@@hootinthedark I disagree as well but I respect your calm and polite response to what was kinda just a rude unproductive comment tbh ( like if your gonna disagree with someone maybe actually state your reason as to why rather than just telling someone that their opinion sucks 😅😅) .
I find it ironic they clearly say in the episode Octavia isn’t old enough to inherit anything but on a previous episode her inheriting Stolas’ things in case he died was the sole reason Stella and Andy chose to spare him.
She's the cautionary heir. When she is old enough she's gonna get all his stuff. Just not right now. That's the point. She didn't inherit anything just yet.
@@seeleunit2000 Andre said “if he dies, his duties, his possessions, his legions will all go to Via”. It’s not implied it would be a future event. It’s pretty much treated as an inevitability in case Stolas dies. Had Stolas died in WE, what would’ve stopped them from arguing Via is too young to inherit and someone else had to take over in the meantime just like they did in Mastermind?
Andre was hoping they'd give him permanently all of his belongings vs the century we got. Who knows if the next court scene will be more about the power and title and legions and all that or not, assuming the supposed court scene in S3 is even there or about that.
The reason he was acting like some big mastermind or whatever is probably because he thought that he was about to die so he wanted one big final song at least. I don’t think he actually thinks he’s a martyr for Blitz
That's the point. He doesn't get it that he's supposed to take some responsibility for his actions in this, not make himself look like a martyr sacrificing himself. He hasn't really gotten how he screwed up. He's going to need someone to spell it out for him in detail
@@seeleunit2000 maybe that's why I disliked him And he's jus gonna get babies up thru it "no prince you've done nothing wrong your daughter's jus unreasonable and you have trauma so it's okay
Do you even know what fanfiction is? Fanfiction is something created by fans of a certain show and what isn’t canon. The original show can’t be fanfiction lol. Also, it’s really easy to criticize something you’re watching for free 🤷🏼♀️
@@malkuusha ToT they're using the term as a comparison also people can have negative opinions, people can also enjoy a media and then get disappointed when the quality isn't what they expected. no one's saying the artists involved NEED to fix their show as if they're paying them, just that they'd prefer that. if your only defense for the quality of a show is "It's not technicalllyyy fanfiction" and "its free" then it's time to admit you enjoy something that others don't find well-written.
I feel bad for his daughter than anything else, just hope she's treated okay with Stella. And his song was so weak in this episode. I thought they would magick Stolas to the trial... it just didnt make sense. Did anyone else think Blitzo was pale in the past two episodes, instead of his vibrant red?
To clarify, I don't hate Stolas. I'm just criticizing him, and how he acts like he's never done anything wrong. Maybe now that he lost everything he can finally humble himself for once. Thanks for watching btw, it means a lot.
I just remembered that it was Stella that Hired Striker and not her brother....Why wasn't she questioned?...see the episode really falls apart if you really question the plot holes, hehehe.
They weren't going to give him a fair trial. Either stolas showed up and confessed and Andre got his power or blitz died and stolas was responsible for that that's why she wasn't required to show up.
@GasterTheMagician you'd think since Stolas was a Goetia Prince, and directly involved that he'd be summoned, if not by andre but by Satan. But I guess they needed the plot to work somehow
He said that he was speaking on behalf of he sister at the beginning, and the people voted to skip listening to hours of testimony. I really don't see how it's a plot hole when it shows you that nobody really cared to hear about to smaller details except for Vasago, Bee and Ozzy.
This vdo is so cute and funny. I love it and I have my criticism on Stolas, he's not perfect, he hurt Blitz, he hurt Via the thing is that none of it was intended. He really think he means well and he does and after all said and done he doesn't deserve what happened to him. I do feel sorry for him and I do worry about him, not sure when or how he's going to get better from this hole he's in now... He could've said Stella was trying to kill him, he could've told the truth. The problem is they didn't care and never wanted to listen. They wouldn't listen to Blitz, but, just maybe, if he'd told the truth they could have both got away with it alive. Maybe.
Well, it’s easy for us viewers to reason what should have been done. In Stolas’s situation, he accidentally saw how his loved one was about to be executed, so he rushed there to protect him without even a second to think what to do and what to say. He had no time at all to came up with a good line of defense so he just put all the blame upon himself. I think it’s pretty logical
@@malkuusha He could of said his Ex wife and her brother sent striker after him, He is a prince and Andre is just a marquis of the Ars Goetia, which is lower than stolas, so his word should be above Andre's. Also Where's Pimon in all this? I'd like to hope that they address this later, but they'll probably just move on and focus on Stolitz from here on, which is fine, it's probably going to be a point where I dip from the series. It's becoming too much like a Fanfiction for me. Hopefully I'm wrong though, I really wanna keep enjoying the series, but season 2 is kinda Meh so far in my opinion Ghost F'rs is the only interesting episodes in season Two. I know the Stolitz fans wanna keep going on this plot, but I'm just tired of episodes revolving around this toxic relationship. I want an episode of Blitz starting I.M.P and not just a blink and you'll miss it flashback, you know?
@@hootinthedark I'm a huge Stolitz fan so I can't agree, but, I do understand. There are so many other interesting things to explore besides Stolitz. Like Blitz and the Imps position in hell after this
5:47 Such a mood XD I seriously don't understand Stolas fans who take any kind of critique or more blunt opinion as hate You spoke my mind so much,I feel less crazy for thinking that actually Stolas ain't good [Tbh, I hate him to death as a character,but I can recognize he isn't totally bad,but more bad than good anyway..] I hate people saying that Blitz and Stolas are equally guilty Like hell no? Stolas had way more responsibility and full ass family with duties,while Blitzo is single dad with his own yet small business,and STOLAS agreed in the first place to this transactional bullshit,maybe it's not fully assault or smth like that to Blitz,but already fucked up start for good relationship dumb ass Vivz tries to push so hard on them And I swear,if Blitz was a woman,no any dumb fan would support and sugar coat Stolas so much,and see how gross he indeed acts,dirty talks even IN FRONT OF HIS OWN DAUGHTER! I swear everytine I hear that he is good dad,it sends me Not saying that Blitz is saint,but definitely not that fucked up Maybe Blitz had exes,so much people and so all,but in this particular situation he doesn't deserve so much shit Also I had trouble with the fact that Blitz immediately accepted Stolas after he sacrificed his everything to him,like... Dude you forgot all bs he did?Considering his character I would believe if he acted like "What the heck..wow... I still don't trust you enough because you were prick towards me.. And only then he slowly opens up and maybe they have any sort of normal interaction You know this ship was so doomed and downgraded that I don't even believe in any love interactions between them and it feels SOOO forced,and ruining Blitz's character Oh I wrote so much and thoughts all messy...
Ur so real for this take and I completely agree with you,this ship was so doomed the moment stolas talked blitz into having a transactional relationship😭
@Mei_jkou I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE AGREES TOO Because I'm not really from eng community of Heluva boss,I just now English very well And Ru community of this is literally doomed and full of idiots who seriously think that It's all equal fault and all worse bs
i like stolas generally because i can relate to what hes been thru being forced to be with someone who u dont want to who isnt even the gender u like and like that will mess u up bad and coming to terms with your own true desires can be intense after that much repression, but hes also character who chronically refuses to take responsibility for his own actions and that probably partially comes from his upbringing as a goetia never having to consider how his actions affect others which manifests in how he diminishes blitz even tho he clearly hates it, stolas just doesnt grasp what its like to be on the other end of that. but after mastermind its looking like now he finally will which is one of the reasons why i think this is the best thing that could happen to his character, he definitely deserves some narrative comeuppance after how he treated others, and tbh i never super cared about his character until mastermind and its the only thing that could redeem stolitz imo
Viv revealed that Stella didn't go because striker knew her so that's why she stayed with Octavia so she could keep Octavia from leaving her i understand your take but again this isn't the final season
I would never understand Stolas’s haters. Especially those who’re saying he hurt Blitz when Blitz was the one who was always talking sh*t about Stolas, even to his face.
He did hurt Blitz though, a good example being when he covered his face with the menu in shame when they were at Ozzie's. The unintentional(?) classist comments Stolas makes in Season q also hurt him. I say unintentional(?) since I'm pretty sure Stolas was just trying to be a flirt half the time, and was (mostly) before his minor character development. Respectfully, just cuz Blitz hurt him, doesn't mean Stolas didn't hurt Blitz back. I love both characters, I'm just giving some insight here. I'm pretty sure the major reason people hate Stolas is how impulsive of a character he is and how he didn't see his own faults when they had their fight, but Blitz is also incredibly impulsive and isn't the fastest at recognizing when he's wrong either 🤷
Also he treated his daughter weird Hiring his side chick jus so he could flirt w/him Infront his daughter who didn't even wanna go there and she was being more clear on that than anybody else would've lol And ik the EP tried to frame it as "lesson learnt" but idek if he did, he did leave Via for Blitz- thinking he'd kill himself for him too Some random imp & she'd probably think he don't care abt them cuz y'all saw the way he was squeezing the life out of his servant? Same episode where Stolas abandoned the star sighting thing w/ his daughter But this time cuz her mom sucks n it ain't his fault I blame the writers tryna make us think Stolas proved himself cuz in that episode is was hecking Loona then we never saw Via since- So ig the plot jus lets him get away with stuff and that annoys me
Also Stolas is rich n powerful and always dirty talked blitz it makes sense blitz feels annoyed by that and the dude's already immature & kinda dumb Man said "Stolas can get hurt??" 😭 But yes they do hurt each other it's a toxic ship-
Yikes. This is a horrible take.
That's fine if you think that, you have your opinions, and I respect that. Thanks for watching.
@@hootinthedark I disagree as well but I respect your calm and polite response to what was kinda just a rude unproductive comment tbh ( like if your gonna disagree with someone maybe actually state your reason as to why rather than just telling someone that their opinion sucks 😅😅) .
Even I didn't feel bad for Stolas, he needs to grow as a character and live up to his mistakes.
Blitzø was guilty of having the goetia and would still be killed so Stolas had to put all the blame on himself.
I find it ironic they clearly say in the episode Octavia isn’t old enough to inherit anything but on a previous episode her inheriting Stolas’ things in case he died was the sole reason Stella and Andy chose to spare him.
Right?
She's the cautionary heir. When she is old enough she's gonna get all his stuff. Just not right now. That's the point. She didn't inherit anything just yet.
@@seeleunit2000 Andre said “if he dies, his duties, his possessions, his legions will all go to Via”. It’s not implied it would be a future event. It’s pretty much treated as an inevitability in case Stolas dies. Had Stolas died in WE, what would’ve stopped them from arguing Via is too young to inherit and someone else had to take over in the meantime just like they did in Mastermind?
Andre was hoping they'd give him permanently all of his belongings vs the century we got. Who knows if the next court scene will be more about the power and title and legions and all that or not, assuming the supposed court scene in S3 is even there or about that.
finally we have a opinion take from another owl 😌
The reason he was acting like some big mastermind or whatever is probably because he thought that he was about to die so he wanted one big final song at least. I don’t think he actually thinks he’s a martyr for Blitz
Writing something complex as that is too difficult for Viv 😂
@@G.D.G. Fair 😭 even though i’m a fan of the show, sometimes i see the writing decisions and just roll my eyes.
That's the point. He doesn't get it that he's supposed to take some responsibility for his actions in this, not make himself look like a martyr sacrificing himself.
He hasn't really gotten how he screwed up. He's going to need someone to spell it out for him in detail
@@seeleunit2000 maybe that's why I disliked him
And he's jus gonna get babies up thru it "no prince you've done nothing wrong your daughter's jus unreasonable and you have trauma so it's okay
This show is just one big fanfiction at this point
If I wanted to watch fanfiction I would go to wattpad, and not this ;-;
Do you even know what fanfiction is? Fanfiction is something created by fans of a certain show and what isn’t canon. The original show can’t be fanfiction lol. Also, it’s really easy to criticize something you’re watching for free 🤷🏼♀️
@@malkuusha ToT they're using the term as a comparison also people can have negative opinions, people can also enjoy a media and then get disappointed when the quality isn't what they expected. no one's saying the artists involved NEED to fix their show as if they're paying them, just that they'd prefer that. if your only defense for the quality of a show is "It's not technicalllyyy fanfiction" and "its free" then it's time to admit you enjoy something that others don't find well-written.
I feel bad for his daughter than anything else, just hope she's treated okay with Stella.
And his song was so weak in this episode.
I thought they would magick Stolas to the trial... it just didnt make sense.
Did anyone else think Blitzo was pale in the past two episodes, instead of his vibrant red?
Stella will certainly be a horrible influence on Via
Might be the compositing for this episode, they really went all in for it. I think they outsourced some of the animation going by the credits.
4:00 omg your Striker impression is spot on
Why do i keep getting Stolas hate in my homepage i clearly love this character wtf
To clarify, I don't hate Stolas. I'm just criticizing him, and how he acts like he's never done anything wrong. Maybe now that he lost everything he can finally humble himself for once. Thanks for watching btw, it means a lot.
Moxxie is a baddie and I would smash.
Maybe cuz you keep commenting
I just remembered that it was Stella that Hired Striker and not her brother....Why wasn't she questioned?...see the episode really falls apart if you really question the plot holes, hehehe.
Thats true
God, THANK YOU. I love the world and a lot of the characters, but the plot holes are so massive Adam's ego could comfortably pass through
They weren't going to give him a fair trial. Either stolas showed up and confessed and Andre got his power or blitz died and stolas was responsible for that that's why she wasn't required to show up.
@GasterTheMagician you'd think since Stolas was a Goetia Prince, and directly involved that he'd be summoned, if not by andre but by Satan. But I guess they needed the plot to work somehow
He said that he was speaking on behalf of he sister at the beginning, and the people voted to skip listening to hours of testimony. I really don't see how it's a plot hole when it shows you that nobody really cared to hear about to smaller details except for Vasago, Bee and Ozzy.
This vdo is so cute and funny. I love it and I have my criticism on Stolas, he's not perfect, he hurt Blitz, he hurt Via the thing is that none of it was intended. He really think he means well and he does and after all said and done he doesn't deserve what happened to him. I do feel sorry for him and I do worry about him, not sure when or how he's going to get better from this hole he's in now...
He could've said Stella was trying to kill him, he could've told the truth. The problem is they didn't care and never wanted to listen. They wouldn't listen to Blitz, but, just maybe, if he'd told the truth they could have both got away with it alive. Maybe.
I guess they needed to get the plot to go where it is, and he wouldn't have lost his nobility and power if he did what he was supposed to lol
@hootinthedark That's their reason. What's Stolas' excuse? 😜😅
Well, it’s easy for us viewers to reason what should have been done. In Stolas’s situation, he accidentally saw how his loved one was about to be executed, so he rushed there to protect him without even a second to think what to do and what to say. He had no time at all to came up with a good line of defense so he just put all the blame upon himself. I think it’s pretty logical
@@malkuusha He could of said his Ex wife and her brother sent striker after him, He is a prince and Andre is just a marquis of the Ars Goetia, which is lower than stolas, so his word should be above Andre's.
Also Where's Pimon in all this? I'd like to hope that they address this later, but they'll probably just move on and focus on Stolitz from here on, which is fine, it's probably going to be a point where I dip from the series. It's becoming too much like a Fanfiction for me.
Hopefully I'm wrong though, I really wanna keep enjoying the series, but season 2 is kinda Meh so far in my opinion Ghost F'rs is the only interesting episodes in season Two. I know the Stolitz fans wanna keep going on this plot, but I'm just tired of episodes revolving around this toxic relationship. I want an episode of Blitz starting I.M.P and not just a blink and you'll miss it flashback, you know?
@@hootinthedark I'm a huge Stolitz fan so I can't agree, but, I do understand. There are so many other interesting things to explore besides Stolitz. Like Blitz and the Imps position in hell after this
5:47
Such a mood XD
I seriously don't understand Stolas fans who take any kind of critique or more blunt opinion as hate
You spoke my mind so much,I feel less crazy for thinking that actually Stolas ain't good
[Tbh, I hate him to death as a character,but I can recognize he isn't totally bad,but more bad than good anyway..]
I hate people saying that Blitz and Stolas are equally guilty
Like hell no?
Stolas had way more responsibility and full ass family with duties,while Blitzo is single dad with his own yet small business,and STOLAS agreed in the first place to this transactional bullshit,maybe it's not fully assault or smth like that to Blitz,but already fucked up start for good relationship dumb ass Vivz tries to push so hard on them
And I swear,if Blitz was a woman,no any dumb fan would support and sugar coat Stolas so much,and see how gross he indeed acts,dirty talks even IN FRONT OF HIS OWN DAUGHTER!
I swear everytine I hear that he is good dad,it sends me
Not saying that Blitz is saint,but definitely not that fucked up
Maybe Blitz had exes,so much people and so all,but in this particular situation he doesn't deserve so much shit
Also I had trouble with the fact that Blitz immediately accepted Stolas after he sacrificed his everything to him,like...
Dude you forgot all bs he did?Considering his character I would believe if he acted like "What the heck..wow...
I still don't trust you enough because you were prick towards me..
And only then he slowly opens up and maybe they have any sort of normal interaction
You know this ship was so doomed and downgraded that I don't even believe in any love interactions between them and it feels SOOO forced,and ruining Blitz's character
Oh I wrote so much and thoughts all messy...
It's all good, thanks for watching
Ur so real for this take and I completely agree with you,this ship was so doomed the moment stolas talked blitz into having a transactional relationship😭
@Mei_jkou I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE AGREES TOO
Because I'm not really from eng community of Heluva boss,I just now English very well
And Ru community of this is literally doomed and full of idiots who seriously think that It's all equal fault and all worse bs
i like stolas generally because i can relate to what hes been thru being forced to be with someone who u dont want to who isnt even the gender u like and like that will mess u up bad and coming to terms with your own true desires can be intense after that much repression, but hes also character who chronically refuses to take responsibility for his own actions and that probably partially comes from his upbringing as a goetia never having to consider how his actions affect others which manifests in how he diminishes blitz even tho he clearly hates it, stolas just doesnt grasp what its like to be on the other end of that. but after mastermind its looking like now he finally will which is one of the reasons why i think this is the best thing that could happen to his character, he definitely deserves some narrative comeuppance after how he treated others, and tbh i never super cared about his character until mastermind and its the only thing that could redeem stolitz imo
Viv revealed that Stella didn't go because striker knew her so that's why she stayed with Octavia so she could keep Octavia from leaving her i understand your take but again this isn't the final season
Dude that's weak.
I would never understand Stolas’s haters. Especially those who’re saying he hurt Blitz when Blitz was the one who was always talking sh*t about Stolas, even to his face.
He did hurt Blitz though, a good example being when he covered his face with the menu in shame when they were at Ozzie's. The unintentional(?) classist comments Stolas makes in Season q also hurt him. I say unintentional(?) since I'm pretty sure Stolas was just trying to be a flirt half the time, and was (mostly) before his minor character development.
Respectfully, just cuz Blitz hurt him, doesn't mean Stolas didn't hurt Blitz back. I love both characters, I'm just giving some insight here. I'm pretty sure the major reason people hate Stolas is how impulsive of a character he is and how he didn't see his own faults when they had their fight, but Blitz is also incredibly impulsive and isn't the fastest at recognizing when he's wrong either 🤷
Also he treated his daughter weird
Hiring his side chick jus so he could flirt w/him Infront his daughter who didn't even wanna go there and she was being more clear on that than anybody else would've lol
And ik the EP tried to frame it as "lesson learnt" but idek if he did, he did leave Via for Blitz- thinking he'd kill himself for him too
Some random imp & she'd probably think he don't care abt them cuz y'all saw the way he was squeezing the life out of his servant? Same episode where Stolas abandoned the star sighting thing w/ his daughter
But this time cuz her mom sucks n it ain't his fault
I blame the writers tryna make us think Stolas proved himself cuz in that episode is was hecking Loona then we never saw Via since-
So ig the plot jus lets him get away with stuff and that annoys me
Also Stolas is rich n powerful and always dirty talked blitz it makes sense blitz feels annoyed by that and the dude's already immature & kinda dumb
Man said "Stolas can get hurt??" 😭
But yes they do hurt each other it's a toxic ship-