MAGA extremists self-radicalize as irony slips away from 'owning the libs'
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- As Trump-era conservatives grow up immersed in ironic, sarcastic, "own the libs" stunt political positions designed to upset people on the left, the line between performance and reality is beginning to blur. McKay Coppins, staff writer for The Atlantic, talks with Alex Wagner about how overtly Nazi messaging ended up in a Donald Trump social media post and how modern meme conservatives are radicalizing themselves on their way to "owning the libs."
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#MAGA #Trump #conservatives
Take them seriously and literally. Ignoring their fascist and authoritarian rhetoric is living in an alternate reality. Believe them when they say Reich!
They can't because they have too much Privalege 😴😴😴😴😴
Who is they?
@@kenc7120 You and yours.
@@kenc7120 You kenc. Even if you might be Russian troll account or a MAGA supporter ... it's you.
Vote Blue!! Trump has NO plan other than to be a dictator!
It is always someone else's fault with Trump.
Yeah he was just there… and he fell into Stormy Daniels 😂😂😂😂
Couldn’t possibly be the staff’s fault: didn’t he hire the best people?
I bet that zoom only works on liberal cameras...storming the Daniel's lol.
Do you think it was appropriate for Joe Biden to shower with his teenage daughter? In her diary, she spoke of showering late at night only after her father had gone to sleep so he wouldn't join her -- Pg. 11.
@@ginjjiigok364 In their defence, Trump feeds them material to blame him for 24/7.
I don't buy the "it wasn't vetted" excuse for one second.
But you believe mikey cohen 🤣
@@kenc7120Cohen did exactly what all Trump’s top people do- he lied for him. Just like Weisselberg who is in prison for doing the same thing. Trump calls that loyalty.
I actually believe they are that incompetent to not see it. But why doubt they would support a regime like that? They have shown it more obvious on numerous accounts.
Couldn’t possibly be the staff’s fault: didn’t he hire the best people?
Definitely. Everybody knows they were supposed to blame it on the wife, like justices Alito and Clarence Thomas did.
Trump, best investment Vladimir Putin ever made!
Best pee tape Vlad ever made ;)
@@peterpain6625where is this so-called pee tape?
In Der Furor's rectum?@@afridgetoofar1818
trump makeup color is called putin pee orange.
@@afridgetoofar1818 Not sure about that. BUT we do know Ashley Biden WAS molested starting at 11 years old by her Father, admitted with a signed court document by the Ashley herself. But watch, Me Too will be ignored with this one.
He is not running only for revenge he is running with all his might to avoid accountability.
Being POTUS is the only thing that will keep him out of prison
We have one guy running to save his lifestyle, and another guy running to save the Republic.
I just hope Joe can carry it through. The weight of history is a heavy burden to bear.
@@robertnelson4460 The weight of history may be a heavy burden to bear, but if we let him win we will all bear that weight. Some of us will be crushed under it before its over.
@@rpsmith2990Nonsense.
@@annalieff-saxby568 Congratulations! You completely missed the point!
The Unified Reich Party. In truth it was already beyond obvious who they really are.
The fact you think something like that could happen in America….. 😂
@@afridgetoofar1818 The fact that you think it can't happen here
@@afridgetoofar1818 Freedom Fries anyone? "Remember our war hysteria, when we called sauerkraut ‘Liberty cabbage’ and somebody actually proposed calling German measles ‘Liberty measles’?"
Sinclair Lewis, It Can't Happen Here
@@afridgetoofar1818Why, America’s the only free nation on earth. Besides! Country’s too big for a revolution. No, no! Couldn’t happen here!
Sinclair Lewis, It Can't Happen Here
@afridgetoofar1818 The Senator was vulgar, almost illiterate, a public liar easily detected, and in his "ideas" almost idiotic, while his celebrated piety was that of a traveling salesman for church furniture, and his yet more celebrated humor the sly cynicism of a country store.
Certainly there was nothing exhilarating in the actual words of his speeches, nor anything convincing in his philosophy. His political platforms were only wings of a windmill.
Sinclair Lewis, It Can't Happen Here
Stephen Miller at work.
Such an evil man
Absolutely.
🎯
And the irony is that His Homeliness, Herr Miller, the wanna be fascist ghoul himself, is Jewish…
He's a political creep
I'm a Democrat if Rtump was The Democrat candidate I would vote Republican.
Democrats would never vote for a candidate like Trump. Never, ever.
yup
If (D)emonic Joesph Stalin was a republican I would vote for a 3rd party
He temporarily went Democrat and poked around for support. Nobody on that side wanted to support him.
You dont even know the dif between the 2 parties.
Funny part is most you clowns are actually Conservative but to Dum and indoctrinated to know it.
I have a friend who used to laugh and giggle about his alternate life as an online troll. After a while, when he realized that he was not only trolling liberals, but rallying people crazier than his online persona, he stopped doing it. Multiply that immature attitude by thousands, and we get the insanity we see now.
I don’t think I’d want a friend like that.
It’s true, it’s gross
That is why all the people telling us we have to talk to the other side in an empathetic way are naive.. For every one real person who wants to engage, there are ten paid trolls who are paid to just hammer home propagandic soeech. Braver Angels is real and seems to vet their members, but those people are already too reasonable to buy into the MAGA hype to begin with.
Multiply by 50 Million
@@scottwhallin2461 then you have a “digital army” “trust the scam!”
"Be careful what you pretend to be." -Kurt Vonnegut
"Make America Germany Again,around 1938"
Do you think it was appropriate for Joe Biden to shower with his teenage daughter? In her diary, she spoke of showering late at night only after her father had gone to sleep so he wouldn't join her -- Pg. 11.
Joe and the Democrats are trying. They want all opposition in jail.
Ha ha!
Colbert 😊
Liberals would LOVE that!
It's only a "mistake" AFTER they are called out, never before
That's why it's clearly never a mistake, but damage control...
Trump took the term Unified Reich straight out of Mein Kampf.
"bad staffers" from stable genius that only hires the best 🤷
Showing their true colors is all this is.
YES...RED WHITE AND BLUE TRUMP 2024
This headline comes from a 1917 WWI news article, some 20 years before WWII. Trump never said it.
@@erikamonterroso7743 You HIDE behind those colors and the flag and NEVER defend it. TRAITORS. We all should have screamed in that cowards face in 2015: "You can't get captured UNLESS you are actively engaged in combat you bone spurs bunker PAB!"
@@linuxpatriot200Does it hurt when you think and breathe at the same time, traitor? Quit the Cult, traitor.
rump makeup color is called putin pee orange.
He has to be locked away. Far away from society! 🤬🤬🤬
Do you think it was appropriate for Joe Biden to shower with his teenage daughter? In her diary, she spoke of showering late at night only after her father had gone to sleep so he wouldn't join her -- Pg. 11.
He's going to be the next president.
Donald Trump put it on social media and blame someone else.That's donald trump for you with all the lies
What has to be done to you?
For what crimes? You people are brainwashed and unhinged. Stop watching mainstream media they do nothing but lie to you.
Deplorable.
If he wins my Trans children and I will have to flee to Canada. Please vote for Biden to protect marginalized communities.
I hope we don't have to welcome you here, if we do...welcome!
💧💦🌊🌍🔵💙
Sorry. It's not trolling or owning left. It's literally what they are. There is no excuse for it. Constantly they keep showing everyone who they are. When are you going to start believing it.
Former aides that worked for SC Clarence Thomas said that he was always saying "I love to make the libs cry they are so pathetic"..not just one aide but many that used to work for him said he "trashed Democrats all the time and was very personal insulting about it"..
I believe Anita Hill
Well, he is right, they are pathetic
The irony is Biden chaired that Senate hearing, he could've gotten Uncle Clarence out there and then.
@@kenc7120 You know what's actually pathetic? Trolling every comment thread trying to start fights with complete strangers like a nutcase who has nothing else to do with his life..... Get a job.....
They should’ve listened to Anita Hill, but they chose not to, and look where we are now, and unbalanced Supreme Court, Heavily tipped in favor of Fascist right-wing ideologies.
Couldn’t possibly be the staff’s fault: didn’t he hire the best people?
Perhaps it was the covfefe boy again
Trump and his MAGA cult are unhinged!!! Vote blue!!!💙💙💙💙
The blue is the party that backef speaker Johnson and kept him in power after trump spoke up for him..... We need a party that's different
You scared? 🤣
@@kenc7120 Those who recognize the pattern of the rise of nazism and fascism have enough reasons to be scared, no? Who wants that to return really?
If you don't know what I'm talking about, I can strongly advise you to read the "M" series of books by Antonio Scurati (he's a historian), which describe the rise and fall of Benito Mussolini, and you too can get all the chills over your spine when you recognize the pattern in today's maga cult.
No, we don't like products of inbreeding.@@kenc7120
@@kenc7120yeah it is HORRIFYING
I've actually experienced these red hats first hand and their rural rage as they traumatize the community. They drive around with those big American flags waving off the back of their monster 4x4s shouting FJB and it's absolutely terrifying to experience. Vote blue as if your life depends on it. 💙💙
They're truly unhinged
they aren't terrifying
they are mouth breathing mor0ns
@@RotisserieCrematoriumbut they're stupid, have bad tempers, and are armed
@@PeterFrikadelle If this is alarming to you (and it should be), and you're not armed yet (in whatever way is feasible/comfortable for you), rectify that ASAP. Organize with people whom you trust. Spread the word. The MAGATs are.
@@scottcharney1091my sentiments exactly.
those are not ideas, they are Plans
Plans for what?
Fascism @@kenc7120
@@kenc7120 For the camps! for anyone Trump's team say are illegals.
Chaos, division, and violence,
@@kenc7120damn you really can't read the writing on the wall can you?
Gee Donnie, don't you think it's time to kick Miller off you account? We know where this crap is coming from 😡
Rtump's panic and desperation is showing bigley!
PROJECT 2025
aka
MEIN TRUMpF....
You are so right, and this is why they are fighting so hard to get him elected.
Don't worry, Trump won't get elected. We took care of the elections.
Hitler was Crazy, that's why he was Dangerous,,,Rump is about as smart as a box hammers,,, that's why he's Dangerous,,,,
Nothing goes out unless Trump approves it, *Hope Hicks... Staff mistakes my foot... This is strategic but we must understand words are very powerful and do not take them lightly.
For those who don't see the pattern of how this populism can lead to pure fascism, I can recommend reading the "M" series of books by historian Antonio Scurati. It describes the rise (and fall) of Mussolini and his fascist movement. You will get chills down your spine when you can see the clear parallel with the maga cult. Don't let this happen ever again.
Unfortunately his voters are way to stupid to actually read a book and understand it. Anyone whose educated and intelligent understands how dangerous trump is. The irony is how far the GOP will go to get a vote! The party of values? Law? Patriotism? Not any more. They are bending over to keep rednecks voting for them! Sad days in our nation. But never fear, there's millions of us left who are sane, smart and cognitive to vote for Biden. We will continue to vote for decent people!
Too bad that we are even talking about tRump.
71 Million Americans are conned by this man. At what point do American not see that he is unfit for office. We do not want a 1939 Germany.
Those who don't see the pattern aren't really the book-reading type.
As a U.S. military veteran and in the names of truth, justice and freedom, I ask you all to VOTE BLUE!
Since this is a recurring pattern, not a once or twice mistake, it tells any thinking person that this a fundamental aspect of their platform. This is acceptable or even a call to a large segment of the Republican party. This will fall to talking to the independents who can swing this election away from the authoritarian push of the trump party.
Its no coincidence hats are red
If we take their excuses at face value and it was an "error" by a staffer - what does that say about the GOP staff?
As my father liked to say, "Plenty!".
Only an immature boy who read the tweet, posted it and duck for cover, blame someone else. He is doing his " not my fault" reruns.
"chaos, division and violence" should read "chaos, division, violence, thieving and lots of golf in between".
It's really that simple. Democracy or dictatorship.
Of course he went there.
M.A.G.A = "Make America Germany Again,around 1938" . I'm a Democrat if Rtump was The Democrat candidate I would vote Republican.
The quote doesn't have "again", the word "around" is what Stephen Colbert used for the 2nd A.
It's the Democrats who are trying to put their opposition in jail.
it’s really interesting how distanced the judgement about Biden‘s campaign is when everyone has something different to say about it and they all contradict each other. Biden will talk about policies but no one is happy. Then Biden den normalises Trump which shouldn’t be normal anyway but he’s not happy. why don’t people say things that are positive about Biden? Why don’t they say great things so that the positivity extends to people voting for him? Everyone is so judgemental and negative. And if you want to save democracy, don’t you think that your lives are on the line if Biden loses? have a think about that.
Once posted the message is out, deleting it makes no difference.
This "staffer" excuse is getting old. They posted on your social media/ whichever it is/... and you give them permission to do so on your behalf. Own it!
Was this "random" account or the staffer Steven Miller?
When people show you who they are, believe them.
We put better people than trump into prisons every day.
His ship is sinking faster and deeper than the Titanic and it GLORIOUS.😎🍿
Its always 'we didnt mean to post that... unless you liked it'
That fascist post was his own personal account, not the "Trump Campaign" account. Don't tell me, the coffee person again.
Trump has lost his mind!
Trump wishes that we all have lost our minds
What mind?
cant lose what you never had
Worm ate it .
@@Richard-od7yd Poor worm, must still be hungry.
Not the "Fourth Reich". With Trump it would be the "Fart Reich"..
This is so serious. We have to get as much blue awareness out there as much we can. The Western Alliance and it's survival is at stake.
Didn’t Trump say it was okay to take out a corrupt political opponent ? Mr. Biden you have the go ahead
It’s hurting them more than helping them
Irony and using ridiculous comparisons is the ult rights drug of choice... They drive me crazy with their nonsense
The world knows about the idiocy of the MAGA!
Trump brings out the worst in people, and it's really easy to be your worst self
I certainly hope that Stephen Miller doesn't fall headfirst into a running chipper/shredder as soon as possible.
We’ve gone WAY past performative fascism. This guy needs a check up from the neck up.
"The Fascist movement is presented as a value per se, because it is understood that movement implies violence, oppression of the weak, and exhibition of one's own power. Since the goal is finally the subjugation of one's own followers, they should be distracted from this goal, and their ambition should be centered around the pleasure which the movement itself may yield, not around the ideas which it might possibly materialize." --Theodor W. Adorno (1935)
They are ridiculous, but earnest in their "beliefs"
This reporter is trivializing what is happening, snickering about the very real threat to the end of our democracy
There's no right side of wrong, just the Right being wrong.
Then put him in Jail!
This gives too much benefit of the doubt to bigots and bigotry.
you are surely righteous
What are we teaching in schools? Do they still teach History?
It doesn’t matter who posted it on his behalf.
"Stock template"??? Would it be swastika shaped?
Stock template from Steven Miller's lame desperately-trying-to-trigger-the-libs-collection maybe ;)
Thanks Alex ❤❤❤❤❤.
Oh please, don't soften this. We didn't need this to know what's happening.
Redhatters are the LCDs of humanity.
AT LEAST WE HAVE RED HATS. EVER NOTICE HOW TRUMP GETS MUCH LOVE WHEN HE DRIVES THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD? EVER SEE SO MANY PEOPLE 107K SAY USA HARMONIOUSY? EVER HEAR BIDEN SAY TO HIS SUPPORTERS THAT HE'S THERE FOR YOU? EVER HEAR ANY BIDEN SUPPORTERS CHANT WE LOVE BIDEN? SO BEFORE YOU CALL OTHER AMERICANS THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR LOOK AT THE LOWLIFE PRESIDENT AND THEIR FOLLOWERS AND SEE WHOSE TEAM IS MORE ABOUT HUMANITY. TRUMP 2024
@@erikamonterroso7743 None of that is readable.
Lowest Common Denominations. LCD
Thanks. I immediately went to "Liquid Crystal Displays".
You do know they are around you every day right?
I do not worry too much about militias they like to prance around and look ferocious. The ones who will stand and fight however are the property owners, they by and large have everything to lose.
Well, that's a very long and polite way of saying that the GOP has become just a party of trolls with the main agenda of nothing but trolling.
Vote blue against the "4th reich." That means voting for Democrats up and down the ballot. Fascism in America is NOT funny. "Just say no."
Democrats are the party of Hamas lol
@@BigOne-gn6qj That's why Biden supports Israel, huh. dumbbazz
Ya know who uses fascist rhetoric?
Fascists.
It was never really ironic, the "oh, it was just a joke" was a cover.
“Yea, I guess it’s admirable to stand up for democracy I guess idk” seriously????
If you don't allow yourself the chance to change your mind...you're in a cult
I’m not surprised at this phenomenon. Something I think many people fail to understand is that what you say and how you say it not only affects the thoughts and thinking of others, it also affects your own thoughts and thinking, over time.
Hey Alex, of all the coverage I listened to, you were the only one, who pronounced "third Reich" correctly. Thank you and greetings from Germany :)
"Fake it till you make it", but with bad ideas instead of business.
Nothing is Built
Nothing is Back
Nothing is Better
Sarcastoball South Park episode. Cartman personified in this pusillanimous yellow belly former president
I often compare Trump to "Le Petit Tourette."
"It's the staff's fault?"
But I thought trump ONLY hired the best staff?
There is a new generation of children who, whether privately or publicly, are deeply, DEEPLY ashamed of the disgustingly hypocritical behavior of their parents.
"Some random staffer made/posted that" is next door to the "I was only kidding! Don't you have a sense of humor?" and "My dog ate my homework" excuses. All are lamer than a horse with four broken legs.
3:28 - Next time, Trump will do an Alito and blame his wife.
All praise the dear leader.
Minds too clouded by vengeance to see clearly enough to not get conned.
Where Stephen Miller is concerned irony has NEVER been present.
I consider myself a moderate, but I'm a radical, hardliner, extremist moderate.
They need to be investigated!
900K Rightwing on Earth vs. 7.9 billion leftwing
These people* are telling us who they are and what they will do, if given the chance. Believe them! This isn't entertainment.
* So-called
yes. it is.
there is nO staff at ts.
they're talking about TRUMP staff, not TS staff
come on, man
We are doomed.
This is MAGA - subtle references to the Third Reich, QAnon marching music, stand back and stand by, good people on both sides then when confronted walk the statements and deeds back.
Downplaying that rhetoric as people "pretending" to be fascist or trying to get to liberals is so wrong. We cannot downplay this stuff. they mean it. it's real. I don't agree with this guy. We should be afraid. We should be aware.
The fascist playbook can also be seen at the GOPs official website and it's called Project 2025.
Um...wow...how could someone think this was " funny"? If you have a brain, you are for democracy
Harvard has a lot to answer for.
FUN FACT: With the Red Army closing in, the glass suicide capsules were passed out in the bunker...but Hitler was afraid his would only put him to sleep, and the Russians would get him. So he sat on the couch, leaned a Mauser against his temple, and pulled the trigger.
It was a Walther
No he didn’t . He escaped to Brazil
OK.....he shot himself with a Walther, THEN he escaped to Brazil.