Please understand, he is neither racist or prejudiced. His language is designed to mentally prepare every man. They break them down to build them up better than ever. Things have changed since then but this is how it was. I had breakfast with him in Las Vegas and he is so entertaining. He told the story of how this came about and he sounds like the movie but was so calm and real. Ex marine drill instructor and made it so real.
Don't even try, this is a gen z brainwashed person that claims everything is racism and homophobia. I mean, if you're going to war a few words should mean nothing to you, if those words make you angry or sad then it's not your place to go to war to defend ur country.
@@アキコ2003 Thank you. You are right. I sometimes forget the number of trolls and idiots found on the internet. I think I’m talking to someone with education and a job. My bad.
If you study how brainwashing is done and how army training is done, you will notice they are similar. Some people respond very well to these methods and are happy after them, be it to become cult member or soldier.
BS, Hartman was a sadist who drove an unfit trainee to psychosis, murder, and suicide. He would have been court martialed for his violence against Pyle, and you don't know what you're talking about.
The actor that plays the Drill Instructor was an actual USMC Drill instructor and Vietnam vet. His portrayal is extremely realistic. The portrayal of the USMC in general in this movie is very realistic.
Actually R. Lee Ermey said that Hartman was a horrible Drill Instructor. That he should have recognized what was happening to Pyle and got him out before anything happened.
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline . Tom Boyte GySgt. USMC, retired Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Thank you for your service, sir. I hate that saying. It seems so disingenuous. But, I am thankful. My Marine father served in Korea before you, I am truly happy that it helped you all your life. I don’t think my father (who, coincidentally, had a 30 year police career in the Chicago area after the war) ever truly was the same man as the young kid who had volunteered to serve. He never spoke a single word about his time in the war. Years after his death, I stumbled into a handful of photographs taken by someone in his unit. That showed me why he didn’t want to talk about it. Horrific.
Former Gator sailor here: USS Harpers Ferry LSD-49. 6 years, 2 deployments to the Persian Gulf. I am who I am today thanks to my time in the Navy. It is amazing how military service can shape a man. But also have an understanding of a brotherhood that those haven't served can never understand. Especially when you're buddies you served with begins to pass away. Hoo-Rah!!!
I don't know the writter's intent but I think Lenard "Gomer Pyle" was ment to represent one of "McNamara's morons". It was a program that drafted thousands of lower functioning people into the army, the sales pitch was that they would get skills they could use after they got back to being civilians, but the real result was many couldn't understand the training and most were quickly killed in action.
Wow! I never heard of this. I am going to have to do some research on this. Thanks for that. I came into the Army in the late 80s and had to take the ASVAB to get in and had to have a high school diploma. I could never understand why older people thought anyone could join just because they could walk and carry a rifle. What you said has shed a lot of light on why they thought that. After retiring, it seems there are many out there that still believe the same thing, but a lot less than when I joined.
Thats how it was in the 60's Marine bootcamp it was actually tougher then this movie we had 3 DI's and there was physical hitting which is frowned upon today there may be pushing but the toughest part for me was mental abuse but i made it although i felt like quitting at times 12 weeks of it is enough.
And the latrine scene seem to indicate that Sarge had trained Pvt Pyle beyond the Pvt's operational range...Good Job,, Sarge...your trainees were life-takers,,,right???
I agree with you. This compassion is absolutely genuine and touches me deeply. But we all live in this world. Deadly violence has always been and always will be the companion of humanity. Military drill has its purpose. This trains the soldiers to react properly under stress and fear. The shape shown here was exaggerated and was then banned in the USA in the 1970s. And Private Paula should not have been assigned to such a unit. I think and hope that most armies today do adequate psychological testing. My statements may sound banal and resigned, but I think them truthfully and sensibly. Today and in the centuries and millennia to come.
Pyle had an unrecognized developmental delay. They were cycling recruits through so quickly that they had no means or care for recruits that didn't fit.
The were actually ordered to find recruits who were below a certain I.Q. They saught out the most impressionable and easily swayed. Look up McNamara's millions
My father was in the Vietnam War. My mother’s youngest brother was killed in Vietnam War in 1970. One of the things I noticed about my Dad is that he never talked about Vietnam. He’d talk about the military but he’s always avoided talking about the Vietnam War. If you try to talk to him about the Vietnam War he’ll immediately change the subject. He’s 89 years old and he had a very successful military career. He’s lived a very good life but the Vietnam War is a personal demon that he’s never been able to come to terms with.
has he watched this movie, it might open him up to some positive conversation that might allow him to live the remaining years he has left in peace :-)
Great reaction India, it is a tough watch! The drill sergeant was one in real life. He was originally hired as an adviser to make the film accurate but the director was so impressed by him that he was then cast as the drill sergeant. And yes, all the insults by him were unscripted, he apparently did so for 5 minutes without repeating or stopping in an unedited scene!
Two of my best friends (brothers) dad was a Marine Drill Instructor in the 60's and he had a bunch of cassette tapes of actual Drill Instructors from that Era and yea, they did talk like that back then
as a former United States Marine infantryman (0331) i can honestly say that had Pyle not lost his shit the night before graduation, he'd have gone into the fleet as everything the Corps. wants from one of its riflemen... when he snapped and went nuts, he turned into the perfect Marine.
I can attest that boot camp even for Navy recruits were pretty close to what you see in"Full Metal Jacket". Marines, of course were put through harder PT, but we caught hell from our MEDs which are ex Seals with really bad attitudes. This was a time during VietNam war when recruits were treated harsher because they would be soon sent into combat.
The slurs you hear them using against one another are considered slurs to civilians. In the military the humor is very dark and not run of the mill humor. Even with the scene they are pimping out the woman he is not racist toward him in fact it is the opposite. I would even add the black guy calling the white guy cracker, honky, and other things for more realism lol. You even see Animal Lover try to save 8 ball no hatred at all here. Just wanted to give you context and tell you the only color in the military is green.
Im sure others have mentioned the drill instructor Sgt Hartman. R Lee Ermey played him. He was a genuine Marine Corps Drill Instructor. And he was LEGEND!!
R. Lee Emory was an actual DI for the Marines. He was originally just the military advisor for this movie, but wound up being an actor. He did ab lib for most of his lines. And he did call him Pyle, as in Gomer Pyle.
I appreciate you for sticking through to watch this heart wrenching but amazing realistic movie. It was co-written by Micheal Herr. A lot of the film was based on his book Dispatches. Herr also wrote the narrations for the movie Apocalypse Now.
Thank you for reacting to this movie. This is one of my favorite movies. I especially like R. Lee Ermey's character Sergeant Hartman and Adam Baldwin's character Animal Mother. Their lines were some of the best. Rest in peace to both Stanley Kubrick and Gunnery Sergeant R. Lee Ermey.
Understood the "shock & awe" u had reacting. Stanley Kubrick movies are great, but push u visually & emotionally. We know 1960s were a different time (socially, culturally, militarily). Vietnam War was HORRIBLE (for USA & those there). We can applaud progress since then, but need to look hard at how we've gone back. End of Vietnam War had similarities to today (cultural, social & political division after a long, bloody war). USA recovered in many ways. We're in scarry times now & can only hope Americans will stop wrecking ourselves from within, come together & go fwd (make America stronger & better for ALL our sakes). I watched your Band of Brothers reaction & LOVED it. Best we can do is learn & be objective abt the Good & Bad of our history. Be good People, be good Parents, be good Americans. This way we can move fwd together & make things better.
I can only verify post-Vietnam US Navy POV 1. There are always more than one CC in boot camp (at least in the Navy) where partially recruits can't be abused. Verbal abuse is one thing but physical was a NO GO. 2. Vincent D'Onofrio played the Bug in MIB and had to put on 50lbs for this role 3. Hardman was out of control. Others outside his recruits would have noticed and he would have been held accountable. 4. "I don't know, but I've been told. Eskimo pussy is mighty cold." was used in my Navy recruit company in 1981. 5. In the US Navy real live ammo was always accounted for, and Pyle wouldn't have had it on his person in the head. 6. The lights in the head are always lit. (lighting I suspect). 7. "Blanket parties" were a real deal. We didn't have one because we didn't have a Gomer Pyle. 8. The hooker in Saigon is just distracting them so the motorcycle guys can steal the camera. I saw that happen in the Philippines. 9. "I wouldn't shit you, you're my favorite turd" I've used that. 🤣 10. Even by Hollywood standards, Kubrick went overboard with excessive bloodletting.
@28:08 "what's a kid doing in war?" You are exactly right. Please look up "children soldiers" and ANY search engine and see how many there are TODAY. And take a look at just who it is that is doing it. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
The Drill Sgt, R. Lee Ermey, was originally hired as a consultant. Kubrick was so impressed with him, he was hired to portray the Drill Instructor. Kubrick was going to write dialog for Ermey, but was so impressed with what Ermey improvised, decided to let him improvise most of his dialog.
@23:25 "I thought we were all brothers" Dapping is a practice that started in Vietnam, during the Vietnam war, by African-American soldiers.....the purpose of which was a None Brass developed Secret code / language/ handshake to inform one another when and or who the racist, none trustable soldiers / Lieutenants in the unit were. Also, White soldiers and black soldiers could not do their laundry in the same laundromats on base, as a lot of bases are and were in the South. Source: I pridefully served in the 101st, 327Th Infantry Unit "Bastogne Bulldogs" '92-'96 and I studied
Rip R Lee what a great actor . Boot camp dialog was mostly not scripted because the shit drill sarge says just spilled out of him because he was an actual drill instructor . And stanley went with it . great reaction of you . thank you for not censoring every foul word .
All The training parts of this movie including the rifle ranges etc was filmed at R.A.F Bassinbourn in royston kent england which became a training base for the british army . I did my own training and passing out parade there.
When folks say Kubrick is cold, I will direct them to this reactor's response to Private Joker's brutal hazing. It's the cold steel of his storytelling containing the heat of great performances that generates such emotion in the viewer.
Pyle wasn't his real last name. The drill instructor was giving him the name of a tv show character who was known to be a bit slow and sometimes aloof. The name of that show was Gomer Pyle USMC.
The drill sergeant gave Private Lawrence, the nickname, "Gomer Pyle" because there was television character named that in a couple of tv shows that were around in the 60s, the Andy Griffith Show and Gomer Pyle, USMC. He was a country bumpkin auto mechanic on the AG show and a Marine who could do nothing right on the later show.
Even with the pressure of getting recruits through training, it is unlikely individuals like private pyle would have made it through boot camp. It is my experience in the Navy that drill instructors are trained to not only train the recruits, but to indentify and weed out those who don't belong.
The door gunner that was shooting at the rice farmers, he was hired/ cast to be the Drill Instructor for the first half of the movie. When R Lee saw and heard what was being done for the boot camp scenes (R Lee was a consultant on this film first) he put on his Uniform and did an adlibbed version of the boot camp scene as a surprise for Kubrick, and Kubrick LOVED IT!!! Made him the Drill Instructor on the spot, and they moved the previous guy to a different part of the move... the door gunner.
One that would make you weep is the trench scene and going over the top in Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory. Three men chosen by lots to die by firing squad for the retreat against an impossible attack. That actually happened too in an attack, and men were shot for cowardice. As for that war, World War One, I knew very well a number of veterans who took part in it in my early life. Old men at that time they were the salt of the earth, and lived to great ages. Men who you could trust with your life.
Glad to see you back. This and "Platoon" may be the two hardest Vietnam movies to watch. For something a little less dark, you might want to try reacting to some of "the Fat Electrician's" UA-cam vids.
The boot camp scene is pretty accurate my grandpa was in the Marines in the Vietnam war and he was kicked down a flight of stairs by the instructor for being the last out of the barracks
Thank you for watching these kinds of movies. They are hard to watch. I have watched full metal jacke many times, but the one move or series that gets me is Band of Brothers. OMG, soooo hard, soooo real, especially the documentary/interviews.
This was normal training back in the 60's. It has changed now, but they still get on you. In real life you have 3 DI's and they swarm on you like sharks that smell blood. One smells blood the other 2 join in. I think some of the greatest ones I've heard is telling someone they looked like 55 gallons of splattered ass, and the infamous Pillsbury Dough Douche.
Another great Vietnam war movie is Hamburger Hill. It is one of my all time favorites and shows a different way the war played out from this one. It's another hard watch but was done really well.
This was an incredible film. When you look at the sets, and all the moving parts, you say: 'How and where did they do that?'' It's two films in one. The first half is getting through Marine Corps boot camp and the second half is being in Vietnam. A 10/10 film imo.
Platoon by Oliver Stone, based on his own experiences in Vietnam, is the most realistic movie out there as that’s what he set out to do, plus a lot more racial harmony “brotherhood” which you’ll find in the service. Stone already won an Oscar for another movie and directed another jungle movie, Sandinista, so he knew what he was doing. Full Metal Jacket wax based mostly on a well selling Vietnam War memoir too called “the Short-Timers” but the helicopter scene was from war correspondent Micheal Herr’s Dispatches. The director, Kubrick, was known for “improving” the writing to bring out “inherent evil” that is natural in things and systems, so that’s probably why you were so affected by some of the scenes. You should also try Kubrick’s 1967 take on AI (artificial intelligence) in 2001: A Space Odyssey.. which predicted what we fear today.
"Hamburger Hill" was far more realistic than "Platoon". "Platoon" made such a big splash because it was a very good movie, but more importantly it was the first major movie which dealt with Vietnam since the end of the war.
One of the most amazing thing about this movie is that he entire Vietnam scenes were filmed in London, England. Kubrick's set designers are legendary. The ending with them singing the Mickey Mouse show theme shows that this film is to show that war is Mickey Mouse.
Yes it was a Mickey Mouse effort. Nobody wanted to start WWIII, but all the same nobodies, wanted to appear "weak"to the folks back home. So these little half assed "wars", were all they were willing to go for. I guarantee you they weren't half assed to the men in the field, or the B52 crews out of Guam, dropping ordnance with pinpoint precision on the target, and hitting nothing worthwhile.
India R.Lee and my dad served in the same era of the 60s. My dad with Air Force and he was Marines. But this was all true. My dad saw the blunt end of War. Because he was a Medvac nurse. And yes he was on the ground. He just recently passed away 6 months ago from lung cancer. But he told me the Forrest Gump Vietnam scences. And this one was the most accurate of basic training back. then and now I have two nephews who are former Marines. And a niece in the Navy. And i served too. Along with my uncle Billy,Paul, Mickey,Chris and Roy.
Here is some trivia about the movie, according the IMDb: R. Lee Ermey (Gunnery Sgt. Hartman) once said in an interview that Vincent D'Onofrio's (Private Pyle) performance was the best part of the movie. Vincent D'Onofrio gained 70 pounds to play the part of Private Pyle, which is the record for the most weight anyone has ever gained for a role in a movie In order to make Gunnery Sgt. Hartman's performance and the recruits' reaction more genuine, the actors playing the recruits never met R. Lee Ermey before filming started, and Kubrick saw to it that Ermey did not fraternize with the other actors between takes. Vincent D'Onofrio tore the ligaments in his knee on the obstacle course due to the weight he had put on. R. Lee Ermey had to explain to Stanley Kubrick what a "reach around" was, When Ermey told him, Kubrick laughed and kept it in the film. R. Lee Ermey was in a jeep accident during filming and broke all his ribs on his left side. This is why in some scenes he never moves his arm. R. Lee Ermey hardly ever blinks in any of his scenes. In his memoirs, Matthew Modine (Joker) said he asked Kubrick for a day off so he could be in the hospital with his wife, who was pregnant and had to deliver her baby by c-section, since Modine didn't have any scenes that day, but Kubrick didn't want Modine to go, telling him he'd pass out from the blood and get in the doctors' way. Modine took a knife and threatened to cut his own hand if Kubrick didn't let him go, so Kubrick changed his mind and let him go. R. Lee Ermey has said in many interviews that his performance of Hartman was supposed to be an example of how a Drill Inspector should NOT act. According to him, a Drill Sergeant would never physically abuse his recruits and he would have been able to tell that Pyle was having a mental breakdown. Some of the lines in the scene where Joker and Ratterman (Kevyn Major Howard) were approached by the Vietnamese prostitute were sampled by controversial rap group 2 Live Crew in their song "Me So Horny" from their album "As Nasty as They Want to Be" In the scene where Hartman slaps Pyle, Vincent D'Onofrio, a method actor, told R. Lee Ermey to hit him for real to make the scene more realistic.
I’m sure that being in the Marine Corps in the 1960’s would have been pretty rough. The D.I.’s probably got away with a whole lot then more than they do now. But I bet they still get away with some crap today.
John Wayne, the “Duke.” Famous movie actor. He was what symbolized the virtue of the American masculine manly man. He was an American culture icon from back in the 1950’s, 60’s, and 70’s. His genre of movies was American westerns and war movies that represented various historical moments in American history, for example: The Civil War, World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, and the Vietnam War. In many of his movies, mostly the westerns, it also entailed him being romantically involved in a romance. You should look into his movies.
When someone is struggling its up to his teammates to help him! Thats why they punish everyone but the offender so his teammates bring him along, when they never improve, sometimes they hold whats called a blanket party!
Hello 😊❤ I remember when I saw the movie for the first time, I liked it a lot, there are funny moments, My grandparents' Cass has the VHS version of the movie and it is a historical relic of cinema, At home I have the physical editions DVD, Blu-Ray, UHD 📼🎥🍿 A few months ago I was in the controversy over this film because they wanted to remove it from the HBO Max catalog in many countries due to its offensive humor and the issue of strong swear words that are currently sensitive. In the end they did not remove it from the catalog but before When you start the movie on HBO Max there is a warning message that the movie contains strong swear words and sensitive topics 😱 What do you think of this?
@@Gonzalo_Almendra Oh so you find misandry funny but have plenty to say on misogyny. I've realised you are a fraud. All this "it degrades women!" shit, which you say when no woman has been degraded, is clearly your pathetic shtick, trying to latch onto India or hope she might link you...loool good luck.
The average person is lacking the facts about the Vietnam War Era. It's a lot but well worth the read. I'm going to put to rest some myths about the Vietnam War. The average American is lacking the facts about the Vietnam War Era. It's a lot but well worth the read. The average age of those killed in action was 23 and not 19 as was widely reported by the media and those opposed to the war.The average age of an infantrymen serving in-country was 22 and not 19 as was erroneously reported by the media. The average of an infantryman in WW II was 26. Here are facts about Vietnam they still won't teach you in school. Many myths and lies have circulated for decades about the Vietnam War. The Tet Offensive was a U. S. victory and a disaster for the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese. The Viet Cong were decimated following Tet. America did not lose the war in Vietnam, the South Vietnamese did. The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years after the last American combat troops left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973. How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of U.S. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, not American military running for their lives. The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. General Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike (a professor at the University of California, Berkeley), a major military defeat for the VC and NVA. As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S. forces. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is considered by some as ranking with Wellington, Grant, Lee and MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements in South Vietnam. The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only one front and that was the News front and the political arena. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth. However, inaccurately reported, the News Media made the Tet Offensive famous. Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better. Average age of 47,522 killed in action Vietnam was 23.11 years (Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 databases, only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Event date is used instead of declared dead date for some of those who were listed as missing in action). The average soldier/Marine in WW II saw an average of 40 days of combat during a 12-month period. In Vietnam, the average was 240 days during a 12-month tour. Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age. 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers. 2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. Approximately 70% of those killed in Vietnam were volunteers
To understand the Marine Corp boot camp at this time. You have to understand that the bootcamp was 14 weeks long. But because of the demand for Marines in Vietnam. The bootcamp had been shortened to 11 weeks. While the DRill Instructors stll had to teach the entire 14 week course in 11 weeks. DIs simply did not have time. So if a slap across the face or a quick jab in the solar plexus drove the point home. Lives were on the line. The character Leonard was a representation of the 48IQ . Before this time if you had an IQ of 48 and lower you could not join or be drafted into.the military Because as 48 IQ you simply do not have the abilities needed for a soldier. They could barely take care of themselves. But during the Vietnam war it was changed to a lower number in oreder to allow more bodies to go to war.
I just love how soft-hearted and empathetic you are. I knew this would be a hard thing for you to watch when you cried at the hazing scene. You held out well until the end. But that's just how people really spoke to each other back then, slurs and all, unfortunately.
Did you notice Papa from Stranger Things? Matthew Modine is actually a very nice person in real life. Another good movie with him is Pacific Heights with Melanie Griffith and Michael Keaton.
Full Metal Jacket is an relatively realistic movie regarding its time period,... Vietnam created a lot of damage to a lot of men and women in uniform during the 60's and early 70's in America. PTSD is real!!!
It’s such a hard movie to watch I went thru what you went thru when I first saw it. We all probably did. Thanks for sharing your reaction. For another classic Vietnam movie I recommend Apocalypse Now.
R. Lee. Ermey the drill instructor. Wasn't supposed to be on camera. He was on set as an advisor cuz he was a real DI in the late 60's the guy shooting out the helicopter was the actor originally hired for the DI roll. But he couldn't get his voice right or be convincingly angry enough so the director said fuck it and stuck Ermey in. Rest in peace Sargeant!!
The drills are like that during this kind of training because it was a time of war. They were on a time crunch, so they had no time to bullshit. A punch to the gut, or a slap in the face was usually enough to drive the point home.
When you first said "when will he explode" you saw what could happen.... and then your reaction during the bathroom scene...Youi get it... this is why I just subscribed...amazing!!!!
The reason he yelled at Pyle before getting shot was he knew he wasn’t going to put the gun down so he went out like all Marines do, loud and hard as nails. And I bet he wouldn’t have it any other way since he knew that was the unfortunate end.
The sniper is supposed to be a 12yr old girl. War is ugly. Vietnam went through so much already by the time our troops were deployed and initially, they weren't there for war but a role of keeping the peace but of course, that never works.
I always want to get it and do push ups, set ups and whatever the military could give me but unfortunately I broke my back getting the squat record at my school doing 565 Olympic weights! I ran a 4.4 40 yard dash and had all the physical attributes to be High upin military. My buddy was an airborne ranger but got a medical discharge from rupturing his scrotum on his first jump. All that said to say, just do what you love to do no matter what! Don't just give in to the world!!! Be your own person! Shalom!!!
For all the work they did to disguise the fact that this film was entirely made in England, they did miss something...when they are running in formation around the training base, you can see the road markings at junctions are still for traffic that drives on the left.
All military training is (and should be) tough. The Marines take to a new level. Though I was a squid and not a jarhead, we had a saying that "the more we sweat in peace, the less we bleed in war." Although many standards have fallen in the last few years, the marine still provide excellent training. When they are deployed, they tend to survive better than soldiers. Air Force an navy deployments are generally very different so it's not fair to compare them. I don't have what it takes to be a marine but I do remember that a Marine master gunner (a warrant officer) was the most frightening person I ever met while I was a midshipman. My best friend who was commissioned as a Marine officer says that same Master Gunner still scared the *&^(* out of him after he got commissioned.
Please understand, he is neither racist or prejudiced. His language is designed to mentally prepare every man. They break them down to build them up better than ever. Things have changed since then but this is how it was. I had breakfast with him in Las Vegas and he is so entertaining. He told the story of how this came about and he sounds like the movie but was so calm and real. Ex marine drill instructor and made it so real.
"Things have changed since then..." into worse and worse that's for sure.
Don't even try, this is a gen z brainwashed person that claims everything is racism and homophobia.
I mean, if you're going to war a few words should mean nothing to you, if those words make you angry or sad then it's not your place to go to war to defend ur country.
@@アキコ2003 Thank you. You are right. I sometimes forget the number of trolls and idiots found on the internet. I think I’m talking to someone with education and a job. My bad.
If you study how brainwashing is done and how army training is done, you will notice they are similar. Some people respond very well to these methods and are happy after them, be it to become cult member or soldier.
BS, Hartman was a sadist who drove an unfit trainee to psychosis, murder, and suicide. He would have been court martialed for his violence against Pyle, and you don't know what you're talking about.
The actor that plays the Drill Instructor was an actual USMC Drill instructor and Vietnam vet. His portrayal is extremely realistic. The portrayal of the USMC in general in this movie is very realistic.
Actually R. Lee Ermey said that Hartman was a horrible Drill Instructor. That he should have recognized what was happening to Pyle and got him out before anything happened.
@@kizunadragon9 yeah
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline .
Tom Boyte
GySgt. USMC, retired
Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Thank you for your service, sir. I hate that saying. It seems so disingenuous. But, I am thankful. My Marine father served in Korea before you, I am truly happy that it helped you all your life. I don’t think my father (who, coincidentally, had a 30 year police career in the Chicago area after the war) ever truly was the same man as the young kid who had volunteered to serve. He never spoke a single word about his time in the war. Years after his death, I stumbled into a handful of photographs taken by someone in his unit. That showed me why he didn’t want to talk about it. Horrific.
Thank you for your service, Gunny.
Thank you for all you’ve done
Former Gator sailor here: USS Harpers Ferry LSD-49. 6 years, 2 deployments to the Persian Gulf. I am who I am today thanks to my time in the Navy. It is amazing how military service can shape a man. But also have an understanding of a brotherhood that those haven't served can never understand. Especially when you're buddies you served with begins to pass away.
Hoo-Rah!!!
@@johnrichmond7739 Thank you for your service, John.
True Americans appreciate it.
The Drill Instructor used to be a real Drill Instructor. R. Lee Ermey.
I don't know the writter's intent but I think Lenard "Gomer Pyle" was ment to represent one of "McNamara's morons". It was a program that drafted thousands of lower functioning people into the army, the sales pitch was that they would get skills they could use after they got back to being civilians, but the real result was many couldn't understand the training and most were quickly killed in action.
Wow! I never heard of this. I am going to have to do some research on this. Thanks for that. I came into the Army in the late 80s and had to take the ASVAB to get in and had to have a high school diploma. I could never understand why older people thought anyone could join just because they could walk and carry a rifle. What you said has shed a lot of light on why they thought that. After retiring, it seems there are many out there that still believe the same thing, but a lot less than when I joined.
The boot camp scenes are the most realistic I’ve ever seen, at least from the experience at that time.
Absolutely, no one went through the Island watching that movie and not knowing R Lee was the real deal, you can't act what he brought.
Was a hard one
Thats how it was in the 60's Marine bootcamp it was actually tougher then this movie we had 3 DI's and there was physical hitting which is frowned upon today there may be pushing but the toughest part for me was mental abuse but i made it although i felt like quitting at times 12 weeks of it is enough.
And the latrine scene seem to indicate that Sarge had trained Pvt Pyle beyond the Pvt's operational range...Good Job,, Sarge...your trainees were life-takers,,,right???
I was so disappointed when I went through.... I wanted that experience... I wanted to be a killing machine.
Great reaction video. It shows your genuine humanity and your overall sorrow for the individuals involved. I appreciate that.
I agree with you. This compassion is absolutely genuine and touches me deeply.
But we all live in this world. Deadly violence has always been and always will be the companion of humanity. Military drill has its purpose. This trains the soldiers to react properly under stress and fear. The shape shown here was exaggerated and was then banned in the USA in the 1970s. And Private Paula should not have been assigned to such a unit. I think and hope that most armies today do adequate psychological testing.
My statements may sound banal and resigned, but I think them truthfully and sensibly. Today and in the centuries and millennia to come.
Pyle had an unrecognized developmental delay. They were cycling recruits through so quickly that they had no means or care for recruits that didn't fit.
they were ordered by congress to shave a 13 week boot camp down to 8... corners were cut, unfortunately.
The were actually ordered to find recruits who were below a certain I.Q.
They saught out the most impressionable and easily swayed.
Look up McNamara's millions
"Mcnamaras idiots" to be precise
My father was in the Vietnam War. My mother’s youngest brother was killed in Vietnam War in 1970. One of the things I noticed about my Dad is that he never talked about Vietnam. He’d talk about the military but he’s always avoided talking about the Vietnam War. If you try to talk to him about the Vietnam War he’ll immediately change the subject. He’s 89 years old and he had a very successful military career. He’s lived a very good life but the Vietnam War is a personal demon that he’s never been able to come to terms with.
has he watched this movie, it might open him up to some positive conversation that might allow him to live the remaining years he has left in peace :-)
I’m a Marine veteran, and you crying for Pyle made me felt a certain way. Great reaction.
"some people can only take so much."
Yeah man, I felt that.
This was one of the most accurate portrayals of Vietnam and the military of that era, war made people into survivors and bullies.
Great reaction India, it is a tough watch! The drill sergeant was one in real life. He was originally hired as an adviser to make the film accurate but the director was so impressed by him that he was then cast as the drill sergeant. And yes, all the insults by him were unscripted, he apparently did so for 5 minutes without repeating or stopping in an unedited scene!
The original DI ended up being recast as the helicopter door gunner
Two of my best friends (brothers) dad was a Marine Drill Instructor in the 60's and he had a bunch of cassette tapes of actual Drill Instructors from that Era and yea, they did talk like that back then
This is a hard movie to watch for the first time, and I think you did a great job.
Another one is " Apocolypse Now " & " The Deer Hunter " 👍
as a former United States Marine infantryman (0331) i can honestly say that had Pyle not lost his shit the night before graduation, he'd have gone into the fleet as everything the Corps. wants from one of its riflemen... when he snapped and went nuts, he turned into the perfect Marine.
I can attest that boot camp even for Navy recruits were pretty close to what you see in"Full Metal Jacket". Marines, of course were put through harder PT, but we caught hell from our MEDs
which are ex Seals with really bad attitudes. This was a time during VietNam war when recruits were treated harsher because they would be soon sent into combat.
The slurs you hear them using against one another are considered slurs to civilians. In the military the humor is very dark and not run of the mill humor. Even with the scene they are pimping out the woman he is not racist toward him in fact it is the opposite. I would even add the black guy calling the white guy cracker, honky, and other things for more realism lol. You even see Animal Lover try to save 8 ball no hatred at all here. Just wanted to give you context and tell you the only color in the military is green.
Animal Mother... lol
Great reaction, natural reaction, nothing to apologize for.
Im sure others have mentioned the drill instructor Sgt Hartman. R Lee Ermey played him. He was a genuine Marine Corps Drill Instructor. And he was LEGEND!!
This isn't a war movie. It's an anti-war movie. The things you see, that you hate, are the point.
R. Lee Emory was an actual DI for the Marines. He was originally just the military advisor for this movie, but wound up being an actor. He did ab lib for most of his lines. And he did call him Pyle, as in Gomer Pyle.
The youngest living American of the Vietnam War today is 68 years old.
I appreciate you for sticking through to watch this heart wrenching but amazing realistic movie.
It was co-written by Micheal Herr. A lot of the film was based on his book Dispatches.
Herr also wrote the narrations for the movie Apocalypse Now.
Also, The Short Timers.
Private Pile was Thor in adventures in babysitting. Edgar in Men in black. The kingpin in Daredevil. But, I loved him in Emerald City.
Thank you for reacting to this movie. This is one of my favorite movies. I especially like R. Lee Ermey's character Sergeant Hartman and Adam Baldwin's character Animal Mother. Their lines were some of the best. Rest in peace to both Stanley Kubrick and Gunnery Sergeant R. Lee Ermey.
Understood the "shock & awe" u had reacting. Stanley Kubrick movies are great, but push u visually & emotionally. We know 1960s were a different time (socially, culturally, militarily). Vietnam War was HORRIBLE (for USA & those there). We can applaud progress since then, but need to look hard at how we've gone back. End of Vietnam War had similarities to today (cultural, social & political division after a long, bloody war). USA recovered in many ways. We're in scarry times now & can only hope Americans will stop wrecking ourselves from within, come together & go fwd (make America stronger & better for ALL our sakes). I watched your Band of Brothers reaction & LOVED it. Best we can do is learn & be objective abt the Good & Bad of our history. Be good People, be good Parents, be good Americans. This way we can move fwd together & make things better.
didnt think youd be so moved by pyles arc. youre beautiful indi inside and out.
I can only verify post-Vietnam US Navy POV
1. There are always more than one CC in boot camp (at least in the Navy) where partially recruits can't be abused. Verbal abuse is one thing but physical was a NO GO.
2. Vincent D'Onofrio played the Bug in MIB and had to put on 50lbs for this role
3. Hardman was out of control. Others outside his recruits would have noticed and he would have been held accountable.
4. "I don't know, but I've been told. Eskimo pussy is mighty cold." was used in my Navy recruit company in 1981.
5. In the US Navy real live ammo was always accounted for, and Pyle wouldn't have had it on his person in the head.
6. The lights in the head are always lit. (lighting I suspect).
7. "Blanket parties" were a real deal. We didn't have one because we didn't have a Gomer Pyle.
8. The hooker in Saigon is just distracting them so the motorcycle guys can steal the camera. I saw that happen in the Philippines.
9. "I wouldn't shit you, you're my favorite turd" I've used that. 🤣
10. Even by Hollywood standards, Kubrick went overboard with excessive bloodletting.
Been there done that. The best movie from Hollywood about life in boot camp. Semper Fi.
@28:08 "what's a kid doing in war?" You are exactly right. Please look up "children soldiers" and ANY search engine and see how many there are TODAY. And take a look at just who it is that is doing it. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
Animal Mother did say racist stuff but he went and put his life on the line against direct orders to help 8-Ball later.
The Drill Sgt, R. Lee Ermey, was originally hired as a consultant. Kubrick was so impressed with him, he was hired to portray the Drill Instructor. Kubrick was going to write dialog for Ermey, but was so impressed with what Ermey improvised, decided to let him improvise most of his dialog.
@23:25 "I thought we were all brothers" Dapping is a practice that started in Vietnam, during the Vietnam war, by African-American soldiers.....the purpose of which was a None Brass developed Secret code / language/ handshake to inform one another when and or who the racist, none trustable soldiers / Lieutenants in the unit were.
Also, White soldiers and black soldiers could not do their laundry in the same laundromats on base, as a lot of bases are and were in the South.
Source: I pridefully served in the 101st, 327Th Infantry Unit "Bastogne Bulldogs" '92-'96 and I studied
Rip R Lee what a great actor . Boot camp dialog was mostly not scripted because the shit drill sarge says just spilled out of him because he was an actual drill instructor . And stanley went with it . great reaction of you . thank you for not censoring every foul word .
All The training parts of this movie including the rifle ranges etc was filmed at R.A.F Bassinbourn in royston kent england which became a training base for the british army . I did my own training and passing out parade there.
When folks say Kubrick is cold, I will direct them to this reactor's response to Private Joker's brutal hazing. It's the cold steel of his storytelling containing the heat of great performances that generates such emotion in the viewer.
The boot camp scenes were only a portion of what really goes on. USMC '66-'70, Semper Fi brothers.
Pyle wasn't his real last name. The drill instructor was giving him the name of a tv show character who was known to be a bit slow and sometimes aloof. The name of that show was Gomer Pyle USMC.
Yeah had a friend go through Army Ranger Bat. in the early nineties with the last name of Pyle. Can you imagine the extra crap he ate.
I can only imagine.@@sword-and-shield
Well of course it wasn't his real name. Didn't you hear "Pvt Joker"ask, "are those live rounds Leonard?".
The drill sergeant gave Private Lawrence, the nickname, "Gomer Pyle" because there was television character named that in a couple of tv shows that were around in the 60s, the Andy Griffith Show and Gomer Pyle, USMC. He was a country bumpkin auto mechanic on the AG show and a Marine who could do nothing right on the later show.
Even with the pressure of getting recruits through training, it is unlikely individuals like private pyle would have made it through boot camp. It is my experience in the Navy that drill instructors are trained to not only train the recruits, but to indentify and weed out those who don't belong.
'Apocalypse Now' and 'Platoon' are great Vietnam films that are a lot different from this film and each other.
The door gunner that was shooting at the rice farmers, he was hired/ cast to be the Drill Instructor for the first half of the movie. When R Lee saw and heard what was being done for the boot camp scenes (R Lee was a consultant on this film first) he put on his Uniform and did an adlibbed version of the boot camp scene as a surprise for Kubrick, and Kubrick LOVED IT!!! Made him the Drill Instructor on the spot, and they moved the previous guy to a different part of the move... the door gunner.
One that would make you weep is the trench scene and going over the top in Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory. Three men chosen by lots to die by firing squad for the retreat against an impossible attack. That actually happened too in an attack, and men were shot for cowardice.
As for that war, World War One, I knew very well a number of veterans who took part in it in my early life. Old men at that time they were the salt of the earth, and lived to great ages. Men who you could trust with your life.
Glad to see you back. This and "Platoon" may be the two hardest Vietnam movies to watch.
For something a little less dark, you might want to try reacting to some of "the Fat Electrician's" UA-cam vids.
They had to be turned into killing machines if they had the slightest chance of making it home outside a bodybag
Invading foreign countries is rarely easy.
R. Lee Ermey who played Sgnt. Hartman was once a real Marine sgnt./D.I. He made up many of his own lines and brought realism to the movie.
The boot camp scene is pretty accurate my grandpa was in the Marines in the Vietnam war and he was kicked down a flight of stairs by the instructor for being the last out of the barracks
The expression on ya face said it all. Love your reaction ✌️
Just found your channel, that intro was total FIRE. Had to comment before we even got to the content.
Thank you for watching these kinds of movies. They are hard to watch. I have watched full metal jacke many times, but the one move or series that gets me is Band of Brothers. OMG, soooo hard, soooo real, especially the documentary/interviews.
Love from Nebraska ❤ Thanks for sharing
This was normal training back in the 60's. It has changed now, but they still get on you. In real life you have 3 DI's and they swarm on you like sharks that smell blood. One smells blood the other 2 join in. I think some of the greatest ones I've heard is telling someone they looked like 55 gallons of splattered ass, and the infamous Pillsbury Dough Douche.
Another great Vietnam war movie is Hamburger Hill. It is one of my all time favorites and shows a different way the war played out from this one. It's another hard watch but was done really well.
I was 16 when this movie came out and saw it with my Dad who was in the military during Vietnam. The opening scene he was laughing his head off.
This was an incredible film. When you look at the sets, and all the moving parts, you say: 'How and where did they do that?'' It's two films in one. The first half is getting through Marine Corps boot camp and the second half is being in Vietnam. A 10/10 film imo.
Platoon by Oliver Stone, based on his own experiences in Vietnam, is the most realistic movie out there as that’s what he set out to do, plus a lot more racial harmony “brotherhood” which you’ll find in the service. Stone already won an Oscar for another movie and directed another jungle movie, Sandinista, so he knew what he was doing.
Full Metal Jacket wax based mostly on a well selling Vietnam War memoir too called “the Short-Timers” but the helicopter scene was from war correspondent Micheal Herr’s Dispatches. The director, Kubrick, was known for “improving” the writing to bring out “inherent evil” that is natural in things and systems, so that’s probably why you were so affected by some of the scenes. You should also try Kubrick’s 1967 take on AI (artificial intelligence) in 2001: A Space Odyssey.. which predicted what we fear today.
"Hamburger Hill" was far more realistic than "Platoon". "Platoon" made such a big splash because it was a very good movie, but more importantly it was the first major movie which dealt with Vietnam since the end of the war.
The other Vietnam movies you should see are Platoon, Apocalypse Now, Hamburger Hill, and Tigerland
One of the most amazing thing about this movie is that he entire Vietnam scenes were filmed in London, England. Kubrick's set designers are legendary. The ending with them singing the Mickey Mouse show theme shows that this film is to show that war is Mickey Mouse.
Yes it was a Mickey Mouse effort. Nobody wanted to start WWIII, but all the same nobodies, wanted to appear "weak"to the folks back home. So these little half assed "wars", were all they were willing to go for. I guarantee you they weren't half assed to the men in the field, or the B52 crews out of Guam, dropping ordnance with pinpoint precision on the target, and hitting nothing worthwhile.
R. Lee Ermy who played Sgt. Hartman was once a real marine d.i. and came up with a lot of his own lines. He was a true bad ass.
India R.Lee and my dad served in the same era of the 60s. My dad with Air Force and he was Marines. But this was all true. My dad saw the blunt end of War. Because he was a Medvac nurse. And yes he was on the ground. He just recently passed away 6 months ago from lung cancer. But he told me the Forrest Gump Vietnam scences. And this one was the most accurate of basic training back. then and now I have two nephews who are former Marines. And a niece in the Navy. And i served too. Along with my uncle Billy,Paul, Mickey,Chris and Roy.
The drill instructor did read a script. That was him doing what he did when he was a DI during Vietnam. R. Lee Ermey was one of a kind
I've heard and read that the M16 had a malfunction of jamming as it jammed on Joker. Great reaction thank you.
Here is some trivia about the movie, according the IMDb:
R. Lee Ermey (Gunnery Sgt. Hartman) once said in an interview that Vincent D'Onofrio's (Private Pyle) performance was the best part of the movie.
Vincent D'Onofrio gained 70 pounds to play the part of Private Pyle, which is the record for the most weight anyone has ever gained for a role in a movie
In order to make Gunnery Sgt. Hartman's performance and the recruits' reaction more genuine, the actors playing the recruits never met R. Lee Ermey before filming started, and Kubrick saw to it that Ermey did not fraternize with the other actors between takes.
Vincent D'Onofrio tore the ligaments in his knee on the obstacle course due to the weight he had put on.
R. Lee Ermey had to explain to Stanley Kubrick what a "reach around" was, When Ermey told him, Kubrick laughed and kept it in the film.
R. Lee Ermey was in a jeep accident during filming and broke all his ribs on his left side. This is why in some scenes he never moves his arm.
R. Lee Ermey hardly ever blinks in any of his scenes.
In his memoirs, Matthew Modine (Joker) said he asked Kubrick for a day off so he could be in the hospital with his wife, who was pregnant and had to deliver her baby by c-section, since Modine didn't have any scenes that day, but Kubrick didn't want Modine to go, telling him he'd pass out from the blood and get in the doctors' way. Modine took a knife and threatened to cut his own hand if Kubrick didn't let him go, so Kubrick changed his mind and let him go.
R. Lee Ermey has said in many interviews that his performance of Hartman was supposed to be an example of how a Drill Inspector should NOT act. According to him, a Drill Sergeant would never physically abuse his recruits and he would have been able to tell that Pyle was having a mental breakdown.
Some of the lines in the scene where Joker and Ratterman (Kevyn Major Howard) were approached by the Vietnamese prostitute were sampled by controversial rap group 2 Live Crew in their song "Me So Horny" from their album "As Nasty as They Want to Be"
In the scene where Hartman slaps Pyle, Vincent D'Onofrio, a method actor, told R. Lee Ermey to hit him for real to make the scene more realistic.
I’m sure that being in the Marine Corps in the 1960’s would have been pretty rough. The D.I.’s probably got away with a whole lot then more than they do now. But I bet they still get away with some crap today.
The guy in the helicopter "Get Some!" was the actor originally hired to be the drill instructor.
Love this movie for the realism,Stanley’s best😊
I still remember how disturbed I was when I saw this for the first time.
John Wayne, the “Duke.” Famous movie actor. He was what symbolized the virtue of the American masculine manly man. He was an American culture icon from back in the 1950’s, 60’s, and 70’s. His genre of movies was American westerns and war movies that represented various historical moments in American history, for example: The Civil War, World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, and the Vietnam War. In many of his movies, mostly the westerns, it also entailed him being romantically involved in a romance. You should look into his movies.
When someone is struggling its up to his teammates to help him! Thats why they punish everyone but the offender so his teammates bring him along, when they never improve, sometimes they hold whats called a blanket party!
Have loved your reactions for the last couple of years and continue to do so, ma'am.
Keep 'em coming.
Best one in my opinion. Platoon is another good one.
"What's a kid doing in war?" In this case, it's just a girl defending her town from hostile foreign invaders.
Good reaction video!
Thank you for reviewing this great movie.
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I remember when I saw the movie for the first time, I liked it a lot, there are funny moments, My grandparents' Cass has the VHS version of the movie and it is a historical relic of cinema, At home I have the physical editions DVD, Blu-Ray, UHD 📼🎥🍿
A few months ago I was in the controversy over this film because they wanted to remove it from the HBO Max catalog in many countries due to its offensive humor and the issue of strong swear words that are currently sensitive. In the end they did not remove it from the catalog but before When you start the movie on HBO Max there is a warning message that the movie contains strong swear words and sensitive topics 😱
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@@Gonzalo_Almendra Oh so you find misandry funny but have plenty to say on misogyny.
I've realised you are a fraud. All this "it degrades women!" shit, which you say when no woman has been degraded, is clearly your pathetic shtick, trying to latch onto India or hope she might link you...loool good luck.
Watching movies with young people is just as much fun as watching movies with my republican grandparents. 🤣
The guy who played DI in this film was the same guy who played old Sheriff Pike in the film Life.
The average person is lacking the facts about the Vietnam War Era. It's a lot but well worth the read. I'm going to put to rest some myths about the Vietnam War. The average American is lacking the facts about the Vietnam War Era. It's a lot but well worth the read. The average age of those killed in action was 23 and not 19 as was widely reported by the media and those opposed to the war.The average age of an infantrymen serving in-country was 22 and not 19 as was erroneously reported by the media. The average of an infantryman in WW II was 26. Here are facts about Vietnam they still won't teach you in school. Many myths and lies have circulated for decades about the Vietnam War. The Tet Offensive was a U. S. victory and a disaster for the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese. The Viet Cong were decimated following Tet.
America did not lose the war in Vietnam, the South Vietnamese did. The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years after the last American combat troops left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973.
How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of U.S. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, not American military running for their lives. The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. General Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike (a professor at the University of California, Berkeley), a major military defeat for the VC and NVA.
As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S. forces. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is considered by some as ranking with Wellington, Grant, Lee and MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements in South Vietnam. The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only one front and that was the News front and the political arena. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth. However, inaccurately reported, the News Media made the Tet Offensive famous.
Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better. Average age of 47,522 killed in action Vietnam was 23.11 years (Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 databases, only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Event date is used instead of declared dead date for some of those who were listed as missing in action). The average soldier/Marine in WW II saw an average of 40 days of combat during a 12-month period. In Vietnam, the average was 240 days during a 12-month tour. Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age. 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers. 2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. Approximately 70% of those killed in Vietnam were volunteers
the "me so horny" line, was used in a rap song
To understand the Marine Corp boot camp at this time. You have to understand that the bootcamp was 14 weeks long. But because of the demand for Marines in Vietnam. The bootcamp had been shortened to 11 weeks. While the DRill Instructors stll had to teach the entire 14 week course in 11 weeks. DIs simply did not have time. So if a slap across the face or a quick jab in the solar plexus drove the point home. Lives were on the line.
The character Leonard was a representation of the 48IQ . Before this time if you had an IQ of 48 and lower you could not join or be drafted into.the military
Because as 48 IQ you simply do not have the abilities needed for a soldier. They could barely take care of themselves. But during the Vietnam war it was changed to a lower number in oreder to allow more bodies to go to war.
I just love how soft-hearted and empathetic you are. I knew this would be a hard thing for you to watch when you cried at the hazing scene. You held out well until the end. But that's just how people really spoke to each other back then, slurs and all, unfortunately.
Did you notice Papa from Stranger Things? Matthew Modine is actually a very nice person in real life. Another good movie with him is Pacific Heights with Melanie Griffith and Michael Keaton.
Full Metal Jacket is an relatively realistic movie regarding its time period,... Vietnam created a lot of damage to a lot of men and women in uniform during the 60's and early 70's in America. PTSD is real!!!
Yeah this one is tough, but a very great film
True, "they are all brothers", then you do call names and it just confirms that you are close.
It’s such a hard movie to watch I went thru what you went thru when I first saw it. We all probably did. Thanks for sharing your reaction. For another classic Vietnam movie I recommend Apocalypse Now.
Thanks for reacting and making it through this. ✌️
"What's going to make you explode?"
7.62mm full metal jacket 😛
R. Lee. Ermey the drill instructor. Wasn't supposed to be on camera. He was on set as an advisor cuz he was a real DI in the late 60's the guy shooting out the helicopter was the actor originally hired for the DI roll. But he couldn't get his voice right or be convincingly angry enough so the director said fuck it and stuck Ermey in. Rest in peace Sargeant!!
The drills are like that during this kind of training because it was a time of war. They were on a time crunch, so they had no time to bullshit. A punch to the gut, or a slap in the face was usually enough to drive the point home.
What the barracks did to Leonard is explainable and obvious, but it was wrong.
Yo India you're cool as hell!
When you first said "when will he explode" you saw what could happen.... and then your reaction during the bathroom scene...Youi get it... this is why I just subscribed...amazing!!!!
The reason he yelled at Pyle before getting shot was he knew he wasn’t going to put the gun down so he went out like all Marines do, loud and hard as nails. And I bet he wouldn’t have it any other way since he knew that was the unfortunate end.
The sniper is supposed to be a 12yr old girl. War is ugly. Vietnam went through so much already by the time our troops were deployed and initially, they weren't there for war but a role of keeping the peace but of course, that never works.
I always want to get it and do push ups, set ups and whatever the military could give me but unfortunately I broke my back getting the squat record at my school doing 565 Olympic weights! I ran a 4.4 40 yard dash and had all the physical attributes to be High upin military. My buddy was an airborne ranger but got a medical discharge from rupturing his scrotum on his first jump. All that said to say, just do what you love to do no matter what! Don't just give in to the world!!! Be your own person! Shalom!!!
For all the work they did to disguise the fact that this film was entirely made in England, they did miss something...when they are running in formation around the training base, you can see the road markings at junctions are still for traffic that drives on the left.
You have a good soul. Sometimes life is paused for nonsense. War is a ...
All military training is (and should be) tough. The Marines take to a new level. Though I was a squid and not a jarhead, we had a saying that "the more we sweat in peace, the less we bleed in war." Although many standards have fallen in the last few years, the marine still provide excellent training. When they are deployed, they tend to survive better than soldiers. Air Force an navy deployments are generally very different so it's not fair to compare them. I don't have what it takes to be a marine but I do remember that a Marine master gunner (a warrant officer) was the most frightening person I ever met while I was a midshipman. My best friend who was commissioned as a Marine officer says that same Master Gunner still scared the *&^(* out of him after he got commissioned.
Brother's served in Vietnam67, 68,69,.(Marines) brother in law,classmates,70's.