Listening to Brian Molefe speak here is very thought provoking...The approach of questioning can take the discussion in any direction and its interesting
True, he is digging himself deeper and evidence is showing he is lying because he is being told someone under oath said he knew about his appointment before he was appointed. He says it's a rumour that can't be a rumour someone speaking under oath
@@SOUTHAFRICATODAYONLINE Did you see that your statement has an inherent assumption that People who speak under oath do not lie, but yet you do not afford Molefe the same courtesy. Your assertions have to be false to be true!
The Chairperson's logic is based on a one sided evidence of a meeting whether the other attendee has not given evidence. This point is being prematurely taken too far.
I spent almost 20 minutes listening to the ridiculous questions by evidence leader and Zondo on Brian. He never met Essa and I wouldn't worry about what is said about me in evidence. the commission must still test the evidence and make recommendations. All said at this commission are accusations until proven otherwise. These monks they want Brian to answer otherwise. he is incredible. We react differently to certain situations. Their Brian Reaction its like someone comes to you on your mother funeral and ask you why you not crying, you suppose to cry to show that you've lost someone you love. We react differently to situations. nonsense
Mr Zondo is not fair to Mr Molefe about the conversation of Bester and Mr Issa regarding his Eskom promotion. Suppose a person talks about his promotion to become Chief Justice in a shebeen and it happens, does he have to worry. The judge is illogical.
Eish! The crooks really boggles my mind!Why doesn't Brian just confess and get it over and done with. If he wasn't guilty of anything he wouldn't be sitting there in that chair and in court in the first place.
Am worried about you, if you think he is smart. The evidence is clear now that this man is implicating himself deeper and deeper. He is failing the cross examination
After Bester the Commission should have pushed to get Essa to come testify and avoid having to drag this meeting narrative without first getting evidence for people who were at the meeting. These evidence leaders have made conclusions without Essa's side of the story. Not we going down the rabbit whole.
We don't wanna hear any other thing any more. All we want is LAND EXPROPRIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION that's all. LAND is the only thing that will unite all black people. We have been very patient.
This DJ is too soft on this liar. He already admitted to go to the Guptas now he's referring to the shebeen. Judge just be honest with him and tell him he must stop lying.
Mr Molefe has been trapped and is trying his best to come off it. He must come clean and plead for leniency or else he is going inside for a long time.
Some people seem to think nothing wrong happened at all these SOE's. Are they saying no money was stolen by the Guptas or that they had no help in steeling it?
True and he's smartly handling them. They ask one and very same question repeatedly in different ways hoping that he will change his unswer. He is right after all they have assigned guilt to him and all other accused.
@@mashambadavhana891 There was a time in this country when you looked guilty by reason of your skin color Davhana, does that mean those who arrested us and persecuted us because of our looks were justified. Your line of argument is faulty, it is based on your self assigned ability to read a human body (Psycho analyze people). I would have you know that if such a methodology was used to enforce justice, many if not all of us would be imprisoned. Your argument is a nonsequitur.
Molefe is truly annoying with his disdainful and nonchalant attitude, making this to be a big joke, when he fully knows how these hundreds of millions were stolen. He was fully in on it and he knows it! Feigned ignorance😢
Adv Myburg in future when you had witness like Mr Molefe please direct him not to talk while you busy asking. You gave him a chance but never gave you a fair chance to ask
@@thabisodavid9499 typically miss the point entirely, Zondo is a honorable gentleman those being investigated are corrupt and a disgrace to South Africa
@@brucethackwell6686 Whose point is being missed Bruce? What do you base your claims that Zondo is honorable and Mr Molefe is not? Where is the proof of His honor and Mr Molefe dishonor? That's exactly the reason why this commission is a sham and Zondo knows about it. The Guptas are indeed corrupt and may have corrupted a lot of our black jewels, but this commission is a cover up for the real state capture. How much is eskom total expenditure and all the parastatals annually? How much of that went to the Guptas and how much of that went to the stellebosch mafia and their cronies? Why is the media saying nothing about that? What about the fact for the past 80 years only 5 white families have been recipients of SAA fuel tender? Indeed the Guptas are a disgrace to our country and any body that can be proven to have known about their corruption and facilitated it should face the might of the law. But Guptas only stole the eggs but the goose was not stolen by them, so who stole it? Why is Zondo focusing on the Guptas only for such a long time? Our state is indeed captured, by the Oppenheimers, the Ruperts, the Marlin family etc. Zondo is just a fuss and he needs to learn that he is not a standard by which all humanity should be measured against. His bias is pretty clear here.
molefe not having any concern in regard to other witness testimony is simply because he know all about this web of information, he is a gupta associate afterall
Precisely what are charges against Molefe, he is bombarded with questions, when answering, he is further pressed and assumptions are drawn albeit he is here to answer the questions. He is charged with further questions and opinions on the third party using his name. I rest my case
@45 min: Brian should have told zondo that they're here at commission because of newspaper articles. Thuli believed the words of journalists and so does zondo.. maybe they should come give testimonies.
Bottom line: Excerpts of this vid must be payed to caders before their appointment - at least whilst the ANC is still in charge - because the ANC will be gone by 2029;
While,by your own confession Mr mulefe this is the family with which you wanted to do banking business with, and has admitted knowledge of these Guptas and frequenting their home, your appointment to eskom is not a small thing not to have surface in your discussions with these guy's.
Molefe is a pathological liar. You have to dig hard to get the truth from his mouth. He can't estimate number of times that he interacted with AJ Guptas on the phone....
Zondo is just making mockery of the judiciary now every gossip must be investigated according to a retired judge mr zondo this is a shame to judiciary waste part is that they're are people who were sentenced based on this mentality of judges that based their judgements on gossips ngigezizandla ngo bab zondo
Listening to Brian Molefe speak here is very thought provoking...The approach of questioning can take the discussion in any direction and its interesting
The judge is patient and fair with Molefe.
9:30
I love the judge. His voice alone is like an Elder speaking to you and you immediately listen - he's got that power
Zondo’s reasoning on one having to investigate every time someone talks about you, is utter nonsense
Mr Molefe, this is not going to end well for you.
True, he is digging himself deeper and evidence is showing he is lying because he is being told someone under oath said he knew about his appointment before he was appointed. He says it's a rumour that can't be a rumour someone speaking under oath
@@SOUTHAFRICATODAYONLINE
Did you see that your statement has an inherent assumption that People who speak under oath do not lie, but yet you do not afford Molefe the same courtesy. Your assertions have to be false to be true!
I just shake my head
Brian Molephe is so disrespectful and arrogant
The Chairperson's logic is based on a one sided evidence of a meeting whether the other attendee has not given evidence. This point is being prematurely taken too far.
Mr myburg is irritated and annoyed by this guy,and I feel for him cz I am as well...he is plain corrupt
I spent almost 20 minutes listening to the ridiculous questions by evidence leader and Zondo on Brian. He never met Essa and I wouldn't worry about what is said about me in evidence. the commission must still test the evidence and make recommendations. All said at this commission are accusations until proven otherwise. These monks they want Brian to answer otherwise. he is incredible. We react differently to certain situations. Their Brian Reaction its like someone comes to you on your mother funeral and ask you why you not crying, you suppose to cry to show that you've lost someone you love. We react differently to situations. nonsense
Watsapp
This is a joke to me, until I see someone wearing orange overalls in jail
Z
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The Guptas sure have a true loyal friend in Brian Molefe.
truely some lawyers are just lawyers through paper.Molefe is smarter in logic though he is already judged
100%
He's lying through the skin of his teeth. Zondo is an intelligent man and with his years of experience know well that Molefe is lying.
We need to applaud Mr Myburgh. He is putting the clever guy into a corner now. Let's see how he is going to get out now.
Is this our chief justice really,really?
Big daddy liberty FOR PRESIDENT ❤
ON ANC ON EFF NO CORRUPTION !!!!
What a f-ed up stupid you are....do you know your countrys history ????
Mr Zondo is not fair to Mr Molefe about the conversation of Bester and Mr Issa regarding his Eskom promotion. Suppose a person talks about his promotion to become Chief Justice in a shebeen and it happens, does he have to worry. The judge is illogical.
Why was Mr Issa/Essa never called to come and testify?
Please send these criminals to Prison
Smooth Criminal
Long live Zondo, I'm glad he's not intimidated by the so called RET formations and Carl niehawas
Eish! The crooks really boggles my mind!Why doesn't Brian just confess and get it over and done with. If he wasn't guilty of anything he wouldn't be sitting there in that chair and in court in the first place.
Remind him of the serious nature of why he is in that chair
Only orange uniform will solve this problem, jail
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Brian molefe is street smart 😂
He is dribbling this people.
If he was so smart why doesn't he answer the question. I can't believe that you believe this liar after they stole our Country blind
Am worried about you, if you think he is smart. The evidence is clear now that this man is implicating himself deeper and deeper. He is failing the cross examination
@@sharonvanas8141 calm down, who said I believe him.
@@SOUTHAFRICATODAYONLINE 🙄
Too much 😂🤣
After Bester the Commission should have pushed to get Essa to come testify and avoid having to drag this meeting narrative without first getting evidence for people who were at the meeting. These evidence leaders have made conclusions without Essa's side of the story. Not we going down the rabbit whole.
Molefe thinks Zondo is stupid like Zuma and the zuptas, well he's got it wrong, time for looting is over Brian
I am waiting for the report. The people will cry load.SIU, HAWKS BAAe ready with hand and ankles caves
Didn't we lose the best of CEOs due to bad company here?
How many years has this investigation going on?
I love this advocate's approach!
🤣😂🤣 4hours of questions based on baseless argument with no concrete evidence.
We don't wanna hear any other thing any more. All we want is LAND EXPROPRIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION that's all.
LAND is the only thing that will unite all black people. We have been very patient.
To do what with ?
Whatever white people do with it when they forcefully removed our grandparents and parents under apartheid rule.
@@brian7523 So ... you want to do what white people do ? Is that because black people never managed to do ANYTHING on their own ?
Black people have been given commercial farms by government all 5 000 are not working.
Simple
What can you say about a CEO of 18 months that robs the pension fund intended for the workers retirement.
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Molefe is playing hide and sick game, truth is at exposure , hiding with words
frequency indeed say it all, to extend of using his own car now claim was family related , my plea CR like koko he must be arrested too.
Zondo knows Jonases version by heart... 🤣🤣🤣🤣... Even names and dates 😂😂😂😂
This DJ is too soft on this liar. He already admitted to go to the Guptas now he's referring to the shebeen. Judge just be honest with him and tell him he must stop lying.
Hahahaha I'd better tell the true
Wow you’re so stupid, where does our constitution suggests that visiting people ( suspected of crime or not ) is a crime in itself?
Brain is on fire he's not entertaining gossips which the commission trying to to find gossips as evidence 🤦🏽♂️
This commission is a joke
@@andrewnyathi_SrMr Nyathi I think You the one who is a joke, a clown in a circus that You are.
Mr Molefe has been trapped and is trying his best to come off it. He must come clean and plead for leniency or else he is going inside for a long time.
They have this guy by the Walnuts😂😂
Some people seem to think nothing wrong happened at all these SOE's. Are they saying no money was stolen by the Guptas or that they had no help in steeling it?
i am not surprised by what you just said, it suit you well,
Arrest Molefe period, in fact all CEO's of SOE's must be investigated
The Chair seems to be descending into the arena & acting in a partisan manner
This council line of questioning is very problematic, it seems like Brian is already found guilty. 😏
True and he's smartly handling them. They ask one and very same question repeatedly in different ways hoping that he will change his unswer. He is right after all they have assigned guilt to him and all other accused.
True.
this commission started with 'guilty people' and to embarrass them in public; and Zondo is part of the deployee along with the evidence leaders
You're all wrong, Brian looks guilty before you can find him guilty
@@mashambadavhana891
There was a time in this country when you looked guilty by reason of your skin color Davhana, does that mean those who arrested us and persecuted us because of our looks were justified. Your line of argument is faulty, it is based on your self assigned ability to read a human body (Psycho analyze people). I would have you know that if such a methodology was used to enforce justice, many if not all of us would be imprisoned. Your argument is a nonsequitur.
Molefe is truly annoying with his disdainful and nonchalant attitude, making this to be a big joke, when he fully knows how these hundreds of millions were stolen. He was fully in on it and he knows it! Feigned ignorance😢
Molefe is an Angel 👼🏾
Qn: How do you know this guy is doing it again?
A: When you see the lips moving.
Adv Myburg in future when you had witness like Mr Molefe please direct him not to talk while you busy asking. You gave him a chance but never gave you a fair chance to ask
According to mr zondo once you gossip about me ill report you to police and ill have you investigated😂😂😂😂
Zondo is entertaining gossip, these people who implicated molefe don't have evidence to support their vision or their gossip
@@thabisodavid9499 typically miss the point entirely, Zondo is a honorable gentleman those being investigated are corrupt and a disgrace to South Africa
He’s an embarrassment not only to our judiciary but black South Africans
@@brucethackwell6686
Whose point is being missed Bruce? What do you base your claims that Zondo is honorable and Mr Molefe is not? Where is the proof of His honor and Mr Molefe dishonor? That's exactly the reason why this commission is a sham and Zondo knows about it. The Guptas are indeed corrupt and may have corrupted a lot of our black jewels, but this commission is a cover up for the real state capture.
How much is eskom total expenditure and all the parastatals annually? How much of that went to the Guptas and how much of that went to the stellebosch mafia and their cronies? Why is the media saying nothing about that? What about the fact for the past 80 years only 5 white families have been recipients of SAA fuel tender? Indeed the Guptas are a disgrace to our country and any body that can be proven to have known about their corruption and facilitated it should face the might of the law. But Guptas only stole the eggs but the goose was not stolen by them, so who stole it? Why is Zondo focusing on the Guptas only for such a long time? Our state is indeed captured, by the Oppenheimers, the Ruperts, the Marlin family etc. Zondo is just a fuss and he needs to learn that he is not a standard by which all humanity should be measured against. His bias is pretty clear here.
zondo is truly deployee to this commission
What a wast of time, this is very sad
The Guptas must be extradited and bring the billions back which they looted from the taxpayers and given long jail sentences.
What about their best friend....Shower Head Zuma ???
Brian is too much for this guys🤞🏾
Not really... 2022
The Indians were far too clever for the docta!!!
Watching this makes me wonder how Zondo ascended to the highest court in our country.
It should be Brian Molefe sitting on that chairperson sit.
ey uhlakan9iphile u molefe but ngeke alunge ku mogoeng mogoeng
Buzz Lightyear and Woody/ Brian Molefe and Guptas. Life long BFF's
Now it is Melefe the story teller
Please jail that criminal ASAP
And spare us time 🤣
molefe not having any concern in regard to other witness testimony is simply because he know all about this web of information, he is a gupta associate afterall
Molefe tried by all means to act innocent but zondo sees through him😅
Even his body language reveals who he is and more
Realm
Watsapp
Precisely what are charges against Molefe, he is bombarded with questions, when answering, he is further pressed and assumptions are drawn albeit he is here to answer the questions. He is charged with further questions and opinions on the third party using his name. I rest my case
This is the CEO, nogal.
He simply doesn't care
Watch former CIA officer how to spot a lie, then watch his testomony 😂
plz supply link
Why and how does the Chairperson know what Essa would have known?
@45 min: Brian should have told zondo that they're here at commission because of newspaper articles. Thuli believed the words of journalists and so does zondo.. maybe they should come give testimonies.
Bottom line: Excerpts of this vid must be payed to caders before their appointment - at least whilst the ANC is still in charge - because the ANC will be gone by 2029;
This man is lying we can see the face and his reaction
@2:05:00, 2:19:00, 2:29:00 is where I last was 3:28:00
Same whatssup group, he is lying.
Molefe for President
the man is smart man jelous down ey uyi story teller
Being smart and argumentative differs, the guy clearly is argumentative.
Mr Brian' brain is working overtime on this hearing trying too hard to out smart chair and Mr M. The harder he tries eish😳😒.
Unnatural answers????
In my mother tongue .. Molefe means a person who has insatiable appetite!
is passing the buck referring to journalist as alleged.
What is molefe s qualification?
I wonder what are u going to say on Phala Phala saga...as " big friend of Ramaphosa"🧐
While,by your own confession Mr mulefe this is the family with which you wanted to do banking business with, and has admitted knowledge of these Guptas and frequenting their home, your appointment to eskom is not a small thing not to have surface in your discussions with these guy's.
Treason crimes are best dealt with through the Nuremberg trials
So this whole circus is about a journalist submission.
This man was so bad at lying 🤥body language said it all
Brain molefe he quickly played his ace card now his dancing to the wrong music lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol this white man pressed very hard
May b knows already like others .one day he b min of finance.
So he is not worried a well u think..
I say no
molefe is not off the hoek yet his chances are very slim because of the nature of this team 's probing process.
I also care less about what people i dont know say :-D
May be he could have just questioned about this one serious rumor!
Molefe is a pathological liar. You have to dig hard to get the truth from his mouth. He can't estimate number of times that he interacted with AJ Guptas on the phone....
These state capture criminals will be at visiting the courts for a long time, they will be there like flies, then the sentencing !!!
When is this soup opera going to end
2:07:10
Zondo is truly bias.
Lol this 1 is in trouble
Zondo is just making mockery of the judiciary now every gossip must be investigated according to a retired judge mr zondo this is a shame to judiciary waste part is that they're are people who were sentenced based on this mentality of judges that based their judgements on gossips ngigezizandla ngo bab zondo
Khoroborait😀😀
Ok
2022... guptas in jail
Watching this after the 2024 elections it’s not make sure hey :(
Rabbit and fires😂😂😂. But the commission is still putting certain versions to these witnesses and they don't want to take their stories.
Aaahh, but this judge Zondo
Primary school kids would not be satisfied with Zondo... Seriously
@@danielsibonelo2809 kazi uthini wena kleva
Zondo like stories n hearsay....common....lol
Opp