national fan base. The White Sox are just not as popular. Not too many people would miss the Whote Sox if the team relocated. The Cubs World Series team in 2016 got a lot more media attention than the White Sox 2005 World Series team.
Just like with any team, it all starts with ownership. If your owner sucks, your team is doomed in the long run. And we all know that Reinsdorf sucks.
Sac keeps the A's, SLC gets the expansion MLB team, Vegas gets no MLB team because MLB doesn't belong there. Who wants to sit in a stadium and watch a game when it's 118 degrees? Vegas is going to get an NBA team in the near future anyway, which is a better fit.
This just reinforces my belief that if Las Vegas falls through, the A's will not stay in Sacramento or end up back in Oakland. Unless Joe Lacob somehow comes in to save the day. And even then, I think he's probably more keen on having a team in the south bay. Which the MLB said is possible via expansion. Which is ridiculous BTW since they blocked the A's from moving there via arbitrary territorial nonsense.
What's with the other stadium shown in those renderings? Looks too small for football, and UU has its own stadium on campus. RSL already has a nice stadium too.
The Utah state fairgrounds
i still dont know if Vegas ever gets a shovel in the ground the A's ownership group sounds like the Coyotes ownership group and don't have any money to spend on the team needs it seem like Utah will get a MLB do they go after a NFL team later down the road
While admittedly the Coyotes situation was well played, and the NHL deftly made a hectic, but relatively smooth transfer to the SEG, MLB is a clown car enterprise that has repeatedly demonstrated that it can't do anything of the sort. While I would be all for any scheme that extracts John Fisher from the A's, the overall predicament of Baseball is so dire that Utah may have bought itself an invitation to a party that is already winding down. The A's are merely the one team in full conflagration, but there are no fewer than six other teams where the figurative dumpsters are smoldering, and a half a dozen others that are match ready. Two years from now the entire American League may look like Devil's Night in Detroit (ironic how the Tigers are one of the safer teams). The gist of which Utah may find itself as one of three or four mid-market teams that remain, and which under Baseball's income distribution rules, don't stand a chance at being competitiive...
It's gonna end up being the A's
I really like Utah especially Moab, but going from 1 pro team to 3 pro teams vertically overnight. That’s a lot to ask for any market. Next thing you know there will be rumors that an NFL team coming to Salt Lake City. Seems like a lot to take on but more power to them if they can pull it off.
The NFL is unlikely to ever come to Salt Lake City mainly because of how popular the college game is. Both the Utah Utes & BYU have massive followings in the state & they would be quite upset if the NFL decided to come in & take away fans especially Utah since they play in Salt Lake City at Rice Eccles Stadium. Speaking of Rice Eccles Stadium, it only seats 51,000 which is way below the NFL minimum of 60,000 & I am sure the Utes would not want to pay for an expansion to the stadium just for an NFL team to play there for a few years while their new stadium is being built. There is also no ownership group that is interested in bringing a team to the area. Because of these factors, the NFL (should it decide to expand) will likely look at larger cities like London or Toronto instead of Salt Lake City.
If the White Sox relocate to the West, then the Astros would have to move into the Central.
If the Rays relocate to the West, then the Astros go to the Central, and the Guardians move to the East.
That’s the only way I see realignment happening.
The Houston Astros were once in the NL Central then moved to the AL West. It would be nice to see the Astros move back to the NL Central or AL Central. Another idea is to move the Astros back to the NL Central & the Rockies to the AL West if the Utah team is an AL team. I do not know how the AL West rivalry between the Rangers & Astros is like.
Move the Brewers back to the AL and put the Astros back in the NL. Astros go back to NL Central, Brewers go to AL east and Ray's go to AL west.
They don't have enough people to pay thousands and thousands of dollars tobuy season tickets for years and years.
There's plenty of people along the Wasatch front (the urban SLC area of 2.8 million people) that are within a 45 minute drive of downtown SLC.
Can a metro population of 1.2m really support 3 pro sports teams
Drive 5 minutes to the north of the stadium and you enter into another metro area of a million+ so that 1.2 m is a bit misleading and why you have these teams calling themselves Utah instead of Salt Lake. I believe the 1.2m is a very conservative estimate anyway, I think it is more than that. That isn't even mentioning Tooele to the west which is a straight shot to downtown and Utah co. to the south of a 500k+, which is about an hour drive from say the Provo-Orem area to Salt Lake city. I live in the Salt Lake valley in Draper. If I left to go to a game downtown Salt Lake and a person in say north of the SL metro did the same, we both leave at the same time and drive the same speed, they would get there probably 15-20 minutes before I would. It really would be more of how many are baseball fans than it is being big enough population. My guess MLB works in Utah.
@@ckstaffnot only that, but that combined statistical area makes up the vast majority of Utah’s population
2.8 million within 45 minutes of downtown SLC
No you call them the Battle Bunnies and to answer a question you had. A red wing is a black bird
Poaching 3 teams. Nice Utah
Would SLC sports fans sellout all the sports stadiums & arenas like other cities such as NYC, LA, Chicago etc ? 🤔
Doubtful that Utah can support three major league franchises. Two is enough in the coming economic climate.
Mlb needs to get rid of the territory rights for teams
I think the elevation will be an issue for MLB
No. The Rockies are at a higher elevation.
@@Carrollavirus that's true, but there are also issues in Phoenix, and they are at a lower altitude than SLC
Utah Double Blacks. Or Utah Black Diamonds. I.e. New Zealand All Blacks rugby team
I’m surprised Utah hasn’t landed a wnba team as well
They used to have one years ago, but it moved, or folded up.
@@CarrollavirusThey moved to San Antonio and subsequently Las Vegas.
The WNBA Utah Stars relocated to San Antonio to become the Silver Stars, then got sold & relocated to become the Las Vegas Aces. So the original Utah Stars WNBA franchise still exists in Las Vegas.
MLB would be much bigger than NHL in utah but id trade them both for NFL.
Might az well poach the dbacks from arizona. They're not gonna give them a new stadium.
I wonder how many car rentals they actually get in Utah. Yeah I guess anyone out of state on business or ski trips in the greater Salt Lake City metro area is the main source. But how many is that really?
As for people going to the national parks all in the southern part of the state, most of them fly into Vegas, rent a car here and then drive to Zion or Bryce Canyon etc.
SLC / Northern Utah has a VERY robust tourism market with several world class mountain resorts within about an hour of SLC airport. More than half of Utah's visitors come to the Salt Lake Metro, including Salt Lake, Park City, and Utah County. Tourism directly contributes about $12 Billion per year in Utah, and drives about $2 billion in total resulting tax revenue per year.
SLC is a major hub for Delta Airlines and tourism is huge in SLC
First hehe
Is this show moving to Utah? Or are you just using Utah as leverage?
Professional sports invading Utah is a trojan horse for online gambling... Nothing more nothing less
Utah doesn't need an mlb team after they poached the coyotes.
Poached?? 😂😂😂
Poached? Maybe if it were a better run team in Arizona they'd still be there?
Coyotes were anything but poached, team was playing in a college arena that was inadequate. Millions and millions of losses over 25 years in the desert. It was long overdue to relocate that team.
Honestly as a coyotes fan I don’t think the Ryan Smith poached the Coyotes. It was incompetent leadership by AM and better arena situation being available in Utah. I believe they wanted an expansion team anyways
This wasn't a poaching situation. Smith was asked to participate by Bettman and the process was transparent. If you want an example of a poaching situation, try the Seattle Sonics relocation to OKC.
Before SLC gets a MLB teams Houston the nations 4th largest city should get an NHL team
Salt Lake City should include a new NFL expansion team!❄❄❄❄❄❄🏟🏟🏟🏟🏟🏟🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈
Utah needs a stadium
If Utah gets 3 of the 4 major sports leagues to come here that would be so amazing and I know we can’t wait to support our teams! 🏀🏒⚾️
Remember they got MLS and a title. A women’s team that sells.
Utah is going to to be boomin
Don’t know why this didn’t happen a decade ago
NFL could work in SLC, just where do you build a stadium?
@@TheBoyer19 Also who would build it? NFL works anywhere, would work in SLC but there is no NFL group or stadium, not even any plans for a stadium.
College football is too popular, I think, to bring NFL.
@@ckstaff yeah I don't see the SEG or the LHM groups having any appetite of getting a team