Tronte's father is the unknown, cuz in one of the episodes he meets tronte next to the cave and tells him he knew his mother very well, (later we know tronte has never seen his father cuz he himself had doubts that the unknown was his father)
Tronte's father is the origin, the child of Martha and Jonas. Wasn't it clear? Noah was a priest/pastor and the brother of Agnes but we don't get to know of their relation in the beginning when the characters are introduced. So when the fact is revealed that Tronte's father was a priest, everyone thinks it's Noah while in fact it's the priest who 'replaces' Noah at St. Christopher's church. When Claudia's mother is worried about the sudden disappearance of Agnes and goes to the church, she meets the origin there. Moreover the origin gives Tronte the bracelet and even mentions that he named Tronte. Since the show is only 3 seasons long, not every minute detail can be spoonfed. Like Regina's father is not Tronte but Bernd Doppler, Helge's father.
Hmm, that would destroy my theory that the other world that Martha 2 came from is the world Old Claudia referred to as the world without Jonas. Since that world would probably have Mikkel never time travel. and thus no Jonas. But if Adam/ Jonas is Tronte's father the Nielsens wouldn't exist in that world, and thus no Martha.
dont know if you have figured the puzzle out by now since its been 6 months but: all the major families in winden we get to know are in the same situation as jonas. they are all part of the "knot". every single one of these families has a timetraveller as an ancestor and thus would cease to exist if the loop is broken / the knot is solved. in the last episode, young noah hands stranger jonas a letter. stranger jonas looks shocked afterwards because this is the moment he learns that solving the knot wouldnt just mean him/adam disappearing (which he had made peace with) but everyone else, too.
@@kgaurav35 the infinity sign on Eva's family tree is actually her and Jonas son. He is the unknown. Knowing this, you can see on the tree that Agnes + Unknown = Tronte.
i think jonas and martha's son was tronte's father
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Agnes said her husband died, so that alone makes me think Bartosz, which is definetely the man who young Noah killed, could be her husband. Young Tronte tells young Claudia that Agnes left him in an orphanage for a good time, so it makes me think she hated her son, and could've done those cigar marks on him (se does smoke). She also said she was happy her usband died, so that must've been the worst marriage, and if Tronte resembles Bartosz, it would be one more reason to hate Tront and take it all on him.
Vinícius Galant I forgot about those cigar marks on him.... hmm, maybe both of you are right- in a way?... mad idk, I’m so confused but this show is really Good lol.
My theory: Magnus and Franziska are Noah and Agnes' parents. Noah is Tronte's father. That's why Agnes hates Noah so much and resents her son. Noah got what he deserved when Agnes shot him in front of their parents. Very soap opera, I know.
I came from the future to tell you that the unknown is Tornate father, he is Martha's and jonas son which means Jonas is his great great great great great father 🤪
Agnes' husband could have definitely been Adam or even another member of Sic Mundus. Some of the travelers dress like priests to blend in with different timelines, so it would make sense.
A child of two worlds, The Origin (real name unknown) is the son of Jonas Kahnwald from the Prime world and Martha Nielsen from the Mirror world. He fathered Tronte Nielsen with Agnes Nielsen in both worlds, becoming the center of the complicated knot that is the Winden family tree. And thats how the cycle has to continue. And hence Adam wanted to end it in season 3. www.bustle.com/p/this-dark-character-map-will-help-you-make-sense-of-the-shows-tangled-web-of-characters-timelines-18160529
Tronte was adopted by Agnes. He said to child Claudia that he was in an orphanage and that ashamed Agnes. It could be that Agnes's mission was take care of tronte cause he is Adam grand grandpa. Or yes, tronte can be Agnes and bartozs son, but he was in an orphanage cause Agnes time travelling.
In hindsight, yours was probably the best theory out there, given the information we had. All that was missing was the Unknown as the extra connection in the knot/loop, who you couldn't have known about.
The wounds on Tronte NIELSEN's forearms are shown to us (with emphasis) a couple of times throughout Season 2. Those wounds looked fresh, as if they had occurred not too long before he and his mother Agnes entered Winden. There must've been some significant time traveling before they both arrived in Winden. We learned from Adam that, with enough time travel, wounds and scars will begin to form on the body; hence, his disfigured body. We see this occur with future Jonas as well.. the scars on his back. Quite possibly, the bodily effects of time traveling are more severe on children than they are on adolescents / adults. Knowing now that Agnes is a member of the Travelers, my belief is that Agnes gave birth to Tronte outside of the timeline in which he is presented in Season 2. Rather than losing her child, like how her brother Noah lost Elisabeth, Agnes must've broken the rules of engagement by taking her son Tronte with her, and that might've been possible only with the help of Claudia. Could it be that Agnes gave birth to Adam's child? Not sure, but I've read elsewhere that the predecessor of young Noah (the one who has the Emerald tablet tattooed on the front) might actually be an older Bartosz. Is it possible that Tronte is the son of Agnes and Bartosz? Perhaps. Note: In the opening scene of Season 2, we find out that both the predecessor and young Noah worked for Adam.. this predecessor may have acted as a pastor in his dealings with the world, much like Noah acted like a priest.. one has the Emerald tablet tattooed on the front of his body (the predecessor, or Bartosz), while the other has it tattooed on the back of his body (Noah).. and supposedly each prepares the other to become his successor, only in different timelines.. another ouroboros
We see a young Agnes (preteen) and Noah in 1921 before Sic Mundas was built in the cave. Noah takes Jonas under the church so Adam can send him back to 2019; to stop his dad from committing suicide. Not that that has anything to do with what you were saying but 1921 is the the first time we see Agnes and young Noah which is when we find out they’re siblings.
Am I missing something or when we see Bartosz in 1921 he is already in his 20-30s while Agnes is supposed to be a child (8 - 10 years old or something)? Assuming he's the same guy who's got killed by Noah in S2, Bartosz being Tronte's father theory wouldn't make sense at all.
So I was all excited I got this all down pat, then they threw the curveball in at the end! Now I’m gonna have to watch it all over again when season three comes out next year! Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiler alert season 3: so Adam is basically Tronte's grandpa, and Tronte's son Ulrich is Jonas/Adam's grandpa. It's all full circle. Also Jonas is Silja's half-sister, so he's Agnes' uncle, therefore he's not only Tronte's grandpa but also his granduncle...
Hello everyone. İ think it is Bartozch. He has brown eyes. So torento has it too. İf jonas/adam was the father, toronto would have blue eyes. And Agnes said that her husband was killed and noah had already killed bart. Bart is also is priest. He has tatttoo. İ think tattoo thing is a sembol of being priest. She also said his husband was priest. So bart is the father of Toronte. Bart is Jonas’s grand grandfarher and his lover’s lover. Haha 🙃
Why didn't you consider Bartosz as the father? Going by Agnes and Bartosz personalities, they would have possibly made out in the Sic Mundus. Also, we don't really see Bartosz along with older Magnus and Franziska in the Sic Mundus. This might be due to the fact Bartosz realizes early on that he has been played by Noah and hence Adam. And he decides to leave the group which very well is put forward by Agnes as leaving the church. Following this, Bartosz and young Noah have some differences arising due to Bartosz leaving Agnes and saying to Noah that Adam trusts you that's why he gave you this name. Noah was always supposed to kill him in that timeline but the fact that it all has to do with Bartosz leaving Agnes and Sic Mundud makes it him a stronger candidate for the husband.
My take is Egon and Hanna had an affair. Jonas is the product of that affair. Hanna traveled back to 86 pregnant and disguise it as Michael son. So Jonas and Martha are not related. This information is revealed in the letter given by young Noah to Jonas before the apocalypse. This is supported in the embrace of Jonas and Hanna. Take a second look on the face of Hanna, she is hiding something important to her son, also the lack of sexual interest of Michael. Bartosz importance is not yet revealed, so is his father Alekzander. Why Noah and Adam needed to recruit Bartosz, that’s is the mystery I needed answer on final season.
I think it is the perfect example of the bootstrap paradox which is mentioned in the serie just like the scientist s book about time travelling. It was sent to the past and given to his own writer and it exists just for this action. There s no starting Point in the creation of the book, and there's no ending Point as well, It s a perfect circle and a cicle fated to last forever. I think the innovation of Dark is to have made characters aware about this paradox and willing to escape
In S2 ending we see young Noah in the bunker with Elizabeth, among others. It makes sense if Noah and Elizabeth conceive Charlotte around 2030. Now we know that Charlotte doesn't know who her father is, because the clockmaker took care of her, so it means that Noah and Elizabeth at some point brought Charlotte back in time so that we see her adult in 2019. Of course during this time she conceived Elizabeth and the loop starts again.
My theory is Tronte is actually the son of Egon Tiedemann and Hannah...or...someone else is by 1986. The show failed to explain where Sic Mundus came from and how they can afford to build underground massive facilities in 1921-1956. Why Winden is special, why these 4 families were chosen...why Elisabeth is the leader in the future.
They do explain how they can afford all the facilities, it's also common sense how they can afford the facilities. Many other questions will be answered in season 3.
My July 2020 version of myself knows exactly who Tronte's father is. Do you? If you do, did it totally blow your mind when you found out? Do you know what it implies?
What if Tronte is someone else's kid. He was saved by Agnes (shown by his scars maybe from the orphanage?). If Agnes prefers women that would corroborate. Also Tronte helps Claudia.. so maybe he has a secret he is keeping.. which Claudia knows of... which ultimately leads to him helping her.
I assume the same. But not Agnes traveled back but Bartotz traveled forward. When he left his actual timeline in 2020 before the apokalypse they went to 1888 all together (That is why Magnus and Franziska are also aged up in 1921. Bortotsz was already fucked over by adult Noah and had still doubts also Magnus and Franziska needed to be brainwashed enough to accept that Bartotzs has to die. Bartotsz misued the timemachine as soon as it was finished and moved forward to a time were Agnes was a child. The grew up together and had Tronte in the 50s but Bartotz came back later and was punished by picking the tunnel together with the newest recruit Noah. And Then Noah killed Bartotsz fulfilling the dept. In a way Noah helped Bartotsz to get into Sic Mundus and the other way around.
When season 2starts there are 2people who builds time travel portal under the cave and young nova kills one of them as he says he has no faith and to start asks questions and he was killed by nova too..may be theres a flashback to him in coming seasons
In every dark video 99.9% of the theories people came out with were all wrong. Myself I was in a small minority that were of the opinion that Jonas will break the cycle and I got crucified for it with the same shit being the end is the beginning and the beginning is the end as in an endless cycle. I'm glad I was proved right as the cycle was broken.
I think this stroy goes this way... my father is my child and my child is my father so, we don't know when this thing started it seems like an O theory.....There is not an ending and not a beginning. There isn't actually an ending and a beginning. It just happened
It would be nice if you can make a video about all the different versions of Jonas. In season 1 we already meet young Jonas and adult Jonas In season 2 we also meet Adam who vliams to be the old Jonas. In episode 6 (the day before season 1 episode 1) we even see 2 versions of young Jonas: original young Jonas, who is not aware that his father who commits suicide and young Jonas the time traveler (with scarred neck and yellow coat). In episode 7 and 8 we see that Jonas the time traveller is still there till the 'apocalypse' in 2020. Did he return two times 1 the day before Michaels suicide in 2019 and 2 in 2020 a few days before te apocalypse and so where was he in the time between 1 and 2? In episode 6 there were 2 versions of young Jonas at the same time, isn't that going too far?
The Young Jonas we see in episode 6, stays in that timeline and learn everything from the Older Claudia. In Episode 8, the Young Jonas tells 1986 Claudia that I've learnt it all in the past 12 months. So basically he stayed when he learned the truth about his father, learned everything from Claudia, used the time machine after 12 months to travel 33 years into the past and finally came back on the day of apocalypse.
Rip to the people who were thinking bartosz is Agnes husband
Bartoz is her father duh
But that's soo close. He's almost right
Dude stop flashing the logo every 5 seconds.
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha all of the theories in the comment are wrong! I love how dark is so unpredictable
Exactly! 😂 Noobs everywhere
What if bartosz is the husband who wasn’t believing enough and got killed my young Noah
Everything is wonderful bartosz is a older man when young Noah killed him, if that is bartosz; Agnes is only like 6 or 7ish in 1921
Jonathan Walker Agnes could have traveled back in time around the 1940s
@@EVH5150iii Don't forget that she is also the member of Sic Mundus Est
Bartosz is not a priest
Bartosz is not a priest
Tronte's father is the unknown, cuz in one of the episodes he meets tronte next to the cave and tells him he knew his mother very well, (later we know tronte has never seen his father cuz he himself had doubts that the unknown was his father)
Tronte's father is the origin, the child of Martha and Jonas. Wasn't it clear? Noah was a priest/pastor and the brother of Agnes but we don't get to know of their relation in the beginning when the characters are introduced. So when the fact is revealed that Tronte's father was a priest, everyone thinks it's Noah while in fact it's the priest who 'replaces' Noah at St. Christopher's church. When Claudia's mother is worried about the sudden disappearance of Agnes and goes to the church, she meets the origin there. Moreover the origin gives Tronte the bracelet and even mentions that he named Tronte. Since the show is only 3 seasons long, not every minute detail can be spoonfed. Like Regina's father is not Tronte but Bernd Doppler, Helge's father.
Hmm, that would destroy my theory that the other world that Martha 2 came from is the world Old Claudia referred to as the world without Jonas. Since that world would probably have Mikkel never time travel. and thus no Jonas. But if Adam/ Jonas is Tronte's father the Nielsens wouldn't exist in that world, and thus no Martha.
dont know if you have figured the puzzle out by now since its been 6 months but:
all the major families in winden we get to know are in the same situation as jonas.
they are all part of the "knot".
every single one of these families has a timetraveller as an ancestor and thus would cease to exist if the loop is broken / the knot is solved.
in the last episode, young noah hands stranger jonas a letter. stranger jonas looks shocked afterwards because this is the moment he learns that solving the knot wouldnt just mean him/adam disappearing (which he had made peace with) but everyone else, too.
how did martha know jonas if her world doesn't have a jonas
That is a great theory
@@ClashofclansRoyle alt martha's world doesn't have jonas it is cleared in the season 3 trailer watch it.
Trontes father is the unknown - Adam and Martha's son 😂😂
Can ya explain a bit?
@@kgaurav35 the infinity sign on Eva's family tree is actually her and Jonas son. He is the unknown. Knowing this, you can see on the tree that Agnes + Unknown = Tronte.
What about the man who was killed by young Noah who help into digging the hole , I don't know
@@anand_0621 that man was Bartosh..the father of agnes and noah...so Noah killed his father
@@Slears ok
i think jonas and martha's son was tronte's father
Agnes said her husband died, so that alone makes me think Bartosz, which is definetely the man who young Noah killed, could be her husband. Young Tronte tells young Claudia that Agnes left him in an orphanage for a good time, so it makes me think she hated her son, and could've done those cigar marks on him (se does smoke). She also said she was happy her usband died, so that must've been the worst marriage, and if Tronte resembles Bartosz, it would be one more reason to hate Tront and take it all on him.
Vinícius Galant I forgot about those cigar marks on him.... hmm, maybe both of you are right- in a way?... mad idk, I’m so confused but this show is really Good lol.
Vinícius Galant Bartosz is killed by a young noah, not a young jonas.
@@alessandromalinverno7097 thank you, edited
This theory would at connect Claudia's line with Jonas'.
My theory: Magnus and Franziska are Noah and Agnes' parents. Noah is Tronte's father. That's why Agnes hates Noah so much and resents her son. Noah got what he deserved when Agnes shot him in front of their parents.
Very soap opera, I know.
My theory is that Agnes is her own grandmother as she said in 1953 that she is not from Winden but her grandmother is.... Hope makes sense
Mathias Markus well it shows Agnes’ mom, Erna, and a young Agnes in Winden. But maybe
it is sooo fun to read the comments after the finale..lol
I came from the future to tell you that the unknown is Tornate father, he is Martha's and jonas son which means Jonas is his great great great great great father 🤪
Juve N spoilers
Agnes' husband could have definitely been Adam or even another member of Sic Mundus. Some of the travelers dress like priests to blend in with different timelines, so it would make sense.
Here's the truth: The unknown traveler, Jonas and Martha's son is Tronte's father.
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Spoilers
A child of two worlds, The Origin (real name unknown) is the son of Jonas Kahnwald from the Prime world and Martha Nielsen from the Mirror world. He fathered Tronte Nielsen with Agnes Nielsen in both worlds, becoming the center of the complicated knot that is the Winden family tree. And thats how the cycle has to continue. And hence Adam wanted to end it in season 3.
www.bustle.com/p/this-dark-character-map-will-help-you-make-sense-of-the-shows-tangled-web-of-characters-timelines-18160529
So jonas is grandfather of ulrich .. and Ulrich is again grandfather of jonas 😂😂
Jonas is the great-grandfather of Ulrich.....
Not the Jonas who turns into Adam
If Jonas is father of Tronte than Martha would be his great grandchild.. hmmm😵
Yeah and his father would be his grandchild as well 😂
No I think Bartosz is tronte's father
And she is also her aunt..Boot strap paradox
Any guess who is the new character???!!!!
If jonas is tronte's father then martha is his great granddaughter,his aunt and his girlfriend and ulrich,his granfather,is his son
Tronte was adopted by Agnes. He said to child Claudia that he was in an orphanage and that ashamed Agnes. It could be that Agnes's mission was take care of tronte cause he is Adam grand grandpa. Or yes, tronte can be Agnes and bartozs son, but he was in an orphanage cause Agnes time travelling.
How could he be son of Bartosz and Agnes ! Noah and Agnes are the children of Bartosz ! Noah and Agnes are siblings for sure
@@pateldhrumin8478 how are noah and agnes children of bartosz?
@@pateldhrumin8478 brilliant
@@pateldhrumin8478Are you a time traveller brother 😲
I am sad because season 3 is the final season... 😭😭😭
When it is streaming s3??
@@prajwalshettigar2118 June 27
It’s good that it is the final season. The questions needs to be answered now!
So is Noah kinda like the base “Father of all” seems like he’s spreading his seed all over🤓🤔
In hindsight, yours was probably the best theory out there, given the information we had. All that was missing was the Unknown as the extra connection in the knot/loop, who you couldn't have known about.
Charlotte husband is tronte's father! Could it be? Since he is in old pictures at adam's 1921 church?
Jonas and Martha's son is the husband of agnes
The wounds on Tronte NIELSEN's forearms are shown to us (with emphasis) a couple of times throughout Season 2. Those wounds looked fresh, as if they had occurred not too long before he and his mother Agnes entered Winden. There must've been some significant time traveling before they both arrived in Winden.
We learned from Adam that, with enough time travel, wounds and scars will begin to form on the body; hence, his disfigured body. We see this occur with future Jonas as well.. the scars on his back.
Quite possibly, the bodily effects of time traveling are more severe on children than they are on adolescents / adults.
Knowing now that Agnes is a member of the Travelers, my belief is that Agnes gave birth to Tronte outside of the timeline in which he is presented in Season 2. Rather than losing her child, like how her brother Noah lost Elisabeth, Agnes must've broken the rules of engagement by taking her son Tronte with her, and that might've been possible only with the help of Claudia.
Could it be that Agnes gave birth to Adam's child? Not sure, but I've read elsewhere that the predecessor of young Noah (the one who has the Emerald tablet tattooed on the front) might actually be an older Bartosz. Is it possible that Tronte is the son of Agnes and Bartosz? Perhaps.
Note: In the opening scene of Season 2, we find out that both the predecessor and young Noah worked for Adam.. this predecessor may have acted as a pastor in his dealings with the world, much like Noah acted like a priest.. one has the Emerald tablet tattooed on the front of his body (the predecessor, or Bartosz), while the other has it tattooed on the back of his body (Noah).. and supposedly each prepares the other to become his successor, only in different timelines.. another ouroboros
We see a young Agnes (preteen) and Noah in 1921 before Sic Mundas was built in the cave. Noah takes Jonas under the church so Adam can send him back to 2019; to stop his dad from committing suicide. Not that that has anything to do with what you were saying but 1921 is the the first time we see Agnes and young Noah which is when we find out they’re siblings.
Am I missing something or when we see Bartosz in 1921 he is already in his 20-30s while Agnes is supposed to be a child (8 - 10 years old or something)?
Assuming he's the same guy who's got killed by Noah in S2, Bartosz being Tronte's father theory wouldn't make sense at all.
Waiting for your season 2 chronological explanation.
So I was all excited I got this all down pat, then they threw the curveball in at the end! Now I’m gonna have to watch it all over again when season three comes out next year! Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiler alert season 3:
so Adam is basically Tronte's grandpa, and Tronte's son Ulrich is Jonas/Adam's grandpa. It's all full circle. Also Jonas is Silja's half-sister, so he's Agnes' uncle, therefore he's not only Tronte's grandpa but also his granduncle...
The unknown, with cut on the chin
Trontes Father's is the origin
Hello everyone. İ think it is Bartozch. He has brown eyes. So torento has it too. İf jonas/adam was the father, toronto would have blue eyes. And Agnes said that her husband was killed and noah had already killed bart. Bart is also is priest. He has tatttoo. İ think tattoo thing is a sembol of being priest. She also said his husband was priest. So bart is the father of Toronte. Bart is Jonas’s grand grandfarher and his lover’s lover. Haha 🙃
It's Jonas and Martha's son " The unknown" Guy in three ages....
Why didn't you consider Bartosz as the father? Going by Agnes and Bartosz personalities, they would have possibly made out in the Sic Mundus. Also, we don't really see Bartosz along with older Magnus and Franziska in the Sic Mundus. This might be due to the fact Bartosz realizes early on that he has been played by Noah and hence Adam. And he decides to leave the group which very well is put forward by Agnes as leaving the church. Following this, Bartosz and young Noah have some differences arising due to Bartosz leaving Agnes and saying to Noah that Adam trusts you that's why he gave you this name. Noah was always supposed to kill him in that timeline but the fact that it all has to do with Bartosz leaving Agnes and Sic Mundud makes it him a stronger candidate for the husband.
My take is Egon and Hanna had an affair. Jonas is the product of that affair. Hanna traveled back to 86 pregnant and disguise it as Michael son. So Jonas and Martha are not related. This information is revealed in the letter given by young Noah to Jonas before the apocalypse.
This is supported in the embrace of Jonas and Hanna. Take a second look on the face of Hanna, she is hiding something important to her son, also the lack of sexual interest of Michael.
Bartosz importance is not yet revealed, so is his father Alekzander. Why Noah and Adam needed to recruit Bartosz, that’s is the mystery I needed answer on final season.
I think there's no way like this. Hanna went to 86 in 2020, a year after Michael's death.
Her son with Egon probably is Alexander Tieddeman
Jonas is 15 bro
How Charlotte can be mother and daughter of Elisabeth?
I think it is the perfect example of the bootstrap paradox which is mentioned in the serie just like the scientist s book about time travelling. It was sent to the past and given to his own writer and it exists just for this action. There s no starting Point in the creation of the book, and there's no ending Point as well, It s a perfect circle and a cicle fated to last forever. I think the innovation of Dark is to have made characters aware about this paradox and willing to escape
In S2 ending we see young Noah in the bunker with Elizabeth, among others. It makes sense if Noah and Elizabeth conceive Charlotte around 2030. Now we know that Charlotte doesn't know who her father is, because the clockmaker took care of her, so it means that Noah and Elizabeth at some point brought Charlotte back in time so that we see her adult in 2019. Of course during this time she conceived Elizabeth and the loop starts again.
The guy who given birth by jonas and alt martha is the husband of agnes
Jonas's son is Tronte's father
My theory is Tronte is actually the son of Egon Tiedemann and Hannah...or...someone else is by 1986. The show failed to explain where Sic Mundus came from and how they can afford to build underground massive facilities in 1921-1956. Why Winden is special, why these 4 families were chosen...why Elisabeth is the leader in the future.
They do explain how they can afford all the facilities, it's also common sense how they can afford the facilities. Many other questions will be answered in season 3.
My July 2020 version of myself knows exactly who Tronte's father is. Do you? If you do, did it totally blow your mind when you found out? Do you know what it implies?
This didn’t age well...
Have you watched season 3 yet? The answer is in the show
Who is tronte's father!!!!!!!
Who is Regina's dad
What if Tronte is someone else's kid. He was saved by Agnes (shown by his scars maybe from the orphanage?). If Agnes prefers women that would corroborate. Also Tronte helps Claudia.. so maybe he has a secret he is keeping.. which Claudia knows of... which ultimately leads to him helping her.
Could you please make a video like DARK SEASON 1 EXPLAINED IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER!!! But with season 1 and 2 combined! :D
I assume the same. But not Agnes traveled back but Bartotz traveled forward.
When he left his actual timeline in 2020 before the apokalypse they went to 1888 all together (That is why Magnus and Franziska are also aged up in 1921. Bortotsz was already fucked over by adult Noah and had still doubts also Magnus and Franziska needed to be brainwashed enough to accept that Bartotzs has to die. Bartotsz misued the timemachine as soon as it was finished and moved forward to a time were Agnes was a child. The grew up together and had Tronte in the 50s but Bartotz came back later and was punished by picking the tunnel together with the newest recruit Noah. And Then Noah killed Bartotsz fulfilling the dept. In a way Noah helped Bartotsz to get into Sic Mundus and the other way around.
When season 2starts there are 2people who builds time travel portal under the cave and young nova kills one of them as he says he has no faith and to start asks questions and he was killed by nova too..may be theres a flashback to him in coming seasons
Great theory 👍 i can't say for sure who his father is until season 3. I thought it was Noah (base on season 1)
Who did you think Regina father is???
Tronte i think
Baran Becerman
I thought he’s Ulrich’s father 😐
@@ashikasmin he is ulrich`s and regina`s father
@@ashikasmin your thought is true
Bernd Doppler
I think that Winden can not exist without Jonas.
In every dark video 99.9% of the theories people came out with were all wrong. Myself I was in a small minority that were of the opinion that Jonas will break the cycle and I got crucified for it with the same shit being the end is the beginning and the beginning is the end as in an endless cycle. I'm glad I was proved right as the cycle was broken.
If it is the case then boom martha is its own great grandmother .
Now we can finally stop brainstorming on the family tree...bc after season 3 we know it Doesnt Even Exist..
Tronte’s father is Ulrich’s brother!
Mark Mallorca mads nielsen died as a kid
I think this stroy goes this way...
my father is my child and my child is my father so, we don't know when this thing started it seems like an O theory.....There is not an ending and not a beginning. There isn't actually an ending and a beginning. It just happened
TRONTI
The unknown. Cased closed.
Jonas is the father. Mother martha
When they reveal that the unknow is tronte’s father? We just realize that because of the family tree on eva’s floor?
There are so many hints in season 3. episode 4. Tronte even says to Jana that he thinks that was his father. They even look alike.
can any one explain how adam will survive the apocalypse?
It would be nice if you can make a video about all the different versions of Jonas. In season 1 we already meet young Jonas and adult Jonas In season 2 we also meet Adam who vliams to be the old Jonas. In episode 6 (the day before season 1 episode 1) we even see 2 versions of young Jonas: original young Jonas, who is not aware that his father who commits suicide and young Jonas the time traveler (with scarred neck and yellow coat). In episode 7 and 8 we see that Jonas the time traveller is still there till the 'apocalypse' in 2020. Did he return two times 1 the day before Michaels suicide in 2019 and 2 in 2020 a few days before te apocalypse and so where was he in the time between 1 and 2?
In episode 6 there were 2 versions of young Jonas at the same time, isn't that going too far?
The Young Jonas we see in episode 6, stays in that timeline and learn everything from the Older Claudia. In Episode 8, the Young Jonas tells 1986 Claudia that I've learnt it all in the past 12 months. So basically he stayed when he learned the truth about his father, learned everything from Claudia, used the time machine after 12 months to travel 33 years into the past and finally came back on the day of apocalypse.
Tronte's father is jonah son
The origin was the tronte 's father.....you were wrong brother😂😂
What about the man who was killed by young Noah who help into digging the hole , I don't know
The man who was killed is Bartosz ( father of Noah / Hanno), ideally Noah killed his dad
Most probably it would be Mad Nielson (Ulrichs brother).
sourav nath but he died as a kid
@@beasievert1756 maybe there exist an alternative version of Mad Nielson in the past.
Most ?
Okay I know I should be taking this seriously but I just can't stop laughing at the way you guys pronounce the German names... hahah
Noah is Adam or Jonas , m I correct?)
Mukta Shukla Noah is Noah. Adam is oldest Jonas
No actually may be jonas or adam is. Noah 's dad. As someone said that adam has given Noah name
The unknown
I thought Noah was his Father 😂
everyone
It's Jonas
Is tronte regina's father?
That is the assumption for now, as Claudia had an affair with Tronte.
No. It's solved in s3
Bartosz
Supposably?
What if it s Adam?
You're little close to the answer
What if Jonas is the father?
That was literally the concept of the video
That would make Tronte his great grandfather and son as well
@@vielkacastillero5200 yeah so? XD nothing really new for this show
The WHOLE video was based on thst theory, that ADAM, so JONAS, might be the father. Oof
@@puresoul9408 never said I watched the damn thing
It's the Unknown or Mr. Infinity Sign!
Season 1 was lit....but season 2 lost all plot ..
Anything is happening
Noah is tronte’s father
I think..... jonas😉
You were soo close
Hmm
Lol
LOL
Magnus neilsen must have time traveled and maried with Agnes so she got name agnes neilsen
Lol this theory blowss
Close theory.