Janeway Class - Detailed Look (Voyager J) (Disc/STO)
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All the decks without windows are probably the massive void that turbolifts travel through.
That was really stupid all the wasted space on Discovery for turbo-lifts.
Putins Cat
It is not a waste of space. The "voids" are where they store the lensflare. Using it for turbolift shafts is actually pretty efficient.
@@schwarzerritter5724 The idea is not that every person on the ship gets a personal lift. While the lifts can go up and down and sideways, they were still restricted to defined shafts, and not floating is ridiculous amounts of dead space. And Discovery was still an older model ship. No matter what upgrades they have in the new time.
God I hope they retcon that shiz
Exactly! :D
When it splits into two ships they should get one nacelle each
Agree! They would look like tail fins and I would not mind that at all.
give this man a bottle opener
Did not knew you were a Star Trek fan. Hahaha know you from Rainbow Six News from your channel
Damn, I was just going to post this. One nacelle for each hull - or if the one hull is being left behind due to damage, both nacelles can go with either hull.
lets not think too simple here, they probably just replicate new nacelles for the vectorassault
Thomas Marrone gave an interesting fan theory for the bottle opener section. He said that perhaps if the ship needed more shuttles than it could carry for some reason, that ring was actually some kind of replicator that would create shuttles from programmable matter and then the occupants could just site-to-site beam directly to it whenever it was finished and use it like any other shuttle.
Pull my hull baby!
That's just crazy enough to work.
Since Discovery has a pair of these openings after her 32nd century refit, we may well see what they're for at some point in the next season. I really like this idea and hope that's what they go with.
Of course, it's nothing new. Voyager obviously had a shuttlecraft replicator when she was lost in the Delta Quadrant, since they destroyed something like 17 shuttles over the show's run, and built not one, but two Delta Flyers.
Well it’d go well with the thousand shuttles Voyager managed to recreate. I swear that ship was part Tardis, it’s the only way it could hold them all, that and the photon torpedoes. “It, it’s bigger on the inside”
Or they have hard light ships kind lie a mobile holodeck
It's depends on ship size and types, shuttles and "site to site beam" could be designed into 32nd century starfleets, but variant ships needn't too much.
7:40 - You need to have markings on everything when your ship is 4 separate pieces. "Hey, that's my nacelle."
Who's that Pokémon??!!! It's Porygon LMAO oops wrong show
There's nothing wrong with the design itself, and there's enough space magic in ST that a permanent magnetic field isn't too far fetched; what it comes down to is that the design takes away an iconic part of Fed design (struts) whilst adding absolutely nothing and reminding us more of a Prometheus than an Intrepid.
couldn't have said it better
Space magic is irrelevant. It's a logistical problem. How the fuck do you get from one section to the other? Transporters? What a moronic waste. A ship with equally advanced tech, without those features, would absolutely destroy this piece of shit. Whoever designed this should be publicly beaten.
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I don't even give a shit about Trek, these kinds of features are retarded on ANY ship in any franchise.
A weapon can easily be designed to disrupt permanent magnetic fields in Trek. The D-7 even had a magnetic pulse weapon that damaged the Enterprise. Disrupting and firing magnetic fields is simple, especially in the far far future. A magnetic weapon would make the ship destroy its self.
But what is the point to a design like this? Why make a ship like this? What advantage does a ship with individual sections held together by an apparent magnetic field have? It doesn't make sense. Each separate part would need to have its own power source..
Honestly, I don't think this ship would be very practical. 4 individual hulls/modules held together by what I assume is either magnetic or graviton technology, opposed to being built all together as one piece. The ship would need space at appropriate points for the graviton/magnetic generators. Each individual section would need its own power source as they're not connected. It also begs the question; why? What is the purpose of this design? What advantage is there to having 4 independent sections held together as one ship? Other then it's cool looking, why have a ship like this?
It also bears a lot of problems; The power necessary for this to work would likely be high and seemingly pointless. Why have all that energy put to holding the ship together when you could just build the ship as a single piece, and use all that energy for more practical purposes.
What if there's a power failure? The 4 individual sections would just drift apart.
The crew would need to rely on Transporters to travel between the different sections, which would use even more energy.
If the Nacelles are not physically connected to the rest of the ship, how do they get the Massive amounts of Energy from the Warp Core to make Warp Drive work? They would have to have their own power source for that reason, not to mention the technology and power needed to hold it in place.. doesn't make sense.
Also; if the later is true, and the nacelles have their own power source for Warp, what is the point of even having an Engineering Hull?
But if the Warp Core is in the engineering hull, and there is some kind of power transfer system between the Core and the two separate Nacelles, that would require the technology to make that possible; like the space needed for the devices themselves, and the energy needed to power those devices. Why not just physically connect the Nacelles to the Engineering Hull, and you can avoid this problem all together.
Further, the Energy transfer system needed to send energy from the Warp Core to the Nacelles, would also have to have a device stored in the Nacelles themselves to receive the energy. This would necessitate a massive power requirement too. So in either scenario, the Nacelles would have to have their own Power Source. All of this complication could be easily avoided by just building the ship together as a single piece, rather then 4 separate pieces.
But even if you could explain away ALL of the points I just made through even the most out there Science Fiction anyone could come up with, it still begs the question; what is the point? Why does a ship need to have 4 unconnected sections at all times? What is the Advantage opposed to a single ship?
So given all of that, I don't believe there is a practical point to this ship's 4 separate modular design. It creates too many complications, and offers no real advantage.
All I'm saying is that most of Kutsman trek is not my cup of tea.
Crew would have to beam from one detached section to another, routinely. You'd think transporter tech would fail some small percentage of time at least, and discourage casual use.
I'm sorry, but I can't imagine that thing in combat. "Captain, we've lost main power. And the nacelles. And the secondary hull ...."
@PurpleOwlAnimation yes, plot armor.
@PurpleOwlAnimation Producers: It works because we say it works, just look at the flashy scenes and don't think too much about it! Who's a good fan, yes you are!
Personal Transporters are integrated into their combadges at this time.
@@stryletz yeah that's how star trek has always worked Dilithium works because the writers say it does.
I do not like the disconnecting look.
I'm guessing, when they design these ships they were inspired by the movie Jupiter Ascending.
I make no scientific sense. Like none of these new ship designs do.
I don't like it at all! There should in my opinion be physical conections between every part of the ship!
I agree
couldnt agree more... just think about what would happen when the ship would lost power to hold the connection....
@@Annishark Maybe they go flying, just like rocks do in the 24th century.
I cant get my head around this detached ship pieces philosophy, Im all on for advancement, but this plain dumb, its like a sea ship with a detached propller, and whats worse is that this ship would actully look alot better with nacelle struts and a section attaching the primary hull,
wonder how they'll explain it. maybe there are physical connections between each part, but the physical connections are just phased under normal operations.
Programmable matter seems like quantum plot armor
The one I don’t like about this ship is the detached nacelles and primary hull
I like the VOY-J design. I just don't agree with the idea of detached ship sections!
Looks more like the ship from the movie 'Flight of the Navigator' when looking at it front and back.
This ship looks like a keychain.
And a bottle opener in the rear looped shuttle bay shape. Bottle opener for that big alien arm holding the TOS enterprise...’Who Mourns for Adoinois’??
It does look like a bottle opener. And Morn sits in Quarks Bar and Mourns for Adonais. Hey, I just realized Morn is Norm backwards. Must be a Cheers reference!
@@murrynathan Took you long enough.🙄🤦♂️😖😝🤣😂🤣😂 Guy was a literal chatterbox (Though never heard his voice on camera).
When on about a second deflector I take it as the blue light on the saucer is the second deflector
I hate how Discovery is so dark I can't see the ships in detail.
Back when I tired to watch it I was like the whole show is dark. Like turn on a light or adjust the camera lighting. Even the space scenes are too dark.
Maybe it's not a bridge window, maybe it's the second deflector that Cmdr. Cockings was talking about.
I've been recreating Voyager J for the last week in Space Engineers, and have only had the 3 showcase videos of the ship in STO for references. I'm glad to have some proper front, back, top, and side views.
How do you plan on doing the connections between nacelles and hull segments?🤔 Are you just going to fudge it and build normal strut connections, or maybe use window blocks. I'd like to see what you eventually come up with, are you going to post any screenshots to Steam?🤔
@@STSWB5SG1FAN Hi, thanks for taking interest and commenting! I'm actually done Voyager J in Space Engineers and it's available now on mod.io. I'm the first person to ever build her aside from the few people who maded 3D models of her. Here is my showcase of the build: ua-cam.com/video/VnOpbz4dVPY/v-deo.html
Good show Trekyards!
Still not really into the ‘Jupiter Rising’ starship design style for StarTrek despite it being far into the future.... Guess my biggest question would be why, what advantages these gaps gives? How crew get atround? Etc.
easy to replace? and the pylons were always weak points
A Connie homage with no neck or pylons would look ridiculous....
Fact.
@PurpleOwlAnimation Just imagine the original Enterprise with nothing connecting the warp nacelles.
Perfect, I couldnt have put it better.
It looks like the bastard love child of the Prometheus and a goa'uld mothership.
The saucer shape does remind me of Goa'uld Al'kesh if CBS gutted it out and flattened it with horrible low poly count and missing textures.
Looking forward to seeing these future designs fleshed out.
I like the idea of a Voyager J, but if the parts aren't going to be attached, they should do like Species 8472 and just have small individual ships that can share energy.
Really tired of the detach nacelles as some kind of advancement. Seaquest did a much better job of having satellites around the main ship and that was a submarine from 2030s. The transitions from Ent-NX thru Ent-F (I reject the universe class) are non-linear they don't look like each other at all. Why did they even bother stylistically try to make Voy-J look like Voy-prime, that looks like more like Prometheus half child.
Well we don't know how much the enterprise design changed between F and J.
@@DancingRasputin "as proven in the Discovery season finale the detached nacelles are not actually detached"
but they flat out said they were detached.
"they only appear that way due to the pylons being invisible "
what?
"Voyager J actually IS Janeway’s Voyager massively overhauled & updated"
Nope. It wouldn't have a letter. And that Voyager became a museum artifact. It wouldn't even be safe to use it for travel, she got totalled and rebuilt so many times in the Delta quadrant she'd be considered a lemon.
The Janeway class when they take the damn saucer seperation way to damn far
Really enjoy the look of the ship
The saucer underside structural delta in combination with the centre bump actually minds me of the Trekyards Delta. Yay!
As someone who has the Janeway class on my Trek Sci Joined Trill toon, yes the nacelles go up when it goes to warp (like the Intrepid class does)
So discovery's nacelles reattach before they go to warp, I'm assuming this ship recombines too before warping? Or are they saying discovery has to due to being an older ship refit to new standards
I hope it’s because it’s older
it doesnt make any sense since that the time they use the nacells... Whats the point of detach inactive shipparts ?
@@Annishark i know right? I really hope that they do have a meaningful purpose. If you think about it, detached nacelles during warp would mean variable warp geometry gone apeshit :DDD
I love the ship, the only thing that I really mind is...
WHERE’S THE IMPULSE ENGINES?!
(I know that maybe in such far future they must/may have different propulsion systems, but it’s just weird to me)
It’s possible that this far into the future, impulse engines are integrated into the warp nacelles. That’s my theory at least
They're actually just under the back of the saucer . They images the guys showed sadly weren't coloured well to show them
I believe that the future engines are a lot more sensitive and can be controlled for slower than light speed.
Best looking bottle opener I have seen 😜🖖
Maintenance on the nacelles and throughout the ship could be via holograms, particle synthesis, subspace communication, transport/teleportation and even portals that allow access between disparate disconnected sections of the ship. As others have said it seems each part of the ship could easily act as it's own vessel in an emergency.
People may call me a fake fan for this but I love this ship. I love how the tech is so freaking advanced as to be nearly magic to us because tech that's over 1000 years more advanced than anything we have now would be damn near magic from our perspective. Honestly the jump to the far futire rekindled my love for star trek more than anything else made in the modern era and I can't wait to see what comes next.
I have seen the shea walker design which looks good from Quantum Designs Az. Slightly different. I agree it does look like a bottle opener. But a nice Star Trek bottle opener none the less.
The Enterprise J looks more advanced than this
Connecting the nacelles with, even a thin set of structurally sound and sensible pylons, would make the ship look even better.
Nothing about any pylon in any trek ship has ever been structurally sound and sensible.
They only exist to provide conduits to the related parts and to keep the ship from drifting apart when the power is down.
We see in the show that the materials used are not unreasonably strong and we also see ships massing millions of tons pulling hundreds of Gees.
The only rational thing to conclude is these ships are only held together during normal operation by their network of shields and fields. With the structure of the ship hardly playing a role.
@@DrewLSsix And yet, EVERY ship in Star Trek that uses detached nacelles, uses pylons, from pre-Kirk era to Enterprise-J. I would call that "structurally sound and sensible. " I wanna be shown something rational and sound that defends not having to have pylons. How does power get to/from the nacelles? How is it not visible? Is it cloaked? They why JUST cloak the pylons. It's ridiculous. There's no justification for it at all. And "coolness"alone is not a justification for something..
Besides the nacelles moving when the ship goes on warp, in the released videos of the ship jumping to warp the saucer and bottom hull also seem to merge together or come closer, in order (maybe) to allow the moving nacelles to come completely over the saucer level when at warp.
My reaction from seeing the front and back view was the Cylon basestar from the original Battlestar Galactica
The neck should be attached to. Just make it unattached like the Enterprise D.
I think the voyager J is one design where floating nacelles work, especially if they do the same raise and tilt thing the old voyager did.
although I'd have pushed the saucer and secondary hull together(no neck, just glued together as-is)
i know i have to accept it, because that's how it is... but still don't see the advantage of transparent nacelle struts
no you do not "have to" accept it, you can simply reject and ignore it.
“Transparent aluminum?”
“That’s the ticket laddy.”
The nacelles folding up, the same as voyager is as much a technical decision as an aesthetic one, as i understand it (the underlying skeleton rig is the Intrepid that they use for all the variants, and the nacelle animation is hardwired in, I seem to recall)
Voyagers moveable Warp Nacelles was a feature, it was on purpose, it allowed variable warp geometry, they could vary it and change the warp bubble dynamics with the angle of the warp nacelles.
Exactly
When I saw the front and back shots of the ship, I lost it hahahahahaha
I'd prefer ring based warp drives or fully integrated designs as opposed to floaty bits.
Ain't a Janeway-class if it doesn't have a coffee, black. machine for every crew
Love the ship, dislike the overuse of aztecing. Ships of this era are supposed to be brighter and smoother. They are not supposed to look like they are built from tritanium panels.
the axtecing is symetrical, the same on the left and right side. So it's not random. So probalby some function behind?
@@lubricustheslippery5028 It's habit more than function. STO usually goes crazy on aztecing. Probably easier for gameplay that way. But that and the dark shading makes it look 25th century instead of 32nd.
If you enter the right command it transforms into a giant cleaning lady ;)
I hope the Federation has the ability to go to plaid by that era. Then this Voyager can get home quicker if something goes wrong
the design is "ok" i like that the grey on the saucer is broken up by all the brown details and aztecing on the hull plates, and that the inner edge of the nacelles follows the same line as the secondary hull's outer edge rather than just having standard oblong tubes.
From the front it reminds me of the ship from flight of the navigator
Compliance!
Plot twist, The small area in the underside of the saucer is actually the bridge and the thing with the bridge window is an aero shuttle and the glowy bit is its deflector.
Kidding aside there is a lot to like and a lot to not here. My primary complaint is that the secondary hull is way too wide. It makes the portrait view of the ship look like a geometric blob. It should have been about half as wide as the primary hull saucer to create size disparity. It technically may be but the placement of the nacelles makes it look like its all one piece.
If you use aztecing as a rough guide it appears like theres about 14 decks in the secondary hull and about 11 in the primary. So just rough guestimate is the ship is about 25-30 decks. Seems like a reasonable increase of size from Voyagers 15 deck model.
I'd love to see an Excelsior-type neck on this design !
You what's kinda funny the hull plating reminds me of the mako's camo pattern from Enterprise
It is most definitely a secondary deflector array and not a massive bridge window. It's obvious since it shares the same colour palette as the primary deflector array, it's not the same dull white as other deck windows.
Perhaps the Voyager J is the most advanced ship that Starfleet last produced and they had developed inertialess drive units which negated the need for impulse drives.
Similar vibes as the Soulwolf Class that was a mod ship from ST Bridge Commander as future Enterprise F
I would expect that many resources and features are probably generated on demand. We don't see phaser strips because they only exist when needed.
It's not great. I kind of like the front view, but it's crazy that the nacelles aren't just a little bit higher to take advantage of line-of-sight. It would look slightly better, and it's not as if anything else would have to change.
I really like this design and judging by the windows it’s a big ship.
I think the detached nacelles become attached nacelles when the ships go to warp. I’m sure I saw the Discovery’s pylons appear just before she went to warp? I think it was near (if not right at) the end of season 3.
Well, the nacelles being attached at warp was actually a major plot point. So yes, that's how Discovery's worked, but I don't think we can take that to mean that all the other ships worked that way.
The pylons don't appear; the nacelles drift inboard and attach to the tips of the existing stub pylons. This thing couldn't achieve that based on the design as depicted; the secondary hull and nacelles have to remain detached.
I honour the design. prefer the concept artwork with the porcelain look, because I feel that accentuate the organic lines. But this is an homage to a beauty, And I cant wait to grab this from Eaglemoss.
They definitely need to send you guys specs!!!!
Considering the whole programmable matter thing, I wonder if windows only exist when needed on this ship...
JJ would love the instantaneous transporters. Being able to jump anywhere on the ship in the blink of of an eye without using turbolifts? No more scenes like Chekov going from the bridge to engineering in a few seconds. Still very curious as to what happens if these ships lose all power for any reason. This detached segment tech looks cool but highly impractical. Eaglemoss can just use clear plastic for these things but my worry is that the plastic dulls or yellows over time
I'm curious as to which of the STO shield effects you guys like on this. When I first saw it, my thoughts were Intrepid-Prometheus-Dauntless hybrid. I was able to get a hold of one of these in STO and parked beside a classic Intrepid class. This thing is only slightly taller, but is longer and definitely wider than an Intrepid. The windows just don't give it a very good scale. It look like it ought to be 40+ decks tall.
I dont mind the geometric, detached look. Its something different, and it makes sense that far down the road for ships to look quite a bit different. but pls, can the massive negative spaces (from the turbolift scene) not be a thing ? Such a pain for many reasons
STO asked CBS if they could change the name and CBS said it was okay. They mentioned this a few times in a livestream they did on Twitch showing the ship off
The concept of detachable appendages built onto a starship is actually brilliant and can be utilized for many purposes.
I wonder why we never see any aircraft carrier style vessels in ST? Although, in Nemesis their was that fleet of attack craft on the Romulan ship, which was never used in battle.
I think it it beacuse Trek ship weapons (beam ones at least) are so accurate smaller ships can just be picked off too easily for smaller craft to be used in large numbers unless its desperate. In discovery we see a drone carrier ship but it has to launch literal SWARMS to be effective.
@@jeros8258 in the JJ verse movie Beyond the enemies had a similar swarming strategy.
I just imagine a multi part ship to have several advantages over a solid state vessel. If one section is damaged, it can be easily removed and replaced. Reminds me of Lego's... In space!
So, just realized... why weren't the cut-outs turned into warp "nacelles"? I mean, it's 800 years in the future, transwarp and slipstream are more common, etc, but warp drive still requires externally mounted warp coils/nacelles? Imagine if the nacelles were now like weapon/shield/sensor pods and ship cut outs were the "nacelles", but no one mentioned the switch. Discovery gets in some fight, a nacelle gets damaged while spore drive offline, everyone watching thinks she's in major trouble without warp ability, then they call for warp speed, and blue glowy bits in the secondary hull cut-outs brighten up just before the Discovery jumps away.
Then you have Saru and Burnham mention that they were really apprehensive about getting internal warp coils during the refit, given the potential dangers from the coils, but that's one advance by Starfleet over the centuries they're quite happy to have gotten now.
I wonder if that ship ever lost power, would it just fly off into four different parts???
Also when transporters go down you have to take shuttles to get to the different parts....
So when power goes down the nacelle just drift away and you have to take a shuttle over to them when the transporters go down.... such a great design... This is all form over function.
Very interesting looking ship, I do agree it should have a neck
It doesn't matter how advanced future tech is, or how small and casually used transporters get, you want redundancy in a space ship.
Despite the show's Producers going "It works, don't worry about it" without any real sort of explanation, those detaced parts are more of a liability than anything else.
The second that ship is in crisis, or loses main power, the crew will be stranded in the various sections of the ship.
When does a ship remain being a star ship with a crew and not just become a super probe with the ability to think and defend itself? These level of designs are to me the precursor to just a federation built v'ger! Too soulless for my tastes but impressive all the same!
I really don’t like detached sections of any ship. I think it is just weird . Visually it is uh ugly and just the opposite of sleek . I did not like Discovery at all. I very much miss techno babble that appeared to make some sense and pretty consistent through the TNG series
@@Capronice I agree 👍 All these ships with gaps in either the primary hull or between the primary and secondary hulls annoy me too! But then I've always said that many of the fan based or gaming new designs wouldn't be anymore than an engineers piece of course work to design a ship while studying at star fleet academy and we would actually only see as we did in the TOS many many constitution class star ships in fact I'd limit it to half a dozen platforms from TNG period; Galaxy (capital), Nebula (Cruiser), Intrepid (Destroyer), Science (Nova), Olympic (Medical), Defiant (Escort/ Scout)! I also don't see the Federation struggling on the same scale like the Empires do in terms of resources, they certainly wouldn't have junk/ grave yards surplus depots! And as an Excelsior is being decommissioned in it goes, stripped down, and out comes an Ambassador, in goes an Ambassador, out comes a Galaxy! The Federation wouldn't waste and would recycle, the closest thing they may possibly get close to would be a museum ship and even then they're wouldn't be one for every class just a handful that had made some history!
The Discovery is a Pizza Cutter, the Vengeance a Bottle opener and this thing is a USB keychain.
They forgot how to design ships. Should get the old model maker back in the saddle with the CGI team, really.
Honestly, it seems like a kid saw the Prometheus once, and using child's logic, starts screaming about a ship that's actually 4 ships, that can fly around and fight and combine to gether, but not combine together, and become an even dumber take on Vehicle Voltron.
How much power is being wasted keeping everything tethered together like this?
How much power is being wasted as Duty shifts come to an end and people need to transported to whichever part of the ship in any given day?
Wonder what a power loss would do to any one section, or the overall ship, while at Warp? If the Nacelles kept just enough Warp Field of their own, dropping the two hulls into normal space, while they rocketed off into the ether, becoming multi-thousand-ton projectiles at warp velocities? (Theoretical situation)
Yes, yes, there's only so much you can do with a saucer, hull, pylons and nacelles. . . and this WAS NOT it. In fact, nothing from that 900-hundred years in the future was it. The design aesthetic of that "Far off Future" looks incredibly lame. It's like people in the 1950's, looking at their cars and then going "I wonder what cars we will have in the future!" only to see we have basically bricks-on-wheels with very little character, in a STEP BACKWARD over the style and elegance of decades past.
We went from the current run of style and elegance with the Constitution and its refits, the Excelsior, Galaxy, Intrepid, and Sovereign, to the odd-ball looking "future" of. . . everything being separated for no other reason than to look "futuristic." If there were a vehicle I could compare this failure of a design aesthetic to, it would be the Pontiac Aztec.
That looks like a ds9 shuttle platform just forward from the bridge "window"
without the secondary hull it would look a bit like the delta flyer
To me, this is a much nicer ship and makes more sense to me then the Nog ship.
I bet Eaglemoss will just make a clear strip of plastic across from the body to the necelles to keep the floating look.
I believe more could be done to perfect this Voyager ship of the line. I may utilize design aspects here into a design I am working on. I am an STO player, but on XBOXSERIESX. Best wishes guys and I will look forward to one day having my Battleship/ Carrier showcased by Trekyards.
That thing at the back is like a bottle opener
I think the latest and greatest should just be a big rectangular box. Like a sideways skyscraper in space.
Looking at the Window size I’d say the ship has to be about 2000m long
Even without the heavy bokeh in the shows, these Kurtsman ships look awful.
People too focused on the magnetic connections miss how UGLY it looks regardless. Not to mention uninspired for over 1000 years in our future.
I have been waiting since the day she debuted for this breakdown.
Fan made or not, I'd love to see that nacelle movement. This is a beautiful ship!
thumbs up for this design i am going to get this ship in star trek online and the toy when it comes out
the size of the windows makes me feel it should be larger then it is in sto, somehwere around 700 to 800 meters
I am of the opinion that a ship this far in the future would be expected to only have certain external features as low tech back up and that the majority of it's functions are "magiked into being" as needed by particle synthesis - the equivalent of phasers for example may well project directly off the shield bubble & it could porcupine itself if it needed to do so.
Hull repairs would also be automatic and use transporter/replicator tech to instantly heal any damage. The whole ship would effectively be it's own holodeck programme only instead of making the ship with holomatter and forcefields it's made with normal materials - and so any damage is instantly repaired to the "model" not that unlike what Borg Cubes did originally.
The Metamorphic hull configuration is a bit nutty but it does have some uses I guess. as shown with Book's ship. It even has some wacky advantages like any harm to one part doesn't have to shake the other pieces around so long as the forcefields connecting the parts are able to dampen it suitably. I guess it achieves it's goal of looking "Futuristic" if nothing else.
super cool design, really love the aesthetic, big fan of the detached nacelles and engineering hull, fits perfectly with the era, and who knows maybe future transporter tech means there's no need for turbolifts any more and you just beam from one hull to the other, maybe they beam warp plasma from the engineering hull to the nacelles, who knows?!?
The detached nacelles are a gimic for the same of a gimic, like the silly turbolift cityscape or Klingons having two sets of genitals. This is where STD still lets itself down despite the massive progress that the show has made. At least it now looks a lot more like a ship with the aztecing and additional details.
Im actually liking the design, except for that hole in the back maybe, would have been maybe better if that part was filled out but idk. And the fact that the saucer and nacelles are split doesn't bother me at all since in that time everyone has personal transporters integrated in their comm badges anyway, although one has to wander what happens if transporter system fails? Do people just get stuck in whatever section they happen to be in at the time?
The rear view gave me Stargate Al'Kesh vibes! Stretched out like it went through a wormhole the wrong way.
Poor Janeway...all those years in the Delta Quadrant trying to get home...when Starfleet had already developed a spore drive like a whole century before that could have got them home in the blink off an eye.
Stuart & Samuel - It would be interesting if each of you redesigned this ship with what you would like to see done to it. Just a thought.
My first impression from the first lower 3/4 view shot was; "This is what you get when an Intrepid class starship and an Imperial Star Destroyer hook up and procreate."
Still not a fan of the USS Bluetooth Bottleopener.
Why, in an era where they are strapped for dilithium, are they wasting power on separated components?
One good EMP blast and watch this thing go in four different directions at once.
I'm still very curious about how all of the modules are held together...through some sort of forcefields maybe? I hope there will be deeper lore that explains that. I do like the new bridge design; how it's recessed into the hull for better protection. For me, this design screams "Prometheus Class" as the angles are much sharper and I like that. It's explained that the struts on Voyager were NOT a gimmick but an actual experimental feature where it would tighten-up the warp-bubble to leave less of a warp signature and to be more environmentally friendly. Remember the episode from TNG where the doctor caused a core overload and caused a massive rift in the area; the ideal derived from that incident. I have to agree with Foley more in this video as I feel the Commander is missing a lot of design elements and aspects. It's a future ship, design elements are going to be different depending on material, advancement in technology, method of assembly, etc.
I'm new to this design....what is keeping the warp nacelles and the primary hull attached the rest of the ship?
I don’t like the dish being recessed. It looks fine and goes with the rest but having the dish recessed narrows it’s field of effectiveness as the lower decks on either side reduce the field whereby the dish can receive or send. I suppose it could be a moveable part and gets pushed out if needed but that’s a lot of extra stuff to maintain or could break when you could just have it flush with the lower deck. It’s not very “advanced” to have to maneuver the ship to point the dish.