Why do you expect more from Evans? He's just another money hungry pretender. If they were not, they wouldn't have had anything to do with the likes of Robert morris or daystar.
Jimmy gave them the go ahead and said he had grounds for divorce. No he didn't. Adultery is the only grounds for divorce, not any kind of abuse if it actually happened. Your comment is right, we shouldn't be surprised if Jimmy Evans, as my son recently said to me, mom why are you surprised, none of the preachers are honest or good. It's all about money ,praise and power Wonder how much Joni paid Jimmy to give her the ok to marry him? In that meeting, they wouldn't even give Jonathan a chance to speak. He had already made up his mind to screw, oh sorry, marry Joni and nothing would stop him, not even if God could heal his marriage to Lisa. He didn't want it healed. He wanted money, Joni and to be a head of this so called ministry. Did you notice I put money first. What got me was Joni cussing in that meeting. This group of hypocrites is no better than Nazis 👹🤬😡 just wait, judgement day is coming.
Sadly Joni has displayed desperation in needing a man. She has disrespected the church. Marcus should’ve stepped away from ministry when he cheated, for 7 years, he was no longer biblically qualified. Deceit is deep with Daystar and does not need to be associated with the body of Christ.
Pictures I’ve seen of Marcus and Joni, Marcus standing there with his shirt tail out, one arm out for Joni to hold onto. Showing no affection. He was a narcissist. Every thing all about him. I think Joni was afraid she’d lose the money. It’s sad that she thinks she’s found love with Doug. She sought love and attention from a man.
I’ve read people’s comments on Joni’s being widow. I’m a widow. My husband died two years ago and it’s been very difficult, but I’m not desperate to be in a relationship or marry someone unless God brings them into my life.. And emotionally I’m just not at the place where I’ve been ready so I don’t think we can give her a pass because she was desperate and lonely. There are times when I’m feeling alone that I could compromise and go out with someone who is not who I know God wants me to be with, but I just can’t see giving her a pass because she was lonely. That whole marriage scenario was a disaster. There’s no way to untangle it that it’s not sinful the way he divorced his wife and the way they announced their engagement like a month later It’s a lot of shady things
He lied by omission for so many months to his staff and patients. The very reason I was at his center Heart to Heart! So frustrating. It makes me sick thinking of the money we spent on hus program and he's no different than my ex.
Doug and Joni trying to justify their marriage is not justifiable! From what i understand Lisa wasn’t unfaithful to Doug! She still loved her husband……there are zero grounds for them to even start a relationship! When you make a vow before God you take it seriously. I am going on 60 years of marriage and I love my husband more than ever. I am blessed God sent him to me after much prayer! This union will suffer because they broke vows!
If you listen to the interview Johnathan secretly taped. You will hear Doug screaming "He was abused for years by Lisa". Makes me wonder exactly who was being abused?? Praying for all involved especially little baby girl Lamb.
@ I listened to to every word of the interview! Quite revealing! Since adultery is the only reason allowed for divorce it is very easy to judge this one! She was never accused of cheating! Doug saying he was abused for years proves he is a liar. He praised her for years!
I say kudos to Johnathon and Suzy. This is a public ministry that gets lots and lots of donations. Sometimes in this twisted world, we need to know what we are tithing into. We need to sow into good soil. Prayers for all involved.
This whole ordeal is so sad we must be wise as a serpent , keep Christ as the center of our lives. I commend Jonathan and Susie for taking a stand for what is right. May The Lords will be done.
Dont really have to make more comments we all see the truth but one question did just come to mind...What do Suzi and Jonathan plan to do in their future to support their family? Has anyone asked them that?
If Joni wants to live righteous get rid of Doug and live a submissive life to Christ and stand for Jonathan and Suzy’ s daughter. That is the upright life according to the Word of God. Joni is related to me in any way, but she professed as a follower of Cherian’s live against the principles of God and be a bad witness to godly marriages and youngsters . She has to resign immediately
This is not about the child anymore this is about destruction of human lives. Why not leave this in God's Hands as He knows the heart of everyone of these families involved. Be careful what you listen to. Don't get involved in things you only have one side of the story. The enemy brings division... This is not God's heart.
Joni intentionally broke Doug and Lisa's marriage. Doug was the apple of her eye and she was putting billions of dollars in line to ensure nothing and noone came in her way
I know that Joni is wrong. And is still quilty of a lot of things. GOD says HE WILL PAY BACK. I have a question? Does anybody have disrespectful self untitled children? No matter what you do for them or give them they are still greedy and disrespectful. Jonathan is less than a man to tell his mother dirty secrets and Suzie is the daughter In law from hell. I am a parent that loves my children but sometimes their self entitlement shows. It's hurtful. Jonathan is quilty. He has forgotten how GOD says to treat his mother. I hope Suzie remembers her vows when Jonathan is broke and stay with him and not divorce him and remarry like her mother in law did.
I encourage you to be VERY careful of what you say of others. Could you be projecting? Your kids are not as you would want them to be so now you put those thoughts on others? I think Suzy is a far better person. Perhaps you are not being fair to her.
I want to ask you, Have you raised any children? and had to spank them. Just because Joni is wrong in her choice of a husband does not mean she is out to hurt her son or grand child. Jonathan is hurting and confused and disrespectful. Marcus would frown on Jonathan.
At first, I was mad and upset about all this, and running at the mouth just how I felt.... But, we just celebrated the Season of unconditional MERCY, FORGIVENESS, and LOVE...Yeshua-Jesus!!!!. Therefore, I've decided to just,TRUST, and let GOD, be GOD, and let HIM straighten all this out, HIMSELF, (with no emotional human attitude help from me.) I, choose, for the New Year 2025, to personally forgive them both, Dougie & Joni, and just wish them well. For it looks like Lisa, has chosen to do the same, and has moved on. I, as a Christian, am hardly righteous perfect myself, but the LORD knows I try, and is ever Merciful with me, still!!! (May HE BE forever Praised!!!) I'm staying out of their business, and pray Suzy & Jonathan, put a lid on it, and start their own Christian Network if they wish to do so, and leave Doug & Joni to the One that knows all things and is the Only One who can, not only fix things, but, make things completely whole again..... Our Almighty Sovereign GOD! HIS Mercy is FOREVER! Amen!
You must be either on Daystar payroll a paid friend a relative, or purely a naive person! Joni has no fear of GOD! because she is the god of Daystar! She can do and say whatever she wants. May GOD have mercy on her.
@@Catlady-x5o I'm not any of these things you mention, but a sinner, indeed, who's mercifully been redeemed by the Grace of GOD, I am. I, too, was angered at first. But, it's time we let GOD remedy this and bring Doug and Joni back to HIS fold. They both have heard from their elders, friends, and their own 'inner voice', I'm sure, but only GOD can see and perfectly discern their hearts, and judge them. Nothing is hidden from HIM, and GOD Will Not Be Mocked! (Believe me, I know!!!!). I, too, pray for GOD's mercy for their human, weak souls, in full faith, that HE will be more merciful than either one of us could ever imagine! That is my hope.
@@ionesanchez9660 Yes, I too I'm a sinner. I'm sorry if I offended you. I pray that the truth will come out. I also pray for that little girl to heal.🙏
A Sexless. Marriage is grounds for divorce. Maybe it was really a unreconcileble, NO Affection. But maybe she knew about Joni. Must did if Joni sent them to cousuling lmao??? That's just Gullible joni!!😣
Why would Joni send anyone to counseling??!?? Did you send your husband Marcus to counseling not to mention the affair had gone on for a long time. Joni said the Lord told her he's worth fighting for. Did God not tell Lisa the same thing, he's worth fighting for and Doug did you not think your marriage was worth fighting for!?! All of you make me sick, pardon me while I go puke.😮
Can someone speak some sense into Jonathan's head. Your parent is your parent no matter what. The way he is dealing with the matter is not proper. Should Joni die because of stress he will regret. He should stop pleasing people at his Mom's s expense. To adults who are encouraging him in disrespecting his mom, be careful for you shall reap what you sow
If anything was done improperly, it started with Joni Lamb. she created her own stress when she disrespected her own self with that sham marraige and covering up her grandchilds SA. We all heard the stories, not only by Johnathan but by ex employees of Daystar...I am glad for the exposure of deep corruption behind those walls. God himself is exposing evils starting with his church, according to all the phrophets. That snake Jimmy Evans is another joker!!! This is the year of exposure. Thank God for his mercies. Enough is enough!!! If she dies of stress it's was self induced!!!
anything was done improperly, it started with Joni Lamb. she disrespected her own self with that sham marraige and covering up her grandchilds SA. We all heard the stories, not only by Johnathan but by ex employees who left daystar because of moral convictions....I am glad for the exposure of deep corruption behind those walls. God himself is exposing evils starting with his church, according to all the phrophets. That snake Jimmy Evans is another joker!!! This is the year of exposure. Thank God for his mercies. Enough is enough! If she dies of stress, and i pray not, its self induced.
Jonathan is standing up for what it right; just because someone is your parent does not mean you have to accept their deception and sinfulness. Joni has been disrespectful to her son and daughter-in-law plus her grand-daughter. Joni has also been disrespectful to her ministry and the people who follow and send money to Daystar by her adultery and stealing a married woman's husband. The fact that Marcus had a seven year affair show that Daystar has been a sham for years.
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Doug & Joni's marriage will not last
I hope she neglected to get a prenup!
Or maybe they live together all long time and suffer through it😂!
Sickening ...both of them
It is very obvious that Joni encouraged Doug to divorce his wife to marry her …
Jimmy Evans is responsible for playing a part in this deception
Why do you expect more from Evans? He's just another money hungry pretender. If they were not, they wouldn't have had anything to do with the likes of Robert morris or daystar.
Jimmy gave them the go ahead and said he had grounds for divorce. No he didn't. Adultery is the only grounds for divorce, not any kind of abuse if it actually happened. Your comment is right, we shouldn't be surprised if Jimmy Evans, as my son recently said to me, mom why are you surprised, none of the preachers are honest or good. It's all about money ,praise and power Wonder how much Joni paid Jimmy to give her the ok to marry him? In that meeting, they wouldn't even give Jonathan a chance to speak. He had already made up his mind to screw, oh sorry, marry Joni and nothing would stop him, not even if God could heal his marriage to Lisa. He didn't want it healed. He wanted money, Joni and to be a head of this so called ministry. Did you notice I put money first. What got me was Joni cussing in that meeting. This group of hypocrites is no better than Nazis 👹🤬😡 just wait, judgement day is coming.
If you have to justify something this much theres something wrong
Sadly Joni has displayed desperation in needing a man. She has disrespected the church. Marcus should’ve stepped away from ministry when he cheated, for 7 years, he was no longer biblically qualified. Deceit is deep with Daystar and does not need to be associated with the body of Christ.
@@jo8198 and joni had every right to divorce him and take everything, she should have done that, too.
Pictures I’ve seen of Marcus and Joni, Marcus standing there with his shirt tail out, one arm out for Joni to hold onto. Showing no affection. He was a narcissist. Every thing all about him. I think Joni was afraid she’d lose the money. It’s sad that she thinks she’s found love with Doug. She sought love and attention from a man.
People go to Doug to save marriage not for divorce what happened to him didn’t take his own advice Don’t go to him unless you want divorce
How did we get from a child being molested to this? What’s the most important thing right now?
I’m not a lawyer but moral turpitude comes to mind.
I'm failing to understand what the point of this question is?!?! Not really. 🤔 Is this Red Wig?!?
I’ve read people’s comments on Joni’s being widow. I’m a widow. My husband died two years ago and it’s been very difficult, but I’m not desperate to be in a relationship or marry someone unless God brings them into my life.. And emotionally I’m just not at the place where I’ve been ready so I don’t think we can give her a pass because she was desperate and lonely. There are times when I’m feeling alone that I could compromise and go out with someone who is not who I know God wants me to be with, but I just can’t see giving her a pass because she was lonely. That whole marriage scenario was a disaster. There’s no way to untangle it that it’s not sinful the way he divorced his wife and the way they announced their engagement like a month later It’s a lot of shady things
There is also the widow that stayed in the temple until Jesus was born. It's my understanding that she was there a lonnng time.
Joni says Sleezy Doug is a good, honorable man....😅😂😅😂 What a JOKE!!!!!!!
Doug doesn't care about his little center, he's got millions now!!!!!!!
He lied by omission for so many months to his staff and patients. The very reason I was at his center Heart to Heart! So frustrating. It makes me sick thinking of the money we spent on hus program and he's no different than my ex.
I wonder if you can get your money back.
Doug and Joni trying to justify their marriage is not justifiable! From what i understand Lisa wasn’t unfaithful to Doug! She still loved her husband……there are zero grounds for them to even start a relationship! When you make a vow before God you take it seriously. I am going on 60 years of marriage and I love my husband more than ever. I am blessed God sent him to me after much prayer! This union will suffer because they broke vows!
What happened to the promise to love in sickness and health until death do you part??? Doug is a low life!
If you listen to the interview Johnathan secretly taped. You will hear Doug screaming "He was abused for years by Lisa". Makes me wonder exactly who was being abused?? Praying for all involved especially little baby girl Lamb.
@ I listened to to every word of the interview! Quite revealing! Since adultery is the only reason allowed for divorce it is very easy to judge this one! She was never accused of cheating! Doug saying he was abused for years proves he is a liar. He praised her for years!
It takes two to tango….
Doug misled his misleading
patients .He is going after Daystar monies.
Doug and Joni truly make me feel sick to my stomach they're so creepy
I say kudos to Johnathon and Suzy. This is a public ministry that gets lots and lots of donations. Sometimes in this twisted world, we need to know what we are tithing into. We need to sow into good soil. Prayers for all involved.
Sounds like Davids life. Sometimes we have to learn and when your on the screen,makes it a lot tougher.
Bully narcissist
No reports were made of joni arranging counselling between dog and lisa..😮
Yes, there are. Doug and his first wife went to Denise Boggs.
@frygirla8858 source?
@oozy-e9b watch Laura-Lynn Thompson
Why Did Joni Make appointment???😲👿👹😈😠
This whole ordeal is so sad we must be wise as a serpent , keep Christ as the center of our lives. I commend Jonathan and Susie for taking a stand for what is right. May The Lords will be done.
I'm praying for all that has fallen away from God because of wrong choices to repent and make things right.
Dont really have to make more comments we all see the truth but one question did just come to mind...What do Suzi and Jonathan plan to do in their future to support their family? Has anyone asked them that?
I would assume that they are looking at options as indicated in another video.
I knew all along that Doug is not in love with Joni. Joni squandered donor funds on Doug in order to get him. Joni is not a good woman.
@@shammahelizabeth1239 I agree....I wouldnt have a marriage or honeymoon if I had to pay for it being a woman the bride! No WAY!
@@marciaheadley9933 Do you mean options to be in charge of Daystar or other ministries?
and is Jonathan a Pastor? I wonder what he went to college for.
Hmmmmmm, no hiding place for the wicked. Joni and Doug are a deceptive duo. This is very sad.
If Joni wants to live righteous get rid of Doug and live a submissive life to Christ and stand for Jonathan and Suzy’ s daughter.
That is the upright life according to the Word of God.
Joni is related to me in any way, but she professed as a follower of Cherian’s live against the principles of God and be a bad witness to godly marriages and youngsters .
She has to resign immediately
If I repeat what Im hearing in the video, it's now a violation
Who bought the engagement ring? With who money? Who really payed for the honeymoon? Doug should have payed for both ring and honeymoon
dog & Lisa 😂
isnt it against Texas law for a councelor to date a former client within 5 years?
It was already to late for Lisa and Doug, because it sounds like Joni and Doug were already in emotionally affair!
This is not about the child anymore this is about destruction of human lives. Why not leave this in God's Hands as He knows the heart of everyone of these families involved. Be careful what you listen to. Don't get involved in things you only have one side of the story. The enemy brings division... This is not God's heart.
God can only bless a marriage if the two become one in his presence. Dough is already one with Lissa. God does not bless adultry.
Joni never got over Marcus Lamb seven year infidelity.
Doug & Joni are living an unclean life not pleasing to the LORD...
Joni intentionally broke Doug and Lisa's marriage. Doug was the apple of her eye and she was putting billions of dollars in line to ensure nothing and noone came in her way
But you dont know that
Why did you approve of him? Why so many text messages approving of the relationship even being excited???
I know that Joni is wrong. And is still quilty of a lot of things. GOD says HE WILL PAY BACK. I have a question? Does anybody have disrespectful self untitled children? No matter what you do for them or give them they are still greedy and disrespectful. Jonathan is less than a man to tell his mother dirty secrets and Suzie is the daughter In law from hell. I am a parent that loves my children but sometimes their self entitlement shows. It's hurtful. Jonathan is quilty. He has forgotten how GOD says to treat his mother. I hope Suzie remembers her vows when Jonathan is broke and stay with him and not divorce him and remarry like her mother in law did.
That's how I feel.
I encourage you to be VERY careful of what you say of others. Could you be projecting? Your kids are not as you would want them to be so now you put those thoughts on others? I think Suzy is a far better person. Perhaps you are not being fair to her.
I want to ask you, Have you raised any children? and had to spank them. Just because Joni is wrong in her choice of a husband does not mean she is out to hurt her son or grand child. Jonathan is hurting and confused and disrespectful. Marcus would frown on Jonathan.
At first, I was mad and upset about all this, and running at the mouth just how I felt.... But, we just celebrated the Season of unconditional MERCY, FORGIVENESS, and LOVE...Yeshua-Jesus!!!!. Therefore, I've decided to just,TRUST, and let GOD, be GOD, and let HIM straighten all this out, HIMSELF, (with no emotional human attitude help from me.) I, choose, for the New Year 2025, to personally forgive them both, Dougie & Joni, and just wish them well. For it looks like Lisa, has chosen to do the same, and has moved on. I, as a Christian, am hardly righteous perfect myself, but the LORD knows I try, and is ever Merciful with me, still!!! (May HE BE forever Praised!!!)
I'm staying out of their business, and pray Suzy & Jonathan, put a lid on it, and start their own Christian Network if they wish to do so, and leave Doug & Joni to the One that knows all things and is the Only One who can, not only fix things, but, make things completely whole again..... Our Almighty Sovereign GOD! HIS Mercy is FOREVER! Amen!
You must be either on Daystar payroll a paid friend a relative, or purely a naive person! Joni has no fear of GOD! because she is the god of Daystar! She can do and say whatever she wants. May GOD have mercy on her.
I pray the perpetrator of their little girls abuse will be uncovered, as well as other Christian leaders who hide such things
@@Catlady-x5o I'm not any of these things you mention, but a sinner, indeed, who's mercifully been redeemed by the Grace of GOD, I am. I, too, was angered at first.
But, it's time we let GOD remedy this and bring Doug and Joni back to HIS fold. They both have heard from their elders, friends, and their own 'inner voice', I'm sure, but only GOD can see and perfectly discern their hearts, and judge them. Nothing is hidden from HIM, and GOD Will Not Be Mocked! (Believe me, I know!!!!).
I, too, pray for GOD's mercy for their human, weak souls, in full faith, that HE will be more merciful than either one of us could ever imagine! That is my hope.
@@ionesanchez9660 Yes, I too I'm a sinner. I'm sorry if I offended you. I pray that the truth will come out. I also pray for that little girl to heal.🙏
@Catlady-x5o Amen!🙏
A Sexless. Marriage is grounds for divorce. Maybe it was really a unreconcileble, NO Affection. But maybe she knew about Joni. Must did if Joni sent them to cousuling lmao??? That's just Gullible joni!!😣
Why would Joni send anyone to counseling??!?? Did you send your husband Marcus to counseling not to mention the affair had gone on for a long time. Joni said the Lord told her he's worth fighting for. Did God not tell Lisa the same thing, he's worth fighting for and Doug did you not think your marriage was worth fighting for!?! All of you make me sick, pardon me while I go puke.😮
What man goes about talking about his mother's love life and marriage secrets publicly?
Truth must come out. We are to expose the secrets of darkness.
Huh? I don't hear sny juicy details that would be embarrassing. However, Doug's body motions and his words while doing that are rude!!
Can someone speak some sense into Jonathan's head. Your parent is your parent no matter what. The way he is dealing with the matter is not proper. Should Joni die because of stress he will regret. He should stop pleasing people at his Mom's s expense.
To adults who are encouraging him in disrespecting his mom, be careful for you shall reap what you sow
If anything was done improperly, it started with Joni Lamb. she created her own stress when she disrespected her own self with that sham marraige and covering up her grandchilds SA. We all heard the stories, not only by Johnathan but by ex employees of Daystar...I am glad for the exposure of deep corruption behind those walls. God himself is exposing evils starting with his church, according to all the phrophets. That snake Jimmy Evans is another joker!!! This is the year of exposure. Thank God for his mercies. Enough is enough!!! If she dies of stress it's was self induced!!!
Daystar is reaping what they sowed!!!!
anything was done improperly, it started with Joni Lamb. she disrespected her own self with that sham marraige and covering up her grandchilds SA. We all heard the stories, not only by Johnathan but by ex employees who left daystar because of moral convictions....I am glad for the exposure of deep corruption behind those walls. God himself is exposing evils starting with his church, according to all the phrophets. That snake Jimmy Evans is another joker!!! This is the year of exposure. Thank God for his mercies. Enough is enough! If she dies of stress, and i pray not, its self induced.
I heard in my spirit on Dec 22 - I am cleaning My house. God will use whom He wills as He wills.
Jonathan is standing up for what it right; just because someone is your parent does not mean you have to accept their deception and sinfulness. Joni has been disrespectful to her son and daughter-in-law plus her grand-daughter. Joni has also been disrespectful to her ministry and the people who follow and send money to Daystar by her adultery and stealing a married woman's husband. The fact that Marcus had a seven year affair show that Daystar has been a sham for years.