I dont know if anyone will read this, but many people have different opinions on the bausffs on being an inter, or having an alternate playstyle. Regardless of what you think please remember that he is a human being, some of the comments on reddit threads about this guy are absolutely hellish, please be responsible with your anonymity and remember its just another gamer.
Although that this is true , he is literally "ruining" so many people's games with this playstyle regardless of if it is working or not . It is simply unhealthy for the game . And not only that , but people copy his playstyle as well , which furthermore makes the problem even bigger . So the comments might be harsh , but the frustration of these players that have encountered him is simply way too much to handle .
@@overpoweredjelly3513 Insanely bad take, idc how many "games" are ruined, this is still a human being were talking about. Get your head out of your ass, go outside and touch some grass, you and the people agreeing with you are clearly out of touch with reality
@@overpoweredjelly3513 It’s weird to call it inting though. I’ve always viewed inting as losing intentionally, if it allows him to climb to the highest of ranks it’s a bit odd to say he’s inting.
I think he may have meant playstyle-wise. But yeah he is based on an armadillo. Even though his actual race isn't technically known and he's probably a baccai (shuriman ascended not worthy of being a god-warrior).
@@TonyEjerJiang Not sure. Could be. But it's not the current lore. They basically scrapped everything, which kinda sucked but I guess overall the modern lore is good. It took some time though.
If you watch Baus' replays when he is offstream he doesn't die nearly as much and plays significantly better. It seems like on stream there is less consideration for staying alive, not sure whether it's for entertainment, more carefree playstyle or both.
Thebausffs cycle : 1. Spam some troll pick or int to get banned. 2. Get banned. 3. Have the entire community talk about it and get extra viewers + money. 4. Get unbanned as usual and continue like nothing happened. 5. Repeat.
@@YehNahYehAyy so just because the build isn't the exact same as everyone else's, you're positive he's not trying to win??? Insane. If this is where this game goes, I will throw out my decade of gaming and quit.
@@vedantgupta2145 Saying that Rammus doesn't do anything with gold is odd. Did you see that Thornmail allowed him to solo his hyperfed laner? Every bit of armor makes him do more damage and shred their attack damage _carry_
@@HaloReachRocks10 Yes and it works if the Aphelios was the carry. Too bad the kz and jax 3 shots the other 3 players while rammus continue to farm damage with thornmail for the damage bet post game
Baus just doesn’t respect other players. The way he pathed behind Jax’s tower with thornmail or jumped solo onto an aphelios with cleanse + lulu was only justifiable if he knew the enemy team was blind.
Just bc you are outnumbered top though doesn't mean you completely back off, in reality there's a sweet spot in safeness where you bait pressure and your team does something somewhere else for more value which is seen in games like Starcraft or Dota which have significantly more intensive and complicated macro than League. Like the whole idea of "good deaths," being a foreign concept to League players is funny af and I don't even watch him
my guy, safe isn’t in Baus’s vocabulary. There’s no “sweet spot in safeness” when he constantly pushes the wave and attempts to proxy. There’s also no reason to bait pressure early game when there’s no objectives up and even if he does temporarily make it easier for his team to lane, it kind of ruins the point when he dies to every gank and give gold leads to 2 potent mid game champions.
He did by far the most damage in his team while building full tank and having characters which have nothing but dps like Twitch and Graves. He got camped constantly and his jungler was really the worst one you could find in that elo. The ban was undeserved and uncalled for.
@@yigitkabaday3179 it’s rammus…with thornmail…who is perma fighting lol. The only reason this wasn’t a 20 minute stomp was because Jax is a master stucker who doesn’t know how to properly utilize leads.
@@Jaybird9x Master players are top 0.2% of the players. That Jax would likely 1v5 any low elo lobby. Calling him stucker is not even an insult at that level 😂
It's those little nuggets of truth that I love when watching Drew commentate like voting no out of spite 😆and things like that. Reminds us that drew *is*also playing this cursed game with us. High above with the players like Dopa & Faker which he's defeated btw. But something about those comments just makes watching so relatable thanks drew!
@@DajuSar The one calling out thebauffs for troll probably peaked at low gold at best. So no he don't know why rammus works top or why invading is fine.
@@DajuSar I think you misunderstood the comment, jester isn't saying that baus invaded and shouldn't have, they're saying that baus stood outside of the bush so wasn't giving vision and did basically nothing to avoid *being* invaded.
@@selber1014but from my point of view... the game does not end in the beginning, it ends in the end. why would you throw out comebacks? especially as baus is ahead of his laner. unless your point is that you think the team as a whole was just bad and going to lose despite how well baus was doing
Side note this play from Akali at 19:50 is unreal, best usage of cancelling E2 with protobelt I have ever seen. Absolutely broke Bausen's ankles. And the follow up was so damn clean (even stalled out the E2 cast so once she baited Rammus the next E1 cooldown would be up soon which ended up being relevant). Head and shoulders the best player in that lobby that match. Getting 9CSpm in the meantime as bloody Akali in soloq further helps
This man literally has proven himself by being challenger multiple seasons, including hitting challenger at Korea (which the even the creator of this video have so far not been able to reach btw) where even the biggest names in league like Zeus, Canna, Irelking, Pzzang etc. were baffled at what he was doing at how good he was at it. So much so when pros started thinking about mimicing his playstyle and some of them actually started trying it, Sion, his main champion, got instantly nerfed to underground (again, not because of WR and other stuff, just because of a single man). He still kept on hitting challenger, including this season despite all the odds so Rito decides to ban him. Great job you dogshit company; if you don't like his playstyle how about making some changes to your spaghetti system first? He is only optimizing the ingredients you yourself have given Baus u know
And they give you NO feedback. He's not even toxic(no insults I mean). That's such a shame, so lame. They are literally gonna do everything so that people stop crying, disregarding their own rules. No principles. Disgusting. How on earth is a veteran challenger top 0.01% player the troll???
It's not personally about Baus though, it's about his playstyle. While it is indeed a proven playstyle by him that can get you to challenger, many, many people copy it, but do not have the skill and understanding of how this playstyle works which ends in literally int every game. This made the community dislike Baus simply because he is the inventor of this strategy, hence Riot did the smart thing - proving everyone that if they play like this without the intention of winning, they'll get banned - and what's more efficient than doing it to the inventor himself.
Sion only got one real nerf and that was the less damage on Turrets with passive but in the meantime Season 13 happened and Heartsteel. Every other alternative playstyle got gutted pretty much instantly (looking at Janna top) so Baus had it easy. He is still a very good player and better than all of us but my point is Riot also helped him and to be fair he deserve to be perma banned because of his AP Irelia alone.
Are you guys incapable of nuance? When he plays off stream or plays seriously to climb, his inting strategy is fine and he climbs, but when he ints on champs like ap irellia, rammus, illaoi on stream for fun/content, thats where the problem is.
i find it weird that having an account ban doesn't lead to a player ban. if you are gonna ban someone's account they themselves should be banned right? that's like banning someone from an establishment (restaurant, museum, etc) for inappropriate behavior but letting them in again just because they changed their clothes
Pretty simple, new accounts mean new (more) money for riot. player bans are insanely rare (incarnati0n which got lifted, t1 which got lifted, idek who else)
@@MrKoornex ? You seem to misunderstand what is meant by a “player ban”. If random Joe from bumfuck nowhere gets banned on his plat4 account, riot isn’t gonna look into him as a person and ban anything from him for life. Player ban in this context means a (relatively known) player getting literally restricted from ever playing the game again on any account whatsoever
You don't get it. T1 got permanently banned off of multiple accounts well over 15. Account bans just mean they have a chance to be better next time. It's not like hacking. It's bad behaviour wich can be improved. Thinking this way is toxic asf. People who commit crimes aren't just killed because they did wrong. They serve a sentence and get another chance. Being toxic in a fictional game shouldn't be as restrictive. You've got it all wrong.
All the dmg "done" by Rammus is actually dmg that enemies are doing to themselves, so in this particular case hes top dps because he spent most of this match "absorbing dmg" while feeding of course.
calling it "feeding" is debatable, because baus is "trading" kills for towers. eg. you wouldnt ban jax because baus took more towers, why would you ban baus cuz jax got more kills? **assuming they didnt afk, which neither of them did would you be surprised that if you look at the opgg for this exact game that baus had more gold than jax for most of the game, more damage than any other 2 players on his team combined, more damage dealt than anyone in the game, more damage soaked, and more gold than anyone on his team? its like everyone assumes 100% winrates are possible. fighthers/assassins get kills, split pushers take towers, tanks soak damage, some junglers take objectives, everyone and every champ has their own way of contributing to a win... its not all the same
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl It seems you failed to notice that Jax and Akali were not even taking this match seriously. They went in and died to Rammus reflect giving away major bounties more than once.
@@thedarkblitz ok.. but why is 0-12 bad... because you give up gold and towers right? but... if you check the opgg baus has more towers and more gold than jax for most of the game... so then i ask you again why is being 0-12 bad?
@@thedarkblitz so your analysis is: baus isnt taking the game seriously and inting so he should be banned but akali and jax are also not taking the game seriously and inting... but theyre doing good and whenever baus kills them and gets huge shutdowns he's still doing bad? ... you see the double standard here?
Twitch was spitting at 27:36 tho lmao and graves showed the embodiment of a league player with his response lmaoooo. “This game doesn’t matter real life does” “stfu”😂😂😂
@@adrianjimenez3150 Hes been having bad days since sion has been nerfed from braindead to actually needing a brain. So hes been having bad days for a year now ^^
I love Baus and I obviously think he tries to win his games in his own way, but just looking at his recent 35% and all of his ap Irelia games, I kind of understand the ban. Still feel bad, but it's completely understandable looking at all of his troll builds on Sion as of late.
AP irelia??? So you're literally advocating for him to be banned for trying a unique build (which actually has scaling/logic). That's insane. He's at his level for a reason. The MMR system exists for a reason.
Exactly! I think his playstyle is actually good when you perfect it, but those situations are that fuck me up. Especially my teammates who now want to try it too but don't really understand the tactic because of it..
I don't say this should be considered a "good deaths" but he was already 0-4 so he gave like 172 gold or whatever it is exactly, jax lost some minion gold so essentially he gave the jax ~100 Gold. However if he managed to get through there and proxy it he could get his Thornmail faster helping him get back in the game. He took the flip of giving 100 gold to jax and getting back into the game.
If this gameplay was anyone but Baus, everyone would call it a complete int and game ruining for everyone of his teammates, but since it's a special players he should get pass? Even if he is saying that he is trying, he is making the SIGNIFICANTLY harder for his team. Plenty of his deaths are also completely pointless and could have been avoided if he just didn't autopilot and call it "bausen's law". The fact that he has the audacity is to call his team boosted in this game is fucking insane to me.
Akali never killed him before and she was 6/0 how is the rammus top at fault for that? He could be yummi top or a tier 0 champ on top that wouldn't have changed anything there graves and twitch did no dmg. What else can he do?
@@DajuSar Kha was ahead cause of Him. Graves had no Red cause of him. Twitch had no roam potential cause of him. Bot lost to Kha gank ahead, cause of him. He litteraly lost jungle lvl 1, lost mid to snowball and no targets. He LITTERALY soloed the game (for the wrong team). *also stole 2k golds from carries
I do like his playstyle because it is interesting to watch. However i think he just took it to the extreme for no reason. Maybe he doesnt even notice how bad some of his games are because his only focus is to push, hope for a kill or a plate and die. He is so used to dying he might not see it as an issue anymore. If he would actually pay attention to enemy jungler, not suicide every occassion he has and actually assess how much of a chance he has to kill someone , his games would drastically improve. Everyone knows his playstyle and they do expect deaths. So if he is 0/10 at the end but most of the deaths were worth it no one would have a problem i think. There is a problem however if out of his 25 deaths 15 are avoidable and unnecessary. Hope he carries on and maybe adjusts his playstyle a bit.
But him dying genuinely *isn't* an issue. (Obviously, except unfortunate mistakes like his bad start this game.) Look at his guide, do the math on the gold. Him dying just to distract the enemy so his wave crashes can *literally* be a more effective strategy than not doing that, he's not just doing it for fun and it's getting out of hand.
I think he has proven many times that he's a not a griefer. Recenlty hit top 10 again, and even on lower elo accounts he still has more elo than 99% of his flamers (while doing great content)
Because he doesnt int offstream, he plays tank sion and has a normal winrate. Same thing all these past years but the fanboys just refuse to accept it because they like being "right" when they say "im not feeding, i went 0-20 because baus goes 0-20 and wins games its your fault guys not mine"
Of course he's a griefer, he still tries to win though. Dude plays hundreds and hundreds of matches with barely a positive winrate and forces his team to hold their own 4v5 while he feeds his ass off every game. He deserved to be banned a LONG time ago
Every time someone innovates in this game, Riot nerfs it. Lane swaps, cheaty recalls, triplestack gank bot, support item top... the list goes on, and in this case thebausffs dying-on-purpose-is-not-inting strat gets patched out.
Why the hell should he have to change? He has CONSISTENTLY proven that he's top 1% of the 1% . There is more to LoL than K/D/A. He's regularly playing alongside real inters who give up and grief because of weak mental and he remains one of the calmest, coolest players in League of Legends. It really shouldn't matter if some players don't like his playstyle. Riot are absolute buffoons for not addressing any of his bans, or intervening in any way
There shouldnt be any distinctions just because hes a high rank streamer and also having many deaths should not be encouraged. If you see a random guy having 15 deaths every game you wouldnt think twice about having them reported and banned
@@arthurw1604 The point is that his playstyle is actually a functional play style FOR HIM because he's actually good enough to pull it off often enough to reach extremely high rank.
@@arthurw1604 it's not feeding if you've watched the videos. Obviously there are times where he could and should die less, but dying like he does often times forces the enemy to lose a massive amount of gold
@@lilianmarinov8773 there's nothing more cringe then watching baus fans have no other comebacks but "muh gold rank". Arn't you embrassed that you're literally simping for a streamer?
Idk seeing that invade happen gave me so much anxiety, and watching him blind check bushes constantly… he has to be soft inting- this cannot be the same guy
Bausffs playstyle can be consider as smart, but at the same time every game putting the enemy ahead early game will have significantly lower chance of winning, cant expect every teammate to hold out or carry to he finish his item and win late..
It doesn’t make sense to ban someone who is non toxic high elo for playing this strat. Riot needs to change the game if they don’t want people like him playing.
You're telling me when he literally says "ah what am I doing?" Or "ah why am I inting?" Or maybe WATCHING HIM DIE FOR 0 REASON SO MANY TIMES? the strat works? Ye when he is not streaming for content because he plays more safe dies so much less and play tank (the best version of Sion overall) but you can see that he "ints" for content wtf it's not that it doesn't work it's that hes practically teaching how to int (or do the strat) to other players have we watched the same guide on yt? Edit: 7:16 there is no shot HE DOESNT KNOW HE DOESNT KILL THE WAVE AND DIES FOR 0 YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!?!?!? Same with the 2nd death we literally saw the invade Clueless for sure k6 doesn't go top lane right?
if you buy the trinket earlier than waiting to leave base then the cooldown starts sooner (unless there was a patch I missed that refunds you the difference?)
There used to be a report that was "unskilled player" which has since been removed because being bad/losing shouldn't be a reportable offense. Bauss is queueing with the intention to win, if his strategy to do so is bad he shouldn't be banned he should just not be as high elo
he's not queuing with intention to win on stream. His ap irelia is just completely grief and when he's off stream and playing on his challenger account he wins a lot with a lot less deaths usually and doesnt play most of the builds that he does on stream. he knows what he's doing is int and its just trolling his team at that point.
Its different being bad than straight trollling. 0/5 before 7 minutes? Im permabanning that motherfuker. Its not like he got dived 5 times by Top/Mid/Jg and some help from the support and he is trying not to die but just cant stay Alive. He is intentionally putting himself in the line of fire to die. Its called TROLLING/INTING and he deserves a perma for it. Disgusting PLAYER not playstyle. The playstyle is good, if you dont Int like him.
The high elo argument is so stupid in these comments, lets just not ban people that are diamond and above at all, i mean seems like it works for them, being that elo…
What I noticed with baus, is that despite being so many deaths behind, he is still matching his laners cs and higher level than his teammates. Just something to consider
He’s higher level than his teammates because he’s inflating his laners level then getting catch up experience by killing them. In essence, he’s accelerating the game.
These comments have to be a joke right? He dies for CS and plates, and then his team have to deal with a fed top/jg all game. Sure he might be pretty strong still because he has 10-15 deaths and he is sacrificing that for keeping "relevant" , but of course he has damage and gold when all he is doing is running into enemy team all game. The point is this playstyle literally forces the game to revolve around him, since he is more or less funneling gold to himself while enemies farm off him. Its just a toxic playstyle, that for sure can work, but its not fun to play with at all.
@@Onyx474I think Riot should put more effort into making the play style less viable than banning Baus. I understand why he got banned but they still haven’t fixed the actual problem
@@Onyx474 "fed" I don't think you realise howmuch the deaths are worth, you do realise at one point hes worth like 50g? You think its more worth to play safe and basically fall even more behind when you're worth nothing? You should actually check the gold stats compared to other lanes. Kills barely matter its what you do after you get the kill that matters.
Pantsaredragon gives a good perspective of a high elo player on this game, in terms of what will you gain from plays in pressure and gold. (At least i think he's still high elo? Idk never really watched him.) He agrees with basically everything baus says. Some bad deaths but most deaths were good, even if it didn't work out as planned. He outperformed jax for sure. And twitch and graves were the real problem. But ofc all the baus haters will only look at KDA lmao
he’s going on about damage from his teammates but if they are facing a fed jungler and top, they will be grey screened a ton as well. Unable to do damage because of his own inting. Tilts own team while giving enemy team ego boost so they play with confidence I wanted to give him a chance but that’s just toxic
This is something constantly overlooked in his post game reviews. Look they did no damage, maybe because they’re u dear leveled and getting farmed by a fed Top/Jung/Mid that you fed…. It was deserved imo. The majority of the community just see’s it a inting.
ban a person who is consistantly high elo he is not even no where near as insulting as an average lol player, why should a play style that results into high elo ever be banned , pointless
Honestly I don't see this as perma worthy but I do think karma bit him on the ass. He can't report the Jax for dying once in an overexension (after having already escaped twice on similar extensions) and claim its the easiest report of his life then question why he himself got reported. Edit: Blaming his team, too, calling them boosted, reportable and uncarriable and asking how he could possibly win the game. Yes he admits he's having a bad game but to make out that everyone else is the problem and everyone else is reportable -- Everyone. EXCEPT. For him. Of course. Just really irks me. EDIT 2 : That said, it is worth noting he's trying to FF. In context, them refusing to FF only frames him and sets him up for failure. He knows he's behind. He knows he's tilted. He knows he's entirely reliant on his team to carry. He knows they can't because they're all AA based against a fed Jax. And he knows he can't create space due to Aphelios Cleanse and Akali killing him. Yet he's stuck in this game, where by still trying, he's only going to "int" more, so it kind of punishes him for even trying at all because the rest of his team is keeping him here even though cognitively he's made the decision to go next and NOT int.
@@xEmpress95 my meaning was that midbeast is massively sarcastic with his sense of humour, so I would have expected viewers of his would be able to pick up on it better. I wasn't trying to say you were talking about anything he said, mb if unclear. But Baus reporting the Jax for inting was definitely tongue-in-cheek
@@958matt Can't be that tongue in cheek since he did actually submit the report and it could have tipped off Riot's system in some way if he got mass reported for inting and he tried to report his winning top laner. And it doesn't explain his genuine ire toward his fellow team (who ironically he didn't report). That said the EDIT 2 does note that he was trying to quit and I'd probably be upset, too. Also that end screen with him doing 34k is nuts. Which in Baus's defense, that kind of game state, and his team's lack of damage / ability to play around his playstyle and see the pressure he's soaking up even as a 2/13 rammus is something I don't have the experience / macro to comment. He does absolutely have a better view of the game state and what needs to happen to win. And that's the big thing right? That's where the entire discussion comes from with Baus. The dude's just figured out a completely different way to win at League of Legends but it's diametrically opposed to how other people figured it out, so when that breaks down, as it has more and more since the Sion nerfs, people lose mental and don't know how to navigate an end game like this. I think the real question shouldn't be whether he deserves to be perma'd, which to clarify, I know Midbeast wasn't suggesting / supporting that, I'm just adding my own thoughts on the broader topic at hand. But rather, I think the fact that the Baus's playstyle works for him, and consistently gets him to high elo while Riot says "no, we don't want you playing this way" actually highlights a major flaw in Riot Games themselves. The very system they've built rewards the Baus's playstyle, and they're mad at him for figuring that out and have aggressively attempted to attack/shut him down for months now rather than actually fix the core issues with the game that allows the Baus to place such a high emphasis on split pushing, tower damage, one/two item power spikes and threat management.
he plays the exact same playstyle, and can get challenger with it, it's a viable strategy, ONLY baus or maybe just very good players, don't try this anywhere below masters for your and your teammates sanities, but his strat is completely viable and he shouldnt be banned, pretty sure its just EAC banning him whilst Riot arent paying attention to who their EAC is banning
@@lucer5823 Easy solution. Don't play League. You are making yourself suffer everytime you boot up that game. He is another person who has fun playing the game. If you see people like him "wasting your time" by having bad games, then you should think twice what you spend your time on.
played an aram 2 days ago as rammus and did 53k dmg on my thornmail. dead serious, like the bauss dead. also to your point at 13:30 i have the aram god title and i get focused every game. like over half snowballs are thrown at me consitently. its really helped me get better at dodging though
Cos Riot implemented this stupid system which is punishing players who farm people instead of minions by putting bounty on their head. Making the creeps and objectives worth more than killing people(cos killing people makes you more valuable than the person who is being killed, so the person who has no value can keep getting killed to get objectives while person who is killed the inter is worth a lot of gold so for him to die for objectives is not an option, but as mentioned earlier Riot made this more of an objective game rather than pvp). Baus playstyle clearly shows how flawed the Game system is in which you can keep feeding and win the game as long as you get the objectives. Riot doesn't like that. Silly
@@Elyga. Agreed but difficult to balance because if feeders are always worth a lot of gold. 1 player can doom any game... Also if you are getting fed like Jax, you certainly have ways to win with the lead you are getting. And you obviously shouldn't be dying 1vs1 to the 0/7 rammus when you're 7/0.
@@goldenphoenix5945 Just remove the bounty system. Like it was at early seasons. Don't make the person be worth 1000gold.. Just 300g. Cos now 7/0 is not really fed since he is barely getting any gold by killing 0/7 player. Meanwhile 0/7 player can get a kill on a 7/0 player and get roughly the same amount of gold as 7 kills... In my opinion this is the main reason that lol has lost it's fun, since you are being punished by preferring pvp instead of objectives. Dare I say that majority of gamers play for pvp not for pve. But riot made it "pve" or more like "pvs"(player vs system), you getting rewarded by beating the system, not the actual player. (I remember when I started playing league I would always go for the kill even if it meant dying under turret, that was always worth since killing is the most fun part of the online games, but Riot punishes this kind of playstyle nowadays, and is being upset when a player appeared (thebausffs) who is intentionally dying since killing is being punished. I hope you get my point :)
@@Elyga. I would argue that even if you don't get gold from kills after a certain number of deaths it still denies that person exp. and time to farm. It also allows you time to push objectives and/or roam/group for team advantages. The bounty system has 2 parts to it. Kill bounties and objective bounties. Kill bounties can be easily prevented if you play well with the lead you have. If they use the Bausffs strategy where 1 always split pushes: - you can try and either group and engage a 4vs5 fight which should be easily won and translate into baron/drakes and/or pushing towers as 5. - Or you can have 1 match and try to win 4vs4. - Or you can try to kill the split pusher when the enemy team can't get other objectives because they often mindlessly push even when the whole team is in base, and they have 0 vision. This game is about capitalizing on resource allocation/decision making as well as mechanics. In pro play, when ever you see a team commit 2 or 3 to a top dive, you always see the other team try and either counter gank OR cross-map knowing they have a player advantage. Also, during laning phase, roaming even when not ahead can help get your team fed and translate into other objectives, so if you've gotten 7 kills and good farm/exp. from laning phase, you should be able to provide an advantage to your team. I also think there is a reason that when you watch pro play, this strategy isn't used. Against good and smart players, it doesn't work well. I think the concept of kill bounties and even objective bounties makes sense because it allows teams who are behind to get back in the game if they manage to make good plays even after a rough start to the game. I don't think games should just be about laning phase (and ff at 15) but also roaming, teamfighting, decision making, objective taking... and so on. Makes it more fun imo to have more than one strategy to get advantages although you certainly can win with a preferred strategy. With all that being said, I agree with you that they certainly could tweak/nerf the bounty system to not make it strongly in favor of the losing team. I don't know what analytics they use to balance this but poor play from the winning team should provide a gold and momentum swing to a certain degree. Let me know what agree/disagree with. :)
TheBausffs is a challenger player. His play style is just different than others. If y’all are really flaming him, you gotta realize there’s a reason he’s challenger with his play style, and you’re hardstuck low elo.
@@Mvgicalnext time I spectacte my challenger friend I'll tell him to walk into the enemy at 30% hp under his tower because it's what the bauss would do
@@Mvgical fanboys like you probably see the baus int and be like: wow that’s a play I would make and I’m hardstuck bronze I always knew I was making challenger plays. Regardless if the man is trolling or trying you can’t deny that some of his deaths are hard grieve
Thing is his strat can work, but sometimes it dooms a game. It’s all champ based. If you’re against a kha and akali, 2 champs with high dmg and engage, graves and twitch need to hard win early against them. So baus is a walking money bag early game for hard scaling champs and graves twitch cannot play the game into those champs if they get free kills early. His style is interesting but it is undeniably bad in some games and he’s gotta be able to tell from champ select when to use it or not.
Okay then he'll never win every game. Does that mean he's trying to lose? I don't think so. He makes people play perfectly against him to win, it's just a high % winning. It's riot's fault, not those who use their system in a way they don't want it used.
@@harstar12345 I see your point but here's an example with the shoe on the other foot. Let's say enemy team plays Tryndamere top and your jungler perma invades in a way you can’t follow up as top laner and gifts 2 free kills to a trynda and then you can’t play top lane. Your jungle has a Strat in which he invades every game and gets a lead and it works for him some games, but he has no top or mid prio to do it so he shouldn't that game. He should get reported for doing it that game.
but akali never killed him early game so that doesn't work like that. Graves and twitch underperformed waaay too much, He oculd have gone tank sion if you want that still wouldn't have make a difference in the mid and botlane
@@DajuSar Khazix killed him a lot early game and akali after a few minutes got a few kills on him. It's pretty unfortunate situation in that game also with some out of his control. But again I think of a jungle perma invading 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 times when he can't and then blaming his top laner for it when enemy top gets giga fed off him. You wouldn't be happy
@Vedant Gupta "gets carried" did we watch the same video? he carried his team. all his team needed to do was play. but they'd rather be piss babies amd blame him for the loss. graphs said everything. you're just mad you can't "int" amd make challenger on multiple accts. otherwise you wouldn't be here being a little bitch
About that reddit post, y'all need to understand that the baus is not losing more games because he dies more, but he dies more because he's losing, in the sense that if he's getting stomped, he will still use his aggressive playstyle and since enemy is fed they will kill him more often. That doesnt mean that if he goes 2/12 and then he starts avoiding deaths he will win.
So essentially what you're saying is that he has the legit bronze mindset to keep the exact same game plan every game no matter what situation and will simply start trolling if it's not gonna go as he hopes it does?
@@Kek393 If you have seen him play illaoi or sion, you must have seen him make crazy low risk high reward plays. When he's 0/10 he doesnt give any gold to enemies but he's always relatively strong because he always gets resources. So if he goes bot at 25 min as 0/10 sion and he manages to destroy tier 2 and bring people on him plus trade a kill or two while being worth 0 gold and his team also gets nashor, thats a very good play and it will work 99% of the time if you know what you're doing. Hes not been randomly challenger for i dont know how many seasons, his playstyle works perfect for him, maybe sometimes recently he has soft inted but hes a good player. The problem with baus is that he has a lot of viewers and they will try to do the same thing while having 2% of the knowledge he has
@@kronosogrekos Cool, except I didn't say he was a bad player. I'm just saying that's the way you described him as. Also from what I understand he climbs off stream and legitimately trolls on stream for content so the ban is well deserved no matter how much his fanboys disagree. Illaoi's literal thing is that she's a sustain monster. You have to actively try to die with her
yeah league is infested with afk passive 0 impact players. now i dont go around calling for bans on them, yet they do when someones playstyle challenges their uptight beliefs.
He’s purposely losing it’s the equivalent of playing soccer and your defender scoring 6 goals in there own goal even if he wins they would fire him the fans would kill him
He's causing more harm than good. Imagine him play 10 times a day and the 4 other players just see feed. They don't know his style, nor should they. So all day he causing stress, anger, shock, surprise, hate, lost promotions day in day out. Keep in mind I don't care how he plays it's just needs to be on his own 5 man team that Knows his play style.
DESERVED! Averaging 13 deaths a game in the last 15 games on that accounts. REFUSING to back EVER! 1v4 engages while flaming and reporting teammates (while inting). ALWAYS talks about how strong he is and weak his team is. YES you are strong. HOWEVER, you have inted enormous amounts of gold to the enemy top and jungle (sometimes mid too when they roam) that they use against your teammates. Meanwhile you afk split push/proxy int with NO map cover (even though 90% of high elo players have 2 screens and your jungler's ask you too). If you can get rank 16 in 3 weeks (NOT dying 13-20 times a game in this run btw). Then dying 13-22 times consistently in master games is trolling/int'ing and he admits it on his stream all the time after the fact. "Yeah I need to stop trolling (after engaging 3v1 or 4v1)" comments ect... BTW the Twitch (was very nice while Bauss was int'ing) who Bauss was flaming was FINE until the fed Kha'zix took part in killing him 4 of his 6 deaths. Flaming Graves after it is partly his fault red got stolen (part graves). Then 100% his fault Graves can't match him because he is far behind in gold and exp and gets 3shot. Lastly, I'll say everyone I have seen agree's with Bauss at the end about "most damage and Graves". Graves cannot do anything vs a fed Jax; and when Kha'zix is also fed enough to dam near 3 shot you (auto, q, auto, e, out of a bush. Then graves runs for his life). He cannot contest objectives because bot and mid also lost (mid due to Kha'zix). You have to think about the game state; not just the numbers...
@@tiberazur3 He use to be a chill, humble, and nice guy. Now the views have gone to his head and he is a massive passive aggressive, arrogant, all about me masshole. 100% ego. Nothing is ever his fault. He will admit to a death being his fault. Game state and loses are ALWAYS because of his team.
Love your videos man great commentary. I mean technically he did the best on the team even though his strategy is tilting. His team didn't do much all game, primarily cause they didn't know what to do like you mentioned.
Here's the thing, he is allowed to play how and what he wants, 100%. Yes, his inting Sion wins games, but at the same time, his teammates (and sometimes even enemies) are also 100% allowed to get mad at him and not want to play with him. Even if he is even or up gold-wise against his lane opponent, no one wants to play against a 6/0 jungler and a 5/0 top at 5 minutes. At the end of the day, this is a team based game, and if his playstyle actively makes the game unfun for 4 other people, he has to also be aware of the consequences. This isn't a "His playstyle works!!/He has positive WR!!" point anymore, this is a "People dont' want him on their team" point. This is not even mentioning all the copycats that just ruin games with inting sion/rammus/ap irelia because they think they're as good macro wise as Bauss, but that's not really his fault
Because he doesnt play this disgusting inting playstyle offstream. Check his games offstream and compare to stream games. He basically runs it down whenever he streams and none of his teammates find it fun to play with him
@@666Kaca completely true, which is completely fucking reportable. I like watching him for the good games but man if I had anybody go 0-16 I’m filing a petition to take their computer away from them
@@charmelyTv the worst part is when you have his fanboys in team going 0-20 and refusing to group all game saying "im not inting, baus does it all the time and hes challenger, are you saying hes an inter?" makes me fume irl
I don't have any real negative feelings towards Bausffs, as I do not know him. However, I think these situations highlight an ongoing issue the internet has with streamers/content creators, in when a viewer really begins to follow that content creator heavily, any critique towards the content creator, will almost be taken personally by the viewer. Almost as if the viewers on friend of family member is being insulted. I've seen most of MidBeast's videos on Baus, and every time, you'll see a handful of people having dozens of comments under multiple threads, it's just not healthy to be that upset over someone you just watch for entertainment. This extends beyond Bausffs, into almost any large streamer/content creators community. This over protection of a controversial stream/content creator also usually gives birth to the opposite side of the spectrum, people who start to really really hate that person. I think people need to step back and realize Bausffs may not deserve a perma-ban, but there are legit complaints about his playstyle. And that's okay. RIOT is partially to blame in this though, in the sense that they are so inconsistent with bans and what constitutes them. When T1 he had 2 games where someone had almost 30 deaths in a less than 30 minute game, yet they didn't get banned while he was in EU. That alone makes it hard to defend RIOT for perma-banning Bausffs, even though he playstyle involves trolling a lot, RIOT seems to roll a dice when they decide what trolling or soft inting is.
Everyone in the match knows who he is and many would report him just for fun, even if he didn't int. Jankos reported him on stream because he lost against him.
@Lars-Åke Chesburg 1. The reason people, at high elo, report him is due to his playstyle. Most high elo players have a playtime that is unique to that individual player. Where they play with the same people a lot , yes if Baus throws a game for them they're going to report him. There were several games when he git banned doing Rammus where he: did not have the most gold, had the least amount of tower damage, and had 0 KP. So yes, people are going to report a player like thag everytime they see him 2. Suggesting Jankos just "reported him because he knew him is wild ". Jankos has had a name in LoL before anyone knew who Baus was. So this claim is just wild, and it just feeds off my first point. You're highlighting 1 interaction between Baus and Jankos, while neglecting to mention how many games Baus has lost Jankos with Bauss playstyle. Your comment just highlights exactly what I was talking about, this larger overarching problem with streamer communities, is they can't handle their entertainer being critiqued. You point out single instances without looking at the overall picture, which is Bauss playstyle heavily tows the line of taking advantage of the bounty system || intentionally feeding.
@@carrymycross6523 no, you're the delusional one. Go check jankos last clip reporting him, it's petty behavior. And baus playstyle is probably older than you because it has been used since wc3. And DotA had no bounty system and you lost money on death, so your logic about system abusing doesn't hold up.
"These players are uncarriable" While playing a tank, while being 2/13 He's good but he's arrogant and abuses busted stat checkers and no brain champions
you'd have to look at dmg taken+mitigated, tower damage, they showed he did about as much damage as his entire team combined. also the lvl 1 invade was really on graves and not rammus because the graves is ranged while rammus is not, so graves should have been in the bush or allowed baus to drag the buff into the bush as far as abusing busted champions thats on riot and not on baus as well (do you think its bannable to play the items with highest winrates next because they are obviously OP?) so really your only complaint is that you think he's arrogant which i guess is fine, but a lot of people are
@@ReiDavizin yes i agree, the state of the game is that his team was not doing very well. the enemy had a good invade and twitch is always going to lose to akali and he never really tried to roam. baus made pretty decent plays and used the strengths of his champion. and he even solo killed jax 2x and got 2x 1000 gold bounties, took towers, and had ok team fights vs a fed enemy team, and was leading jax in gold the entire 2nd half of the game until his team got gold from taking all the base towers and won the game
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl I'm sure it's really easy for his team not playing braindead tanks with demolish to auto towers while the enemies he fed early kill them at 5x the rate he does anything
@@zenonzazira it is a tradeoff, and as far as i'm aware there is no player that has a 100% winrate and no strategy that always wins. if you look at the gold over time, jax is never far ahead of rammus and even by 15 mins rammus pulls ahead of jax in gold until the very end of the game. it's ok for you not to understand things, but a smart man will always try to take knowledge away from new experiences
do people forget that this man easily has achieved top 15 and nearly top 10 on the ladder multiple times?? How can you just see his KD and assume it’s bad outright, the problem is the anticheat sees his KD, tied with the loss streak, which, if we’re being honest, is only 5, which is pretty normal for someone who plays that many games, especially a streamer
the problem is what he is doing on stream, yeah off stream he may be top 15 but on stream he ints like a bronze half the time (and lets not even mention the troll picks he does)
imagine inviting this guy to LEC broadcasts for his playstyle and personality and then banning him and now permabanning him. ACtual insanity from riotgames.
People defend his playstyle, but when they have to face a monstrosity of a 5/0 top laner by 5 minutes they flame and report their inter teammate. I like watching baus but he was a clown in this game and the ban was deserved.
Nah but in this game it was actually just inting, no huge IQ strategy I mean come on he´s just repeatedly dying over and over again not having any cs lead, no pressure, just dying. As a toplaner in plat elo I recently have been meeting people that try to copy his strategy and it´s just free games for me as a bruiser player cause from my pov they dont really do anything except for dying
Im just gonna say this coz im a firm believer that truth always need spotlight and surfacing. Disclaimer: i dont watch baus, never did, i dont care about defending him or him being guilty/innocent for his suspension. This specific performance of his is by no means near perfect but its far from bad and light years away from bannable. His jungler could have abused early top skirmishing for insane snowball instead of mental blocking himself into perma pathing bot. Baus had insane pressure on the map (early + mid game) and twitch used none of it. Twitch was kinda counter picked by enemy team but as long as he traded flash with jax on a proper fight he could 1v9 this. And this always needs reminding for some reason but KDA means close to nothing many of times. These players that i mentioned have very little understanding of the game (if any) and they could have complemented baus's playstyle and helped him take a very easy win as he does assume the role of an engage/peeler frontline. Baus remains a very competent player and his understanding of map pressure is one of the best in the ladder. I dont care about debating or convincing anyone with this and i usually never bother to type. If you understand you understand. As a last point i would like to also remind that soloq nowadays doesnt incorporate as much the "have fun" factor that it used to have (which is very important since we are always referring to a video game) or more creative playstyle such as this vod for a number of factors. That doesnt mean playing sth off meta or trying sth weird (and no i dont mean first picking champions) is an auto-loss or justifies teammates tilting and mental blocking. There is a huge mis-information and false sense of knowledge that plagues a lot of people right now concerning league which is sad to see. Good luck on the rift everyone and please remember to act in a human and kind manner :). It costs nothing and helps everyone including you.
Whether or not he wins, his strat holds the lobby hostage, either he wins on his own merit or his team gets shit on by the giga fed top and jungle. Its not healthy to allow it even if he does win with it, its like if Midlane roamed bot to take their waves but they had a positive winrate with the strat in Masters, youre making your teams experience bad.
Every jungler who farms till 6 holds the lobby hostage. Its a 5 v 4 game while 1 selfish player does their own thing. Yeah I agree those players should all get perma banned from ranked. But they don't so neither should this guy.,
And where is the line? If one jungler plays an early game ganking jungler and the other team has a scaling farming jungler, does the scaling jungler need to be banned? Because believe me, the teammates of the scaling farming jungler will not have fun getting ganked over and over without getting help. What about midlaners? One that roams and one that doesn't. Ban the one that doesn't roam and pushes to win? Your argument is stupid man. Playing to win is the goal and players should be judged on that. Not on 'enjoyment' of other players because that's such an arbitrary rabbithole...
Two things on this take; in solo Q you should only trust yourself to carry. You can't trust the other 4 guys on your team. Second, if it's a strategy that is working against the normal playstyle and has huge success, maybe it should be the normal playstyle.
or maybe other master+ players that end up in same lobby as him, should understand how he plays, realize it works for him very VERY well and play around that. he aint challenger for nothin. playing off meta should not be a punishable offense. and if you think so then you're just boring. Seethe more. stop telling others how to play the game.
Shout out to Positive attitude Twitch honestly. I think it definitely is a workable playstyle from what I've seen, tactical ints for pushing an advantage or objective for sure, but it's not 1v9 as soon as the enemy isn't all AD autoattackers and if you don't adapt to the gamestate pretty quickly it becomes just inting. I don't blame the rest of the team too much for playing pretty scared with 2 assasins, and a fed bruiser, but there were times they just needed to try and play with the aggression. The Rakan definitely missed the memo trying to roam and help and just giving the Jax and Kha another target they can switch too. I think the mental + comments at the end were what kind of pushed it over the edge to being closer to more of an int game imo, not perma worthy on its own but definitely a mark. I didn't see what elo this was at but especially high tier games really need to just have manual review by default.
I'd say deserved, if he not thinking to switch style, every match enemy top laner basically will be fed by Baus, pretty demotivating, plus quite alot of his deaths were unnecessary ints, I like the guy and get the strategy but these days he just runs it down too much, even when he doesn't have to he still does it. But that's just my opinion.
Shoutout to the cringe, passive-aggressive little twat that spams "positivity" even when it's non-applicable, further pissing off everyone else off because he's putting himself in a mental space that you can't reach? Yeah dude, we love that PoSiTiViTy.
To be fair, his inting strategy was fine until he started playing champs that dont work with the strat. Surely we can all agree that playing rammus like a singed or sion isnt the most optimal of playstyles right?
I actually think Riot is to blame. I agree with banning Baus but only because I have always been extremely against ANY passive or dynamic where Sion, Kog'Maw, Karthus and maybe a champ I forgot, benefit from needing and embracing death. This is fundamentally toxic to the game of league of legends and makes very problematic ethics and tactical weighting to an average human's brain let alone highly or low intelligent brain. The issue is that if intentionally feeding can GENUINELY be optimal, not is optimal but can be perceived that way, due to the kit champions have, then why the fuck would somebody not consistently be inting on that champion and building in a way that works well with this forcing of 1 for 1 deaths or 1 death for a tower etc? I do not main those 3 champions and fundamentally refuse to ever play them as I think their passives make them toxic and unhealthy to the way league of legends is meant to be played. All champions except those 3 (again, it's possible I forgot 1) have an axiom of playing safe and minimising deaths being optimal.
@@RassionellMaddman kogmaw's passive is actually useless, it does next to nothing compared to the other two, and karthus' one is there for him ot get his ult off after he dies, like the idea that he can still ult to finish a fight if he dies, which considering a lot of his damgage needs him to be close to others makes some sense. Sion's passive is probably the worst by far but unless building lethality or tower diving bot lv1 its mostly uselesss, and lethality is worse than tank objectively and unless ist a super bot meta the sion passive isnt that bad. the toxic playstyle is much worse when it gets buffed but after the nerf it is optimal to play safe on all 3 champions in every situation unless you are losing a huge wave, in which case any champ would probably suicide for the minions anyway the toxic style is more int now than ever and its just dumb at that point. its not playing optimally so it is just worse off and just an int playstyle usually.
Baus can be logically good but also the same player WHO CANT SEE WHATS WRONG ABOUT GIVING ENEMY EVELYN 25 MEJAI STACKS IN LESS THAN 10MINS. his bounty system play style is not for everyone. Its unfair for him to expect all his teammates to simply always adapt to him as if its normal. An easy game becomes unreasonably harder coz of his play style. Meta changes and you cant simply one trick a play style forever.
I dont know if anyone will read this, but many people have different opinions on the bausffs on being an inter, or having an alternate playstyle. Regardless of what you think please remember that he is a human being, some of the comments on reddit threads about this guy are absolutely hellish, please be responsible with your anonymity and remember its just another gamer.
Imagine noticing Reddit bro Reddit IS FOR SUBHUMANS no shot you're saying please be more soft Redditors ejsjdjdjajajd
Although that this is true , he is literally "ruining" so many people's games with this playstyle regardless of if it is working or not . It is simply unhealthy for the game .
And not only that , but people copy his playstyle as well , which furthermore makes the problem even bigger .
So the comments might be harsh , but the frustration of these players that have encountered him is simply way too much to handle .
Too soft
@@overpoweredjelly3513 Insanely bad take, idc how many "games" are ruined, this is still a human being were talking about. Get your head out of your ass, go outside and touch some grass, you and the people agreeing with you are clearly out of touch with reality
@@overpoweredjelly3513 It’s weird to call it inting though. I’ve always viewed inting as losing intentionally, if it allows him to climb to the highest of ranks it’s a bit odd to say he’s inting.
Rammus is an armadillo, not porcupine. His nickname is Armordillo afterall.
armordildo
It's "RAM US, the armored dildo"
I think he may have meant playstyle-wise. But yeah he is based on an armadillo. Even though his actual race isn't technically known and he's probably a baccai (shuriman ascended not worthy of being a god-warrior).
@@warmmilk9480 Pretty sure in his oldest lore that he was an armadillo that had gone through some sort of magical experiment.
@@TonyEjerJiang Not sure. Could be. But it's not the current lore. They basically scrapped everything, which kinda sucked but I guess overall the modern lore is good. It took some time though.
If you watch Baus' replays when he is offstream he doesn't die nearly as much and plays significantly better. It seems like on stream there is less consideration for staying alive, not sure whether it's for entertainment, more carefree playstyle or both.
When you stream your concentration is divided between chat and the game. Just how it is. Nearly 99.9% of them play better off-stream.
Well when he streams ppl camp him more
Streamer treatment
Also he gets stream sniped every game
When he streams he always play lethality sion but when he seriously tries to climb off-stream he plays tank sion and actively counter picks.
@@wnsjimbo2863 , on top of that, he doesn't cover his minimap 95%+ of the times
Thebausffs cycle :
1. Spam some troll pick or int to get banned.
2. Get banned.
3. Have the entire community talk about it and get extra viewers + money.
4. Get unbanned as usual and continue like nothing happened.
5. Repeat.
Yeah but its not on purpose...
@@raylord4497 yeah going ap irelia is for sure trying to win. 💀
@@YehNahYehAyy he could go ap irellia in your elo go 20-0 and then you'd think it's op
@@CrimsonKnightmare1 hea, it's ok you done sucked thebauss to sleep, you may want to wipe your face off though. There's baby thebauss all over you
@@YehNahYehAyy so just because the build isn't the exact same as everyone else's, you're positive he's not trying to win??? Insane. If this is where this game goes, I will throw out my decade of gaming and quit.
Banned for content. 20 death a game during streams, turbo lose, when offstreams he regains every lp he loses i mean ofc he's suggestible to bans
This, I’m kind of tired of streamers expecting special treatment. Tyler is the exception, he was inting and was asking for ban and he’s never got it 😄
He should be banned from his behavior on stream during EUW.
@@Kamishi845cry
@@rsmith8113 hes literally been perma banned before??
@@ohhhbirdy5975 a young frog there probably lmao
Would love to see gold per minute on Jax vs Rammus throughout the game, it's probably not great but would be fun to see the difference.
gold per min doesnt matter shit when when ur chap literally does nothing with gold
@@vedantgupta2145 Saying that Rammus doesn't do anything with gold is odd. Did you see that Thornmail allowed him to solo his hyperfed laner? Every bit of armor makes him do more damage and shred their attack damage _carry_
@@HaloReachRocks10 Yes and it works if the Aphelios was the carry. Too bad the kz and jax 3 shots the other 3 players while rammus continue to farm damage with thornmail for the damage bet post game
@@HaloReachRocks10 ok dude lol, i would take a jax with 5k gold over a rammus with 6k gold anyday
@@vedantgupta2145 I guess enemy have zoe or annie ?
Ally Team: Kha top, care
Meanwhile bauffs pushing regardless
Midbeast: I dont think he does care
Baus just doesn’t respect other players. The way he pathed behind Jax’s tower with thornmail or jumped solo onto an aphelios with cleanse + lulu was only justifiable if he knew the enemy team was blind.
@@MissingHomework olfc hes griefing on purpose for content
Thebaus didn’t have anything to lose he needed it or he will be out of the game
Just bc you are outnumbered top though doesn't mean you completely back off, in reality there's a sweet spot in safeness where you bait pressure and your team does something somewhere else for more value which is seen in games like Starcraft or Dota which have significantly more intensive and complicated macro than League. Like the whole idea of "good deaths," being a foreign concept to League players is funny af and I don't even watch him
my guy, safe isn’t in Baus’s vocabulary. There’s no “sweet spot in safeness” when he constantly pushes the wave and attempts to proxy. There’s also no reason to bait pressure early game when there’s no objectives up and even if he does temporarily make it easier for his team to lane, it kind of ruins the point when he dies to every gank and give gold leads to 2 potent mid game champions.
"I have the mental of a monk"
*30 seconds later*
"We HAVE to FF, we HAVE to FF"
Yep, broxa would be the definition of a mental of a monk, baus on the other hand the mental of a monkey.
Baus reporting for int is hilarious
He did by far the most damage in his team while building full tank and having characters which have nothing but dps like Twitch and Graves. He got camped constantly and his jungler was really the worst one you could find in that elo.
The ban was undeserved and uncalled for.
@@yigitkabaday3179 it’s rammus…with thornmail…who is perma fighting lol. The only reason this wasn’t a 20 minute stomp was because Jax is a master stucker who doesn’t know how to properly utilize leads.
@@Jaybird9x Graves twitch jhin couldn't out damage rammus? Maybe it was lost at champ select?
@@Jaybird9x Master players are top 0.2% of the players. That Jax would likely 1v5 any low elo lobby. Calling him stucker is not even an insult at that level 😂
It's those little nuggets of truth that I love when watching Drew commentate like voting no out of spite 😆and things like that. Reminds us that drew *is*also playing this cursed game with us. High above with the players like Dopa & Faker which he's defeated btw. But something about those comments just makes watching so relatable thanks drew!
glazing much
WHo in the world is Drew
@@octavioavila6548 it's midbeast you dum dum.
13:06 The answer is Singed. He can proxy just as well if not better than Sion but he has the mobility to get away without dying.
Oh yeah ! I would love to see some gameplay of Bauss on singed !
That lvl 1 invade. 100% avoidable. I like Simon's personality but the things he sometimes does ingame is really trolling.
He cannot go to the lane because rammus is terrible in lane, thats why he invades. Do you even know why rammus top works and why he proxys?
@@DajuSar he outside of the bush so had no vision until theyre already at red
@@DajuSar The one calling out thebauffs for troll probably peaked at low gold at best.
So no he don't know why rammus works top or why invading is fine.
@@wooof8575 So, explain to me why he stays 31s in base AFK. What's the great plan?
Or why he stays OUT of the bush?
@@DajuSar I think you misunderstood the comment, jester isn't saying that baus invaded and shouldn't have, they're saying that baus stood outside of the bush so wasn't giving vision and did basically nothing to avoid *being* invaded.
MidBeast made me hella laugh this vid, my favorite part was the "coming out of base for the 14th time" 27:25 lmao 😂
Also the no FF out of stubborness bit, so true
it shoulda been 15 tho, but I digress
@@selber1014 why? baus was leading jax in gold at 15 mins, check the opgg
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl beginning of the game, which is why i digress
@@selber1014but from my point of view... the game does not end in the beginning, it ends in the end. why would you throw out comebacks? especially as baus is ahead of his laner. unless your point is that you think the team as a whole was just bad and going to lose despite how well baus was doing
Side note this play from Akali at 19:50 is unreal, best usage of cancelling E2 with protobelt I have ever seen. Absolutely broke Bausen's ankles. And the follow up was so damn clean (even stalled out the E2 cast so once she baited Rammus the next E1 cooldown would be up soon which ended up being relevant). Head and shoulders the best player in that lobby that match. Getting 9CSpm in the meantime as bloody Akali in soloq further helps
baus was aiming for aphelios dumb nerd
Yeah that was pretty sick
This man literally has proven himself by being challenger multiple seasons, including hitting challenger at Korea (which the even the creator of this video have so far not been able to reach btw) where even the biggest names in league like Zeus, Canna, Irelking, Pzzang etc. were baffled at what he was doing at how good he was at it. So much so when pros started thinking about mimicing his playstyle and some of them actually started trying it, Sion, his main champion, got instantly nerfed to underground (again, not because of WR and other stuff, just because of a single man). He still kept on hitting challenger, including this season despite all the odds so Rito decides to ban him. Great job you dogshit company; if you don't like his playstyle how about making some changes to your spaghetti system first? He is only optimizing the ingredients you yourself have given Baus u know
And they give you NO feedback. He's not even toxic(no insults I mean). That's such a shame, so lame. They are literally gonna do everything so that people stop crying, disregarding their own rules. No principles. Disgusting.
How on earth is a veteran challenger top 0.01% player the troll???
It's not personally about Baus though, it's about his playstyle. While it is indeed a proven playstyle by him that can get you to challenger, many, many people copy it, but do not have the skill and understanding of how this playstyle works which ends in literally int every game. This made the community dislike Baus simply because he is the inventor of this strategy, hence Riot did the smart thing - proving everyone that if they play like this without the intention of winning, they'll get banned - and what's more efficient than doing it to the inventor himself.
Sion only got one real nerf and that was the less damage on Turrets with passive but in the meantime Season 13 happened and Heartsteel.
Every other alternative playstyle got gutted pretty much instantly (looking at Janna top) so Baus had it easy. He is still a very good player and better than all of us but
my point is Riot also helped him and to be fair he deserve to be perma banned because of his AP Irelia alone.
100% nailed it.
Are you guys incapable of nuance? When he plays off stream or plays seriously to climb, his inting strategy is fine and he climbs, but when he ints on champs like ap irellia, rammus, illaoi on stream for fun/content, thats where the problem is.
The thing I don’t like about these is midbeast says baus is chilling when he in fact is shilling
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i find it weird that having an account ban doesn't lead to a player ban. if you are gonna ban someone's account they themselves should be banned right? that's like banning someone from an establishment (restaurant, museum, etc) for inappropriate behavior but letting them in again just because they changed their clothes
Pretty simple, new accounts mean new (more) money for riot. player bans are insanely rare (incarnati0n which got lifted, t1 which got lifted, idek who else)
@@s1xe_ You only take streamers/pro players as an example for bans ? 99,99% of players are random people. Bans happen way more often than you think
@@MrKoornex ?
You seem to misunderstand what is meant by a “player ban”. If random Joe from bumfuck nowhere gets banned on his plat4 account, riot isn’t gonna look into him as a person and ban anything from him for life. Player ban in this context means a (relatively known) player getting literally restricted from ever playing the game again on any account whatsoever
@@s1xe_Sardoche, another from eu
You don't get it. T1 got permanently banned off of multiple accounts well over 15. Account bans just mean they have a chance to be better next time. It's not like hacking. It's bad behaviour wich can be improved. Thinking this way is toxic asf. People who commit crimes aren't just killed because they did wrong. They serve a sentence and get another chance. Being toxic in a fictional game shouldn't be as restrictive. You've got it all wrong.
Watched this from 3 different prospectives and everyone kinda seems sad but at the same time it seems like everyone is like "told you so"
Watching these baus videos reminds me of playing aram, just perma grey screen :)
All the dmg "done" by Rammus is actually dmg that enemies are doing to themselves, so in this particular case hes top dps because he spent most of this match "absorbing dmg" while feeding of course.
calling it "feeding" is debatable, because baus is "trading" kills for towers.
eg. you wouldnt ban jax because baus took more towers, why would you ban baus cuz jax got more kills? **assuming they didnt afk, which neither of them did
would you be surprised that if you look at the opgg for this exact game that baus had more gold than jax for most of the game, more damage than any other 2 players on his team combined, more damage dealt than anyone in the game, more damage soaked, and more gold than anyone on his team? its like everyone assumes 100% winrates are possible. fighthers/assassins get kills, split pushers take towers, tanks soak damage, some junglers take objectives, everyone and every champ has their own way of contributing to a win... its not all the same
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl It seems you failed to notice that Jax and Akali were not even taking this match seriously. They went in and died to Rammus reflect giving away major bounties more than once.
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl Something debatable is something that somehow has some place for doubts. Going 0-12 or 2-17 is just plain and simple feeding.
@@thedarkblitz ok.. but why is 0-12 bad... because you give up gold and towers right?
but... if you check the opgg baus has more towers and more gold than jax for most of the game... so then i ask you again why is being 0-12 bad?
@@thedarkblitz so your analysis is:
baus isnt taking the game seriously and inting so he should be banned
but akali and jax are also not taking the game seriously and inting... but theyre doing good and whenever baus kills them and gets huge shutdowns he's still doing bad?
... you see the double standard here?
Twitch was spitting at 27:36 tho lmao and graves showed the embodiment of a league player with his response lmaoooo. “This game doesn’t matter real life does” “stfu”😂😂😂
win/lose 1-6
"it's a playstyle" - thebausff
bro ngl, in most streams the winrate is good, he lowkey just had a bad day like most league players.
@@adrianjimenez3150 Hes been having bad days since sion has been nerfed from braindead to actually needing a brain.
So hes been having bad days for a year now ^^
I love Baus and I obviously think he tries to win his games in his own way, but just looking at his recent 35% and all of his ap Irelia games, I kind of understand the ban. Still feel bad, but it's completely understandable looking at all of his troll builds on Sion as of late.
AP irelia??? So you're literally advocating for him to be banned for trying a unique build (which actually has scaling/logic). That's insane. He's at his level for a reason. The MMR system exists for a reason.
@@tobysource Bro AP Irelia is his worst win rate regularly played champ. It's troll, stop sticking up for this disgusting shit
@@tobysource Pretty sure he reached challenger by playing his best champions (sion, grag, quinn) and not his 20% ap irelia.
@@tobysource holy shit bro youre almost overdosing on copium
@@dogethat4888 that's why MMR is a fluid system. Are you seriously trying to assert that people shouldn't be able to change their champs/builds?!?!?
"TheBausFFS in his comfort zone 10 deaths in" 💀
The death at 7:20 is troll. That's the type of death I have a problem with.
same.
8:32 as well
Exactly! I think his playstyle is actually good when you perfect it, but those situations are that fuck me up.
Especially my teammates who now want to try it too but don't really understand the tactic because of it..
Just that death really? From the first death he was trolling..
I don't say this should be considered a "good deaths" but he was already 0-4 so he gave like 172 gold or whatever it is exactly, jax lost some minion gold so essentially he gave the jax ~100 Gold. However if he managed to get through there and proxy it he could get his Thornmail faster helping him get back in the game.
He took the flip of giving 100 gold to jax and getting back into the game.
Ohh man, you never fail to make me crack!! "desperately alone", hahahaha.
The problem is, how much gold does he cost his team when a 4/0 jg is ganking the other lanes at 7 min killing them all with ease.
Twitch with the positivity, you love to see it.
midbeast/fakerslayer/dopaslayer i havent watched the video but ik its gonna be beautiful
If this gameplay was anyone but Baus, everyone would call it a complete int and game ruining for everyone of his teammates, but since it's a special players he should get pass? Even if he is saying that he is trying, he is making the SIGNIFICANTLY harder for his team. Plenty of his deaths are also completely pointless and could have been avoided if he just didn't autopilot and call it "bausen's law". The fact that he has the audacity is to call his team boosted in this game is fucking insane to me.
Akali never killed him before and she was 6/0 how is the rammus top at fault for that? He could be yummi top or a tier 0 champ on top that wouldn't have changed anything there graves and twitch did no dmg. What else can he do?
@@DajuSar Kha was ahead cause of Him. Graves had no Red cause of him. Twitch had no roam potential cause of him. Bot lost to Kha gank ahead, cause of him. He litteraly lost jungle lvl 1, lost mid to snowball and no targets. He LITTERALY soloed the game (for the wrong team). *also stole 2k golds from carries
I do like his playstyle because it is interesting to watch. However i think he just took it to the extreme for no reason. Maybe he doesnt even notice how bad some of his games are because his only focus is to push, hope for a kill or a plate and die. He is so used to dying he might not see it as an issue anymore. If he would actually pay attention to enemy jungler, not suicide every occassion he has and actually assess how much of a chance he has to kill someone , his games would drastically improve. Everyone knows his playstyle and they do expect deaths. So if he is 0/10 at the end but most of the deaths were worth it no one would have a problem i think. There is a problem however if out of his 25 deaths 15 are avoidable and unnecessary. Hope he carries on and maybe adjusts his playstyle a bit.
Its horrible experience for both his teammates and enemies.
the problem is if both team have a horrible game, its even worse than the average toxic game.
its just pointless waste of time.
if he took it too far he wouldnt be challenger.
But him dying genuinely *isn't* an issue. (Obviously, except unfortunate mistakes like his bad start this game.) Look at his guide, do the math on the gold. Him dying just to distract the enemy so his wave crashes can *literally* be a more effective strategy than not doing that, he's not just doing it for fun and it's getting out of hand.
@@itachi60001 that was on his smurf as said
I think he has proven many times that he's a not a griefer. Recenlty hit top 10 again, and even on lower elo accounts he still has more elo than 99% of his flamers (while doing great content)
Some people are delusional.
He Ints it for the views. That is his marketing stik.
Because he doesnt int offstream, he plays tank sion and has a normal winrate. Same thing all these past years but the fanboys just refuse to accept it because they like being "right" when they say "im not feeding, i went 0-20 because baus goes 0-20 and wins games its your fault guys not mine"
Of course he's a griefer, he still tries to win though. Dude plays hundreds and hundreds of matches with barely a positive winrate and forces his team to hold their own 4v5 while he feeds his ass off every game.
He deserved to be banned a LONG time ago
@@Digger-Nick Those guys think because some people watch them screaming and telling bullshit they deserve Privilege
Imagine him flaming his team after he hard inted for 20 mins 😂
low elo spoted
@@rustcohle3088yeah you
Ladies and gentlemans, we got him.
Every time someone innovates in this game, Riot nerfs it. Lane swaps, cheaty recalls, triplestack gank bot, support item top... the list goes on, and in this case thebausffs dying-on-purpose-is-not-inting strat gets patched out.
You look exactly like the way you type
@@Zolti14 Shut up homie
I'm innovating my games by trying to lose lane and die every game. I'm glad I have your support!
I dont play toplane so what do u do as jax if ur 8/0 and the inting enemy rammus gets thornmail and suddenly u cant fight him?
Why the hell should he have to change? He has CONSISTENTLY proven that he's top 1% of the 1% . There is more to LoL than K/D/A. He's regularly playing alongside real inters who give up and grief because of weak mental and he remains one of the calmest, coolest players in League of Legends. It really shouldn't matter if some players don't like his playstyle.
Riot are absolute buffoons for not addressing any of his bans, or intervening in any way
There shouldnt be any distinctions just because hes a high rank streamer and also having many deaths should not be encouraged. If you see a random guy having 15 deaths every game you wouldnt think twice about having them reported and banned
@@arthurw1604 The point is that his playstyle is actually a functional play style FOR HIM because he's actually good enough to pull it off often enough to reach extremely high rank.
@@arthurw1604 the goal is to destroy the ennemy nexus... it's sad that people still don't understand this after 10 years of existence
@@thomasfernandez1989 i dont think 15 deaths contribute to winning feeding the enemy toplaners and letting ur team play 4v5 lol
@@arthurw1604 it's not feeding if you've watched the videos. Obviously there are times where he could and should die less, but dying like he does often times forces the enemy to lose a massive amount of gold
The bauss complaining about inters and saying he can't carry while he's running it the fuck down every game is basically my teammates every game
Except your teammates are gold peak and this person has reached number one rank in Korea , so yeah keep being delusional
@@lilianmarinov8773 there's nothing more cringe then watching baus fans have no other comebacks but "muh gold rank". Arn't you embrassed that you're literally simping for a streamer?
Idk seeing that invade happen gave me so much anxiety, and watching him blind check bushes constantly… he has to be soft inting- this cannot be the same guy
Why am I seeing an Ad of MrWhoseTheBoss stroking a cat tail while talking about Opera...
if the world is against the baus then i am against the world
Bausffs playstyle can be consider as smart, but at the same time every game putting the enemy ahead early game will have significantly lower chance of winning, cant expect every teammate to hold out or carry to he finish his item and win late..
I think it is a bit dumb. I mean, he's literally Perma high elo. It's not like he's actually inting. But I get it I guess?
Dude dropped 200 LP in a week with nearly 20 deaths per game. He's not climbing with this strat and this is only Masters tier.
bro he was literally rank 12, 2 months ago
It doesn’t make sense to ban someone who is non toxic high elo for playing this strat. Riot needs to change the game if they don’t want people like him playing.
@@JS-yh2eh yeah that acc still remains the same. the one that got perma is the hardstuck master one
You're telling me when he literally says "ah what am I doing?" Or "ah why am I inting?" Or maybe WATCHING HIM DIE FOR 0 REASON SO MANY TIMES? the strat works? Ye when he is not streaming for content because he plays more safe dies so much less and play tank (the best version of Sion overall) but you can see that he "ints" for content wtf it's not that it doesn't work it's that hes practically teaching how to int (or do the strat) to other players have we watched the same guide on yt?
Edit: 7:16 there is no shot HE DOESNT KNOW HE DOESNT KILL THE WAVE AND DIES FOR 0 YOU KNOW IT I KNOW IT EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!?!?!? Same with the 2nd death we literally saw the invade Clueless for sure k6 doesn't go top lane right?
if you buy the trinket earlier than waiting to leave base then the cooldown starts sooner (unless there was a patch I missed that refunds you the difference?)
There used to be a report that was "unskilled player" which has since been removed because being bad/losing shouldn't be a reportable offense. Bauss is queueing with the intention to win, if his strategy to do so is bad he shouldn't be banned he should just not be as high elo
he's not queuing with intention to win on stream. His ap irelia is just completely grief and when he's off stream and playing on his challenger account he wins a lot with a lot less deaths usually and doesnt play most of the builds that he does on stream. he knows what he's doing is int and its just trolling his team at that point.
@@gigagaming960 he didn't get banned for playing ap irelia but rammus
Its different being bad than straight trollling.
0/5 before 7 minutes? Im permabanning that motherfuker.
Its not like he got dived 5 times by Top/Mid/Jg and some help from the support and he is trying not to die but just cant stay Alive. He is intentionally putting himself in the line of fire to die. Its called TROLLING/INTING and he deserves a perma for it. Disgusting PLAYER not playstyle.
The playstyle is good, if you dont Int like him.
@@archangelwarrior9816 AP irelia account got banned before this
Bring back unskilled
The high elo argument is so stupid in these comments, lets just not ban people that are diamond and above at all, i mean seems like it works for them, being that elo…
What I noticed with baus, is that despite being so many deaths behind, he is still matching his laners cs and higher level than his teammates. Just something to consider
He’s higher level than his teammates because he’s inflating his laners level then getting catch up experience by killing them. In essence, he’s accelerating the game.
I mean what more can you consider XD he accelerates himself but feeds everyone
These comments have to be a joke right? He dies for CS and plates, and then his team have to deal with a fed top/jg all game. Sure he might be pretty strong still because he has 10-15 deaths and he is sacrificing that for keeping "relevant" , but of course he has damage and gold when all he is doing is running into enemy team all game. The point is this playstyle literally forces the game to revolve around him, since he is more or less funneling gold to himself while enemies farm off him. Its just a toxic playstyle, that for sure can work, but its not fun to play with at all.
@@Onyx474I think Riot should put more effort into making the play style less viable than banning Baus. I understand why he got banned but they still haven’t fixed the actual problem
@@Onyx474 "fed" I don't think you realise howmuch the deaths are worth, you do realise at one point hes worth like 50g? You think its more worth to play safe and basically fall even more behind when you're worth nothing? You should actually check the gold stats compared to other lanes. Kills barely matter its what you do after you get the kill that matters.
Pantsaredragon gives a good perspective of a high elo player on this game, in terms of what will you gain from plays in pressure and gold. (At least i think he's still high elo? Idk never really watched him.)
He agrees with basically everything baus says. Some bad deaths but most deaths were good, even if it didn't work out as planned. He outperformed jax for sure. And twitch and graves were the real problem.
But ofc all the baus haters will only look at KDA lmao
he’s going on about damage from his teammates but if they are facing a fed jungler and top, they will be grey screened a ton as well. Unable to do damage because of his own inting. Tilts own team while giving enemy team ego boost so they play with confidence
I wanted to give him a chance but that’s just toxic
Midbeast you know hedgehog the blue little thing which rans fast
EZ clap, now I won't see Sion inters in my pisslow games.
nah for real I love them every second game sion with cull start dying 20 times so i cna take over the game solo xdd
You guys are all crazy hating so hard on this dude. He’s literally better than 99% of players at climbing In solo queue
he definitely deserves the ban for this, not to mention he blamed his team when he put the enemy team ahead in the first place.
This is something constantly overlooked in his post game reviews. Look they did no damage, maybe because they’re u dear leveled and getting farmed by a fed Top/Jung/Mid that you fed…. It was deserved imo. The majority of the community just see’s it a inting.
He did most damage though?
@@MikeCrazyCalvert bro, cómo tiene más daño que kha six? 🗿
@@MikeCrazyCalvert Graves twitch jhin couldn't out damage rammus?
ban a person who is consistantly high elo he is not even no where near as insulting as an average lol player, why should a play style that results into high elo ever be banned , pointless
Honestly I don't see this as perma worthy but I do think karma bit him on the ass. He can't report the Jax for dying once in an overexension (after having already escaped twice on similar extensions) and claim its the easiest report of his life then question why he himself got reported. Edit: Blaming his team, too, calling them boosted, reportable and uncarriable and asking how he could possibly win the game. Yes he admits he's having a bad game but to make out that everyone else is the problem and everyone else is reportable -- Everyone. EXCEPT. For him. Of course. Just really irks me. EDIT 2 : That said, it is worth noting he's trying to FF. In context, them refusing to FF only frames him and sets him up for failure. He knows he's behind. He knows he's tilted. He knows he's entirely reliant on his team to carry. He knows they can't because they're all AA based against a fed Jax. And he knows he can't create space due to Aphelios Cleanse and Akali killing him. Yet he's stuck in this game, where by still trying, he's only going to "int" more, so it kind of punishes him for even trying at all because the rest of his team is keeping him here even though cognitively he's made the decision to go next and NOT int.
It was sarcasm.........................
How can you watch midbeast and not understand sarcasm?
@@958matt I never commented once on what Midbeast said. I was just commenting in general. You don't have to be so defensive all the time guys.
@@xEmpress95 my meaning was that midbeast is massively sarcastic with his sense of humour, so I would have expected viewers of his would be able to pick up on it better. I wasn't trying to say you were talking about anything he said, mb if unclear. But Baus reporting the Jax for inting was definitely tongue-in-cheek
@@958matt Can't be that tongue in cheek since he did actually submit the report and it could have tipped off Riot's system in some way if he got mass reported for inting and he tried to report his winning top laner. And it doesn't explain his genuine ire toward his fellow team (who ironically he didn't report). That said the EDIT 2 does note that he was trying to quit and I'd probably be upset, too. Also that end screen with him doing 34k is nuts. Which in Baus's defense, that kind of game state, and his team's lack of damage / ability to play around his playstyle and see the pressure he's soaking up even as a 2/13 rammus is something I don't have the experience / macro to comment. He does absolutely have a better view of the game state and what needs to happen to win. And that's the big thing right? That's where the entire discussion comes from with Baus. The dude's just figured out a completely different way to win at League of Legends but it's diametrically opposed to how other people figured it out, so when that breaks down, as it has more and more since the Sion nerfs, people lose mental and don't know how to navigate an end game like this. I think the real question shouldn't be whether he deserves to be perma'd, which to clarify, I know Midbeast wasn't suggesting / supporting that, I'm just adding my own thoughts on the broader topic at hand. But rather, I think the fact that the Baus's playstyle works for him, and consistently gets him to high elo while Riot says "no, we don't want you playing this way" actually highlights a major flaw in Riot Games themselves. The very system they've built rewards the Baus's playstyle, and they're mad at him for figuring that out and have aggressively attempted to attack/shut him down for months now rather than actually fix the core issues with the game that allows the Baus to place such a high emphasis on split pushing, tower damage, one/two item power spikes and threat management.
Disgusting game with ridiculous ban policy and an abhorrent ruling as a consequence. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
he plays the exact same playstyle, and can get challenger with it, it's a viable strategy, ONLY baus or maybe just very good players, don't try this anywhere below masters for your and your teammates sanities, but his strat is completely viable and he shouldnt be banned, pretty sure its just EAC banning him whilst Riot arent paying attention to who their EAC is banning
Ah yes thats why he had the worst loss streak ever and made like 40 people suffer in his games
baus fanboys living a year in the past he hasnt sat consistently above master for a bit now
@@lucer5823 Easy solution. Don't play League. You are making yourself suffer everytime you boot up that game. He is another person who has fun playing the game. If you see people like him "wasting your time" by having bad games, then you should think twice what you spend your time on.
@@Jack-ye3uy he literally got rank 30 challenger man
@@Jack-ye3uy he was rank 15 like 2 months ago?
played an aram 2 days ago as rammus and did 53k dmg on my thornmail. dead serious, like the bauss dead. also to your point at 13:30 i have the aram god title and i get focused every game. like over half snowballs are thrown at me consitently. its really helped me get better at dodging though
Ofc man it’s ur team. ITS YOUR TEAM FOR SURE
He gave them 13 kills worth of gold and you agree that his team sucks he set the Jax up for a win
Imagine being challenger and getting banned for being "weak player"
Cos Riot implemented this stupid system which is punishing players who farm people instead of minions by putting bounty on their head. Making the creeps and objectives worth more than killing people(cos killing people makes you more valuable than the person who is being killed, so the person who has no value can keep getting killed to get objectives while person who is killed the inter is worth a lot of gold so for him to die for objectives is not an option, but as mentioned earlier Riot made this more of an objective game rather than pvp). Baus playstyle clearly shows how flawed the Game system is in which you can keep feeding and win the game as long as you get the objectives. Riot doesn't like that. Silly
@@Elyga. Agreed but difficult to balance because if feeders are always worth a lot of gold. 1 player can doom any game... Also if you are getting fed like Jax, you certainly have ways to win with the lead you are getting. And you obviously shouldn't be dying 1vs1 to the 0/7 rammus when you're 7/0.
@@goldenphoenix5945 Just remove the bounty system. Like it was at early seasons. Don't make the person be worth 1000gold.. Just 300g. Cos now 7/0 is not really fed since he is barely getting any gold by killing 0/7 player. Meanwhile 0/7 player can get a kill on a 7/0 player and get roughly the same amount of gold as 7 kills... In my opinion this is the main reason that lol has lost it's fun, since you are being punished by preferring pvp instead of objectives. Dare I say that majority of gamers play for pvp not for pve. But riot made it "pve" or more like "pvs"(player vs system), you getting rewarded by beating the system, not the actual player.
(I remember when I started playing league I would always go for the kill even if it meant dying under turret, that was always worth since killing is the most fun part of the online games, but Riot punishes this kind of playstyle nowadays, and is being upset when a player appeared (thebausffs) who is intentionally dying since killing is being punished. I hope you get my point :)
@@Elyga. I would argue that even if you don't get gold from kills after a certain number of deaths it still denies that person exp. and time to farm. It also allows you time to push objectives and/or roam/group for team advantages.
The bounty system has 2 parts to it. Kill bounties and objective bounties. Kill bounties can be easily prevented if you play well with the lead you have. If they use the Bausffs strategy where 1 always split pushes:
- you can try and either group and engage a 4vs5 fight which should be easily won and translate into baron/drakes and/or pushing towers as 5.
- Or you can have 1 match and try to win 4vs4.
- Or you can try to kill the split pusher when the enemy team can't get other objectives because they often mindlessly push even when the whole team is in base, and they have 0 vision.
This game is about capitalizing on resource allocation/decision making as well as mechanics. In pro play, when ever you see a team commit 2 or 3 to a top dive, you always see the other team try and either counter gank OR cross-map knowing they have a player advantage.
Also, during laning phase, roaming even when not ahead can help get your team fed and translate into other objectives, so if you've gotten 7 kills and good farm/exp. from laning phase, you should be able to provide an advantage to your team.
I also think there is a reason that when you watch pro play, this strategy isn't used. Against good and smart players, it doesn't work well.
I think the concept of kill bounties and even objective bounties makes sense because it allows teams who are behind to get back in the game if they manage to make good plays even after a rough start to the game. I don't think games should just be about laning phase (and ff at 15) but also roaming, teamfighting, decision making, objective taking... and so on. Makes it more fun imo to have more than one strategy to get advantages although you certainly can win with a preferred strategy.
With all that being said, I agree with you that they certainly could tweak/nerf the bounty system to not make it strongly in favor of the losing team. I don't know what analytics they use to balance this but poor play from the winning team should provide a gold and momentum swing to a certain degree.
Let me know what agree/disagree with. :)
TheBausffs is a challenger player. His play style is just different than others. If y’all are really flaming him, you gotta realize there’s a reason he’s challenger with his play style, and you’re hardstuck low elo.
The two deaths when he tried to walk past jax and his tower to proxy were completely troll. Silver players know better than that.
Is that why he got challenger and you're still silver?xd
@@Mvgicalnext time I spectacte my challenger friend I'll tell him to walk into the enemy at 30% hp under his tower because it's what the bauss would do
@@Mvgical He got Challengers because he plays like 8hs everyday what the fuck are you saying kid.
Simple math Will get you there.
@@Mvgical fanboys like you probably see the baus int and be like: wow that’s a play I would make and I’m hardstuck bronze I always knew I was making challenger plays. Regardless if the man is trolling or trying you can’t deny that some of his deaths are hard grieve
@@Mvgicaloneday i hope u grow up kiddo
Just saw you "inting Syndra" game on Baus previous strea :D
Thing is his strat can work, but sometimes it dooms a game. It’s all champ based. If you’re against a kha and akali, 2 champs with high dmg and engage, graves and twitch need to hard win early against them. So baus is a walking money bag early game for hard scaling champs and graves twitch cannot play the game into those champs if they get free kills early. His style is interesting but it is undeniably bad in some games and he’s gotta be able to tell from champ select when to use it or not.
Okay then he'll never win every game. Does that mean he's trying to lose? I don't think so. He makes people play perfectly against him to win, it's just a high % winning. It's riot's fault, not those who use their system in a way they don't want it used.
@@harstar12345 I see your point but here's an example with the shoe on the other foot. Let's say enemy team plays Tryndamere top and your jungler perma invades in a way you can’t follow up as top laner and gifts 2 free kills to a trynda and then you can’t play top lane. Your jungle has a Strat in which he invades every game and gets a lead and it works for him some games, but he has no top or mid prio to do it so he shouldn't that game. He should get reported for doing it that game.
but akali never killed him early game so that doesn't work like that. Graves and twitch underperformed waaay too much, He oculd have gone tank sion if you want that still wouldn't have make a difference in the mid and botlane
@@3xpoc3nt3r ban all one tricks when they counterpick themselves? It's just not a thought to be taken seriously. Riot need to fix the bounty system
@@DajuSar Khazix killed him a lot early game and akali after a few minutes got a few kills on him. It's pretty unfortunate situation in that game also with some out of his control. But again I think of a jungle perma invading 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 times when he can't and then blaming his top laner for it when enemy top gets giga fed off him. You wouldn't be happy
Hes definetly an inter but hes really entertaining
Imagine an "inter" is higher rank than 99% of the people calling him that. Says more about them.
theyre the type of players to worry about the rest of their team and never themselves and they wonder why they're hardstuck.
cuz he gets carried by teammates and him playing offstream
@Vedant Gupta "gets carried" did we watch the same video? he carried his team. all his team needed to do was play. but they'd rather be piss babies amd blame him for the loss. graphs said everything. you're just mad you can't "int" amd make challenger on multiple accts. otherwise you wouldn't be here being a little bitch
midbeast is jealous, cause he will never get challenger multiple times like baus.
@Vedant Gupta hope this is a joke cause lil bro you can't get constantly carried to challenger otherwise you will be a chall yourself.
Got to start a cooking channel 😂
About that reddit post, y'all need to understand that the baus is not losing more games because he dies more, but he dies more because he's losing, in the sense that if he's getting stomped, he will still use his aggressive playstyle and since enemy is fed they will kill him more often. That doesnt mean that if he goes 2/12 and then he starts avoiding deaths he will win.
So essentially what you're saying is that he has the legit bronze mindset to keep the exact same game plan every game no matter what situation and will simply start trolling if it's not gonna go as he hopes it does?
@@Kek393 If you have seen him play illaoi or sion, you must have seen him make crazy low risk high reward plays. When he's 0/10 he doesnt give any gold to enemies but he's always relatively strong because he always gets resources. So if he goes bot at 25 min as 0/10 sion and he manages to destroy tier 2 and bring people on him plus trade a kill or two while being worth 0 gold and his team also gets nashor, thats a very good play and it will work 99% of the time if you know what you're doing. Hes not been randomly challenger for i dont know how many seasons, his playstyle works perfect for him, maybe sometimes recently he has soft inted but hes a good player. The problem with baus is that he has a lot of viewers and they will try to do the same thing while having 2% of the knowledge he has
@@kronosogrekos Cool, except I didn't say he was a bad player. I'm just saying that's the way you described him as. Also from what I understand he climbs off stream and legitimately trolls on stream for content so the ban is well deserved no matter how much his fanboys disagree. Illaoi's literal thing is that she's a sustain monster. You have to actively try to die with her
ty god ! rito finally doing a good work
i think some people hate the bauffs playstyle cause they cant accept how he got challenger with that playstyle
So true. Fucking haters gonna hate cause they ain't as great.
yeah league is infested with afk passive 0 impact players. now i dont go around calling for bans on them, yet they do when someones playstyle challenges their uptight beliefs.
No? We hate it cause it's boring to play with and against.
He’s purposely losing it’s the equivalent of playing soccer and your defender scoring 6 goals in there own goal even if he wins they would fire him the fans would kill him
My favorite part is that a feeding full tank still does more damage than hyperfed assassins. Great game design
He's causing more harm than good. Imagine him play 10 times a day and the 4 other players just see feed. They don't know his style, nor should they. So all day he causing stress, anger, shock, surprise, hate, lost promotions day in day out. Keep in mind I don't care how he plays it's just needs to be on his own 5 man team that Knows his play style.
DESERVED! Averaging 13 deaths a game in the last 15 games on that accounts. REFUSING to back EVER! 1v4 engages while flaming and reporting teammates (while inting). ALWAYS talks about how strong he is and weak his team is. YES you are strong. HOWEVER, you have inted enormous amounts of gold to the enemy top and jungle (sometimes mid too when they roam) that they use against your teammates. Meanwhile you afk split push/proxy int with NO map cover (even though 90% of high elo players have 2 screens and your jungler's ask you too).
If you can get rank 16 in 3 weeks (NOT dying 13-20 times a game in this run btw). Then dying 13-22 times consistently in master games is trolling/int'ing and he admits it on his stream all the time after the fact. "Yeah I need to stop trolling (after engaging 3v1 or 4v1)" comments ect...
BTW the Twitch (was very nice while Bauss was int'ing) who Bauss was flaming was FINE until the fed Kha'zix took part in killing him 4 of his 6 deaths. Flaming Graves after it is partly his fault red got stolen (part graves). Then 100% his fault Graves can't match him because he is far behind in gold and exp and gets 3shot.
Lastly, I'll say everyone I have seen agree's with Bauss at the end about "most damage and Graves". Graves cannot do anything vs a fed Jax; and when Kha'zix is also fed enough to dam near 3 shot you (auto, q, auto, e, out of a bush. Then graves runs for his life). He cannot contest objectives because bot and mid also lost (mid due to Kha'zix). You have to think about the game state; not just the numbers...
Nah too big of a ego on him bro.
@@tiberazur3 He use to be a chill, humble, and nice guy. Now the views have gone to his head and he is a massive passive aggressive, arrogant, all about me masshole. 100% ego. Nothing is ever his fault. He will admit to a death being his fault. Game state and loses are ALWAYS because of his team.
LMFAO THE THUMBNAIL
Love your videos man great commentary. I mean technically he did the best on the team even though his strategy is tilting. His team didn't do much all game, primarily cause they didn't know what to do like you mentioned.
It hard to do much into a fed juggler and top laner....
turbo feeds the enemy carries then wonders why his team can't deal damage when they get deleted
"but it's not inting its a playstyle" Ye so 80% of streamers dont wanna play with him because of his playstyle then youre right.
bout time. dude just feeds for content. altho funny and great content tho
champion that wastes people time and doesn't die, zilean
True and real
Here's the thing, he is allowed to play how and what he wants, 100%. Yes, his inting Sion wins games, but at the same time, his teammates (and sometimes even enemies) are also 100% allowed to get mad at him and not want to play with him. Even if he is even or up gold-wise against his lane opponent, no one wants to play against a 6/0 jungler and a 5/0 top at 5 minutes.
At the end of the day, this is a team based game, and if his playstyle actively makes the game unfun for 4 other people, he has to also be aware of the consequences.
This isn't a "His playstyle works!!/He has positive WR!!" point anymore, this is a "People dont' want him on their team" point.
This is not even mentioning all the copycats that just ruin games with inting sion/rammus/ap irelia because they think they're as good macro wise as Bauss, but that's not really his fault
Despite whatever you think of the BAUS, he climbs to challenger every season, and his play style works for HIM.
I’m down for a 7 day ban for the 1-16 AP irelia game
I'm down for a 7 day ban incrememt for each AP Irelia game played on any of his accounts
Because he doesnt play this disgusting inting playstyle offstream. Check his games offstream and compare to stream games. He basically runs it down whenever he streams and none of his teammates find it fun to play with him
@@666Kaca completely true, which is completely fucking reportable. I like watching him for the good games but man if I had anybody go 0-16 I’m filing a petition to take their computer away from them
@@charmelyTv the worst part is when you have his fanboys in team going 0-20 and refusing to group all game saying "im not inting, baus does it all the time and hes challenger, are you saying hes an inter?" makes me fume irl
I don't have any real negative feelings towards Bausffs, as I do not know him. However, I think these situations highlight an ongoing issue the internet has with streamers/content creators, in when a viewer really begins to follow that content creator heavily, any critique towards the content creator, will almost be taken personally by the viewer. Almost as if the viewers on friend of family member is being insulted. I've seen most of MidBeast's videos on Baus, and every time, you'll see a handful of people having dozens of comments under multiple threads, it's just not healthy to be that upset over someone you just watch for entertainment.
This extends beyond Bausffs, into almost any large streamer/content creators community. This over protection of a controversial stream/content creator also usually gives birth to the opposite side of the spectrum, people who start to really really hate that person.
I think people need to step back and realize Bausffs may not deserve a perma-ban, but there are legit complaints about his playstyle. And that's okay.
RIOT is partially to blame in this though, in the sense that they are so inconsistent with bans and what constitutes them. When T1 he had 2 games where someone had almost 30 deaths in a less than 30 minute game, yet they didn't get banned while he was in EU. That alone makes it hard to defend RIOT for perma-banning Bausffs, even though he playstyle involves trolling a lot, RIOT seems to roll a dice when they decide what trolling or soft inting is.
Everyone in the match knows who he is and many would report him just for fun, even if he didn't int. Jankos reported him on stream because he lost against him.
@Lars-Åke Chesburg 1. The reason people, at high elo, report him is due to his playstyle. Most high elo players have a playtime that is unique to that individual player. Where they play with the same people a lot , yes if Baus throws a game for them they're going to report him. There were several games when he git banned doing Rammus where he: did not have the most gold, had the least amount of tower damage, and had 0 KP. So yes, people are going to report a player like thag everytime they see him
2. Suggesting Jankos just "reported him because he knew him is wild ". Jankos has had a name in LoL before anyone knew who Baus was. So this claim is just wild, and it just feeds off my first point. You're highlighting 1 interaction between Baus and Jankos, while neglecting to mention how many games Baus has lost Jankos with Bauss playstyle.
Your comment just highlights exactly what I was talking about, this larger overarching problem with streamer communities, is they can't handle their entertainer being critiqued. You point out single instances without looking at the overall picture, which is Bauss playstyle heavily tows the line of taking advantage of the bounty system || intentionally feeding.
@@carrymycross6523 no, you're the delusional one. Go check jankos last clip reporting him, it's petty behavior. And baus playstyle is probably older than you because it has been used since wc3. And DotA had no bounty system and you lost money on death, so your logic about system abusing doesn't hold up.
"These players are uncarriable"
While playing a tank, while being 2/13
He's good but he's arrogant and abuses busted stat checkers and no brain champions
you'd have to look at dmg taken+mitigated, tower damage, they showed he did about as much damage as his entire team combined.
also the lvl 1 invade was really on graves and not rammus because the graves is ranged while rammus is not, so graves should have been in the bush or allowed baus to drag the buff into the bush
as far as abusing busted champions thats on riot and not on baus as well (do you think its bannable to play the items with highest winrates next because they are obviously OP?)
so really your only complaint is that you think he's arrogant which i guess is fine, but a lot of people are
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl congrats on him pressing W + E and running it down on towers! Damage doesn't mean shit when you look at the state of the game
@@ReiDavizin yes i agree, the state of the game is that his team was not doing very well. the enemy had a good invade and twitch is always going to lose to akali and he never really tried to roam. baus made pretty decent plays and used the strengths of his champion. and he even solo killed jax 2x and got 2x 1000 gold bounties, took towers, and had ok team fights vs a fed enemy team, and was leading jax in gold the entire 2nd half of the game until his team got gold from taking all the base towers and won the game
@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl I'm sure it's really easy for his team not playing braindead tanks with demolish to auto towers while the enemies he fed early kill them at 5x the rate he does anything
@@zenonzazira it is a tradeoff, and as far as i'm aware there is no player that has a 100% winrate and no strategy that always wins. if you look at the gold over time, jax is never far ahead of rammus and even by 15 mins rammus pulls ahead of jax in gold until the very end of the game. it's ok for you not to understand things, but a smart man will always try to take knowledge away from new experiences
We need a new Pzzang vod DREW!!!
do people forget that this man easily has achieved top 15 and nearly top 10 on the ladder multiple times?? How can you just see his KD and assume it’s bad outright, the problem is the anticheat sees his KD, tied with the loss streak, which, if we’re being honest, is only 5, which is pretty normal for someone who plays that many games, especially a streamer
the problem is what he is doing on stream, yeah off stream he may be top 15 but on stream he ints like a bronze half the time (and lets not even mention the troll picks he does)
Is it me or there is no sounds on start of video
imagine inviting this guy to LEC broadcasts for his playstyle and personality and then banning him and now permabanning him. ACtual insanity from riotgames.
you are not desperately alone broooo. you have us!
People defend his playstyle, but when they have to face a monstrosity of a 5/0 top laner by 5 minutes they flame and report their inter teammate. I like watching baus but he was a clown in this game and the ban was deserved.
Cry little boy
@@SLPWLKNGx how is he crying? The guy is literally telling a fact lol your name probably indicates your rank in league
19:28 "thebausffs comfort zone" xD
Nah but in this game it was actually just inting, no huge IQ strategy I mean come on he´s just repeatedly dying over and over again not having any cs lead, no pressure, just dying. As a toplaner in plat elo I recently have been meeting people that try to copy his strategy and it´s just free games for me as a bruiser player cause from my pov they dont really do anything except for dying
Im just gonna say this coz im a firm believer that truth always need spotlight and surfacing. Disclaimer: i dont watch baus, never did, i dont care about defending him or him being guilty/innocent for his suspension. This specific performance of his is by no means near perfect but its far from bad and light years away from bannable. His jungler could have abused early top skirmishing for insane snowball instead of mental blocking himself into perma pathing bot. Baus had insane pressure on the map (early + mid game) and twitch used none of it. Twitch was kinda counter picked by enemy team but as long as he traded flash with jax on a proper fight he could 1v9 this. And this always needs reminding for some reason but KDA means close to nothing many of times. These players that i mentioned have very little understanding of the game (if any) and they could have complemented baus's playstyle and helped him take a very easy win as he does assume the role of an engage/peeler frontline. Baus remains a very competent player and his understanding of map pressure is one of the best in the ladder. I dont care about debating or convincing anyone with this and i usually never bother to type. If you understand you understand. As a last point i would like to also remind that soloq nowadays doesnt incorporate as much the "have fun" factor that it used to have (which is very important since we are always referring to a video game) or more creative playstyle such as this vod for a number of factors. That doesnt mean playing sth off meta or trying sth weird (and no i dont mean first picking champions) is an auto-loss or justifies teammates tilting and mental blocking. There is a huge mis-information and false sense of knowledge that plagues a lot of people right now concerning league which is sad to see. Good luck on the rift everyone and please remember to act in a human and kind manner :). It costs nothing and helps everyone including you.
Whether or not he wins, his strat holds the lobby hostage, either he wins on his own merit or his team gets shit on by the giga fed top and jungle. Its not healthy to allow it even if he does win with it, its like if Midlane roamed bot to take their waves but they had a positive winrate with the strat in Masters, youre making your teams experience bad.
Every jungler who farms till 6 holds the lobby hostage. Its a 5 v 4 game while 1 selfish player does their own thing. Yeah I agree those players should all get perma banned from ranked. But they don't so neither should this guy.,
And where is the line? If one jungler plays an early game ganking jungler and the other team has a scaling farming jungler, does the scaling jungler need to be banned? Because believe me, the teammates of the scaling farming jungler will not have fun getting ganked over and over without getting help.
What about midlaners? One that roams and one that doesn't. Ban the one that doesn't roam and pushes to win?
Your argument is stupid man. Playing to win is the goal and players should be judged on that. Not on 'enjoyment' of other players because that's such an arbitrary rabbithole...
@@ManicRipper2@TiboNutz these people are so uptight and salty, fucking hell i feel like it has become worse over the years.
Two things on this take; in solo Q you should only trust yourself to carry. You can't trust the other 4 guys on your team. Second, if it's a strategy that is working against the normal playstyle and has huge success, maybe it should be the normal playstyle.
or maybe other master+ players that end up in same lobby as him, should understand how he plays, realize it works for him very VERY well and play around that. he aint challenger for nothin.
playing off meta should not be a punishable offense. and if you think so then you're just boring. Seethe more. stop telling others how to play the game.
11:49 like why can’t he just keep going back to his tower? He did this 4 times lol
Shout out to Positive attitude Twitch honestly. I think it definitely is a workable playstyle from what I've seen, tactical ints for pushing an advantage or objective for sure, but it's not 1v9 as soon as the enemy isn't all AD autoattackers and if you don't adapt to the gamestate pretty quickly it becomes just inting. I don't blame the rest of the team too much for playing pretty scared with 2 assasins, and a fed bruiser, but there were times they just needed to try and play with the aggression. The Rakan definitely missed the memo trying to roam and help and just giving the Jax and Kha another target they can switch too. I think the mental + comments at the end were what kind of pushed it over the edge to being closer to more of an int game imo, not perma worthy on its own but definitely a mark. I didn't see what elo this was at but especially high tier games really need to just have manual review by default.
I'd say deserved, if he not thinking to switch style, every match enemy top laner basically will be fed by Baus, pretty demotivating, plus quite alot of his deaths were unnecessary ints, I like the guy and get the strategy but these days he just runs it down too much, even when he doesn't have to he still does it. But that's just my opinion.
Shoutout to the cringe, passive-aggressive little twat that spams "positivity" even when it's non-applicable, further pissing off everyone else off because he's putting himself in a mental space that you can't reach?
Yeah dude, we love that PoSiTiViTy.
Graves ult 25:17, Graves either got his account boosted or a wintrader. Even gold and silver players wouldn't do that.
To be fair, his inting strategy was fine until he started playing champs that dont work with the strat. Surely we can all agree that playing rammus like a singed or sion isnt the most optimal of playstyles right?
I actually think Riot is to blame. I agree with banning Baus but only because I have always been extremely against ANY passive or dynamic where Sion, Kog'Maw, Karthus and maybe a champ I forgot, benefit from needing and embracing death. This is fundamentally toxic to the game of league of legends and makes very problematic ethics and tactical weighting to an average human's brain let alone highly or low intelligent brain.
The issue is that if intentionally feeding can GENUINELY be optimal, not is optimal but can be perceived that way, due to the kit champions have, then why the fuck would somebody not consistently be inting on that champion and building in a way that works well with this forcing of 1 for 1 deaths or 1 death for a tower etc?
I do not main those 3 champions and fundamentally refuse to ever play them as I think their passives make them toxic and unhealthy to the way league of legends is meant to be played. All champions except those 3 (again, it's possible I forgot 1) have an axiom of playing safe and minimising deaths being optimal.
@@RassionellMaddman kogmaw's passive is actually useless, it does next to nothing compared to the other two, and karthus' one is there for him ot get his ult off after he dies, like the idea that he can still ult to finish a fight if he dies, which considering a lot of his damgage needs him to be close to others makes some sense. Sion's passive is probably the worst by far but unless building lethality or tower diving bot lv1 its mostly uselesss, and lethality is worse than tank objectively and unless ist a super bot meta the sion passive isnt that bad.
the toxic playstyle is much worse when it gets buffed but after the nerf it is optimal to play safe on all 3 champions in every situation unless you are losing a huge wave, in which case any champ would probably suicide for the minions anyway
the toxic style is more int now than ever and its just dumb at that point. its not playing optimally so it is just worse off and just an int playstyle usually.
@@RassionellMaddman that's your opinion, because league players are to too low IQ to use the passives correctly. That's why you want it changed.
Baus can be logically good but also the same player
WHO CANT SEE WHATS WRONG ABOUT GIVING ENEMY EVELYN 25 MEJAI STACKS IN LESS THAN 10MINS.
his bounty system play style is not for everyone. Its unfair for him to expect all his teammates to simply always adapt to him as if its normal. An easy game becomes unreasonably harder coz of his play style. Meta changes and you cant simply one trick a play style forever.