There is a lot of good advice in this video. Especially the part about thinking in Roman numerals and ii-Vs and needing to play these tunes regularly if you really want to internalize them.
Great advice - the only issue I have with this approach is finding versions that are "understandable" when your not great at learning by ear because jazz players are usually the melody and harmony in different ways. Unfortunately I've really lost that ability to learn quicly by ear from when I toured in a cover band several decades ago - and the tunes on the jukebox were much easier too.
@@leobird8756 for the melody, usually yes, although some singers don't do the melody straight either - who do you find is the best for the most accurate versions and the backing music/band is straightforward for figuring out the changes?
@The Hardwired Music Maker Thanks! You might want to try joining the LJS Inner Circle where we can hone again your ability to learn by ear. We have an ear training course How To Play What You Hear. Here's the link to find out more: members.learnjazzstandards.com/sp/inner-circle/
Good advice here. Learning the melody, especially the top line is a good start. Listening to a few singers is good. As I'm not great on theory I use my ears for my fingerstyle, If your arrangement sounds good to you, then it's probably fine.
A jazz guitarist who read , understands harmony and chord melody said the same thing that a rock guitarist who played bouzouki in a Greek band and had photographic ears said the same thing . " You gotta sing it first to play it . "
The reason I don't often include blues or rhythm changes in my standards lists is because I consider those both separate studies as being the most important song forms. So to me its a given that along with other standards to know lots of blues and rhythm changes heads. Glad you enjoyed it!
There is a question I am always curious about and thought of asking. How many jazz standards out there that are totally out of copyright? Obviously When the Saints go Marching in is, how about autumn leaves?
Were you learning the songs to play in solo guitar gigs each week? Or were the gigs as part of a band? I think that would make a difference as to how to prepare. Thanks for the advice!
Both! Mostly duo and trio gigs this particular year I did this, but I also was able to play most at some basic level solo. Not necessarily big planned out arrangements, just the basic ability to perform by myself
Thanks. I actually have a "learn 10 standards this year" resolution, so this is perfect. This video has pointed out some good tips that I'm not doing (like learning by ear). Thanks!
When you learned these Melodies by ear did you write them down? I found that I learn it by ear but then when I go to write it down I lose interest cause it gets tedious. I guess I should be more vigilant... but it takes so long.
You would be surprised to know that in our Inner Circle courses, we don't implement long practice hours. We believe that jazz music (or any music for that matter) is about quality practice, not quantity. Check out this link to find out more: members.learnjazzstandards.com/sp/inner-circle/
There is a lot of good advice in this video. Especially the part about thinking in Roman numerals and ii-Vs and needing to play these tunes regularly if you really want to internalize them.
Glad you agree!
Thank's for your good tips!
My pleasure Peter!
Great advice - the only issue I have with this approach is finding versions that are "understandable" when your not great at learning by ear because jazz players are usually the melody and harmony in different ways. Unfortunately I've really lost that ability to learn quicly by ear from when I toured in a cover band several decades ago - and the tunes on the jukebox were much easier too.
Learn standards by listening to vocalists!
@@leobird8756 for the melody, usually yes, although some singers don't do the melody straight either - who do you find is the best for the most accurate versions and the backing music/band is straightforward for figuring out the changes?
@The Hardwired Music Maker Thanks! You might want to try joining the LJS Inner Circle where we can hone again your ability to learn by ear. We have an ear training course How To Play What You Hear. Here's the link to find out more: members.learnjazzstandards.com/sp/inner-circle/
Great guidance. Well done.
Thanks!
Good advice here. Learning the melody, especially the top line is a good start. Listening to a few singers is good.
As I'm not great on theory I use my ears for my fingerstyle, If your arrangement sounds good to you, then it's probably fine.
Very good advice. Thanks, specially thé one about playing gigs!!!!
Thank you!
A jazz guitarist who read , understands harmony and chord melody said the same thing that a rock guitarist who played bouzouki in a Greek band and had photographic ears said the same thing . " You gotta sing it first to play it . "
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I am very surprised that you didn't include a blues and a rhythm changes in your "first ten" list. Anyway, as always, great advice! Thanks!
The reason I don't often include blues or rhythm changes in my standards lists is because I consider those both separate studies as being the most important song forms. So to me its a given that along with other standards to know lots of blues and rhythm changes heads. Glad you enjoyed it!
There is a question I am always curious about and thought of asking.
How many jazz standards out there that are totally out of copyright?
Obviously When the Saints go Marching in is, how about autumn leaves?
What's your list
Were you learning the songs to play in solo guitar gigs each week? Or were the gigs as part of a band? I think that would make a difference as to how to prepare. Thanks for the advice!
Both! Mostly duo and trio gigs this particular year I did this, but I also was able to play most at some basic level solo. Not necessarily big planned out arrangements, just the basic ability to perform by myself
Thanks. I actually have a "learn 10 standards this year" resolution, so this is perfect. This video has pointed out some good tips that I'm not doing (like learning by ear). Thanks!
That's fantastic Nick! Great goal
When you learned these Melodies by ear did you write them down? I found that I learn it by ear but then when I go to write it down I lose interest cause it gets tedious. I guess I should be more vigilant... but it takes so long.
Two a week? :)
Sounds like a 16hr daily grind.
Jazz takes a lot of Time to learn.
You would be surprised to know that in our Inner Circle courses, we don't implement long practice hours. We believe that jazz music (or any music for that matter) is about quality practice, not quantity. Check out this link to find out more: members.learnjazzstandards.com/sp/inner-circle/
“Play x for me”
Plays 2-5-1.
“You pass!”
Just emailed my mentor and asked if that’s what happened all those years ago…he said no
Thanks for the lesson 🙏🏼🙏🏼