That has 2 NVME slots (the old M6 had one NVME and one SATA), so you can even attach an external GPU using one of those M.2 adapters. I tried it with a 6400 and it was pretty impressive in the FFXIV Dawntrail benchmark. (also tried it with a 4060 but the gain wasn't worth it due to the CPU bottleneck)
I've used PopOS, even bought a System76 laptop. Very happy with it overall however I did go back to Linux Mint because that's what I'm used to for many years. Lately I've switched to Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) and have been very happy. It's also a very easy for a newbie to use. But PopOS is fine, the community support for both are excellent as well,
@@vicviper0017 how's that different than windows? I just had to spend an afternoon troubleshooting after windows updated and I started getting crashes.
When testing out games, You should use the game "Hot Shots Golf: Fore!" on the PS2 as a test. It slows down a lot of systems, so if something will run that, it will run anything. lol
When you scrolled through the available flatpaks, my eye caught Bugdom and Bugdom 2. That's totally random but wow... I haven't played those games since Mac OS 9 in the early 2000s. Had no idea there were flatpaks for those!
I am most interest in N200 (or better) mini PCs that are completely fanless. The Mele quieterpc line is interesting, but the passive cooling on those is pretty inadequate and as a result the performance is lower than a N200 should run.
from r/MiniPCS it looks like the M6 N200 has dangerously high SSD temp speeds... If you use the second NVMe slot it will hit 100C even under minimal load 😱
The actual difference in performance between the N100 and N200 is not a 'blow it out of the water' scenario at all. But at under £$200 this would offer fairly decent value in comparison with what you can get with N100 boxes. I have however, hear that this is not that efficient with it's cooling.
Seems these have now vanished from the market? Pity, the combination of dual m.2 and running off PD made this thing perfect for an IIAB setup. I have been unable to find a comparable or better mini PC that will run off PD.
Running the Xbox app would be great? My main reason being to run FlightSimm 2020? The spec here would support it, and I could test linux with my normal windows app s? Ready to drop windows next year? Any comments?
This looks so great. I bought one of the original Morefine m6s but ended up selling it because the usb c PD was causing my huion drawing tablet to glitch. Great computer otherwise, im using the mele quieter3c because its the least power consuming and runs photoshop decent.
It would be an awesome little device to plug into a TV and use with a controller if there is an OS or setup for that? Essentially SteamOS! I know ChimeraOS exists but it only works with AMD hardware as far as I'm aware
I'm using Zorin OS currently as the preconfigured GNOME theming to look like Windows is great but I'm looking forward to Cosmic Desktop in the next Pop!_OS LTS.
Linux might run a bit cooler than windows because W10/11 have a freaking high CPU usage at idle, but when gaming or something like that, temps will not really differ, I'd say
I own a Morefine M6 11th Gen N5105, bought 18 months ago. It's rubbish. Primarily used it as a streaming video player for a 4k TV, it often crashed out of nowhere and rebooted to BIOS. After a year, it's now completely bricked, just going into endless boot loops. US$220 for 12 months usage - I think it's a raw deal.
I was thinking about the N100 for a Home Arcade and so that one seems much more of a better choice right ? Crazy that its smaller than most N100 systems i see.
If its similar to the N100, no thanks. On mine, plugging anything into the USB-A port is a chore because they don't seat properly and it takes forever. My fan sometimes buzzes on the case. And worst of all, my USB-C port is 480mps - so USB 2 speeds. I am a long time user of PopOS, but now I use it only on my tablet because it is the most touch-friendly Linux variant I have found. Just needed to install a file manager that plays nice with finger touch and scale up the UI.
@@epicoddgamer2900 I use PopOS and Rhino (PopOS on a Dell XPS and Rhino on a Lenovo Thinkpad X) for touch screens. But the file managers leave me cold because they often confuse drag-and-drop operations with tap-to-launch. So, I experimented with a dozen or so, and Nemo seemed to work best. It also has a scale slider right at the bottom of the panel so if I'm not wearing my glasses, I can embiggen the contents quickly.
I'd say zorin and pop are near identical with ease just that pop uses gnome which for some is less user friendly in some cases from people coming from windows and zorin has kde pre-installed as default. And Debian distro running kde with a software installer or store will give best user friendly experience for those who aren't native to Linux.
Do you use your game pad with Bluetooth or wired? I've been trying to get Bluetooth working on popos and I haven't been able to but I never tried it with big picture mode. Can you give any pointers or make a video of it getting Bluetooth working on popos/linux?
Ubuntu is a Debian fork. Pop! OS is based on Ubuntu. Therefore, Pop! OS is indirectly based on Debian, meaning you just saw how it runs with Debian. But you can't run Raspbian on this; that's designed for ARM, Pop! is for x86_64. That being said, this thing ought to be able to handle any x86_64 distro of Linux out there. Keep in mind an N200 is a laptop chip with 4 E-cores and no P-cores, and as such its performance is probably most closely comparable (in desktop CPU terms) to an i3-3240, according to Technical City, edging it out by about 5%.
Yes and No. It is "Dual-channel" in the DDR5 way with single channel/one stick. Which can't really be compared to the dual channel with DDR3 or DDR4. Works differently.
it's not "free Photoshop" as it lacks a lot of the features, especially AI-powered ones. Still, it's sadly the closest FOSS has. There's also Krita. But seriously, there's no "real" FOSS alternative to Photoshop. Not sure if you can run Photoshop under WINE...?
w CPU boost when my n100 boost to 3.5ghz and this n200 3.7ghz same 4 cores but little bit better ntel UHD that's the different. people who have already n100 it's better to wait for n300 8 core or something else.
OMG that New M6 N200 The Perfect low cost Ultra Tiny Mini LINUX PC gotta be the Smallest PC I've ever seen, i'm really impressed WOW! Did I remember it right LINUX is the Operating System for a PC made here in Finland? 🇫🇮🐧
Currently $220 on Amazon, no coupons. Gotta love their dynamic pricing.
Agreed, for 140 it's kind of a neat little box to play with. Run some docker containers, etc. For 220, not so much. though.
$400.00 for the 8 gig model in Canada...
@@SteveTheDouce Different currency.
@@idontlikespm makes me sad $140 wouldve been a snap buy for me
@@fran2911 400 CAD is still equivalent to 300 US. So, what point are you trying to make?
That has 2 NVME slots (the old M6 had one NVME and one SATA), so you can even attach an external GPU using one of those M.2 adapters. I tried it with a 6400 and it was pretty impressive in the FFXIV Dawntrail benchmark. (also tried it with a 4060 but the gain wasn't worth it due to the CPU bottleneck)
So is this recommended? I also have to pay extra for monitors and keywords.
I've used PopOS, even bought a System76 laptop. Very happy with it overall however I did go back to Linux Mint because that's what I'm used to for many years. Lately I've switched to Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) and have been very happy. It's also a very easy for a newbie to use. But PopOS is fine, the community support for both are excellent as well,
First thing I do with any machine now is get rid of windows and install mint
...then I troubleshoot all the minor problems for the next 3-5 hours, only to create more in the process.
@@vicviper0017 You'll get the hang of it eventually. Just keep learning.
@@vicviper0017Not with recent distros. Unless you have Nvidia.
Based on
@@vicviper0017 how's that different than windows? I just had to spend an afternoon troubleshooting after windows updated and I started getting crashes.
that fun to see so small computer deal pop os so easily
I've always appreciated how most of your reviews focus on the product and not the price. Prices mentioned in these reviews are quickly out of date.
Because no one would watch his stuff when they realize how insanely expensive these things are.
Love you doing Linux content! Thanks for that
Seems like it would make a good travel computer
When testing out games, You should use the game "Hot Shots Golf: Fore!" on the PS2 as a test. It slows down a lot of systems, so if something will run that, it will run anything. lol
around 250$
When you scrolled through the available flatpaks, my eye caught Bugdom and Bugdom 2. That's totally random but wow... I haven't played those games since Mac OS 9 in the early 2000s. Had no idea there were flatpaks for those!
I do appreciate you pronouncing Ubuntu correctly
Vanilla OS, I am interested in this one. My 2009 Mac Pro is too old for this distro, but it runs Manjaro just fine.
With all of those ports, it looks like one of those USB docking stations, if they came with a built-in PC lol
I am most interest in N200 (or better) mini PCs that are completely fanless. The Mele quieterpc line is interesting, but the passive cooling on those is pretty inadequate and as a result the performance is lower than a N200 should run.
On Amazon people saying that this device is overheating constantly
Too much thermal paste
from r/MiniPCS it looks like the M6 N200 has dangerously high SSD temp speeds... If you use the second NVMe slot it will hit 100C even under minimal load 😱
The actual difference in performance between the N100 and N200 is not a 'blow it out of the water' scenario at all.
But at under £$200 this would offer fairly decent value in comparison with what you can get with N100 boxes.
I have however, hear that this is not that efficient with it's cooling.
I'd love to see Lunar lake in this form factor and size.
The power on that will be great for games and video editing and
all kinds.
Only 3 months later and it's nowhere to be found on Amazon?
I have real concerns over the specifications of these mini pcs and whether they're built to last or ultimately destined for landfill in a few years.
Put KDE Neon Linux on it. The Plasma desktop rocks.
I'd be interested in seeing what it can do with a decent-ish GPU via oculink
Agreed. Since it has two m.2 slots. Specs say it's pcie 3.0, but doesn't mention how many lanes per slot.
that would make a perfect jellyfin server! would probably replace my lenovo timy m83
Seems these have now vanished from the market? Pity, the combination of dual m.2 and running off PD made this thing perfect for an IIAB setup. I have been unable to find a comparable or better mini PC that will run off PD.
More Linux please, gracias!
You forgot to list the price $.....title says "Low Cost" how much is it?
@@flyaway6671 LOL.. you can get better PC second hand for less. HP 705 G4 DM (R5PRO 2400G, 2x4GB ram, 256GB nvme) is just ~$90...
@@flyaway6671 where ? newegg says 610 usd with windows 11
not low cost at all.
"Low cost" is subjective and can change. It's probably better not to include the cost in the video because it becomes dated very quickly.
I bought it for $180 a few weeks ago.
Go Pop_Os I've been running it on my laptop for about 3 years now. It will follow me to my next mini pc purchase for sure.
Everyone inflation affects everything. ETA Prime isn’t control of how the price was an what it’s now!
FOE NEW COMERS POP IS THE ONE I'D USE
I wish this particular model will comes with
Latest 14th gen
Intel core 3 100u 4.7hz
Thanks for your videos
would love to see what this pulls with a watt meter
Running the Xbox app would be great? My main reason being to run FlightSimm 2020? The spec here would support it, and I could test linux with my normal windows app s? Ready to drop windows next year? Any comments?
This looks so great. I bought one of the original Morefine m6s but ended up selling it because the usb c PD was causing my huion drawing tablet to glitch. Great computer otherwise, im using the mele quieter3c because its the least power consuming and runs photoshop decent.
What impresses me is that it's a 6 watt processor.
Ohhhh. If i can get this with some fast amd GPU I'll be very interested in this.
It's be interested to see how it runs Ubuntu Studio, with some video editing and maybe music production
oculink would have been handy about now i could drive my rtx 3050 without extra power on this thing just fine
It would be an awesome little device to plug into a TV and use with a controller if there is an OS or setup for that? Essentially SteamOS! I know ChimeraOS exists but it only works with AMD hardware as far as I'm aware
Thank you. Is it possible to set Raid 1 for the two SSD in Bios ?
Love the video, i wish samsung dex would get really hardcore serious in pushing DEX.
How was the temperature when running office excel or gaming?
i been looking something small like this for lunchbox. Want to make my own housing and put it in.
As there are 2 m.2 slots, does that mean I can use one slot for a GPU?
Nice but, I the GMKtec N97 Micro NUC beats this on price/size & power.
two m.2 slots tho. that's really nice
@@dreamybull1509 Depending on the use case, i guess it could be.
👍
What is that black, gray, and orange keyboard you’re using with it (at least in the first ⅓ of the video)?
Can it be used with ipad 10 as a screen . So for productivity i can switch on this and for content watching and normal browsing i can use the ipad os.
You night be able to use VNC like No machine or something better.
Which keyboard you can use..? In this video
Any issues with drivers for the NIC and WiFi when installing Linux distros?
I wonder if we could use a mini GPU such as the ASRock Intel ARC A380 to run demanding games such as GTA V in low settings.
Would love to see you use Linux Mint (with Cinnamon desktop).
It would probably perform the same as both are Ubuntu based
I mean Burnout 3 on PS2 would be a good test due to the sheer speed. If something can't run it I doubt it can't run much else.
Test with manjaro please
I'm using Zorin OS currently as the preconfigured GNOME theming to look like Windows is great but I'm looking forward to Cosmic Desktop in the next Pop!_OS LTS.
Would you be able to add a section about this running as a Plex Server and how many transcodes it could do with he-acceleration?
2 m.2 slots ?? i would love to see this with oculink
and a decent egpu
I hope you will test linux on a Intel ARC mini pc system.
How well can this run newer games with an external gpu? I've always wanted a minimal system for my desktop!
Soon we will going to see more DIY steamdecks around, now that those powerful computers are shrinking down a lot. :)
whats that keyboard you are using? it looks nice
how does pop compare to Cinnamon OS - I've heard that is a pretty good Linux OS as well
Would a device run hotter if running windows than linux?
Linux might run a bit cooler than windows because W10/11 have a freaking high CPU usage at idle, but when gaming or something like that, temps will not really differ, I'd say
I still am a big fan of the PoE powered S100 though.
are we going to get ARM mini-PCs with newest Snapdragon chips?
Not on Amazon...
Will you do n100 vs n200 ?
N97 beats em both.
@@PiManiacNormally Yes. But you will be surprised how people push the N100. LOL. But yes, go with the N97, can't go wrong.
finally a server to replace my raspberry pi
The CPU is basically an i5-7500?
crazy that it can run valorant on 20W its def worth it if ur living in a van with limited power usage or idk
van or off grid gaming for sure - what a time to be alive where a computer can do all this and use power like a light bulb
Make sure to include Minecraft! It's should be perfect for this genre of devices!!
Can this machine run Unreal Engine without performance issues or overheating?
I would like to see LMDE on this PC
Truenas scale on it? Could be a micro nas for Plex with external storage
Which is faster vega 7 or this 32 eu?
I own a Morefine M6 11th Gen N5105, bought 18 months ago. It's rubbish.
Primarily used it as a streaming video player for a 4k TV, it often crashed out of nowhere and rebooted to BIOS.
After a year, it's now completely bricked, just going into endless boot loops. US$220 for 12 months usage - I think it's a raw deal.
my beelink had a shorted motherboard after 16 mos. I will get the M6 with windows next
How can Hades 2 run? It's only available for Windows.
Proton
I was thinking about the N100 for a Home Arcade and so that one seems much more of a better choice right ? Crazy that its smaller than most N100 systems i see.
If its similar to the N100, no thanks. On mine, plugging anything into the USB-A port is a chore because they don't seat properly and it takes forever. My fan sometimes buzzes on the case. And worst of all, my USB-C port is 480mps - so USB 2 speeds. I am a long time user of PopOS, but now I use it only on my tablet because it is the most touch-friendly Linux variant I have found. Just needed to install a file manager that plays nice with finger touch and scale up the UI.
Care to name the file manager.
@@epicoddgamer2900 I use PopOS and Rhino (PopOS on a Dell XPS and Rhino on a Lenovo Thinkpad X) for touch screens. But the file managers leave me cold because they often confuse drag-and-drop operations with tap-to-launch. So, I experimented with a dozen or so, and Nemo seemed to work best. It also has a scale slider right at the bottom of the panel so if I'm not wearing my glasses, I can embiggen the contents quickly.
Can some one link a vid or explain why it says max 2 tb ? Nvme?
Yeah Not Bad, I Like It! But Can It Run Crysis? Thank You.
Looks like its no longer on Amazon.
Lubuntu and mint for distros. also, do elite x soc with linux
Zorin OS > Pop/Mint/Manjaro/etc. when it comes to ease of use and if you are coming from Windows.
I'd say zorin and pop are near identical with ease just that pop uses gnome which for some is less user friendly in some cases from people coming from windows and zorin has kde pre-installed as default. And Debian distro running kde with a software installer or store will give best user friendly experience for those who aren't native to Linux.
Does Linux have office applications?
Useless without Wine, most of the useful softwares need to be emulated
@@TheRealUsername Complete bullshit, LibreOffice works under on Linux as would it on Mac and Windows.
Libre office
Yeah. OpenOffice, libreoffice, online version of ms office and native with emulation
Does Linux have satisfying graphics card support ? 🤭
You will do a lot of these. Can you recommend something for 400 and lower ? I want to buy machine for 1080p video editing on Linux AMD only
Can you use steam link with this
HOW MANY LANES OF PCIe ON THE NVMe INTERFACE ??
THE MEMORY IS NOT DUAL CHANNEL ??
Do you use your game pad with Bluetooth or wired? I've been trying to get Bluetooth working on popos and I haven't been able to but I never tried it with big picture mode. Can you give any pointers or make a video of it getting Bluetooth working on popos/linux?
It's nice looking unit. Seems to run pretty smooth with Linux. How does it run with Debian Linux such as raspberry pi OS?
Ubuntu is a Debian fork. Pop! OS is based on Ubuntu. Therefore, Pop! OS is indirectly based on Debian, meaning you just saw how it runs with Debian. But you can't run Raspbian on this; that's designed for ARM, Pop! is for x86_64.
That being said, this thing ought to be able to handle any x86_64 distro of Linux out there. Keep in mind an N200 is a laptop chip with 4 E-cores and no P-cores, and as such its performance is probably most closely comparable (in desktop CPU terms) to an i3-3240, according to Technical City, edging it out by about 5%.
Is the RAM dual-channel?
Yes and No. It is "Dual-channel" in the DDR5 way with single channel/one stick. Which can't really be compared to the dual channel with DDR3 or DDR4. Works differently.
Link for the 512 gb Linux ssd?
no
I would hardly call GIMP "photo-editing"
it's not "free Photoshop" as it lacks a lot of the features, especially AI-powered ones. Still, it's sadly the closest FOSS has. There's also Krita. But seriously, there's no "real" FOSS alternative to Photoshop. Not sure if you can run Photoshop under WINE...?
w CPU boost when my n100 boost to 3.5ghz and this n200 3.7ghz same 4 cores but little bit better ntel UHD that's the different. people who have already n100 it's better to wait for n300 8 core or something else.
or just get something n97 which is more powerful, pricing is similar, but has higher tdp
OMG that New M6 N200 The Perfect low cost Ultra Tiny Mini LINUX PC gotta be the Smallest PC I've ever seen, i'm really impressed WOW! Did I remember it right LINUX is the Operating System for a PC made here in Finland? 🇫🇮🐧
Neofetch is dead. Long live Neofetch
Can you try an egpu
can you test farming simulator 22 on this machine?
I'd like this if it didn't overheat.
This manages 16gb of ram but a 2000$ MacBook still has 8
Because Apple loves to rip people off and their users are all too content to accept it. I'll never understand it.
Will it run the raspberry pi OS?
only the 32bit version is available for x86