If they are in the business of electronic health records, they should not be able to use that information *for anything else* even if it is for internal marketing or vertically integrated products. 10 years from now the headline will be *Big Tech Wants Your Soul*
@@Taklsdjw093 part of me shares your sentiment, and part of me thinks we're better than this. We got luered into this no privacy garbage after 9/11. It has defined my adult life. I shouldn't be for sale. I work in IT btw. I enable this BS. *_Stand Up_*
@@daveb2280 Yeah, I don't know why anyone would willfully agree to this. Big Tech has proven time and time again that it doesn't respect privacy, cannot regulate itself and is unworthy of trust. And it goes way back. The earliest example I can think of was Eric Schmidt retroactively altering the Google EULA and then lying publicly about it; 2006 I believe, but could be wrong. I'm trained as a network engineer but I have been so disgusted by the industry and the dystopia I believe they are creating that I walked away from it a couple years ago. I haven't been on social media since '08. I rarely carry a cell phone. It's ubiquitous; data collection that is. We are the raw materials in an emerging surveillance capitalism.
@@daveb2280 its depressing af. I remember when the internet was full of hope and possibility; when people from all over and all walks of life actually had civil debates about things. Much of the internet is just gross to me now.
Health records? How about your doctors laptop or phone in the exam room with you. It's so very naive to think that that any device is secure from eavesdropping.
The real problem is that the USA SPEND MORE THAN ANY OTHER. COUNTRIES IN PUBLIC HEALTH CARES IN DOLLARS AND IN %OF GDP.Medical expenses are hig in the us because the state doesn’t control prices
Mostly due to poor white Americans being manipulated to vote against their own interests. They've been miseducated into thinking that making rich people more wealthy is the key to freedom. In exchange politicians promise and sometimes enforce policies that harm minorities, gun and abortion rights.
Thats why I'm hesitant to use any fitness app or buy and one of those fitness watches. I knew these tech companies would try to get their hands on people's health info!
Uhh. I’m trying to be more informed about issues that we face in this world (I’m 14). But I get super bored watching long videos. Can you guys do like a compressed version of your videos for younger viewers with shorter attention spans? Thanks😊
"No encryption is perfect; all it takes is time to get through the encryption." It takes almost the age of the universe to revert good encryption. "Data expert"... sure.
Looked him up he is not involved in computer data. He studied data linking quality of service price and other factors not computers. Technically he is right .the computer neccessary to crack decent encryption (kind used for long term storage of important data) without the key would be impossible. Hacking itself is an issue but normally by somebody having the decrypted data (end user) or not properly storing the key.
fck you really that naive and think the motivated guys dont have enough brain power and low moral to find ways to break encryptions with new generation of quantum computers and some help with older leaked data? dont be so naive dude. The NSA is already saving massive amounts of encrypted data for later decryptions
What happens is people find a way to bypass that, and/or get the key. Given enough time, vulnerabilities might be found. Noone's spending time to bruteforce things.
@BlackDawg UNIVERSAL means everyone pays for it and everyone gets to use it. Access isn't enough when money is a barrier for service and treatment. I mean, public schools, roads, fire departments, police services, libraries, the military, and much more are provided by the government via taxes. Single-payer healthcare works in all industrialized countries like England, Canada, Australia, South Korea, and Japan. If the United States is (supposedly) the best country in the world, we could do a much better job with healthcare than all of these countries.
What is the kickback to the Provider who made the recommendation? That is my first question, just like providers who have relationships with pharmaceutical companies. A new Ethics question for the healthcare industry.
The real problem is that in a near future some of the tech company could sell the medical data of his users in the market and if the authority find out they will claim they was hacked. It will be more difficult to find work and the price of insurance will go up
I’m trying to figure out how digitizing health records, can be worse than having your health record on paper in an unlocked filing cabinet in your doctors office. Can anyone explain?
When medical records are on paper in a locked filing cabinet, there is that chance it can be broken into by a person and distributed to far fewer than digital. Much like pictures of embarrassing events when photographs was only on paper, a few/some people would see it - may lose the pictures, destroy or may crumble from age/wear when not preserved properly. Now the Internet is in full effect, an embarrassing picture will go viral instantly for billions to see for years and make Memes about it. Once that happens there is no way to stop it. Paper in a filing cabinet, work of some sort is involved to access it. Digital filing on the Internet easy for the many Hackers who are worldwide.
MemoGrafix Any reasonable health record system would make adequate use of encryption to prevent unauthorized access/viewing of the data. Also the point you just made is an example of why digitizing would be better, because digital health records can’t be lost or damaged due to wear and tear like your photograph example. Why bother with emails? They can be intercepted by the many hackers worldwide. Why not just send letters via the postal service?
*nicthemartian -* Hmmm...If you figured you had the answer why ask in the first place?? You sound far to trusting of any of these systems. Data that's encrypted does get decrypted, not all however, and all of it is subject to being decrypted by a skilled hacker at anytime. Also, digitized data and storage mediums can/do get corrupted and can get what's called *"Data decay, data rot or bit rot."* I still use *"snail mail"* for very private info/data. I don't care if its slower, oh well. In any event why would a person want to accept corporate retail like Amazon/Apple/etc. to be in ones personal medical history? I don't go to doctors anymore for the last 15+ years unless I have been physically damaged (ie. broken bones) of some kind. _So far, so good, knock on wood._ I know it sounds silly, and I was very limited with what I have told doctors back when I did frequent seeing them. *_I don't trust today's pharmaceutical-corrupted medical church._*
MemoGrafix Sorry if it came across argumentative. What I meant was I think we should put our focus on improving electronic health record systems as opposed to holding on to these legacy systems. Amazon having your health records is very scary I’ll admit, but the idea is it would be regulated and audited a differently than other forms of data would be, such as your shopping history for example. I completely get your point though.
@@MemoGrafix That isn't strictly true. A physical record has no audit trail. Pulling an EHR from any major system (TPP SystmOne, EMIS, Cerner, NHS SCR etc) is audited. On top of that, EHR information is kept behind multiple security layers like Imprivata on computers and chip-and-pin smartcards for certain data. A physical record can be copied/faxed/stolen very easily without solid data as to who took it.
There's no doubt that using data science in the medical field has benefits that far outweigh the negatives: - in emergency procedures, doctors have almost instant access to critical data that can save the patient's life; - in medical research, having access to huge amounts of data can help find patterns that small data sets miss; - in the case of new drugs, using artificial intelligence models can help identify effective drugs and make them available sooner than before to ill patients. The list goes on. That doesn't mean we should downplay the risks of AI and data science in medicine. There are plenty of things that can (and will go wrong) and there are plenty of players whose main goal is making money (instead of their goal being to make healthcare better (and make money as a result). It just means that it's worth the effort to use data science and AI tools extensively in medicine, and figure out how to reduce the risks, and how to correct the things that will go wrong.
@@dangergranger1 E-commerce companies get our data because we choose to shop with them (unless they buy it from mailing lists vendors). So a simple solution is to stop shopping online. I, for one, have a hard time doing that (and I'm a minimalist, for crying out loud. 😁). The online shopping is faster, cheaper, and gives me a better selection. The only fair expectation we can have is that those who collect our data are not allowed to sell it. Also, we should be able to ask for our data to be deleted if we stop dealing with a vendor/service provider. As far as leaks go, I am positive that vendors try hard to not let them happen. Not because they care about us, but because it hurts them a lot: damaged reputation, lawsuits, lost money. The problem is that cyber criminals are getting more and more sophisticated. They get smarter. We get wiser. The never ending cat and mouse game. 😕
Anyone know if it’s possible to get a copy of an MRI film from about 21 years ago ? I got an MRI but I can’t even remember which doctor it was. Or if he would even have it still . I only remember the city and that the doctor was male. It is probably long gone but having the film would actually be helpful for something I am trying to get done in the here and now.
Micah 2:1 Woe to those who devise iniquity and plot evil on their beds! At morning's light they accomplish it because the power is in their hands. ALL FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY!
This is why its stupid to use Apple Health App (really you give a company more info than other care providers can access?) Alexa (keeps records of what drugs and food you buy) Google and Amazon own cloud services that store all that info and pretty much allow them access into those services (to improve services and monitor and manage them). Okay, sure they have policies against employees going into them, but ever hear of anyone going to jail for violating any of that? No? Now you know why...
@tube3365 I agree with you. The benefits outweigh the negatives. Of course, that doesn't mean we should downplay the risks. It just means that combining data science and medicine is worth the effort so we need to figure out how to keep those risks to a minimum and how to correct the hings that will go wrong.
If they are in the business of electronic health records, they should not be able to use that information *for anything else* even if it is for internal marketing or vertically integrated products. 10 years from now the headline will be *Big Tech Wants Your Soul*
Prime soul
We are screwed😑
@@Taklsdjw093 part of me shares your sentiment, and part of me thinks we're better than this. We got luered into this no privacy garbage after 9/11. It has defined my adult life. I shouldn't be for sale. I work in IT btw. I enable this BS. *_Stand Up_*
@@daveb2280 Yeah, I don't know why anyone would willfully agree to this. Big Tech has proven time and time again that it doesn't respect privacy, cannot regulate itself and is unworthy of trust. And it goes way back. The earliest example I can think of was Eric Schmidt retroactively altering the Google EULA and then lying publicly about it; 2006 I believe, but could be wrong. I'm trained as a network engineer but I have been so disgusted by the industry and the dystopia I believe they are creating that I walked away from it a couple years ago. I haven't been on social media since '08. I rarely carry a cell phone. It's ubiquitous; data collection that is. We are the raw materials in an emerging surveillance capitalism.
@@daveb2280 its depressing af. I remember when the internet was full of hope and possibility; when people from all over and all walks of life actually had civil debates about things. Much of the internet is just gross to me now.
Health records? How about your doctors laptop or phone in the exam room with you. It's so very naive to think that that any device is secure from eavesdropping.
Healthcare in the US is the worst system in the world. How do you have so much GDP and still not provide Universal healthcare?
The real problem is that the USA SPEND MORE THAN ANY OTHER. COUNTRIES IN PUBLIC HEALTH CARES IN DOLLARS AND IN %OF
GDP.Medical expenses are hig in the us because the state doesn’t control prices
Because healthcare isn't a human right and we don't want to subsidize others.
Mostly due to poor white Americans being manipulated to vote against their own interests. They've been miseducated into thinking that making rich people more wealthy is the key to freedom. In exchange politicians promise and sometimes enforce policies that harm minorities, gun and abortion rights.
Greed and fear. Many Americans tend to be more emotional than rational, so they'll believe one thing even if all the data points to the opposite.
Because there are 38% of stupid uneducated who believe we cannot afford it, but they surely believe we need a 900B+ defense to feel "safe".
What happened to patient confidentiality? At least physicians are patients too. Checks and balances
*_Doctors are typing..._*
Thats why I'm hesitant to use any fitness app or buy and one of those fitness watches. I knew these tech companies would try to get their hands on people's health info!
I got an ad for Amazon Web Services right before this video.
The ad before this video was from MediService
Uhh. I’m trying to be more informed about issues that we face in this world (I’m 14). But I get super bored watching long videos. Can you guys do like a compressed version of your videos for younger viewers with shorter attention spans? Thanks😊
Give a raise to whoever said "let's switch 'Big Business' for 'Big Tech', they're too stupid to notice"
"No encryption is perfect; all it takes is time to get through the encryption."
It takes almost the age of the universe to revert good encryption. "Data expert"... sure.
Yeah but super computers can do it in a reasonable amount of time
Looked him up he is not involved in computer data. He studied data linking quality of service price and other factors not computers. Technically he is right .the computer neccessary to crack decent encryption (kind used for long term storage of important data) without the key would be impossible. Hacking itself is an issue but normally by somebody having the decrypted data (end user) or not properly storing the key.
@@rotnmet6257 No they can't.
fck you really that naive and think the motivated guys dont have enough brain power and low moral to find ways to break encryptions with new generation of quantum computers and some help with older leaked data? dont be so naive dude. The NSA is already saving massive amounts of encrypted data for later decryptions
What happens is people find a way to bypass that, and/or get the key. Given enough time, vulnerabilities might be found. Noone's spending time to bruteforce things.
*Arthur Morgan VoicE*
We just need more moneeh!
I see you everywhere I go what the heck
This is alarming 😱😱😱😱
Inaccuracies are bound to occur and I'd say much often when it comes to physical health records
Another reason why the United States should have universal healthcare.
@BlackDawg UNIVERSAL means everyone pays for it and everyone gets to use it. Access isn't enough when money is a barrier for service and treatment. I mean, public schools, roads, fire departments, police services, libraries, the military, and much more are provided by the government via taxes. Single-payer healthcare works in all industrialized countries like England, Canada, Australia, South Korea, and Japan. If the United States is (supposedly) the best country in the world, we could do a much better job with healthcare than all of these countries.
Yes and your health care will be determined by government regs. & your compliance with CDC.
One word: KACHING!!!
Can we ask our physicians not to install my medical records on any computer program!!!
Dream on. No one in authority protects our privacy.
What is the kickback to the Provider who made the recommendation? That is my first question, just like providers who have relationships with pharmaceutical companies. A new Ethics question for the healthcare industry.
I am herbalist and very healthy !
The real problem is that in a near future some of the tech company could sell the medical data of his users in the market and if the authority find out they will claim they was hacked.
It will be more difficult to find work and the price of insurance will go up
“Pregnant people”. Aaaight
Is that u in video?
Lol
People don't get pregnant?
People can get pregnant...??
Well there aren’t any other species doing online shopping
I’m trying to figure out how digitizing health records, can be worse than having your health record on paper in an unlocked filing cabinet in your doctors office. Can anyone explain?
When medical records are on paper in a locked filing cabinet, there is that chance it can be broken into by a person and distributed to far fewer than digital.
Much like pictures of embarrassing events when photographs was only on paper, a few/some people would see it - may lose the pictures, destroy or may crumble from age/wear when not preserved properly.
Now the Internet is in full effect, an embarrassing picture will go viral instantly for billions to see for years and make Memes about it. Once that happens there is no way to stop it.
Paper in a filing cabinet, work of some sort is involved to access it. Digital filing on the Internet easy for the many Hackers who are worldwide.
MemoGrafix Any reasonable health record system would make adequate use of encryption to prevent unauthorized access/viewing of the data.
Also the point you just made is an example of why digitizing would be better, because digital health records can’t be lost or damaged due to wear and tear like your photograph example.
Why bother with emails? They can be intercepted by the many hackers worldwide. Why not just send letters via the postal service?
*nicthemartian -* Hmmm...If you figured you had the answer why ask in the first place?? You sound far to trusting of any of these systems.
Data that's encrypted does get decrypted, not all however, and all of it is subject to being decrypted by a skilled hacker at anytime.
Also, digitized data and storage mediums can/do get corrupted and can get what's called *"Data decay, data rot or bit rot."*
I still use *"snail mail"* for very private info/data. I don't care if its slower, oh well.
In any event why would a person want to accept corporate retail like Amazon/Apple/etc. to be in ones personal medical history?
I don't go to doctors anymore for the last 15+ years unless I have been physically damaged (ie. broken bones) of some kind. _So far, so good, knock on wood._ I know it sounds silly, and I was very limited with what I have told doctors back when I did frequent seeing them.
*_I don't trust today's pharmaceutical-corrupted medical church._*
MemoGrafix Sorry if it came across argumentative.
What I meant was I think we should put our focus on improving electronic health record systems as opposed to holding on to these legacy systems.
Amazon having your health records is very scary I’ll admit, but the idea is it would be regulated and audited a differently than other forms of data would be, such as your shopping history for example.
I completely get your point though.
@@MemoGrafix That isn't strictly true. A physical record has no audit trail. Pulling an EHR from any major system (TPP SystmOne, EMIS, Cerner, NHS SCR etc) is audited.
On top of that, EHR information is kept behind multiple security layers like Imprivata on computers and chip-and-pin smartcards for certain data.
A physical record can be copied/faxed/stolen very easily without solid data as to who took it.
Thanks you, it helps a lot
I thought I wasn't signed in
Interesting coincidence that aws ad preceded this video.
It actually seems better this way, tbh why not make it a smart data base we can find problems better.
There's no doubt that using data science in the medical field has benefits that far outweigh the negatives:
- in emergency procedures, doctors have almost instant access to critical data that can save the patient's life;
- in medical research, having access to huge amounts of data can help find patterns that small data sets miss;
- in the case of new drugs, using artificial intelligence models can help identify effective drugs and make them available sooner than before to ill patients.
The list goes on.
That doesn't mean we should downplay the risks of AI and data science in medicine. There are plenty of things that can (and will go wrong) and there are plenty of players whose main goal is making money (instead of their goal being to make healthcare better (and make money as a result).
It just means that it's worth the effort to use data science and AI tools extensively in medicine, and figure out how to reduce the risks, and how to correct the things that will go wrong.
I agree, but the data shouldn't be exposed to e-commerce giants and should be secured incredibly tightly against leaks.
@@dangergranger1 E-commerce companies get our data because we choose to shop with them (unless they buy it from mailing lists vendors).
So a simple solution is to stop shopping online.
I, for one, have a hard time doing that (and I'm a minimalist, for crying out loud. 😁). The online shopping is faster, cheaper, and gives me a better selection.
The only fair expectation we can have is that those who collect our data are not allowed to sell it. Also, we should be able to ask for our data to be deleted if we stop dealing with a vendor/service provider.
As far as leaks go, I am positive that vendors try hard to not let them happen. Not because they care about us, but because it hurts them a lot: damaged reputation, lawsuits, lost money.
The problem is that cyber criminals are getting more and more sophisticated. They get smarter. We get wiser. The never ending cat and mouse game. 😕
Anyone know if it’s possible to get a copy of an MRI film from about 21 years ago ? I got an MRI but I can’t even remember which doctor it was. Or if he would even have it still . I only remember the city and that the doctor was male. It is probably long gone but having the film would actually be helpful for something I am trying to get done in the here and now.
The hospital should have a record of it
HIPAA Law?
low views ?
must be "algorithm"
Why? Capitalist GREED! All they care about is greed (fear), not your health.
I knew it was going to be some nefarious reason before I even clicked
I don't take synthetic antibiotics
Micah 2:1
Woe to those who devise iniquity and plot evil on their beds! At morning's light they accomplish it because the power is in their hands.
ALL FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY!
What super-crappy, thin interview audio (:-(
I believe apple when they say it’s encrypted not Amazon
This is why its stupid to use Apple Health App (really you give a company more info than other care providers can access?) Alexa (keeps records of what drugs and food you buy) Google and Amazon own cloud services that store all that info and pretty much allow them access into those services (to improve services and monitor and manage them). Okay, sure they have policies against employees going into them, but ever hear of anyone going to jail for violating any of that? No? Now you know why...
Dont share your medical history believe me.... Dont give your health in the hands of doctor unless its serious, precaution is good. Try proper yoga...
Jennifer Miller; could be a model, but is a medical professor instead. Now that's hot!
Just thought I'd leave this out there.
a model lol she is cute. but you need actual designed mensurations to be one
@@PHlophe ...and you're an idiot.
@WSJ why this video has a bit lower fps at times?
This is not action movie
GREAT
Who else thought this was a vox video?
This story was a joke, you only mentioned apple so you could use it in the thumb nail for a grab at views. Pathetic.
This is clickbait do your own research
Pre Mark of the beast
I have started an open source project in order to try to fix this problem. If interested follow the project at pttp.org.
Apple appleheltevare
Interesting, but this young woman voice is beyond annoying - if you are going to speak publicly, work your voice please!
The benefits of this way out weighs the risks.
@tube3365 I agree with you. The benefits outweigh the negatives.
Of course, that doesn't mean we should downplay the risks. It just means that combining data science and medicine is worth the effort so we need to figure out how to keep those risks to a minimum and how to correct the hings that will go wrong.
@Tyler TV dude that GATTACA world gives me nightmares , imagine all the data then integrated into LinkedIn .
@@BiancaAguglia the benefits outweigh the risks until that one bad actor.
You’re fired
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