Misunderstanding dopamine: Why the language of addiction matters | Cyrus McCandless | TEDxPortsmouth
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2018
- Dopamine is the star of our conversations about motivation and addiction. But journalists, marketers, and app developers alike have missed some critical details. Understanding how dopamine really works to motivate our everyday behaviors--and what goes wrong in drug addiction--is the key to more productive thinking about our 'bad habits,' as well as today's opioid crisis.
Since 1992, Dr. Cyrus H. McCandless has specialized in Neuroethology-the study of brain activity during natural behavior and stimulation-with a focus on motivation, goal-directed behavior, navigation and spatial orientation, psycholinguistics, behavioral economics, and decision-making. He's conducted extensive investigations of the networks underlying the structure and causes of behavior and cognition, from neurophysiological studies in awake behaving rats to non-invasive brain imaging in humans, and is the recipient of four competitive federal awards to support his research. Since 2007, he's led comprehensive, multimodal consumer research initiatives for more than 100 household names, and cutting-edge research into the neural bases of narrative comprehension and persuasion for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration (DARPA). Dr. McCandless holds a BA in Psychology from the University of Chicago, where he continued as a Graduate Student at Large prior to conducting primate research at The National Institutes of Health's Laboratory of Comparative Ethology. He earned his MS in Neuroscience and PhD in Neurobiology from the University of Pittsburgh, and Certification in Cognitive Neuroscience from the Center for the Neural Basis of Cognition; the National Science Foundation’s Center of Excellence at the University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University.
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Cyrus McCandless is a neurobiologist who studies brain activity with a focus on motivation, goal-directed behavior and decision-making. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
From a psychologist working with addicts: while not easy to understand, this is a hugely important talk that needs way more exposure.
I work in the field of chemical misuse and I agree the more educated addicts the less relapse
From an addict, excuse me, from a person who suffers from addiction, while not easy to understand, this is a very important talk that all people who suffer from addiction needs to hear. 7 years sober. Coming off opiates was the hardest thing I’ve ever experienced. The stigma around it makes it seem even more impossible. Even I still fall for the stigma. My opening line I corrected only bc I feel what I originally said keeps the stigma going. “You am not your addiction”. -Scott Corey aka best therapist I ever had and my teacher of stoic philosophy. Ty to anyone who helps us. Ty for helping.
I have goosebumps, I'm using but not strung out. I want to be done with alcohol.
I feel society needs to be more educated on addiction as well.
@@usmc72409 ❤️
This makes me infinitely prouder of anybody who beat a drug addiction or is even trying to.
Finally some uncommon sense. Thank you!
YES! We can NOT punish the pain out of people. It doesn't work. Thank you for speaking out. I shared this in my support groups today. Families need to understand this so they unlearn the stigmas that keep them angry and unforgiving of our loved ones who can NOT just stop. You explain it well. Thank you for all the work you do in this space.
so im addicted to meth. and as far as i know, im a good man at heart and im not a criminal but i am struggling. and have been for 15years. give this guy an award for stating the most important perspective on reality i live in. i dont want to be doing this to myself, but its still constant
As long as you keep your struggles as your own struggles and treat other people as they deserve irrespective of how you feel you are a good man. Addiction affects everyone differently and there is no easy way out, but as long as you treat others morally you are a good person.
I hope you found peace and recovery❤️
i hope you can find a way to recover ❤ I'll pray for you, just know you're not a failure and you can be healthy again ❤
Well said!
How are you doing now?
This was what I suspected and it's great to know the research backs it up. I was thinking about how people's reasons for taking substances can be very different, even for the same drugs, and I figured dopamine was involved. I've noticed some of my friends are sensation-seeking type people, and some are more sensation-avoiding. With ADHD and its improperly regulated dopamine, I find myself as the seeking type. My sister, however, is a long-term addict and sensation-avoiding (avoiding emotions, memories of trauma, etc.).
My mom has a misconception that my sister seeks drugs because they're pleasurable and buzzy, which causes her to grossly oversimply addiction. She can't understand how my sister can't stop, but what I've been trying to explain is that even though pleasure-seeking is how *we* experience drugs, people with hardcore addiction like my sister wouldn't uproot their whole lives if this was just about "liking" something. My observation is that most hardcore addicts have at least some aspect of self-medicating away unpleasant sensations, not just seeking buzzy ones.
Drug abusers use drugs as supplements. If you don't get enough sun, you take vitamin D. If you're chronically miserable, you take whatever drug alleviates that suffering.
What is addiction? Addiction is simply the habit of staying intoxicated, it's not a brain disease, it's not the addictive nature of some drugs, it's just a way to escape pain. It's easy for the public to understand chronic drug use when the wounds are physical but when the wounds are mental, it for some reason becomes puzzling to people.
Preaching abstinence, detox and rehab isn't going to help drug abusers get better, but working with them to improve their lives and tackle the source of their suffering will. The most promising help can be found in psychedelics, just make sure to do a little research beforehand.
@@steinarjonsson_ How about properly enforcing drug laws to deter people from using dangerous substances in the first place?
@Ryan 21 look at countries where users are killed in the streets for USING drugs and you will see even the threat of that punishment doesn't have the effect you seem to think it does.
@ryan 21 we have been punishing drug users for years it isn’t helping lol… in fact it is the opposite of what would be helpful to those people they need compassion and support. Addicts face extreme stigma and negativity from the population mostly because the population is uneducated on addiction.
@@HoratioKJV that's not gonna stop drugs from existing
"We" won't ever stop addiction. "We" don't want that. The only thing that matters is the money. Everything is aligned perfectly to continue chasing this goal. Good luck out there.
Yep
So enlightening. Thank you.
And such a better way of looking at addiction rather than the person is a failure, weak, and should be ashamed of themselves. Now if we could only change our judicial system to see addiction this way
People on drugs still do things they should be ashamed of.
@Depends on how you say it - yes, they do things they should be ashamed of. But put yourself in their position. Did u see the dopamine spike it causes compared to other things (alcohol, cheeseburger etc.). And thats just dopamine, let alone other hormones.
The truth is, most of us would behave that way if we were junkies. We all got our dark side, our shadow. Luckily, a lot of us dont experience the true magnitude of it.
@@ch1ch4r1t017 I don't need to imagine myself in the predicament of an addict. In 2001 I was in fact a crack addict.
Drugs or not. You're always the final word on the decisions you make, and if those decisions lead to behavior worthy of shame then so be it. Most addicts don't need more understanding, they need a greater willingness to take an honest look at what they've become.
@@TheRedverb I think showing understanding is not about showing personal understanding to them in person, rather when people discuss policymaking that affect society as a whole it's important to not think of people in terms of blame. At that level one must treat things as they are, even if we see things from more of a free will perspective in every day life.
Hey u got it.
1:55 - i am addicted to my phone, i also am severely addicted to alcohol. I was also addicted to nicotine. And i can confirm, drug addiction and phone addiction IS THE SAME THING. I can't control any of it, feel torture when abstaining, they use the SAME mechanism
Yes
"Addicts want the drug far more than you can ever want your Iphone or Facebook. It's not because they like the drugs it's because when they take those big doses of drugs ,those doses of drugs are teaching their brain to seek out more and more drugs no matter the cost"
Wanting vs liking explained perfectly and how wanting does not mean liking.
Imagine putting people in prison for being addicted to something.
Here in kuwait, you can get arested and give you 10 years sentense if they got you taking marijuana AT HOME!!. Even if you don't have much of it. But if that drug was meth it would be 1-2 years sentense. Laws are weird and stuipd
It doesn't make sense.
I'd like to hear more of this. I'm not saying I got a surprisingly good feeling from this and I want more of that feeling.
This was really interesting, there is still so much stigma around addiction that it makes it so much harder to get help, there's other people (random Karen's) who suddenly think it's in their place to tell you what a failure you are- just because you made a mistake.
Thank you for this piece of information! It helped me understand a little more my addiction. 🙏
Wow! No one wants to give up their phones! We’re all addicts! It’s like people who say coffee isn’t a drug. Every form of escapism triggers the same dopamine response in regular intervals.
this guys talk was made before people realized tiktoks way if media consumption would be the new way of absorbing content. brain rot🧟
after 3 decades as an addict who is finding freedom slowly but surely, I would rather say that it's both a moral and biological crisis at the same time
Why moral?
The human experience is wild. Truly excellent talk. Why don't more people know this? Guessing it's because of money one way or another... Addicts are easy to take advantage of and America loves that...
God bless you and people like you who are opening doors that will create real and lasting change for so many people who deserve a fair, fighting chance at life. Thank you so very much for your work.
Very concise and informational. The easy to understand visuals really leveraged the impact of his powerful points. Thank-you.
I love his structure of educating us, target audiences, with the lesson, however, his voice is so soothing it makes me sleepy.
I would like to start a conversation about the stigma surrounding prescribing stimulant medications to individuals suffering from Methamphetamine addiction, particularly those self-medicating ADHD symptoms. We have Methadone and Suboxone as medically assisted treatments, so why are we so opposed to prescribing Adderall to someone who needed it to begin with for their dopamine deficiency? I’ve seen countless lives ruined and I can’t help but wonder if a proper prescription would have helped wean them off this terribly addictive street drug.
I take meds for my ADHD, and if my doctor were to take my meds away it would be like taking a wheelchair away from someone and telling them to crawl.
1000%
Thank you for the enlightenment on that subject.
So liking the drugs has nothing to do with addiction. They want the drugs because the drugs condition the brain to want the drugs, by stimulating the reward centers, which reinforces the drug-seeking.
This guy gets it… if people only respected drugs for what they are, instead of treating “addicts” lk they are weak, understand how strong drugs are and how much your brain likes them. The first step is admitting you wouldn’t be able to hang if it happened to you…
I agree with the final thesis. “Addiction is not a moral problem but a biological one.” The issue is that many addicts act immorally. The two issues get confused
From my experience, if the immoral life suits the biological craving, it will be taken.
It's not that I don't see such things as immoral, it's just that we feel the need for a path to take our itching cravings (can't speak for all addicts here). Only after do we feel the moral implications of some of our actions and the stigma associated with them
Agreed--we have to recognize that addiction is far more than powerful enough to overcome our intrinsic moral motivations. The un-anticipatable consequences of repeated or chronic use of powerfully addictive drugs, specifically the dopaminergic drugs mentioned around 7:20, requires a measured amount of sympathy for the simple fact of loss of control over one's own behavior, moral decisions included, that afflicts the addicted. Of course, harmful behavior must still be constrained or prevented by whatever means might be necessary, but we need to remember that the cause of that behavior must be taken into account when considering 'punitive' measures vs. perhaps-more-humane measures that could be taken simply to prevent further harm to others.
This was incredibly insightful
Mental health is really misunderstood. Words like schizophrenia, addiction, crazy are all lazy words which perpetuate myths and dangerous misconceptions about real stuff.
In my opinion, things that secrete too much Dopamine include one of the following two factors:
1. Easy access
2. Quick rewards
Typical example: If you want to eat ice cream cake and your mother always buys ice cream for the refrigerator every day. You can easily enjoy ice cream and get rewarded with the delicious and cool feeling of an ice cream cone.
However, if you want to eat ice cream but the ice cream shop is 30 minutes walk away from your house. You won't eat ice cream anymore.
=> So, before you think about touching your phone instead of reading a book, remember: anything that takes time is useful, things that are quick will not stay in your mind.
Sorry for the grammar mistakes because I used Google translate
Writing my dissertation on social media 'addiction' and this has completely flipped my view and is incredibly enlightening. It's similar mechanics but at a completely different scale, would that be fair to say? Very helpful anyway, thanks for this.
Exactly. In fact, I presented not long after a social marketing exec who espoused the idea that they were tapping into the 'addictiveness' of social media; and my point here was, very directly, that there's no comparison... at all. -Cyrus
No it's not a different scale it's not addiction at all. Watch the video again
I’m writing an essay on why social media is bad basically and I came to this video for help and saw your comment lol
Electronic devices and social media are addictive. This video is old, and we have learned much since this was presented. Children play video games for hours and hours on end. It impacts their functioning with academics and overall health. Are their levels of addiction? Yes, obviously. However, it's the same desire to escape pain and feel instant gratification despite long-term impacts on functioning. Are the dopamine levels different for meth and IG,... of course. They can still be addictive. Food has 12 step programs and people eat themselves into an early grave. Small releases of dopamine consistently can have huge impacts on your physical and emotional health. Do not blindly listen to old tedtalks and discredit recent evidence to the contrary.
Electronic devices and social media are addictive. This video is old, and we have learned much since this was presented. Children play video games for hours and hours on end. It impacts their functioning with academics and overall health. Are their levels of addiction? Yes, obviously. However, it's the same desire to escape pain and feel instant gratification despite long-term impacts on functioning. Are the dopamine levels different for meth and IG,... of course. They can still be addictive. Food has 12 step programs and people eat themselves into an early grave. Small releases of dopamine consistently can have huge impacts on your physical and emotional health. Do not blindly listen to old tedtalks and discredit recent evidence to the contrary.
Addicted to smoking, cannabis, alcohol AND working out. Seems my brain is hard wired to dopamine.
We all are! It's just a question of how we get that dopamine...
This is what I've come to figure out. The drug is in control of the person. The person is not in control of the drug no matter what. It's the drug that over rides the common sense ability. It over rides the ability to care about their selves. We can see what they are doing to their selves because we have that ability to reason. Except how to keep them from using the drug.
Thank you!
People need more videos like this, journalists had been using the "dopamine" buzz word so much and writing while articles and blogs about topics regarding what they think dopamine is. Some people then believe these bloggers who do not fully understand these buzzwords and take their words as fact... People should be more concerned about spreading pseudoscience of they have a blog.
true
Most "science" is fake if you go do your own learning you will see things connect and make beautiful sense. The science we are fed are contradictory and yet we hold both idea's together and do not see they are contradictory. So strange to me.
i smoke 2 packs of cigs a day and lots of cannabis butter, and i was an alcoholic 15 years ago. with that said no one knows dopamine better than myself. when i don't have dopamine in my system i can barely even move
You are soooo right
So for every single thing we do on a daily basis the release of dopamine is very similar we can switch between those actions easily, all the actions fall very closely more or less than the same part of the spectrum whereas drugs and addictive substances are in the far end of the spectrum there's no other thing equally releasing dopamine so the switching becomes harder but not impossible with support.
This explains a lot.
Great talk
I should have found this sooner, it suprisingly more helpful than those high viewed advice
Thank you... I'm recovering opiate addict this explains how my brain was working... I wanted that opiate over food water shelter that's not just liking something... Who would choose video games over somewhere to live?
Wild Edibles I think current video games are highly addictive although I’m pretty sure not at the same level as heroine. I know people who lost friends, career, money and other things over some of the current games which are specifically designed to keep you hooked 24/7.
I would agree... If your loosing things or people you really care about over wanting a video game would also be an addiction... I got help for my opiate addiction b4 I died or ended up in jail.. I'm lucky I had the resources to help find out what's my whole health plan could be if I got the courage to try... Get up and not feed that addiction you wake up wanting it right away b4 anything else... You get dressed walk 20 mins in 40below weather to satisfy a craving... No so your not in so much pain you don't want to face life.... I can understand the addiction to video games but it's just not the same sometimes
Wild Edibles wow that’s so intense. I’ve never gotten there luckily but I have relatives who have. I congratulate you for being able to get out of that mess.
Thank you it's a new struggle every day I was ready to quit but could not do it on my own...
Wild Edibles I bet. Don’t give up. I recently stopped drinking for good. I tried many times before and failed but I finally figured that in order to have an effective change I had to get rid of all the negative people in my life and replace them with positive loving people. I hope you are doing the same. The quality of the people who surround I have a big impact on the quality of your life. 🙏
Shoutout to the intro graphics.
simply explained
“You still have control over your own decisions or behavior” as someone with ADHD I disagree. It feels like I can get addicted to anything. Take the people on the show my 600 lb life for example, these people are killing themselves with food, yet they don’t stop eating cheeseburgers because they are addicted.
I agree. I think i have ADHD also but doctors are too busy to deal with me these days
As someone being treated for ADHD I agree with your point. I get attached to things too quickly and obsess non stop which is known as hyper focused. It’s a struggle but this makes total sense.
Agreed on the latter point, but not the first. People with food (and other 'normal' reward-related) addictions may have disordered reinforcement-related brain circuits, and so they may really be addicted in the same way as drug addicts, but with a different underlying etiology ("etiology" meaning the cause of a disease). By contrast, ADHD is not associated with 'addictive behavior' across the board. It's entirely possible to have ADHD and also be particularly susceptible to addictive behaviors in relation to other things/activities, but it's also possible to have ADHD without any particular susceptibility to other 'addiction-like' behaviors. These syndromes are not directly responsible for one another, nor do they always occur together. It's more complicated than anything I could squeeze into a 12 minute presentation, of course, but it isn't impossible to understand. I wish you well, friend!
He is discouraging me... According to him you cannot overcome any addiction
False. You can, but don't expect it to be easy (at least when it comes to high doses of addictive drugs--many of these drugs have very legitimate uses in medicine, at reasonable (typically much lower) dosages, and in my opinion there is no reason to restrict properly-considered, appropriate medical uses of these same drugs for severe pain, ADD, depression, etc.). If your addiction is to something other than dopaminergic drugs, which produce far higher levels of dopamine than any 'natural' reward possibly can, then your problem isn't anywhere near as severe, and recovery will be much easier for you. -Cyrus
Dopamine addiction = food, phone, drug addiction = whole other different category,,,
I love science so much, i cant believe research able to found this things , it is make sense now
Anak Reformed you are foolish
it helps alot
thanks
So how would you solve this issue? Reinforce normal behaviors by scheduling a productive routine that encourages the body and mind to seek out food and working out in place of the drug? I often use coffee and sometimes 1mg of nicotine and I’m not sure if I’m addicted but it’s certainly helped me to reinforce better habits such a social connections and motivation. I don’t know if I an addiction or if I’m just using therapeutic doses of both substances to feel slightly better
I smoke weed everyday, and the rare, few times where I wanted to, like you said, reinforce the behavior by scheduling it. I find myself breaking the schedule every time. Which ultimately makes me feel defeated, now that i’m a couple days sober.
Holy just lookd for this bec. Of reddit. This should be more popular
So very very interesting, and thank you.
I have for several years now entertained the idea that somehow, addiction and it's most current model of understanding is the disease based model.
Wasn't telling the entire story. And I fully believe that it is a challenge to not only the Brain (Body) but to our minds and spirits as well.
I have several decades of experience with substance abuse, it's something that I have struggled with much.
I have also had many successes and achieved a few things. I wouldn't however be as bold as to say I was a case of being a "functioning addict"
And after watching this I believe that you have shone a light on some of the ???? areas.
I see now that and I still do do to some extent which is seek the softer easier way to solve problems. To move through life in general. In relationships.
All areas have been either attempted and passed partially. Solved or completed. Or if I found it not to my liking or too difficult, I simply avoided it or didn't participate, even to the extent of rewriting the existence or the value of such a thing into my belief system...
So thank you, I am on a new journey and this includes along with the abstinence from mood or mind altering substances.
A regimen of not exactly hard or entirely hugely lofty goals. But certainly putting a much increased level of exertion in to things that I have bypassed or that I have felt I may have disliked before. I an attempt to use this information you have graciously shared, to somehow integrate this aspect of addiction into a program of some sort in an effort to assist other recovering addicts to alleviate their suffering.
I feel slightly more at ease to go through the difficult and seemingly random cravings, already, just knowing that this may have been set up chemically in my brain and that, along with my own personal experience, they do pass and that my life IS far better lived without the use of drugs...
What about taking l tyrosine? I suffer from bipolar and no medicine has helped for motivation at all. I’m 48. Had this since 17. Been through every med you can possibly imagine except stimulants which my doc says wouldn’t help anyway. I say “all” meds like Lithium (burnt out my kidneys) Lamictal (which I take now since 17) and have tried all SSRI’s, SNRI’s, Bupropion, Wellbutrin, Geodon and their same types, and maybe some others. (No tricyclics-never suggested) I’m so sick of the non motivation/depression, mostly non motivation I could just die. Caffeine is the only thing that helps. But can’t do so much or sleep is hard, muscle twitches w high doses too. I hear L-Tyrosine helps for motivation????? Increases Dopamine???? Appreciate insight here!!
I’m eating a cheeseburger as I watch this
Very soon you will be addicted to it, please don't misunderstand me.
measure the dopamine spikes of a video game playing World of Warcraft Classic, finding better items while leveling and from a raid. would be interesting to see how it fits on the graph.
just wow
This talk made me realize that I really want a cheeseburger right now
edit: seriously this is a great talk though. Very insightful
Wait until you get pd.I wonder what the story will be then?
God help 🙏
I think it is like the ( DMU ) Law of Economics - Diminishing Marginal Utility
Do endorphins reduce stress and anxiety tolerance?
I get big headaches if a don't masterbate enough or don't get happy.
I don't have an urge to do much of that when I feel good. When I'm not stressed. It's tough for me to deal with tough situations.
I don't even know if I'm addicted or not
You are
Ah this explains organisms perfectly
The human brain is so weird. It's hard to be a human.
Exactly
The human concept is a tragedy.
Any suggestions? Lol
Stop trying.
Are you serious? try being a cat someday
One word: "Cheeseburger"
Bhai bolte boltee
but isn't reinforcement go on even for predicted rewards? i mean, it this is basically what "reinforcement" mean, right? but besides that, it makes sense statistically
It does, but in declining degrees, until the new behavior is fully established. If a 'reward' is 100% predicted, then dopamine does not respond. Anything more (surprising) or less (disappointing) provokes an increase or decrease in dopamine release, respectively. The important thing is that "reinforcement" and "reward" are very different words, with very different meanings. "Reward" refers to a subjective experience, whereas "reinforcement" refers to an observed behavioral phenomenon. "Reinforcement" means, simply, that the outcome of a behavior increases the probability that that behavior will occur again in the future. Nothing more; nothing less. That's the real, objective statistical view. There's no *subjective* emotional experience or awareness of one's own motivational state implied by the definition of "reinforcement"--reinforcement and reward are in fact independent processes. That's exactly the disconnect in 'common-sense' thinking about "why we do what we do" that I'm attempting to shine a light on here.
Where would I find the unedited full video?
Addiction is NOT a moral crisis but a BIOLOGICAL one.....wow
YAS
An unexpected cheeseburger gives you dopamine
I guess I'm able to theories that it's possible to make your dopamine tolerance so low that you could get yourself addicted to any lifestyle you'd want
What about antidepressants?
People in the audience would have definitely bought cheeseburgers after this show
I have a question, the dopamine is only creating anticipation of pleasure and not on consumption of the substance but than what is creating the next craving, what is keeping the loop from not going extinct?
Is the dopamine anticipation from previous drug use, creating the next instance of drug use and keeping the addiction loop alive?
its other harmones...
I could be wrong but it seems that operating with high levels of dopamine helps with manifesting
Addiction also have EPIGENETIC factor needing some long reprogramming. Hard but possible.
🤷🏼♀️ So how do we fix it??
Drug rehabilitation centre, I suppose?
Letisia Andablo he said a sophisticated answer was needed, meaning one should use the knowledge presented to understand and counteract drug abuse,
In his main message he states that drug addiction prevention and rehabilitation is connected to a moral viewpoint and judgement of an individual, prone to drug abuse, whereas the truth is that it is a biological fault which cannot be connected to the human.( obviously I feel it differs from person to person, but I agree on the point that a preassumed negative opinion based on a societarian social standpoint, is wrong)
WTF???
Will power. Everything else is a gimmick.
dopamine detox
Does dopamine ever fix itself? How long until it does?
Our body is a powerful machine. Everything does fix itself
dopmine detox look it up
Natural dopamine in your brain fixes itself meth addiction your brain is powerless to fix it,,,
I might be missing some insight from this talk because it seemed like he just said the most obvious things about addiction. Maybe these are just things which elude normal folk yet are axiomatic for me after decades of poly-drug addiction though tbf.
Yes that's the idea behind the talk. Most people will never understand addiction yet they go about acting as judge, jury, and executioner as if they did
my grand papa isnt a dopamine junkie and isnt unsucessfull at succeeding in what he needs. its just called depression when you let go your brain and it take control over you.
I’m trying to come off a 10 year daily oxy habit of 100mg+ a day
I’m on day two and can’t move oh man everything hurts
Keep going! It will get easier the longer you go, but you will need your self control, and need to think about what you're doing, for a longer time than you might subjectively feel is necessary. Staying away from whatever aspects of your environment that might be associated with using, as much as possible and for as long as possible, will be helpful. The research tells us very clearly that a simple change of context (i.e. your everyday physical and social surroundings) is one of the most powerful mechanisms for preventing relapse. Whenever possible, take a trusted never-/non-user friend with you when you need to visit a place where you've obtained or used in the past. If you used at home, consider making some changes to your home's internal/external appearance--whatever changes you can make, even if it means just moving the furniture around, will minimize environmental cues or 'constellations of cues' that could trigger cravings/seeking behaviors. It will take time, but you'll be better off in the end, and you will be able to enjoy everyday life again, as much as you did before. I wish you well. -Cyrus
You got this. I’ve been there many times. Stay strong. This is the time you beat this monster.
meanwhile I want a hot pot now. Liking and wanting.
Meanwhile i get this cold sensation ill nevr be happy again
Now I want not only a cheeseburger but drugs too😤
Same want to feel it
This guy sounds like Joe Pera.
Our brains tell us we need something to feel better so severe that its torture mentally and physically we will do anything to get releif! U can put us in jail and when we get out the symptoms will still be there! Why casey law doesnt work! And why love compassion and empathy does! Support and educate yourselves and stop playing the victim if a addict offended you!
Joe Perra talks to you about addiction.
McDonald’s is where I learned that food poisoning sucks.
getting a cheeseburger after this 🍔
I’m not sure he gives the cheeseburger enough credit…I would say cooked food is maybe the most powerful ubiquitous drug. I’m sure that sounds crazy to anyone not familiar with the book 80/10/10 Read it to learn more.
I'm not sure if it's me, but the editing makes this really hard to watch (the camera switches where it makes it seem like they've cut out things?)
My bad. I took about 15mins, and spoke too-slowly. They cut out very little, and nothing of meaning other than me repeating myself for emphasis. I hope this sped-up version is still helpful. -Cyrus
How can get morphine, i don't know any supplier near my home
Literally might go to McDonald's for Borger now
Me too. I'm also craving a double Cheese Booger from Mcdonalds. The more snooty the better. Is there a 12 step mucus-eater anonymous program?
Borger
🐑
Kiechi Morisato Jello Pamine = 🐑
Ive got a spicy mcchicken on my mind
There has to be more to addiction than this. I don't think this man has ever worked with food addicts lol
humans desire to flee reality is a huge part of the problem. Drug addiction and any other 'addiction' might be a moral problem if we consider that first month of usage- before the real addiction.lack of control sets in. We also need to teach Positive Rebellion' in schools so that teens can feel a sense of control over their world.
@Curtis Singletary I believe that has been the prevailing belief, but like the war on drugs, it hasn't brought about a reversal in obesity. What is the point of condemning someone as weak? Frankly idc if it's moral or biological or spiritual or pharmaceutical, as long as our understanding leads to solutions that are practical and effective in bringing people back to health. Health results from seeing food as a source of nutrition instead of pleasure that acts as a temporary emotional band aid.
Yeah, this guy doesn't understand the nature of addiction.
Lechsi Z what do you call reality? Stressful situations? Grief? Heavy anxiety? PTSD? This is what drug addicts and food addicts and anything in between seek to escape from. It’s a way to cope with heavy stress. I don’t know what position you’re taking but when you say “escape from reality” it could mean a number of things but it sounds to me like you’re gloating that you’re not one of the “weak” humans and think that people get bored and go on heavy drug binges and ruin their life out of boredom. I don’t think you understand
Curtis Singletary then you misunderstand addiction. Addiction is quite literally lack of impulse control combined with a bad coping mechanism . I see why you differentiate between food and drugs because there’s a clear difference but food releases dopamine and you should know that because of association that anything even if it doesn’t release dopamine can become a coping mechanism
A question: how does dopamine (or the body part that releases it) know what we / the person find(s) enjoyable or good? What is assessing this?
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What about antipsychotics?
Should music have a big role to making dopamine?
A cheese burger has never been a turn on for me,
Stimulating dopamine fast and easy with at least 30% in less than 30 minutes
1. Pick your current level of dopamine, from 1 to 10 (Eg: 3)
2. Make a list of 3 to 5 activities that you are most passionate or interested on
3. Pick one that is easiest and fastest to do (30 minutes, at most)
4. Do it ASAP
5. Observe your current level of dopamine and write it down.
Does it have at least 3 more points than the previous? (Eg if before it was 3, now it should be least 6)
#5 is problematic. How can you tell?
True its totally ignored or strawmanned by people dont caring if it does not affect ther healthy lifestyle 0 compassion just more violence as a solution. I mean psychaitry finetuning/tiltration is terrible and drugs are just taken for selfmedication and taking them away might make things worse for some (speculation) which would make it even more ironic
Is that Mr. Robot?
😂😂
I really want a big surprise.
Oh my god the jump cuts were annoying