Yeah, always important to consider that not all of horror movie weapons are intended to kill or be used in combat. Heck, the weird bone shuriken things used in Jeepers Creepers is a good example. The thing doesn't want you dead, it just wants your organs, and needs you alive while it harvests em, so a weapon that it can use to maim and hobble a target to separate them from a herd is actually entirely sensible. Sorta like the protags using a truck-bed mounted ballista for hunting a giant man-sized bat-creature. Right tool, right job.
@@azh698 yeah i thought he used it for trimming. I saw so many parodies i can't remember which one is a spoof and which is a real movie, anyway i remember he had a house and a family and one of the tools in his basement was a glove/trimmer
Yea... Which would make it more effective for killing In general though, it became more of a weapon when he became a dream demon, espically as it became more apart of his hand
Even executions by beheading can be screwed up so the executioner have to hack with the axe or sword several times. One of the reason for using a guillotine instead.
Bear in mind that Freddy's intended targets were, how to put it, not adults. Not even teens, when he was alive. So causing fear and not being effective were higher considerations.
something about being killed by an unnefective weapon is pretty good horror, though it can come around to being absolutely silly, as seen in the horribly slow murderer with the extremely inefficient weapon
Everytime Freddy has gotten into a fight out of Dreamland, he's got his butt handed to him everytime. So the movies actually show how useless his glove is in a fighting situation. Also Maniac Cop getting some love. Great movie. Bruce Campbell, Tom Adkins and Richard Roundtree.
@@orionthehunter217 Well, you may prefer meat hooks. I knew a guy named Benito who had a very nasty experience with meat hooks. They are hard to beat for sturdiness and penetration.
@@adeptronic Nah, meat hooks are lousy. Any kind of sword is better than a meat hook. Unless this is another political reference I'm not understanding......
The actor for Freddy Krueger actually hurt himself with the blades on his forearm during production. So you can add that to reasons why it wouldn't be very effective as a weapon.
A hay hook has a "D" shaped handle that doesn't go between the fingers. When using one (for hooking hay, not people) I'd often have it resting on the back of the forearm. It could be quickly deployed and jab into the bale easily. I also used a hay hook for meat: works great.
The hay hook I used on my Grandpa's ranch were of the "hook on a perpendicular stick" kind, similar to the one Skall had. Major differences are longer shanks and non-recurved hooks with a flatter curve.
The thing with Freddy is when he "designed" the gloves they were more a torture device than a proper weapon. Also his targets were kids, they couldn't put much of a fight against a psycho adult male. But yeah, as weapons they are "usable".
Yeah although once he became a dream demon they became pretty effective against opponents as shown best when he gets a couple good hits against Jason with it although that fight also demonstrates his limits as throughout most of the fight he gets tossed around and mostly has to rely on speed and cunning.
@@roberth4395 Also he had more than one model of the gloves, maybe even one for every "type" of children. You can see on some flashbacks that he had different gloves when his wife discovered everything.
@@jasonberryman1035 Well, once he is no longer a human some rules just doesn't apply anymore. Even when he get back his physical form, it isn't exactly a human.
The buck knife with its dramatic curved back and upturned tip make it only suitable for slashing and downward ice pick grip stabs or upward hammer grip thrusts. The bowie knife with its forward facing tip is better all around.
I've thought of designing a more terrifying version of Freddy's claws: gothic gauntlets with small (2inch [5.08cm] max) straight edge razors on the fingers... point looking like a sheepsfoot for thrusts to a degree. Thin cuts with little effort, not do nothing but break the wrist with a strike; and you can open doors with it on even if yiu have a blade on the thumb. And you can wear a glove on both hands. It only adds to Freddy's creepy factor For ambush attacks: perfect In armed combat: still crap
It could be effective, but I would recommend a curved one-edged blade on the thumb, for gouging and grappling purposes. Of course, for armed combat, having arm braces would certainly help and if you add padding it makes little to no noise. Also, I would recommend two edges on each of the finger's blades, for extra damage in stabs, and allowing a viable back-hand attack in order to reposition your arms after a missed swing.
I like where you're thinking but I would like to note straight razors are somewhat brittle It could be nice to ambush but if someone tried blocking it you could break your finger knives
@@thisaccountisntreal107 Okay, shaving sharp, not true razors, and definitely not the flat dull bits of crap he has in the movies (watch them, he takes the edge off of the when he "sharpens" them on a saw sharpener)
@@thescottishwookie7999 So karambit thumb and... hell, go full psycho and go full karambit blades; a true cat. But make the tips thicker so they don't get lost or dull with "daily" use
A fully armored and articulated gauntlet with sturdy, somewhat short but still sharp claws should be plenty. Especially if they're used for grappling if, say, your primary means of attack is something like a two-handed weapon. Then you have those claws to do damage when someone comes too close inside your guard or effective strike range with your primary. That does really hinge on the articulation though. You'd have to be able to grapple and grip well with them. I have a character that I kind of headcanon his fighting style as that he kind of 'herds' his opponent around with his primary weapon, which is a two-handed flanged mace. Not really trying to kill (unless they pretty much give him an opportunity for a killing/disabling strike on a platter) but rather force his foe to attempt to go inside or to the side of his maces' range. Then he does something to stagger his opponent either with his clawed gauntlet, the pommel of his mace or his armored knee or boot. Then, while they're reeling, he finishes with a big swing. I picture him as having a very restrained economy of movement in fights. No big, flashy swings or twirls or any showboating like that. Besides the large sweeps with his mace. He kind of keeps it moving to force his foe to keep moving as well or get smacked with it. Very defensive and cautious in his style, actually, despite having such an offensive weapon. Just concise and to the point. Simple and brutal. And he doesn't move faster than he needs to. In fact he takes care to be a bit slower. Menacing his foe with a kind of languid prowl. Like he has all the time in the world to kill you. He's a big dude in dark, bulky armor (warlock/warrior type, y'know. Witch-kingy, kinda thing going on there) so that kind of helps sell the image. I'm not in any way or form educated in these matters though. I'm just an amateur writer, not a martial artist. So I might be completely off here and it's simply not feasible for a fighter to be like that. I don't know. It just sounded cool in my head and made some sense to me. Feel free to correct me.
Thoroughly enjoyed this, really looking forward to part 2. This is a topic I've thought of myself for years, having seen way too many slasher movies since I was way too young, and so far I'm in agreement. One thing I will note, is that a LOT of the killers in these movies operate from stealth, not actually giving their victims any chance to fight back. In one of Freddy's movies, he kills a dude that he's already magically chained to a wall face-first! Jason likes to only announce himself mid-stab a lot too, with his magical teleportation ability. And of course hardly anyone is ever armored, most of the time they're naked, to fit in with that "horny teen" trope (and for audience enjoyment). My favorite aspect of this topic is how often the attacks probably wouldn't actually kill someone at all, certainly not instantly. The infamous decapitating uppercut aside of course. In the aforementioned attack by Freddy, he just slashes the guy's back and butt, it'd hurt like hell and leave gnarly scars and that's pretty much it. Guess he *thought* he was mortally wounded and died in his dreams or some such?
From personal experience from using a meat hook, it doesn't push back between your fingers. Though I've never used them on a live target either. They are great for piercing flesh and hauling a carcass though. Though they wouldn't be my first choice as a weapon. You can also get hay hooks which are similar to meat hooks but have a knuckle guard and don't have the bar between your fingers.
You came here with that profile picture, talking about hauling carcasses, and you expect me to believe that you have never used one on a living person?
I have experiance with the meat hook too and it pushes back into the hand if you try to hit hard with it. And this is very painfull. Because in a fight you don't use it fairly slowly against electroluted meat but fast against clothing and tensed muscles.
I had that same thought. If you're using its own weight as momentum it wouldn't do that, but if you tried to follow through it would. You probably never thought to try because you're using it for its intended purpose.
14:30 - sounds weird, but Hammer and Sickle make a great combination of Weapons! Hefty blunt impact damage to use against armor and stuff plus a fast thrust and cleave weapon with some defensive skills
I'm only at the meat hook, but I had to say I love your editing here. Who am I kidding? I love it every time your alter ego shows up. The subject of this video is right on too. Your analysis is always great. I'm definitely sharing this on Facebook.
I think a good example of functional finger claws are actually the ones on black panthers suit. They are short and sturdy, the wrist and fingers are supported by the suit (and of course they are made from fictional, ultrastong metal that slices through everything)
The idea that fictional metals like adamantium can "cut through anything" is a myth. Even if one had possession of a blade made from indestructible material, it still won't cut through things any better than a blade made of tempered steel. The only advantage is that it won't break and will not need re-sharpening.
@@JanetStarChild it also allows for extremely thin blade, reducing the friction. So it might cut through a little better. Not through everything of course though.
@@MedievalSolutions i know but thats why I said functional finger claws. I wasnt comparing them to any other weapons I was just comparing apples with apples
Jason Voorhees' machete's probably the most practical, real-world-useful slasher movie weapon. Of course, if you include fire-arms, like Ash's shotgun from Evil Dead, all bets are off. But typical horror movie weapons, are cool-looking, but gimmicky edged weapons that no-one would/could ever use, in reality.
@@JoeKerr019 don't really like the chainsaw. it's too loud to sneak up on someone and too heavy to chase someone down with, great for terrorizing people, but not really for killing.
@@JoeKerr019 Chainsaw is not really designed for fighting. A resisting opponent can easily dislodge or snap the chain with a well placed strike of any solid object, and it might even hurt the wielder.
TBH, the enemy being able to grab the baton part of the blade-baton isn't that much of a problem. Great, now they have the sheath, you still have the blade to go at it and also the bonus that they're probably too confused to see it coming...
@@ProcyonDei There was an episode of Highlander: The Series which I think illustrated your point quite well. In "The Modern Prometheus" two Immortals, Byron and Kershner duel. Byron uses a light sabre and a cane for parries. At one point Kershner seizes the cane and stabs him in the gut. Byron (exploiting the fact that the stab wound won't kill him) surprises Kershner by pulling a blade from his cane and counter-stabbing him, then takes his head with the sabre.
The "go bleed somewhere else" line was gold! I really enjoy this sort of analysis from you-it's always interesting and entertaining. While I agree with everything, minus actually watching the movies, I'm a wimp, I especially agree that Freddy's glove is wholly illogical (albeit cool) and it's bothered me for awhile.
On a more serious note, I wonder how well it works in actual combat. Sickle seems more effective if you wield it with just 1 hand, while hammers can be single or 2-handed depending on size. 🤔
Bring down the hammer on those well-armored bourgeoisie pigs and use the sickle to cut the despicable counter-revolutionary peasants apart for redistribution!
Defense is not really a consideration with most of these, becasue they're not meant to be used in a fair fight. They're meant to be used against helpless victims.
Freddy's glove isn't meant to be a combat weapon but rather a torture and murder weapon. Here in Australia, we had a case a decade ago where some psycho made a real Freddy glove with real razor sharp blades and he used it to slash someone up pretty badly. He almost killed them too and left them crippled with permanent wounds, both internal and external. The police involved in the case needed counselling due to the trauma of the victim they found and the glove weapon that was caked and stained with blood.
Wow the editing in this one along with your entertaining and informative insights make this video a great watch! Well done, I look forward to the continuation of this series.
I'm a hay bucker and I use hay hooks everyday. I think they would do WAY better. Specifically Shur-hooks. I've hook someone's hand one time while at work. It was impressive for sure.
ironic that the knife part was on a patreon CUT 🤣 BY the way, I loved the other Skall's interventions, watching you kill your alter egos always was fun but this time it looked very well edited, very agile, I'd definitely love more of this, makes videos more dynamic and it's easier for me to watch a long video for example whith things like this sprinkled in. you were entertaining before as well, that's why I'm here, but I just realised that apart of the fact that I like watching death and destruction of green screen people, I also realised that if you made a long video whith a lot of talking, it would be easier for me to follow or remain invested when it has little jokes like these. For example I also follow schollagladiatoria but Matt's videos are mostly talking and little to no action, I'm still subscribed but I'm ashamed of saying that I didn't watch many of his videos just because of that, only talking. it's not your case, I'm telling this to remind you why I like your channel or to make youbthimk you're doing it well, that the effort is appreciated 😁 so yeah, if you made a 30 min video you can keep my attention, even if I (and others) sometimes have short attention spend
As a chef myself I allways thought how funny it is when in horror movies ppl still use chef's knives after they were stucked in something... Those types of knives are very very delicate, specially their points, and they are easy to break.
For most of my life I was under the impression that Freddy's claw was a legit gardening tool that you can buy in hardware stores, thanks to the Simpsons.
Unpopular truth: poison and explosives are the best bet for prepared horror movie killers. Poison is the best stealth weapon, but rarely used in horror, since it is pretty unspectacular and too effective for most plots with serial killers. The big challenge would be to mix up poisons and poisoning methods: from deadly spices on food to bottled drinks with extra added, from blow darts and poison gas to skin poisons placed on smart phones or door knobs. As for flashy killers, you could do a lot with explosives. Mix up poisons and explosives and you become the most effective killer in a horror movie, while it most likely being the most boring horror movie, since everyone just dies without a fight or running away. You basically become Jigsaw, but without games, life lessons or any time wasted on complicated contraptions. But since everything works different in movies, your best bet might actually be a chainsaw taped onto a flame thrower... because rule of cool always works, until it hits plot armor.
You could make a good horror movie with a serial killer that uses poison. Even a gory one. Some can have very nasty effects on your body before killing you.
@@michaelo5665 Who has chainblades on their flamers? I know you can put an exterminator on a chainsword, but I haven't seen flamers with bayonets before.
Even alive, Freddy was only out there killing children... which is why the movie was so scary as a kid lol. But his weapon is effective for fighting elementary school kids from a grown man. He only uses it on older people AFTER magic is introduced. So I think in a way, their is a bit of serious realism in the movie logic of the weapon.
Freddy's glove would probably be most effective as a torture/intimidation device and not as a weapon. I suppose it might work doing the "death of a thousand cuts" but it's certainly not going to be a fight ender against anyone who can physically act to defend themself.
*Puts part over holding a knife correctly in a bonus cut so noone can accuse him of teaching murderers°, "This guy even receives payments of wannabe murderers for his lessons!"
@Ivan Vozjakov Have you never seen a knife? It is almost always possible to hold them by the blade without stabbing or cutting yourself because they're single edged almost by definition.
I'd argue that Freddy's glove is more of a torture tool than a proper weapon. Before he went up in smoke, he was a child molestin' sadist, so probably meant to scare his victims shitless and leave shallow, painful cuts over deep, deadly ones.
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Good points for most, but... The thing with Freddy's glove isn't for combat, it's to frighten and torture, and eventually kill. Especially children, since he was a child-murderer.
The knife baton has one other advantage. It's two weapons; hold the blade in one hand and the baton cover in the off hand and you can parry and counterattack.
if you ever get in a knife fight you have to assume you have to sacrifice something. The best option is the outside of your nondominant arm to protect your arteries and organs. Ideally cover it with a coat or something.
Ah yes, I will just wrap a coat around my arm while I'm being stabbed. The real key to winning a knife fight is to be strong enough to control each of your attackers' arms with one hand.
@@MrCmon113 that's assuming a lot, truthfully even while controlling the arm there is still movement. Try your idea with a big marking pen and someone else and you'll see, there is basically no way to completely stop someone and grabbing is doubtfull at best from the start. The coat is only to limit the damage, not prevent it.
I'd love to point that you can tell if a sickle is used to harvest wheat because the blade is SERRATED! That's because a serrated blade cuts the straws more easily, even if it's a very archaic design. There is another thing to say about smooth edge sickles tho... that the edge hardens with time because it absorbs the silica present in the straws, thus hardening the edge in a sort of "cold tempering"
The hidden blade in the billy club has another problem. Save for what grip the ribs on the handle provide, there's nothing stopping your hand from sliding up onto the blade.
I have to say, political symbolism aside, the combination of hammer and sickle is certainly outstandingly versatile, from a technical perspective as well as a weapons perspective.
*Regarding the meat-hook, it is the technique* - think whip or atlatl, not sword. The hook *starts* towards the back of the hand, and you "whip it." Thus, the round handle, and the *really* funky angle grip modernized hook seen @7:10 really shows this. I've used them - you'd be surprised how easy it is to get medieval with a meat hook. Soft, squishy humans are *way* more fragile than beef carcasses. So... I would imagine you can wreck a human pretty good with one.
For the Baton/sword from Maniac Cop, couldn't the Baton part when unsheathed be used in your offhand to fend off blows As to increase defence? Im pretty sure that using a regular wooden stick like that was actually done in the past, correct me if i'm wrong.
There's a few Kali martial arts mentions about stick and knife drills, so it definitely exists. Some sword scabbards including the one for the Pattern 1796 were robust enough to be used as a improvised weapon, but I don't know how many fighting systems documented it as a technique.
The fact that Freddy's claws are an inferior weapon is actually really relevant to Freddy as a character. He was an adult who enjoyed terrifying and murdering children. In his mind he was this powerful monster of children's nightmares but once other adults found him he was relatively defenseless. The claws are torture implements and not a weapon. As a monster that relies on psychological distress to persist, the claws are very effective.
In the book I'm writing, I have a militant cult that often just uses whatever the hell they can find as weapons, and the sickle makes a frequent appearance. I've had people tell me how utterly ineffective it is, but I always thought it could find the use in the hands of an aggressive fighter that might not care too much about his own safety, and makes for a good intimidation tool as well. Good to see that you think it is a reasonably effective weapon.
@@ATEC101 Cobra Assault Cannon. That was one of my first VHS tapes, I watched it once a week for YEARS. I still watch it at least once a year on bluray. I built a 1:8 scale papercraft model of ED 209 out of 60 sheets of cardstock over the course of six weeks. I have horrifying flashbacks that Murphy's wife really has to tell me something that make me jerk to the sides in my sleeping chair when I've had too much baby food for dinner.
About Freddy Krueger's claws. From personal experience it takes about a month of "bash the tip of your fingers against the wall" type conditioning to be able to confidently break a 1 cm thick floor tile by just hitting it with your fingers.... then if you consider the potential of finger conditioning that Shaolin monks achieve, I think that claws could be a quite effective weapon....
3:40 Let's not forget the flaw of having multiple blades. That increases the surface area and lowers the overall cutting power. 12:20 I watched your sickle sparing video a while back and I have to say that it's nice to see your opinion of the sickle hasn't changed since 2021.
I've always envisioned that a claw-style weapon would work better as a short blade with the reinforcements shown in the Nightmare on Elm Street remake, and extensive armoring over the back of the hand and upper arm. Blocking and parrying would be done with powerful backhands, and strikes would be focused on fragile and easier targets, such as the eyes and the structures of the neck. But very much a tool for weakening and toying with already vulnerable targets rather than striking a quick, decisive blow.
Politics aside, dual wielding a sickle and a hammer seems like a pretty good idea (if you need improvised weapons) you can use the sickle to hook or knock opponents weapons away and smash with the hammer once you’ve made an opening. At least in my noob sword appreciator opinion.
To be fair, Freddy's hand was more of a torture device than a killing weapon, in the first movie at least the victims died in different ways. He seldom attacks the head and the wounds (usually not in the head) work more like a warning or signature written on the bodies of his victims.
Freddy went after kids while alive, and teens in their dreams. I think it was about being scary/intimidation, if that was the case it was really effective
Longshoremen have used their hooks for fighting as well as shifting bales etc. Largely because it is something that is to hand, much as a machete or ax is for some people.
So what about a machete? (Jason, Friday 13th) It’s got good cutting potential (as it has to to clear through thick vegetation) and it’s got gladius like handling, although it’s probably not balanced like swords are. Just curious.
That will probably be in part 2. Even as a non optimal weapon it's still a sword with all the advantages it brings. Also machetes were designed to cleave dense foliage like briar, vines, and thin branches, all of which are harder to chop than soft tissue so a machete would actually inflict devastating wounds.
I forgot ZombieGoBoom did a video on Freddys claws. I think the only practical and damaging attack you could do with his claws is disemboweling attacks
"What could be better than the M4A1 Pulse Rifle" Go look up the Bolt Gun/Rifle from Warhammer 40k Skall I think you will find your answer. And while you are there take a look at the 40k Chainsword/Axe just for the giggles. Love the Video.
@@the_senate8050 If we are talking slasher flick I would agree (mostly), but if we are talking about something along the line of Lovecraft or Poe then 40k can definitely fit in the horror genre or at least a good portion can. I mean take that old fan theory that says Event Horizon is a unofficial 40k movie, that right there can show you how 40k can be horror. And to your second point a Khorne or Slaanesh cultist would make one hell of a slasher movie killer.
03:30 Reminds me when I still did Tiger Claw training you have to put a LOT of training into strengthening and toughening your fingers to be remotely effective with it (Lot of painful bag strikes to build up toughness, pain resistance, and strength. Push-ups on your fingertips, etc... Not a lot of fun folks.).
Most sickles would be on the weak side for weapon use but would be terrifying on unprotected flesh. Some of the heavier models of grass hooks, however, are quite robust and would be formidable if pressed into such a role. The Nolin's Concave or Lawn King models by the North Wayne Tool Co., for instance, have a cross section reminiscent of a fullered saber, though the edge angle is considerably thinner than you'd typically find on a sword.
@@XDieKillDieX Take a good look through the 19th and 20th century. I'm pretty sure non-religious politics have a matching body count to what religions ever achieved. All the various imperialist movements, the civil wars, the two literal world wars, the cold war and all the proxy wars that it contained.... You're talking about numbers in the hundrets of millions dead, and that's not even counting all the ways outside of war that political movements can get people killed.
@@rockyblacksmith I don't disagree, but you're still talking a couple of centuries vs millennia of religious conflict. I don't really have anything against religion or politics, I just don't like how they are used to get people to kill each other. Both are bad in that regard. I just think religion is a little more disingenuous about it.
the freddy claw reminds me of a ninja weapon the nekote or cats claw. it was a weapon designed for escape or climbing on occasion depending on desinge. primarily used to slash people in the face, or the joints as a means to distract the enemy long enough with pain enough to escape.
Freddie's glove isn't really a murder weapon, it's a torture tool. I mean ya he does kill with it, but usually by using his powers to ambush or immobilize his target. But it's primary purpose is intimidation and pain, making the prey fear him feeding his supernatural powers more
I really expected the chainsaw to be in this part, it just seems too impractical to be put higher up. Thinking purely about practicality as a weapon, it’s far too cumbersome and unwieldy to be useful. You’d be better picking up a hatchet. The chain and saw blades themselves also wouldn’t do well if you faced them with something like armour, though in a slasher flic your victims wouldn’t be wearing any, it would still get easily caught on clothes and bone. All in all a chainsaw is a great wood cutting tool, but a terrible murder weapon. Edit: Ok, Skall makes all these points and more in the second part to this video, but i still think some of these make more effective weapons and should be higher than the chainsaw is.
No joke, I love games that have the chainsaw as a melee weapon, but also a means of cutting wood. The Butcher's Chainsaw I have in Terraria has felled far more trees than mobs.
Now, I can see a chainsaw being used pretty effectively, but the killer would need 2 things: to be smart/resourceful enough to build a specially designed chainsaw for use on humans, while still being big and strong enough to use a chainsaw without being slowed down. The specially designed chainsaw isn't actually unrealistic, since different kinds of chainsaws exist already. Wood cutting chainsaws are obvious, but there are also concrete cutting chainsaws and metal cutting chainsaws. Building a murder chainsaw that can effectively cut through clothing and flesh isn't much of a stretch at all. The kind of murderer that can build this and be strong enough to use it would be a pretty scary dude: intentionally designing a weapon for the sole purpose of murdering people with one of the most terrifying weapons possible and ensuring a VERY gruesome death. Especially if he was able to get away with it despite the noise issues.
There are small chainsaws. I have a small chainsaw with an 18” blade. Not heavy but it requires a cord. But they do sell cordless electric chainsaws that can definitely kill.
Not saying it could be used like those other hooks but a hay hook usually has a ring of metal making up the handle and when handled properly doesn't move back on impact. As for sharpness my dad knew of someone who missed the bale and put the hook right through his kneecap.
We should probably consider that Freddy didn't probably intend the glove as a weapon, but as a torture device to be used on captive children. Ew.
Yeah, always important to consider that not all of horror movie weapons are intended to kill or be used in combat. Heck, the weird bone shuriken things used in Jeepers Creepers is a good example. The thing doesn't want you dead, it just wants your organs, and needs you alive while it harvests em, so a weapon that it can use to maim and hobble a target to separate them from a herd is actually entirely sensible. Sorta like the protags using a truck-bed mounted ballista for hunting a giant man-sized bat-creature. Right tool, right job.
Didn't they retcon the glove to be a hedge-trimming blade like the one used by Flanders in the Simpsons?
@@azh698 yeah i thought he used it for trimming. I saw so many parodies i can't remember which one is a spoof and which is a real movie, anyway i remember he had a house and a family and one of the tools in his basement was a glove/trimmer
Yea...
Which would make it more effective for killing
In general though, it became more of a weapon when he became a dream demon, espically as it became more apart of his hand
Strangely, horror weapons are designed or chosen for horror, not for efficiency.
“Particularly squishy human bodies” this is so accurate. As a child I thought it was much easier to decapitate a man than it really is.
How do you know how hard it is to decapitate a man? 🤔
@@genobreaker1054 😏🤫
So you use the edge of your shield to do the job, clever.
Must have been pretty awkward for both sides when you found out.
Even executions by beheading can be screwed up so the executioner have to hack with the axe or sword several times. One of the reason for using a guillotine instead.
The intermissions between weapons is genius!
Showing off why said weapon is better than the previous one.
Glad to know that all the editing was worth it. :)
@@Skallagrim Pity that sickle didn't get such treatment
And hilarious!
Bear in mind that Freddy's intended targets were, how to put it, not adults. Not even teens, when he was alive. So causing fear and not being effective were higher considerations.
something about being killed by an unnefective weapon is pretty good horror, though it can come around to being absolutely silly, as seen in the horribly slow murderer with the extremely inefficient weapon
They were more torture devices than proper weapons.
@@DIEGOLOKO82 and again and again and againand again
@@DIEGOLOKO82 Reminds me of a parody where the killer chase people with a spoon...
@@lamb-mz2sd thats the horribly slow murderer with the extremely inefficient weapon
Everytime Freddy has gotten into a fight out of Dreamland, he's got his butt handed to him everytime. So the movies actually show how useless his glove is in a fighting situation. Also Maniac Cop getting some love. Great movie. Bruce Campbell, Tom Adkins and Richard Roundtree.
When he was alive his victims were kids, and the gloves were more a torture device. He even had different models with different shapes
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Haha, great ending!
Hammer and sickle gets my vote for most deadly.
@@adeptronic Aw man, you're breaking the rule. DON'T DO THAT!!
@@orionthehunter217 Well, you may prefer meat hooks. I knew a guy named Benito who had a very nasty experience with meat hooks. They are hard to beat for sturdiness and penetration.
@@adeptronic Nah, meat hooks are lousy. Any kind of sword is better than a meat hook. Unless this is another political reference I'm not understanding......
@@orionthehunter217 I BELIEVE IN FIREARM SUPERIORITY
The actor for Freddy Krueger actually hurt himself with the blades on his forearm during production. So you can add that to reasons why it wouldn't be very effective as a weapon.
A hay hook has a "D" shaped handle that doesn't go between the fingers. When using one (for hooking hay, not people) I'd often have it resting on the back of the forearm. It could be quickly deployed and jab into the bale easily. I also used a hay hook for meat: works great.
Yeah, I was thinking of a bale hook too, it would certainly be a big more practical than a meat hook
There are also very similar fishery hooks.
The hay hook I used on my Grandpa's ranch were of the "hook on a perpendicular stick" kind, similar to the one Skall had. Major differences are longer shanks and non-recurved hooks with a flatter curve.
The thing with Freddy is when he "designed" the gloves they were more a torture device than a proper weapon. Also his targets were kids, they couldn't put much of a fight against a psycho adult male. But yeah, as weapons they are "usable".
Those claws looks perfect for someone who wants to cut up a sleeping person's face just to inflict pain.
Yeah although once he became a dream demon they became pretty effective against opponents as shown best when he gets a couple good hits against Jason with it although that fight also demonstrates his limits as throughout most of the fight he gets tossed around and mostly has to rely on speed and cunning.
@@roberth4395 Also he had more than one model of the gloves, maybe even one for every "type" of children. You can see on some flashbacks that he had different gloves when his wife discovered everything.
@@jasonberryman1035 Well, once he is no longer a human some rules just doesn't apply anymore. Even when he get back his physical form, it isn't exactly a human.
Let's be honest ghost faces buck 120 general is one of the most realistic horror weapon that would be a very effective weapon
Such a nice knife
I own a buck 119, gotta say this comment is on the nose, great knife overall
The buck knife with its dramatic curved back and upturned tip make it only suitable for slashing and downward ice pick grip stabs or upward hammer grip thrusts. The bowie knife with its forward facing tip is better all around.
Ghost face the rapper?
Ghost face the screamo
Like just for Skall's editing. Devilishly good!
We all know that the Hash Slinging Slasher will be number one. His weapon choice is the least suspicious for a murder weapon.
I've thought of designing a more terrifying version of Freddy's claws: gothic gauntlets with small (2inch [5.08cm] max) straight edge razors on the fingers... point looking like a sheepsfoot for thrusts to a degree.
Thin cuts with little effort, not do nothing but break the wrist with a strike; and you can open doors with it on even if yiu have a blade on the thumb. And you can wear a glove on both hands.
It only adds to Freddy's creepy factor
For ambush attacks: perfect
In armed combat: still crap
It could be effective, but I would recommend a curved one-edged blade on the thumb, for gouging and grappling purposes. Of course, for armed combat, having arm braces would certainly help and if you add padding it makes little to no noise. Also, I would recommend two edges on each of the finger's blades, for extra damage in stabs, and allowing a viable back-hand attack in order to reposition your arms after a missed swing.
I like where you're thinking but I would like to note straight razors are somewhat brittle
It could be nice to ambush but if someone tried blocking it you could break your finger knives
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Okay, shaving sharp, not true razors, and definitely not the flat dull bits of crap he has in the movies (watch them, he takes the edge off of the when he "sharpens" them on a saw sharpener)
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So karambit thumb and... hell, go full psycho and go full karambit blades; a true cat.
But make the tips thicker so they don't get lost or dull with "daily" use
A fully armored and articulated gauntlet with sturdy, somewhat short but still sharp claws should be plenty.
Especially if they're used for grappling if, say, your primary means of attack is something like a two-handed weapon.
Then you have those claws to do damage when someone comes too close inside your guard or effective strike range with your primary.
That does really hinge on the articulation though. You'd have to be able to grapple and grip well with them.
I have a character that I kind of headcanon his fighting style as that he kind of 'herds' his opponent around with his primary weapon, which is a two-handed flanged mace.
Not really trying to kill (unless they pretty much give him an opportunity for a killing/disabling strike on a platter) but rather force his foe to attempt to go inside or to the side of his maces' range. Then he does something to stagger his opponent either with his clawed gauntlet, the pommel of his mace or his armored knee or boot. Then, while they're reeling, he finishes with a big swing.
I picture him as having a very restrained economy of movement in fights. No big, flashy swings or twirls or any showboating like that.
Besides the large sweeps with his mace. He kind of keeps it moving to force his foe to keep moving as well or get smacked with it.
Very defensive and cautious in his style, actually, despite having such an offensive weapon.
Just concise and to the point. Simple and brutal. And he doesn't move faster than he needs to.
In fact he takes care to be a bit slower. Menacing his foe with a kind of languid prowl. Like he has all the time in the world to kill you.
He's a big dude in dark, bulky armor (warlock/warrior type, y'know. Witch-kingy, kinda thing going on there) so that kind of helps sell the image.
I'm not in any way or form educated in these matters though. I'm just an amateur writer, not a martial artist.
So I might be completely off here and it's simply not feasible for a fighter to be like that.
I don't know. It just sounded cool in my head and made some sense to me. Feel free to correct me.
Thoroughly enjoyed this, really looking forward to part 2. This is a topic I've thought of myself for years, having seen way too many slasher movies since I was way too young, and so far I'm in agreement.
One thing I will note, is that a LOT of the killers in these movies operate from stealth, not actually giving their victims any chance to fight back. In one of Freddy's movies, he kills a dude that he's already magically chained to a wall face-first! Jason likes to only announce himself mid-stab a lot too, with his magical teleportation ability. And of course hardly anyone is ever armored, most of the time they're naked, to fit in with that "horny teen" trope (and for audience enjoyment).
My favorite aspect of this topic is how often the attacks probably wouldn't actually kill someone at all, certainly not instantly. The infamous decapitating uppercut aside of course. In the aforementioned attack by Freddy, he just slashes the guy's back and butt, it'd hurt like hell and leave gnarly scars and that's pretty much it. Guess he *thought* he was mortally wounded and died in his dreams or some such?
Freddy goes for fear and pain before the kills, unless otherwise required
From personal experience from using a meat hook, it doesn't push back between your fingers. Though I've never used them on a live target either. They are great for piercing flesh and hauling a carcass though. Though they wouldn't be my first choice as a weapon. You can also get hay hooks which are similar to meat hooks but have a knuckle guard and don't have the bar between your fingers.
You came here with that profile picture, talking about hauling carcasses, and you expect me to believe that you have never used one on a living person?
I have experiance with the meat hook too and it pushes back into the hand if you try to hit hard with it. And this is very painfull. Because in a fight you don't use it fairly slowly against electroluted meat but fast against clothing and tensed muscles.
That picture does not convince anyone about your none live target alibi, especially with the no body name lol... Keep it real
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No Body because no body was ever found :P
(Cheers, OP, hope you don't mind us dumb memelords!)
I had that same thought. If you're using its own weight as momentum it wouldn't do that, but if you tried to follow through it would. You probably never thought to try because you're using it for its intended purpose.
14:30 - sounds weird, but Hammer and Sickle make a great combination of Weapons!
Hefty blunt impact damage to use against armor and stuff plus a fast thrust and cleave weapon with some defensive skills
The little brother of billhook and mace.
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I'm only at the meat hook, but I had to say I love your editing here. Who am I kidding? I love it every time your alter ego shows up. The subject of this video is right on too. Your analysis is always great. I'm definitely sharing this on Facebook.
Thanks!
I think a good example of functional finger claws are actually the ones on black panthers suit. They are short and sturdy, the wrist and fingers are supported by the suit (and of course they are made from fictional, ultrastong metal that slices through everything)
Y'know its kinda like an odd/alternate way of building the waghnak/tiger claws when you think about it.
The idea that fictional metals like adamantium can "cut through anything" is a myth.
Even if one had possession of a blade made from indestructible material, it still won't cut through things any better than a blade made of tempered steel. The only advantage is that it won't break and will not need re-sharpening.
@@JanetStarChild it also allows for extremely thin blade, reducing the friction. So it might cut through a little better. Not through everything of course though.
Yeah if you take away the fictional ultrastrong metal, a kitchen knife would beat the claws...
@@MedievalSolutions i know but thats why I said functional finger claws. I wasnt comparing them to any other weapons I was just comparing apples with apples
Jason Voorhees' machete's probably the most practical, real-world-useful slasher movie weapon.
Of course, if you include fire-arms, like Ash's shotgun from Evil Dead, all bets are off. But typical horror movie weapons, are cool-looking, but gimmicky edged weapons that no-one would/could ever use, in reality.
That, or Leatherface chainsaw
@@JoeKerr019 don't really like the chainsaw. it's too loud to sneak up on someone and too heavy to chase someone down with, great for terrorizing people, but not really for killing.
Butcher knife - as scene in Psycho, Halloween, and many, many, many more...
@@JoeKerr019 Chainsaw is not really designed for fighting. A resisting opponent can easily dislodge or snap the chain with a well placed strike of any solid object, and it might even hurt the wielder.
Michael myers's knife can be considered as a practical weapon too
TBH, the enemy being able to grab the baton part of the blade-baton isn't that much of a problem. Great, now they have the sheath, you still have the blade to go at it and also the bonus that they're probably too confused to see it coming...
Well, having the enemy unsheath the blade also gives them something to defend against the blade.
@@larquefausse3623 Yes, but not completely. And as I said, they wouldn't expect it, so that'd be a nasty surprise for them...
@@ProcyonDei There was an episode of Highlander: The Series which I think illustrated your point quite well. In "The Modern Prometheus" two Immortals, Byron and Kershner duel. Byron uses a light sabre and a cane for parries. At one point Kershner seizes the cane and stabs him in the gut. Byron (exploiting the fact that the stab wound won't kill him) surprises Kershner by pulling a blade from his cane and counter-stabbing him, then takes his head with the sabre.
The "go bleed somewhere else" line was gold! I really enjoy this sort of analysis from you-it's always interesting and entertaining. While I agree with everything, minus actually watching the movies, I'm a wimp, I especially agree that Freddy's glove is wholly illogical (albeit cool) and it's bothered me for awhile.
A hammer and sickle does seem like an interesting combination for dual wielding, effective against armored and unarmored opponents.
I am sure that a united army of workers that has seized these two means of production could be responsible for many deaths!
On a more serious note, I wonder how well it works in actual combat. Sickle seems more effective if you wield it with just 1 hand, while hammers can be single or 2-handed depending on size. 🤔
Bring down the hammer on those well-armored bourgeoisie pigs and use the sickle to cut the despicable counter-revolutionary peasants apart for redistribution!
Ghostface uses a Buck 120 General. That's how you know that he has good taste in knives.
*_The range visualizer is an awesome touch!_*
Defense is not really a consideration with most of these, becasue they're not meant to be used in a fair fight. They're meant to be used against helpless victims.
Helpless victims often scramble together some form of a weapon in horror movies. Only to realize no conventional weapon can save them.
Is there a horror villain that actually has weapon(s) with good defensive capabilities?
@@maevixie7041 Maybe Jason?
@@maevixie7041 Anyone that uses guns
@@maevixie7041 would you consider Jeepers Creeper's truck to be a defensive weapon?
Freddy's glove isn't meant to be a combat weapon but rather a torture and murder weapon.
Here in Australia, we had a case a decade ago where some psycho made a real Freddy glove with real razor sharp blades and he used it to slash someone up pretty badly. He almost killed them too and left them crippled with permanent wounds, both internal and external. The police involved in the case needed counselling due to the trauma of the victim they found and the glove weapon that was caked and stained with blood.
Wow the editing in this one along with your entertaining and informative insights make this video a great watch! Well done, I look forward to the continuation of this series.
I'm a hay bucker and I use hay hooks everyday. I think they would do WAY better. Specifically Shur-hooks. I've hook someone's hand one time while at work. It was impressive for sure.
Ouch poor guy
I've only used a giant fork to move hay and straw. The modern large roll style bales are moved only by machine.
And by "hook someone's hand" do you mean caught them with the crook, or do you mean stabby stab?
Out west in Arizona, if you deiver it. It comes in squeezes of 64. Usually 95-110 lbs each. Ah, stabby stab me friend.
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ironic that the knife part was on a patreon CUT 🤣 BY the way, I loved the other Skall's interventions, watching you kill your alter egos always was fun but this time it looked very well edited, very agile, I'd definitely love more of this, makes videos more dynamic and it's easier for me to watch a long video for example whith things like this sprinkled in. you were entertaining before as well, that's why I'm here, but I just realised that apart of the fact that I like watching death and destruction of green screen people, I also realised that if you made a long video whith a lot of talking, it would be easier for me to follow or remain invested when it has little jokes like these. For example I also follow schollagladiatoria but Matt's videos are mostly talking and little to no action, I'm still subscribed but I'm ashamed of saying that I didn't watch many of his videos just because of that, only talking. it's not your case, I'm telling this to remind you why I like your channel or to make youbthimk you're doing it well, that the effort is appreciated 😁
so yeah, if you made a 30 min video you can keep my attention, even if I (and others) sometimes have short attention spend
As a chef myself I allways thought how funny it is when in horror movies ppl still use chef's knives after they were stucked in something... Those types of knives are very very delicate, specially their points, and they are easy to break.
For most of my life I was under the impression that Freddy's claw was a legit gardening tool that you can buy in hardware stores, thanks to the Simpsons.
Would love to see a video on how you would change these weapons yourself to suit the practical world
Unpopular truth: poison and explosives are the best bet for prepared horror movie killers.
Poison is the best stealth weapon, but rarely used in horror, since it is pretty unspectacular and too effective for most plots with serial killers. The big challenge would be to mix up poisons and poisoning methods: from deadly spices on food to bottled drinks with extra added, from blow darts and poison gas to skin poisons placed on smart phones or door knobs.
As for flashy killers, you could do a lot with explosives. Mix up poisons and explosives and you become the most effective killer in a horror movie, while it most likely being the most boring horror movie, since everyone just dies without a fight or running away. You basically become Jigsaw, but without games, life lessons or any time wasted on complicated contraptions.
But since everything works different in movies, your best bet might actually be a chainsaw taped onto a flame thrower... because rule of cool always works, until it hits plot armor.
Chainsaw taped to a flamethrower, BRB while I jot down notes for a 40k weapon.
@@the_senate8050 it already exists
You could make a good horror movie with a serial killer that uses poison. Even a gory one. Some can have very nasty effects on your body before killing you.
Chainsaw taped onto a flamethrower? Pff, make it THROWN and NOW we're talking
@@michaelo5665 Who has chainblades on their flamers? I know you can put an exterminator on a chainsword, but I haven't seen flamers with bayonets before.
the sickle is so effective, it has been used as an actual weapon of war, with only slight modifications. the Egyptian kopesh is the best example
Even alive, Freddy was only out there killing children... which is why the movie was so scary as a kid lol. But his weapon is effective for fighting elementary school kids from a grown man. He only uses it on older people AFTER magic is introduced. So I think in a way, their is a bit of serious realism in the movie logic of the weapon.
Freddy glove version at Wes Craven's New Nightmare >>>>>
Nothing is more cool than having your weapon being a mix of meat, blood and sharp bones.
Freddy's glove would probably be most effective as a torture/intimidation device and not as a weapon. I suppose it might work doing the "death of a thousand cuts" but it's certainly not going to be a fight ender against anyone who can physically act to defend themself.
6:53 "You can hook with it. It is a hook after all." Just made my day.
Can’t wait for the next entry- Pennywise’s balloons.
Just fill them with sarine or even chlorine.
*Puts part over holding a knife correctly in a bonus cut so noone can accuse him of teaching murderers°, "This guy even receives payments of wannabe murderers for his lessons!"
8:35
Amateur murderers are mad because now they have to pay for advice in how to stabb better
I'll advise them for free. Pointy end goes towards the user.
@Ivan Vozjakov Have you never seen a knife? It is almost always possible to hold them by the blade without stabbing or cutting yourself because they're single edged almost by definition.
I really appreciated the extra editing in this one! Awesome job, Skall. Cool topic as well.
I'd argue that Freddy's glove is more of a torture tool than a proper weapon. Before he went up in smoke, he was a child molestin' sadist, so probably meant to scare his victims shitless and leave shallow, painful cuts over deep, deadly ones.
Yaaaaassss!! You were searching for new video topics? THIS!! is my jam!!!
I'm enjoying this end of Halloween month more than I should and that is partially due to our great youtuber Skallagrim, I usually don't give many comments in this channel, but I really like the content, being following since 2014
Just because you ask: fantasy/movie/video game weapons being analyzed in real life situations (such as this video) are my favorite content from you.
"Tigers have huge murder mittens..."
Lost it after that one. Love that Skall still hasn't lost his edge. >.>
I mean they do. A lazy swipe from a tiger can easily send your head rolling.
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@@satansjihad6353 Yes
Curse my vote for the 2 part video! Very entertained throughout, good job on this one.
The effort and production value is readily apparent in this video and all of your recent videos. Love ya Skall, keep up the good work.
I don't get why you don't get more views, you have some of the most interesting videos when it comes to weaponry.
Good points for most, but...
The thing with Freddy's glove isn't for combat, it's to frighten and torture, and eventually kill. Especially children, since he was a child-murderer.
A gauntlet with wolverine blades on the end may be a very good weapon and much better than Freddie's finger blades
And you can just wear it, no need to draw it like a knife
The knife baton has one other advantage.
It's two weapons; hold the blade in one hand and the baton cover in the off hand and you can parry and counterattack.
if you ever get in a knife fight you have to assume you have to sacrifice something. The best option is the outside of your nondominant arm to protect your arteries and organs. Ideally cover it with a coat or something.
Best option is to run away from a knife fight.
@@fredjung 100% true as long as you have the option to... my hypothetical was in the no running possibility situations.
Ah yes, I will just wrap a coat around my arm while I'm being stabbed.
The real key to winning a knife fight is to be strong enough to control each of your attackers' arms with one hand.
@@MrCmon113 that's assuming a lot, truthfully even while controlling the arm there is still movement. Try your idea with a big marking pen and someone else and you'll see, there is basically no way to completely stop someone and grabbing is doubtfull at best from the start. The coat is only to limit the damage, not prevent it.
@@MrCmon113 oh and I was implying knife against knife, not unarmed against knife.
I'd love to point that you can tell if a sickle is used to harvest wheat because the blade is SERRATED! That's because a serrated blade cuts the straws more easily, even if it's a very archaic design.
There is another thing to say about smooth edge sickles tho... that the edge hardens with time because it absorbs the silica present in the straws, thus hardening the edge in a sort of "cold tempering"
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keep being awesome skall
The hidden blade in the billy club has another problem. Save for what grip the ribs on the handle provide, there's nothing stopping your hand from sliding up onto the blade.
I have to say, political symbolism aside, the combination of hammer and sickle is certainly outstandingly versatile, from a technical perspective as well as a weapons perspective.
*Regarding the meat-hook, it is the technique* - think whip or atlatl, not sword. The hook *starts* towards the back of the hand, and you "whip it." Thus, the round handle, and the *really* funky angle grip modernized hook seen @7:10 really shows this. I've used them - you'd be surprised how easy it is to get medieval with a meat hook. Soft, squishy humans are *way* more fragile than beef carcasses. So... I would imagine you can wreck a human pretty good with one.
Think about it though: carrying both hammer and sickle to switch deoending on the opponent's armor would be pretty damn effective
From what i can see, this vid deserve more views. Gj skall. Feels like we get a better look on whats goes on inside youre head... for better or worse.
For the Baton/sword from Maniac Cop, couldn't the Baton part when unsheathed be used in your offhand to fend off blows As to increase defence?
Im pretty sure that using a regular wooden stick like that was actually done in the past, correct me if i'm wrong.
There's a few Kali martial arts mentions about stick and knife drills, so it definitely exists.
Some sword scabbards including the one for the Pattern 1796 were robust enough to be used as a improvised weapon, but I don't know how many fighting systems documented it as a technique.
Wow! Not only was this great but the quality was flawless!
The fact that Freddy's claws are an inferior weapon is actually really relevant to Freddy as a character. He was an adult who enjoyed terrifying and murdering children. In his mind he was this powerful monster of children's nightmares but once other adults found him he was relatively defenseless. The claws are torture implements and not a weapon. As a monster that relies on psychological distress to persist, the claws are very effective.
In the book I'm writing, I have a militant cult that often just uses whatever the hell they can find as weapons, and the sickle makes a frequent appearance. I've had people tell me how utterly ineffective it is, but I always thought it could find the use in the hands of an aggressive fighter that might not care too much about his own safety, and makes for a good intimidation tool as well.
Good to see that you think it is a reasonably effective weapon.
There should be a slasher film where the antagonist uses a deerhorn knife.
And would his name be Buck and he kills hunters?
@@fredjung Bubba*
„Go, bleed somewhere else!“ might be the most badass thing you've ever said.
The best GUN from a fictional villain would have to be the Zorg ZF-1 from the Fifth Element.
BFG from Doom, LoL
That or the Judge from Judge Dred. The Stalone version, not the abortion of a remake.
The gun from the OG Robocop to blow up a new SUX-9000 seemed nice.
Hardly, it's got a big red button on it that makes it explode. It's not even covered up with a safety latch or anything!
@@ATEC101 Cobra Assault Cannon. That was one of my first VHS tapes, I watched it once a week for YEARS. I still watch it at least once a year on bluray. I built a 1:8 scale papercraft model of ED 209 out of 60 sheets of cardstock over the course of six weeks. I have horrifying flashbacks that Murphy's wife really has to tell me something that make me jerk to the sides in my sleeping chair when I've had too much baby food for dinner.
Beautiful transition, some of the finest skall content yet!
About Freddy Krueger's claws. From personal experience it takes about a month of "bash the tip of your fingers against the wall" type conditioning to be able to confidently break a 1 cm thick floor tile by just hitting it with your fingers.... then if you consider the potential of finger conditioning that Shaolin monks achieve, I think that claws could be a quite effective weapon....
Aren't they offset? Like a tiny bayonet? So it's twisting even in a stab. Not sure jab training would help.
Yeah but if you've done that level of hand conditioning you could just hit them. Or use a knife.
3:40 Let's not forget the flaw of having multiple blades. That increases the surface area and lowers the overall cutting power.
12:20 I watched your sickle sparing video a while back and I have to say that it's nice to see your opinion of the sickle hasn't changed since 2021.
The real question here is. Are these all the same evil Skall coming back for more or is there a line of evil Skalls all waiting their turn?
I've always envisioned that a claw-style weapon would work better as a short blade with the reinforcements shown in the Nightmare on Elm Street remake, and extensive armoring over the back of the hand and upper arm. Blocking and parrying would be done with powerful backhands, and strikes would be focused on fragile and easier targets, such as the eyes and the structures of the neck. But very much a tool for weakening and toying with already vulnerable targets rather than striking a quick, decisive blow.
Politics aside, dual wielding a sickle and a hammer seems like a pretty good idea (if you need improvised weapons) you can use the sickle to hook or knock opponents weapons away and smash with the hammer once you’ve made an opening. At least in my noob sword appreciator opinion.
Really looking forward the second part, keep that up.
To be fair, Freddy's hand was more of a torture device than a killing weapon, in the first movie at least the victims died in different ways. He seldom attacks the head and the wounds (usually not in the head) work more like a warning or signature written on the bodies of his victims.
Freddy went after kids while alive, and teens in their dreams. I think it was about being scary/intimidation, if that was the case it was really effective
Longshoremen have used their hooks for fighting as well as shifting bales etc. Largely because it is something that is to hand, much as a machete or ax is for some people.
"The sickle, as seen in--"
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How sad we live in a time if discussion of movie stuff like this needs a disclaimer.
The tall man spheres are LEGEND! Love those movies.
So what about a machete? (Jason, Friday 13th) It’s got good cutting potential (as it has to to clear through thick vegetation) and it’s got gladius like handling, although it’s probably not balanced like swords are. Just curious.
That will probably be in part 2. Even as a non optimal weapon it's still a sword with all the advantages it brings. Also machetes were designed to cleave dense foliage like briar, vines, and thin branches, all of which are harder to chop than soft tissue so a machete would actually inflict devastating wounds.
Great stuff! Got inked over to this video from your more recent sickle sparing video. Great stuff!
Awesome. Classic Skall humor. Going to watch the Patreon cut in a little bit.
I forgot ZombieGoBoom did a video on Freddys claws. I think the only practical and damaging attack you could do with his claws is disemboweling attacks
"What could be better than the M4A1 Pulse Rifle"
Go look up the Bolt Gun/Rifle from Warhammer 40k Skall I think you will find your answer.
And while you are there take a look at the 40k Chainsword/Axe just for the giggles.
Love the Video.
40k is Grimdark, not really horror though. Now a horror movie with a chainsword wieling chaos cultist as your slasher would be pretty rad.
@@the_senate8050 If we are talking slasher flick I would agree (mostly), but if we are talking about something along the line of Lovecraft or Poe then 40k can definitely fit in the horror genre or at least a good portion can. I mean take that old fan theory that says Event Horizon is a unofficial 40k movie, that right there can show you how 40k can be horror. And to your second point a Khorne or Slaanesh cultist would make one hell of a slasher movie killer.
03:30 Reminds me when I still did Tiger Claw training you have to put a LOT of training into strengthening and toughening your fingers to be remotely effective with it (Lot of painful bag strikes to build up toughness, pain resistance, and strength. Push-ups on your fingertips, etc... Not a lot of fun folks.).
Hey, I recently recognize Booster Gold’s powers might be your favourite.
loved the knife transition
Most sickles would be on the weak side for weapon use but would be terrifying on unprotected flesh. Some of the heavier models of grass hooks, however, are quite robust and would be formidable if pressed into such a role. The Nolin's Concave or Lawn King models by the North Wayne Tool Co., for instance, have a cross section reminiscent of a fullered saber, though the edge angle is considerably thinner than you'd typically find on a sword.
I love that UA-cam's happy to rent you movies with all sorts of violence but youtubers have to walk on eggshells lol
Ah yes the most powerful murder weapon of all, politics.
When a "u poopy head" and "no u" can trigger a war that causes the deaths of millions.
No, that's religion. Politics is second.
@@XDieKillDieX Christians declaring war against each other because one goes to the church on Sundays and the other goes on Saturdays.
@@XDieKillDieX Take a good look through the 19th and 20th century. I'm pretty sure non-religious politics have a matching body count to what religions ever achieved.
All the various imperialist movements, the civil wars, the two literal world wars, the cold war and all the proxy wars that it contained....
You're talking about numbers in the hundrets of millions dead, and that's not even counting all the ways outside of war that political movements can get people killed.
@@rockyblacksmith I don't disagree, but you're still talking a couple of centuries vs millennia of religious conflict. I don't really have anything against religion or politics, I just don't like how they are used to get people to kill each other. Both are bad in that regard. I just think religion is a little more disingenuous about it.
the freddy claw reminds me of a ninja weapon the nekote or cats claw. it was a weapon designed for escape or climbing on occasion depending on desinge. primarily used to slash people in the face, or the joints as a means to distract the enemy long enough with pain enough to escape.
hehe the in-betweens glorious.
Freddie's glove isn't really a murder weapon, it's a torture tool. I mean ya he does kill with it, but usually by using his powers to ambush or immobilize his target. But it's primary purpose is intimidation and pain, making the prey fear him feeding his supernatural powers more
I really expected the chainsaw to be in this part, it just seems too impractical to be put higher up. Thinking purely about practicality as a weapon, it’s far too cumbersome and unwieldy to be useful. You’d be better picking up a hatchet.
The chain and saw blades themselves also wouldn’t do well if you faced them with something like armour, though in a slasher flic your victims wouldn’t be wearing any, it would still get easily caught on clothes and bone.
All in all a chainsaw is a great wood cutting tool, but a terrible murder weapon.
Edit: Ok, Skall makes all these points and more in the second part to this video, but i still think some of these make more effective weapons and should be higher than the chainsaw is.
It’s tenth to sixth not one hundredth to sixth.
this feels like you have some exp with it.... what went wrong?
No joke, I love games that have the chainsaw as a melee weapon, but also a means of cutting wood. The Butcher's Chainsaw I have in Terraria has felled far more trees than mobs.
Now, I can see a chainsaw being used pretty effectively, but the killer would need 2 things: to be smart/resourceful enough to build a specially designed chainsaw for use on humans, while still being big and strong enough to use a chainsaw without being slowed down. The specially designed chainsaw isn't actually unrealistic, since different kinds of chainsaws exist already. Wood cutting chainsaws are obvious, but there are also concrete cutting chainsaws and metal cutting chainsaws. Building a murder chainsaw that can effectively cut through clothing and flesh isn't much of a stretch at all. The kind of murderer that can build this and be strong enough to use it would be a pretty scary dude: intentionally designing a weapon for the sole purpose of murdering people with one of the most terrifying weapons possible and ensuring a VERY gruesome death. Especially if he was able to get away with it despite the noise issues.
There are small chainsaws. I have a small chainsaw with an 18” blade. Not heavy but it requires a cord. But they do sell cordless electric chainsaws that can definitely kill.
Not saying it could be used like those other hooks but a hay hook usually has a ring of metal making up the handle and when handled properly doesn't move back on impact. As for sharpness my dad knew of someone who missed the bale and put the hook right through his kneecap.
The Hand of Stalin will Guide your Sickle to defeat the enemies of the Motherland
*USSR Anthem in Earrape plays*
This works only if you have a hammer in the other hand.
I like how he kills the hooded hater every time it’s so nonchalant