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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Oh boy, here we go again... Computing Forever seems a little upset so let's tell him why he's wrong.
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“My right to swing my fist ends at the other man’s nose” Oliver Wendell Holmes
Nothing against OWH's simplistic quote but a swing (or a threatening flinch) is still an assault so the "right" terminates long before the end of a nose.
But the right to breathe out potentially deadly pathogens ends at your own nose, doesn't it?
Yes, that’s true, but the point of the statement is more that my right to act entirely as I please ends the moment my actions have some non-zero effect on others, as this is generally the point when we as a society conclude it is acceptable for the state to interfere with such behavior.
@@lusoverse8710 Yet, none of you hopelessly propagandized and brainwashed people had any problem whatsoever "breathing out potentially deadly pathogens" from your noses in any previous cold or flu season prior to 2020. I'll bet, with very few exceptions, none of you were wearing cloth face masks in public during flu season in previous years. It's propaganda, dude.
Republicans: All life is precious! [on abortion]
Also Republicans: Your life isn't worth me washing my hands. [on COVID]
So stupid
Pretty much 😂
Also Republicans: "You're off to Canada, Honey--and don't tell my wife."
Who thought wearing a mask would be such a hassle for everyone
Just wait for vaccines. People are already arguing that we shouldn't take them because we don't know the long term effect when "healthy people are strong enough to survive the virus; there's this friend of a woman who was sick for five weeks from Covid and survived." We know that there are quite often quite horrific lasting long term effects, sometimes deadly, from Covid for heavy cases much less awful than the one from that person's argument, like brain damage, damaged heart, etc.
Maybe stupidity is the answer to the Fermi paradox after all.
I love my mask. I ordered a three pack of my fave sports team. It's as much a fashion statement as a health measure to me. :-D
I've wished for over a decade that people would wear masks when they get sick, as is customary in some countries. I worked in a call center, and got sick around 5-10 times per year. When I started working from home, I stopped getting sick. Like, at all. At least, until I got REALLY sick for 4 days in Feb 2020 and felt like crap for 2 weeks afterwards. I wonder what that was...
@@Bacteriophagebs yes and it has shown it works our flu numbers are way down because we are wearing masks
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professor sticks been an idiot I mean when I've been t bark where's listen to stupid Google Voice Simulator Enjoy Thanks🔥🐐🚀🚨🔪🔫?.
I feel like the argument that pandemic precautions are damaging fails to take into account that a lack of precautions is even more damaging.
@Sweet Science! what makes you say that? There is nothing inherently life threatening about staying home. Essential services like (but not limited to) police, fire departments, and ambulances would still be operational.
The virus on the other hand has already proven itself to be life threatening. A quarter of a million people are dead from it in the US alone. Notice that countries that did have very strict lockdowns are already back to living mostly normal lives? The reason that doctors and public health experts suggested social distancing and staying home as much as possible is because it would save many lives. Do you think these people dedicated their lives to public health only to forget to model the effects of their solutions on the very public whose health they are trying to safeguard? You are exemplifying the Dunning-Kruger effect. You are so ignorant of the field that you think you’re an expert.
@Sweet Science! we need a second lockdown for people like you. Yes, we cannot keep the economy locked down, yes, people need social interaction. So what happend with the first lockdown is there was a deal as it where, "if you follow these basic rules, such as wear a mask, stay 2 meters apart, ect. We will lighten the lockdown" and so people like you took it as the lockdown is done, and made a second spike in cases. Oh, and for how it started? If you want to get political, it started due to pour information spreading from the chinese government. If you want to look at it logically, it originated from some other animal, the virus made its way to humans, most likely from an intermediate animal, and then im sure you know how water borne diseases spread... or maybe you dont since you seem to not even know how masks work
@Sweet Science! but cancer isn’t contagious, unlike COVID-19. The number of people with cancer won’t suddenly spike like it will with the virus. You don’t seem to have a very good grasp of public health.
@@GusCraft460 Acting like locking down the economy (stAyiNg HoMe) except for “”essential services”” presents no danger and causes no life threatening situations for the first and third world populations, is ridiculous, uninformed, and an example of the dunning-kruger effect you’re so fond of. In fact it’s probably an example of some kind of other effect since you’re exactly what you accused the other guy of being, and if I cared about looking smart to random internet people I’d probably know it and frequently use it too!
@@joziv Given economists' LONG arrogance and denial of the proved fact about Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) by climate scientists, while simultaneously economists make SO MANY BULLSHIT claims, one after the other, contradicting one another, and themselves, and are NEVER held accountable for all their WRONG predictions, given economists never DEFINE cause & effect in economics: to DEFINE what variable or human choice CAUSES another thing to happen, I don't blame people at ALL for DISMISSING any alleged "negative" economic impacts from locking down an economy.
They shit all over the experts of climatology, then anybody is free to shit all over THEIR so-called "expertise".
My wife got COVID-19, recovered, but ever since has trouble breathing. My aunt and uncle died from it. Yeah, I don't know anyone.
Just because you don't die, other things happen from contracting it. Things are still being found out about it.
I’m so sorry for your loss. People who deny the existence of COVID-19 make my blood boil.
In my country the interview of a few former COVID deniers who survived the virus showed that 2-3 months after recovery some still don't feel flavor, scent and have breathing problems.
Still don't know the very long term consequences from getting COVID.
Hopefully it's nothing, but there are plenty of viruses, including some in coronavirus family, that reassert themselves later on as another illness.
People who hate masks: oh my god I can't breathe
Weebs: I'm I ninja
@@mjelves there, I edited it, happy now
@@pandabanaan9208 he's a grammer ninja.
@@pandabanaan9208 yes. Will now delete my comment
@@Supraboyes *grammar
@@Supraboyes to be fair whenever my mother makes a grammar mistake I always laugh at it
“Most people don’t even know someone who has caught COVID...”
Hey, Dave; I work in healthcare. I have personally treated people recovering from COVID. And even I understand that what I just said is irrelevant to the point you were trying, but failed, to make.
See, Dave; anyone can play the anecdote game. It might be fun, but we’re all the dumber for it.
@@valerierodger7700 -I think he’s intellectually sloppy and intellectually “can’t be bothered to be rigorous, because who’s gonna check my work anyway.”
I don’t pretend to be intellectually endowed, but Dave comes off as a complete pseudo-intellectual. A dumb person’s smart man
Oh my brother had it when all the uk university students went back. He only had mild symptoms (loss of taste/smell) thankfully. The point being, another person who knows someone who had COVID. Dave’ argument hasn’t aged well has it...
Just peaked into CF's comment thread and, dear god, the lack of reasoning is astounding.
One person had a mild Covid case and, based on this one anecdote, feels everyone is overreacting.
Another person said it's not as bad as the flu globally, even though the flu was estimated to kill 650,000 globally in 2019 and COVID is currently over 1M (with drastic prevention measures).
🤬🤬🤬 I cant with these people.
I took a look too.
What a collection of people that I would not choose to meet if given the option!
I don't know about you, but I could not stand to listen to CF himself. Not a thoughtful person at all. As the Prof points out, he is not empathetic at all. It is all about himself, bad luck to all those who are not young and healthy. That despite a growing number of young COVID-19 survivors reporting varying degrees of long-term respiratory effects and general lassitude. This pandemic is clearly nothing like the 'flu. And I am happy to take an annual 'flu shot.
@Sweet Science! It's always died with and in general the question is could covid be considered a factor or not. If you died in a car accident and had covid most don't treat that as a cause of death. But a heart attack or pneumonia could be a result of complications from your current covid case. I'll accept that coroners and doctors know how to fill out the proper paperwork and the CDC knows the difference.
@Sweet Science! "Of just covid". You mean had no other unrelated complications and chronic disease, which still may have been made worse by covid? Omg, then by this standards noone ever died of AIDS either!
@Sweet Science! I looked up the numbers for Ireland. I don't know what steps your gov took, but I'm in the US. I've watched my state's cases skyrocket and I've talked to nurses and doctors who've worked in the overrun hospitals. It's bad here. People aren't usually dying of "just covid". It's almost always complications due to covid, or a clot caused by covid, or some other disease due to a weakened immune system after fighting covid. Covid strains the body and in the elderly this is particularly harmful as it doesn't take much to throw something else in their bodies out of sorts.
I'm glad that you guys have a good test and low cases. But please consider that your country's total cases are equivalent to one of our country's middle of the road states. Our experiences is from the deep trenches. We have over 10M cases as a country with a 1-2% death rate and our government is trending towards herd immunity. We have concerns not just about covid related deaths but deaths due to lack of hospital access for other patients.
The stuff your saying sounds like what many Americans were saying back in April. Go look at our deaths and cases back then.
@Sweet Science! Just so we're clear, you are aware that herd immunity through exposure will result in more deaths, right? Like around 1-4% of all infected dead would be the most likely. That's a lot of dead people to achieve that type of herd immunity. Why not wait for the vaccine? Or you could also limit long contact enough to prevent the disease could die out much like ebola.
I have asthma, have since i was 6 months. Wearing a mask makes it hard for me to breathe, often causing me to cough(allergies as well, it hasnt been a fun pandemic for me going outside). But I gladly wear a mask, because thats what responsible citizens do.
It's a little more if your not technical but the over the counter hepa filter they sell can be incorporated into a mask.
CF is the human equivalent of whenever you eat a cookie thinking it's chocolate chip when it's actually rasins
God I hate that, and CF
So he's just gross?
@@rembrandt972ify pretty much
But I like raisins :(
@@rembrandt972ify Well, yeah, and also his username is misleading, Makes you think you're watching a technology channel, when in reality you're watching the circus
i liked your analogy with the fireworks because it really amplifies exactly how stupid it is to not recognize (or just ignore) the risk to others
It's funny because a lot of people had similar complaints about sear belts, but they got over them. And seat belts literally only help the person wearing them.
here in brazil we have a saying for that, 'farinha pouca, meu pirão primeiro'
basically," i first think of myself and y'all can fuck each other as long as it doesn't involve me"
A few years back there was an idiot continually setting off fireworks in his garden - which just happened to be right below the landing approach path for Edinburgh airport.
He thought he had every right to do that. He very quickly learned differently - from inside a prison cell.
@O Programador Astuto A ideia da máscara nunca foi impedir as partículas de entrarem, e sim dificultar a saída delas. Uma pessoa com covid que expira usando máscara vai expulsar muito menos partículas que podem contagiar outras pessoas. É por isso que todo mundo deveria usar máscara. Você não sabe se está com o vírus até ser tarde demais, e se você saiu por ai sem máscara é muito maior a chance de contaminar alguém, mesmo que essa pessoa contaminada esteja de máscara. O fato da máscara impedir um pouco a entrada de partículas é um benefício negligente do uso dela, e não é o principal motivador pro uso dela.
@O Programador Astuto Eu provavelmente discordo com quase tudo que você falou, exceto a parte das grandes grandes empresas estarem usando a pandemia para ter lucro (o que ninguém argumentou o contrário ou pediu provas) e não pretendo rebater porque francamente estou com preguiça. Mas mesmo se você estivesse certo sobre tudo isso, sobre ser antiético, sobre condicionar pessoas ao medo, sobre o governo se aproveitar disso para ser tirânico, o que isso tem a ver com o fato que eu expliquei que máscaras diminuem o risco de contágio? Você falar que é "só" um pano na cara é uma maneira ruim de desviar do que eu falei. Se você assoprar na sua mão sem nada no meio do caminho e fazer isso de novo com uma máscara é obvio o resultado. Se você acha tirânico fazer pessoas usarem máscara beleza, sua opinião. Mas a eficiência do uso das máscaras é comprovado cientificamente com diversos estudos corroborando essa ideia.
Quanto ao fato de você perder o emprego, eu sinto muito por isso. Eu também estou cheio de problemas devido a quarentena. Eu tive uma semana de aula na faculdade e o virus começou a se espalhar no Brasil fazendo a faculdade ter que fechar e dar aulas a distancia, o que está sendo horrível. Além disso vários conhecidos meus pegaram e muitos chegaram a falecer.
Trying to argue that Covid-19 isn't bad because "most people don't know anyone who has it" is incredibly offensive to those who have lost loved ones to it. 😒
Computing Forever: The vast vast majority of people don't know anyone that has it, let alone anybody who's died from it.
Me (whose entire family has it and whose friend already died from it): Wow, I didn't think anyone credibility could drop below this point and yet, here we are.
His argument is literally that the restrictions to limit Covid spread are working therefore Covid isn’t dangerous 😂😂😂😂
I know, what an idiot.
Apparently the lockdowns aren't working, because countries are locking up again.
@@jingles123456789ify or is it the other way? Countries are locking up because it works and we had an increasing number of cases when lockdown was relaxed?
@@jingles123456789ify That's like saying the fire services don't work because countries keep using them.
@@chefchaudard3580 It also doesn't help that BLM riots were allowed to happen during lockdowns.
Despite his name, he can't really compute much.
Ge gave up his CPU the moment he tried recreating the Amazing Randys trick of eating an entire pill bottle without falling over dead. Dave's mistake was that he didn't realize his pills weren't Sugar pills. 😉
Edit: Typo.
If your computational power is 0, it takes an infinite amount of time to compute anything. Hence "Computing Forever".
"There is a cost-benefit - " Ok im not even going to listen further. These people simply do not value human life.
No, they really don't
I don't know what he's talking about but I presume it's about work/school and covid. If so... there's a road infront of you. You can take precautions like looking both ways (Wearing a mask) or just not cross (Quarantine). If you look both ways (Wear a mask) it's socially acceptable and normal but a minor inconvenience. If you don't cross (Isolate) you get nothing done. But at least you're ensuring you don't get run over (Get COVID)... right?
"We can't kill the economy to save human lives!"
Uh. Yeah, we can. Economies can be restarted, corpses can't. Yet. _It's still 2020 for a few weeks._
"We have to reopen!"
Okay, Cletus McRatlickers of the world. We reopen. Your favorite business spreads the virus. We have to shut down again, for longer. What did we accomplish, except force closing for even longer?
The cost-benefit thing is a real consideration that has to be made. The rat-lickers are right about that. What they're wrong about is that they think *it favors their side.*
@@JohnsonTheSecond The short of it is that the idiots think if you reopen stores everything will just go back to normal because they can just ignore exponential death and the collapse of society as every fragile system they're too ignorant to understand stretches to the breaking point until corpses pile up in the streets because all the people burying corpses died too because all the doctors preventing the increase in corpses died first.
The way they "think" is something like this: "It's winter. I'm cold. I'll set fire to my house for warmth. PROBLEM SOLVED FOREVER!"
@@EdwardHowton no they way they think is it's winter, I'm cold, but I don't want to pay for heating so I'll see what happens: Will I freeze to death or will my walls insulation save me?
I've suffered from mild depression during this lockdown, but racist conspiracy theories are the last sort of people I want to speak on my behalf
Oh man, this is going to be a mess 😆
"Here in Ireland we have tight restrictions and deaths are low!" THAT'S THE POINT!
As an Irishman I feel the need to apologise for him. We aren't all this stupid.
Like almost any group, the idiots are the minority but they're loud and demand attention whereas the normal people are just minding their own business.
While here in the UK our so-called “government” has behaved concerning the pandemic like a bunch of mini-Trumps, changing policy on the hoof and seemingly at random. Including allowing the Prime Minister’s father and the PM’s senior advisor to break the lock-down laws without any penalties at all being applied to either of them.
I lost family this year to covid. People like him are evil, truly evil.
Computing forever is the human equivalent of the food featured in kitchen nightmares, if you like it, there's something wrong with you
CF: *[music sting]* That's how I've always made my videos, *[music sting, transition to video goop being made, music sting]* and my subscribers seem to like it, *[transition to goopy stuff being consumed by viewers]* so what the hell does this guy know anyways
*[ALL THE MUSIC STINGS]*
You win the internet
Honestly, I am losing my respect for Computing Forever, I thought he was a very smart individual, but now I'm not so sure.
I will never understand why following simple rules such as wearing masks and social distant is so difficult, I never will.
ah yes, the old 'well it doesn't affect ME directly, therefore its a hoax/overblown/conspiracy to target me!'
Well, consider, if you would, that even if someone claimed there would be 0 deaths from Corona, it's still closer than the actual predictions.
In the next video: “Responding to Professor Stick, responding to Computing Forever, responding to Richard Dawkins.”
I don’t know if CF still has much of an audience who would be interested in the good professor’s videos who don’t already know about them.
It could be interesting though.
I don't know anyone who has died of starvation, so it's not a major problem.
"Most people do even know anyone that even got Covid"
I'm actually pretty glad you don't if you fall into that category. Unfortunately, for my family... Several of my family members got so sick they were hospitalized, and one is on the verge of death. I'm heart broken over this so when people say "iTs JuSt ThE fLu" I just want to scream... Peoples lack of compassion for others is disgusting.
Try shooting at them, and then telling them that it's your own hearing you're damaging by not wearing ear protection, so it's your choice, not theirs.
Dave Cullen is a wingey, sad little man. It breaks my heart that he has such a large platform.
I will say right off the bat, my grandad was diagnosed with cancer before the pandemic started, and started treatment a few weeks before aswell. The majority of his treatments where during the pandemic. He was in no way being denyed cancer treatment.
Just like the geniuses who don't know why they shouldn't go camping and light a campfire during a drought in California hills. 🍺
I was going to appeal to a deity for help against idiots like CF, then I remembered this channel's views on religion and realised that it would be inappropriate. Then I remembered that I'm an atheist in secret from my parents. Then I remembered that my parents might go through my phone and see this comment. Then I decided that I didn't care.
I am also a Secret Athiest and I have devout muslim parents. I feel your pain
That sounds crap, though I think you should feel free to ask for the help of any fictional characters you want. Especially against someone as dickish as CF... he is showing enough paranoia that if you get creative he may worry about them actually coming after him.
I have several family members who are at extreme risk to the virus, so they haven't been able to leave their houses
And this guy is complaining about masks
If any of my family members die from COVID I don't know what I would do
He mostly talks about social distancing and the effect it has on people physiologically because there is a valid impact, in fact many reports are showcasing noticeable increases in suicide already a 2nd leading cause of death in teens and places in the top 10 over all deaths yearly. In upstate Ny hard social distancing is real, times this by 200m people with similar situations and you'll have a generation of mental heath problems exaggerated by the current conditions some already having issues.
Stop trying to make him understand SCIENCE!!!!!
All Scientists: "Do basic sanitation."
Dave: "I don't think enough testing as been done to warrant these restrictions."
What a clown.
I’m so sick of right wing grifters who developed a sudden interest in mental health as so as it became a wedge to undermine public health efforts, none of them seem to support greater accessibility to mental health services or dealing with the many economic or social realities that made people more vulnerable to mental health issues. In fact most of them have a history of opposing such measures and haven’t had a road to Damascus moment.
Catholic theocrats like him are campaigning in Ireland to grant an exemption to regulations restricting public gatherings for religious ceremonies. Can we please have one plague the Church of Rome doesn’t make worse.
In the US a lot of the conspiracy theories, denials and nonsense come from the fundie Protestants. Religious extremism being the problem rather than any specific religion or denomination.
the father of one of my friends had covid, luckily he lived
Glad he pulled through!
My father might actually have it because of his work, he has been miserable for the last couple of days because of it
Like most people who gets Covid?
Luckily...considering how low the fatality rate is, especially as we continue to understand how to treat the disease, lucky that he wasn't in the 2.25% of people who have actually died in the US if you use the official numbers.
@@RDeathmark we are British and his father was in the high risk category due to his age and medical conditions, so yes luckily
I personally like Dawkins' snarkiness. He doesn't spare anyone's feelings when it's not needed. And has every right to be arrogant, he's very knowledgeable and isn't afraid to admit when he's wrong, which he rarely is. I hold him in high regard, I do not worship him or fawn over him. I just respect the man for what he has written and his contributions to Biology and Atheism. The same way I respected James Randi or Christopher Hitchins. Or other great communicators.
Yeah, he's cool for that for sure.
Mitigation measures wouldn't be as restrictive if people had followed the simpler guidelines in the first place. We are in a lockdown because too many people failed to socially distance, restrict themselves to support bubbles, restrict their movements to only essential travel, and failed to wear cloth masks.
And CF is quoting the false belief that wearing a cloth mask has significant long term negative consequences. I've seen people test their VO2 levels over hours while wearing a cloth mask, and the effect is negligible. It doesn't support the idea that wearing a cloth mask leads to hypoxia.
TLDR: citation needed.
8:50 this genuinely made me so fucking upset. My great-aunt
, which everyone in my family adored, got the virus and fought against it for months until she died. My girlfriend's grandmother and uncle died from it as well. Both from her mother's part of the family and it really fucked up their emotions. This is such an ignorant and disgusting argument. Any respect I had for this guy just evaporated honestly
I'm so very sorry that they passed away may they rest in peace
"That there were more deaths in the first 5 months of 2018 then 2020. " this seems like a valid argument for staying home to prevent deaths of all kinds.
Except the deaths that happen in the home. Note light sarcasm.
Absolutely. And the same phenomenon can be seen in other countries which managed the virus well. Fewer deaths from the flu, pneumonia, legionella, childhood measles, viral meningitis, traffic accidents, workplace injuries etc in Australia and New Zealand mean they have fewer excess deaths overall in 2020 than in the previous 5 years; even including covid-related deaths.
Computing forever is a dangerous whack job. This dude understands so little about medicine and physiology that it's pathetic. He should be jailed for the made up shit he keeps spreading.
I haven’t listened to CF since he talked absolute nonsense about Brexit. Good to see he’s grown in 4 years 🙄 Smug as hell with a grossly inflated sense of his own intelligence, the perfect cocktail for an alt right youtuber.
Even if you couldn't wear a mask because you had breathing problems, you could always wear a visor so that you at least have some sort of barrier. However, if you do have a breathing problem, you probably shouldn't go out when there's a highly infectious respiratory virus
I mean, there really isn't a group who can't wear a mask. Karen's who say they have can't breathe with a mask? They're not being genuine. Asthma? A mask would reduce the chance of the particulates that can trigger an asthma attack. A half face respirator would usually remove the particulates all together. It's extraordinarily rare for people to not be physically able to wear a mask.
-Has strict restrictions
-Low death rate
IMAGINE MY SHOCK!
This is not hard! With rights come responsibilities, particularly the responsibility to exercise your rights judiciously, which includes a consideration of how your exercise of your rights impacts others.
Are these responsibilities in the US Constitution? No! The Founders, being mature, thoughtful adults, didn’t feel the need to point out something so basic. Anyone who doesn’t understand that no right is absolute should not be exercising those rights without adult supervision.
top tip for those worried about the effects of wearing masks - place a small pot plant in your mask to immediately take in all the CO2 breathed out. Not only will the plant respire, producing more oxygen for you to inhale at your leisure, it makes a fun fashion statement, and even smells nice.
a nice little blooming cactus 🌵🥰
^^^ Only try this is states that have legalized marijuana and don't do it while crossing the boarder.
Don't know who this is laughing at
@@JohnsonTheSecond
it's an absurdist comment satirising the exaggerated, and in my opinion, completely fake, 'concern' shown by people like Computing Forever when they claim that wearing a mask is the slightest bit harmful and so more dangerous than leaving yourself exposed to covid and in the process potentially exposing others to covid.
Because if they really thought mask wearing was dangerous, they would go to extremes to make it safe - because otherwise they're just admitting that they don't believe actual science about hte dangers of covid...which I realise they openly deny the dangers, but in which case - why do they harp on about masks being harmful. No, you're right - I shouldn't expect logic and consistency from them.
"Computing Forever"?
More like "Cringing Forever".
What's with this "dead in the streets" rhetoric? Who thinks that happens in 1st world countries?
"Oh, no! I've tested positive! Better stand on the sidewalk instead of going home or to a hospital."
That doesn’t even happen in Africa, in fact quick response by public health services and good adherence to these policies such as isolation and decontamination quickly curtailed Ebola. The various governments and peoples of Africa rely heavily on public health measures and are used to such programs due to AIDS, Malaria, Ebola etc. And have done suppressing well against COVID-19.
The important thing to remember is that when people quote the study stating that mask don't work, they either don't read the full study or they ignore the end of it. Both of which are bad journalism. If they read the full thing they would see that the part being quoted is in lab numbers, not case numbers. And if you read the full study you would see that masks really do work.
I don't know if i made much sense, but please look it up. But if you don't want to or don't have the time, Ann Readon from how to cook that on here yt shows the lab numbers translated into case numbers in a video about debunking covid 19 related hacks. She explains it very well.
Good points. He constructed an argument Dawkins didn't make.
Well done on this
Maybe computing forever should stick to computers. Just a thought.
He never started with computers, it seems, or that was what I gathered when I found his channel.
CF's video got recommended to I when someone on Discord linked a femnazi "what is masculinity" video that was a bloke pretending to do a multi-movie review whilst pushing a "men whom speak against misandrous slavery are all bad, because flawed logic and movie tropes" narative.
I have a setup that literally changes my online identity to a fresh slate (Combo of CPUID spoofing, browser spoofing, MAC spoofing, public facing ISP hotspots: BT-Wifi customer hotspots, Shared hotspot logins, etc), thus I wasn't identifiable.
UA-cam AI decided that Computing forever's video on irish nationalism is a great "suggested next video" for the weirdo misandrist bloke's video.
Literally, saw two fringe videos in one "clean slate session".
The reason the vid got posted on Discord was to do with the subject of misrepresentation and how it can harm the image of an idea:
In that case it was how fem-extremists give a bad name to what was the common idea about feminism being to do with equality and independence and how instead the misrepresentation essentially turns the good ideas into hate-speech ._.
@@dedr4m He did back in the late 2000's IIRC where he uploaded mostly apple tech videos.
People with conditions that require no mask are pretty sick and those people should not go out.
Famous last words of a 12 year old rebel without a cause objecting to the wrong part of the statement: "I can argue whatever I want!" Sounds like it's time to ground him from his iPod touch.
That belongs in the Hall of Fame of completely self-unaware stupid statements, right up there with "Your mom goes to college" and "Yeah. But I'm taller!!!"
Computing forever should be ashamed he's exploiting a epademic and saying it's a hoax he should be banned from UA-cam or Twitter by trying to say oh we should have Coventry directions is a stupid thing to say when people have lost loved ones and family and friends to this virus I want he him to see and meet the people who lost loved ones I want him to see he was sorry and he was wrong about everything else he put on his channel
He had a load of videos pulled from UA-cam for spreading Covid misinformation. He was one of big signal boosters for plandemic in Ireland. Come on Google, we helped you dodge so much tax, help us out and force Dave onto bitshoot with the rest of the alt right chuds.
I am sure that people dying affects businesses as employees and costumers. If there are no workers and costumers, how do you sustain business?
In England, they call guys like Computing Forever "bloody minded idiots".
I have a serve breathing condition. I have trouble breathing when under exertion. Eg running/walking up hill. I take medication twice a day to keep my airway open properly. I wear a mask with minimal issues. The biggest one is seeing people wearing them in correctly or not all
How can he argue with Dawkins!? He is literally one of the smartest people in the world.
Because he is an idiot and idiots think they are smart.
i think you're right in this case but i don't recommend that you trust anybody to such a degree that you believe nothing they could do would be worthy of criticism
@@frogfan449 alright. Smartest in his field.
@@atheistmando4976 there are a lot of very smart people in his field. Unfortunately most aren’t good at communicating with the public. Dawkins is definitely still one of the best actual academics at public communication of biological &/or related sciences.
@@frogfan449 Dawkins is definitely worthy of criticism on some of his points but CF is just a complete moron
At this point in time, when i hear someone harping about "personal liberties", all i hear is : "Rah, rah, rah! But muh convenience!" They are not suffocating in their own carbon dioxide - they simply suffer from a severe lack of common sense, imagination and empathy.
No, they have a lot of imagination. They need to have it so they can make this BS up.
They are only suffocating in their bullshit
Its always interesting when cartoon avatars fight, classic old school UA-cam
CF: The vast majority of people don't know anyone who had it.
Me (Finding out earlier this week my mother tested positive for covid): *Extreme rage*
After covid, let's make wearing a mask when you have a simple illness and need to go into the public space a norm.
It'd be much more beneficial
By the way common flu is almost non-existent in Australia this year ‼️
I thought I hated anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers until these anti-masks crowds came along.
CF uses infantile slippery slope arguments to further drama queen concerns. Complete and utter idiocy. Nicely stuck, Professor Stick.
8:38 yes it’s just like in plague inc when you max out transmission until everyone has it, then mutate for death
Didn’t they have a fake news update?
I was travelling to go see my love in September. Yes I left the Atlantic bubble. I wore a mask from 2 pm the day before my flight till arriving at his brothers 28 hours later. After arriving I didn't leave the bedroom we were in on the second floor without wearing a mask. Then again till we arrived at my love's house so that ended up being the better part of 40 hours wearing a mask. By the logic of the mask bad because breathing in your own co2 or whatever they say I should have been dead and on the flight home I once again wore a mask for about 28 hours straight. So once again I should be dead. Coming home My flight number was AC690 and the flight from the day before and the one a few days later all had cases of covid from people coming back from working in Alberta AKA Canada's Texas. Coming home I had to sign legal documents saying I would quarantine for 14 days. The cops came by to make sure I was. That's how serious we are taking it here. Our numbers are very low because of it.
I'd be more concerned what I breath in without a mask, rather than in the mask. It's like we got such a great air in the cities.
@@smashexentertainment676 exactly. You should have seen how fast that mask went back on after eating or drinking. It's like no one heard of breath mints before. Oh no it's the big MINT industrial complex. lmao
In Scotland, according to the official govt numbers, the average age of covid deaths is 82 years old.
whereas average life expectancy is 81 years.
Not to mention over 50% of deaths were in residential care homes, government policy was to clear hospital beds for the influx of covid patients, infected patients were discharged from hospital into care homes and infected the most at.risk group in society.
This is the real scandal, the same thing happened around the world in many countries.
Please don't stop debunking Dave Cullen videos (Computing Forever). This guy is extremely influencial here in Ireland and because of him we have weekly protests against masks. He deserves to be publicly ashamed for the utter disinformation he regularly posts (even the tripe about Bill Gates and a supposed big vaccination conspiracy). He is an antivaxx evangelical alt right personality.
"My body, my choice."
Oh, right. Your arguments only apply when it's helpful for your own narrative.
Him, out of it. Should talk to Vee, a friend of sargon. He lost two in his family. And in mine we lost 2 old and 2 of the real young in NSW Australia I'm in Queensland Australia . What I gets me is the excuse of not me or near me. A house cleaner lives in a hot spot and has been tested three times and lost two houses where the old owner died. Bugger huh.👍👌 keep going.
Doesn't Sargon this everything should be re-opened also? Why would you talk to anyone associated with him?
@@Peasham Yeah, my say was with Vee and his looses. Two to the Wy Flu and computing forever is like dropping off a cliff on this one. The Wu Flu seems to be a human reservoir virus. It can only infect when alive, so the infected need to keep away from people not infected. Like if your in a a mask area wear them, keep putting a finger up at the man by keeping the fine money in pocket, and so on.
Well, it's a rant day. You have a nice day.👍👌
So the chart that CF showed @9:24 , is it possible that social distancing, wearing masks and hand washing prevented deaths from other diseases as well and that fewer people on the roads resulted in fewer deaths?
Ooooo shieeet. You know its gonna be good when some couch-warrior picks on an accomplished scientist!
Computing Forever's channel is gone. 🦀🦀🦀
*channel is gone forever
It's just right wing taking points. Pretty sure He's paid to say them.
It's really funny how he rails on people on the left for their "paid talking points" when he is most likely (like pragerU) astroturf.
lol why would they pay when there are so many sheeple willing to mindlessly parrot their garbage? I definitely agree with you that there is an agenda, but I don't know if anyone is "paying" CF for it, that is giving CF too much credit for being capable of the ingenuity required for that.
@@Jpp-iy4km It's not a lot of money to billionaires and it takes a certain kind of person
@@jeremygregorio7472 You could be right. I just think its more likely CF is a clueless tool.
I would not be shocked
The cost of someone’s inconvenience of not wearing a mask ,is not worth the risk of death or permanent injury to ,lungs, hart, liver,kidneys
I wish I could wash my brain... after hearing such dishonesty and stupidity it just feels tarnished.
Dave and people like him have a startling lack of empathy: if it's not a concern for him, then it's not really a big deal. He simply cannot imagine what it might be like to be someone who is at high risk in the current situation, looking around at other people with a genuine fear of dying.
He's got his, and that's all that matters until it happens to him.
I bet CF doesn't know anyone who has been killed by a drunk driver.
Therefore drunk driving is safe.
"cost benefit analysis"
okay CF, lets do that.
Cost:
-not getting to have gatherings for a while
-having to wear a mask (a minor bother at worst)
-economic downturn until its over
-having to wash your hands with soap, something you should be doing anyway.
Benefit:
-240,000+ lives in the US alone. That's more than the entire population of Boise. An entire city's worth of people gone.
-hundreds of thousands of people not suffering from chronic fatigue and other long term effects.
-shorter harsh quarantine measures
-hospitals not getting completely overwhelmed to the point of having to refuse gravely ill patients.
I sure do wonder which one is the right choice.
Cost:
-Suicide rates at record highs
-Mass unemployment and poverty
-Breakdown of supply chains, leading to food being destroyed.
-Homelessness.
-Black communities having their homes and businesses burned to the ground in mostly peaceful protests.
Benefit:
-Questionable life savings at best. Considering you can compare death rates to covid by state. And then check which states locked down on a different site.
-Centralizing authority
-Realizing that the "flatten the curve" talking point has died half a year ago.
@@SangoProductions213 Did you seriously insinuate that the BLM protests were caused by COVID-19 lockdowns?
@@KingCreeper-1026 Wasn't an insinuation. Was a statement. Everything has ripple effects. Everything.
Someone without a job suddenly has a lot of time to get deranged on social media, find a group of like minded individuals, and all the free time in the world to mostly peacefully protest.
You can compare the states that had the most severe lock downs to the states that had the worst, and most long-lived of mostly peaceful protests.
Of course there's a common factor being party affiliation of the region. But nothing is caused by only one thing.
Just like how nearly all covid deaths had at least 3 compounding complications.
@@SangoProductions213 Ah, yes, because George Floyd wouldn’t have been extrajudicially murdered by police if there was no lockdown. The fact that you liked your own comment is the cherry on top of your sheer stupidity.
@@KingCreeper-1026 Wow. You are behind the times. But I'll catch you up.
short summary: "I am claustrophobic, just hold me on the ground." They accommodate his wishes, as he continues to fight and try to push them off. Then he enters cardiac arrest from the 3 or 4 hard drugs in his system. In case you didn't know this, the heart isn't in the neck.
But know what? That doesn't even matter, as guess what? People who want to mostly peacefully protest will do so with any justification that gets them the all-OK from the local politicans.
Guy charging a policeman with a knife, and gets himself shot? Time to upgrade from this month old Gucci bag.
I feel quite sorry for CF, he used to do some good interesting stuff but he went down the anti vaxxer and conspiracy rabbit hole and now he just comes across as a nutter
Don't see him complaining about laws to make people to wear a seatbelt or clothing...
Post that on his vid. Though I might just do so :)
Why did I started watching this guy (cf)?
Prolly some unfounded anger towards women that, hopefully, you've overcome.
@@williamhutton2126 I've NEVER had any anger towards women (With exceptions of course).
@@theknightsofawesomeness2701 With exceptions, indeed.
Computing for never
Does Not Compute
Most of these arguments are the national-scale version of “I totally need to bring this evil, yappy, non-toilet-trained chihuahua into your business for my mental health!!!”
the people i know who have cancer continued to get treatments
I have psoriasis yet I can still wash my hands, with no adverse reactions as I use pure glycerine soap. The main dermatological irritants in most soaps are added perfumes, oils, colourants, and lanolin - often used as a moisturiser. All of these are completely unnecessary, and as long as people with dermatological complaints use pure soaps, there is no excuse for not washing their hands properly.
I often cringe when I hear comparisons to flu. What do they mean by "flu"? Do they mean a heavy "flu like" cold, which most of us get but recover from, and which is commonly known as "the flu"? Or do they mean actual influenza, which is indeed a killer which can strike down anyone of any age. As we know from 100 years ago, influenza can even kill physically fit young men, trained to be soldiers. I doubt our friend here has ever known anyone with influenza. A friend of mine however contracted it and for weeks he lingered on the edge of death, but thankfully recovered.
Which brings me to "No-one knows anyone with Covid-19". No, he's speaking for himself, because he's in the privileged position of not knowing anyone - so far - who has never contracted Sars-Cov-2, and developed Covid-19. Well, news for him. As well as online friends who have been diagnosed with Covid-19, I also have a family member who has had it, and has been left with long term respiratory problems and organ damage due to the virus; what science is just now recognising as "Long Covid".
I don't believe in taking the gloves off with gobshites like this, because when they claim it is a conspiracy, that is a direct insult all those who have died of Covid-19, all their greiving loved ones, every person who has had the virus and recovered, and all of those living with the long term effects of Long Covid.
Plus as an anti-masker he is a danger to society, and deserves to be ostracised and shunned as such.
No shoes no shirt no service, Seat belts, Clothes in public, Drunk driving hmmmm also if Congress had done something to help Americans and not their donors the cost would not be bad other countries did it no issue but they care for their people
Less driving, less drunk driving due to less parties, more awareness of health issues etc. There are a lot of reasons why the pandemic is even likely to reduce overall death in any country that takes it somewhat serious.
That fireworks moment literally what happened to my town, people were so irresponsible that they used it literally next to roads, cables and a firework that was still on its stick and didn't go off yet landed in our garden near our kitchen, luckily the grass was wet but it was a huge hazard
Destroyed businesses, job losses, poverty.
Well well we’ll, it seems Computing Forever is arguing for socialism.
Oh, he thinks socialism is evil? He likes capitalism and defends unregulated capitalism at that?
Well, then, what problem does he have with those things? He’s defending the system that causes them!
If this guy would have to say something both accurate and honest he'd really be Computing Forever trying to.
The restrictions weren't even a point in that tweet, Dawkins simply stated that there are other factors that should be included in evaluation, not only your own freedom.
Those that give up liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both.
Computing Forever was a channel I followed because I was interested in Computing. His computer reviews changed though and he became a little obsessed with how terrible Apple were. Then one day he suddenly starts ranting about social justice and really hasn't stopped. Basically it's commentary al la Katie Hopkins- designed for views and people agreeing with him in the comments. It's deliberate, divisive and I doubt he even believes what he's saying.
Not wearing a mask is like smoking inside a public building. Ie, the harm is NOT just to the person who does it. The effect ALSO manifests in other people.
For the first time I stopped watching a video on your channel ...
I could not stop wanting to slap that guy in the face and i was getting mad at not being able to do so.
Especially the fucking smug face art he made
I looked at his channel and there is not a single video that I could find that was about computing
Btw I had COVID and considering my asthma, it was a nightmare. I spent most of the time not being able to breathe. I'm lucky enough to have at least an inhaler and nebulizer but it was scary
Richard Dawkins' tweet is similar to how I feel about how people treat their mental health.
For example, if you have an anger problem and you don't take the time to treat it or understand it, you're not just risking an outburst that makes you look foolish. You're also risking your anger having detrimental effects on friends, family, and strangers alike.
If you don't take your mental health seriously, you have no idea what kind of an impact you may leave on people. Remember, the world is bigger than just you.
Anyway, wear a mask (and go to therapy)
I'm going to be honest with you I am a severe asthmatic and sometimes most of the time the reason I don't go out is because I am unable to wear mask without hyperventilating or inducing an asthma attack but when I do I keep a well-kept distance from everybody not only for my safety but for the potential chance that I may have covid and not know
I see CF is still suffering delusions anf paranoia from his "God Pills".